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| 00:26.31 | Cooobra | Oh good a patch... maybe they've fixed the worgen models by now |
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| 02:21.03 | Cooobra | worgen still not fixed =( |
| 02:21.28 | Cooobra | least the feedback is working again |
| 02:26.07 | Zeal | dammit, why tonight, why not tomorrow. :( |
| 02:27.50 | Cooobra | ... the feedback seems to still be broken... very picky on stuff it will allow you to comment on... like, right now, I can't comment on quests >< |
| 02:28.42 | kd3 | ooh |
| 02:28.49 | kd3 | in-game updates on stuff it's downloading |
| 02:29.22 | kd3 | oops. cloth specialization |
| 02:29.34 | Cooobra | thrall has a new model.. how nice |
| 02:34.48 | kd3 | gack. a lot of the zone maps are updated... and with the fog of war enabled |
| 02:34.49 | kd3 | grr |
| 02:35.02 | kd3 | but it looks like they've got most of the flightpaths marked |
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| 02:39.01 | Cooobra | ugh, damn that fog of war |
| 02:39.56 | Cooobra | well.. arcane missiles is broken now... |
| 02:41.28 | Cooobra | nvm.. seems they just don't work on training dummies |
| 02:41.42 | Zeal | :S |
| 02:42.01 | Zeal | i would cry if it was broken, as i'm doing most of my retesting on an arcane mage... |
| 02:42.08 | Cooobra | lol |
| 02:42.52 | Cooobra | Yea, I just started a new orc one and tried to do the first quest with it on the training dummy, it tried to cast, and failed each time, but it renewed the buff |
| 02:50.08 | PrimalZed | Oh, cool. I do like Thrall's new model. |
| 02:50.15 | PrimalZed | (Belated, I know) |
| 02:51.00 | PrimalZed | Since when is his hair reddish brown, though? I thought it was raven black... |
| 02:52.00 | Cooobra | also has a green beard... so maybe it's not complete |
| 02:52.47 | PrimalZed | It looks like they're trying to age him. |
| 02:53.57 | Cooobra | I like his bag... all characters should have the option of turning on the bag look |
| 02:55.26 | PrimalZed | Also: his hands have a higher polygon count and his hands and feet have more detailed textures that the standard Orc model. (I'm rather hoping they do some updates to player models.) |
| 02:55.31 | PrimalZed | And he has a ring on his right hand. |
| 02:58.42 | Cooobra | I suspect any and every new model they create will have higher details and polygon counts, just hope they go back and update the old old models |
| 02:59.34 | Amarande | ok hopefully I have several hundred gold in a few hours |
| 02:59.38 | Amarande | and can finally finish getting my 264 boots |
| 02:59.48 | Amarande | at a total cost, in fact, of about 3500g |
| 02:59.57 | Amarande | compared to 6000+ I would have had to pay on AH for a premade one |
| 03:00.03 | Cooobra | go rob a dalaran bank |
| 03:00.09 | Amarande | heh we wish |
| 03:00.27 | Amarande | eternal waters were cheap, saronites were down to about 480, I farmed the eternal fires, and now I just have to buy the titansteel and have about 100-150 for a tip |
| 03:00.37 | Amarande | titansteel's apparently down to about 80, too |
| 03:00.40 | PrimalZed | My hope, Coobra, is that they can take those updates they did anyway for the Thrall model and apply them to all orc models. |
| 03:00.49 | Amarande | AH prices for ICC craft gear are TOO DAMN HIGH |
| 03:00.52 | Cooobra | mages could honestly... just open a portal below the gold piles.... bank turns around. "Hey, didn't we have a huge pile of gold right here" |
| 03:01.09 | Amarande | seems like they run about *double* the cost of mats |
| 03:01.21 | Amarande | Cooobra: heh, you mean like the disney robin hood where he cut a hole in the bottom of the chest? |
| 03:02.11 | Cooobra | Well I did read they want to update the old models... but wanting and actually doing two separate things |
| 03:02.55 | PrimalZed | Yup. We'll see. |
| 03:05.04 | Cooobra | YES.. felstalkers drop Wolf Hair, good thing too |
