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| 00:29.03 | undecided | What is the best realm for play value for a newbie? |
| 00:29.56 | g0urra | depends on what you mean by "play value" |
| 00:30.49 | g0urra | lol Bibi- |
| 00:30.53 | g0urra | another housing bluepost |
| 00:30.59 | g0urra | I wonder if people can read |
| 00:31.31 | undecided | OK, let me put it this way, if I chose normal or RP am I permanently stuck on those realms or can i transfer to PVP later on after getgna feel for the game? |
| 00:31.52 | undecided | getting a feel ^ |
| 00:32.00 | Sandwichman2448 | You can not transfer /from/ PvP... |
| 00:32.12 | undecided | thank you |
| 00:32.20 | g0urra | uh |
| 00:32.54 | g0urra | Sandwichman2448, what year are you thinking in |
| 00:32.58 | g0urra | I thought that was fixed |
| 00:33.05 | Sandwichman2448 | Not sure about the other way. [[Paid_Character_Transfer_Service]] |
| 00:33.06 | Dotted | Sandwichman2448 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Paid_Character_Transfer_Service |
| 00:33.25 | Sandwichman2448 | 200FAIL |
| 00:33.53 | undecided | So if ispent a year playing a game ona relam and levelign up or whatever, and decide to take my character to a more "pro" level I can do so for a price? |
| 00:34.12 | nms | yes |
| 00:34.29 | g0urra | there's no such thing as a "pro" level |
| 00:34.29 | undecided | I hate this keyboard, thank you nms |
| 00:34.32 | nms | unless you're an avid RP fanatic i'd suggest starting off on a Normal realm |
| 00:34.58 | undecided | I mean pro level as in experienced users going all out PVP as opposed to being in pve forever |
| 00:35.25 | nms | a lot of people go all out PvE and don't care about PvP even though they're on PvP realms |
| 00:37.18 | g0urra | there's no such thing as pvp outside wintergrasp and battlegrounds |
| 00:37.18 | nms | chances are you'll start thinking about rolling another class/race/faction once you start to understand the game, and then you can also reevaluate your realm choice |
| 00:38.04 | undecided | and that wouldnt cost any extra money? |
| 00:38.27 | undecided | Sorry if I'm annoying I hadnt had time or resources to start getting into this game till now |
| 00:38.30 | nms | g0urra: there's always XR and Grom'Gol; alliance always attacking, horde always defending |
| 00:38.55 | nms | undecided: you may roll up to ten characters per realm, up to 50 in total |
| 00:39.03 | g0urra | ^for free |
| 00:39.04 | nms | per account |
| 00:39.04 | undecided | Do all the realms have learning curves? |
| 00:39.18 | undecided | interesting so I'm not stuck with my first character and realm |
| 00:39.20 | g0urra | XR I know but Grom'gol? never heard of it being attacked |
| 00:39.31 | nms | there's no difference between the realms as far as content go except the added adventure on PvP realms |
| 00:40.02 | g0urra | and the [[carebear]]s on PvE realms |
| 00:40.03 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/carebear |
| 00:40.05 | nms | g0urra: it's attacked on a daily basis on Xavius |
| 00:40.26 | undecided | lol carebear |
| 00:40.56 | nms | is there any other difference between PvP and PvE realms than the automatic PvP flagging in contested zones? |
| 00:41.08 | g0urra | no |
| 00:41.08 | Sandwichman2448 | not really? |
| 00:41.19 | g0urra | no |
| 00:41.38 | g0urra | except that there might be more rogues on PvP realms |
| 00:41.47 | Sandwichman2448 | Sometimes, I feel I should just stop talking/typing. |
| 00:41.51 | g0urra | don't |
| 00:42.02 | undecided | so how about user interaction with other players, any limits? or is PVE simply solo act? |
| 00:42.15 | nms | g0urra: i think there's more of everyone on PvP realms |
| 00:42.27 | g0urra | I was thinking % |
