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| 08:40.19 | Bamir | anyone know how to connect to winxp/wifi/adhoc ? |
| 08:40.37 | Tomoe | heh |
| 08:40.45 | Tomoe | which rom? |
| 08:40.57 | Bamir | just stock |
| 08:41.04 | Tomoe | uh |
| 08:41.11 | Tomoe | does the driver support adhoc? |
| 08:41.19 | Tomoe | my card drivers dont support adhoc |
| 08:41.23 | Tomoe | cf wifi I mean |
| 08:41.39 | Bamir | I believe so....not exactly sure |
| 08:41.49 | Bamir | how would one check? |
| 08:42.07 | Tomoe | well, you would try creating an adhoc connection in the networking applet? |
| 08:42.48 | Bamir | hmmm.... |
| 08:43.39 | Bamir | bb in a few gonna play with this some more |
| 08:45.03 | Tomoe | ok |
| 08:45.09 | Tomoe | Im going out to have some food tho |
| 08:45.12 | Tomoe | see you later |
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| 16:33.27 | Tomoe | sup hy |
| 16:49.24 | xmoogle | is it a bad thing to leave a zaurus (sl-c3x00) running, not suspended, for several days? i'm mildly concerned about how warm it gets |
| 17:01.40 | rikkus | no, not at all |
| 17:01.46 | rikkus | I used to use mine as my web server |
| 17:01.55 | rikkus | left it on for about 6 months |
| 17:07.56 | xmoogle | yay |
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| 19:01.19 | Tomoe | xmoogle: do as you please |
| 19:01.23 | Tomoe | it will get warm |
| 19:01.29 | Tomoe | but not extremely hot |
| 19:06.25 | ljp | overclock it |
| 19:21.51 | raduga | xmoogle: there's one problem with letting it run hot |
| 19:22.33 | raduga | it shouldn't hurt the internal electronics, much. It might slightly increase the wear (and decrease the ultimate lifespan) of the HDD |
| 19:22.46 | raduga | but definitely, it will wear out your battery |
| 19:23.12 | raduga | running it for a few days at a time, once in awhile, won't hurt too much, |
| 19:24.02 | raduga | but if you want to run for an extended time, while the case stays permanently warm, you might consider removing the battery, and just running on AC. |
| 19:24.28 | xmoogle | hmm |
| 19:24.34 | raduga | or get a spare battery, and use *that* for when you're not plugged in. |
| 19:24.39 | xmoogle | that might be an idea |
| 19:24.45 | xmoogle | how much are spare batteries usually? |
| 19:25.03 | raduga | xmoogle: two things that decrease battery life are- heat, and charge |
| 19:25.19 | raduga | if the battery is charged more than 60% for an extended period, it will degrade too |
| 19:25.47 | raduga | xmoogle: not really cheap. you could check with where you got your Z from in the first place |
| 19:26.00 | xmoogle | raduga, a friend of a friend who was in japan |
| 19:26.46 | raduga | streamlinecpus has them for ~ 120 USD |
| 19:27.01 | xmoogle | gah |
| 19:27.03 | xmoogle | expensive |
| 19:27.20 | raduga | cheaper on eBay, but i'd be a bit careful using that source |
| 19:28.43 | raduga | ok. there's a vendor who claims to sell them for $12 USD, with $5 shipping |
| 19:28.48 | raduga | *if* you feel lucky :) |
| 19:29.35 | xmoogle | $64 from trisoft.de! |
| 19:30.01 | raduga | which model? |
| 19:30.05 | raduga | you want the BL-11 if possible |
| 19:30.28 | xmoogle | oh, oops |
| 19:30.47 | xmoogle | yeah $130 :( |
| 19:32.12 | raduga | the other batteries should still work, they're just going to have a smaller capacity. |
| 19:32.29 | raduga | (and they may rattle around inside the case) |
| 19:32.55 | xmoogle | so a BL08K would work? |
| 19:33.00 | xmoogle | on my 3200 |
| 19:33.49 | raduga | it *should* I suspect. |
| 19:34.04 | raduga | I haven't actually tried using one, but I believe the contacts are the same |
| 19:34.37 | raduga | also keep in mind, that if you buy a "new" BL08, it will still be a couple years old at least |
| 19:34.45 | xmoogle | oh, it's even more expensive.. |
