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00:04.03racemeonce i've get my new sd card i think i will reinstall with 64-0 scheme and software on the sd
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02:52.37LordDavon|C700Hello everyone.
02:53.09Fatbumhowdy
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02:53.50LordDavon|C700Quiet in here tonight?
02:54.08krezelApparently
02:54.09treke|homebeen quiet all day
02:54.22LordDavon|C700Ack!
02:54.32LordDavon|C700Chris been around much?
02:54.36treke|homeyup
02:54.38Fatbumany1 use tinyx?
02:55.10LordDavon|C700I dont
02:55.30krezelAnybody here use Debian and Nautilus 2.2.0.2?
02:55.39Fatbumkrezel used to
02:55.46Fatbumi mean, i used to that is
02:55.53LordDavon|C700krezel:  Any good?
02:56.06krezelYeah its great, but I cant get my scripts to show up
02:56.57krezeland #debian just tells me to submit it as a bug
02:57.09treke|homewell maybe you should
02:57.09krezeland #gnome laughs and tells me to make sure theyre executable...
02:57.24LordDavon|C700I dont know them.
02:57.53LordDavon|C700Install Ximian.  :)
02:58.11krezel#debian can be mean
02:59.39treke|homenot as mean as we can
03:00.11LordDavon|C700lol
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03:02.48Fatbumany1 use tinyx?
03:03.36prpplagueFatbum: tintx ya
03:03.50prpplagueFatbum: whatcha lookin for?
03:04.04prpplagueFatbum: must be in the uk
03:04.27Fatbumme no sir
03:04.32Fatbumjust trying to load up flux box
03:04.37Fatbumwheres the .xsession file?
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03:05.08weezhey]
03:06.06weezso has anybody overcome the problem where you can setup the usb0 interfaces on both the linux box and the zaurus, but then neither can ping the other?
03:07.25Fatbumnot me weez, but you used tinyx?
03:08.26weezFatbum: i havent tried any of that stuff yet, since I was gonna get the USB going next
03:08.38weezFatbum: so I can DL stuff easier
03:08.41Fatbumi dig
03:09.03krezelHmm if i put an executable in the scripts dir it shows, but not a script...
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03:09.22weezI have a CF ethernet card, but I want to be able to use my CF slot for swap when I install all that stuff
03:10.31krezelaw shit
03:10.49krezeli think all my scripts are links to the scripts on the internet... am I a jackass or what?
03:11.17Fatbumcould be what....
03:11.22Fatbumtheres prolly some doubts
03:11.28kergoth`bblyo LordDavon|C700
03:11.32kergoth`bblLordDavon|C700: got my email?
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03:20.08Fatbumis there a boot menu is ox3.1rc2?
03:20.13kergoth`bblno
03:20.14Fatbumlike to not start qpe?
03:20.17kergoth`bblyou can install one
03:20.23kergoth`bblbut it hasnt been touched in ages
03:20.23Fatbumdoes that bootmenu-dialog work
03:20.25Fatbum?
03:20.26kergoth`bblyes
03:20.27Fatbumoh
03:20.34kergoth`bblbut again, it hasnt been touched in some time
03:20.36kergoth`bbli make no guarantees
03:20.40Fatbumk
03:20.43kergoth`bblthe proper boot menu isnt due for inclusion until 3.1 final
03:20.55Fatbumi thought there was a new boot logo
03:21.13kergoth`bbl?
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03:21.24kergoth`bblI dont know where you'd get that idea
03:21.34Fatbumit was in the news on openzaurus.org
03:21.58kergoth`bblno, it wasnt.
03:22.02kergoth`bblread again, comprehend this time.
03:22.08kergoth`bblthe new logo is the logo in 2.4.19, not 2.4.6
03:22.24Fatbumok kergoth`bbl
03:22.29Hellaenergyibot: lart Fatbum
03:22.58Fatbumgot it
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03:27.56Fatbumany1 use picogui?
03:32.13Fatbumgod damnit
03:39.53TDTthe maximum viewing area for the zaurus is?  I'm trying to resize a bg image to work on the Z
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03:42.30ljp240x320
03:43.13TDTljp: I used that for thedimentions of my image, and the image is too big.  
03:44.10TDTljp: it's the height that's being the pain in the butt
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04:15.40ljptaskbar is 240x30 I think
04:18.59treke|homeljp: taskbar height varies with the size of your icon for the start button
04:19.07kc8ioyhi
04:19.22TDTyeah, I got the final resize of about 240x280
04:19.34TDTwhich is just about perfect..not quit, but oh well
04:22.11cordoes anybody know how to repair a Z that doesn't boot? i have a green "mail" light...that's about it
04:22.20kergoth`bblcor: flash it
04:22.23corthe last thing i tried to do was soft reboot
04:22.31kergoth`bblor try a full reset first
04:22.40corkergoth`bbl: c'mon that's the only way?
04:22.45corwill i lose all my data?
04:23.00kergoth`bblyes. full reset loses your data.
04:23.07kergoth`bblif soft reset doesnt work, then full reset is the only option
04:23.10kergoth`bblthis is in your manual, read it
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04:24.29corkergoth`bbl: well not really, i did read it
04:25.40kergoth`bbland it doesnt mention full reset and soft reset? i'm pretty sure it does
04:25.52kergoth`bblcould always hit up the zaurus faq, it covers a lot of the basics as well
04:26.30cordid that too
04:26.35cor(scanned anyways)
04:26.43corpanic sets in fast :(
04:27.08corespecially since the machine i use to sync with (my wife's windows machine) is totally unbootable itself
04:27.26TDTkergoth`bbl: One thing I like about storing stuff on the SD stick is that I don't lose everything :P
04:27.39kergoth`bblTDT: yeah, thats nice
04:27.46kergoth`bblTDT: also, in OZ you wouldnt lose it anyway
04:27.55TDTkergoth`bbl: althoughwhen I full reset, my tab settings get lost...which I don't know why.
04:27.57kergoth`bblTDT: app data defaults to storing in flash, which is persistant unless you flash
04:27.57weezkergoth`bbl: where is ipkg-link?  ibot doesnt know and it appears to be too young for google.  I couldnt find it on openzaurus.org either
04:28.12kergoth`bblweez: its in the OZ buildroot in the oz-base tarball
04:28.17kergoth`bblibot: oz snapshot
04:28.21somebody said oz snapshot was http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/snapshot/ or updated every 4 hours by Navi or this is a snapshot of the bk oz buildroot tree use it to compile your own OZ if you don't want to use BK
04:28.21kergoth`bblibot: oz bk
04:28.22oz bk is, like, bk clone http://openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot buildroot-oz; cd buildroot-oz; bk -r co -q; cp def-configs/openzaurus .config; make oldconfig; make or see bitkeeper (free download but non-gpl) or see 'oz snapshot' if you don't want to use bk
04:28.23kergoth`bbleither grab a snapshot or pull it from bk
04:28.36weezkergoth`bbl: cool, thanx
04:28.41kergoth`bblnp
04:28.47TDTwell, going to bed and going to work on some stuff.  g'night all
04:28.54kergoth`bblnight
04:29.46corsoft boot is from within qtopia right?
04:30.00kergoth`bblno, soft reset is flipping the switch on the back to replace and back to normal
04:30.10kergoth`bblas documented in your manual which you apparently didnt read
04:30.25kergoth`bblas also documented in bill kendrick's Z faq which you also apparently didnt read
04:30.36ljphard shutdown is when you throw it out a 5th story window
04:30.37cori've done that already, 10 Xs
04:30.43corheh
04:30.49cornot quite there yet
04:30.55kergoth`bblthen do it again, comprehend it this time
04:31.19Pendalarstill ill?
04:31.31kergoth`bblill?
04:31.38Pendalarmean ;-)
04:31.46kergoth`bblmean? i'm always mean
04:32.16Pendalaryou are generally professionally stern, right now yer just mean
04:32.19Pendalarlol
04:32.22kergothhaha
04:32.23corthe manual doesn't have anything close to what you are talking about
04:32.31kergothcor: it talks about soft reset.
04:32.38corthe manual just documents howto use the qtopia apps
04:32.45kergothoi
04:32.47kergothgo read the faq then
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04:33.12kergothyo Fatbum
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04:33.33kergothPendalar: you think this is mean, I was worse in #openembedded earlier. ;)
04:33.56kergothI offered to bet anyone in the room $20 some guy's issue was user error
04:34.04kergoththen when i proved it, i tried to collect
04:34.04kergoth:D
04:34.26Pendalarif so, go ahead and ban me from the channel.. save me the scorn
04:34.29Pendalar;-)
04:34.35kergothhah
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04:37.56corfyi, next time you tell somebody to rtfm, it's in the "start-up guide"
04:38.13kergothhahaha
04:38.30kergothrtfm implies the product documentation
04:38.37kergothnot the single documented entitled 'manual'
04:38.38kergothibot: tfm
04:38.39it has been said that tfm is The Fine Product Documentation
04:39.02corof which there is two, one titled "manual" the other _not_
04:39.23kergothright, and your inability to peruse your documentation is somehow my problem?
04:39.30kergothquit wasting my time.
04:40.26PendalarI've narrowed it down to you need a vacation, working too much, or lack of about 1 to 3 things
04:40.35kergothlol
04:40.38kergothor all 3!
04:40.50Pendalargay ass? for shame!
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04:40.53Pendalarnah joking..
04:41.00kergothhehe
04:41.03kergothNeotron: hey neo
04:41.10Neotronhello
04:41.16kergothhow goes it?
04:41.23Neotronjust fine
04:42.10Pendalarlusers in the IRC sense is quite different than losers..
04:42.20kergothulyx: fortune SP
04:42.21ulyxEric! Did you just say the *F* word?    Jew?    No, he's talking about fuck. You can't say fuck in school you fucking  fatass.    Kyle!    Why the fuck not?    Eric!    Dude! You just said fuck again!    Stanley!    Fuck!    Kenny!    What's the big deal? It doesn't hurt anybody! Fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck.
04:42.36treke|homeOne of my favorite lines :)
04:42.39kergothhehe
04:43.58treke|homeulyx: fortune SP
04:43.58ulyxAw, screw it. It probably isn't all that good anyway.    Cartman, what are you talking about? You love Terrance and Philip!    Yeah, but the animation is crappy.
04:44.12kergothulyx: fortune SP
04:44.12ulyxChef, how do you make a woman like you more than any other guy?    Oh, that's easy. You've just gotta find the clitoris.     Huh?    Ooops.
04:44.33chouimatulyx forutne homer
04:44.40chouimatulyx fortune homer
04:44.41ulyxBart:You know, Grampa kinda smells like that trunk in the garage  where the bottom's all wet.    Lisa:Nuh-uh, he smells more like a photo lab.    Homer:Stop it, both of you!  Grampa smells like a regular old man,  which is more like a hallway in a hospital.       Old Money
04:45.16chouimatulyx fortune SP
04:45.17ulyxYes, yes, I saw the Terrance and Philip movie. Who wants to touch me? I said  who wants to fucking touch me?
