| 00:17.50 | kd3 | hokay. I've got proof-of-concept code up. |
| 00:17.56 | kd3 | now to get started working on the parser. ick |
| 00:18.33 | Fisker | for what? |
| 00:18.36 | Fisker | my farts? |
| 00:18.42 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/tooltip |
| 00:18.58 | Eraclito | guys, what if the DK looked like this? http://i45.tinypic.com/24fcozc.png |
| 00:26.24 | pcj | kd3 are you going to hard code float:right then |
| 00:26.31 | kd3 | no |
| 00:26.37 | kd3 | early, early early proof of concept |
| 00:26.58 | kd3 | just trying to get working output before I start handling the item/js cases |
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| 00:30.19 | kd3 | my long-term goal would be to just put a formatted tooltip/item icon+link/etc in the message cache and pull the tooltip out of the cache and wrap it in a div to display on the page or just show the tip in js |
| 00:30.30 | kd3 | that kinda thing |
| 00:31.47 | kd3 | if we go the SMW route it gets a lot more fun that way. "has attribute:+int" "drops from:illidan" etc |
| 00:32.05 | kd3 | zomg itemdb on wiki |
| 00:33.47 | kd3 | crucially, ping. ^ |
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| 03:58.02 | pcj | http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/US-President-Barack-Obama-war-in-Afghanistan/photo//091201/ids_photos_ts/r3812647092.jpg/;_ylt=AhI7ufHGgttRsTk6R2MnvAnDr7sF |
| 03:58.06 | pcj | i wonder what that book's about |
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| 11:58.47 | Argh | hello? |
| 11:58.49 | winkiller | hello |
| 12:00.02 | Argh | So, I'm feeling a little frustrated with WoW right now. |
| 12:00.02 | Argh | and this is a place to chat about wow right? or no? |
| 12:00.02 | Argh | because nobody is saying a thing.. |
| 12:00.02 | Argh | well, here's the thing. I'm new to MMO's. I'm not someone that plays RPG type games much so I dont really know what I'm doing. |
| 12:00.03 | Argh | But WoW is fantastic, and until I reached the Deadmines I was enjoying myself. But now I'm finding a lot of the quests are a bit too hard, or in places I can't reach yet |
| 12:00.06 | Argh | hi winkiller |
| 12:00.08 | Argh | so the fun I was having levelling up, is now gone. And its put a downer on the game |
| 12:00.57 | winkiller | mhm |
| 12:01.01 | Fisker | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/regionlevels.html |
| 12:01.07 | Argh | and I dont know how to get a group of people together etc. So I'm just dying constantly and my armour needs repairing and I dont have the cash etc |
| 12:01.27 | winkiller | a) forget grouping |
| 12:01.38 | winkiller | sad as it is, before you reach level 70, groups are dead |
| 12:01.39 | Fisker | if you have TBC you can also start in the Draenei or Blood Elf zone |
| 12:01.43 | winkiller | the game is jut too old |
| 12:01.44 | Argh | thanks for the link. I'll have a look. But honestly I get migrane if I read too much and there's A LOT to read about with this game |
| 12:01.49 | Fisker | they're more optimized than the older zones |
| 12:02.06 | winkiller | what class and level are you now? |
| 12:02.27 | Argh | I'm a warrior lv 18 |
| 12:02.54 | Argh | i dont know if I'm using my abilites wrong, or not learning the right skills etc. or if this is just the laerning curve |
| 12:03.03 | winkiller | yeap, it's a bit hard :) |
| 12:03.10 | winkiller | warrior is very dependant on gear |
| 12:03.25 | Argh | like I said levelling up and so on, its not the kind of game I play, so I dont really get it yet |
| 12:04.16 | winkiller | you should a) get a big fat good weapon and b) stick to green to yellow quests :) |
| 12:04.51 | winkiller | as a lowlevel warrior you can easily have trouble with some quests, I do remember |
| 12:05.04 | Argh | lemme see what I have... |
| 12:05.58 | Argh | I currently have Haggard's axe. And a large metal sheild. |
| 12:06.10 | Argh | yellow quests, as in the yellow excimation marks? |
| 12:06.14 | winkiller | no |
| 12:06.29 | winkiller | in the quest log, they should be colored according to difficulty |
| 12:06.35 | Argh | ahh yea |
| 12:06.52 | winkiller | green = slightly below your level |
| 12:06.52 | winkiller | red = bad, high level |
