| 00:00.20 | pcj | imma going to introduce a RFC in the forums to see if people outside of IRC actually want to leave wikia |
| 00:00.52 | Amarande | pcj: how does Ragefire Chasm figure into this? :D |
| 00:01.08 | pcj | basically we're going to stomp wikia like |
| 00:01.11 | pcj | RFC end boss |
| 00:01.20 | pcj | ofc i was going to look that up but i accidentally hit enter |
| 00:01.22 | Amarande | also, just move the wiki to dreamhost. :P 10.95 a month and I think it's unlimited bandwidth and diskspace now. |
| 00:01.34 | pcj | hmm |
| 00:01.40 | pcj | there's more than just hosting it though |
| 00:01.43 | Amarande | although I'm not sure what the database query quotas and billing are now :S |
| 00:04.36 | Eraclito | Curse is buying everything, couldn't be possible they are interested in some business with wowwiki? |
| 00:06.06 | pcj | we're chatting them up |
| 00:06.12 | pcj | for sure |
| 00:06.22 | pcj | definitely need to see if people care though |
| 00:08.56 | Eraclito | you mean if people aren't against curse or against moving away? |
| 00:10.10 | pcj | no if people will go with leaving Wikia |
| 00:10.27 | pcj | because Wikia's policy is to continue maintaining WoWWiki on their own server if we do leave |
| 00:10.32 | pcj | which means some users may stay and some may go |
| 00:10.36 | pcj | which would suck |
| 00:10.59 | Eraclito | oh i got it |
| 00:11.43 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Forum:Should_WoWWiki_leave_Wikia%3F |
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| 00:29.17 | pcj | kd3 if there is a fork do you think blizzard would recognize us or wikia as the fansite |
| 00:30.15 | kd3 | I'd have to talk to neth and a few of my other contacts about that |
| 00:30.26 | kd3 | I dunno at this point |
| 00:30.35 | pcj | also i'm pretty sure wikia thinks beta = release candidate |
| 00:30.47 | pcj | they're basically pushing it out next week |
| 00:31.30 | Ressy | uberfuzzy did say they've got a list of user suggestions they plan on implementing.. |
| 00:31.36 | pcj | yeah i bet he did |
| 00:31.43 | pcj | the terms of use still stand though |
| 00:32.01 | pcj | if wowwiki can't modify the interface for its best interests then wowwiki needs to stand apart |
| 00:32.26 | Sandwichman2448 | There are plenty of ways to be creative! While these terms will limit what you can do to the overall layout, creativity is still an essential part of Wikia. |
| 00:32.29 | Sandwichman2448 | ... |
| 00:32.37 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah. |
| 00:33.03 | Eraclito | they should become politicians :P |
| 00:34.10 | Eraclito | also, i think 'wowwiki' is great because of all the people who work on it, not as site itself |
| 00:34.27 | Sandwichman2448 | Oh? |
| 00:34.29 | Eraclito | i think blizzard will recognize you as community, not wikia |
| 00:34.42 | Sandwichman2448 | This may sunder the community in half. |
| 00:34.58 | Eraclito | there're so many people against going away? |
| 00:35.05 | Sandwichman2448 | I dunno. |
| 00:35.17 | kd3 | I suspect most of the community doesn't know yet |
| 00:35.26 | kd3 | that'll change in a week or so |
| 00:35.53 | Sandwichman2448 | May need a poll, but then you have to factor in lies, and people who did not see the poll or care to vote... |
| 00:36.09 | pcj | I don't really want to do a hard vote |
| 00:36.16 | kd3 | ^ |
| 00:36.19 | Eraclito | then SPAMSPAMSPA... i mean, add something in people talk pages |
| 00:36.22 | Sandwichman2448 | Just to see how much people care. |
| 00:36.34 | pcj | Most people don't care what server is providing their content |
| 00:36.45 | pcj | The biggest problem is when the new skin is active |
| 00:36.49 | pcj | that's when people will start to care |
| 00:36.57 | Eraclito | :P |
| 00:37.12 | pcj | We need to get moving on this to minimize the hassle :P |
| 00:37.21 | Eraclito | 'new skin' will have advertising like the skin for not registered users? |
| 00:37.44 | pcj | yes it will have advertising |