| 03:05.12 | PrimalZed | Was the discusion of what type of art to use for the main character picture ever settled? I saw there was somethin about that going on. Just thought of it cuz of the new Garrosh illustration on the Kalimdor loading screen, looks pretty cool. |
| 03:05.14 | PrimalZed | Yay? |
| 03:06.24 | Cooobra | Nope... stalemate |
| 03:06.55 | PrimalZed | What are the leading contendors? |
| 03:09.17 | PrimalZed | what's this [[pl:Low Common]] tag mean on the Low Common page? |
| 03:09.18 | Dotted | PrimalZed meant: www.wowwiki.com/pl:Low_Common |
| 03:13.04 | kd3 | primal, it's an interwiki link to the pl (polish?) version of wowwiki |
| 03:13.15 | kd3 | also, alterac mountains as a zone is no more |
| 03:13.21 | kd3 | it's part of hillsbard now |
| 03:13.43 | PrimalZed | Ah, I see |
| 03:13.53 | PrimalZed | Also, I don't think anyone will mess Alterac very much. |
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| 03:14.45 | Eraclito | kd3, did you upload some new map? <.< |
| 03:15.02 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26435286279&sid=2000#7 |
| 03:15.12 | kd3 | no maps yet, still trying to finish getting them all downloaded |
| 03:15.17 | Amarande | kd3: is it much different in structure or did they just decide that having two closely related zones be considered separate zones was silly? |
| 03:15.45 | kd3 | they just changed the scale of the hilsbrad map to include alterac (my assumption at least) |
| 03:15.47 | Amarande | especially given that you tend to drift back and forth between hillsbrad and alterac ALL THE TIME while on the border |
| 03:16.06 | Amarande | and that for alliance at least, something like 95% of "hillsbrad" quests are really for Alterac |
| 03:16.27 | Eraclito | true, also was a pain running to southshore over and over |
| 03:16.34 | Eraclito | i'm happy southshore is lost |
| 03:16.41 | Cooobra | tanaris has a map now =) |
| 03:17.30 | Amarande | so are they just making the area around ZF no fly or is there going to be something for you to fly over there? |
| 03:17.47 | Amarande | also wonders how many people are going to die horribly during the early days of cata due to not knowing all the no-fly zones and going splat :) |
| 03:17.57 | kd3 | you can fly over zf unless they just changed it |
| 03:18.18 | Amarande | like are no-fly zones basically peppered all over the place so if you don't know about them beforehand you're going to get dismounted and splutted a LOT? |
| 03:18.23 | Amarande | or are they confined to a few spots only? |
| 03:18.47 | kd3 | if there are any, they need to be fixed |
| 03:18.49 | Eraclito | i've read somewhere that no-fly zones are bugs due to phasing |
| 03:19.00 | Cooobra | We'll have to check out SM again... cause since it naturally dismounts players from normal mounts it was also doing it for flying mounts |
| 03:19.02 | kd3 | word from on-high is that they shouldn't exist unless there's a specific situation, like wintergrasp |
| 03:19.03 | Eraclito | they planned to avoid flying with invisible walls |
| 03:19.07 | Eraclito | not with no-fly zones |
| 03:19.25 | Amarande | Still looks like 1000 Needles is going to be virtually dead for questing now, too, if I'm not missing something |
| 03:19.43 | Amarande | its placement does not work with its level |
| 03:20.08 | Amarande | and horde are going to have potentially severe issues around 40 getting to their next questing zones alive :| |
| 03:20.20 | Eraclito | http://www.worldofraids.com/uploads/1281751352/gallery_17713_24_1188192.jpg howling oak? i don't remember that one |
| 03:20.32 | Amarande | basically, the issue I'm seeing is: great lift is gone |
| 03:20.32 | kd3 | just got added last build |
| 03:20.36 | kd3 | it's the new worgen quarter |
| 03:20.42 | Amarande | which means, the only way to get into thousand needles practically, is via feralas |
