| 00:00.26 | Zeal | http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/main.html ? |
| 00:00.53 | Zeal | http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html probably better :x |
| 00:00.57 | Zeal | what i use |
| 00:01.04 | Zeal | and most people afaik. |
| 00:01.48 | Zeal | wow, my version is so old :o |
| 00:02.05 | Zeal | and yet it works fine |
| 00:03.07 | g0urra | hrrr |
| 00:03.11 | g0urra | why does it extract in blp shit |
| 00:04.11 | Zeal | cos that's what they are. use a converter, typically blp -> png/tga |
| 00:04.42 | g0urra | MpqViewer always extracted into png. |
| 00:05.00 | Zeal | then you were spoilt :p |
| 00:05.30 | Adys | zezula's mpqedit is awesome |
| 00:05.50 | Adys | and having mpq editors auto convert blp is bad |
| 00:06.01 | *** join/#wowwiki Ressy (~valwws@CPE002129d9fabf-CM0014e88eec26.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 00:06.17 | Adys | it's like an unzip tool automatically converting your .avi into .mov |
| 00:06.24 | pcj | zeal why didn't you create those pages in the user namespace |
| 00:06.33 | Zeal | read up pcj |
| 00:06.43 | pcj | oh |
| 00:06.46 | pcj | are you done with them |
| 00:06.46 | Zeal | it's not enabled in userspace, kd3 told me to. |
| 00:07.06 | Zeal | well i was wondering if someone fould find fault in what i wrote |
| 00:07.10 | Zeal | *could |
| 00:07.17 | Sky2042 | Zeal: Why don't you make a new section on [[test]] and use that? |
| 00:07.22 | pcj | what are you testing zeal |
| 00:07.52 | Zeal | because i had no idea [[test]] existed, and i needed multiple pages, and i already had the pages in my userspace. |
| 00:08.32 | pcj | zeal i could tell you if you didn't have unclearly named parameters that looped into each other |
| 00:08.36 | Zeal | was trying to see if SMW could remove the need for mode/arg type usage, by having a nested template define a property, and the parent template display it. |
| 00:09.08 | Sky2042 | Zeal: See {{item/dev}} |
| 00:09.11 | Sky2042 | It can do exactly that. |
| 00:09.19 | Zeal | not the same thing sky |
| 00:09.25 | Sky2042 | How not? |
| 00:09.26 | pcj | just use the variables extension |
| 00:09.38 | Sky2042 | Oh |
| 00:09.50 | pcj | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VariablesExtension |
| 00:09.51 | pcj | have fun |
| 00:11.20 | Sky2042 | Wait, okay, still not seeing how that's not the same thing. item/dev removes mode/arg exactly. |
| 00:11.34 | Zeal | sky, where are you defining the arguments you're using? |
| 00:11.47 | Sky2042 | defining which arguments? |
| 00:12.10 | pcj | it doesn't remove all uses of mode/arg |
| 00:12.17 | pcj | it just removes the main use |
| 00:12.23 | Zeal | actually, nevermind, i see what you're doing. you're simply getting the properties from the page itself, and that's why it's different to what i was trying to do. |
| 00:12.36 | Sky2042 | pcj: Where else is mode/arg used? |
| 00:12.46 | Sky2042 | is ready with the pitchfork and power of SMW. |
| 00:13.08 | pcj | itembox |
| 00:13.13 | g0urra | raises an eyebrow at "INV_Helmet_Robe_Common_C_01.png" |
| 00:13.37 | Zeal | which is have a nested template define them, but template/page use them. atm it seems #show isn't happy doing that, as despite them being present, they don't seem to be considered to exist during the template inclusion or w/e |
| 00:14.31 | Sky2042 | pcj: Itembox won't be hard to remove, seeing as cost isn't passed to the template. |
| 00:14.44 | g0urra | itembox ;-; |
| 00:14.55 | g0urra | nuuuu |
| 00:15.02 | Sky2042 | g0urra: Let me rephrase: Refactor to use SMW rather than transclusion. |
| 00:15.07 | pcj | {{costitem}} |
| 00:15.28 | Sky2042 | So remove the icon. |
| 00:15.36 | Sky2042 | And do what I was talking about earlier. |
| 00:15.57 | Sky2042 | Defining CoH to be a unit. |
| 00:16.04 | Sky2042 | Or others. |
| 00:16.42 | g0urra | it will be fun seeing item qualities be automatically shown if {{item}} isn't going to use transclusions |
| 00:16.50 | g0urra | or w/e you have in mind |
| 00:16.50 | Zeal | pcj, from a quick read of that extension, it doesn't really seem relevent. it defines and checks variables within pages, where as this is about setting conditions based on arguments to a template. wouldn't be enough to achieve the effect, especially with actually having a property set being desriable other a variable. |
| 00:17.05 | Sky2042 | You can also think about injecting the image with Javascript, or even CSS. |
| 00:17.06 | Zeal | *setting properties |
| 00:17.11 | Sky2042 | Probably JavaScript. |
| 00:18.13 | pcj | why |
| 00:18.16 | pcj | just use wiki code |
| 00:18.33 | Zeal | anyway, the test cases where there to see if SMW could solve a proposed type of usage, and it seems it can't. unless someone thinks they can solve that, then i'm done and you can delete it. |
| 00:19.00 | pcj | i have no idea what you're proposing because you used badly named parameters |
| 00:19.03 | Zeal | though a little less jumping on me as if i needed to defend my actions please :p |
| 00:19.08 | Zeal | ... |
| 00:19.12 | Sky2042 | Because we shouldn't a) have that crap on the item pages and b) because it's honestly not something we need to have. |
| 00:19.35 | pcj | well i'm not writing that javascript sorry |
| 00:19.42 | Sky2042 | Then we're not using javascript. |
| 00:19.49 | Sky2042 | shrugs. |
| 00:19.53 | pcj | it's far easier to refer to images using wikicode than javascript |
| 00:20.10 | pcj | especially with the way wikia stores images |
| 00:21.42 | Zeal | the names don't mean anything pcj, as it's not a real world example. see if you can get wtf or other properties that are set in {{Zeal-SMW-WTF}} to display on the page via {{Zeal-SMW}} |
| 00:21.42 | Dotted | Zeal meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Zeal-SMW-WTF, www.wowwiki.com/Template:Zeal-SMW |
| 00:22.09 | Zeal | if you can't, delete the page. if you can, hurray, then delete the page. |
| 00:22.20 | pcj | oh ok let me look at that then |
| 00:26.04 | Zeal | seriously...? |
| 00:26.48 | Zeal | that made no sense |
| 00:26.55 | pcj | appears to be working |
| 00:27.02 | Sky2042 | Zeal: You're talking to pcj, if you'll recall. |
| 00:27.03 | Zeal | why is Moo linked on the final page, but not linked in the template? |
| 00:27.37 | pcj | moo isn't linked on the final page |
| 00:27.39 | pcj | refresh |