04:45.27chouimatulyx fortune SP
04:45.27ulyxWe have to see this movie, dude!
04:45.59chouimatulyx fortune SP
04:46.00ulyxThank God we live in the quiet little redneck podunk white trash quiet  mountain town.
04:46.32Pendalaralabama?
04:46.51kergothalabama? dood, you need to go watch some south park
04:47.04kergothulyx: fortune SP
04:47.04ulyxWhat would Brian Botano do?
04:47.07kergothulyx: fortune SP
04:47.07ulyxHey, don't call me fat you fucking Jew!
04:47.32treke|homeulyx: fortune SP
04:47.33ulyxLook Mr... Homeless Guy. If you don't want to buy us, and not get you ten  bucks and buy yourself a bottle of vodka, be my guest.
04:47.42Pendalarwas a joke..
04:47.53treke|homeulyx: fortune SP
04:47.54ulyxU.S.A.!
04:48.00kergothulyx: fortune SP
04:48.00ulyxGuys, do you know where I can find the clitoris?    The what?    What, is that like finding Jesus or something?
04:48.18treke|homekergoth: what little mountain town are they in anyways?
04:48.56kergothulyx: fortune SP
04:48.56ulyxU.S.A.!
04:49.05kergothsomewhere in colorado, thats all i remember
04:49.06kergothhehe
04:49.06kergothsomewhere in colorado, thats all i remember
04:49.08kergother
04:49.09kergothulyx: fortune SP
04:49.10ulyxI bet him he couldn't do it. I bet him a hundred dollars...    C'mon Cartman, it's not your fault.    Oh, I know, I'm just fucking stoked I don't have to pay him.    That's real nice. He was your friend, you fat fuck!
04:49.21treke|home<PROTECTED>
04:49.22ulyxFuck off you donkey raping shiteater!
04:49.53TDTman this is cool lol
04:50.01kergothulyx: fortune SP
04:50.01ulyxHey Satan, didja hear the news? A war just broke out up on earth.    Meet Saddam Hussein, my new partner in evil.
04:50.01treke|home<PROTECTED>
04:50.02ulyxMove over Satan, you're just hogging all the fun. Yeah! Yeah, man this is  getting me so hot!
04:50.03TDTsshed int my server
04:50.19kergothulyx: fortune chalkboard
04:50.20ulyxI WAS NOT TOLD TO DO THIS  I WAS NOT TOLD TO DO THIS  I WAS NOT TOLD TO DO THIS  I WAS NOT TOLD TO DO THIS    Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 5F13
04:50.40kergothulyx: fortune chalkboard
04:50.40ulyxSILLY STRING IS NOT A NASAL SPRAY  SILLY STRING IS NOT A NASAL SPRAY  SILLY STRING IS NOT A NASAL SPRAY  SILLY STRING IS NOT A NASAL SPRAY    Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 5F12
04:50.45kergothlol
04:52.03TDTwhat is the escape sequence in oz? so I can use vi
04:52.28kergothcancel = esc
04:52.32ljpI always reboot if I find myself in vi
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04:53.08TDTljp: vi rocks
04:53.16treke|home<PROTECTED>
04:53.16ulyxNo dude, I'd be scared too, you're mom is a fucking bitch.    Don't call my mom a bitch, you fat fuck!    Don't call me fat you buttfucking son of a bitch.
04:53.47TDTljp: its the main editor I use for anything.
04:53.54kergothTDT: ljp is a smartass
04:54.01kergothulyx: fortune SP
04:54.02ulyxStan, tell them about when Terrance called Philip a testicle shitting rectal  wart.
04:54.09ljpno, I was speaking the truth
04:54.16kergothulyx: fortune SP
04:54.17ulyxKyle's mom is a big fat fucking bitch!
04:54.19kergothulyx: fortune SP
04:54.20ulyxHmmmmm, let's see. Well, first of all, you fuck pigs.    Oh yeah!
04:54.34kergothhm, i need to grab the kyle's mom is a bitch mp3
04:55.13chouimatulyx fortune SP
04:55.14ulyxFuck dude, I want to be just like Terrance and Philip!
04:55.26chouimatulyx fortune SP
04:55.27ulyxFucking sweet!
04:55.28TDTcrap...man what i would give for a full keyboard on the Z
04:55.33chouimatulyx fortune homer
04:55.34ulyxThere are perfectly good answers to those questions, but they'll have  to wait for another night.    -- Homer Simpson     Homers Barbershop Quartet
04:56.01mewynhow do you see what fortune lists ulyx has?
04:56.17chouimatmewyn: be login on the console :)
04:56.36kergothhehe
04:56.44kergothchouimat: you should fix the fortune list function :)
04:56.46kergothulyx: fortune dune
04:56.47ulyx"Control the coinage and the courts -- let the rabble have the rest." Thus the   Padishah Emperor advises you. And he tells you: "If you want profits, you must   rule." There is truth in these words, but I ask myself: "Who are the rabble and   who are the ruled?"      -- Muad'Dib's Secret Message to the Landsraad from "Arrakis Awakening" by the   Princess Irulan
04:57.03mewynulyx fortune homer
04:57.04ulyxHomer:I keep hearing this horrible irregular thumping noise.    Pump Jockey:  It's your heart.  And I think it's on its last thump.    Homer:Whew, I was afraid it was my transmission.       Homer's Triple Bypass
04:58.20mewynyou got any ralphisms on ulyx
04:58.24kergothulyx: fortune SP
04:58.25ulyxShould we blame the government?    Or blame society?    Or should we blame the images on TV?    NO! Blame Canada!
04:58.54TDTany good "must-have" apps for the Z? such as more customization for the gui?
04:59.08kergothulyx: fortune SP
04:59.09ulyxShut your fucking face, uncle fucka! You're a cock sucking, ass-licking  uncle fucka!  You're an uncle fucka, yes it's true, nobody fucks uncles quite like you!
04:59.35mewynlol
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05:00.56PendalarI dislike all backup/restore zaurus paks thus far, but will take rsync or unison
05:01.25corPendalar: it just restored all my data (after a hard reboot)
05:01.31cori'm pretty happy :)
05:01.38kergothulyx: fortune SP
05:01.39ulyxKyle's mom is a big fat fucking bitch!
05:01.40kergothulyx: fortune SP
05:01.41ulyxOh my god, you killed Kenny    You bastard.
05:01.43kergothulyx: fortune SP
05:01.43ulyxYou really need all that chocolate, fat boy?
05:01.52chouimatulyx: fortune SP
05:01.53ulyxYou really need all that chocolate, fat boy?
05:01.55chouimatulyx: fortune SP
05:01.55ulyxIt seems that everything's gone wrong since Canada came along!
05:01.57Pendalarall, or just configs and some data
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05:02.00chouimatulyx: fortune SP
05:02.01ulyxIt seems that everything's gone wrong since Canada came along!
05:02.04chouimatulyx: fortune SP
05:02.04ulyxAw, ma! He's not even my real brother, he's adopted.
05:02.11chouimatulyx: fortune bofh-excuses
05:02.12ulyxBOFH Excuse #330:    quantum decoherence
05:02.13kergothkick the baby!
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05:02.16kergothulyx: fortune
05:02.16ulyxSave Soviet Jewry -- Win Valuable Prizes!!!!
05:02.20Pendalarie did /etc/foobar/beefnuts get backed up?
05:02.30kergothPendalar: backing up /etc is stupid and bad
05:02.31chouimatulyx: fortune heretic-dune
05:02.32ulyx/usr/share/games/fortune/heretic-dune-o: No such file or directory
05:02.37Pendalargenerally it's just documents and such
05:02.47kergothPendalar: if you restore it onto a system using different versions of the installed packages, you could easily make your Z useless.
05:02.50chouimatulyx: fortune hh
05:02.50ulyx/usr/share/games/fortune/hh-o: No such file or directory
05:03.01chouimatulyx: fortune hitchhiker
05:03.01ulyx"You're very sure of your facts, " he said at last, "I   couldn't trust the thinking of a man who takes the Universe   - if there is one - for granted. "
05:03.03Pendalarkergoth: outside my point ^_^ - which is I prefer whole system backups, or at least dir rips of partial
05:03.13kergothPendalar: thats what tar's fore :)
05:03.14kergothfor
05:03.17chouimatulyx: fortune hitchhiker
05:03.17Pendalarnot 'save documents?' 'save contacts?'
05:03.17ulyx"OK, so ten out of ten for style, but minus several million   for good thinking, yeah? "
05:03.25kergothhitchiker quotes! nice
05:03.31chouimatulyx: fortune hitchhiker
05:03.31ulyx"The last time anybody made a list of the top hundred   character attributes of New Yorkers, common sense snuck in   at number 79. ....  When it's fall in New York, the air smells as if someone's   been frying goats in it, and if you are keen to breathe the   best plan is to open a window and stick your head in a   building."     - Nuff said??
05:03.45mewynchouimat: what's the list, slower this time :)
05:03.57chouimatmewyn: email :)
05:04.03treke|homeulyx: fortune hitchhiker
05:04.04ulyx"`A curse,' said Slartibartfast, `which will engulf the   Galaxy in fire and destruction, and possibly bring the   Universe to a premature doom. I mean it,' he added.  `Sounds like a bad time,' said Ford, `with luck I'll be   drunk enough not to notice.'"    - Ford ensuring everyone knew where his priorities lay.
05:04.11mewynibot mewyn is tux_mike
05:04.12mewyn: i already had it that way
05:04.12kergothhehe
05:04.20mewynibot tux_mike
05:04.21[tux_mike] Mike Crawford <mailto:mike@tuxnami.org>
05:04.23PendalarI like unison, was basically what I was coding before and stopped since it fulfills the need.. other than it's not very daemonizable
05:04.28Pendalarneed to write a wrapper
05:04.35kergothyeha, unison is nice
05:05.26treke|homevery
05:05.29chouimathere the fortune list: SP, art, ascii-art, bofh-excuses,calvin, chalkboard,chapterhouse-dune,children-of-dune,computer,cookie,definitions,drugs
05:05.41TDTis there a shift key?
05:05.56TDTlike shift + 1?
05:06.06kergothulyx: fortune computer
05:06.07ulyx/usr/share/games/fortune/computer-o: No such file or directory
05:06.11kergothulyx: fortune drugs
05:06.12ulyxEvery morning is a Smirnoff morning.