| 03:20.48 | Amarande | but this means the only way into feralas now ... |
| 03:20.51 | kd3 | er, no |
| 03:20.52 | Amarande | is via the NW part, via Desolace |
| 03:20.56 | Amarande | which is the level 50 part |
| 03:20.58 | kd3 | there's a path through the instance |
| 03:21.13 | Eraclito | also you can jump down, i think |
| 03:21.30 | Amarande | kd3: so what's the expected horde path to reach TN/Feralas/Tanaris without having to be high enough level to survive NW Feralas? |
| 03:21.35 | Eraclito | great lift is gone but it's not GTA Vice City, you can swim :P |
| 03:21.38 | Cooobra | they intended for you to enter 1000needles via dustwallow marsh |
| 03:21.46 | kd3 | ^ |
| 03:21.47 | Amarande | ahh that makes more sense then |
| 03:22.21 | Cooobra | the path already exists in cata |
| 03:22.21 | Amarande | (and without it it would be a most severe point in favor of alliance, since alliance gets to start hinterlands at the early 40s, while that zone isn't an option for Horde really till almost 50) |
| 03:22.55 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/zones |
| 03:22.58 | Cooobra | Named boar in the Valley of trials and no quest to kill him =( |
| 03:23.09 | kd3 | going from one row of the table to the next is intended progression |
| 03:24.55 | Cooobra | I dislike the Goblin starting pet... should be monkeys |
| 03:25.10 | Eraclito | badgers |
| 03:25.41 | Cooobra | oil soaked carbou |
| 03:27.19 | Amarande | are the starting pets all ones that you can tame normally or are some of them special ones that you can never get again if you abandon them? |
| 03:27.35 | Amarande | (or ones that you might have to wait till 50s or higher to get again, then?) |
| 03:28.20 | Cooobra | well, hunters can't tame new pets till level 10 |
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| 03:28.32 | Cooobra | normally it would be something nearby |
| 03:28.38 | Eraclito | from what i've seen they seem normal pet you can tame around, the low level models |
| 03:28.53 | Cooobra | but.. goblins start in Kezan... seems to have no creatures around really... |
| 03:29.12 | Amarande | also, can I finally get a purple spider in cata, I hope? :) |
| 03:29.37 | Amarande | (mainly, there's only 2 purple spiders in the game ... the ones in stormpeaks can't be tamed at all and the ones in naxx are 81) |
| 03:29.41 | Cooobra | purple lizards maybe |
| 03:29.59 | Amarande | are naxx purple spiders tamable with proper level? |
| 03:30.05 | Eraclito | badgers! |
| 03:30.28 | Cooobra | probably not... are the naxx spiders Beasts or Undead |
| 03:30.32 | Amarande | beasts |
| 03:30.43 | Cooobra | then maybe |
| 03:30.57 | Amarande | can't currently tell, because there are no 80 or below versions of them (except the non-tamable ones in the back of the cave near the beginning of stormpeaks) |
| 03:31.13 | Amarande | dammit. want beta key. :( |
| 03:31.34 | Amarande | Stupid Battle.net thing meaning people can never again give away their beta key :( |
| 03:32.26 | Amarande | since now it just attaches straight to bnet accounts apparently and isn't a key you can give out |
| 03:32.30 | Amarande | why'd they have to do that anyway :| |
| 03:32.31 | Cooobra | looks like some icons changed in the UI.. the quest log and social it seems |
| 03:32.46 | Cooobra | to prevent what you just said =P |
| 03:32.59 | Amarande | and why wouldn't they want people to be able to give out their beta key? |
| 03:33.08 | Amarande | not everyone chosen apparently even *wants* their key, and some people got chosen twice |
| 03:33.32 | Amarande | now I have to wonder if my specs just aren't ones Blizzard really cares to get beta info on heh |
| 03:33.50 | Amarande | I imagine Vista machines with 2GB are not something they really give a damn about now, since most people went straight from XP to Seven 64-bit with 4GB+? |
| 03:33.54 | Cooobra | Well, they don't want people selling the beta key, which some have in the past |
