IRC log for #wowwiki on 20100726

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00:45.43pcjSky2042 did you figure out what caused the content portion of pages on the wowwiki skin to be hidden
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00:49.08RessyI'm getting it with the old wowwiki skin too
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00:49.33pcjyeah i just started getting it
00:49.35Ressysigh. finger slipped. >.<
00:49.41RessyYou using firefox?
00:49.46pcjno, chrome
00:50.55Ressyseems to be fine on crappy ie
00:51.21pcjinteresting
00:51.25pcjare you logged in on both?
00:51.45Ressyyeah
00:52.03Ressyjust logged into ie to test.
00:52.09RessyI use Firefox, and everything disappeared
00:52.14pcjwhat does http://wowwiki.com/__varnish_servername say for you
00:53.09RessyFF: varnish-i7-IOWA  IE: varnish-i7-IOWA
00:53.14pcjhmmm+
00:53.37pcjis it no content on every page for you
00:54.13RessyI get tabs on the top, and the bottom bar, and the side bar.  No main content.
00:54.21pcjyeah
00:54.24pcjsame here
00:55.27pcjah it's some CSS implemented by wikia
00:55.29pcji found it
00:57.01pcjput javascript:void($("#content").removeClass("content-ads"));
00:57.06pcjin your address bar and press enter
00:57.08pcjsee if that fixes it
01:03.31Ressyworks for chrome.  Nada for FF
01:03.54pcjhmm
01:04.46pcjdo you have adblock plus
01:04.52Ressyand it only works for 1 page on chrome.
01:04.57Ressyload a new page, content disappears again
01:05.12pcjyes it would only work for one page at a time
01:05.42Ressydisabled adblockplus in FF, FF works again
01:09.10pcji will see if I can get Wikia to change the name of that pesky class
01:09.20pcjsince that appears to be what ABP is flagging
01:12.55Sky2042Yeah, it's .content-ads triggering it.
01:13.28Sky2042$20 says they did it on purpose.
01:13.47pcjyeah...they only did it to the wowwiki skin not monaco
01:14.11Sky2042They did it to monobook too. #wikia has been seeing a few people with the same issue.
01:16.08pcjsince only logged in users get the non-monaco skins i see little point to call it content-ads
01:16.18Sky2042bahahaha.
01:16.32Sky2042Maybe they're still getting impressions?
01:16.41Sky2042With the new name*
01:16.46Sky2042Er, new class
01:16.58pcjhmm?
01:17.03pcjimpressions of what?
01:17.17pcjthere's no ads displayed on monobook or wowwiki skins...
01:18.00Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Eirik_Ratcatcher?useskin=monobook I see a big fat right margin there...
01:18.23Sky2042Either there are ads, or Wikia's lazy and hasn't fixed their monobook since they implemented the logged-in no-ads rule.
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01:18.45pcjthe right margin you mean?
01:18.49Sky2042mmhmm
01:18.58Ressyi see ads at the bottom now
01:20.11pcjpretty sure that's just inconsistently applied CSS
01:20.31pcjnot enough room for ads
01:20.49Sky2042They used to have skyscrapers on the right hand side.
01:21.50pcjwell i wouldn't put it past them
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01:27.57Sky2042Oh, shit, Sylvanas dies.
01:28.13pcjsnape kills her
01:28.26Sky2042But I thought Dumbledore killed Snape?
01:31.40pcjyeah and sylvanas is undead
01:31.58pcjhow do you kill that which has no life
01:32.28Sky2042Well, undead isn't exactly the state of death, hrp.
01:32.59g0urragives up
01:33.06pcjbut its not the state of being alive
01:33.09Sky2042laughs at g0urra.
01:33.38Sky2042Some things you can kill twice, it seems. Like the Forsaken. And apparently, the dreadlords.
01:37.56RessySo is there any way for a permanent fix pcj?
01:38.10pcji asked wikia to change it
01:38.16pcjfor now just whitelist that
01:38.27Ressyhow do I do that exactly? >.<
01:38.28Ressysorry
01:39.02pcjin firefox click view > ad block plus: view blockable items
01:39.08pcjselect the filter #content-ads
01:39.13pcjright-click it, click disable filter
01:40.13Ressyaweesome. thx ;)
01:43.26Sky2042is not looking forward to the T section of [[Category:Quest chains]]
01:44.32Sky2042joeyaa says there's a fix coming soon via Angela.