05:06.15kergothhah
05:06.15mewynulyx fotune bofh-excuses
05:06.22kergothulyx: fortune drugs
05:06.22ulyxOnly Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups --  alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and fat.  -- Alex Levine
05:06.58treke|homehehe
05:07.02chouimatdune, dune-messiah, education, ethnic, food, fortunes, fortunes2, freebsd-tips, futurama,god-emperor, goedel, heretics-of-dune, hitchhicker,homer,house-atreides,house-harkonnen
05:07.05Pendalarchildren-of-dune is hardly worth doing =-P
05:07.10kergothulyx: fortune drugs
05:07.10ulyxA guy walks into a bar, orders a beer, carries it to the bathroom and dumps it  into a urinal.  Over the course of the next few hours, he goes back to the bar  and repeats this sequence -- several times.  Finally the bartender got so  curious that he leaned over the bar and asked him what he was doing.    Replied the customer, "Avoiding the middleman."
05:07.24mewynulyx fortune bofh-excuses
05:07.24ulyxBOFH Excuse #322:    Your Pentium has a heating problem - try cooling it with ice cold water.(Do not turn of your computer, you do not want to cool down the Pentium Chip while he isn't working, do you?)
05:07.35mewynulyx fortune bofh-excuses
05:07.36ulyxBOFH Excuse #63:    not properly grounded, please bury computer
05:07.55kergothulyx: fortune drugs
05:07.56ulyxIt has been said that Public Relations is the art of winning friends  and getting people under the influence.  -- Jeremy Tunstall
05:08.25chouimathumoritics, kids,law,limerick,linuxcookie literature, love, magic, medicine,men-women,miscellaneous,murphy,news, oneliners, people,pets,platitudes,politics,riddles,science
05:08.40sjborchchouimat: what are you doing up so late? :)
05:09.06chouimatsmac,songs-poems,sports,startrek,starwars,translate-me,wisdom,work,zippy
05:09.07kergothulyx: fortune magic
05:09.07ulyxDo what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.  -- Aleister Crowley
05:09.12kergothulyx: fortune magic
05:09.12ulyx"A wizard cannot do everything; a fact most magicians are reticent to admit,  let alone discuss with prospective clients.  Still, the fact remains that   there are certain objects, and people, that are, for one reason or another,   completely immune to any direct magical spell.  It is for this group of  beings that the magician learns the subtleties of using indirect spells.  It also does no harm, in dealing with these
05:09.12ulyxmatters, to carry a large club  near your person at all times."  -- The Teachings of Ebenezum, Volume VIII
05:09.15chouimatulyx: lart sjborch
05:09.49kergothulyx: fortune drugs
05:09.49ulyx[Norm tries to prove that he is not Anton Kreitzer.]  Norm:  Afternoon, everybody!  All:   Anton!  -- Cheers, The Two Faces of Norm    Woody: What's going on, Mr. Peterson?  Norm:  A flashing sign in my gut that says, ``Insert beer here.''  -- Cheers, Call Me, Irresponsible    Sam:  What can I get you, Norm?  Norm: [scratching his beard] Got any flea powder?  Ah, just kidding.        Gimme a beer; I think I'll just
05:09.50ulyxdrown the little suckers.  -- Cheers, Two Girls for Every Boyd
05:10.47sjborchchouimat: ah, pepper...
05:10.56kergothulyx: fortune wisdom
05:10.57ulyxNasrudin called at a large house to collect for charity.  The servant said  "My master is out."  Nasrudin replied, "Tell your master that next time he  goes out, he should not leave his face at the window.  Someone might steal it."
05:11.08chouimatulyx fortune children-of-dune
05:11.09ulyxI give you the desert chameleon, whose ability to blend itself into the   background tells you all you need to know about the roots of ecology  and the foundations of a personal identity.      -- Book of Diatribes from the Hayt Chronicle
05:11.26kergothulyx: fortune men-women
05:11.26ulyxLife begins at the centerfold and expands outward.  -- Miss November, 1966
05:11.31kergothulyx: fortune men-women
05:11.31ulyxMarriage is not merely sharing the fettucine, but sharing the  burden of finding the fettucine restaurant in the first place.  -- Calvin Trillin
05:11.55chouimatand getting the bill
05:11.59kergothman, quotes can keep me occupied for hours
05:12.02kergothhehe
05:12.24chouimatulyx fortune
05:12.25ulyxWomen Unite!  Make *___him* sleep in the wet spot tonight!
05:12.41kergothulyx: fortune men-women
05:12.41ulyxI never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the  places they do today.  -- Will Rogers
05:12.53chouimatlol
05:12.56mewynulyx lart ulyx
05:12.59chouimatulyx fortune
05:13.00ulyxEisenhower was very nice,  Nixon was his only vice.  -- C. Degen
05:13.08chouimatulyx fortune homer
05:13.09ulyxHe gets it from your side of the family, you know.  No monsters on my  side.    -- Homer Simpson     Treehouse of Horror II
05:13.15chouimatulyx fortune homer
05:13.16ulyxIt's a fixer-upper.  What's the problem?  We get a bunch of priests in   here ...    -- Homer Simpson     Treehouse of Horror
05:13.22treke|homeyou know its a bad sign when you are starting to see repeats in fortunes output
05:13.27kergothno kidding
05:13.33treke|homeulyx fortune
05:13.34ulyxNuke the gay, unborn, baby whales for Jesus.
05:13.38kergothulyx: fortune men-women
05:13.38ulyxI love being married.  It's so great to find that one special person  you want to annoy for the rest of your life.  -- Rita Rudner
05:13.47chouimatulyx fortune homer
05:13.47ulyxKent:Well, what do you say to the accusation that your group has been  causing more crimes than it's been preventing?    Homer:Oh, Kent, I'd be lying if I said my men weren't committing crimes.       Homer the Vigilante
05:14.01chouimatulyx fortune SP
05:14.01treke|homeulyx fortune
05:14.01ulyxWhat? Fuck you guys, I wanna get out of here.
05:14.01ulyxSure eating yogurt will improve your sex life.  People know that if  you'll eat that stuff, you'll eat anything.
05:14.15chouimathehe
05:14.20kergothhehe
05:14.25kergothulyx: fortune SP
05:14.26ulyxOh my god, you killed Kenny    You bastard.
05:14.28kergothulyx: fortune SP
05:14.28ulyxI want this V-Chip out of me! It has stunted my vocabulary.
05:14.32chouimatulyx fortune
05:14.33ulyxTHE MX IS GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY.  One important reason we have a Defense  Department is that when we give it money, it spends it, which creates  jobs, whereas if we left the money in the hands of civilians, we don't  know what they'd do with it.  Probably put it in open trenches and set  it on fire.  The MX will create an especially large number of jobs  because of the number of warheads it carries.  It carries a total
05:14.33ulyxof 10  warheads.  This creates a great deal of employment, because you have  your Warhead Makers, your Warhead Lifters, your Persons Who Tap the  Warheads Gently with Rubber Mallets to Wedge Them All Snugly Into the  Nose Cone, your Persons Who Just Walk Around Playing Soothing Cassettes  by Recording Artists such as Perry Como So We Don't Have Any More  Episodes Where a Worker Who is Experiencing Some Strain Sticks a
05:14.34ulyxWarhead in the Employee Cafeteria Microwave and Sets It On Roast, etc.  We are talking about a lot of jobs.  -- Dave Barry, "At Last, the Ultimate Deterrent Against     Political Fallout"
05:14.45chouimatulyx fortune
05:14.46treke|homeulyx: fortune SP
05:14.46ulyxDammit, how many times do I have to tell you?  _____FIRST you rape, ____THEN you  pillage!!
05:14.46ulyxOh my god, they killed Kenny!    You bastards!
05:14.53kergothlol
05:14.54treke|homehshs
05:15.01kergothulyx: fortune drugs
05:15.01ulyxHarry's bar has a new cocktail.  It's called MRS punch.  They make it with  milk, rum and sugar and it's wonderful.  The milk is for vitality and the   sugar is for pep.  They put in the rum so that people will know what to do  with all that pep and vitality.
05:15.20chouimat:)
05:15.40chouimatulyx fortune
05:15.41ulyxO'Riordan's Theorem:  Brains x Beauty = Constant.    Purmal's Corollary:  As the limit of (Brains x Beauty) goes to infinity,  availability goes to zero.
05:16.00chouimatlol
05:16.36kergothulyx: fortune drugs
05:16.36ulyxWhile riding in a train between London and Birmingham, a woman  inquired of Oscar Wilde, "You don't mind if I smoke, do you?"  Wilde gave her a sidelong glance and replied, "I don't mind if  you burn, madam."
05:16.45kergothhah
05:16.52chouimatulyx fortune
05:16.52ulyxWould you mind terribly much if I asked you to take your silly-assed  problem down the hall?
05:17.01kergothoh shit, i gotta use that line
05:17.03kergothhehe
05:17.12chouimatkergoth: for soopa*?
05:17.20kergothwhomever :)
05:17.33kergothulyx: fortune
05:17.34ulyxHe who sneezes without a handkerchief takes matters into his own  hands.
05:17.38kergothulyx: fortune
05:17.38ulyxSex is the poor man's opera.  -- G. B. Shaw
05:18.31kergothulyx: fortune
05:18.31ulyxGod gives us relatives; thank goodness we can chose our friends.
05:18.37chouimatulyx fortune
05:18.38ulyxSex is like a bridge game -- If you have a good hand no partner is  needed.
05:18.49chouimathehe
05:19.09chouimatulyx fortune
05:19.10ulyx"In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with  reality at any point."  -- Friedrich Nietzsche
05:19.21kergothhah
05:19.36chouimat<ulyx> Claude believed that only smart attractive people had the right to  fuck, and it sincerely hurt him when he discovered evidence to the  contrary.    -- Tom Robbins
05:19.57chouimatulyx fortune
05:19.58ulyxGeorge Washington not only chopped down his father's cherry tree, but  he also admitted doing it.  Now, do you know why his father didn't  punish him?  Because George still had the axe in his hand.
05:20.12chouimatlol
05:20.30kergothulyx: fortune
05:20.31ulyxConserve energy -- make love more slowly.
05:20.34kergothulyx: fortune
05:20.34ulyxCocaine is nature's way of telling you you have too much money.
05:20.38chouimatulyx fortune
05:20.39ulyxRepublicans raise dahlias, Dalmatians and eyebrows.  Democrats raise Airedales, kids and taxes.    Democrats eat the fish they catch.  Republicans hang them on the wall.    Republican boys date Democratic girls.  They plan to marry Republican  girls, but feel they're entitled to a little fun first.    Democrats make up plans and then do something else.  Republicans follow the plans their grandfathers made.  
05:20.39ulyxRepublicans consume three-fourths of the rutabaga produced in the USA.  The remainder is thrown out.    Republicans sleep in twin beds -- some even in separate rooms.  That is why there are more Democrats.  -- The Official Rules, as compiled by Paul Dickson
05:20.39kergothhah
05:20.42chouimatulyx fortune
05:20.42ulyxQ:  Where can you buy black lace crotchless panties for sheep?  A:  Fredrick's of Ithaca, New York.