| 03:54.28 | PrimalZed | I don' tthink the whole 'no beta keys' thing is a b.net thing. They had beta keys for SC2 beta with the current b.net system |
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| 04:19.12 | kd3 | whee |
| 04:19.14 | Cooobra | Hmm... did the default UI always have dog tags on the player's HP bar |
| 04:19.16 | kd3 | instance maps |
| 04:20.05 | PrimalZed | dog tags? |
| 04:20.12 | PrimalZed | not that i recall, but i generally use xperl |
| 04:20.34 | Cooobra | aye, same here |
| 04:20.49 | Cooobra | let me get a screenshot |
| 04:22.19 | Cooobra | http://www.wowwiki.com/File:Dog_tags.jpg |
| 04:22.42 | kd3 | that's for the paladin holy aura bit |
| 04:22.50 | kd3 | holy power* |
| 04:22.54 | Cooobra | oh |
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| 04:26.06 | kd3 | and the first writeup of tol barad anywhere that I can tell is up |
| 04:26.33 | kd3 | now if only I could extract the damn ui to get the zone maps out |
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| 04:27.27 | Cooobra | can't even get my WMV to work since we had to redownload the beta |
| 04:28.08 | PrimalZed | yeah, what kd3 said. holy power |
| 04:28.20 | PrimalZed | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/august/holypower.jpg |
| 04:29.09 | Cooobra | I like it a lot better than the DK runes |
| 04:54.04 | Cooobra | Wonder if they'll ever finish the Raccoon model and place them into the game |
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| 04:55.11 | PrimalZed | Well first they'd have to get new referene subjects, after the first ones they had busted out, hotwired Metzen's motorcycle, and rode off. |
| 04:55.20 | Cooobra | ... they could infest a whole city with them and make a quest where you have to kill a bunch of them... they could call the quest ... Raccoon City |
| 05:00.14 | Cooobra | Seeing how Nemesis has a new model, I bet Volcanoth does as well |
| 05:06.27 | Cooobra | Oh good gravy... another patch on the same day... 9.2 GB ... .. and it's not working |
| 05:08.05 | PrimalZed | another patch? |
| 05:08.52 | Cooobra | seems like it |
| 05:09.27 | Cooobra | won't like me hit Play... and it's not even attempting to download, but a new progress bar has appeared |
| 05:09.51 | PrimalZed | maybe it's just bugged and there isn't acutally anything? does it say the build number? |
| 05:12.52 | Cooobra | nope |
| 05:14.40 | Cooobra | oh well, maybe it will be solved by tomorrow, then I can check on Volcanoth and get a new screenshot |
| 05:15.07 | PrimalZed | It must be those raccoons. |
| 05:15.13 | Cooobra | I bet |
| 05:15.43 | Cooobra | shame I can't just fly there and find out.. have to make a whole new goblin... |
| 05:16.07 | PrimalZed | Oh boo hoo, you poor beta participant ;) |
| 05:16.12 | Cooobra | lol |
| 05:17.29 | Cooobra | the download is funny though... it explains what red, yellow and green mean... and color each word in doing so, but they colored yellow with orange |
| 05:18.22 | PrimalZed | Clearly you need to adjust your monitor color settings. |
| 05:18.34 | Cooobra | lies... ask kay |
| 05:18.50 | PrimalZed | You know, I heard that's why the Simpsons are yellow. They wanted to 'trick' people into adjusting the color on their TVs, or something. |
| 05:19.07 | Cooobra | well, thats just silly |
| 05:20.16 | PrimalZed | I could be wrong |
| 05:20.20 | Cooobra | rolls his eyes |
| 05:20.32 | Cooobra | it was because I had WMV open |
| 05:20.46 | PrimalZed | And that was screwing with your download? |
| 05:21.00 | Cooobra | apparently |
| 05:21.39 | PrimalZed | maybe it got the source files flagged as in use, and so the downloader couldn't mess with them |
| 05:24.15 | Cooobra | most likely, never had an issue with that before, but I guess with their new downloading system it will be like that now |
| 05:26.08 | kd3 | 450 megs to go |
| 05:26.09 | kd3 | sighs |
| 05:26.31 | PrimalZed | Well I'm out. Have fun with that |