| 00:37.46 | Sandwichman2448 | DID YOU KNOW WIKIA HAS WIKIS ABOUT COOKING! |
| 00:37.52 | pcj | also ^ |
| 00:37.58 | pcj | wikia will be trying to get you to look at other wikis |
| 00:38.05 | pcj | as much as possible |
| 00:38.17 | Eraclito | when if i need another wiki i google 'something wiki' |
| 00:38.21 | pcj | also wikia will be repeated like 60 times on one page since that apparently helps SEO |
| 00:38.34 | kd3 | you saw that forum post too, eh? |
| 00:38.35 | kd3 | >.> |
| 00:38.36 | pcj | yeah |
| 00:38.51 | pcj | like maybe actually have good content then you wouldn't have to worry about SEO? |
| 00:40.34 | kd3 | in other news, 4.0.1 as early as october 12 |
| 00:40.55 | pcj | october was fairly obvious |
| 00:41.13 | Eraclito | yep, i just hope zg will stay until 4.0.3 |
| 00:41.18 | kd3 | it will |
| 00:41.33 | kd3 | the world changes happen in 4.0.3. 4.0.1 is just the mechanics (and streaming client) patch |
| 00:41.34 | pcj | just gotta keep stacking up on tomes of polymorph:turtle |
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| 00:43.30 | Amarande | kd3: streaming client ... joy |
| 00:43.45 | Ressy | Its not that bad to be honest... |
| 00:43.48 | Amarande | how much time is this going to cost everyone every time someone enters an instance for the first time? |
| 00:43.52 | Amarande | that's the main thing I wonder. :) |
| 00:43.57 | Ressy | how much time?? |
| 00:44.00 | kd3 | once, then they'll have the data from taht point on |
| 00:44.09 | Amarande | Ressy: since I presume when they first enter an instance it'll have to download the whole thing |
| 00:44.10 | kd3 | or not at all, if they stream it all before logging in |
| 00:44.28 | Ressy | Amarande: Streaming is only for users who want to log in before downloading everything. |
| 00:44.42 | Ressy | Once everything is downloaded, streaming is supposed to be off. |
| 00:46.16 | Ressy | If its not working that way, I can contact someone who talks to devs, and figure out if its a bug, or intended? |
| 00:46.50 | kd3 | they're restreaming right now just to make sure the tech's working. what I've heard off-list is that it's not supposed to stream anything else once you've got it all |
| 00:47.21 | kd3 | I expect there'll be a forum post about it saying "If you're restreaming data after today, please let us know. it's not supposed to do that" |
| 00:47.40 | Ressy | Would explain the crappy graphics, which suddenly get better. |
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| 01:34.27 | Sandwichman2448 | Heh... Gonk, raptor loa of Zandalar. |
| 01:46.36 | Eraclito | http://www.cwmbran.info/gonk%20example13.jpg |
| 01:46.56 | Eraclito | has a 'troll' feeling |
| 01:47.11 | Eraclito | maybe not so much raptor, but indeed a troll loa |
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| 02:32.09 | Sandwichman2448 | It is a funny name. |
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| 03:18.51 | lucidfox | so |
| 03:19.57 | lucidfox | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/ <-- Does this mean we have official names for patches 4.0.1 and 4.0.3 now? |
| 03:20.49 | lucidfox | oh, kd3 has already added them |
| 03:21.08 | lucidfox | "Cataclysm Systems" is such a lame name :( |
| 03:22.11 | Ressy | wonder when they'll update system reqs |
| 03:22.39 | lucidfox | speaking of which, I don't like the new water |
| 03:22.41 | lucidfox | seems... bland |
| 03:23.10 | Ressy | to something more in-line this time with the game engine. Cuz the current Recommended Pentium D dual core, hasn't cut it for wow in a long while. |
| 03:30.30 | lucidfox | How should we name the new quest chain and world event on the PTR? |
| 03:30.41 | lucidfox | [[Doomsday cult quest chain]] and [[Elemental Invasion]]? |
| 03:43.41 | Ressy | http://community.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_blog_comment:Sannse/Important_Updates_on_Wikia%E2%80%99s_New_Look/@comment-XIII-DARKNESS-20100929031159/@comment-Surgo-20100929033045&oldid=562474 |
| 03:43.57 | Ressy | User:Surgo |