05:20.57chouimatulyx fortune
05:20.58ulyx'Twas orgy, and the hip and modAnd as in raffish thought he sprawled,  Did groove and trip out at the pad:The Radcliffe girl, no idle flirt,  All whimsy were the slamming chicks,Crept past the hippies getting balled  And the Radcliffe undergrad.And doffed her miniskirt.    "Beware the Radcliffe girl, my son!One, two!  One, two!  And through   The looks that melt, the claws thatand through  catch!The
05:20.58ulyxvenerable staff went snicker-snack!  Beware the Byrn Mawr deb, and shunHe left her bred, sans maidenhead,  The uppity Wellesleysnatch!"And went galumphing back.    He took his venerable staff in hand:"And hast thou laid the Radcliffe girl?  Long time the cool young stuff heCome to my arms, my horny boy!  sought --O spaced-out day!  Calooh!  Callay!"  So rested he among the spreeHe cackled in his joy.  And
05:20.59ulyxpaused to smoke some pot.  'Twas orgy, and the hip and mod  Did groove and trip out at the pad:  All whimsy were the slamming chicks,  And the Radcliffe undergrad.
05:21.01chouimatulyx fortune
05:21.02ulyx"I own my own body, but I share."
05:21.15chouimatulyx fortune SP
05:21.16ulyxWell Philip, I hope you've learned something throughg this whole experience.    I have Terrance. I've learned that you are a boner biting dick fart fuck  face.
05:21.55*** join/#zaurus Zxcvb (~msmustdie@ilchtn92.one-eleven.net)
05:22.02Zxcvbare the wifi issues fixed in OZ yet?
05:22.04chouimatulyx fortune homer
05:22.05ulyxMarge!  I'm two-thirty-nine, and I'm feeling fine!    -- Homer Simpson     Brush With Greatness
05:22.08kergothwhat issues?
05:22.16kergothThe only outstanding issue is with kismet.
05:22.54Zxcvbthe one where RC2 would not do WEP right or something like that
05:23.05kergothafaik its working fine
05:23.09kergothworks for my SMC anyway
05:23.14Zxcvbnice
05:23.27kergothlinksys card owners need to upgrade to hostap-modules from unstable, but other than that.
05:23.34kergothulyx: fortune SP
05:23.34ulyxYes, yes, I saw the Terrance and Philip movie. Who wants to touch me? I said  who wants to fucking touch me?
05:23.40kergothulyx: fortune SP
05:23.40ulyxHmmmmm, let's see. Well, first of all, you fuck pigs.    Oh yeah!
05:23.49Zxcvbheh, SP
05:23.50chouimatulyx fortune homer
05:23.51ulyxWeaseling out of things is important to learn.  It's what separates us  from the animals.  Except the weasel.    -- Homer Simpson     Boy-Scoutz n the Hood
05:24.01kergothulyx: fortune drugs
05:24.01ulyxWonderful day.  Your hangover just makes it seem terrible.
05:24.03Zxcvbany chance of that 4GB CF microdrive working in the Z?
05:24.07kergothulyx: fortune drugs
05:24.08ulyxClaret is the liquor for boys; port for men; but he who aspires to be a hero  ... must drink brandy.  -- Samuel Johnson
05:24.13Pendalarmy linksys cf sort of works without new hostap-mod's
05:24.21kergothPendalar: yeah, depends on the card
05:24.22kergothulyx: fortune drugs
05:24.23ulyxHarry's bar has a new cocktail.  It's called MRS punch.  They make it with  milk, rum and sugar and it's wonderful.  The milk is for vitality and the   sugar is for pep.  They put in the rum so that people will know what to do  with all that pep and vitality.
05:24.29kergothulyx: fortune men-women
05:24.30ulyxMarriage is a romance in which the hero dies in the first chapter.
05:24.31Pendalarwhich card are you refering to?
05:24.38Pendalarthere's only like.. 2.. afaik
05:24.44kergothwcf12 has no entry, wcf11 depends on model
05:24.51kergoththe wcf11 entry wasnt specific enough
05:24.54kergothit didnt have the manfid
05:24.58PendalarI have the wcf11
05:24.59ZxcvbI use a rat shack modem
05:25.02kergothyeah, i know you do
05:25.08kergothotherwise it wouldnt be working :)
05:25.14kergothulyx: fortune
05:25.14Pendalarhrm..
05:25.14ulyxYou can't underestimate the power of fear.  -- Tricia Nixon
05:25.20kergothulyx: fortune
05:25.21ulyxThere was a young man named Crockett  Whose balls got caught in a socket.  His wife was a bitch,  And she threw the switch,  As Crockett went off like a rocket.
05:25.40chouimathehe
05:25.44chouimatulyx fortune homer
05:25.45ulyxWeaseling out of things is important to learn.  It's what separates us  from the animals.  Except the weasel.    -- Homer Simpson     Boy-Scoutz n the Hood
05:25.47chouimatulyx fortune homer
05:25.48ulyxIt's just that I've only seen this movie twice before, and I've seen  you every night for the last eleven ye -- aha.  What I mean to say is:   We'll snuggle tomorrow, sweetie.  I promise.    -- Homer Simpson     Grampa vs. Sexual Inadequacy
05:25.57kergothhehe
05:26.01chouimatulyx fortune homer
05:26.01ulyxA boy without mischief is like a bowling ball without a liquid center.    -- Homer Simpson     Lisa the Greek
05:26.21chouimatulyx fortune homer
05:26.21ulyxYes!  Oh, yes!  Read it and weep!  In your face -- I got more chicken  bone!    -- Homer Simpson     When Flanders Failed
05:26.38corPendalar: ironic, i was settting up a wcf12 card when a qtopia reboot killed my z (temporarily)
05:26.48kergothulyx: fortune SP
05:26.49ulyxKyle's mom is a big fat fucking bitch!
05:26.59kergothulyx: fortune bofh-excuses
05:27.00ulyxBOFH Excuse #15:    temporary routing anomaly
05:27.07chouimatulyx fortune hitchhiker
05:27.08ulyx"It was real. At least, if it wasn't real, it did support   them, and as that is what sofas are supposed to do, this,   by any test that mattered, was a real sofa. "
05:27.15kergothhehe
05:27.20chouimatulyx fortune hitchhiker
05:27.20ulyxBOOKWhat to do if you find yourself stuck in a crack in   the ground  underneath a giant boulder you can't move, with no   hope of  rescue. Consider how lucky you are that life has   been good to  you so far. Alternatively, if life hasn't been good   to you so  far, which given your current circumstances seems   more likely,  consider how lucky you are that it won't be   troubling you much  longer.    -
05:27.21ulyxComforting advice for Ford and Arthur in this current   situation, Fit the Eighth.
05:27.36kergothhehe
05:27.42kergothulyx: fortune hitchhiker
05:27.43ulyx"`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.'  `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'"    - Arthur failing in his first lesson of galactic physics   in four years.
05:27.59kergothulyx: fortune hitchhiker
05:27.59chouimatulyx fortune hitchhiker
05:28.00ulyx"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a   lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad   move." - The Book just racapping what happened in the last   book.   "`I am so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in   me for a month. I am so hip I have difficulty seeing over   my pelvis.'"     - Zaphod being cool.
05:28.00ulyx"Oh no, not again."     - A bowl of petunias on it's way to certain death.
05:28.26chouimatulyx fortune hitchhiker
05:28.27ulyx"`Incidentally,' he said, `what does teleport mean?'  Another moment passed.  Slowly, the others turned to face him.  `Probably the wrong moment to ask,' said Arthur, `It's just   I remember you use the word a short while ago and I only   bring it up because...'  `Where,' said Ford quietly, `does it say teleport?'  `Well, just over here in fact,' said Arthur, pointing at a   dark control box in the rear of the cabin,
05:28.27ulyx`Just under the   word "emergency", above the word "system" and beside the   sign saying "out of order".'"    - Arthur finding an escape route from a certain death   situation.
05:28.59chouimatulyx fortune hitchhiker
05:29.00ulyx"What the hell, he thought, you're only young once, and   threw himself out of the window. That would at least keep   the element of surprise on his side."     - Ford outwitting a Vogon with a rocket launcher by going   into another certain death situation.
05:29.15kergothhehe
05:29.36kergothulyx: fortune hitchhiker
05:29.36ulyx"He expanded his chest to make it totally clear that here   was the sort of man you only dared to cross if you had a   team of Sherpas with you. "
05:29.42chouimatulyx fortune hitchhiker
05:29.43kergothulyx: fortune hitchhiker
05:29.44ulyx"`How do you feel?' he asked him.  `Like a military academy,' said Arthur, `bits of me keep   passing out.'" ....  `We're safe,' he said.  `Oh good,' said Arthur.  `We're in a small galley cabin,' said Ford, `in one of the   spaceships of the Vogon Constructor Fleet.'  `Ah,' said Arthur, `this is obviously some strange usage of   the word "safe" that I wasn't previously aware of.'    - Arthur after his first ever
05:29.44ulyxteleport ride.
05:29.44ulyx"I don't know, " said the voice on the PA, "apathetic   bloody planet, I've no sympathy at all. "
05:30.02chouimatulyx fortune hitchhiker
05:30.02ulyx"Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable   end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small   unregarded yellow sun. "
05:30.17chouimatulyx fortune hitchhiker
05:30.18ulyx"I don't know, " said the voice on the PA, "apathetic   bloody planet, I've no sympathy at all. "
05:30.22*** join/#zaurus TimRiker (~timr@68.116.236.204)
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05:30.23chouimatulyx fortune hitchhiker
05:30.23ulyx"`In those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high,   men were REAL men, women were REAL women, and small furry   creatures from Alpha Centauri were REAL small furry   creatures from Aplha Centauri.'"     - The Book getting all nostalgic.
05:31.17kergothulyx: fortune men-women
05:31.18ulyxAsked how she felt being the first woman to make a major-league team, she  said, "Like a pig in mud," or words to that effect, and then turned and  released a squirt of tobacco juice from the wad of rum soaked plug in her  right cheek.  She chewed a rare brand of plug called Stuff It, which she  learned to chew when she was playing Nicaraguan summer ball.  She told the  writers, "They were so mean to me down there you
05:31.18ulyxcouldn't write it in your  newspaper.  I took a gun everywhere I went, even to bed.  *Especially* to  bed.  Guys were after me like you can't believe.  That's when I started  chewing tobacco -- because no matter how bad anybody treats you, it's not  as bad as this.  This is the worst chew in the world.  After this,  everything else is peaches and cream."  The writers elected Gentleman Jim,  the Sparrow's P.R. guy, to
05:31.18ulyxbite off a chunk and tell them how it tasted,  and as he sat and chewed it tears ran down his old sunburnt cheeks and he  couldn't talk for a while. Then he whispered, "You've been chewing this for  two years?  God, I had no idea it was so hard to be a woman."  -- Garrison Keillor
05:31.43chouimatulyx fortune hitchhiker
05:31.44ulyx"`If there's anything more important than my ego around, I   want it caught and shot now.'"     - Zaphod.