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| 05:32.23 | Cooobra | well... they broke the Kezan map.. discovering new areas is not removing the fog |
| 05:34.49 | Amarande | Cooobra: you mean you don't use cartographer and have the whole map in view all the time? :) |
| 05:35.11 | Cooobra | HA.. not in beta |
| 05:52.50 | Cooobra | oh good... the Hot Rod has an actual horn sound, that fits the vehicle |
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| 10:55.47 | g0urra | more icons o/ |
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| 11:00.08 | Fisker | slaps g0urra around a bit with a large trout |
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| 11:38.04 | Fisker | g0urra |
| 11:38.05 | Fisker | always bet on duke |
| 12:42.02 | pcj | what happened to the skills tab |
| 12:42.56 | Fisker | i came on it |
| 12:43.03 | Fisker | it's also useless pcj |
| 12:43.32 | pcj | how do i see whether I have the 310% flying or not |
| 12:45.34 | Fisker | the spellbook when they add it there |
| 12:47.58 | pcj | http://vimeo.com/10842928 |
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| 12:48.52 | harl | hi |
| 12:49.22 | pcj | hello |
| 12:49.36 | Fisker | fuck that pcj |
| 12:50.58 | Fisker | what icons g0urra |
| 12:51.06 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoW_Icons:_Trade_Archaeology |
| 12:51.30 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:52.35 | pcj | its ok i guess |
| 12:57.32 | pcj | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-10960230 |
| 13:00.37 | Fisker | pretty old though |
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| 15:25.44 | pcj | wtf blizzard |
| 15:25.51 | pcj | naming the instance maps worldmap |
| 15:26.53 | PrimalZed | oh noes? |
| 15:27.25 | pcj | it's inconsistent with older instance maps |
| 15:27.28 | pcj | makes coding harder |
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| 15:39.53 | pcj | g0urra how do you extract the maps from cata |
| 15:40.13 | g0urra | Ladik's, BLP2PNG, Photoshop |
| 15:40.22 | g0urra | (yes I know I suck at last step) |
| 15:46.33 | Zeal | you meant the only step that isn't automated? :p |
| 15:51.33 | g0urra | yeah |
| 15:51.38 | g0urra | I should be pro like Bibi |
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| 15:59.13 | Zeal | kd3, any idea how they expect people to get to badlands without going through searing gorge and burning stepps which are higher level? :p |
| 16:00.01 | Eraclito | boat to goblin coast town |
| 16:00.35 | Eraclito | i think it's called Fuselight or something similar |
| 16:00.42 | Zeal | where does it sail from? |
| 16:00.54 | Eraclito | also, there should be breadcrumbs from eastern plaguelands and maybe cape of stranglethorn |
| 16:00.59 | g0urra | fuselight-by-the-sea |
| 16:01.03 | Eraclito | i've seen a screenshot of a eastern plaguelands quest |
| 16:01.07 | g0urra | speaking of badlands |
| 16:01.13 | g0urra | I need to check if the deathwing quest is fixed |
| 16:01.15 | Eraclito | "go to king's harbor and take the boat to fuselight" |
| 16:01.30 | Zeal | kk |
| 16:02.30 | Eraclito | g0urra, did you extract and upload the new tanaris / un'goro / silithus / loch modan / maybe something else maps too? |
| 16:02.43 | g0urra | no, I can't seem to extract them |
| 16:03.06 | Zeal | tbh, that's fail |
| 16:03.14 | Zeal | EK is suck a mess... *sigh* |
| 16:03.18 | Zeal | *such |
| 16:03.22 | g0urra | "Failed to open file in the MPQ enGB\Interface\WorldMap\Silithus\Silithus4.blp" |
| 16:03.35 | g0urra | "Begäran stöds inte" |
| 16:03.41 | g0urra | swedish, look up on google translate |
| 16:03.57 | Zeal | badlands currently set to be same level as searing gorge, so that's a whole zone wasted. would have been better at 40-45. |
| 16:04.30 | g0urra | actually, I can't extract any maps that acutally are world maps :p |
| 16:04.34 | g0urra | actually* |