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| 05:04.53 | Amarande | lucidfox: I take it Elemental Invasion is different now from the old ones in Silithus etc. |
| 05:04.58 | Amarande | and that those bosses probably are going away, too? |
| 05:08.20 | lucidfox | This one occurs in capital cities |
| 05:08.32 | lucidfox | or at least I saw it in Stormwind |
| 05:08.39 | lucidfox | Seems it's a completely new event |
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| 06:33.16 | harl | hi |
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| 12:18.49 | pcj | g0urra u have msn??? |
| 12:20.16 | g0urra | yeah??? |
| 12:20.19 | g0urra | take one guess what it is |
| 12:20.44 | pcj | gourra87@yahoo.se |
| 12:21.05 | g0urra | points at nick |
| 12:21.12 | pcj | who's nick? |
| 12:21.23 | Fisker | lol yahoo.se |
| 12:22.51 | Fisker | g0urra |
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| 13:20.40 | pcj | kd3 you have msn? |
| 13:41.59 | pcj | i wish blizzard really did get ownership of wow.com and would give it to us |
| 13:42.08 | pcj | then we could be like "wow insider got served" |
| 13:42.39 | Ressy | its aohell's property. |
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| 13:42.52 | Ressy | wow.com redirects to wow.joystiq.com now. |
| 13:42.59 | pcj | yeah because aol "has other plans" |
| 13:43.06 | pcj | some people speculated blizzard complained |
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| 13:43.40 | Ressy | It would be perfect if they'd just buy wow.com, and host the wiki. lol |
| 13:43.46 | pcj | ofc if aol goes back to the way wow.com used to be that would equally serve to suck for wowinsider |
| 13:44.24 | pcj | bbiab |
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| 15:12.04 | pcj_2 | kd3|netbook: do you have an MSN? |
| 15:12.16 | kd3|netbook | not yet, getting one right now |
| 15:12.21 | pcj_2 | ok |
| 15:12.31 | pcj_2 | g0urra and i were thinking maybe 1pm PDT |
| 15:12.57 | kd3|netbook | I'll be in class til 1345 PDT, so I'll try to chime in, but may be distracted |
| 15:13.10 | pcj_2 | we can put it off till 2 i suppose |
| 15:13.22 | pcj_2 | or w/e |
| 15:13.31 | pcj_2 | g0urra just didn't want to do it earlier |
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| 15:25.16 | Ressy | pcj, does wowwiki get ppl filing problem reports when it comes to event-specific items? *sighs* |
| 15:25.38 | pcj_2 | we get it for all sorts of stuff |
| 15:25.57 | kd3|netbook | including tech support >.< |
| 15:26.14 | Ressy | http://farmville.wikia.com/wiki/Special:ProblemReports/37427 |
| 15:26.20 | pcj_2 | "help my account got hacked here is my username and password" |
| 15:26.23 | Ressy | First the first date was incorrect. |
| 15:26.27 | Ressy | Then the second date is incorrect. |
| 15:26.37 | Ressy | doesn't get it that its a general banner. |
| 15:26.43 | Ressy | (I stole your banner template) |
| 15:26.52 | pcj_2 | reported |
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| 15:56.36 | pompy | http://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:Main doesnt seem to be showing correctly in Firefox right now |
| 15:58.01 | kd3|netbook | looks ok logged out. here |
| 15:58.06 | kd3|netbook | logs in and ponders... |
| 15:59.07 | kd3|netbook | sigh, and the first thing I see when I log in is RMT |
| 15:59.13 | pcj_2 | are you pondering what i'm pondering |
| 16:01.39 | Ressy | pompy: are you using monaco? |
| 16:05.29 | Ressy | theme designer active.. |
| 16:08.37 | Ressy | Looks like one of the defaults for the theme designer, is a wowwiki like skin |
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| 16:08.54 | pcj_2 | gosh i wonder which one wowwiki should pick |
| 16:09.04 | Ressy | lol |
| 16:09.56 | Ressy | few bugs with themedesigner. |
| 16:10.02 | Ressy | nothing thats too bad. |
| 16:11.01 | pcj_2 | lol set the skin to monobook then browse to Special:ThemeDesigner?useskin=wikia |
| 16:11.03 | pcj_2 | it looks terrible |
| 16:12.26 | pcj_2 | it looks terrible anyway |