05:32.00chouimatulyx fortune hitchhiker
05:32.01ulyxFORDTell me Arthur...  ARTHURYes?  FORDThis boulder we're stuck under, how big would you   say it was? Roughly?  ARTHUROh, about the size of Coventry Cathedral.  FORDDo you think we could move it? (Arthur doesn't   reply) Just asking.    - Ford and Arthur in a tricky situation, Fit the Eighth.
05:32.12kergothulyx: fortune men-women
05:32.12ulyxGive a woman an inch and she'll park a car in it.
05:32.21chouimatlol
05:32.25kergothlol
05:32.31treke|homeha
05:32.33chouimatulyx: fortune men-women
05:32.33ulyxA sharper perspective on this matter is particularly important to feminist  thought today, because a major tendency in feminism has constructed the  problem of domination as a drama of female vulnerability victimized by male  aggression.  Even the more sophisticated feminist thinkers frequently shy  away from the analysis of submission, for fear that in admitting woman's  participation in the relationship of
05:32.34ulyxdomination, the onus of responsibility  will appear to shift from men to women, and the moral victory from women to  men.  More generally, this has been a weakness of radical politics: to  idealize the oppressed, as if their politics and culture were untouched by  the system of domination, as if people did not participate in their own  submission.  To reduce domination to a simple relation of doer and done-to  is to
05:32.34ulyxsubstitute moral outrage for analysis.  -- Jessica Benjamin, "The Bonds of Love"
05:32.40chouimatulyx: fortune men-women
05:32.41ulyxToo much of a good thing is WONDERFUL.  -- Mae West
05:32.59kergothulyx: fortune men-women
05:33.00ulyxNo woman can call herself free until she can choose consciously whether  she will or will not be a mother.  -- Margaret H. Sanger
05:33.06kergothulyx: fortune men-women
05:33.06ulyxGenuine happiness is when a wife sees a double chin on her husband's  old girl friend.
05:33.21chouimatulyx: fortune men-women
05:33.22ulyx"You're just the sort of person I imagined marrying, when I was little...  except, y'know, not green... and without all the patches of fungus."  -- Swamp Thing
05:33.36chouimatulyx: fortune
05:33.36ulyxI think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass.  -- Barry Goldwater
05:33.41kergothulyx: fortune men-women
05:33.41ulyx"So you don't have to, Cindy, but I was wondering if you might  want to go to someplace, you know, with me, sometime."  "Well, I can think of a lot of worse things, David."  "Friday, then?"  "Why not, David, it might even be fun."  -- Dating in Minnesota
05:33.42chouimatulyx: fortune
05:33.44ulyxKill a commie for Christ!
05:33.53kergothlol
05:34.05chouimatulyx: fortune
05:34.05ulyx"If anyone wants to trade a couple of centrally located, well-cushioned  showgirls for an eroded slope 90 minutes from Broadway, I'll be on this  corner tomorrow at 11 with my tongue hanging out."  -- S. J. Perelman
05:34.11treke|homekergoth: is that fairly accurate for minnesota? :)
05:34.32chouimatulyx: fortune homer
05:34.32ulyxThey said the same thing about Urkle; that little snot.  Boy I'd like  to smack that kid.    -- Homer Simpson     Bart Gets Famous
05:34.52kergothhehe
05:34.54kergothulyx: fortune men-women
05:34.54ulyxI GUESS I'LL NEVER FORGET HER.  And maybe I don't want to.  Her spirit  was wild, like a wild monkey.  Her beauty was like a beautiful horse  being ridden by a wild monkey.  I forget her other qualities.  -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988.
05:35.16kergothulyx: fortune men-women
05:35.17ulyxCourtship to marriage, as a very witty prologue to a very dull play.  -- William Congreve
05:35.24chouimat|Zzzzkergoth: I will be good tonight, I won't kill ulyx :)
05:35.29kergothhehe, night
05:35.35chouimat|Zzzznight
05:38.08chouimat|Zzzzulyx: fortune homer
05:38.09ulyxFoul temptress.  I'll bet she thinks Ziggy's gotten too preachy, too!    -- Homer Simpson     The Last Temptation of Homer
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10:23.30ShiShihello
10:24.19ShiShiwhy when i sync my Z on my linux with Qtopiadesktop i cant 't up files
10:24.20ShiShi?
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11:32.49|ryan|hmmm
11:33.07|ryan|can anyone help me figure out what the problem with my wireless is?
11:34.18|ryan|arg....
11:34.24|ryan|this is ticking me off
11:35.03|ryan|my card is reporting 100% signal, 85% noise at 10 feet.
11:35.53|ryan|and the AP Client next door is working fine, hardly any packet loss.
11:38.28WintreMust be something else wrong
11:38.55|ryan|it's been doing this on other access points too (at work)
11:40.06|ryan|I can't figure out where the noise is coming from
11:40.17|ryan|I used kismet to check for other APs
11:40.30|ryan|the only ones remotely in range are on a diffrent channel
11:41.27troffasky|ryan|: you got some cordless phones near you?
11:41.28ulyx*shrug*
11:42.21|ryan|troffasky: I don't think so
11:42.53|ryan|the one I have is 900 MHz
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11:54.31musicNot straightforward.
12:07.34Trinity_Hi, would anybody please help me flashing my Zaurus
12:07.40Trinity_I am very new to it
12:15.19Trinity_I downloaded zImgage an initrd.bin and copied it via card-reader to a msdos (fat16) formated sd card. Now, trying to flash the Zaurus,  zImage and initrd are not found
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13:20.25supermattTrinity_:  you can only flash from CF cards
13:20.33racemeTrinity_: you can only flash from a CF card
13:21.01supermattI raced you and won
13:21.09Trinity_:-)
13:21.17raceme:)
13:21.17Trinity_thanx guys
13:21.21supermattnp
13:21.25epromhow many credz ? :)
13:21.36racemesupermatt: there is no connection between my nick and "race me" :)
13:21.48supermatt:)
13:22.21supermattthere is no connection between my nick and my special powers
13:22.27Trinity_But maybe a connection between you and your nick
13:23.36Trinity_;-)
13:23.58supermatthurrah :)
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15:26.16ripperhey all
15:26.20ripperim about to buy a zaurus
15:26.40ripperi have to choose between a usb or serial adapter, which is faster?
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15:29.45ripperhi icefox
15:31.01rippericefox: ?
15:31.05icefoxhi
15:31.09ripperhi
15:31.16icefoxWhats up
15:31.22ripperim about to buy a zaurus, and have to choose between docking
15:31.28ripperwhich is faster, ub or serial?
15:31.33rippers/ub/usb
15:31.40icefoxusb is of course
15:31.45icefoxwhy would you have to choose?
15:32.28ripperwhich to buy
15:32.33ripperwhy would i buy both?
15:32.36icefoxwhy would you have to choose?
15:32.43icefoxusb comes by default
15:32.50ripperoh, didnt know
15:32.51icefoxI don't know of where you can get it with just serial
15:33.00icefoxI work for Sharp :-D
15:33.07icefoxUnless you look on ebay
15:33.07rippercool :)
15:33.14ripperim buying it from australia
15:33.27ripperand the only reatiler seems odd
15:34.10racemeicefox: do you know when the 5600 is available in europe ?
15:34.11ripperand the reatiler here, doesnt seem to be selling the same version as us
15:34.16Trinity_sharp usa? We have also a branch in the U.S. :-)
15:34.43icefoxraceme: sorry I don't
15:34.56ripperperhaps you guys couldd check if it is same as us version?
15:35.16rippereverythinglinux.com.au and look for zaurus
15:35.37rippericefox: how would you rate the addon digital camera?
15:35.46ripperdoes it compare well to a seperate digital camera?
15:36.02racemeicefox: no pb
15:36.50ripperis usb1 still faster than serial? i don't have usb2
15:36.59icefoxripper; I have samples up
15:37.00racemeripper: yes it is
15:37.30icefoxhttp://www.csh.rit.edu/~benjamin/whoisben/gallery/dir.php?gallery=2002/Zaurus%20Camera/
15:37.32rippericefox, where abouts?
15:37.35ripperoh :)
15:37.39ripperthanks raceme
15:37.53ripperyour studying icefox?
15:39.23ripperalso, it says it can play mpeg-1...are not most mpeg files these days mpeg2?
15:39.41rippersorry for bucketload of questions, but i cant exactly talk to salepeople
15:39.42icefoxnope
15:39.45icefoxmost are mp4
15:39.55icefoxDVD's are mpeg2
15:40.02ripperahh
15:40.02icefoxbut most small movies are mpeg1
15:40.28ripperdoes zaurus in us come with docking station?
15:40.34Trinity_uaaaaaaaah ..... cubicles!
15:40.49icefoxripper: yes
15:40.51icefoxLike my cube
15:40.52icefoxhaha
15:41.02Trinity_*shiver*
15:41.37ripperso...no need to buy ac adapter, or battery, or usb cable and docking sation, or anything serial
15:41.47ripperretailer her makes it seem like i do
15:41.51icefoxif you want serial you have to buy it
15:41.51Trinity_no picture from SuSE on the LWE :-((((
15:42.37rippericefox, can you recommend a good wireless CF card?
15:43.39icefoxsocket
15:43.52icefoxTrinity_: not up in that batch?
15:44.09racemeripper: everything is in the pack: the unit, the dock station, the usb cable and the ac power cable which is common for the zaurus and the dock station
15:44.10rippericefox, what software are you using to display those photos?
15:44.21icefoxPHPQuickPhoto
15:44.25icefoxI wrote it
15:44.26ripperthanks again raceme :)
15:44.26icefox:-D
15:44.30racemeripper: but you can buy a 1Gb SD card to install apps :)
15:44.30ripperahh
15:44.34ripperfree?