| 00:27.51 | Zeal | caching fails |
| 00:28.26 | Zeal | in that case, did what i write originally work fine and just the cache failed? |
| 00:28.53 | Zeal | considering the output of #show was simple text, and why i had [[ ]] around it. :/ |
| 00:28.53 | Dotted | Zeal meant: www.wowwiki.com/_ |
| 00:29.00 | pcj | no dotted |
| 00:29.01 | pcj | just no |
| 00:29.04 | Zeal | haha |
| 00:29.19 | pcj | ok to delete now? |
| 00:29.26 | Zeal | yeah, it works, yay. delete |
| 00:35.42 | Sky2042 | Hmm. |
| 00:40.35 | Zeal | gn |
| 00:41.19 | Sky2042 | Oh, oh wow. |
| 00:41.50 | pcj | thats what she said |
| 00:42.21 | Sky2042 | Wait, so, what was your problem with cost item? |
| 00:42.28 | Sky2042 | costitem* |
| 00:43.03 | pcj | it used mode |
| 00:43.11 | pcj | or whatever |
| 00:43.58 | Sky2042 | Ok, I'm just seeing it use arg=icon again... which can be gotten from [[Property:Icon]] |
| 00:43.58 | Dotted | Sky2042 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Property:Icon |
| 00:44.42 | pcj | i was just pointing out another template for you to change |
| 00:44.52 | pcj | you said changing item removed mode |
| 00:44.57 | Sky2042 | Oh, ok. |
| 00:44.57 | pcj | and i was pointing out that other templates used it |
| 00:45.32 | Sky2042 | I thought you were trying to bring templates up which wouldn't be able to use smw in some way, rather than simply "other templates". |
| 00:45.34 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 00:46.31 | Sky2042 | Need to tweak Item/dev. Not quite up to scratch with live atm. |
| 00:46.41 | Sky2042 | And then we can get rid of {{loot}} |
| 00:46.41 | Dotted | Sky2042 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:loot |
| 00:46.42 | Sky2042 | \o/ |
| 00:47.03 | pcj | nah |
| 00:47.15 | Sky2042 | Why not? |
| 00:47.18 | Sky2042 | (curious) |
| 00:47.33 | pcj | having loot links with correct colors is useful for pages that don't exist |
| 00:47.54 | Sky2042 | :/ |
| 00:47.58 | Sky2042 | Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. |
| 00:48.08 | Sky2042 | Yeah. I guess. |
| 00:48.44 | Sky2042 | We can still keep it on the perma-deprecated list though. |
| 00:49.10 | pcj | also the JS external links don't get generated from {{item}} |
| 00:49.11 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:item |
| 00:49.20 | pcj | because it's just a red link |
| 00:49.27 | pcj | not a formatted loot link |
| 00:49.59 | Sky2042 | You don't use the js to grab the name input? |
| 00:50.16 | pcj | only for links that are properly formatted |
| 00:50.21 | pcj | i don't do it for all links |
| 00:50.25 | pcj | that would be a cpu killer |
| 00:50.27 | Sky2042 | What is "properly formatted"? |
| 00:50.56 | pcj | in class ajaxttlink |
| 00:51.03 | pcj | or whatever it has when the page exists |
| 00:51.12 | Sky2042 | Ahhhh. |
| 00:51.42 | Sky2042 | Brb |
| 00:52.35 | kd3 | all right... any other tooltip params to smwize? think I've got nearly all of them at this point |
| 00:57.24 | g0urra | glares at mashed up quests |
| 00:59.31 | pcj | kd3 how would we implement http://www.wowwiki.com/Martin_Thunder using your template |
| 00:59.45 | pcj | i don't see item class miscellaneous |
| 01:00.38 | g0urra | Martin Thunder is a lie |
| 01:00.39 | g0urra | it's Martin's Broken Staff |
| 01:00.42 | g0urra | http://www.wowhead.com/item=192 |
| 01:01.03 | pcj | also kd3 you didn't smw-itize bonus armor |
| 01:01.16 | kd3 | not that such a thing exists... but [[allows value::Miscellaneous]] is now on prop:item type |
| 01:01.16 | Dotted | kd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/allows_value::Miscellaneous |
| 01:01.53 | pcj | no dotted |
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| 01:03.51 | pcj | kd3 don't forget to note block rating doesn't exist in cata |
| 01:04.09 | Sky2042 | A few ratings don't. |
| 01:04.35 | pcj | or is it block value? i just confused myself |
| 01:04.37 | Sky2042 | That's not a big concern though, tbh. |
| 01:04.46 | pcj | yeah block value |
| 01:05.03 | pcj | he noted every other removal though |
| 01:05.26 | Sky2042 | Ah. |
| 01:05.48 | pcj | i'm not sure what <li class="ttslot-{{{slot|None}}}"> is used for... |
| 01:05.48 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:{slot|None |
| 01:05.51 | pcj | no dotted |
| 01:05.58 | pcj | i don't think it's for JS... |
| 01:06.20 | g0urra | sometime I wish I had a bot to do all these items |
| 01:06.20 | pcj | well no i know it's not for JS |
| 01:06.33 | pcj | i just use JS and warcraftjs.com |
| 01:06.37 | pcj | but that's just me |
| 01:10.05 | Sky2042 | yank it if there's no reason for it to be there. |
| 01:10.10 | Sky2042 | might as well. |
| 01:10.33 | Sky2042 | Are you not using it for the profiler that pulls from armory? |
| 01:11.00 | pcj | ttslot? |
| 01:11.01 | pcj | no |
| 01:11.06 | pcj | what profiler |
| 01:11.50 | Sky2042 | eh. |
| 01:11.52 | Sky2042 | nvm |
| 01:11.53 | Sky2042 | yank it. |
| 01:12.46 | pcj | kd3: feral ap? |
| 01:12.49 | pcj | is that still even in cata |
| 01:12.56 | kd3 | don't think so |
| 01:13.04 | kd3 | I'll do it just to be safe |
| 01:14.50 | pcj | +fap |
| 01:14.51 | pcj | nice |
| 01:14.57 | Sky2042 | :D |
| 01:15.23 | pcj | kd3 what about gem colors |
| 01:15.29 | pcj | separate those from flavor? |
| 01:15.49 | kd3 | gems/races/classes I'm still trying to decide |
| 01:16.02 | pcj | i think gem colors would be awesome for smw |
| 01:16.11 | kd3 | at present, just catting them together isn't going to work |
| 01:16.16 | kd3 | points at [[Test]] |
| 01:17.12 | pcj | hmm can a property be defined to two different things? |
| 01:17.15 | pcj | or multiple* |
| 01:17.24 | Sky2042 | One the extensions allows that. |
| 01:17.28 | Sky2042 | One of* |
| 01:17.31 | kd3 | yes. [[races::dwarf]], [[races::gnome]] works fine |
| 01:17.31 | Dotted | kd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/races::dwarf, www.wowwiki.com/races::gnome |
| 01:17.46 | pcj | ok just #explode then #set |
| 01:17.50 | Sky2042 | Oh, it does doesn't. |
| 01:17.54 | pcj | or something |
| 01:19.21 | Sky2042 | I've got motherfuckin' pasta, bitches, AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO USE IT. |
| 01:19.39 | pcj | put down the pasta and no one will get hurt |
| 01:20.10 | Sky2042 | What, you think I'm holding it in my hands? IT'S ON THE STOVE! HOT MOTHAFUCKIN PASTA |