| 16:14.04 | XSlicer | poor wiki :( |
| 16:15.33 | Ressy | customize it. |
| 16:15.34 | Ressy | *shrug* |
| 16:15.54 | Ressy | can even change the color of that ugly wikia bar up top |
| 16:15.59 | Ressy | and below |
| 16:25.15 | pompy | Ressy: yes monaco |
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| 16:27.18 | Kirkburn|away | Yup, we're working on skin issues atm |
| 16:28.02 | g0urra | Kirkburn|away: both oasis and monaco? |
| 16:28.19 | Kirkburn|away | well, yes |
| 16:28.59 | g0urra | good. the issue with oasis is that it's bad and it's making people move from wikia. |
| 16:29.21 | pcj_2 | yeah if you could fix that issue that would be great, thanks |
| 16:30.32 | Kirkburn|away | Oasis is still under heavy development (indeed one of the most recent changes was to reduce the size of the global header) |
| 16:32.16 | g0urra | and you're still posting that schedule? |
| 16:32.59 | Kirkburn|away | Schedule? |
| 16:33.29 | foxlit | Kirkburn|away: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Susan_Taylor/Experience_the_new_Wikia |
| 16:33.56 | foxlit | Hm, I thought that had dates on it |
| 16:34.07 | Ressy | other one. |
| 16:34.09 | Kirkburn|away | Not my area to answer on that anyway, unfortunately |
| 16:34.13 | Ressy | http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Sannse/Important_Updates_on_Wikia%E2%80%99s_New_Look |
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| 16:36.55 | foxlit | But anyhow, I figure we're bound to have disagreements with wikia regarding the layout just because our goals do not line up. |
| 16:41.35 | g0urra | http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Sannse/Important_Updates_on_Wikia%E2%80%99s_New_Look |
| 16:41.38 | g0urra | ah nvm |
| 16:49.01 | Kirkburn|away | (Monaco skin should be fixed now btw) |
| 16:55.09 | pompy | Kirkburn|away: it is, thanks |
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| 18:03.00 | pcj_2 | kd3 did you get an MSN set up |
| 18:03.15 | kd3|netbook | ya, I should be on as Kaydeethree@live.com |
| 18:03.44 | kd3|netbook | er, or not. grr. |
| 18:03.46 | Ressy | inc wall of invites to be a 'friend' |
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| 18:05.15 | Sky2042_afk | pcj / pcj_2: sky2042@live.com |
| 18:05.23 | pcj_2 | thanks |
| 18:06.13 | g0urra | pcj_2: haven't got an invite |
| 18:06.21 | Sky2042_afk | He hasn't invited people. |
| 18:06.22 | Sky2042_afk | :P |
| 18:06.31 | Sky2042_afk | He just didn't have my signon. |
| 18:06.39 | g0urra | herpderp |
| 18:06.51 | pcj_2 | g0urra, i added you to my contacts |
| 18:06.57 | pcj_2 | did you get the request? |
| 18:06.58 | g0urra | hmm |
| 18:07.02 | g0urra | sec |
| 18:07.07 | pcj_2 | hotmail right |
| 18:07.20 | g0urra | okay got it |
| 18:07.25 | pcj_2 | hooray |
| 18:09.21 | pcj_2 | sky2042: i told him about 4pm PDT |
| 18:09.28 | pcj_2 | err 2pm |
| 18:09.31 | pcj_2 | 4pm CDT :P |
| 18:09.41 | Sky2042_afk | 5pm est. I don't think I'll be on then. |
| 18:09.58 | kd3|netbook | could someone ping me on msn. empathy thinks I'm logged in but I'm not sure |
| 18:10.10 | pcj_2 | it says you're offline |
| 18:10.15 | kd3|netbook | grr |
| 18:10.18 | pcj_2 | that might be because you haven't accepted my request though |
| 18:12.41 | g0urra | great, I look away for a minute and the other team scores |
| 18:12.55 | kd3|netbook | that's what you get for looking away from the tv. you can't do that |
| 18:13.25 | Sky2042_afk | hahahahah, that's how it works. |
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| 18:15.57 | pcj_2 | g0urra what you need is a TV on every wall |
| 18:16.18 | Sky2042_afk | Nah, kd3's choice is definitely the preferable. |
| 18:16.21 | g0urra | kd3|netbook: I'm watching live |
| 18:16.22 | Sky2042_afk | It's a lot cheaper too. |
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| 18:18.12 | g0urra | as in I'm there in person |
| 18:18.33 | kd3|netbook | heh, well still, that's what you get for looking away from the action. how they play depends solely on you! |
