IRC log for #wowwiki on 20100807

00:00.19g0urraNO
00:00.22g0urraTHEY ARE KILLING TIMMY
00:00.23pcj:'(
00:00.27g0urraBASTARDS
00:00.37g0urradon't worry he's still alive
00:00.52pcjgood, there's still time
00:00.53g0urraand holy shit
00:00.59g0urraLightforge Gauntlets has proper stats
00:01.03g0urra14 str
00:01.04g0urra9 sta
00:01.05pcjdun dun DUN
00:01.05g0urra14 hit
00:01.18pcjthe question is...can it be reforged to have shit stats again?
00:01.22Sky2042lol
00:01.25g0urraRelighforged
00:01.27g0urradurrrrrr
00:01.31g0urralightforged*
00:01.41g0urraalso, level 54 boe in a level 46 instance? fail
00:02.14g0urraalso, huge wall of text after killing balnazzar
00:02.15Sky2042\o/
00:03.50g0urra"Defeating a dreadlord in the mortal plane only sends it back to the Twisting Nether. He will be back one day, perhaps even working again with his brothers, Varimathas and Detheroc."
00:03.50g0urraoh shi-
00:04.19Sky2042g0urra: Old news.
00:06.21g0urrano u
00:06.48g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Dreadlord_Balnazzar
00:08.09g0urraalso probably old that you can exit through the main gate now
00:08.41Sky2042No, no, that's actually new.
00:08.45Sky2042Fail, though, imo.
00:08.50g0urrawhy?
00:08.54Sky2042No one should be allowed to exit that instance the main way.
00:09.12g0urraCrusade Commander Eligor Dawnbringer says:  That is where you come in, heroes. [...] Leave this area and travel east to the Eastwall Gate.
00:09.56g0urraSky2042: why not? the scarlet crusade has seized control over that part of stratholme
00:10.10Sky2042Why would they unbar the gates?
00:10.13Sky2042Anyway, going afk.
00:29.01Amarandeso people who wander in by mistake don't have to potentially wait up to a half hour to get out?
00:29.21Amarandeor have to take a spirit rez?
00:29.29Amarande(remember, dying won't help you normally, since you have to go back into the instance to get your corpse & then you're stuck again)
00:30.06Sky2042_afkAmarande: Neat trick, but you can res at the other gate. :P
00:30.31Sky2042_afkAlso, I'm a mage. Whichever group I end up in, it's PORTAL TIME BABY.
00:31.06pcjnot every group has a mage
00:31.10pcjbring the player not the class
00:31.25Sky2042_afkpcj: Did I say that every group should have a mage? No.
00:31.27pcj2) some newbs don't know about the service entrance
00:31.33Sky2042_afk(I almost did, though.)
00:31.44Sky2042_afkYeah, well, they need to l2p. Duh.
00:33.14g0urratime for killing, part 2
00:35.16Sky2042_afkI really hate the Blizzard downloader.
00:35.26pcjok
00:36.04Amarandepcj: you can go in the service entrance to rez?
00:36.10Amarandewell that doesn't really help though
00:36.15pcjyes they're the same instance
00:36.18pcjwhy doesn't it help
00:36.18Amarandeyou go in, rez, try to come out and if you don't have the key to the city you can't get back out
00:36.24pcjyes you can
00:36.28pcjtheres a lever on the inside
00:36.35Sky2042_afksnickers at Amarande.
00:37.24pcji wish you could fly into scholomance :(
00:43.06g0urrahi Ramstein
00:43.09g0urralovely as usual
00:43.27pcjhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay-Ivhe7HBQ
00:43.28Sky2042_afkI hate Windows Firewall, so much.
00:43.50pcjwhy
00:44.03g0urra..fuck
00:44.12Sky2042_afkBecause every computer I've ever had it on where I've tried to configure Blizz's downloader to work properly still fails.
00:44.18Sky2042_afk:|
00:44.45g0urraI ran into the gate where the mini skellis come from
00:44.50g0urraand then the gate closed
00:44.51g0urra._.
