IRC log for #wowwiki on 20100928

00:08.21CooobraOh god... I knew Horatio Laine was going to say that... /eyeroll
00:09.08CooobraAfter killing Captain Cookie - As for the kingpin's fate...  I guess that's the way...  ....the Cookie crumbles.
00:11.22Ressylol
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00:48.33Ressykiddo took my hubby's authenticator.  can't find it anyyyyyywhere.
00:53.40kd3|netbookthat's why it should be on the keychain
00:59.29Ressyyup
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01:24.27pcji can't keep my phone on the keychain :(
01:25.27AmarandeRessy: and lemme guess, your hubby is supposed to be main tanking right now and can't log on :)
01:25.42Ressynaw.  He quit wow. sc2 now.
01:26.20RessyI found the thing of course.
01:26.21Ressylol
01:26.25AmarandeCooobra, that sounds like the sort of comments James Bond makes, especially towards Q. :)
01:26.27Ressyhe 'checked' under the sofa.
01:26.35Amarandelol
01:26.39Amarandesure it was the kid and not the cat?
01:26.45Ressyno cat.
01:26.51Amarandeawww
01:26.55Amarandeeveryone should have a cat!
01:26.56Amarande:)
01:27.07Ressyhubby's got a cat allergy
01:27.08Amarandeor should be owned by a cat, anyway
01:27.12CooobraBah... cats are for kids.. I have a panther
01:27.19Amarandeum, Cooobra?
01:27.20Amarandethat's a cat.
01:27.25Amarande:)
01:27.26Cooobraa big cat
01:28.00Amarandealso: is that one named serpent in sholazar the only pink-and-purple colored one?
01:28.13Cooobrabut it's no lie either... he or she comes around occasionally to say hi
01:29.55pcjunfortunately its only when you're high
01:30.32Amarandeheh
01:35.32Cooobra=P
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05:26.46CooobraHey kd3, Ol' Beaky drop anything for you?
05:26.58kd3cookie's tenderizer
05:27.32CooobraI've killed him 3 times and nothing =( lol
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05:35.31Cooobrawhat a bad cookie pun lol
05:35.43kd3it wouldn't be laine if they didn't
05:35.58kd3I figure that's why they specifically had cookie be the last boss
05:36.30Cooobraheh... I'll have to eventually do the Westfall quests
05:36.52kd3I've got it all up on the wiki... >.>
05:37.45Cooobrabut.. but... I'd like to see stuff first hand
05:38.09CooobraYou do the quests in STV yet?
05:38.58kd3no, not yet. what I've got linked on /levels is all I've done so far
05:40.46CooobraHmm... feels a little disappointing .. and hope its cause it might not be done... but not a very satisfying ending to the ZG chain
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05:54.39CooobraBecause I did Horde side first on the Deadmines, I was slightly confused when I did Alliance side... I actually thought the automatic quest system failed, so I ran back to the quest giver for the quest... didn't realize for the Alliance their quests rely on your location inside, where horde did not
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05:55.46CooobraMaybe a questbox parameter that states how you gain the quest, when it's automatic ...
05:56.12g0urraorrrrrr
05:56.16g0urraput it in the Notes section
05:56.35CooobraYea, that could work
05:57.10g0urra== Notes == You automatically get this quest when killing [[mob]].
05:57.53CooobraHeh, those are obvious ones too, since they'll have a red ! above them
05:58.03g0urranot really
05:58.08g0urrathe eels in Kelp'thar
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06:05.14kd3I find it's about 50/50 for quest-starting mobs that have the red ! versus those that don't
06:05.22kd3anyway, gotta get up for work in a few hours, blah
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06:08.36Cooobrawell, hopefully by the time it's live.. they'll all have it... night
06:24.29Fiskerhey kd3
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16:37.09g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/File:Spell_druid_stamedingroar.png
16:37.16g0urrawhich one would you think is better?
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17:07.27XSlicerThe top g0urra
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20:05.55RessyThoughts:  http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Sannse/Important_Updates_on_Wikia%E2%80%99s_New_Look
20:06.15Ressyhttp://community.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Customization_policy
20:12.48pcj_2ugh its not ready
20:13.49RessyThey state they want a uniform feel for the wikis, but theres tons of customizations.
20:14.11RessyThe only thing I can think that falls under 'tons' is the ugly background skins, and color scheme.
20:14.51RessyThose background skins are atrocious, and make the pages take even longer to load.