| 00:42.31 | nms | undecided: no difference |
| 00:42.57 | Sandwichman2448 | PvE groups for quests, but everyone is grinding to high-end content now. |
| 00:43.03 | nms | undecided: Player vs Environment doesn't necessarily mean just one player |
| 00:43.30 | undecided | high end content? |
| 00:43.50 | nms | lvl 80 endgame |
| 00:44.02 | nms | Icecrown Citadel, killing the Lich King etc |
| 00:44.10 | g0urra | 9% are rogues on PvP servers |
| 00:44.17 | g0urra | 8% are rogues on PvE servers |
| 00:44.20 | g0urra | see?!??!?! |
| 00:44.28 | g0urra | !!111oneonetwo |
| 00:44.34 | nms | eleven |
| 00:44.39 | undecided | So very few people on the original WoW, most are going to the newer counterparts? |
| 00:44.51 | Sandwichman2448 | Raids, level 80 dungeons, mostly ICC. |
| 00:45.05 | Sandwichman2448 | Wait for Cataclysm. |
| 00:45.33 | nms | undecided: you're not really getting your full monthly subscription fees worth of gaming if you don't buy the expansions |
| 00:45.47 | nms | you pay the same monthly fee but only get half the content |
| 00:45.50 | g0urra | ^ |
| 00:46.05 | g0urra | well, more likely 2/3 |
| 00:47.28 | nms | undecided: when i write to you like this, with your name first on the line it's not a private message, so please don't send me private messages |
| 00:47.32 | undecided | so beinga carebear would suck? |
| 00:48.07 | nms | that cgi-irc thingy seems to confuse a lot of people regarding PMs |
| 00:48.18 | undecided | its casue your name changed to orange |
| 00:48.46 | undecided | which seems to think reply specifically to that name |
| 00:48.49 | nms | that's highlighting so you'll notice messages adressed to you |
| 00:49.00 | undecided | ah |
| 00:49.05 | undecided | thank you |
| 00:49.08 | nms | it's not your fault, you're not the first one to misinterpret |
| 00:49.41 | undecided | other chat things i went to messages for me were highlighted entirely not pmd either |
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| 00:50.49 | undecided | about how much are the fees to transfer a character from say pve to pvp or to rp? |
| 00:50.49 | nms | if you plan on sticking around here for help or simply casual chatting i suggest you install a suitable IRC client for your OS |
| 00:51.11 | Sandwichman2448 | Me? |
| 00:51.16 | undecided | i used to have mirc and pirch |
| 00:51.23 | Sandwichman2448 | Oh. |
| 00:51.24 | nms | paid character transfers are â¬20/character on EU, dunno about US |
| 00:52.31 | undecided | lets see if I got it |
| 00:53.00 | undecided | nms: just enter like this? |
| 00:53.11 | nms | there you go |
| 00:53.18 | nms | looks awesome |
| 00:53.29 | undecided | interesting |
| 00:54.12 | undecided | so I can have different characters all includded with current subscription on different realms? |
| 00:54.21 | nms | yes |
| 00:54.33 | nms | or on the same realm if you want to |
| 00:54.52 | undecided | so there will be a prompt to create new character the nselct realm for second character? |
| 00:55.02 | nms | no |
| 00:55.03 | undecided | ugh sorry bout the typos |
| 00:55.09 | nms | first you select a realm to play in |
| 00:55.12 | nms | on* |
| 00:55.21 | nms | then you click "create character" |
| 00:55.48 | nms | pick a name, race, class, some visual traits and then accept |
| 00:55.58 | undecided | so each boot, pick realm first then select an existign character or create one |
| 00:56.15 | nms | the game client will select you last used realm by default |
| 00:56.54 | nms | there's a button to bring up the realm list if you want to play on another realm |
| 00:57.03 | undecided | ah, k |
| 00:57.33 | nms | you should download the client and create a trial account |
| 00:57.44 | nms | then you'll have ten days to try stuff out before you decide |