| 01:20.44 | pcj | well thats why i said not to hold it so you wouldn't get hurt |
| 01:20.45 | pcj | duh |
| 01:22.05 | Sky2042 | Oh, ok. As long as you're looking out for my safety. |
| 01:22.08 | Sky2042 | salutes pcj. |
| 01:28.23 | Ressy | pcj:Not getting an answer on wikia, so wanna ask you. What page do I edit to change which preloads show up when creating a new page? |
| 01:29.01 | pcj | sec |
| 01:29.47 | pcj | ressy: while i look it up the easiest way to find what system message you want to change is to search for the current text on Special:AllMessages |
| 01:30.01 | Ressy | oh. ty :) |
| 01:30.09 | Ressy | I'll find it. thx a lot :) |
| 01:30.27 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Newarticletext |
| 01:30.28 | g0urra | ? |
| 01:30.33 | pcj | incidentally it is taking forever for me to lad |
| 01:30.41 | pcj | yeah thats it |
| 01:30.54 | Ressy | awesome. ty :) |
| 01:34.24 | Sky2042 | ooo, cooldown and cast time. |
| 01:34.25 | Sky2042 | sexy. |
| 01:34.43 | Sky2042 | goes to poke at infobox ability |
| 01:34.52 | g0urra | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816897095&sid=1 |
| 01:34.53 | g0urra | what. |
| 01:35.43 | Sky2042 | chuckles. |
| 01:35.57 | Sky2042 | Someone who hasn't played the game in 3 years has a key while so many who have so faithfully paid their dues do not. |
| 01:36.18 | pcj | isn't the cataclysm forum exclusive to beta members? |
| 01:36.18 | Sky2042 | It's who you know, as always. |
| 01:36.25 | pcj | or is that just a normal cataclysm forum |
| 01:36.29 | Sky2042 | That's the normal one. |
| 01:36.36 | Sky2042 | The bg is wrath; cata has a cata bg. |
| 01:36.43 | pcj | oh ok |
| 01:37.13 | Sky2042 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?sid=2000&topicId=24702232194 |
| 01:37.17 | Sky2042 | for example. |
| 01:37.24 | Sky2042 | hmm |
| 01:37.38 | Sky2042 | Blue, green, red... wonder what the next expansion's color's theme will be. |
| 01:37.47 | Sky2042 | theme's color. |
| 01:37.55 | *** join/#wowwiki Alram (~Marla@fabe.xs4all.nl) |
| 01:37.58 | pcj | purple |
| 01:38.13 | Sky2042 | Into the Void is the next one, then. |
| 01:38.15 | Sky2042 | :D |
| 01:38.22 | pcj | halion makes a return, we all sing "I Love You" and give him a great big hug |
| 01:39.39 | Sky2042 | What's the GCD these days, ignoring haste? |
| 01:40.10 | pcj | it's too bad we don't have a site we can look questions like that up at |
| 01:40.13 | pcj | oh wait |
| 01:40.13 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Global_cooldown#Global_cooldown |
| 01:40.31 | Sky2042 | D: |
| 01:41.58 | kd3 | ugh. explode looks to be painful |
| 01:42.13 | kd3 | ponders |
| 01:42.48 | pcj | it's not that hard |
| 01:43.38 | kd3 | oh I know. I'm just used to explode returning arrays. this is going to be like 6 calls |
| 01:43.50 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 01:44.07 | pcj | yeah that bit is annoying |
| 01:44.28 | pcj | not like there's an array type though |
| 01:44.28 | g0urra | http://cata.wowhead.com/quest=26708 |
| 01:44.31 | g0urra | nice quest name. |
| 01:44.40 | Sky2042 | lols again. |
| 01:44.42 | kd3 | you missed my bitching in here about that |
| 01:44.49 | pcj | no i didn't |
| 01:44.59 | Sky2042 | I didn't either. |
| 01:45.31 | Sky2042 | I love that they don't have the items for that quest yet. |
| 01:45.53 | g0urra | lots of quests don't have items |
| 01:46.03 | Sky2042 | We are superior to Wowhead! w00t. |
| 01:46.57 | g0urra | I really have to make a quest item boilerplate too.. my wrists are starting to hurt from typing so much |
| 01:47.20 | pcj | is that what they call it now |
| 01:47.42 | g0urra | what |
| 01:47.44 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 01:54.53 | pcj | kd3 i don't think smw works in the user namespace |
| 01:55.22 | kd3 | I know. but was just trying to get the output working |
| 01:55.31 | pcj | oh |
| 01:55.35 | kd3 | see T2 momentarily |
| 01:59.23 | kd3 | now then... gems |
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| 02:18.28 | g0urra | shit, it's already 4am |
| 02:18.39 | pcj | thats what she said |
| 02:18.47 | g0urra | what. |
| 02:19.09 | pcj | might as well wait until the sunrise |
| 02:20.22 | g0urra | with how bright it is outside nowadays it feels like there's no night at all |
| 02:20.33 | g0urra | I love when it's pitch black in the winter |
| 02:20.42 | pcj | you're not in the arctic circle are you |
| 02:21.04 | g0urra | no but not far off |
| 02:21.08 | pcj | cool |
| 02:23.30 | g0urra | meh, might as well sleep |
| 02:26.29 | pcj | well i meant what color each gem matches too kd3 |
| 02:26.40 | pcj | "Matches a Red Socket" |
| 02:26.59 | kd3 | oh-hoh. yah. that's doable |
| 02:28.08 | pcj | also i don't think you should link the socket bonus effect |
| 02:28.19 | pcj | oh nvm |
| 02:28.20 | pcj | you fixed it |
| 02:28.22 | kd3 | ya |
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| 02:29.33 | pcj | huh it saves that property as +3_Intellect |
| 02:30.21 | pcj | nvm again :\ |
| 02:33.09 | kd3 | ok... any non-back compat changes? outside of sell and skill? |
| 02:35.08 | pcj | well you could eliminate arg since it is replaced by semantics |
| 02:35.34 | pcj | unless you intend for this to go live immediately without replacing other templates |
| 02:35.42 | kd3 | that can wait until the jobqueue goes through. |
| 02:35.51 | kd3 | was considering pushing this live once everything's done |
| 02:36.47 | pcj | heroic link needs fixed |
| 02:36.59 | pcj | or something |
| 02:38.47 | pcj | {{#set:item duration={{{duration}}}}}<li>[[Duration (item)|Duration: {{{duration}}}]]}} |
| 02:38.48 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:{duration, www.wowwiki.com/Duration_(item)|Duration:_{{{duration}}} |
| 02:38.59 | pcj | could be reduced to just link the "Duration" bit and not the value |
| 02:39.09 | pcj | to be similar to other attributes |
| 02:40.42 | pcj | well you could simplify that now that you're not linking the duration too |
| 02:41.20 | pcj | [[item duration::{{{duration}}}|Duration]]: etc |
| 02:41.20 | kd3 | nah. look at what I did for cooldown/cast. it's necessary because displaying the time (since it's got multiple values) puts it in orange text |
| 02:41.20 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/item_duration::{{{duration}}}|Duration |
