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| 02:40.06 | scorn | So I'm looking for the addressbook data file in my SL-5600, I find a file called addressbook.xml, and I'm sure this is it, however when I look at the file directly, its does not contain any of the entries that my real address book does. |
| 02:41.14 | scorn | the todolist.xml and datebook.xml all seem to match, but addressbook.xml is completely wrong. How can this be? |
| 02:43.31 | bam_ | morning |
| 02:43.54 | bam_ | anyone know the commandline for wget to download all files for a specific directory? |
| 02:43.55 | scorn | evening |
| 02:46.13 | scorn | Sorry, not off the top of my head. |
| 02:50.39 | bam_ | looks like I will actually make use of man on my z finally....lol |
| 02:51.03 | scorn | normally this quiet iin here? |
| 02:51.11 | bam_ | hmmmz back to work then... |
| 02:51.16 | bam_ | yup |
| 02:51.39 | bam_ | pretty dead unless its early or late depending on what your utc is |
| 02:52.06 | scorn | on your z, is the addressbook data stored in /home/zaurus/Applications/addressbook/addressbook.xml? |
| 02:52.35 | bam_ | hmmmmz....think so, but I use ko/pi |
| 02:52.51 | scorn | y |
| 02:52.55 | scorn | k |
| 02:53.20 | scorn | grepping entire directory structure looking for file that contains addressbook, finding nothing. |
| 02:53.23 | scorn | odd |
| 02:53.25 | azgor | is there a way to "show desktop" or minimize applications when using sharpROM? |
| 02:53.35 | scorn | unless in the ROM they are storing binary. |
| 02:53.45 | scorn | seems like a bad idea. |
| 02:56.29 | scorn | Thinking of moving to OZ just because the sharp rom directory structure is so screwy. |
| 03:04.55 | scorn | thats it, stored in binary file. |
| 03:05.00 | scorn | shucks. |
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| 14:56.40 | azgor | how can I determine what version of the sharp rom I have installed? |
| 14:56.50 | hrw|work | run sysinfo? |
| 14:57.31 | azgor | indeed. thanks a bunch |
| 15:44.19 | Varoudis|Laptop | have anyone use gpsdrive? |
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| 18:20.45 | Laibsch | Why would I want to join the orkut group? Why not talk here? |
| 18:21.28 | Laibsch | Can anybody confirm that they have a working 1GB SD card in their SL-5500? I have problems with my Kingston card and Kingston support voiced the opinion that the SL-5500 only supports 256MB cards which I find hard to believe. |
| 18:21.54 | frostschutz | you go to kingston support when a card doesn't work in the zaurus? |
| 18:21.59 | frostschutz | interesting :) |
| 18:23.00 | frostschutz | I can confirm that a 2GB SD card won't work in a SL-5500 and in C1000 only with a driver update |
| 18:24.21 | frostschutz | and 256MB limit can't be true, at least 512MB work |
| 18:24.45 | Laibsch | frostschutz: Why do you find that interesting? What kind of support would you expect from Sharp? I just bought the card a few days ago and wanted to give Kingston a chance before I return the merchandise to the store. |
| 18:27.27 | Laibsch | I got a confirmation in #openzaurus that the collie works with a 1GB SD card. |
| 18:28.23 | frostschutz | I just wouldn't expect an useful answer from their support. I doubt they do testing on Zaurus, or even keeping compatibility lists for that matter. |
| 18:30.54 | Laibsch | Well, that is always the problem. You could not expect a useful answer from Sharp either, I guess. |
| 18:31.35 | frostschutz | No. You don't get support for Zaurus. That's that. :-) |
| 18:32.03 | Laibsch | Exactly ;-) |
| 18:32.52 | frostschutz | What kind of problems do you have with the card anyway? |
| 18:33.20 | Laibsch | but even apart from the Z factor I would assume that it can generally become problematic when you deal with two companies. Both should make an effort in case that becomes necessary. And Kingston did. Thumbs up for that! The support was good. Unfortunately, the card looks like it will not work. |
| 18:33.42 | Laibsch | Others reported that their Kingston card did not work in the Z either. But other cards did. |
| 18:34.00 | Laibsch | frostschutz: Reading from the card is fine. Writing to it is impossible. |
| 18:34.17 | frostschutz | it's not locked, is it? ;-) |
| 18:34.31 | frostschutz | or mounted readonly? |
| 18:34.48 | Laibsch | hehe ;-) |
| 18:35.29 | Laibsch | No, the Z does try to write and sometimes even does succeed as verified by md5sum. But sometimes the files are just 0-sized or otherwise corrupted. |