| 00:57.45 | undecided | and what about recommending a keyboard, one that can keep up with fast typing too not "fsta tyingp oto" |
| 00:58.13 | nms | you don't really need to type fast to play this game |
| 00:58.22 | undecided | not just for the game |
| 00:58.27 | nms | unless you want to keep up with the drama in the ingame chat channels |
| 00:58.54 | undecided | im suppsoed to get an external due to physical therapy and i type a lot i other stuff, i figured id get a gaming one too and kill more needs at once |
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| 00:59.22 | undecided | acklit prefere |
| 00:59.24 | undecided | ugh |
| 00:59.27 | undecided | backlit |
| 01:00.00 | nms | my personal opinion is that gaming keyboards are rippoffs unless you really really need your keys marked with what they do ingame instead of just characters and numbers |
| 01:00.56 | undecided | i was hoping that it would be possible to macro photoshop and illustrator command strings into single buttons like converting raster to vector |
| 01:01.09 | nms | i use a ten year old Logitech cordless keyboard and a five year old Logitech MX1000 cordless mouse, and they work just fine with everything i do |
| 01:03.26 | g0urra | <3 MX1000 |
| 01:04.30 | nms | i'm actually thinking about getting an MX Air, but i need to find a store that'll let me try it out and see how it feels before i spend all that cash |
| 01:05.31 | undecided | Thank you all for the help |
| 01:05.37 | g0urra | np |
| 01:05.44 | undecided | I'm still undecided heh |
| 01:05.51 | nms | obviously |
| 01:06.10 | nms | but as i said, get a trial account and try the game out for free before you make up your mind |
| 01:06.14 | nms | that's what they're for |
| 01:06.26 | undecided | i dont want it to be disneyland at same time I don't want killed like i ngroundhog day movie |
| 01:06.42 | undecided | ive already bought the game and subscribed |
| 01:06.55 | undecided | got it instead of getting cable |
| 01:07.38 | nms | are you on US or EU btw? |
| 01:07.54 | undecided | My lack of culture isn't obvious? |
| 01:07.58 | undecided | American |
| 01:08.30 | nms | i'm EU, it's 02:08 here, do you really think i care about culture right now? :) |
| 01:08.40 | undecided | good point |
| 01:09.18 | undecided | I don't want to reside with carebears pernanently I know that |
| 01:10.41 | undecided | Quests exist in every part of game, cept in pvp stuff you can get attacked basically any point inside and outside of quests? |
| 01:11.17 | nms | well... |
| 01:11.42 | nms | there are three basic types of zones; friendly, contested and hostile |
| 01:12.26 | nms | in friendly zones you're never flagged for PvP (= killable by players of the opposing faction) unless you want to |
| 01:13.00 | nms | in contested zones you're always flagged for PvP if you're on a PvP realm, and only by choice on PvE realms |
| 01:13.09 | nms | in enemy zones you're always flagged |
| 01:13.50 | nms | trust me, it will become a lot clearer once you start moving around in the game |
| 01:14.52 | nms | install the game, start it, log in, create a toon, bring out the potato chips and coca cola and start playing |
| 01:15.25 | nms | and if you have a job, school or any other sort of social engagement i suggest you put a clock next to your keyboard |
| 01:15.39 | undecided | none, pretty much why i decided to do this |
| 01:16.14 | nms | same here, i stopped playing three years ago because i got a full time job, started playing again four month ago when i got laid off |
| 01:17.39 | undecided | i can't help but think im going to paly this get ready to leave teh saftey zone and never get past level 10 because of pvp type things, which pvp adds to the game play once a character can hold its own better |