| 02:41.34 | pcj | oh |
| 02:42.14 | pcj | what exactly is a 16 slot staff |
| 02:42.32 | kd3 | type is overloaded if bag= is called |
| 02:42.51 | pcj | you removed bagtype? |
| 02:42.56 | kd3 | not I, no |
| 02:43.02 | pcj | oh its still in tooltip doc |
| 02:43.03 | pcj | hmm |
| 02:43.08 | pcj | someone sucks at documentation |
| 02:43.44 | pcj | hi foxlit |
| 02:44.14 | foxlit | hi pcj. Describe your medical emergency |
| 02:44.27 | pcj | you failed to document bagtype change to tooltip |
| 02:44.30 | pcj | hf |
| 02:44.50 | pcj | lol http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Test&rcid=2348699 |
| 02:45.07 | foxlit | "|bagtype= (avoid in favour of |type=) |
| 02:45.08 | foxlit | Full name of the bag type (i.e. "Soul Bag", "Enchanting Bag", ...)." |
| 02:45.11 | pcj | kd3 Requires Gnomish Engineering is giving an error |
| 02:45.18 | pcj | yeah well bagtype is completely removed in tooltip |
| 02:45.21 | kd3 | yah, I just fixed that |
| 02:45.32 | kd3 | forgot we're already using prof for the specialization |
| 02:45.34 | pcj | no it's not |
| 02:45.36 | pcj | sorry foxlit |
| 02:45.58 | pcj | kd3: Item Bag Slots -->{{#if:{{{bag|}}}|<li>{{{bag}}} Slot [[{{lc:{{{bagtype|{{{type|Bag}}}}}}}}|{{{bagtype|{{{type|Bag}}}}}}]]}}<!-- |
| 02:45.58 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:{bag|, www.wowwiki.com/Template:{bag, www.wowwiki.com/{{lc:{{{bagtype|{{{type|Bag}}}}}}}}|{{{bagtype|{{{type|Bag}}}}}} |
| 02:46.02 | foxlit | It should be gone from articles, however. |
| 02:46.07 | pcj | indeed |
| 02:46.14 | pcj | but kd3's on a backward-compat kick |
| 02:46.19 | pcj | so i just wanted to point it out |
| 02:46.36 | foxlit | So you could drop it if you wanted to; on the other hand, it affords some flexibility if someone suddenly decides to make an unexpectedly new bag type |
| 02:47.43 | kd3 | ok, rather, now the prof lines are fixed |
| 02:51.02 | pcj | so kd3 are you getting rid of vendor |
| 02:51.08 | pcj | err sell |
| 02:51.34 | kd3 | if we can come up with a better way, I'm all ears |
| 02:52.53 | pcj | kd3 do we need createq? couldn't you retrieve that with #ask |
| 02:54.57 | kd3 | once the jobqueue updates, it can go poof, most likely |
| 02:55.08 | pcj | yeah |
| 02:55.31 | pcj | except for recipes with items that don't yet exist on the wiki :S |
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| 02:58.30 | kd3 | speaking of... |
| 02:58.38 | kd3 | it's (almost) over 3,000 |
| 02:58.38 | kd3 | whee |
| 03:04.28 | pcj | we can probably reduce {{DE}} too |
| 03:04.28 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:DE |
| 03:07.50 | pcj | kd3: would be nice to somehow flag mounts/companions |
| 03:10.08 | pcj | and other things not displayed in tooltip |
| 03:10.12 | pcj | like where it drops etc |
| 03:10.22 | pcj | hmm |
| 03:11.40 | pcj | or prospectable/disenchantable/millable |
| 03:13.33 | pcj | kd3: http://www.wowwiki.com/Corrupted_Ashbringer |
| 03:13.34 | pcj | "Equip: Inflicts the will of the Ashbringer upon the wielder." |
| 03:14.05 | pcj | pwned |
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| 03:17.22 | pcj | <@pcj> kd3: would be nice to somehow flag mounts/companions |
| 03:17.22 | pcj | <@pcj> and other things not displayed in tooltip |
| 03:17.22 | pcj | <@pcj> like where it drops etc |
| 03:17.22 | pcj | <@pcj> hmm |
| 03:17.22 | pcj | <@pcj> or prospectable/disenchantable/millable |
| 03:17.22 | kd3 | grr |
| 03:17.23 | pcj | <@pcj> kd3: http://www.wowwiki.com/Corrupted_Ashbringer |
| 03:17.23 | pcj | <@pcj> "Equip: Inflicts the will of the Ashbringer upon the wielder." |
| 03:17.26 | kd3 | stupid drops |
| 03:17.44 | kd3 | the last one is why I left |equip= in |
| 03:17.54 | pcj | yeah but that's at the bottom |
| 03:17.56 | pcj | this is at the top |
| 03:17.59 | pcj | or are you ignoring order? |
| 03:18.14 | kd3 | oh, well then it can go to the top. I've got everything in order afaict |
| 03:18.28 | pcj | well on that too chance on hit is on the bottom :S |
| 03:18.45 | kd3 | looks for thunderfury again |
| 03:19.07 | pcj | thunderfury just had one effect |
| 03:19.17 | pcj | it was long but just one |
| 03:22.36 | pcj | http://www.wowhead.com/item=44914 |
| 03:22.39 | pcj | thats annoying kd3 |
| 03:23.02 | pcj | yay blizzard inconsistency |
| 03:23.31 | kd3 | that'd have to be on the effects line. "chance on hit" is only melee swings iirc |
| 03:24.00 | pcj | well if special effect is on top then what's it doing on the bottom |
| 03:24.40 | pcj | http://www.wowhead.com/item=17073 |
| 03:24.43 | pcj | chance on hit on top :S |
| 03:24.53 | pcj | i think the point to learn from this is blizzard is inconsistent |
| 03:24.57 | pcj | so it doesn't matter i guess |
| 03:25.19 | kd3 | equip: chance on hit does foo != chance on hit: bar |
| 03:25.43 | pcj | http://www.wowhead.com/item=12782 |
| 03:25.45 | pcj | negative stat |
| 03:26.07 | kd3 | grumbles |
| 03:26.20 | pcj | blizzard loves you kd3 |
| 03:28.07 | Adys | Chance on Hit is something blizz is trying to get rid of |
| 03:28.18 | Adys | unnecessary mechanic when spells can handle it perfectly fine themselves |
| 03:29.14 | pcj | well the point is more how they ignore effect order than anything with chance on hit |
| 03:39.03 | kd3 | kk. negative attributes |
| 03:41.27 | pcj | kd3 what about meta gem effects |
| 03:41.55 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Effulgent_Skyflare_Diamond |
| 03:43.16 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Nightmare_Tear |
| 03:43.20 | pcj | also |
| 03:44.53 | Sky2042_afk | Negative properties of type number are allowed... what was the /me grumbles for? |
| 03:45.08 | kd3 | edge cases I hadn't thought about |
| 03:45.19 | pcj | edge cases are the best |
| 03:46.36 | pcj | kd3 you should probably call it something like gem effect instead because of nightmare tear et al |
| 03:46.54 | Sky2042 | +10 all stats |
| 03:47.06 | Sky2042 | Why can't Blizzard just pull a 2 ring and put all the stats on there? |
| 03:47.14 | pcj | haha |
| 03:47.28 | Sky2042 | rages about the idiocy. |
| 03:47.45 | pcj | kd3 also meta gem requirement text seems to look different than other requirement text |
| 03:50.44 | Sky2042 | lol, korval. |
| 03:50.50 | Sky2042 | "Better than the Sword of a Thousand Truths." |
| 03:51.53 | pcj | mmm 207mb beta patch |