01:49.31pcjcurse you shark sinew
01:50.37pcjlol this fish
01:50.41pcjhas me in his mouth
02:11.26pcj"We're working on the ads thing. Its only affecting monobook, which does not get priority work, but it is filed. We're investigating the cause of, and how to change things in a way that still allow our ad system to work."
02:11.28pcj-uberfuzzy
02:12.44RessyIts affecting more than just monobook if its affecting a custom skin tho.
02:14.06pcji believe wowwiki imports a lot of monobook
02:14.21Sky2042^
02:14.40Sky2042I think it's basically the same skin, excepting a few things.
02:15.29Sky2042Hmm, wonder if we can bug Wikia to remove the Google search bar.
02:15.29pcjwell mainly the huge chunk of css designed for the wowwiki skin
02:15.56pcji doubt they will do non-bug work on wowwiki skin
02:16.53Sky2042I think we could swing it as bringing our skin a little closer to monobook.
02:21.49Sky2042om nom nom nom
02:35.38Sky2042goddamnit
02:35.56RessyI saw that on wikia.  lawl
02:36.22Sky2042I mean, really.
02:36.51Sky2042You want help, fine. Be prepared to be informed that what you're doing is stupid.
02:37.00Ressy*snickers*
02:37.12Sky2042And not linking the page he/she was working on.
02:37.14Sky2042Like, wtf.
02:37.24Sky2042UR DOIN IT RONG, BUB
02:37.39Sky2042Ressy: btw, "/me snickers." GO
02:38.00Ressyyeah yeah. I know.
02:38.14Sky2042chides Ressy.
02:38.43Sky2042kills Ressolute for making me type Ressy's full name out instead of being able to tab-complete it.
02:38.50CooobraI can never find the correct policy when i'm forced to link to it...
02:38.57pcjok guys i have 13 tables nested inside each other how do i position them correctly to one pixel on the page?
02:39.13Ressolute:o
02:39.16Ressylol Sky
02:39.20RessoluteLazy ass
02:39.21Sky2042Ressy: That said, the "goddamnit" was based on my fail at editing, and not my non-fail when dealing with #wikia denizens.
02:39.28Sky2042Ressolute: You fuckin' betcha'.
02:39.51Sky2042pcj: Hrp drp, use CSS, sarcastic.
02:40.07Sky2042Cooobra: What policy were you thinking, or did you find it?
02:40.45Cooobrathe one thats talk about not having location articles starting with "The"
02:40.57Sky2042WW:NAME would be a good start.
02:41.06Cooobralooked there... can't seem to find it
02:41.56pcjWW:NOA
02:41.56Cooobra... nvm, I see it under Other
02:42.08Cooobrathank you pcj
02:42.11Cooobralol
02:42.58Sky2042splits out that rule to its own subsection.
02:43.49Sky2042Um, apparently applies to quest articles?
02:43.51Sky2042wut?
02:43.57Sky2042missed that memo.
02:44.14pcjother articles
02:44.19pcjnot quest articles
02:44.21pcjpay attention
02:44.32Cooobrameow?
02:44.52Sky2042#Definite and indefinite articles: "This applies to, quest articles, titles of books, games, and similar works. "
02:45.00Sky2042I just copy-pasted from where it used to be.
02:45.41pcjit was under other articles
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02:45.48pcjyou moved it to all articles
02:45.49pcjdork
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02:46.12Sky2042pcj: Read what I just wrote plzkthx.
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02:46.49pcj"This applies to" refers to the exception
02:46.56pcjThere is an important exception to this rule: "the", "a" or "an" is included when it would be capitalized if it appeared in text.
02:47.35Sky2042rages about people not specifying a noun after "this", "these", and co.
02:48.15Sky2042pcj: Don't do that. D:
02:49.31pcjSky2042: that rule doesn't apply to all pages
02:49.53Sky2042Which ones doesn't it apply to which aren't specified already above?
02:50.03pcjit only applies to "other articles"
02:50.09Sky2042Exactly.
02:50.17Sky2042"Other articles" is a section that shouldn't exist.
02:50.28pcjwhy not
02:50.59Sky2042Because the name of the section is #Naming conventions for specific article types.
02:51.01Sky2042Duh.
02:51.44pcjand the specific article type is "other article", e.g., article not specifically indicated
02:51.46Sky2042Which implies that all the rules at the bottom apply for every other article.
02:52.01pcjno the rules at the bottom apply for every article
02:52.18Sky2042:|
02:56.07CooobraI'm going to block you two from editing if you continue your edit warring =P
02:56.44Sky2042blinks at Cooobra.