| 12:06.57 | Argh | mine are all yellow and green yea |
| 12:07.04 | winkiller | either get a twohanded weapon or 2 1handers (maybe that's only from level 20) |
| 12:07.22 | Argh | but some are in areas I've not even been too. so should I just abondon those for now? |
| 12:07.41 | winkiller | yeah, you could probably stick to a few areas |
| 12:07.51 | Argh | i had a bunch or weapons but cant equip them. not even the archery type ones |
| 12:08.02 | winkiller | the "old content" as we call it had some nasty quests involving much too far travelling |
| 12:08.16 | winkiller | there are "weapon masters" in the capital cities |
| 12:08.21 | winkiller | you're a Human, I assume |
| 12:08.23 | winkiller | ? |
| 12:08.29 | Argh | i end up selling them. I only jsut realise I have to 'buy' the training and then I can do more. i think? |
| 12:08.30 | Argh | yea |
| 12:08.39 | winkiller | ok, been to Stormwind? |
| 12:09.29 | Argh | yea |
| 12:09.31 | winkiller | just as you enter, run straight till you come to a tree with 2-3 guards in front of it, slightly right there's a house, in it is Woo Ping, the weapon master |
| 12:09.37 | winkiller | (across the auction house) |
| 12:10.03 | winkiller | he'll learn you some more weapon proficiencies for 10s each |
| 12:10.03 | winkiller | for axes you have to go to Ironforge though |
| 12:10.06 | winkiller | but you can ask guards for directions |
| 12:10.24 | winkiller | and for your question about abilities.. |
| 12:10.30 | Argh | ooh I think I've been to ironforde yea. there was a tram system or something? |
| 12:10.34 | winkiller | yep |
| 12:10.40 | winkiller | I don't think you can really mess up much with abilities |
| 12:10.44 | winkiller | charge, heroic strike |
| 12:10.50 | winkiller | enemy dead (hopefully) :) |
| 12:10.58 | winkiller | rend is usually not worth it |
| 12:11.03 | winkiller | but your mileage may vary |
| 12:11.05 | Argh | currently I have.. |
| 12:11.20 | winkiller | and if you want 1h+ shield, you should put talent points into protection |
| 12:11.29 | winkiller | that is generally a bit slower, but you have more surviveability |
| 12:11.35 | winkiller | Fury is 2x 1hander |
| 12:11.39 | winkiller | and Arms is 1x 2hander |
| 12:11.51 | Argh | 3 on heroic strike, 2 on deflection and 1 on rend |
| 12:12.04 | Argh | i just thought best to add some to each as I didnt know what was best |
| 12:12.07 | winkiller | deflection? *goes to look up* |
| 12:12.21 | Argh | its in arms |
| 12:12.34 | winkiller | ah you mean talent points |
| 12:12.35 | winkiller | ok |
| 12:12.52 | Argh | yea |
| 12:13.00 | Argh | do you mean down in my dock? |
| 12:13.19 | winkiller | yea |
| 12:13.28 | winkiller | you don't have that many abilites at level 18 |
| 12:13.35 | Argh | i know its not too difficult all this, but while I'm lerning the terms it doesnt make too much sense, like tanking etc. its another language to me |
| 12:13.40 | winkiller | should be charge ,rend, heroic strike and battle shout |
| 12:13.45 | winkiller | I know :) |
| 12:13.49 | winkiller | we all started somewhere |
| 12:14.11 | Argh | i have heroic strike and thats its. and two battle stances above the bottom dock |
| 12:14.27 | winkiller | tanking means.. you let the character with much armor (and maybe a shield) take the beating, while the scantily clad cloth weares (men in robes) stand back |
| 12:14.36 | Argh | i gues i bought the wrong stuff? |
| 12:14.41 | Argh | or trained wrong |
| 12:15.04 | winkiller | there is no wrong stuff |
| 12:15.04 | winkiller | you usually train everything that's available |
| 12:15.04 | winkiller | EVERYTHING :) |
| 12:15.05 | Argh | yea. i'm slowly learning |
| 12:15.11 | winkiller | you really should have charge |
| 12:15.15 | winkiller | open spell book (p) |
| 12:15.44 | Argh | i get confused when it says about learning a skill and I can only do two or something. I dont wanna do the wrong thing lol |
| 12:15.49 | Argh | ok |
| 12:16.01 | winkiller | no, wait |
| 12:16.11 | winkiller | you really have to differentiate between skills aka abilites |
| 12:16.13 | winkiller | and talents |
| 12:16.20 | winkiller | you learn ALL skills/abilities |
| 12:16.23 | winkiller | at the trainer |