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| 03:52.47 | Sky2042 | Can I give a property a property instead of a type? |
| 03:52.49 | Sky2042 | :3 |
| 03:53.07 | pcj | *twitch* |
| 03:53.22 | Ose | wut? |
| 03:53.26 | pcj | pretty sure you can |
| 03:53.32 | Ose | you got SMW? |
| 03:53.36 | pcj | duh |
| 03:53.36 | Sky2042 | Ose: Hrp. |
| 03:53.41 | pcj | we get whatever we want |
| 03:53.54 | Sky2042 | Because we're they're money maker. |
| 03:54.03 | Sky2042 | mutters. |
| 03:54.18 | pcj | except spelled correctly |
| 03:54.19 | Ose | while i'm in the middle of nowhere typing on my ipod |
| 03:54.22 | Ose | great |
| 03:54.45 | Sky2042 | s/they're/their/ |
| 03:55.06 | Sky2042 | Thank you infobot. Now gtfo. |
| 03:57.20 | Sky2042 | kd3: Is there a reason why you're hooking into {{sell}} instead of just placing said code directly in tooltip? |
| 03:57.20 | Dotted | Sky2042 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:sell |
| 03:57.30 | pcj | that was my point too Sky2042 |
| 03:57.36 | pcj | he wanted to replace cost with sell |
| 03:57.43 | Sky2042 | when and where? |
| 03:57.48 | kd3 | I wanted to just use cost |
| 03:58.34 | pcj | <@kd3> need to store the sell price in copper, but we hand the template another template. can we pull the params out of {{cost}} to move them elsewhere? |
| 03:58.34 | pcj | <+Dotted> kd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:cost |
| 03:58.34 | pcj | <@kd3> I've settled on the interim solution of using {{sell}} (an alias of {{costcopper}}) to save the value as a number, then passing that to coppercost to display in the tooltip |
| 03:58.34 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:cost |
| 03:58.35 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:sell, www.wowwiki.com/Template:costcopper |
| 03:58.39 | kd3 | but getting it to output copper instead of 1g2s3c means things break everywhere. Created sell so there's an easy way to put in the sell price |
| 03:59.00 | pcj | oh he's back |
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| 04:01.11 | Ose | hmm |
| 04:01.28 | Sky2042 | Ose: Stop failing. |
| 04:01.34 | Ose | doesn't like macs |
| 04:01.38 | pcj | welcome to the club |
| 04:01.38 | Sky2042 | Or I'll kick you like #wikia would kick you. |
| 04:01.40 | Ose | failing how? |
| 04:01.50 | pcj | using an apple product duh |
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| 04:02.15 | Ose | just switched from iPod to MacBook :P |
| 04:02.18 | Ose | not mine though |
| 04:02.23 | Ose | but it will do |
| 04:02.24 | pcj | using another apple product* |
| 04:03.11 | Ose | has also ordered an iPad |
| 04:03.16 | pcj | more fial |
| 04:03.19 | pcj | fail* |
| 04:03.21 | pcj | shh |
| 04:04.16 | Ose | back to SMW |
| 04:04.21 | Sky2042 | Okay. |
| 04:04.26 | Ose | how are you declaring the properties? |
| 04:04.41 | Ose | using the declare parserfunction? |
| 04:04.49 | pcj | very carefully |
| 04:04.49 | Sky2042 | Ose: Declaring...? |
| 04:05.20 | kd3 | go to property:foo. edit it [[has type::string]]. hit save. go somewhere else. edit [[foo::bar]] |
| 04:05.21 | Dotted | kd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/has_type::string, www.wowwiki.com/foo::bar |
| 04:05.30 | Ose | eww |
| 04:05.46 | kd3 | somewhere else now has the foo property with value bar |
| 04:05.55 | Ose | can't find brackets on this thing |
| 04:06.04 | Ose | hulp |
| 04:06.16 | Sky2042 | Stop failing, Ose. I already warned you once. |
| 04:06.26 | Sky2042 | Also, why the fuck do we not close our <li>s? |
| 04:06.28 | Sky2042 | -.- |
| 04:06.51 | Ose | has no other options right now |
| 04:06.58 | Ose | iPod or MacBook |
| 04:07.19 | Sky2042 | Stop looking for hard-to-find keys and substitute with ez-to-find keys. |
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| 04:08.34 | Sky2042 | Oh, declare is nice. |
| 04:08.54 | Sky2042 | Not great though, for a complicated template, imo. |
| 04:09.15 | Sky2042 | But that seems to espouse it as a template win. |
| 04:09.17 | Sky2042 | shrugs. |
| 04:09.28 | Sky2042 | kd3 / pcj: http://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Declare |
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| 04:10.13 | Sky2042 | It doesn't look like it handles if cases well, at all. |
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| 04:11.34 | Ose | [[has fail::epic]] |
| 04:11.44 | Sky2042 | Ose: We already knew that. |
| 04:11.54 | Sky2042 | Sky2042>Oh, declare is nice. |
| 04:12.05 | Sky2042 | Sky2042>Not great though, for a complicated template, imo. |
| 04:12.07 | Sky2042 | [00:09]But that seems to espouse it as a template win. |
| 04:12.09 | Sky2042 | * Sky2042shrugs. |
| 04:12.10 | Sky2042 | <Sky2042>kd3 / pcj: http://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Declare |
| 04:12.12 | Sky2042 | Sky2042>It doesn't look like it handles if cases well, at all. |
| 04:12.40 | Ose | saw all that |
| 04:12.52 | Ose | as Guestsomethingsomething |
| 04:16.31 | Sky2042 | senses that Ose failed again. |
| 04:18.50 | Ose | howso? |
| 04:19.21 | Ose | btw, i'll be in SF tomorrow, anyone from Wikia I need to beat up? |
| 04:19.49 | Sky2042 | Jimmy Wales would be a good start. |
| 04:20.11 | pcj | too bad kirkburn's not there |
| 04:20.14 | Sky2042 | You figure it out from there. |
| 04:20.17 | Sky2042 | Yeah, too bad. |
| 04:21.01 | pcj | well if you could find some of the people responsible for most of their "features" that would be nice too |
| 04:21.25 | kd3 | ^ |
| 04:21.26 | kd3 | ^^^^^ |
| 04:21.32 | kd3 | kill whoever did <gallery> first |
| 04:22.06 | Sky2042 | Followed by [[Video:]]. |
| 04:22.06 | Dotted | Sky2042 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Video: |
| 04:22.10 | pcj | the coders are probalby mostly in poland |
| 04:22.15 | pcj | but whoever decided to implement it |
| 04:23.05 | Sky2042 | Would anyone on IRC object to me posting a forum about removing the Video extension, actually? |
| 04:23.33 | pcj | Yes, explicitly, free speech will not be tolerated |
| 04:23.52 | Sky2042 | Shit, didn't know this was England. |
| 04:24.05 | pcj | this is the internet |
| 04:24.15 | Sky2042 | Shit again. |
| 04:24.21 | pcj | your opinions are not welcome here |
| 04:25.43 | Sky2042 | Way to rile up #wikia there pcj. |
| 04:26.03 | Sky2042 | OMG BOTS UGH |