02:56.53Cooobranow thats a turtle model  http://www.wowwiki.com/File:Tortolla.jpg
02:57.11pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Spelunking
02:57.14pcji suck
02:57.18pcjwhere is the freaking cave entrance
02:57.41Cooobraunderwater I assume
02:58.27pcjoh ok thats very helpful thank
02:58.29pcjyou
02:58.46Sky2042lol
02:59.32Cooobraglad I could help ya
03:00.13Cooobrahey sky.. I decided I don't like the <zone> <faction> quest NPCs categories
03:01.16Cooobrainfact .. the whole system needs a purge
03:02.01CooobraI say.... we nuke them from orbit, it's the only way to be sure
03:02.04Sky2042Wait, so you're telling me something I knew weeks ago?
03:02.10Sky2042Like the Protoss did to Char?
03:02.15pcjusing a shark to eat naga = best quest ever
03:02.23Cooobraspoiler pcj
03:02.36CooobraI prefer the freakin lazer beams
03:03.04pcjyou're right Cooobra i should have saved that for when g0urra was here
03:03.11Cooobralol
03:03.27Sky2042lol
03:03.54Cooobrayou see that huge silithid colossus in un'goro?
03:04.07pcjYES
03:04.16pcjand then i tried to fly into uldum
03:04.25Cooobradenied
03:04.32pcjyeah
03:04.33Sky2042LOL
03:07.02CooobraI say we attach the Quest givers category to {{queststart}} and {{queststartfinish}} then attach the Quest enders category to {{questfinish}}... then delete every other type we made in this process
03:07.18Cooobraand be done with it
03:09.03Sky2042Don't like it because 1) qstart and co need to be merged and 2) those aren't used anywhere and enough and 3) I still haven't decided if I even like them to begin with. :|
03:09.20Sky2042Ummm....
03:09.34Cooobra... lets just say screw it... no one uses the quest givers and quest enders categories to actually find articles.. lets just delete it all
03:09.56Sky2042"no one" uses them?
03:09.58Sky2042Chill, you.
03:10.20Cooobrahave you actually used it before?
03:10.21Sky2042That's a lot of metadata just going poof that we already have infrastructure for.
03:10.34Sky2042Would my evidence be anecdotal? Yes.
03:10.42pcjIt's too bad there isn't some sort of semantic mediawiki extension
03:10.52Sky2042It's too bad Wikia is scared to enable it here.
03:10.54Ressylol
03:11.12pcjhave you asked them
03:11.30Sky2042I asked Kirkburn and he was like "oh, have a community discussion first". I was like, wtf.
03:11.39pcjok this is the community discussion
03:11.42pcjall in favor?
03:11.44Sky2042:D :D :D
03:11.48Ressysure
03:11.50Sky2042is in favor.
03:11.59Cooobrais in flavor
03:12.11Sky2042eats Cooobra. MMMM, tastes like chicken.
03:12.11Ressychocolate?
03:12.29Cooobrayes
03:12.48Cooobraa chocolate snake that tastes like chicken
03:13.12Ressypsh.  I prefer my chocolate tasting like chocolate
03:13.19Ressygoes off to find her snickers bar.
03:13.35Sky2042In other words, Kirkburn basically pussy-footed when I asked him. I think the actual excuse was "Oh, server guys would need to see evidence of community approval" or something like that.
03:13.37Sky2042It made me rage.
03:13.43Sky2042rages at the memory.
03:13.59pcjnever ask kirkburn for stuff you want done
03:14.23Sky2042Unless it's on his user talk page, where he can't get away from us. MUAHAHA
03:14.48pcjanyway i sent the e-mail we'll see what someone who matters says
03:15.08pcjif they do want community discussion we just pop a quick forum page wait a week and boom
03:15.19CooobraBOOM
03:15.22Sky2042BOOOOOOM
03:15.38Sky2042Speaking of WoW, "STV" just came up on iTunes.
03:17.06CooobraHmm?
03:17.26Sky2042Stranglethorn Vale, from the WoW cd.
03:17.37Sky2042is nostalgian.
03:18.23Cooobrais hungry
03:19.40Cooobrahmm... so twilight highlands is now open?