| 12:16.27 | Argh | ok in the spells I see 11 things |
| 12:16.40 | Argh | please dont tell me i could have dragged them down to the dock and used them all this time lol |
| 12:16.45 | winkiller | and you can *spend* your talent points. those are fixed and you can only change them with gold (gets costly after a while) |
| 12:16.51 | winkiller | yes, you could have :) |
| 12:16.52 | winkiller | sorry |
| 12:17.05 | winkiller | oh boy, you're hardcore |
| 12:17.07 | Argh | argh, hense my name |
| 12:17.09 | winkiller | thumbs up :) |
| 12:17.09 | Argh | LOL |
| 12:17.21 | Argh | i guess I ignored some exclimation marks |
| 12:17.37 | winkiller | probably |
| 12:17.42 | winkiller | and not read the manual |
| 12:17.42 | Argh | ok lemme set them up. I wondered why I could level stuff up but didnt have them yet |
| 12:17.47 | winkiller | it's not THAT bad |
| 12:17.50 | winkiller | :) |
| 12:17.54 | winkiller | have a look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Warrior |
| 12:18.01 | winkiller | upper right corner there is a huge table |
| 12:18.21 | winkiller | you could quickly sift through some of the links in the Warrior column |
| 12:19.30 | Argh | ok it added 'shoot' and 'every man for himself' |
| 12:19.41 | Argh | so now i have 4 items. wouldnt let me add the others |
| 12:20.01 | winkiller | then you forgot to train charge it seems |
| 12:20.06 | winkiller | for shoot you need a ranged weapon |
| 12:20.08 | Argh | i got the battlechest version but the writing was so small the guides were useless |
| 12:20.14 | winkiller | oh, ok |
| 12:20.20 | winkiller | basic warrior layout is something like: |
| 12:20.24 | winkiller | 1 - heroic strike |
| 12:20.27 | winkiller | 2 - charge |
| 12:20.32 | winkiller | 3 - rend |
| 12:20.34 | Argh | and i get migrane so cant read that much |
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| 12:20.52 | Argh | so where do I train charge? |
| 12:21.03 | winkiller | any warrior trainer |
| 12:21.29 | Argh | ok. |
| 12:21.39 | winkiller | just learn all the green available stuff |
| 12:21.42 | winkiller | it really helps |
| 12:21.48 | Argh | when I first trained it gave me a lot of greens and I wasn't sure if I could only do some but not all |
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| 12:22.09 | Argh | so i kept doing the heroic one because that was my most powerful attack |
| 12:22.09 | winkiller | no,you can get all |
| 12:22.15 | winkiller | only money is the limiting factor |
| 12:22.15 | winkiller | http://www.wowwiki.com/Starting_a_warrior |
| 12:22.20 | winkiller | this is what I was searching |
| 12:22.22 | winkiller | try to read this |
| 12:22.29 | Argh | i see |
| 12:22.30 | winkiller | it should be all you need really |
| 12:23.15 | winkiller | http://www.gotwarcraft.com/guides/classguides/warrior.php this looks more in detail |
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| 12:23.39 | Argh | ust trying to find my nearest triner now.. |
| 12:23.52 | Argh | i'll def take a look at those links |
| 12:24.16 | Argh | so the people that offer to teach you a trade like blacksmithing, what should I do there? |
| 12:24.37 | winkiller | sec |
| 12:27.38 | winkiller | those are professions |
| 12:27.44 | winkiller | you can have 2 primary |
| 12:27.50 | winkiller | and 3 secondary |
| 12:27.57 | winkiller | secondary are fishing, cooking, first aid |
| 12:28.10 | Argh | yea. i just dont know if I've even selection one yet because I didnt know which to learn |
| 12:28.11 | winkiller | grab em, especially first aid, if you can spare the money |
| 12:28.28 | winkiller | primary, I'd suggest you get 2 gathering professions |
| 12:28.34 | winkiller | a) it's easier for starters |
| 12:28.36 | winkiller | b) money |
| 12:28.53 | winkiller | skinning and mining or skinning and herbalism would be my suggestion |
| 12:29.03 | winkiller | and when you have a stack of 20, put it on the AH |
| 12:29.05 | winkiller | easy money |
| 12:30.05 | Argh | ah ok yea I wondered why i couldnt get all that lovely mining loot I saw peple diggin :-) |
| 12:30.40 | Argh | so i'm at a trainer, i can add daggers staves and two handed swords |
| 12:30.56 | Argh | i guess i just keep making money and then training myself up? |