00:44.56Sky2042_afklololololol
00:45.08Sky2042_afk<3 that gate. So chaotic. And the risk of adds...
00:45.10g0urranow I have to get aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall the way back to strath
00:47.09Sky2042_afkHave fun running.
00:47.18kd3har
00:47.27kd3[[The Condensation of Electra-Atrocity]]
00:47.28Dottedkd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/The_Condensation_of_Electra-Atrocity
00:48.27g0urra"by what I can only describe as a kiss from the Gods. "
00:48.28g0urrakinky
00:50.01g0urramount in strath + invis = <3
00:50.54g0urralet's seeee who Aurius is
00:51.28Sky2042_afkDO NOT ATTEMPT TO DRINK THE JUICE
00:52.51g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/File:Lord_Aurius_Rivendare.jpg
00:53.02g0urranow let's get this over with
00:53.29foxlitMore importantly, does he drop a horse?
00:53.41foxlitYou must dedicate your time to resolving this important question.
00:53.47g0urrahe dropped a pony
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00:55.06g0urrait was called Ghost Crawley
00:55.10pcjok
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01:11.12g0urrahax, they landed with hippogryphs in strath
01:11.28Alramhow
01:11.41g0urralike I said, hax
01:11.54Alramwhat hax
01:12.01g0urraargent crusade
01:12.16Alramomg
01:12.18Alramhax
01:14.27g0urrabtw, now you can only enter undead side through the back gate
01:14.28g0urra=3
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01:22.41Amarandeg0urra: what, strath is two separate instances now?
01:23.27g0urrawell I think it's one and the same
01:23.32g0urrabut you can only access one at a time
01:28.34Amarandethat's silly
01:29.08pcjWHY WOULD THEY CHANGE THAT
01:30.02pcjg0urra is piccolo still dropping
01:30.26g0urraidk didn't check
01:30.30pcjwtf
01:30.35g0urraI need to know first where the fuck nathanos went
01:30.37pcjare the mailboxes still there
01:30.40g0urrayes
01:31.08g0urraI mean shit
01:31.11g0urranathanos isn't there
01:31.29g0urrahostile level 40 plague wolf thingies are there instead
01:31.54g0urraanyway
01:31.55g0urrastrath
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01:35.36g0urraheartsinger forresten is still there
01:36.31g0urraRainbow Girdle
01:36.32g0urrafff
01:38.38Eraclitoare pulls still crazy placed?
01:38.56Eraclitolike... mobs everywhere without any reason
01:39.02g0urrayes
01:39.08Eraclito:< so sad
01:39.13pcji bet they changed it so you can't farm piccolo
01:39.15Eraclitoi hoped for a better pulls placement
01:39.18pcjas easily
01:39.37Eraclitoalso... where's the closed gate between the two sides?
01:40.01Eraclitois where the key is actually used or under the 'bridge' closed in culling of strat?
01:40.41g0urrayou know the place where the chapel is?
01:40.50g0urraright at the service gate?
01:42.01g0urrawhere there's 2 gates from the room
01:42.13g0urra1 to baron, 1 to live
01:42.15Eraclitoyes i know
01:42.19g0urrathe live gate is completely closed off
01:42.23Eraclitoalso i know exactly every single pull of undead side
01:42.33Eraclitook, got it
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01:42.45Eraclitoso it's closed exactly where is closed the road in culling instance
01:42.45AmarandeEraclito: you mean "every monster I generally bypass when I do a run with my DK?" :)
01:42.59Eraclitonope, every monster i actually pulled on my 53 runs on my mage
01:43.04Eraclitoat the time i was naxx10 geared
01:43.18Amarandeahh ... I'm in mostly 232, which is ... hmm, which instance was 232?
01:43.22AmarandeToC10?