20:15.30g0urrapcj_2: like Ressy said in #wikia, it seems like they used the beta to fix their bugs instead listening to other feedback
20:17.02g0urraand since they're removing monaco, they're probably going to remove monobook too
20:17.08g0urragoodbye on october 20 for me
20:18.30pcj_2you're assuming g0urra
20:18.40pcj_2why would they have just fixed monobook to remove it
20:19.09g0urrado you want to try and customize the look of wowwiki so that it would look decent on oasis?
20:19.47pcj_2no
20:20.11pcj_2lets just make the border image "oasis sucks go to special:preferences and switch to wowwiki skin" repeated over and over
20:20.18g0urraheh
20:20.42Ressylaughs
20:21.55pcj_2or we could just put some JS in the oasis skin that auto-switches for the user
20:22.02pcj_2there's no rules against that!
20:25.52g0urrano words from curse?
20:26.11Ressy^^^^
20:33.03pcj_2i'll e-mail them again
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20:41.36Fiskerg0urra
20:41.39Fiskeri am unstoppable
20:43.34Ressylawl g0urra.  Just noticed you quoted me in the blog. :)
20:43.47g0urrayeah couldn't be arsed to rephrase it
20:43.56Ressy(Yes I give permission for it, etc etc, stupid wikia IRC rules)
20:44.16Ressyunderstandable.
20:44.33RessyBut yeah, thats what its looking like each day that they can't be bothered to respond to our concerns.
20:44.48RessyI can understand they're busy quashing bugs, etc, fixing things
20:45.07Ressybut not a single response to users having issues with fixed width making the pages look tiny...
20:45.37RessyJust a "You can't remove anything from everyone, do it for yourself only" isn't really sufficient.
20:46.30RessyI will be hiding the upload buttons.
20:46.43RessyI will be hiding a ton of stuff.
20:47.13RessyI'll make sure to have backups.  If they don't like it, fine. Delete the wiki.  I'll go elsewhere.
21:05.19Ressyon another note.  pcj:  http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100928/ontario-anti-prostitution-laws-struck-down-100928/20100928/?hub=TorontoNewHome
21:11.27pcj_2nice
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22:43.47foxlit"In keeping with the goals of the new look, our Terms of Use have been updated as well. Admins will no longer be able to completely remove core features for all users by using custom CSS or JavaScript. "
22:44.43Ressyso, they'll make them protected.  Does that mean anything UNprotected is fairgame?
22:44.57Ressyie, all we can touch is color schemes, and the crap-tastic background? lawl
22:45.07Ressyso much for customization.
22:45.37foxlitRessy: it's a legal, not technical clause.
22:45.59foxlitYou'll be able to do whatever you want with css/js, they'll just deliver a swift kick to your butt if you do it to global css.
22:46.38g0urrain other words, we won't be able to increase the article width?
22:46.46foxlitNot by default.
22:46.53g0urragrrrr
22:47.01foxlitIt looks like you're welcome to do whatever in your personal css.
22:47.24g0urrayeah, but it will look crap to visitors
22:47.29foxlitYes.
22:47.35foxlitIt will look crap.
22:47.49foxlitTo be fair, with this amount of advertising, it already looks crap if you aren't logged in.
22:48.04g0urrawell as long as wikia has their twilight, muppets and glee fans it will be alright. right?
22:48.39g0urraI mean, who caaaaares if wowwiki lose visitors
22:49.24foxlitI don't.
22:49.28foxlitDo you? :)
22:50.08g0urraapart from that wikia is damaging our reputation by forcing a horrible ad-ridden skin on everyone? nope
22:50.20foxlitIt's fun how there are absolutely no positive comments on that blog entry.
22:50.24Ressyyeah
22:53.20foxlitg0urra: we already do the "hate ads?  Log in to get rid of them" spiel on most banners.
22:53.33foxlitMight modify that to "hate the layout? Click here to fix it!"
22:53.48g0urra:P
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23:16.18kd3hm...
23:16.38kd3maybe I up the priority on some of the 'wanna host a wowwiki fork?' emails I've been sending out
23:16.58kd3s/maybe I/maybe it's about time I/
23:18.20Eraclitoproblems with wikia?
23:18.42Ressykd3: uberfuzzy wants you
23:18.49Ressy"someone find kd3, ask (him? her?) about all the html validation fixes i've personally done"
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