15:44.38icefoxjust about
15:44.43icefoxpostcardwear/gpl
15:44.53ripperits exactly what im looking for :)
15:45.00icefoxno admin at all
15:45.01icefoxhehe
15:45.11Trinity_icefox: I hope so ;-)
15:45.25icefoxjust copy the photos in and it does the rest creating thumbnails and deleting them when the images are gone
15:45.26icefoxetc
15:46.52rippernice indeed :)
15:46.56icefoxisn't up for download yet, but will be within the week
15:47.05rippercoolies
15:47.13ripperim looking at your nine progrm now
15:47.25icefoxhehe
15:47.30icefoxsomeday I will re-write that with templates
15:48.27ripperhmm
15:48.39ripperlsdvd, how does it compare to xine, mplayer etc
15:48.55icefoxkickes all their butts
15:49.31icefoxperfect syncing of audio and video withing 1 frame running full framerate on a celeron 300
15:49.43icefoxfull menu/subpicture/branching/mutexing
15:49.47icefoxetc
15:49.59icefoxeverything you would expect in a stand alone player we did
15:50.03rippersounds worth it
15:50.16icefoxand I got paid to do it :-D
15:50.34icefoxhttp://kaylee.meyerhome.net:81/~ben/ben/programs/program.php?program=LSDVD
15:50.37icefoxThere is the new site
15:52.07ripperthat would explain the absenc of info on that other site :)
15:52.23supermattintersting screenshot
15:52.28icefox:-D
15:52.33icefoxthe easter egg
15:52.39icefoxcan't exactly show the player
15:52.40supermatthehe
15:53.37icefoxhttp://kaylee.meyerhome.net:81/~ben/ben/programs/program.php?program=PHPQuickGallery
15:53.45ripperso lsdvd is no more?
15:53.50icefoxno more
15:54.23rippermy bried glimmerof hope, for dvd under linux, shattered
15:54.26ripperahh well ;)
15:54.37ripperhow was CA?
15:54.50ripperim hoping to to longbeach as an exchange student around july
15:54.52Trinity_it is not a Linux ver. DVD-PRob I think
15:55.09ripperhmm
15:56.51rippericefox, your megadrink program. I had no idea soda machines had network capabilities
16:00.04ripperdoes anyone knowof a zaurus app to use it as a remote?
16:00.46supermattripper: see http://zsi2.stonekeep.com
16:00.59ripperthanks supermatt
16:01.03supermattnp
16:01.42chouimatmorning
16:06.19icefoxripper: hehe yah we wired it ourseves
16:06.46icefoxTrinity_: it was a linux dvd program.
16:07.28rippericefox, sounds like an interesting project, details available anywhere?
16:07.41icefoxyup follow the link
16:07.44icefoxwww.csh.rit.edu
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16:09.32icefoxofftopic: http://www.transfandom.net/forums/index.php?s=4a86e77ccf72df93231012fa621e76f6&act=ST&f=7&t=742
16:09.35icefoxUnicron!
16:13.53ripperlol, the drink machine embossed with the bsd daemon, nice :)
16:14.09icefoxAt one time it ran bsd
16:14.15icefoxnow it runs a javaboard
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16:15.09ripperhow did it run bsd?
16:15.18ripperi cant seem to find a link to who it used to work
16:15.54supermattulyx: lart no coffee
16:16.01supermattulyx: lart no coffee
16:19.31icefoxripper: there was a laptop in it
16:20.48Trinity_icefox: DVD works for me
16:22.28icefoxum, k
16:22.29icefox:-D
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16:26.36warmihi
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16:31.56JasonNJmorning.
16:35.34Pendalarsup
16:36.43warmianyone here running Linux on a laptop ( preferably IBM one ) ?
16:37.19warmiI am having problems with it - it tends to go into "suspend mode" every 4-5 minutes regardless of what I am doing ..
16:37.21warmivery annoying
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16:54.35icefoxwarmi: I have a Sharp laptop and have the same problem
16:54.42icefoxI just turn off suspend
16:56.55warmihow do I do that ?
16:57.23warmiit is this a BIOS setting ?
16:57.52warmiI killed apmd but it still does it
16:58.11warmiI don't need no stinking power management - I can handle that myself :-)
16:58.21warmiI just need to know how to turn it off
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17:14.09mewynugh
17:16.26mewynthat was the crappiest sleep i've had in a while
17:17.41warmiwasn't that crappy - you got up at 11
17:17.42warmihehe
17:18.23mewynwell, i went to bed at 2, and got woken up at 6 and couldn't go back to sleep til 9.  that and i have this terrible pain in my neck
17:18.55warmiwell, some days are like that
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17:22.17mewynyah
17:22.42mewynand tonight i have to go up to mchenry
17:22.53mewynneed to visit a friend in the hospital
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17:36.47JasonNJsup.
17:36.58Neo|WorkLyo
17:37.01Neo|Workoops
17:37.03Neo|Workyo even
17:38.31chouimathi JasonNJ
17:42.10cordoes anybody know what file format is used when qtopia desktop saves/syncs with z?
17:42.10cori need to recover my data off a dead windows partition, what would i look for (assuming i can rescue with knoppix)
17:43.27coryou mean like one xml file per app?
17:43.34corie. calendar.xml?
17:48.14Twiunhiya JAson
17:52.25Neo|WorkJason has this tendency to log in, sey 'sup' and then vanish for hours. :P
17:52.25Twiunno kidding
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17:52.25TwiunI have to grep my logs to find out how he is too
17:52.25Neo|Work"without a job' is a short summary
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17:52.31Twiunyeah, two week's holiday is another
17:54.16warmiNeo|Work: Jason doesn't work for Sharp anymore ?
17:54.23Neo|Workcorrect
17:54.30Neo|Worksince like Friday last week or something
17:54.37warmiwhat happened ? he quit on his own ?
17:54.42Neo|Workno
17:54.56Neo|Workand you'd have to pry an answer from him, should he ever awaken. :P
17:55.04chouimatwarmi: his contracts ended
17:55.20warmiah and I understand Sharp didn't want to extend it ?
17:55.38warmiuh ,, I wonder if this is an indication of their plans for the US/Zaurus combo
17:56.53Twiunwarmi: no idea... I just scanned my logs and didn't get that much detail
17:57.59warmiheh
17:58.08warmioh well, perhaps he was just tired of it all
17:58.21Twiunconsidering he gets talkative at around 3am my time :)
17:58.59Pendalaras best I can remember, it wasn't his choice and he's considered 'a friend of the company'.. but ya ask him if he doesn't mind going through it for the 15th time
17:59.28warmiis icefox still working for them ?
18:00.22PendalarI haven't seen a mention that he isn't
18:00.30Pendalarbut he may prefer not to discuss it
18:00.53Pendalarsev' pay is tricky that way if they make you go quietly
18:01.07trekeicefox: is still logged on from within sharp
18:01.59chouimatany one had read Robert jordan's wheels of time?
18:02.08Twiunnot yet
18:02.54chouimatTwiun: I just go the 9 books in pdf
18:06.29Twiunlegit?
18:06.45chouimatTwiun: kazaa
18:06.50Twiuntsk :)
18:07.00chouimatTwiun: :P
18:07.15TwiunI prefer txt anyway... newsgroups - I end up buying the dead tree ones anyway
18:07.25Twiunreading the cryptomnicon atm
18:07.29chouimatTwiun: good?
18:07.39Twiundefinately interesting
18:09.21chouimatTwiun: I have 1400+ ebooks here so I will check
18:10.01mewynchouimat: you have the harry potter series?
18:10.32chouimatmewyn: author?
18:11.04chouimatmewyn: Harry Potter 1,2,3 and 4
18:11.06Twiunchouimat: I don't keep count ;-) I'm sure I have duplicates
18:11.16mewynchouimat: can you mail them to me?
18:11.16Pendalarpaper warez.. fun
18:11.29chouimatmewyn: *.txt or *.pdb?
18:11.41mewyntxt
18:11.48chouimatibot tux_mike
18:11.49hmm... tux_mike is Mike Crawford <mailto:mike@tuxnami.org>
18:13.35TwiunPendalar: 'tis not warez! it's, it's... aw sod it, it's something
18:14.16Pendalar'tis not warez, more so whenz?' as my brother would say
18:14.22chouimatmewyn: 1.8MB email
18:14.41mewyncan you send them in seperate messages?
18:16.43TwiunNow, now guys... take this to /msg please before lilo pops in here :)
18:16.56Twiunalso remember there's a public log of this place
18:16.58mewynhehe
18:17.03mewynbah
18:17.37trekechouimat: package them into ipks and put up a feed :)
18:18.11chouimatmewyn: send
18:18.16icefoxhey
18:18.22icefoxsomoen ping me about Sharp?
18:18.22PendalarI have no PDA warez, so =-P
18:18.26icefoxYah I still work for Sharp
18:18.44mewynit's not illegal if you own the books :)
18:19.18Pendalaricefox move to PR or hiring to be specific, and get some of us in
18:19.20icefoxhehe I have *every* commercial Z app.  Internal testing only though I hit reset so often I think server manager is the only real thing I install when I reset.
18:19.36icefoxhaha
18:19.41icefoxwhere do you live Pendalar
18:19.42trekeall the good apps are opensource :)
18:19.53icefoxwell some of tkc's are very nice
18:20.07icefoxhttp://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=slrnb2u470.ugk.ylee%40pobox.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fselm%3Dslrnb2u470.ugk.ylee%2540pobox.com
18:20.08trekelies
18:20.11icefoxouch
18:20.13icefoxlies?
18:20.27icefoxtkcgallery _was_ the solution before mooview came out
18:20.46icefoxI know many people who buy the entire pim suit
18:21.23trekeand I know many people who like Windows, what's your point?
18:21.34icefoxanyway
18:21.43icefoxyah Jason is no longer with Sharp
18:21.58icefoxAnd I have taken over his responsibilites
18:23.00Twiunlol, along with additional money?
18:24.13icefoxnope
18:24.16icefoxmore stress
18:24.28icefoxand I have to move everything downstairs next week
18:24.31mewynthat's always how it is
18:24.37icefoxand I migrated our primary server yesterday
18:24.44icefoxBUT! I got kde 3.1 working
18:24.44icefoxhehe
18:25.07Twiunit's an achievement of sorts I suppose :)
18:25.12icefoxyup
18:25.13chouimaticefox: you will do a 2 men jobs?
18:25.18icefoxpretty theme
18:25.25icefoxhehe many more then 2
18:25.32icefoxJason and I did tech support internally too
18:25.52icefoxfor sales/marketing along with watching the cummunity and helping developers
18:26.10chouimaticefox: ouch ... I would replace a complete development team than doing tech support again
18:27.05PendalarGA, USA
18:27.05icefoxwell I am not doing tech support in the normal regard
18:27.12icefoxi.e. I don't get outside calls
18:27.28Pendalarwhy?
18:27.51icefoxI get the calls from the core engineer who works at lokeed after 3 weeks of not getting it working and my bosses bosses boss wants the project to succeed so I get the call type of call
18:28.12icefox:-D
18:28.33chouimaticefox: I spend the morning explaining how IPSEC vpn works and why the setup of that client won't work, and that guys wouldn't understand so he spend 2 hours yelling at me over the phone ...