03:20.36Cooobrabrb, dog needs attention
03:21.28pcjkinky
03:28.48Cooobrahey now
03:45.19pcjaww no seahorse for me :(
03:45.33Cooobracamels are better
03:46.04CooobraI'd rather a shark mount anyway
03:46.45pcji imagine the shark with the laser attached to its head will be a blizzard store thing
03:47.04pcjalso it will be transparent and made of stars
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03:48.10Eraclitodoesn't the fishing turtle mount speed have any speed increase in underwater only zones?
03:49.04pcji tried it
03:49.08pcjit didn't seem to help
03:49.25pcjit's only 60% though so maybe i just suck
03:49.34pcji would have to have an addon to tell i guess
03:50.02Cooobraaye.. its only 60%
03:50.22Cooobrabut .. faster than nothing
03:50.27Eraclitowell the % is a bit weird
03:50.35Eraclitobecause it's swimming speed + 60% of swimming speed
03:51.02Eraclitolike on mounts, it's run speed + % of run speed
03:51.28Cooobrayea... so you're basically walking underwater
03:51.33Eraclitoexactly
03:51.46Cooobrafaster than a druid though lol
03:52.12Eraclitouhm i think glyphed aquatic form is slightly faster
03:52.16Eraclitoi don't use my druid much anymore
03:52.35Cooobraand whats up with druids not getting a faster form... and one that attacks with abilities underwater... Shark Form
03:53.42Cooobrahunters need a new aspect too ... Aspect of the Sea Snake
03:54.13pcjonly if warriors get Facepalm Stance
03:54.14Cooobrawould be nice cheetah, cept underwater... ooohhh aahhh
03:54.19Eraclitowarriors will have something like "shark grip, you can duel wield sharks but they don't have teeth"
03:54.54CooobraIf a mage opens a portal underwater.. can they flood a city
03:55.29pcjhaha that would be awesome, summon some low level person who hasn't done the quest yet, to the bottom of the ocean
03:55.55Cooobrathose were the days... back when they only had a 1minute of breath
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07:49.32Elunagourra isn't here! We can finally talk about Cataclysm!
07:49.34Eluna:P
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12:38.33pcjhi g0urra
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12:46.47pcjthats so crazy i can't believe milhouse is a twilight cultist
12:56.07pcjhaha goblin shaman
13:07.23Eraclitobut i liked milhouse manastorm
13:07.37Eraclitowe need more gnomes
13:09.44pcjwtf is up with a trinket that gives +167 agility
13:09.46pcjso boring
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13:14.42pcjstupid beta lag
13:20.04pcjheheh that would be a good guild name, <I'm on a Seahorse>
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17:20.59Eraclitoguys, i have some issues with wowwiki
17:21.12charitwopcj is the official complain dept
17:21.26g0urrayeah now that Fisker has passed away
17:21.33Eraclito:P
17:21.44Eraclitoif i'm logged in, i can't see anything
17:22.04charitwohave you cleared your cache
17:22.16Eraclitoi logged out and in, and... i didn't :> ok i try
17:22.43Eraclitook, i still have the problem
17:22.51Eraclitoi can only see the left and the top menu
17:22.52g0urraEraclito: disable adblockplus
17:22.54charitwoblame crucially then
17:23.04Eraclitog0urra, but i like adblockplus :>
17:23.06charitwog0urra: you're a MADMAN
17:23.12g0urrajust on wowwiki
17:23.14g0urrasheesh
17:23.16g0urraslaps charitwo around a bit with a large trout
17:23.18Eraclitook, i did
17:23.28Eraclitobut if i'm logged out, it works and i can see everything
17:23.35g0urrawhy would you log out
17:24.02Eraclitodunno, but if it's a block against adblock, it should be more useful if it works on guests too
17:24.13g0urrawhat
17:24.36Eraclitoit isn't?
17:24.48RessyEraclito: go into adblock's settings, find ##.content-ads and disable the checkmark beside it
17:24.52Eraclitoanyway, thanks for your help
17:24.56Ressyit'll bring wowwiki back
17:25.39g0urra^
17:26.04Ressypcj told me about that yesterday. :)
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18:26.10g0urrawhy is there a "Quest ID" in questbox
18:27.26Ackiswhy not?
18:29.11g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Challenge
18:29.25g0urrawhy would there be "Quest ID" in the infobox when there's external links at the bottom
18:31.07Ackisit's at the top of the page, doesn't require me to hover over a hyperlink to get the ID and can be used for future implementation (aka auto generating those links?) and addon specific stuff
18:32.48g0urrauh in case you haven't noticed, we've had external links in questbox
18:33.03g0urraI think they were removed because they weren't deemed necessary because of the external links already at the bottom
18:33.59AckisJust was throwing it out there as reasons why :P nothing on a wiki is 100% right
18:34.26foxlitDisplaying it is silly, but nothing is hurt by passing it anyway
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18:38.20g0urratwitches at the use of ref game for WoW
18:38.37charitwoare you in beta g0urra?