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| 14:23.49 | g0urra | Zeal |
| 14:25.25 | g0urra | Deathwing <Aspect of Death> |
| 14:25.26 | g0urra | derp |
| 14:25.36 | Zeal | aye |
| 14:25.43 | g0urra | bwaha |
| 14:25.56 | Zeal | was fun |
| 14:26.13 | Zeal | in TH btw. |
| 14:31.26 | g0urra | Zeal: mind if I replace yours with a cropped image? |
| 14:34.21 | Zeal | not at all, go for it. |
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| 14:35.55 | Zeal | just two bits of TH to check out left, looking pretty cool tbh. |
| 14:35.59 | Zeal | though kills my fps |
| 14:36.20 | g0urra | TH? |
| 14:36.22 | g0urra | o |
| 14:36.25 | kd3 | so uh... wow |
| 14:36.25 | g0urra | twilight highlands |
| 14:36.27 | kd3 | http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm77/gamergcps/WoWScrnShot_073010_021251.jpg |
| 14:36.35 | g0urra | rofl. |
| 14:36.49 | Amarande | awesomeness |
| 14:36.55 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26227282609&sid=2000&pageNo=1#18 |
| 14:36.58 | kd3 | logs in to check |
| 14:42.20 | kd3 | Epicus Maximus <Paragon of Epicosity>, 90 elite shark... on top, "And a Dinosaur", 60 rare elite, and on top... ?ROCK ON", 85 elite forsaken with The Ripper |
| 14:48.12 | Zeal | hehe |
| 14:48.16 | Zeal | done with TH |
| 14:48.23 | Zeal | some interesting things going on |
| 14:48.37 | Zeal | can't stat the only two quests i saw due to being 83 |
| 14:48.42 | Zeal | not that i'd want to tbh |
| 14:48.46 | Zeal | *start |
| 14:53.57 | Zeal | zomg, portal didn't crash |
| 14:54.17 | Ressy | lol |
| 14:56.32 | g0urra | Zeal: teach me how to hax :< |
| 14:56.52 | Zeal | there was 4 ways i've heard of it |
| 14:57.35 | Zeal | 1 was removed, another has been changed to disallow it, another i don't really get how you're supposed to do it, and the last i was told has been fixed, but it the one i used. |
| 14:57.53 | Zeal | *is |
| 14:58.09 | Zeal | how to get into Uldum though, no idea. |
| 14:58.17 | g0urra | PM pl0x |
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| 15:00.46 | g0urra | got some screenshots in the deathwing q |
| 15:00.47 | g0urra | http://www.mediafire.com/?4y12i8fuq84kafv |
| 15:10.53 | kd3 | ahaha, there's a quest to kill hogger in the stormwind stockade now |
| 15:19.55 | Eraclito | stockade got changes? |
| 15:19.58 | Eraclito | and maybe loot? |
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| 15:24.49 | Amarande | hogger got arrested? |
| 15:24.50 | Amarande | wtf? |
| 15:36.24 | Zeal | tanaris widlelife sure as hell got alot more interesting |
| 15:36.30 | Zeal | *wildlife |
| 15:37.15 | Zeal | haha |
| 15:37.29 | Zeal | Narian Soothfancy moved |
| 15:37.39 | Zeal | got his book with him |
| 15:37.56 | Zeal | his old book is now "Evil Soothsaying for Dummies" |
| 15:38.09 | Zeal | still in it's old location |
| 15:38.22 | Eraclito | where's narian now? |
| 15:43.23 | g0urra | approaching the huge island with several goblin zeps anchored to it.. |
| 15:47.55 | g0urra | "Tentacle of Isorath" |
| 15:47.55 | g0urra | eek |
| 15:52.28 | kd3 | no loot yet |
| 15:52.32 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Gnoll_King |
| 15:52.43 | kd3 | the quest's also broken. the completion text in-game belongs to another quest |
| 15:54.39 | g0urra | http://i31.tinypic.com/2ufwuag.jpg |
| 15:54.43 | g0urra | do I want to know what this is? |
| 15:54.55 | kd3 | that's a flame ascendant |
| 15:55.10 | kd3 | "ascended" twilight cultists in elemental form |
| 15:55.21 | g0urra | Bound Fleshburner |
| 15:56.02 | Zeal | hehe, mario and luigi reference chars in ungoro |
| 15:56.08 | g0urra | oooooooold |
| 15:56.10 | kd3 | they're still there? yay |
| 15:57.03 | g0urra | sigh |
| 15:57.08 | g0urra | first The Sundering in STV |
| 15:57.13 | g0urra | now The Great Sundering in TH |
| 15:57.18 | Zeal | it's a new type of elemental, specifically a bound one. |
| 15:57.32 | Zeal | use as ascendants is for PH purposes |
| 15:57.53 | Zeal | the fire ascendent model was only added this build and i've not seen it actually used yet. |
| 15:58.06 | g0urra | Kurdran Wildhammer |
| 15:58.07 | g0urra | :o |
| 16:02.20 | Zeal | Guess i can't see any of the alliance npcs |
| 16:02.40 | Zeal | alliance base was empty, and saw no wildhammers around. |
| 16:03.00 | g0urra | Victory Point |
| 16:03.03 | g0urra | I'm horde |
| 16:03.31 | Zeal | scartach that, alliance shamans were in the base chain lightninging a demonic style portal |
| 16:03.40 | Zeal | oh that place, i must have skimmed. :x |
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| 16:04.02 | g0urra | Zeal it's a small outpost just south of verrall river |
| 16:04.09 | Zeal | aye, i know. |
| 16:04.13 | g0urra | mkay |
| 16:04.15 | Zeal | i just forgot to look at the npcs :P |
| 16:04.48 | g0urra | I was kinda surprised though to see alliance gryphons affiliated with a Therazane faction |
| 16:05.21 | Zeal | therazane, huh? |
| 16:05.26 | g0urra | ayup |
| 16:05.32 | g0urra | in an earthen circle group |
| 16:05.34 | g0urra | or earthen ring |
| 16:05.52 | Zeal | ah |
| 16:06.20 | Zeal | temporary alliance between earthern ring and therazane is all. :P |
| 16:07.12 | Zeal | so what race are you? belf? |
| 16:07.26 | Zeal | you looked humanish, so assumed you were alliance, lol. |
| 16:08.15 | g0urra | lots of named dragons |
| 16:08.17 | g0urra | yeah belf |
| 16:08.34 | g0urra | Setrastrasza |
| 16:08.44 | g0urra | Vordastrasz |
| 16:08.53 | g0urra | Tederastrasz |
| 16:09.05 | g0urra | Nostrastrasz |
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| 16:09.49 | Zeal | yeah, never seen so many strasz |
| 16:10.19 | Zeal | i saw that one of them, humaoid at the tree, is captured in the main twilight base in her dragon form. |
| 16:10.31 | Zeal | lirastrasz or something |
| 16:10.51 | Zeal | and damn AQ dismounting me... killed me |
| 16:11.00 | g0urra | lol |
| 16:12.15 | g0urra | Blindeye the Guardian |
| 16:12.22 | Zeal | be nice if they fix pets desummoning and not being resummonable until visiting a stable some time soon... |
| 16:14.27 | g0urra | Initiate Goldmind |
| 16:14.27 | g0urra | hah |
| 16:14.30 | g0urra | Goldmine* |
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| 16:17.20 | g0urra | oh god they've got a friggin army here |
| 16:17.40 | g0urra | oh yeah Zeal |
| 16:17.43 | g0urra | Lirastrasza |