18:28.48icefoxa bit different.  When I say to them that they need to patch kernel with foo and recompile and then modify this file before rebuilding the rom they simply say OK and thanks.
18:29.02icefoxchouimat: ouch
18:29.07Pendalarbtw icefox, did you finish php image gallary?
18:29.16icefoxyah works in kde 3.1
18:29.32icefoxhave 3 errors before w3 validates it
18:29.37icefoxdon't know how to fix them though
18:29.50icefoxand still work in konq/moz/ie
18:30.08icefoxPendalar: but if you promis to upgrade when I release i will send you the code
18:30.09chouimaticefox: he didn't wnat to buy me a second firewall/vpn so he tried to log to the one he got with a nat-t thingy but 2 connections from the same ip isn't supported in free unixes yet
18:30.18Pendalarsure
18:30.28icefoxe-mail?
18:30.34Pendalarwhatever makes you happy
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18:30.42Pendalaralthough you prob still have my email address
18:30.45icefoxactually hold one sec
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18:32.53icefoxhttp://kaylee.meyerhome.net:81/~ben/ben/programs/program.php?program=PHPQuickGallery
18:32.58icefoxOk the download link works
18:33.17icefoxinstall insturctions are a little ruff still
18:33.30icefoxcopy gallery_settings.inc to the parent dir
18:33.31icefoxand run
18:33.33icefox:-D
18:33.56Pendalareasy enough
18:34.18icefoxreport any problems etc that you have so that I can clean them up for the real 1.0 release
18:34.29PendalarI'll upload it and play when my web server admin finishes updating the box for the 16th time today
18:35.02Pendalardo you really care if w3 likes it?
18:35.05icefoxhehe I love the new PHP pages I made for my downloads
18:35.16icefoxPendalar: well generally if w3 likes it then i.e. likes it
18:35.36icefoxand if w3 doesn't that I.E. is a pain in the butt to make it work
18:35.46icefoxhehe
18:36.16Pendalartrue
18:37.11Pendalarrequires ispell ?
18:37.12icefoxbut yes at this point I guess at this point getting good install instructions has the highest priority
18:37.15icefoxdoesn't require
18:37.22icefoxbut if you want spell checking it does
18:37.24PendalarI was about to say that's a first
18:37.45icefoxkick ass feature I must say
18:39.49icefoxif you don't plan on adding comments from the command line then it isn't required
18:39.56icefoxand of course easily changed to aspell
18:40.33PendalarI generally don't use eithre
18:40.37Pendalareither
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18:41.26icefoxIt was one of those features where it can't  hurt to check and was almost at no cost to the user
18:41.42icefoxlike the red squigly line in word
18:41.43icefoxhehe
18:42.30PendalarI've use php for basically all CGIish functions, but it messes me up switching back and forth between it and C
18:43.04icefoxyah
18:43.09icefoxI keep forgetting to put $
18:44.13Pendalartoo perly for me I guess
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18:55.51nayrwhats some OZ mirrors?
18:55.55nayrsince SF seems to be down
18:56.00nayror under maintnance
18:56.16nayri need initrid for oz3.1rc2
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19:12.36Pendalarwww.openzaurus.org ?
19:13.49nayrits back up now
19:14.03nayrlil while ago
19:14.03nayrsf and oz were down
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19:41.38General_Lppl
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19:42.11General_LAnyone know where I can get a good price on a zaurus (or should I wait until the new model is out) in EU (they need to ship to sweden
19:42.18icefoxebay
19:42.32lariosZZsome body knows if exist some program like amsn for Open Zaurus ????
19:42.40General_Licefox: I want a new one
19:43.00icefoxoh
19:43.02icefoxpricewatch
19:43.35Pendalarfor msn messenger?
19:44.06icefoxlariosZZ: what is amsn?
19:44.11Pendalaryou can get new off ebay often enough
19:44.17Pendalarpeople buy in bulk, et
19:44.20Pendalar+c
19:44.29lariosZZlike gaim .... but only for messenger
19:44.34PendalarlariosZZ if you mean msn messenger, you need kmerlin ipkg
19:44.40icefoxibot zsi
19:45.03lariosZZbut it exist in Open Zaurus?
19:45.16icefoxthey are binary compatible
19:45.17icefoxit will work
19:45.18mewynanyone here use debian?
19:45.21icefoxme
19:45.47lariosZZme
19:45.49lariosZZok thx
19:45.53Pendalaryes it works fine
19:46.07Pendalaruse it everyday..
19:46.24mewynicefox: i want to grab a boot cd, and get packages off the interenet.  i need kde3.1 to be installed, and kernel 2.4 during the install.  how would i go about it?
19:46.35icefoxinstall woody
19:46.45icefoxdon't install X11 in the installer
19:46.56icefoxpoint sources to woody kde 3.1 debs
19:47.02icefoxget kde and X and fonts
19:47.06icefoxupgrade kernel
19:47.10icefoxI did just that yesterday
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19:48.07frankpshi all
19:48.13trekeicefox: 3.1 has started going into unstable
19:48.25icefoxyah but it was such a mess
19:48.29icefoxso I went back to stable
19:48.34trekeah
19:48.42mewynis there an install system that uses 2.4?
19:48.59trekethere is a 2.4 version of the bootflopies
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19:49.09icefoxsay again?
19:49.15icefoxstupid ksirc
19:49.21mewyntreke: can't use floppies
19:49.24mewynonly cd
19:50.25trekeI would think all of the cds could do 2.4
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19:50.54mewynis testing == woody?
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19:51.18weezhey
19:51.22icefoxtreke: I was able to apt-get 2.4 in stable
19:51.25mewynhey weez, warmi
19:52.03Pendalarsome guy just asked me on efnet why apt-get RH8 didn't work
19:52.32mewynask him if windows update will work on osx :)
19:52.33General_Ltreke: just write bf24 at the installationm prompt if you boot from the cd and you will get the 2.4 kernel and so from scratch..
19:52.39General_Lfrom start even
19:52.54PendalarI started to tell him windows update would install RH8 for him
19:52.59Pendalarbut thought that would be a bit mean
19:53.08General_LPendalar: lol
19:53.17treketesting == sarge
19:53.22trekestable == woody
19:53.29trekemewyn: do what General_L said :)
19:53.41mewynok
19:53.47trekethat loads the 2.4 version of bootfloppies of the cd :)
19:53.59mewynnone of my systems work right with 2.2
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19:54.33General_LIs there any "testing for diffrent cert" software for the zaurus?
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19:55.59icefoxcert?
19:56.39General_Licefox: like "traning for the lpi or redhat certification or ccna
20:00.10icefoxGeneral_L: yes bigger battery
20:01.12General_Licefox: cool I will wait for the new model then
20:01.38Pendalarhehe go ahead and ask him when ;-)
20:01.55General_Lalso the lineo guys where damn friendly each year! I loved the zaurus phone last year
20:02.22icefox?
20:02.24icefoxphone?
20:02.35icefoxare you talking 99?
20:02.46icefoxDo you mean the Plan9 phone?
20:04.07General_Licefox: dunno what the model where but the lineo guy showed it to me it where a pda phone
20:04.24General_Lnamed zaurus something! just a dev model ofcourse
20:04.31General_Lbut worked good what I saw :)
20:04.38icefoxhmmm interesting
20:04.52icefoxIt might have been an early Sharp prototype
20:05.00icefoxI thought they were just renderings, but hey
20:05.03icefoxcool nonless
20:05.20icefoxBut either A they ran Java and not linux or B it wasn't a Zaurus
20:05.30General_Lthey run linux
20:05.39General_Land it was a zaurus
20:06.37General_Latleast what he said :) and they synced it and so and the trolltech people where there also
20:07.20icefoxand it had a phone?
20:07.29icefoxor was it a mock up?
20:07.34icefoxin the USA?
20:07.53icefoxWhat year?
20:07.56General_Lit had a phone
20:07.59General_Lcebit germany 2002
20:08.08General_LI talked in it so yes it had a phone :)
20:08.26General_Lsharp did't show it lineo did
20:09.26icefoxahhh
20:09.56icefoxThat was the iris
20:10.11General_Loki?
20:10.14icefoxThat was for europe only, but it was killed
20:10.19General_Lah I see :(((
20:10.32General_LI wonder when IBM will show theire zaurus
20:10.36General_Land what the price tag will be
20:11.05trekeI wonder how longibm is going to stick with sharp
20:11.32General_Ltreke: until they make thiere own linux pda you mean?
20:12.10trekeGeneral_L: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9222005703.html
20:13.52General_Ltreke: WEEEEEEEEEEE
20:13.57Pendalarer I don't like rpms
20:14.01icefoxtreke: they aren't going to make their own
20:14.06Pendalarwhat a silly setup these people have
20:14.21icefoxthat is cool
20:14.28icefoxBut it is purly a moc up
20:14.30trekeicefox: It just seems odd that they would try pushing that design for others while buying a product based on a competing design from sharp :)
20:14.38icefoxi.e. OEM's can then take it
20:14.51icefoxi.e. use our new chips, we don't care what it runms
20:15.03icefoxtreke: two different deparments
20:15.18icefoxthe above link is purly for the power4 guys
20:15.32icefoxput ms, put palm, put linux they don't care
20:15.36icefoxthey just want sales
20:15.47icefoxthe Sharp/IBM deal puts software on the z
20:15.52icefoxnothing to do with hardwarew
20:17.18Cloudchaserhello everyone
20:17.37icefoxMooo
20:17.39mewynhey cc
20:18.00Cloudchaseris there anyone here familiar with running java applications?
20:18.13mewynicefox: is debian using gcc 3.2/glibc 2.3?
20:18.32Cloudchaseri'm trying to run jpluck..i had it running once before but it doesn't seem to want to run today
20:18.51trekemewyn: stable doesnt
20:18.52icefoxmewyn: unstable is moving to 3.2 this very moment
20:19.00Cloudchaseri get command (java) not found..and i did all the exports that it said to
20:19.02trekestable uses 2.95, glibc 2.3 I think
20:19.19mewynice: unstable is not testing, right?
20:19.23trekeright
20:19.50mewyndoes unstable have gcc 3.2 in it yet?
20:19.59General_Lmewyn: yeah
20:20.03icefoxyes
20:20.04trekemewyn: stable and unstable both have 3.2 in it
20:20.17icefoxunstable is simply moving all of the binaries to 3.2
20:20.25trekemewyn: The difference in unstable is that 3.2 is becoming the default compiler and being used to compile the system
20:20.47mewynk.  is there a boot cd image for unstable?
20:20.51trekeno
20:21.03mewynnow, how the hell am i supposed to install it?
20:21.08trekeusing stable
20:21.15mewynhrm?
20:21.19Neo|Workhttp://www.ericharshbarger.com/lego/mononoke.html
20:21.25trekeyou install stable and upgrade to unstable
20:21.34mewyneep
20:21.49mewynthat sounds like it will take longer than needed
20:22.04icefoxmewyn: why do you need unstable?