18:38.41Ressyshhh
18:38.43Ressydon't ask him that
18:38.44Ressy>.<
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18:39.01g0urraanyone else?
18:40.01VenkoHuh? What's happening?
18:41.02Ressypoor g0urra. :(
18:41.37Ressyyou're not alone tho.  Many addon authors can't get in because the key redemption is bugged.
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18:42.18Gnarfozthat's been fixed earlier today, ressy
18:42.35g0urratwitches
18:42.47VenkoIt's a weekly thing, isn't it? Every week the new batch of keys seems to have a problem.
18:42.57Gnarfozit wasn't the keys
18:43.06Gnarfozand I haven't heard of the previous keys having any problems
18:43.07Ressywas battle.net apparently
18:43.42VenkoWell, I got into the beta with a press key a few weeks ago. Every key issued then had problems and it took a few days for Blizz to fix it
18:43.47AckisGnarfoz: the last batch of keys sent out is now working?
18:43.58GnarfozAckis: it was not the keys... :F
18:44.10Gnarfozand yes, they work now ;p
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18:44.21g0urrahrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
18:44.30g0urra"It should be about a day or two but you should be able to get in soon."
18:44.32g0urrasent on friday
18:44.35g0urrafucking EU team
18:45.10VenkoWell, to be fair, they've having loads of problems with the latest patch they released too so they must have a lot on their plates at the moment
18:45.37VenkoLast I checked the European cata realm wasn't working anyway so you're just missing out on an error message
18:45.55g0urraso whatever happens I'm still fucked?
18:46.06g0urrathis pisses me off
18:46.06foxlitYes.
18:46.16foxlitYou cannot play cataclysm. Ever.
18:46.36Ackisgoes afk to log into the beta to get g0urra some quest ID #'s
18:46.52g0urrayou two are so close to get out of here..
18:46.57VenkoIt's a different bug to before then? As in you don't get Cataclysm added to your battle.net account at all?
18:47.26g0urrathe bug is in the blizz EU HQ
18:47.29g0urralots of bugs there
18:47.48g0urrathey call themselves humans but I'm not sure
18:47.51g0urraalso french
18:48.01g0urragoddamn I hate french
18:48.08g0urrastole my camera when I went to WWI in '08
18:48.12Ackiscomment ca vas g0urra?
18:48.15g0urrahundreds of pictures gone
18:50.17g0urraAckis: what?
18:50.37AckisI was speaking french :P
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18:51.13g0urraI knew there was something wrong
18:51.56Ackisoui
18:52.57g0urrawhy are you still talking?
18:53.07Ackisje ne sais pas
18:53.45AckisI'm not actually french :P
18:54.36Ressyfrench sucks.   Especially after 11 yrs of training. blah
18:55.00g0urraAckis: even if you speak french you're a despicable human being
18:55.02g0urrano offense
18:55.11RessySo.. All Canadians are despicable? :(
18:55.17Ressywe're forced to learn that godawful language
18:55.23Ackisno we aren't
18:55.54RessyI was forced to take french from grade 3 to grade 9
18:56.05Ressyno choice in the matter.
18:56.27Ackisfrench wasn't offered as a choice until grade 7 for me
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18:56.37g0urracanada is an exception because 1) canada isn't in europe 2) I know someone from canada
18:57.02Ackisyou know me g0urra
18:57.10g0urrano I don't
18:57.17Ackisoh
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19:40.03Sky2042Way to miss that spam guy! :D
19:40.15Sky2042guys*
19:43.13Venko?
19:43.14g0urrahm?
19:43.36Sky2042g0urra: Just deleted it all. It's been on wiki for 4 hours now. D:
19:44.16g0urra4?
19:44.18g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Special:DeletedContributions/Romero3215
19:44.27g0urra12.5
19:44.28Sky2042Oh, 2.
19:44.30g0urra13.5*
19:44.34Sky2042Oh, yeah.
19:44.43Sky2042Slowpokes.
19:44.45g0urraI wasn't awake then so I didn't see it
19:45.00g0urraslept until 2:30pm heh
19:45.22Dottedfu g0urra
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19:45.33Sky2042Dotted: Go be dotoff kthx.