| 18:36.56 | frostschutz | md5sum verification is after remounting it? |
| 18:38.22 | Laibsch | No, why should I? |
| 18:38.41 | Laibsch | Unmounting and remounting should at least not improve things. |
| 18:38.44 | frostschutz | to make sure that all caches were flushed |
| 18:39.31 | Laibsch | Well, but whether or not the caches were flushed should not make a difference on a card that is and remains mounted. |
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| 18:40.56 | frostschutz | it could make things more clear... e.g. does the write and md5 verification actually succeed, or was it just the cache giving a correct result |
| 18:42.33 | frostschutz | also, did you try another cardreader, to rule out the possibility of a defective card? |
| 18:46.40 | Laibsch | The card reader seems to be doing things right. Loopback from the SD card was freezing all the time which is what I want it for. Only then did I investigate and found the card to be incompatible and thus "the culprit". |
| 18:47.40 | frostschutz | so it's actually just loopback that is causing problems? |
| 18:48.07 | frostschutz | anything interesting in dmesg? |
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| 19:25.30 | Laibsch | no, it is not just loopback. Most copy operation *to* the card produce garbage. |
| 19:26.25 | Laibsch | agaffney and hobbs from #openzaurus both confirmed they also had problems with Kingston cards. They both use a different 1Gig card now without problems. |
| 19:27.11 | Laibsch | I think that confirms that the Z and the Kingston do not get along for whatever reason. I leave it at that. |
| 19:27.13 | Laibsch | ... |
| 19:27.22 | Laibsch | ... |
| 19:27.34 | Laibsch | Why would I want to join the orkut group? Why not talk here? |
| 19:34.18 | frostschutz | I don't even know what orkut is, so ... the point is moot |
| 19:34.20 | frostschutz | :-) |
| 19:36.32 | Laibsch | Well, there is this stuff in the topic. Which is why I asked when I entered. Seems like that entry is not so important ;-) |
| 19:52.36 | azgor | Is there a page somewhere that documents all of the options in the japanese bios menu of my SL-C3200? I want to do a NAND backup before I install OZ, but I don't know which menu entries to select. |
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| 19:56.43 | frostschutz | azgor: does the bios menu even offer nand backup? Mine only has 1. Cancel, 2. Check, 3. Format, 4. Update |
| 19:56.56 | frostschutz | mine's a C1000 though |
| 20:00.40 | azgor | mine's in japanese, so I have no idea |
| 20:01.52 | azgor | frostschutz: it never occurred to me that it might have restore without also having backup |
| 20:02.03 | frostschutz | well mine's in japanese too :) |
| 20:02.31 | azgor | ahh. well, you see... the problem is that my japanese is a little rusty. ;) |
| 20:03.48 | frostschutz | it's some time since I flashed Cacko on my Zaurus, but IIRC the update menu had some additional options... it could partition and format data, possibly it can do backups as well? In this case you'd need the program on SD or CF and run this update thing (without actually flashing) |
| 20:05.46 | azgor | I intended to backup NAND to CF |
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| 20:21.49 | Laibsch | azgor: I only have a collie. Post a screenshot and I can decipher the Japanese for you. |
| 20:28.26 | azgor | Laibsch: thanks. |
| 20:45.20 | azgor | Laibsch: http://www.tinyurl.com/pko9t Sorry but it is a little blurry |
| 20:46.30 | frostschutz | azgor: 1. Cancel 2. Data Check 3. ??? (Format) 4. Update |
| 20:46.32 | Laibsch | The menu title is "Maintenance menu" |
| 20:46.53 | Laibsch | 3 delete everything |
| 20:47.01 | Laibsch | AKA format |
| 20:47.16 | Laibsch | The rest from frostschutz is correct. |
| 20:47.27 | azgor | so basically, it's 1.reboot 2.fsck 3.reset+format 4.update-nand |
| 20:47.30 | frostschutz | I have to study kanji more :) |
| 20:47.33 | Laibsch | frostschutz: You speak Japanese? |
| 20:47.43 | frostschutz | Laibsch: far from it, I'm learning though |
| 20:47.54 | Laibsch | I'd like to invite you to http://gakusei.sf.net |
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| 20:49.00 | frostschutz | Laibsch: a wadoku offline version of 2005 was published recently (before that only a version of 2003 was available) |
| 20:50.45 | Laibsch | Interesting. Do you know where? What format? epwing? |