| 18:18.35 | g0urra | and fyi this game doesn't air on tv:p |
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| 18:22.17 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 18:22.24 | kd3|netbook | yes, fisk-fisk? |
| 18:22.24 | Fisker | you wouldn't download a netbook |
| 18:22.36 | kd3|netbook | that'd be kinda tough |
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| 18:32.51 | Kirkburn|away | Btw, I'm using the theme builder to (re)create the wowwiki skin atm |
| 18:33.41 | kd3|netbook | no worries |
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| 18:36.50 | Ressy | I like the ThemeDesigner... |
| 18:37.12 | Ressy | Prolly cuz I'm not as smart as kd3 & pcj with css.. :P |
| 18:37.36 | kd3|netbook | meh, we had to learn too ;) |
| 18:37.39 | kd3|netbook | w3schools.com/css |
| 18:38.01 | pcj_2 | though that's not necessarily the best-written CSS |
| 18:38.06 | pcj_2 | it is a good foundation though |
| 18:38.11 | kd3|netbook | oh, Kirkburn|away; are there any wiki-visible logs of themedesigner use? |
| 18:38.27 | Kirkburn|away | Qithin the designer it has a revision log |
| 18:39.01 | Kirkburn|away | (I am unsure if it's planned for RC list too) |
| 18:39.02 | pcj_2 | whose idea was it to not give File:Wiki-background an extension? |
| 18:40.05 | Kirkburn|away | How do you mean? |
| 18:40.26 | kd3|netbook | 14:22:19 . . Kirkburn (Talk | contribs | block) uploaded "File:Wiki-background" |
| 18:41.07 | Kirkburn|away | Hmm, looks like a bug |
| 18:41.28 | Kirkburn|away | I'll report, thanks |
| 18:41.37 | kd3|netbook | ...I was about to say--pretty sure special:upload doesn't let us put files sans extensions |
| 18:41.41 | kd3|netbook | tests |
| 18:41.56 | Kirkburn|away | Yeah, since it's the theme builder, I guess it avoids that |
| 18:42.15 | pcj_2 | kirkburn, shouldn't it also protect those from being overwritten |
| 18:43.03 | Ressy | damn.. I couldn't upload our wordmark... :\ |
| 18:43.09 | Ressy | I thought it was bugged for everyone |
| 18:43.35 | pcj_2 | kirkburn is staff, thats why it works for him |
| 18:43.45 | Kirkburn|away | Passed it on |
| 18:43.48 | Ressy | AHHH |
| 18:44.17 | Ressy | I reported it via the bug thing, but couldn't figure out why it wasn't working when uberfuzzy said was working for him |
| 18:45.15 | kd3|netbook | oh, another RMT ad got through, it's pretty obnoxious, already reported |
| 18:45.50 | Kirkburn|away | thanks |
| 18:46.08 | Kirkburn|away | kd3, when you imported the css file, was it just monaco.css or common.css and monaco.css? |
| 18:46.20 | kd3|netbook | pcj did it, just monaco |
| 18:46.36 | Kirkburn|away | Okay, I'll add common.css to the top for layout stuff |
| 18:46.47 | kd3|netbook | and grr, now that I've refreshed css the sitewide nav is gigantic again |
| 18:46.51 | Fisker | Kirkburn|away |
| 18:46.55 | Fisker | i am a free man |
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| 18:48.16 | Kirkburn | jesus, this laptop is making me scream |
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| 18:50.06 | pcj_2 | kirkburn i can't believe you left the ToU breaking stuff there |
| 18:50.11 | pcj_2 | reported |
| 18:50.28 | kd3|netbook | laughs |
| 18:50.32 | kd3|netbook | he didn't, I did |
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| 18:51.13 | Kirkburn | I'm sure you'll love hearing me say this ... but it's not my area |
| 18:51.17 | pcj_2 | kirkburn: oh god lrn2@import |
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| 18:51.33 | Kirkburn | I'm getting the stuff on there, then merging it down |
| 18:51.39 | pcj_2 | i see |
| 18:52.05 | Kirkburn | Yes, I know there's repeated stuff |
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| 18:53.47 | pcj_2 | we should hide one of the lifestyle links since those are repeated |
| 18:53.58 | kd3|netbook | another quickie for ya: we've got blogs off (thank gods), the oasis blog css is still loading |