19:45.44Dotted:(
19:49.56g0urradie lootbox on quest pages, die
19:50.24Sky2042lootbox > itembox kthx.
19:50.45Sky2042Also, we need to add class to questlong
19:50.53Sky2042And get rid of questclass.
19:52.18g0urraitembox > lootbox kthx.
19:52.41Sky2042No.
19:52.46g0urrayes.
19:53.00Sky2042Itembox (and Item) is a bastardization of the transclusion process. It needs to diaf.
19:53.43g0urranobody cares
19:53.56g0urraabout it being a bastardization
19:54.00g0urraimo it stays
19:54.00g0urra=3
19:54.02Sky2042Hrp drp, somebody does, else he wouldn't be bitching about it.
19:55.04g0urrawho's "he"
19:55.21Sky2042Me, drp.
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19:58.10Sky2042Also, do want vector.css.
20:00.01Sky2042wonders if he has cash.
20:01.56g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?diff=2338154&oldid=2131010&rcid=2344494
20:02.03g0urra8 months.
20:02.20Sky2042lol
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23:09.38pcjSky2042_afk, Ressy and whoever else cares:
23:09.48pcjWikia will implement SMW on WoWWiki with some limitations
23:09.51Sky2042_afkpcj: You have impeccable timing good sir.
23:09.54Sky2042_afkOh?
23:10.08pcjdon't create queries that return the entire freaking database
23:10.16pcjSpecial:Ask will be disabled
23:10.25pcjthat's about it
23:11.01pcjnow on to my impeccability and good timing and other greatness
23:11.40Sky2042Uhm... uh... I'm silenced by your greatness.
23:12.33pcjwell what did you need
23:14.15Sky2042Oh, I didn't actually need anything. You literally pinged me just as I got back from being afk for the past 2 hours.
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23:14.53pcjkd3 btw they're going to enable SMW
23:26.28Sky2042pauses to wonder why there isn't an infobox class present on the wiki.
23:26.31Sky2042swears.
23:29.14Sky2042So wait, Wikia wants to enable SMW crippled...?
23:29.16Sky2042Fail.
23:29.24pcjit's not really crippled
23:30.07pcjwe just have to create the forms to do queries
23:30.07Sky2042Special:Ask is a pretty big thing to say you're not adding.
23:30.48pcji think admins can use special:ask
23:30.55pcjthey just want to refrain from having users use it
23:31.03Sky2042:/
23:31.14pcjit's all about CPU usage
23:31.21pcjdynamic query building
23:31.24pcjsucks the CPU
23:31.30Sky2042Of course it does.
23:31.43Sky2042I'm well aware of that side of things. Doesn't make me not want to rage.
23:32.08pcjit's reasonable, i think we can get along without it
23:32.57g0urra* Sky2042 pauses to wonder why there isn't an infobox class present on the wiki.
23:33.02g0urrafirst you have to deal with the HUEG box
23:33.10Sky2042hmm?
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23:33.26Sky2042What hueg box [sic]?
23:34.29Sky2042pokes g0urra for explanation.
23:34.37pcjwonders how to notate a misquote in which the original quote was incorrectly spelled
23:34.52g0urraclassnav
23:34.55pcjindeed
23:35.12Sky2042g0urra: Why would I have to deal with classnav...?
23:35.21Sky2042is still missing some context, hethinks.
23:35.44g0urrafacepalms
23:35.48g0urrawhere are you going to put the infobox
23:35.55Sky2042......
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23:36.12pcjk
23:36.52pcjSky2042 as long as it doesn't end up looking like http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Wowbox i'm fine with it
23:36.55Sky2042Hmm, we could find out how many male and female NPCs there are.
23:37.09Sky2042pcj: lol, no, it'd be closer to darktable.
23:37.24pcji seriously want that template to die
23:37.36Sky2042There's only 25 uses...
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23:37.52Sky2042So why not kill it?
23:37.57pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Wowbox/Begin
23:38.01pcjit's not just wowbox
23:38.08pcjsome people use it piecemeal
23:39.06Sky2042A job for AWB imo.
23:51.41pcjbut what to replace it with?
23:53.35Sky2042<nowiki>s all around if the page isn't in the main, server, or guild-space.
23:54.01Sky2042It shouldn't be used currently in mainspace.
23:54.11Sky2042I saw a few in guildspace, and there's a guildbox you can use.
23:54.30Sky2042Serverspace... kind of meh. Not real sure what to recommend.

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