| 16:05.36 | Zeal | and burning steppes matching sos... god this flow sucks |
| 16:05.49 | Eraclito | maybe world maps are moved somewhere else, and that folder has just names? |
| 16:09.21 | g0urra | no, the map files are there |
| 16:11.13 | g0urra | mmm 100 fps |
| 16:11.21 | g0urra | 110 |
| 16:11.55 | g0urra | hillsbrad still doesn't have a map |
| 16:12.26 | Eraclito | you mean the new hillsbrad+alterac? |
| 16:12.33 | Eraclito | because hillsbrad alone had a map |
| 16:12.36 | g0urra | well now neither of them has :p |
| 16:14.07 | Eraclito | http://www.wowwiki.com/File:WorldMap-Hilsbrad-cata.jpg http://www.wowwiki.com/File:WorldMap-Alterac-cata.jpg |
| 16:16.01 | g0urra | loch modan does have a map, but I can't extract it |
| 16:17.00 | g0urra | looks like they fleshed out Fuselight |
| 16:17.54 | Eraclito | fleshed out? |
| 16:18.26 | PrimalZed | so the new thrall model - it's actually labeled as thral, ya? |
| 16:18.55 | g0urra | Eraclito: more NPCs |
| 16:19.02 | Eraclito | oh nice |
| 16:19.05 | g0urra | there's also a new path up to it |
| 16:19.27 | Eraclito | but the coast one is still isolated from the mountain one. right? |
| 16:19.34 | Eraclito | *, right? |
| 16:21.45 | g0urra | yes |
| 16:23.04 | g0urra | 1 npc at fuselight-by-the-sea |
| 16:23.13 | g0urra | Eddie Flofizzle |
| 16:24.13 | g0urra | ok gonna check if the deathwing quest is fixed |
| 16:24.48 | Zeal | about cape of st,where is it breadcrumbing to when done? |
| 16:25.04 | g0urra | oh sweet, it's fixed |
| 16:25.32 | g0urra | http://db.mmo-champion.com/search/all/The_Day_that_Deathwing_Came/ |
| 16:25.37 | g0urra | "[MIN LEVEL 99]" |
| 16:25.39 | g0urra | har |
| 16:29.14 | g0urra | ok so apparently that dwarf didn't punch the guy |
| 16:29.27 | g0urra | but the "cowardly dragon" saw the gnome and hid in a cloud |
| 16:29.38 | g0urra | and so the gnome "shrank the wodl" so he could find deathwing |
| 16:29.43 | g0urra | world* |
| 16:29.43 | g0urra | http://i36.tinypic.com/27ymus4.jpg |
| 16:30.47 | g0urra | "When I find that dragon, I'm gonna throw him to Kalimdor." |
| 16:36.23 | Zeal | so after CoST, there's no where to go that makes sense, unless there's transport, fail. |
| 16:36.42 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Zealvurte/Sandbox/Zone_Flow#Beta |
| 16:36.58 | Zeal | *so unless |
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| 16:49.51 | g0urra | "Martek the Awesome" |
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| 17:44.57 | pcj | hmm was it just in the last patch that flight points were noted on the world map? |
| 17:45.24 | Fisker | no |
| 17:45.27 | Fisker | been there forever |
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| 18:50.48 | g0urra | well I managed to extract the blp of loch modan to png, but I get the message that the png image is empty |
| 18:50.56 | g0urra | same with all updated worldmaps :/ |
| 18:56.27 | pcj | yay |
| 19:34.39 | Fisker | i will fuck you up |
| 19:36.33 | pcj | thats nice fisker |
| 20:02.29 | Fisker | thanks pcj |
| 20:02.31 | Fisker | i try so hard |
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| 21:07.42 | Cooobra | Wish bliz would decide on their naming conventions... All instance maps from wrath are start with InstanceMap... now all the old world instances start with WorldMap ... =/ |
| 21:08.17 | Amarande | oh the humanity |
| 21:09.18 | Cooobra | Well, it makes it more annoying with our templates... we have {{instancemap}} setup to handle the multiple floors for instances |
| 21:10.52 | Cooobra | and thats not the name of the template... well I don't use it, no one really does anyway lol |
| 21:12.03 | Cooobra | {{Instance Map}} |
| 21:12.44 | pcj | thats not all cooobra |
| 21:12.51 | pcj | coords is set up to handle it too |
| 21:13.02 | Cooobra | aye that too |
| 21:13.18 | Cooobra | We could just make it simple I guess.. make a bunch of redirects |