| 12:31.13 | Argh | and get some professions |
| 12:31.54 | Argh | so what do I do with something like the deadmine guest thing. do I jsut stand around until people come along and ask to make a group? |
| 12:34.26 | Argh | herbalism will allow me to do what? |
| 12:34.43 | Argh | is that for picking up the plants I see around but cant pick up? |
| 12:35.51 | Argh | ok, apprentice skinner I am |
| 12:36.11 | Argh | whats the AH? |
| 12:40.30 | Argh | oh they left. well. anyone else wanna answer my question about what to do when I need a group of people? |
| 12:42.08 | Argh | well thanks for your help winkiller if you're still there. i'll get back to my game... |
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| 14:29.51 | sacarasc | Which would people recommend. Stay not playing WoW, come back due to having very little else to do or wait a month and get a scroll or resurrection and see if I actually want to play. |
| 14:37.49 | pcj | wait a week for patch 3.3 |
| 14:38.01 | Ose | hmm |
| 14:38.19 | Ose | [[3.3]] |
| 14:38.20 | Dotted | Ose meant: www.wowwiki.com/3.3 |
| 14:38.44 | sacarasc | 3.3 would pretty much do nothing for me. It's mostly a social thing as I dropped out of the raiding about half way through Ulduar. |
| 14:38.54 | pcj | there are new 5 mans too |
| 14:39.29 | pcj | otherwise why wait a month then |
| 14:40.51 | sacarasc | Because I quit 2 months ago. |
| 14:40.56 | pcj | oh |
| 14:41.40 | Ose | ~seen crucially |
| 14:41.42 | infobot | crucially <n=sky@wikia/crucially> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 9h 37m 51s ago, saying: 'kd3'. |
| 14:42.53 | Joeyaa | nou |
| 14:43.29 | Ose | ooh |
| 14:43.31 | Ose | # The existing /welcome emote now greets/welcomes targets (character says "hello"), while the new /yw is for saying "you're welcome." |
| 14:43.40 | Ose | finally that will make sense |
| 14:48.12 | Ose | what a boring patch |
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| 20:51.35 | Overclocked | helo :D |
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| 20:54.28 | Garris | Hey there, are there any resonably experienced Mutilate spec Rogues around? My brother sort of dinged 80 a few weeks ago, and he needs some help. :) |
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| 21:43.46 | Unregistered | hey jo |
| 21:44.05 | Unregistered | can i have a question? |
| 21:46.02 | Nechckn | eh? |
| 21:48.11 | Unregistered | do you know whitch emulator plays dreamcast games on PSP? |
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| 21:49.58 | Unregistered | well??? |
| 21:50.06 | Nechckn | There used to be one that was decent from what I hear, hold on... |
| 21:50.20 | Unregistered | jop jopp |
| 21:51.31 | Unregistered | i have found NullDC but it's that is for Pc |
| 21:52.59 | Nechckn | http://playstation.joystiq.com/2008/07/28/psp-gets-incredibly-slow-dreamcast-emulator/ |
| 21:53.16 | Nechckn | That was not the one I had heard about, but the only one I can find, off hand. |
| 21:54.16 | Unregistered | so is there something that you prepear? |
| 21:54.37 | Unregistered | aham |
| 21:54.54 | Nechckn | I have not used any of them, myself... but that one is supposed to work - which is better than some of the others around. |
| 21:55.29 | Unregistered | okey |
| 21:55.44 | Unregistered | and somthing more if you don't mind |
| 21:55.56 | Nechckn | Sorry.. maybe someone else has some idea. |
| 21:56.21 | Nechckn | go ahead |
| 21:56.24 | Unregistered | :)yapyapp |
| 21:56.29 | Unregistered | Aloha |
| 21:56.33 | Unregistered | so |
| 21:56.42 | Unregistered | about the psx |
| 21:56.59 | Unregistered | is psp avaible to run ps1 games? |
| 21:57.49 | Nechckn | There are some downloadables from Sony of older PS games, but not sure if there are any like ROMS or such around. |
| 21:58.03 | Nechckn | I have a PSP, but the poor fella is very dusty right now. =) |
| 22:00.19 | Unregistered | okey thank you |
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| 22:49.12 | kd3 | random wow item question: are there any melee items that still have bonus damage? e.g. "55-88 damage (+10-14 frost)" |
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