| 20:51.09 | frostschutz | azgor: well, that's the guess I had before, that you can do this backup stuff from inside the update program itself only |
| 20:51.26 | azgor | D+B+power doesn't seem to work on my zaurus. the OZ install instructions say to press that to get a terminal so that I can resize partitions. is there any reason I shouldn't just fdisk from inside a terminal emulator? |
| 20:51.43 | azgor | frostschutz: you were right indeed |
| 20:51.56 | frostschutz | Laibsch: it was on wadoku.de in the forums ... I asked for it actually... http://www.wadoku.de/download/wadoku_epwing_2005.zip |
| 20:52.27 | frostschutz | D+B? |
| 20:53.11 | azgor | The OZ install instructions for the 3200 say hold D and B while you press power and it will boot into a console |
| 20:53.15 | Laibsch | frostschutz: Nice. Hang around gakusei.sf.net and make suggestions. I want to make this a lively community of Japanese learners. |
| 20:53.32 | frostschutz | azgor: I never installed OZ, sorry... I'm using Cacko, there you just run the update from the maintenance menu and get another menu that allows you to partition, format, install cacko rom, etc |
| 20:54.49 | azgor | frostschutz: how do you like Cacko? |
| 20:55.38 | frostschutz | azgor: I dunno. Never tried anything else so I can't really compare. I just recently got my Zaurus too, so I don't know much about it either way |
| 20:55.46 | frostschutz | azgor: it supports Japanese :-) |
| 20:55.57 | azgor | ah |
| 20:57.37 | azgor | frostschutz: I was going to try cacko until I saw that it required repartitioning. I decided that if I was going to have to repartition anyway, I might as well try OZ since it has 2.6 |
| 20:57.58 | azgor | and more packages over all, I think |
| 20:58.45 | frostschutz | I didn't try OZ yet because I heard there were some issues with drivers for the SD cardreader and stuff... dunno if this still applies today |
| 20:59.06 | azgor | maybe I should try cacko first, though. I get the impression it is a little less painful than OZ |
| 20:59.36 | azgor | I think the SD cardreader issues only affect 5X00's and 6000 |
| 21:00.00 | azgor | lack of 2.6 driver, I think |
| 21:02.45 | frostschutz | azgor: I had no problems installing it... and pretty much everything just works. Of course, I guess others work just as well... I don't really know :-) |
| 21:07.37 | azgor | frostschutz: I think the advantage of OZ is that it is easier to create new packages for it. But Cacko seems to have most of what I want already... *ponders* |
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| 21:54.16 | WillyWortel | Is there a (free) alternative for IQNotes ? ( see http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=168 ) |
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| 21:56.20 | Laibsch | WillyWortel: Do you mean GPL or just 0-cost? I thought that IQNotes was GPL? |
| 21:56.54 | Laibsch | WillyWortel: You might have to compile it for yourself (or use OpenZaurus) |
| 21:59.06 | WillyWortel | Laibsch, I mean 0-cost ;-). I like that tool, because it uses a tree-like hierarcy. |
| 21:59.32 | Laibsch | GPL is zero cost. And AFAIK IQNotes is GPL. |
| 22:00.47 | WillyWortel | Price = US$ 19.99, and License =Commercial |
| 22:01.31 | WillyWortel | I'm just not satisfied about the 'build-in' notes-appl. in my Zaurus SL-5600 |
| 22:02.37 | WillyWortel | Wanna have one, where a can quickle type /edit notes, and if possible with a small sketch / scheme. |
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| 23:03.42 | azgor | quick cacko question: there is a version of opera in the feed that says it is just for the C3000. I assume it is also intended for the C3100 and C3200? Anyone know if it is? |
| 23:15.15 | Laibsch | WillyWortel: The program is GPL as I said. http://www.google.de/search?q=iqnotes+gpl&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial First entry. |
| 23:15.55 | Laibsch | Just as an example. GPL does not mean cost-free under all circumstances. As I said, you might have to compile it yourself. |
| 23:16.12 | Laibsch | If you have the skill, you can get it for free. |
| 23:16.26 | Laibsch | If you don't 20$ is not too expensive IMHO. |
| 23:16.57 | Laibsch | And that is about as much FREE support as you will get from me on that subject. |
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| 23:31.22 | WillyWortel | Laibsch, thanks.. i will check it out. |
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