01:43.27Eraclitoyes
01:43.43Amarandeand DKs tear through places like strath and scholo like butter
01:43.48Eraclitomages dont
01:43.59Eraclitoif you aggro the spiders, you were pretty dead
01:44.02AmarandeI actually was doing things like pulling all the skeletons in the vault of the ravenian and fighting everything in the lorekeeper room in scholo at once
01:44.05Eraclitothey put on you that nice silence buff
01:44.11Amarandeyeah, I hate those spiders on the DK, too
01:44.30Amarandeusually because the mobs I want to kill are out of melee and I can't move :P
01:45.04g0urrastill no piccolo
01:45.19Eraclitoi had to kill him like 8 times on my mage, back in time when i farmed the mount
01:45.26Eraclitoon my paladin dropped on first kill
01:45.33Eraclitoi wasn't even doing it for the piccolo
01:45.47Eraclitoi was in strat to farm a damn pristine black diamond
01:46.03Eraclitothe trick is: kill everything, don't care to loot, just roam around and kill things
01:46.15Eraclitoblue and epic things will stay even when normal corpse have despawned
01:50.30g0urrak which instance should I check now
01:51.58AmarandeI got the piccolo my first what's-his-name kill on my DK
01:52.13AmarandeI was actually out there to see if I was going to manage the 10,000 to 1 shot
01:52.17Amarande(and no, I didn't. LOL)
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01:53.05g0urraEraclito
01:59.00Eraclitouhm :>
01:59.47Eraclitodid you already go in the wailing caverns?
02:00.04g0urrayes
02:00.11g0urraand I could fly in there
02:00.12g0urra¯\(º_o)/¯
02:01.28Eraclitofly?
02:01.40g0urrayes, use my flying mount and fly around in the instance
02:02.48Eraclitowell i know the instance is pretty bad to run by ground mount, but allowing to fly seems weird... :P
02:03.20Eraclitoi saw some of the gnomeregan changes, like the G-Team one
02:03.36g0urrawell, I could check gnomer
02:04.04Eraclitolet's go for gnomer :P so you can tell me if the tunnel to entrance is changed too
02:04.15Eraclitoi saw a small coverage of lv1-2 for gnomes
02:04.27Eraclitobut the video didn't show that tunnel
02:04.51g0urraI was flying there earlier and some pesky little gnomes were shooting me
02:04.58g0urradidn't see if they were leper or not
02:05.07g0urradun care, a gnome is a gnome and made for punting
02:05.28Eraclitopoor sweet little gnomes /hug
02:05.58g0urrawell there seem to be these level 5 elite Gnomeregan Recruits fighting against Living Contamination
02:06.06g0urrathat are level 2 non-elite. lawl
02:06.09g0urrastupid gnomes
02:06.19g0urraanyway gnomer
02:06.29g0urraoh yeah
02:06.38g0urralevel 80 elite gnomes with 315k hp
02:08.08g0urrak I'm in
02:08.37g0urraFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
02:08.49g0urra"You have enetered too many instances recently."
02:08.54g0urraseriously blizzard
02:08.55g0urrait's dumb
02:09.05Eraclitoyeah
02:09.25Eraclitolike stockade having poor loot just because "you might want to farm it many times a day"
02:09.52Eraclitoi've ran stockade recently
02:10.01Eraclitoonly like... two bosses on four have any loot
02:15.30g0urrawoo gnomeregan.
02:15.54g0urranothing really changed
02:16.54g0urrawhat should've changed?
02:18.14pcjneeds fewer gnomes
02:18.32Amarandeeverything's worse with gnomes
02:19.08Amarandeso what's the Durotar questing scene around level 10 going to be like with Zalazane gone?
02:20.08g0urradunno
02:20.09g0urranight
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02:58.30Camiciocant you avoid showing the You are now leaving Wikia. page to people running adblock?
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03:01.23Chikubigenerally the you are now leaving pages are meant as an informative intervention rather than for annoyance
03:02.03Chikubiit's so that you dont accidentally click on a fake link that sends you to a website with a trojan loader
03:02.19Chikubior similar
03:03.15Camiciowikipedia.com doesn't do it
03:04.00pcjit's called an interstitial
03:04.05pcjits made to serve one last ad
03:04.11pcjif you are logged in you don't see it
03:04.46Chikubijust another reason to reg, eh? :)
03:05.02Chikubipcj, do you know the procedure for getting a cloak?