| 21:54.56 | PrimalZed | you guys are supposed to be good writers. What do you call a positive result in what was otherwise an overwhelmingly negative occurance? |
| 21:55.45 | g0urra | such as? |
| 21:56.19 | PrimalZed | ah, I just came up with consolation. That'll fit. |
| 22:23.02 | Cooobra | Write well I do |
| 22:26.19 | g0urra | ok so now Archimonde's Vengeance isn't a crater anymore, but is now some ruins in a grassy area, where a baron geddon is burning the area in the middle :S |
| 22:26.27 | g0urra | http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100814222537/wowwiki/images/4/4d/Archimonde%27s-Vengeance.jpg |
| 22:27.49 | Ressy | have you completed those quests? Could be phased? |
| 22:28.12 | g0urra | no. I only accepted the quest from malfurion once you're done at the world tree |
| 22:30.09 | g0urra | this is how the valley looks like right now: http://i37.tinypic.com/2zs2szp.jpg |
| 22:34.47 | g0urra | Cooobra: planing to move all those? |
| 22:35.00 | Cooobra | Are there any friendly naga left in the old world, seems the few that existed were killed off |
| 22:36.54 | Cooobra | Was hoping to see Zalashji in the underwater zone |
| 22:38.00 | Cooobra | Tooga better be in Uldum too, Lost again of course |
| 22:38.47 | Cooobra | but this time.. we use him as a vehicle |
| 22:39.30 | Cooobra | possibly using a carrot on a stick to motivate him to move |
| 22:43.50 | PrimalZed | it'd be interesting if he increased in size, with 'seats' for everyone in the group |
| 22:52.44 | Cooobra | I can't imagine Bliz making a completely nice looking vehicle, The Hot Rod, and only have it used for a couple of levels by one race... |
| 22:53.29 | PrimalZed | is the trike confirmed the goblin mount? Looking at it, I figured it more likely to be a pre-lvl-60 engineering BoP mount, similar to the flying machine. |
| 22:53.30 | Cooobra | I could see it as another new engineering passenger mount |
| 22:53.59 | Cooobra | the trike is supposed to be their mount |
| 22:54.08 | PrimalZed | "supposed to be"? |
| 22:54.51 | Cooobra | aye... |
| 22:54.56 | PrimalZed | I just don't see how you can put multiple color schemes onto it, particularly the non-epic version. |
| 22:55.03 | PrimalZed | Who says it's supposed to be the goblin mount? |
| 22:55.09 | Cooobra | no different than the mechstrider |
| 22:56.01 | Cooobra | but you're right.. needs more weapon attachments |
| 22:56.13 | PrimalZed | Sure it is. The mechano strider clearly has colors painted onto it. This non epic trike is just wood. |
| 22:56.54 | Cooobra | unpainted wood (thats 1), redwood (2), greenwood (3) =P |
| 22:57.16 | PrimalZed | The raccoon tail on the epic version also makes me think of the hula girl you have to get when upgrading to the epic flying machine. |
| 22:58.25 | PrimalZed | I could be wrong, of course. The basic setup just strongly reminds me of the engineering flying machine. |
| 22:58.39 | PrimalZed | And so far as I know, the idea that it's the goblin racial mount is just a guess. |
| 22:59.04 | Cooobra | just seems silly to do a new engineering mount after having done the hogs |
| 22:59.25 | PrimalZed | that's why I said pre-lvl 60. Also, you surely recall that a lot of people were upset that the hogs could be used by non-engineers. |
| 22:59.49 | Cooobra | gave them something to sell at elast |
| 23:00.32 | PrimalZed | They're redoing low-level stuff, right? Trying to instill a sense of "this is what I am" into players before they're higher level. Giving engineers a ground mount at that level range fits that philosophy perfectly. |
| 23:00.55 | Cooobra | Hmm... maybe |
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| 23:03.09 | Cooobra | oh... Serpent Spread, I like it |
| 23:03.37 | Cooobra | Now I can break CC and prevent it from being CCed at the same time |
| 23:03.38 | PrimalZed | Maybe it's just wishful thinking to allow the goblins to still have the car. But the trike being a low-level engineering mount does make about as much sense as it being the goblin racial mount. |