| 18:54.58 | kd3|netbook | but at least our stuff (in wikia.css) loads after the sass-generated goodies now |
| 18:54.59 | Kirkburn | As in a css file? |
| 18:55.03 | kd3|netbook | yes |
| 18:56.11 | Kirkburn | I see it, weird |
| 18:57.21 | Kirkburn | Passed on |
| 18:57.25 | kd3|netbook | ty |
| 18:59.23 | Kirkburn | Alright, mostly merged down now, better than I expected |
| 19:00.31 | Kirkburn | The "gold" colour is just what I took from the current CSS, but is probably too light now |
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| 19:03.15 | Kirkburn | Btw, I recognise the logo line is overly tall |
| 19:03.51 | Kirkburn | I believe it's because the logo space is taller than the image currently in it - if it were text, it would be shorter |
| 19:04.53 | Kirkburn | So either that may get improved our end, or it can probably be css tweaked |
| 19:05.15 | kd3|netbook | I'll redo my css tweaks; I saw it get changed in trac, but it must've been after the branch |
| 19:07.27 | Kirkburn | Branch is normally made early on Monday |
| 19:07.38 | kd3|netbook | http://trac.wikia-code.com/changeset/27490/ |
| 19:08.18 | Kirkburn | indeed, should mean it's in next week |
| 19:08.23 | kd3|netbook | is mildly curious as to the content of ticket 68689... |
| 19:08.30 | kd3|netbook | "We're wasting /how much/ space?" |
| 19:08.38 | Kirkburn | I've submitted a request that the wordmark height should be more flexible |
| 19:08.49 | Fisker | it's getting hot in here |
| 19:08.52 | Fisker | so take off all my clothes |
| 19:09.01 | kd3|netbook | turn on your webcam! |
| 19:09.14 | Fisker | i don't have one :( |
| 19:09.15 | Kirkburn | Only uberfuzzy's tickets are interesting like that, kd3 :P |
| 19:09.42 | kd3|netbook | heh |
| 19:15.44 | Kirkburn | Buttons should be a bit more golden now |
| 19:16.31 | g0urra | GOLD |
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| 19:23.38 | Ressy | Nice. You can edit those awful drop-down bars |
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| 19:32.13 | Kirkburn | Ressy, drop-down bars? |
| 19:42.25 | Ressy | oh.. those dropdown bars - wowwiki they're Top content, World of Warcraft, Interface customization & Community |
| 19:43.37 | Ressy | (sorry, dealing with a client's massive screwup of his books). |
| 19:44.13 | Kirkburn | Ah right |
| 19:52.19 | Ressy | go go backdating 5 years of stuff. :( |
| 20:03.25 | Kirkburn | Eek, sounds like a pita |
| 20:03.32 | Ressy | ya. 3 days later. |
| 20:03.49 | Ressy | all because of tax audits. client wasn't remitting. |
| 20:04.11 | Ressy | they saw irregularities in 1 tax account, so said "oh look, lets do them all" |
| 20:04.13 | Ressy | >.< |
| 20:04.21 | Ressy | got nailed to the wall. |
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| 20:08.56 | Sky2042_afk | pcj / kd3, can you guys keep a log of this upcoming MSN chat? My battery's going to die before an hour from now. |
| 20:09.05 | kd3|netbook | sure |
| 20:09.06 | Sky2042_afk | With no chance to charge it. |
| 20:09.12 | Sky2042_afk | And it's just good sense imo. |
| 20:09.43 | Sky2042_afk | Thanks, though. |
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| 20:43.15 | kd3|netbook | ok. refresh wikia.css. top nav is better, but there's still a lot of space getting wasted |
| 20:43.20 | kd3|netbook | especially with a banner ad |
| 20:43.38 | kd3|netbook | and if I could get rid of that drop shadow underneath the global nav... |
| 20:52.19 | kd3|netbook | and wtf [[Special:Random]]... [[Guide to creating a religious guild]] |
| 20:55.13 | g0urra | . _. |
| 21:02.11 | foxlit | hey, is oasis live yet? |
| 21:02.22 | foxlit | or is it still for special permissions people only? |
| 21:02.40 | kd3|netbook | unless you're looking at one of the beta wikis, you need the beta right |
| 21:08.21 | Ressy | yes |
| 21:09.10 | Ressy | sigh.. I can't wait til they fix it so normal users can upload wordmarks, instead of just the staff. :( |
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| 21:12.30 | foxlit | "wordmarks"? |