03:06.07Amarandeshould be on the freenode site, Chikubi
03:06.10pcjyhttp://community.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Wikia_IRC_channel_cloaks
03:06.12pcjhttp://community.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Wikia_IRC_channel_cloaks
03:06.35Camiciowhich is why the page is pointless if someone runs adblock
03:06.50pcjthey're not going to recode the page because you use adblock
03:06.53pcjjust log in and you won't see it
03:08.48Chikubiwe've just met and im already indebted to you pcj :)
03:10.14pcjnp
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03:44.51Chikubipcj you still on?
03:44.58pcjyes
03:45.07Chikubiis grouping a second nick essential for cloak registration?
03:45.27pcjdon't think so
03:45.46pcjthats just showing you how so you don't waste their time with multiple registrations
03:46.10Chikubiuhum...
03:46.48Chikubiand then i just sign off on the irc cloak request page and bugger off to bed?
03:48.09pcjif sannse or uberfuzzy aren't on
03:48.17pcjwhich they aren't
03:48.21Chikubisannse is on
03:48.30Chikubiat least online..
03:49.05pcjwell see if she can help you
03:49.11pcjyou'll also need freenode staff
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03:49.20pcjso it would probably be easier tomorrow
03:51.08Chikubiuh...
03:51.20Chikubijust looked at your wowwiki profile..
03:51.28Chikubijust under 50k edits?!
03:52.20pcjso?
03:53.05pcjooh 801 to go
03:53.42pcj901*
03:53.44pcjtired
03:54.13Chikubikudos on the dedication (im sure praise from an anon is highly rated..)
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03:55.04pcjyes i will lord it over the other admins
04:13.21Dottedyou suck pcj
04:13.35Dottedbalance has been restored
04:15.28Chikubinot yet, im still here emanating awe
04:16.34Chikubiyou get some awe too, Dotted :P
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08:39.16squii dont quite understand the Anticipation talent
08:39.21squiit adds 96% dodge!?
08:39.54squior it increases the current value of x% to 1.96 * x%?
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10:27.16g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Uldum#Alright_to_open.3F
11:05.27Dottedno g0urra
11:05.33g0urrayes Dotted
11:05.37Dottedno g0urra
11:05.40g0urrayes Dotted
11:05.42Dottedno g0urra
11:05.44g0urrayes Dotted
11:05.46Dottedno g0urra
11:05.46g0urrayes Dotted
11:05.48Dottedno g0urra
11:05.49g0urrayes Dotted
11:05.50Dottedno g0urra
11:05.51g0urrayes Dotted
11:05.52Dottedno g0urra
11:06.10g0urrayes Dotted
11:06.12Dottedno g0urra
11:06.12g0urrayes Dotted
11:06.15Dottedno g0urra
11:06.15g0urrayes Dotted
11:06.18Dottedno g0urra
11:06.19g0urrayes Dotted
11:07.11Fiskerno g0urra
11:07.13Dottedno g0urra
11:07.14g0urrayes Dotted
11:07.15Dottedno g0urra
11:07.16Fiskerno g0urra
11:07.20g0urrayes Fisker and Dotted
11:07.22Fiskerno g0urra
11:07.24Dottedno g0urra
11:07.25g0urrayes Fisker and Dotted
11:07.34Dottedno g0urra
11:10.17Dottedwell that was informative
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14:15.11fitterShould I get Carbonite?
14:15.34fitterI use Curse now :-'
14:16.01g0urrawhat's Carbonite
14:16.19fittercollection of addons i guess
14:16.25Ressyits a single addon
14:16.27fitterone of my level 80 friends told me to get it
14:16.30Ressyits nice.
14:16.37fitterdo a lot of people use it?
14:16.38g0urrawhat does it do
14:16.41Ressybut its spammy on default settings
14:16.46Ressyits like QuestHelper.
