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01:11.46blademeldwhy g0urra why?
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04:13.42Ressykd3:
04:13.47kd3ya?
04:13.54RessyHow are you adding digsites that don't have a name?
04:14.10Ressyie pretty much all of Bethmora ridge in vashj'ir is a dig site.
04:14.20Ressywestern half anywyas
04:14.31kd3western [[Bethmora Ridge]], I guess
04:14.32Dottedkd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Bethmora_Ridge
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05:02.05Sky2042He timed that interestingly.
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06:07.49Zyferus“Time is passing. Yet, for the United States of America,there will be no forgetting September the 11th. We will remember every rescuer who died in honor. We will remember every family that lives in grief. We will remember the fire and ash, the last phone calls, the funerals of the children.“
06:07.49ZyferusPresident George W. Bush, November 11, 2001
06:11.00nmsUSA will never forget, and never let the rest of the world forget either
06:11.32Zyferusnot today anyway :P
06:12.15nmsme and all my friends are celebrating it as the anniversary of the start of the downfall of the US
06:16.13LibertineLushwhere is this US zone you speak of? i see it not in eastern kingdoms or outland
06:21.02nmsit's sort of like the alliance; full of cowards, rednecks and idiots, taking up space better used for constructive development
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06:32.59LibertineLushcharges up 5pt eviscerate on em all
06:33.54HerodotusNo.
06:44.18LibertineLushneed rogue advice, for pve or pvp, but mostly pvp.  should you put 5 points into dual wield spec for a sub build?  50%+ dmg seems so huge but i see builds, sub or otherwise, without it
06:44.43LibertineLushit sounds like something all rogues should have but maybe it doesn't work out quite substantially as it sounds?
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06:54.28nmsLibertineLush: there should be some extensive theorycrafting around it on either the wiki or something like wowhead
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06:55.46LibertineLushnms: i checked the wiki list of builds.  there's samples but not one sub pvp build that appears to be the most accepted one, like there are for pve assas and combat builds
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06:55.50LibertineLushdo you mean wowhead forums?
06:56.37nmsforums, talent info and comments
06:57.14LibertineLushk.  i'll check.  didn't find anything in the official forums
07:00.45nmsbut tbh dual wield only adds 50% of your offhand weapon dmg, not 50% of your total dmg
07:01.04nmsso you end up doing 100% dmg with your offhand weapon instead of just 50%
07:02.19LibertineLushyea, but that stills sound fairly substantial to me.  but i'm new so maybe i'm just wowed by a big number
07:02.23nmsso in reality it should only be +30% white dmg, and any abilities that depend on total or offhand weapon dmg
07:03.31LibertineLushis white dmg must less important in pvp?
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07:04.04nmsabilities that do dmg based only on main hand weapon dmg and abilities that do dmg based only on combo points are not affected by dual wield talent
07:04.38nmsthis might be why it's not used in cookie cutter builds
07:05.33nmsmy brother knows this shit better than me, i'm really just speculating
07:06.21LibertineLushah ok.  so something like eviscerate, which is based on combo points, isn't affected by dual wield?
07:08.15Amarandeevery build has slight variations on it
07:08.32nmsif the tooltip doesn't mention weapon dmg, it won't be affected by weapon dmg
07:09.57nmsif 99% of the pvp builds on armory and similar lacks dual wield talent, i'd take that as a clear indication some other talent is better
07:11.06nmsit's highly unlikely you'll manage to find an optimized build that noone else has thought of :)
07:11.42LibertineLushok.  yea
07:11.45LibertineLushand much less work this way
07:12.40nmsthat's the boring thing about wow talent specs; there's no variation
07:13.21nmsthere's only one optimum build for each purpose
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16:30.18g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?diff=2380374&oldid=2380331&rcid=2387862
16:30.21g0urrawhen was this changed?
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16:32.44nmsand how does the 80-79 bracket work?
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18:21.34Dottednms typo
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18:31.36Dotteddu får ret jeg får ro
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18:32.51Fiskergodt så
18:34.12Dottedro er godt
18:37.57Fiskerhvis du gerne vil skal jeg da gerne stykke et script sammen så du ikke får fred
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19:34.42Dotted[Fisker]: hvis du gerne vil skal jeg da gerne stykke et script sammen så du ikke får fred <- jamen ignore?
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19:46.08Fiskerjeg har også adgang til VPN Dotted
19:46.19Fiskertror vist der er en 50 hosts or so på den
19:46.40Dotteddvs 50 ignores, overkommeligt
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20:01.25g0urrakd3: don't you juse love when a quest says "You will be able to choose one of these rewards: [Quest Reward Placeholder]"
20:01.32g0urras/juse/just/
20:03.47kd3ya
20:08.49HerodotusThank you, infobot.
20:12.01g0urra"Gnolls! These terrible little creatures are a blight upon any land - which is saying a lot when you consider that Hillsbrad is Forsaken territory."
20:14.10HerodotusR.I.P.
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22:34.12Osewhy has nobody been updating {{Raidprogress/WotLK}}? :(
22:34.12DottedOse meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Raidprogress/WotLK
22:46.40foxlitOse: presumably because nobody cares
22:47.10foxlitI mean, http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Raidprogress/WotLK
22:47.17foxlit"No pages link to ..." ouch.
22:54.26Osewaaaaait a minute...
22:54.36Osedidn't wowwiki have semantic forms?
22:56.44g0urrahello Ose to last week
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23:15.32Osesomeone
23:18.38Herodotus<PROTECTED>
23:18.49HerodotusApparently players will be taming the fox from Sonic the Hedgehog.
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