| 16:18.28 | Amarande | so are we going to have to kill Lira like we had to Keri? |
| 16:18.42 | g0urra | qdunno |
| 16:18.58 | Amarande | and do we have any weird ass healing battles in raids this time around like we did in ICC? |
| 16:19.13 | Amarande | I'm still not sure that was really that good an idea, even if it's a neat idea in another way |
| 16:19.46 | g0urra | http://i29.tinypic.com/2niurug.jpg |
| 16:19.55 | Amarande | because of the fact that it seems that that means a lot of ICC25 guilds are going to include one or two people doomed to only get one badge and one shot at loot a week from it |
| 16:20.15 | Amarande | since they will be healers that are brought in JUST for that one battle and then kicked out again to bring sexy ... er, I mean DPS back |
| 16:20.18 | g0urra | Lirastrasza says: <name>, is that you? Please free me from these chains. |
| 16:21.03 | Amarande | BTW, does the new 10/25 lockout together thing only apply to Cata raids or will it be retroactively applied to LK raids as well? |
| 16:21.36 | g0urra | http://i26.tinypic.com/zoc7y9.jpg |
| 16:22.13 | g0urra | http://i26.tinypic.com/4ugv9j.jpg |
| 16:25.02 | g0urra | 86 views on the deathwing humanoid thread, 0 replies :< |
| 16:33.58 | Sky2042 | Okay. My official opinion: People who inhabit #wikia are morons. And now I will say no more of it. |
| 16:34.16 | Ressy | I didn't know about /ignore. lawl |
| 16:34.35 | Sky2042 | Ressy: Yeah, works just like in-game, but you can do more than just block a name. |
| 16:46.50 | Sky2042 | Ugh, [[special:ask]] can't be styled. |
| 16:46.50 | Dotted | Sky2042 meant: www.wowwiki.com/special:ask |
| 16:46.53 | Sky2042 | fail. |
| 16:51.25 | Sky2042 | Hmm |
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| 17:11.17 | g0urra | http://i29.tinypic.com/2eoiau0.jpg |
| 17:12.53 | Sky2042 | g0urra: Whoa, where is that. |
| 17:12.58 | g0urra | Uldum |
| 17:13.05 | Sky2042 | Sexyyyyy |
| 17:13.54 | g0urra | http://i32.tinypic.com/15frq6w.jpg |
| 17:14.23 | Sky2042 | Ugh, question to ask ose |
| 17:14.40 | g0urra | http://i27.tinypic.com/6nxwy8.jpg |
| 17:14.58 | g0urra | okay found something nice |
| 17:15.22 | Sky2042 | Are you just flying around Worldviewer? |
| 17:15.36 | g0urra | no, in-game |
| 17:15.41 | g0urra | http://i31.tinypic.com/2napm5z.jpg |
| 17:16.36 | g0urra | whoa. this architecture |
| 17:16.47 | Sky2042 | g0urra: Bad g0urra. |
| 17:16.53 | Sky2042 | Using onlyinclude in quest pages. |
| 17:16.54 | g0urra | i no rite |
| 17:16.55 | Sky2042 | Bad g0urra. |
| 17:17.00 | g0urra | ? |
| 17:17.08 | Sky2042 | I told you about this before. |
| 17:17.10 | Sky2042 | -.- |
| 17:17.18 | g0urra | orite |
| 17:17.36 | Sky2042 | You still have it in whatever boilerplate you're using, don't you? |
| 17:17.45 | g0urra | yep |
| 17:17.49 | Sky2042 | -.- |
| 17:17.58 | g0urra | it's called "piss of Sky2042 quest boilerplate.txt" |
| 17:18.04 | Sky2042 | -.- |
| 17:18.27 | Sky2042 | The act of that is not directly pissing me off, it's just making my job longer and harder. Which that _does_. |
| 17:19.17 | g0urra | relax, it's only 1 or 2 new ones |
| 17:19.33 | g0urra | http://i27.tinypic.com/a2u92u.jpg |
| 17:24.21 | Sky2042 | Ugh, can't decide where to put that page. |
| 17:24.58 | Sky2042 | Hrp, one more. |
| 17:25.43 | g0urra | http://i29.tinypic.com/2vufrlw.jpg |
| 17:27.27 | g0urra | http://i25.tinypic.com/2dj5o35.jpg |
| 17:28.39 | deek| | ahh now i can type |
| 17:28.56 | g0urra | i can has camel |
| 17:28.56 | g0urra | http://i31.tinypic.com/1z4l2lj.jpg |
| 17:29.34 | deek| | that's a happy lookin camel |
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| 21:33.17 | Zeal | seriously, someone needs to bloody teach blizzard about EU taxation laws |
| 21:35.12 | Zeal | not until the final order confirmation, do they tell you the blizzcon virtual ticket price quoted is excluding VAT. if you use different payment methods (namely paypal) they don't even tell you that. even support seem to not know that they charge VAT on top of the quoted price and i had to get a refund already because they claimed it was paypal fees and not what they charged me. |
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| 21:59.15 | Alram | Zeal, the virtual ticket crap is by RayV |
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| 21:59.59 | Herodotus | That is pretty bad. I know they explicitly said (somewhere) the price doesn't include the VAT, but to have support simply not know is unacceptable. |
| 22:01.59 | Zeal | Alarm, that's the tech, not the company behind it, but it seems common to both Blizzard and Blizzard licensed products |
| 22:02.21 | Zeal | i'm still waiting to here from Blizzard why their store charged/charges 20% VAT to UK customers. |
| 22:03.07 | Zeal | whicvh is soemthing they don't declare until you get the paper invoice with your delivery. |
| 22:03.12 | Zeal | *which is something |
| 22:03.47 | Herodotus | They did add a lot of value to those 0's and 1's by making them sparkle and transport you around. |
| 22:04.19 | Zeal | this was on my windrider plushie :p |
| 22:05.14 | Herodotus | I'm actually not familiar with how VAT works, only that it tends to be a lot higher than the 5-7% sales tax people complain about in the US. |
| 22:06.41 | Herodotus | Oh, and that's only if you're in a state that /has/ one to begin with. :-) |
| 22:08.25 | Zeal | the relevent part is that EU law states that VAT applied (and reclaimed) is for the destination country, not the originating country. So, i should have been charged 17.5%. Technically, they made an extra profit. |
| 22:08.54 | Herodotus | Ah. |
| 22:08.58 | Ressy | You guys aren't using the smw forms, right? |
| 22:09.35 | Zeal | keep reading smw as swm, for sandwhichman. :p |
| 22:10.22 | Ressy | o.O |
| 22:10.40 | Ressy | Apparently smw forms is causing massive wiki instability. |
| 22:12.41 | Zeal | i have no idea what powers the forums wikia has in place. |
| 22:13.16 | Ressy | o.O |
| 22:15.13 | g0urra | derp, 81 |
| 22:15.34 | Zeal | the funny thing about http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/ssotd/#1399 is they're not there in the current build. :p |
| 22:15.54 | Alram | How is that a funny thing |
| 22:16.14 | g0urra | it's not, I got depressed when I got there and didn't see it :( |
| 22:16.15 | Zeal | staged |