| 19:34.49 | raduga | and so, a bit degraded already. |
| 19:35.44 | raduga | the one battery that won't work (different shape) is the BL-09 (for the SL-6k) |
| 19:36.07 | raduga | but a BL-06 or BL-08 might be fine, if you can find one in decent shape. |
| 19:37.27 | xmoogle | equivalent of $84 for a BL-11 from conics.net |
| 19:42.58 | xmoogle | which is quite a bit better |
| 19:45.39 | xmoogle | if the system is plugged into AC can i take the battery out without turning the machine off? |
| 19:45.58 | raduga | xmoogle: depends on the system you're running. |
| 19:46.06 | xmoogle | openbsd atm |
| 19:46.20 | xmoogle | so hardware wise yes, basically? |
| 19:46.25 | raduga | 2.4 linux kernel probably won't let you. 2.6 kernel should, |
| 19:46.38 | xmoogle | not on any linux kernel hehe |
| 19:46.42 | raduga | i suspect obsd is not going to pay much attention to the battery cover latch |
| 19:47.12 | raduga | are you able to read power level settings from the APM? |
| 19:47.30 | raduga | xmoogle: best way to find out, is plug in, and remove the battery |
| 19:47.33 | raduga | and see what happens :) |
| 19:47.48 | raduga | if the screen doesn't suddenly turn black, you're probably ok |
| 19:47.53 | xmoogle | yay it worked |
| 19:48.21 | raduga | there's some chance it might not boot without a battery, though unlikely |
| 19:48.47 | xmoogle | now i have to hope i don't knock the AC cable out accidentally! |
| 19:50.01 | raduga | btw, same situation holds for *most* portable computers |
| 19:50.06 | raduga | laptops, notebooks, etc |
| 19:50.23 | xmoogle | i imagine it would |
| 19:50.36 | raduga | they aren't really designed to run continuously, and the first place you're going to see problems show up will be in the battery |
| 19:50.36 | xmoogle | 1800mAh seems kinda..suboptimal tbh |
| 19:50.42 | raduga | because its the most sensitive |
| 19:51.36 | raduga | (you can harden electronics to be heat-resistant, but its more difficult to harden redox chemistry) |
| 19:52.05 | xmoogle | yes, i can imagine |
| 19:55.08 | raduga | er. easier to harden solid-state, where the only "moving parts" are electrons, and electron "holes", than gels that have to allow the movement of ions through membranes |
| 19:56.03 | raduga | microscopic, but the difference between "micro" and "nano" becomes relevant |
| 19:58.13 | raduga | xmoogle: not exactly a replacement, but you can find battery extenders, intended for the PSP, that will behave like an portable charger |
| 19:58.28 | raduga | (plug into the DC jack on the Zaurus) |
| 19:58.47 | raduga | they're more in the ~ 10-15 USD range |
| 19:59.25 | raduga | I suppose you could run a Zaurus off one of these, without an internal battery, though it'd be a little cumbersome |
| 20:03.40 | xmoogle | well currently it's just on AC :) |
| 20:04.27 | xmoogle | that is interesting though |
| 20:04.39 | xmoogle | does that mean the PSP runs off the same spec of charger? |
| 20:06.44 | raduga | its pretty close. nominally 5V, and either 1A or 2A (not quite sure which) |
| 20:07.01 | raduga | I've seen chargers at both 1A and 2A, and in-between |
| 20:08.16 | raduga | (also, USB-psp charge adaptors work fine... if your desktop provides enough juice, but I only use them for charging. I wouldn't really want to power the Z directly off a USB bus) |
| 20:59.36 | balrog-kun | do you use mtd-utils to erase and write the flash on the Spitz? |
| 20:59.51 | balrog-kun | and what command should i use? |
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| 22:46.13 | nullboy | hello, do any Zaurus' (5500 - 6000) support HID input via USB? I'm looking for a viable solution to attach a USB barcode scanner for simple scanning into a spread sheet |
| 22:46.19 | nullboy | for a warehouse situation |
| 23:32.36 | balrog-kun | all devices with a USB host should support HID |