| 01:18.45 | nms | you're pretty much safe up until at least lvl 20, which should take you at least a week or two since you've never done it before |
| 01:19.38 | undecided | so fora social add to the game which woud be a better realm choice? |
| 01:19.42 | nms | besides; getting killed by another player isn't really more of a setback than ghost running from the nearest graveyard to your corpse |
| 01:20.24 | nms | socially it doesn't really matter, except possibly that there are more people playing on PvP realms than any other type realm |
| 01:20.56 | nms | but an averagely populated realm will be just as social whether or not it's PvE or PvP |
| 01:21.37 | nms | unless you're really into role playing i suggest you stay away from the RP realms |
| 01:22.56 | undecided | sometiems RP would be cool but i don't think i could do it constantly |
| 01:23.27 | undecided | Sorry again i jsut hate making uninformed decisions because im usually stuck with whatever i choose |
| 01:25.39 | undecided | im glad to hear i can tranfer into different realms later on |
| 01:26.37 | nms | you can change pretty much everything about your characters as long as you can pay for it |
| 01:26.51 | nms | name, looks, class, race, faction, realm |
| 01:33.07 | undecided | I'll probably choose PvP unless it makes following the story a pain in the arse |
| 01:33.35 | nms | make no difference whatsoever |
| 01:33.54 | undecided | good |
| 01:34.42 | undecided | I'll leave ya alone now, thanks for the info |
| 01:35.39 | nms | no problem :) |
| 01:35.44 | nms | welcome back anytime |
| 01:50.21 | joeyaa | âââ |
| 01:54.16 | Sandwichman2448 | I have no idea about this. Can anyone help with: http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Sandwichman2448#This_is_surprisingly_odd... |
| 01:57.36 | foxlit | You should roll a paladin, level it to 80, then get some spellpower gear and check. |
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| 02:02.22 | pcj | or just mess around with rawr |
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| 13:36.22 | pcj | fisker http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/news/?d=2010-2#171100 |
| 13:37.01 | Fisker | hey pcj |
| 13:58.02 | Fisker | HEY PCJ |
| 13:58.18 | pcj | hi |
| 13:59.09 | Fisker | why so Fisker? |
| 14:12.06 | g0urra | why so Risker |
| 14:12.30 | g0urra | hey Fisker |
| 14:12.33 | g0urra | are you in beta? |
| 14:12.34 | g0urra | :3 |
| 14:13.19 | Fisker | no g0urra |
| 14:13.20 | Fisker | are you? |
| 14:13.33 | g0urra | maybe~ |
| 14:13.57 | Fisker | maybe you should get me a damn invite :( |
| 14:15.12 | g0urra | maybe not |
| 14:15.20 | g0urra | good timing, I just got a new comp |
| 14:17.25 | Fisker | do it g0urra |
| 14:17.48 | Fisker | atleast hook a brother up |
| 14:19.02 | Fisker | but get this g0urra |
| 14:19.11 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AhEIWTjMig#t=3m2s |
| 14:19.24 | Fisker | he has a beta key |
| 14:22.22 | g0urra | "ok" |
| 14:24.01 | g0urra | <Fisker> As your future king and my rite of succession i order you to give me a beta key |
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| 14:31.02 | foxlit | That is some pretty horrible grammar. |
| 14:31.15 | foxlit | and/or spelling. |
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| 14:39.58 | pcj | mainly grammar |
| 14:41.26 | Fisker | fuck you pcj |
| 14:41.28 | Fisker | actuall |
| 14:41.30 | Fisker | actually |
| 14:41.32 | Fisker | fuck you foxlit |
| 14:41.43 | Fisker | you got beta foxlit ? |
| 14:41.55 | pcj | fisker everyone has beta except you |
| 14:41.56 | foxlit | I've got echo. |
| 14:42.26 | pcj | that would be funnier if beta were a part of the phonetic alphabet |