| 23:04.18 | PrimalZed | Except that, I suppose, we're guaranteed that goblins will have a racial mount, whereas the existence of a low-level engineering mount is conjecture. |
| 23:04.57 | Cooobra | I would love the car to be the goblin mount, I just don't see them giving goblins a multi-passenger vehicle, that would not allow for more passengers |
| 23:06.10 | PrimalZed | is it a multi passenger thing? |
| 23:06.53 | Cooobra | has a huge backseat |
| 23:07.07 | Cooobra | used during the goblin starting quests |
| 23:07.40 | Cooobra | Gallywix took it from you, when you leave the island |
| 23:07.40 | PrimalZed | hm |
| 23:11.24 | PrimalZed | the car does seem to share a lot of attributes with the trike. the seat covers, wheels, rocket-engine. And the raccoon tail, of course. Don't know what we can induce from that observation, though. |
| 23:13.07 | Amarande | I deleted my engineer today, anyway |
| 23:13.15 | Amarande | decided to pare my characters down to just my 70+ and my bankalt |
| 23:13.55 | Amarande | I still have the most important profs anyway now though ... priest is tailoring/enchanting, warlock is mining/JC and DK is herbs/skinning |
| 23:14.08 | Amarande | and enchanting and JC are by far the most important in the game |
| 23:14.28 | Cooobra | no scribe? |
| 23:14.57 | Amarande | never got very far on a scribe anyway |
| 23:15.11 | Amarande | that was my rogue, only made it to level 21 |
| 23:15.37 | Amarande | only scribe character I've really made much progress on is Variandra, my Alliance mage on Silvermoon |
| 23:15.41 | Cooobra | guess it won't really matter.. will only have to buy the glyph once in your toons lifetime now |
| 23:15.50 | Amarande | who's level 34 and has expert inscription if I recall |
| 23:15.57 | Amarande | (I didn't delete off-Turalyon characters, just the low levels on Turalyon) |
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| 23:16.37 | Cooobra | can't recall.. what do scribes get that is completely special to just them |
| 23:17.09 | Amarande | Cooobra: mainly they get shoulder enchants without needing hodir, and that are far better than the hodir ones anyway |
| 23:17.23 | Amarande | which is the main reason I rolled scribe over there, so I wouldn't have to waste time on hodir on a new server |
| 23:17.45 | Cooobra | ah... they need better stuff |
| 23:17.52 | Cooobra | like a moun t |
| 23:17.53 | Amarande | yeah, they haven't gotten much love |
| 23:17.59 | Amarande | even less so than JCs |
| 23:18.23 | Amarande | JCs haven't gotten any love since 2.1 ... but I don't think scribes have gotten any at all with any of the content patches |
| 23:18.31 | Cooobra | and they use our all achemist herbs |
| 23:19.35 | Cooobra | Shame we'll never see woodworking.. I think they could have done very unique things with that |
| 23:20.32 | Cooobra | Like... a table you could place down with a short cd, so you're not constantly placing the Fish Feast on the floor |
| 23:21.01 | Cooobra | I end up always placing my fish feasts on the wall |
| 23:21.33 | Cooobra | I'm sorry about I'm not eating a fish that a boomkin has sat on |
| 23:22.22 | Amarande | am I the only one who still brings buff food to raids instead of mooching off people's fish feasts? |
| 23:22.45 | PrimalZed | I used to, but since there's always fish feasts dropped every five minutes anyway, I don't bother anymore. |
| 23:22.55 | Amarande | I guess it comes from "growing up" WoW-wise in the BC days |
| 23:23.05 | Amarande | where you brought consumables all the time OR ELSE |
| 23:24.51 | Cooobra | I still have them in my bags, cause yea I know what you mean... but yea.. someone always drops feast right before a boss everytime, so I've had that same stack of food in my bags for over a year now.. its growing mold |
| 23:41.39 | pcj | i still have fresh gingerbread cookies |