| 21:13.14 | kd3|netbook | the wowwiki logo top left |
| 21:14.36 | foxlit | ah. You could hijack that with css if you wanted to, I guess |
| 21:14.49 | kd3|netbook | like how we did before we had access to the theme editor. ;) |
| 21:20.10 | Ressy | lol.. I'll wait. :) |
| 21:28.21 | g0urra | http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/supergeeky1/MonacoClosed.png |
| 21:28.22 | g0urra | pffffft |
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| 22:01.47 | foxlit | whatever magic used to mark forum topics as read seems broken now |
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| 22:02.09 | pcj_2 | in the new skin? |
| 22:02.18 | foxlit | No, just generally |
| 22:02.26 | kd3|netbook | (seen elsewhere) http://www.bash.org/?577451 but replace sony with wikia |
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| 22:03.18 | pcj_2 | nice timing sky |
| 22:03.31 | kd3|netbook | you got it? I've gotta head to class |
| 22:03.33 | Sky2042_afk | Just ended? :3 |
| 22:03.43 | pcj_2 | yeah i'll e-mail it to you |
| 22:03.53 | Sky2042_afk | mhm |
| 22:04.03 | foxlit | is entirely out of this loop. |
| 22:04.16 | Sky2042_afk | Send it to foxlit too. |
| 22:04.17 | pcj_2 | i can copy you i guess foxlit |
| 22:04.19 | Sky2042_afk | heh |
| 22:04.55 | pcj_2 | you guys know how to handle MSN logs? |
| 22:05.11 | foxlit | plenty of fire? |
| 22:05.14 | pcj_2 | heh |
| 22:05.16 | Sky2042_afk | ^ |
| 22:05.16 | pcj_2 | they're in XML format |
| 22:05.21 | pcj_2 | i'll just send the XML and the XSL |
| 22:05.22 | Sky2042_afk | o.o |
| 22:05.28 | Sky2042_afk | w/e |
| 22:05.42 | foxlit | Out of interest, why didn't you just use an irc channel, since you're on irc? :) |
| 22:05.52 | Sky2042_afk | ^ |
| 22:05.57 | Sky2042_afk | That had crossed my mind. |
| 22:05.58 | pcj_2 | we are, they aren't |
| 22:06.52 | pcj_2 | hopefully that works |
| 22:08.47 | foxlit | Gr, two things annoy me: that the XML file has no line breaks, and that my text editor chokes on it |
| 22:09.24 | Sky2042_afk | Yeah, linebreakless ftl. |
| 22:09.30 | Sky2042_afk | I just left them in my downloads folder. |
| 22:10.18 | pcj_2 | *shrug* |
| 22:10.21 | pcj_2 | notepad++ ftw |
| 22:10.24 | Sky2042_afk | mmhmm |
| 22:11.11 | Sky2042_afk | lol, unicorn. |
| 22:12.20 | Sky2042_afk | wikis _are_ easy to maintain. |
| 22:12.42 | Sky2042_afk | You need someone to make sure the servers don't break, and a dev to install the random extension every now and then, as well as patch. |
| 22:12.48 | pcj_2 | yeap |
| 22:12.53 | Sky2042_afk | And that's it. |
| 22:12.57 | Sky2042_afk | Heh. |
| 22:15.31 | Sky2042_afk | Hahaha, kd3 and g0urra. |
| 22:15.37 | g0urra | :) |
| 22:18.14 | Sky2042_afk | Haha, worried about being sued over skins licensed CCBYSA |
| 22:18.20 | Sky2042_afk | hahahahaha. |
| 22:18.44 | pcj_2 | That's another point though - if we transfer off Wikia do we want to keep Monaco? |
| 22:18.50 | pcj_2 | imo it would just be something extra to maintain |
| 22:18.56 | Sky2042_afk | Fuck monaco. |
| 22:18.58 | Sky2042_afk | Dump that shit. |
| 22:18.59 | foxlit | imo steal vector |
| 22:19.02 | Sky2042_afk | I was think we could take Vector. |
| 22:19.07 | Sky2042_afk | thinking we could skin vector. |
| 22:19.09 | pcj_2 | Yeah vector would be sweet |
| 22:19.12 | Sky2042_afk | While using the old monobookish skin. |
| 22:20.15 | Sky2042_afk | Then keep both skins, for those people who want the old skin of course. |
| 22:20.21 | Sky2042_afk | Maybe skin Modern too. |
| 22:20.27 | pcj_2 | no i was thinking we should force vector on everyone |
| 22:20.28 | Sky2042_afk | for appropriate colors.\ |
| 22:20.30 | pcj_2 | that would be a good idea |
| 22:20.33 | Sky2042_afk | HAHAHAHA |
| 22:20.43 | foxlit | ^^ |
| 22:21.10 | Sky2042_afk | I wonder about the domain. |
| 22:21.51 | pcj_2 | we should ask blizzard what they're going to do with wow.com |
| 22:22.04 | Sky2042_afk | The wow.com they don't own...? |
| 22:22.14 | Sky2042_afk | Or did I miss something? |