20:22.21mewyni like the performance improvements with 3.2
20:22.25mewynmostly
20:28.36icefoxah
20:28.37icefoxsame here
20:28.42icefoxbut I want kde 3.1 first
20:28.51icefoxso I am sticking  with woody for a few weeks
20:29.02icefoxthen I will move to unstable when kde 3.1 is firmly in
20:29.58mewyni guess i'll give it a few weeks still
20:30.30mewynhey, what's the line in XF86Config to go to a font server for fonts instead of direcotries?
20:31.05icefoxnot sure, just use the kde gui for it :-D
20:31.32mewynwhat kde gui?
20:31.36treke<PROTECTED>
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20:31.52mewyntreke: thanks
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20:35.10Neo|WorkAh, a new port I must get
20:36.17trekewe gonna see a new release any time soon?
20:36.28Neo|WorkI hope to have something by the end of the month
20:36.35Neo|WorkI have been, frankly, lazy
20:36.38Neo|Workdue to various reasons
20:36.57warmirelease of what ?
20:37.19Neo|Workgame by me I presume he meant. :P
20:37.29warmihehehe
20:39.18warmiaren't you working on that Elite style game ?
20:39.36warmiI thought you said this would take another 6 months to finish
20:40.12Neo|WorkI have a number of unfinished ports
20:40.22Neo|WorkDragon Bane 2 will probablu be the next one
20:41.14warmithis admission of Sharp dropping hopes for competing against PPC in the consumer market is a reason for that ?
20:41.22warmior just "general lack of motivation" ?
20:41.22warmihehe
20:42.44General_Lwhy can't anyone working on north and south with tcp/ip support ? :)
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20:43.27warmiyou mean that old Amiga game ?
20:43.56General_Lwarmi: exactly
20:43.57markwhat are you guys opinions about running a system with a bust chipset fan?
20:44.15warmidepends what kind of system
20:44.19warmiAthlon will fry
20:44.25warmiintel will just shut down itself
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20:44.53markthere is a heatsink on it though..
20:45.03warmiheatsink won't do shit these days
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20:45.08markwarmi: its an athlon. its not the CPU - its the mainboards chipset
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20:45.19kergothyo
20:45.23warmiI fried my 1 GHZ athlon in less than 2 secs with heatsink on
20:45.36markwarmi: yes, i managed something simliar
20:45.41warmiah, mainboard ..
20:45.45warmiI have no clue about that
20:46.16marksome guy in a store once otld me they were pretty much okay without a fan, but i dont want to fry this
20:46.17markgrr
20:46.37warmiI don't even have a motherboard that requires one
20:46.41mewynwarmi: what happened, no thermal compound?
20:47.14warmimewyn:  actually I fried 2 - one fried itself because fan connector died on motherboard
20:47.21mewynouch
20:47.25warmiand the other I fried myself by turing off fan for about 2 seconds
20:47.50markwarmi: heh.  same happened to me, i thought it'd be okay for a tiny amount of time
20:48.07warmino, with Athlons we taking here instant death
20:48.36markwarmi: its amazing how quickly they go
20:49.20warmiwell, I think latest cpus from AMD do have some sort of heat emergency circuit that will shut everything down when it gets too hot
20:49.25warmijust like Intel's stuff
20:49.47markhmm, this feels too hot.  /me shuts down
20:49.48markc ya all
20:49.59warmihehe
20:50.01warmisee you
20:50.09mewynwarmi: they always did, but it doesn't work on amd's because it responds too slowly
20:50.26mewynby the time the mobo gets the fact that the cpu is overheating, it's dead
20:50.36warmihehehe
20:50.39warmithat's funny
20:50.44mewynbrb... restarting x
20:51.06Neo|Workwarmi: no, the only reason for lagging releases is me
20:51.11Neo|WorkI don't do this for money rememebr? :P
20:51.23warmiyeah,
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20:53.50mewynbetter
20:55.51mewynok, the fact that acrobat reader won't work is something with redhat
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21:10.55untornis there anyway to have the zaurus run a security *.scp when connecting via modem??
21:11.09trekewhat is a .scp?
21:12.36untorndial up script
21:13.06untornin windows the script runs right before the verification of username and password...
21:13.20trekethats windows
21:13.38untornmy isp requires the use of this script to reencode the username before letting me connect.
21:18.00oGMojust figure out what it's doing and make something that does the same thing
21:18.12oGMoand tell your isp they suck
21:18.22mewyni hate jack valenti... "It now costs about $350,000 to produce a CD; it costs $80 million to make and market a movie. Big difference. The MPAA could live with the fifteen million homes that currently have broadband internet access. But when sixty million homes have broadband, plus the people on fast connections in universities, making it so easy to bring down a movie in minutes..."  so, he's saying /everyone/ is going to break the law
21:19.11untornwell my isp is roadrunner...I have a cable modem but they offer free dial-up service when you travel so I am trying that out...
21:22.45chouimat|boredmewyn: calm down
21:22.58chouimat|boredulyx fortune
21:22.58ulyxYou are at a business lunch when you are suddenly overcome with an  uncontrollable desire to pick your nose.  Since this is definitely a  no-no, you:    (a) Pretend to wave to someone across the room and with one fluid      motion, bury your forefinger in your nostril right up to the 4th      joint.    (b) Get everyone drunk and organize a nose picking contest with a prize      to the one who makes his nose bleed
21:22.58ulyxfirst.    (c) Drop your napkin on the floor, and when you bend over to pick it up,      blow your nose on your sock.
21:23.16mewynchouimat: i don't get this idiot
21:23.44chouimat|boredmewyn: be zen :)
21:23.55mewyni'm anti zen
21:24.12mewyni get worked up when people call me a thief, and i 'm not
21:24.16chouimat|boredmewyn: ok lart him then
21:25.02chouimat|boredmewyn: they lose money only on single hit wonders and crap like j-lo, but they make money on lesser known band
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21:31.46mewyni just don't like being insulted like this
21:32.00mewynthe guy also doesnt take into account circumstances
21:34.18mewynhttp://shogun.shafted.com.au/temp/cnnsucks.jpg
21:35.53chouimat|boredmewyn: I knew it NASA developped a WARP DRIVE and they tested it on columbia ...
21:36.09mewynyup
21:36.15mewynthat's why.  word is out
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21:45.29|ryan|grrrr
21:45.52|ryan|Why is my stupid wireless card reporting so much noise
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21:47.24|ryan|anyone else his issues with the netgear MA701?
21:59.52kergothre
22:00.02mewynhey kerg
22:00.11markhi mewyn, kergoth
22:00.29mewynhey mark
22:02.53kergothhey mark
22:07.55nayrhrmm, i just flashed my Z to OZ3.1rc2.. this is my first time using OZ.. how do I get my WCF12 linksys reconized.. I poped it in and it said unknown card
22:12.04kergothnayr: read the mailing list archives. upgrade to hostap-modules from unstable
22:12.45nayrk, thx
22:12.51kergothnp
22:28.17JasonNJsup.
22:28.41nayrkergoth: i downloaded hostap-modules and put it on my local feed (cause havent got inet routed thru USB yet) and when i tried to run the script to make the Packages list it says its not a gzip format
22:28.46nayri used wget
22:28.59kergothits not a gzip format.
22:29.06nayro
22:29.09kergothyou need http://openzaurus.org/ipkg-make-index
22:29.15kergothits the version that handles both ipk formats
22:29.22nayrokie dokie, thx
22:30.03kergothnp
22:38.29Neo|WorkJasonNJ: wb. :P
22:39.28Neo|Workibot: be JasonNJ
22:39.28sup.
22:39.35kergothhehe
22:39.44kergothibot: emulate JasonNJ is <reply> see be JasonNJ
22:39.45okay, kergoth
22:39.50kergothibot: emulate JasonNJ
22:39.51sup.
22:40.07kergothibot: emulate kergoth
22:40.08ACTION mutters about buildsystems and tells people to RTFM.
22:40.09Neo|Workhm
22:40.20Neo|Workibot: emulate Neo|Work
22:40.20bugger all, i dunno, Neo|Work
22:40.29trekeibot be ljp
22:40.30wish i knew, treke
22:40.31Neo|Workso is that just a normal alias or ?
22:40.38kergothyeah
22:40.39trekeibot be BigBoss
22:40.40treke: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface.
22:40.54kergothibot: emulate Neo|Work is <action> curses TrollTech
22:40.55okay, kergoth
22:40.57kergothibot: emulate Neo|Work
22:40.58ACTION curses TrollTech
22:42.46nayrkergoth: does the usb cradle work with OZ?
22:42.59kergothnayr: yep
22:45.08Neo|Workbad, ibot can't handle multiple action/reply for one string
22:45.49kergothyeah i noticed that
22:45.55kergoth|| doesnt work when dealing with actions
22:46.08kergothshould pester tim :)
22:46.15kergothcourse he'll just say Patches Welcome
22:46.16kergothhehe
22:46.32kergothibot: pester Neo|Work
22:46.33Neo|Work: PESTER PESTER PESTER!
22:46.42kergothhmm
22:46.54Neo|Workibot ofoofoo
22:46.55ACTION foofoos. <reply> foo!
22:46.58Neo|Worksee
22:46.59kergothibot: no, pester $nick is <action> $nick: Are we there yet?  .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet?
22:47.00kergoth: okay
22:47.00Neo|Worksucky
22:47.04kergothibot: pester Neo|Work
22:47.05ACTION Neo|Work: Are we there yet?  .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet?
22:47.10kergothoops
22:47.16kergothibot: no, pester $nick is <reply> $nick: Are we there yet?  .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet?
22:47.16okay, kergoth
22:47.19kergothibot: pester Neo|Work
22:47.20Neo|Work: Are we there yet?  .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet?
22:47.25kergoththere we go
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22:57.56nayrodd, i got the network card workin but cant get it with the rest of the network
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23:52.39untornkergoth: does OZ let you run security scripts like in windows when you connect via modem?
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23:55.02kergothuntorn: ?
23:55.13kergothuntorn: its a unix box, you can do whatever you like
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23:57.35untorn=)
23:57.43kergothhey raster
23:58.19rasterkergoth: moonin!
23:59.01kergothwhats goin on?
23:59.18rasterjust was playign with my new p800
23:59.22rasterinstalled an irc client
23:59.28Neo|Workp800 being?
23:59.34rasterkinda cool to be able to chat whilst walking to work.. opn my phone :)
23:59.40Neo|Workassuming it's not a Pentium XXX  800. :
23:59.47rasterNeo|Work: ericsson p800
23:59.53kergothah
23:59.56kergothhow is it?
23:59.58kergothI need a new phone
23:59.59kergothheh

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