| 14:42.41 | foxlit | Indeed. I might have to amend that. |
| 14:46.09 | Fisker | But did you get into the sc2 beta foxlit? |
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| 15:31.14 | Fisker | hey pcj |
| 15:31.19 | Fisker | ready to (t)roll out? |
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| 16:44.31 | g0urra | Fiskeriskerisker |
| 16:47.55 | Fisker | hey g0urra |
| 16:48.03 | Fisker | up for a match? |
| 17:07.33 | Fisker | damnit g0urra |
| 17:07.36 | Fisker | as your future king |
| 17:08.30 | g0urra | s/king/bitch/ |
| 17:09.31 | g0urra | so Fisker |
| 17:09.35 | g0urra | how is SC2 |
| 17:12.03 | Fisker | dunno yet |
| 17:14.12 | g0urra | I thought you got a beta invite |
| 17:14.16 | g0urra | anyway it's awesome |
| 17:14.17 | g0urra | brb |
| 17:18.13 | Bibi | g0urra |
| 17:18.21 | Bibi | blue tracker issue should be fixed today fyi |
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| 17:44.23 | g0urra | k Bibi |
| 17:52.11 | Fisker | so there i was g0urra |
| 17:52.16 | Fisker | thinking i'm awesome |
| 17:52.23 | Fisker | i did hold my ground but i still lost :( |
| 17:52.32 | g0urra | the game |
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| 17:53.05 | Fisker | why do you stalk Bibi Marla? |
| 17:53.40 | Alram | cuz i want to have steam secks with him |
| 17:53.50 | Alram | why do you? |
| 17:55.00 | Fisker | regular secks |
| 17:56.06 | Alram | k |
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| 20:57.44 | g0urra | Fisker |
| 21:03.16 | Fisker | g0urra |
| 21:03.21 | g0urra | hi |
| 21:03.32 | Fisker | hey |
| 21:03.44 | Fisker | you asking me out? |
| 21:25.34 | g0urra | nah Fisker |
| 21:25.43 | g0urra | just wondering if you're playing beta too |
| 21:27.12 | Fisker | not now |
| 21:27.13 | Fisker | raiding |
| 21:27.27 | Fisker | what's your nick? |
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| 21:36.56 | Fisker | slaps g0urra around a bit with a large trout |
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| 21:47.33 | Fisker | slaps g0urra around a bit with a large trout |
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| 22:03.31 | Fisker | g0urra |
| 22:03.33 | Fisker | you must answer me |
| 22:03.41 | g0urra | answer what |
| 22:05.05 | nms | 22:27:27 < Fisker> what's your nick? |
| 22:07.43 | g0urra | nick where |
| 22:09.44 | nms | no idea |
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| 22:20.06 | g0urra | !jobqueue |
| 22:23.42 | charitwo | ~jobqueue |
| 22:23.43 | infobot | The job queue length is currently OVER NINE THOUSAAAAND |
| 22:30.20 | Fisker | in sc2 g0urra |
| 22:30.40 | g0urra | lol Fisker |
| 22:30.49 | g0urra | you actually believe I got in sc2 beta? |
| 22:30.51 | g0urra | priceless |
| 22:31.31 | Fisker | failure troll |
| 22:32.09 | g0urra | you fell for it though |
| 22:32.11 | g0urra | so I'm good |
| 22:37.09 | foxlit | "-3150 seconds ago" |
| 22:37.23 | foxlit | Pro, Bibi. But I'm going to steal your time machine. |
| 22:38.01 | Bibi | foxlit : ? |
| 22:38.07 | Bibi | I don't see what you're talking about, sorry |
| 22:38.13 | Bibi | you're probably using an outdated browser |
| 22:38.15 | foxlit | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 22:38.18 | Bibi | yes ? |
| 22:38.26 | Bibi | (don't bother, it's fixed) |
| 22:38.27 | Bibi | (:p) |
| 22:38.41 | foxlit | Keep telling yourself that :) |
| 22:38.47 | foxlit | I got your time machine, though. |
| 22:38.59 | Bibi | it's supposed to have shiny flags before each posts now |
| 22:39.00 | Bibi | but ... |
| 22:39.01 | Bibi | well |
| 22:39.14 | Bibi | it requires a SQL change |
| 22:39.22 | Bibi | and I'm not allowed to go anywhere near the database |
| 22:39.26 | Bibi | :( |
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