| 22:22.21 | pcj_2 | the one AOL moved WoW Insider off of because "they had other plans"? |
| 22:22.30 | pcj_2 | wtf is AOL going to do with wow.com besides wow |
| 22:22.41 | pcj_2 | anyway that's the conspiracy theory |
| 22:22.46 | pcj_2 | that blizzard forced wowinsider off wow.com |
| 22:22.56 | Arrowmaster | they probably just wanted the ad impressions on joystik instead of wow.com |
| 22:22.57 | Sky2042_afk | Oh, they aren't at wow.com anymore? |
| 22:22.59 | pcj_2 | nope |
| 22:23.02 | Sky2042_afk | Huh. |
| 22:23.12 | pcj_2 | they went back to being failinsider instead of just fail |
| 22:23.20 | Sky2042_afk | Arrowmaster: Possible, but I'm definitely suspecting that they pulled a legal threat on AOL. |
| 22:23.31 | Sky2042_afk | "Wow.com" is fairly impersonatory. |
| 22:23.59 | Arrowmaster | does blizzard have a trademark on WoW? |
| 22:24.22 | pcj_2 | to the USPTO! |
| 22:24.23 | Sky2042_afk | goes to check uspto. |
| 22:24.48 | pcj_2 | well at least there aren't a lot to choose from |
| 22:25.23 | Sky2042_afk | is staring at 2700 results in http://tess2.uspto.gov/ ... |
| 22:25.30 | Sky2042_afk | Or is that 4k? |
| 22:25.35 | Sky2042_afk | I think that's 4k responses. |
| 22:26.08 | Sky2042_afk | THE FALSE POSITIVES |
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| 22:27.46 | Sky2042_afk | wb kd3 |
| 22:27.52 | Sky2042_afk | If you're back... |
| 22:28.16 | kd3|netbook | I am |
| 22:28.28 | kd3|netbook | sorry; had to cross campus from the dining hall for database |
| 22:28.32 | Sky2042_afk | mmhmm |
| 22:28.49 | Arrowmaster | 78518924 78518928 |
| 22:28.59 | Arrowmaster | trademark serial numbers |
| 22:29.11 | Arrowmaster | blizzard trademarked 'WOW' |
| 22:29.20 | Sky2042_afk | Yup. |
| 22:29.32 | Arrowmaster | so yes they can take wow.com away from aol |
| 22:30.00 | pcj_2 | did aol trademark it though? |
| 22:30.07 | pcj_2 | they might be able to show prior use |
| 22:30.08 | Arrowmaster | doubtful |
| 22:30.10 | pcj_2 | with their shitty site |
| 22:30.23 | Arrowmaster | look at the 2nd trademark number i listed |
| 22:30.53 | Arrowmaster | Goods and Services IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: ENTERTAINMENT SERVICES, NAMELY, PROVIDING ON-LINE COMPUTER AND VIDEO GAMES, TIPS AND STRATEGIES FOR COMPUTER GAMES; ARRANGING AND CONDUCTING COMPUTER GAME COMPETITIONS |
| 22:31.01 | pcj_2 | indeed |
| 22:31.45 | Sky2042_afk | I think "Providing on-line computer and video games, tips and strategies" about covers it. |
| 22:32.16 | Arrowmaster | neither one has been registered though, just published with the patent office |
| 22:32.50 | Sky2042_afk | That's enough in this day and age. |
| 22:33.04 | pcj_2 | obviously blizzard has a bit more of a stake in it |
| 22:33.13 | pcj_2 | pretty sure if it came up in court they would win |
| 22:33.27 | Sky2042_afk | And can claim that WOW is, um, much closer to what they're selling than what WoWInsider was selling. |
| 22:33.29 | Sky2042_afk | Heh. |
| 22:34.46 | Sky2042_afk | Pity about the domain, I suppose. |
| 22:34.48 | Sky2042_afk | :/ |
| 22:34.53 | Sky2042_afk | So iconic. |
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| 22:44.29 | Sky2042_afk | Too bad fr. gave up wikiwow.com to Wikia as well. |
| 22:47.42 | foxlit | noooooo |
| 22:47.46 | foxlit | uncyclopedia.org is a redirect. |
| 22:48.07 | Sky2042_afk | Yup. They moved to Wikia, actually. |
| 22:48.11 | Sky2042_afk | Way back when. |
| 22:48.20 | foxlit | I was under the impression that they kept the domain |
| 22:48.40 | kd3|netbook | uncyc didn't put up as much of a fight as we did |
| 22:49.27 | pcj_2 | considering sannse is from there im not surprised |
| 22:49.36 | Sky2042_afk | foxlit: Nope. They've been on .wikia.com for a couple years now. |
| 22:50.56 | foxlit | On the other hand, they did put up a fight about the skin |
| 22:51.07 | pcj_2 | yeah |
| 22:51.17 | pcj_2 | it makes a bit more sense i suppose though |
| 22:51.36 | Sky2042_afk | Yeah. |
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