14:16.53Ressybut better
14:17.16Ressyyou can see where your guildies are if they have it installed too
14:17.32g0urraI thought the in-game quest helper was enough
14:17.36Ressynotificatioins if they lvl..
14:17.48Ressyit was created before that gour
14:18.10g0urraso..what makes people keep using it
14:18.25fitterdo you guys use spartan ui?
14:18.34g0urraI use a custom ui
14:18.36Ressyit replaces a bunch of other stuff
14:18.42g0urralike what
14:19.32Ressychanges the quest objectives frame - smaller text, can display more than 5 objectives
14:19.45Ressycan track more than 1 achievement progress
14:20.56g0urrawell, I don't see any use for that, but others probably do =3
14:21.15Ressyits better with maps than the default
14:21.56Ressyinstead of having to right-click and then search for the zone beside you, you can just drag your mouse, and it'll open the next map.
14:22.23Ressyalso has a built-in gatherer.
14:22.37g0urraand how much memory does it take?
14:22.38fitterso you would recommend it?
14:23.30Ressyfitter: Its nice.  I do tend to turn off the communication however, as that section does tend to be too spammy for my liking.
14:23.44RessyMemory isn't too bad.  I think last I saw was 15mb?
14:23.57Ressyor.. wait. 8mb maybe
14:24.20g0urrahum, lots
14:24.30RessyAuctioneer is like 80mb
14:24.34g0urraI don't use it
14:24.35g0urra>;3
14:24.37g0urra>:3*
14:24.50g0urraI prefer my UI simple
14:24.55Ressyneither do I - beecause its too much
14:25.07g0urraI use GatherMate and Routes
14:25.08Ressybah. logging into live to check memory usage.
14:25.09g0urralove it
14:25.34Ressygatherer works with gatherer tho
14:25.42Ressybah
14:25.53RessyThe gatherer section of carbonite works with gatherer.
14:26.45Ressycarbonite: 9mb
14:26.57Ressynot that bad.  I use about 50mb of addons
14:27.21g0urraso Uldum can be entered now
14:27.26g0urrathrough the normal way
14:27.35pcjold
14:27.37Ressynice
14:28.15g0urrasome people doesn't know pcj
14:30.50pcjthats ok
14:30.58g0urrait sure is
14:31.09RessyI haven't been out there yet, so thank you. :)
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14:55.45fitteroh damnit
14:55.56fitteri didnt know there was a penalty for leaving a dungeon if a newb aggros 500000 mobs :-(
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18:27.29squithis is odd
18:27.43squinot even wowhead seems to have the new $<something> variables
18:27.54squilike $<mult> or $<damage> $<healing> etc
19:31.22Gnarfozexample?
19:33.12squiok lets see
19:34.39squihttp://www.wowhead.com/spell=10
19:34.44squiDesc: Ice shards pelt the target area doing ${$42208m1*8*$<mult>} Frost damage over $10d.
19:34.54squi$<mult> and $<bonus> i've seen most often
19:38.10RessyPossibly has something to do with mastery?
19:39.36squilike?
19:42.20Ressywell, based on mastery, damage would increase.  Would make it easier to use an internal variable to multiply dmg if you have that mastery.
19:42.51Ressyplus it pisses off peolple trying to datamine. :)
19:45.14Ressyusing the internal variable would make it so you could use the same numbers over & over, without the additional work.
19:45.46squithey always did that, but usually values are per effect
19:46.04squiso they used $s1 and $m1 for effect values, after modifiers
19:47.48squiand they still do
19:47.55squiin fact its right there
19:48.10squimult must be some kind of new modifier
19:49.37Ressylevel maybe?
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19:52.48squithat does work for a lot of spells until lightwell
19:53.10squithe lightwell heal spell has no points per level
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23:47.03Gnarfoz<squi>  Desc: Ice shards pelt the target area doing ${$42208m1*8*$<mult>} Frost damage over $10d. <-- it's showing correctly for me?
23:47.13Gnarfozoh, he's long gone

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