| 22:16.27 | Alram | Zeal, current build was built 4 days ago |
| 22:16.35 | Alram | They couldve added those in the meantime |
| 22:16.46 | Zeal | no doubt |
| 22:17.09 | Alram | We'll see in next week's build |
| 22:17.17 | Zeal | but as i've seen requested a few times, it would be nice if we had beta screenshots submitted by beta testers instead. |
| 22:17.30 | Alram | Yeah, like that's going to happen :( |
| 22:18.36 | Alram | Think I'll go to Uldum again tomorrow |
| 22:18.51 | Alram | Make some more wallpapers :> |
| 22:20.20 | g0urra | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26262930105&sid=2000 |
| 22:20.21 | g0urra | . . . |
| 22:20.43 | Alram | inb4 removed from beta |
| 22:20.51 | g0urra | wat |
| 22:22.51 | Zeal | i had such a pear of pants on my belf pala, lowbie |
| 22:22.54 | Zeal | *pair |
| 22:23.04 | Zeal | hated them x_x |
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| 22:26.17 | g0urra | Zeal, you might want to change the other Tol'vir information too |
| 22:26.22 | g0urra | faction etc |
| 22:26.53 | g0urra | also it's quite ironic that there's a description for a faction that's not ready yet, however Guardians of Hyjal doesn't have one :p |
| 22:27.05 | Alram | neither do Theradane/the Earthen Ring |
| 22:27.06 | Alram | Sp nad |
| 22:27.10 | Alram | So bad. * |
| 22:27.18 | Alram | Like my late-night typing |
| 22:30.49 | Zeal | g0urra, the in-game achievement still lists it as the Tol'vir faction you gain rep with |
| 22:31.00 | g0urra | careface, we saw it in person |
| 22:31.24 | Zeal | the Remkahen faction was added a few builds after that, but no achievement linkage, hence it's actually datamined info atm and not on the wiki at all |
| 22:31.25 | g0urra | besides when was the achievement last updated |
| 22:31.56 | g0urra | lol did you see the We are Legendary achievement |
| 22:32.10 | Zeal | which is a shame, cos their existence and who are they is kinda important, espeically now they've released a screenshot of them :P |
| 22:32.13 | Zeal | yeah, lol |
| 22:32.26 | g0urra | http://cata.wowhead.com/achievement=4861 |
| 22:32.39 | g0urra | "Kill Garr 9650 times hoping for that binding to drop." |
| 22:33.04 | Zeal | that one was added in a few builds after the other criteria |
| 22:34.08 | g0urra | hurr |
| 22:34.13 | g0urra | achievement called Ramkahen |
| 22:34.27 | g0urra | "Earn exalted status with the Ramkahen Tol'vir" |
| 22:34.32 | Zeal | really? slipped by me then |
| 22:34.54 | g0urra | "Earn exalted status with the Dragonmaw Clan" |
| 22:35.04 | g0urra | looks for some red dwagons |
| 22:35.08 | Zeal | ah, they renamed it |
| 22:35.10 | Zeal | perfect |
| 22:35.19 | Zeal | that was the Tol'vir one in previous builds |
| 22:35.24 | Zeal | there we go then |
| 22:36.07 | g0urra | "Glory of the Cataclysm Raider (WIP): Complete every Cataclysm achievement and at least 4 protodrakes of various flavors." |
| 22:36.18 | g0urra | Cataclysm Raid achievement* |
| 22:36.21 | Zeal | tbh, was i right in undoing those changes? They're Tol'vir decendents, who have lost their heritage and stone skin. basically dwarvern version of earthern. we consider those seperate races. |
| 22:36.44 | g0urra | "Double Dragon (WIP): Defeat Valiona and Theralion within 1 second of each other while everyone in the raid is at 100% health." |
| 22:37.08 | g0urra | "Keeping it in the Family (WIP): Defeat the two dragons in a flamboyant manner." |
| 22:42.28 | Zeal | quite an important distinction |
| 22:42.50 | Zeal | so feel free to put you voice in people. butcher the Tol'vir page otherwise. |
| 22:52.20 | Zeal | oh damn, they would make it hard |
| 22:52.53 | Zeal | Ramkahen (race), Ramkahen (city), Ramkahen (faction) |
| 22:53.01 | Zeal | which would should i give priority? |
| 22:53.06 | Zeal | *which one |
| 22:53.11 | Zeal | i need to sleep soon... |
| 22:53.13 | Zeal | lol |
| 22:53.33 | Zeal | considering that the city can't be on the wiki yet cos it's DNP |
| 23:00.41 | g0urra | well, we have Orgrimmar and Orgrimmar (faction) |
| 23:00.50 | g0urra | but race.. |
| 23:05.31 | Zeal | anoob is right, though i don't agree (and i can see you didn't agree) with the merge |
| 23:05.39 | g0urra | wiee, trampoline |
| 23:05.53 | Zeal | lost the fact that they're both factions and races in the merge |
| 23:05.54 | Zeal | so meh |
| 23:06.05 | Zeal | seems silly to me |
| 23:06.07 | Zeal | oh well |
| 23:06.22 | Zeal | this is why i don't usually make major changes/new pages anymore |
| 23:06.57 | Zeal | would love to see how this ends up given the introduction of smw |
| 23:07.15 | Zeal | cos it will come out oddly applying faction and race properties to a single page |
| 23:07.16 | g0urra | heh |
| 23:12.27 | Zeal | g0urra upload the latest ssotd please :P |
| 23:12.37 | g0urra | ? |
| 23:17.17 | g0urra | grr, I want to level so I can do ramkahen quests ;< |
| 23:18.05 | Zeal | lol |
| 23:18.11 | Zeal | nvm, done |
| 23:21.36 | Zeal | 7 days to decide what i want for my bday... why couldn't there be decent slate style tablet pcs :/ |
| 23:23.22 | g0urra | ffs, an invisible wall in hyjal |
| 23:23.23 | g0urra | great |
| 23:23.52 | g0urra | as usual, auto-unstuck hearths.. |
| 23:25.29 | Zeal | yeah, i miss the old one |
| 23:25.40 | Zeal | but too many exploits |
| 23:28.04 | g0urra | well, it actually worked once |
| 23:28.08 | g0urra | ~wwquotes |
| 23:28.08 | infobot | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowwiki/irc-quotes |
| 23:28.25 | g0urra | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowwiki/irc-quotes?ids=256#quote-256 |
| 23:30.56 | Zeal | damn french :P |
| 23:31.22 | g0urra | idd |
| 23:33.26 | Adys | :( |
| 23:36.39 | Zeal | lol |
| 23:53.13 | g0urra | btw Zeal, those eggs in the cave do seem to be twilight eggs |
| 23:53.29 | Zeal | had no doubt. :p |
| 23:53.32 | g0urra | kd3 |
| 23:53.44 | g0urra | r u thar |
| 23:53.55 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:A_Bird_in_Hand scroll to the bottom |
| 23:55.49 | Sky2042 | um, wut |
| 23:57.03 | pcj | <Ask |
| 23:57.13 | pcj | stupid |
| 23:57.29 | pcj | fixed |
| 23:57.41 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 23:57.43 | Sky2042 | fail |
| 23:58.29 | g0urra | hurr |
| 23:59.12 | pcj | is anyone in US beta able to play? |
| 23:59.45 | Sky2042 | Lol, that's the only instance of <Ask on the entire wiki. |
