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| 00:21.32 | pcj | "If Curse Client v4 is unable to update to the latest version, it will now attempt to repair any local system issues preventing the update. " |
| 00:21.34 | pcj | that sounds ominous |
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| 00:28.16 | pcj | "hmm this partition is not writable, looks like it needs a format" |
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| 01:05.52 | Sandwichman2448 | sighs and shakes his fist at how little he makes sense. This proposal will become a proposal! Make sense time! |
| 01:15.35 | Sandwichman2448 | makes the wall of text bigger. |
| 01:36.05 | Sandwichman2448 | :( |
| 01:45.55 | pcj | :D |
| 01:48.45 | Sandwichman2448 | Hey pcj, I will stop spamming it, but how do I make my "Common sense policy" idea make sense? |
| 01:49.13 | pcj | quite simply |
| 01:49.16 | pcj | use common sense |
| 01:49.25 | Eraclito | is common sense open source? |
| 01:49.52 | Eraclito | because if it isn't, we should change name |
| 01:50.05 | Eraclito | in... private sense, or pay-to-sense |
| 01:50.24 | equiraptor | common sense doesn't have source. |
| 01:50.28 | equiraptor | It just exists. |
| 01:50.41 | equiraptor | It's one of "those" things. |
| 01:52.00 | Sandwichman2448 | The problem is the very concept of my idea is just adding a phrase to wiki policy that allows admins to do nearly anything, with everyone hoping they act in good faith. |
| 01:52.06 | Eraclito | yeah, but many people just don't use it. like firefox |
| 01:52.28 | Eraclito | adding a phrase to wiki policy that allows admins to do nearly anything <- i approve this, and i'm not joking |
| 01:53.46 | Sandwichman2448 | A fallback that allows "This needs to be done, it is common sense." to be a real reason. |
| 01:55.17 | pcj | let's just say that the admins can take "emergency power" to institute the Galactic Empire... i mean to keep people in line |
| 01:55.54 | Sandwichman2448 | There are many problems with that, the biggest of which is if (read: when) people disagree about it. |
| 01:56.50 | Eraclito | but... you're admins |
| 01:56.58 | Eraclito | admins should have always the last word |
| 01:57.25 | Sandwichman2448 | Which admin? |
| 01:58.35 | Eraclito | uh... an admin council? i mean, online community even if friendly are a oligarchy |
| 01:59.41 | Eraclito | if all admins are on the same plane, and often you can't reach common decisions, you need a little more hierarchy |
| 02:00.52 | Sandwichman2448 | [[Forum:Permaban Rolandius?]] is over and done with, but it ripped the wiki apart, and not just because of the user it was about. |
| 02:00.53 | Dotted | Sandwichman2448 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Forum:Permaban_Rolandius? |
| 02:01.45 | Sandwichman2448 | It showed the flaws of how things are run, and how powerless people can be to fix things. |
| 02:02.44 | Sandwichman2448 | My idea is not an attack on, or attempted channeling of, Fandyllic, but his comments before he left sting a bit. |
| 02:05.04 | Sandwichman2448 | The root of the problem seems to be subjectivity versus objectivity... opinion versus fact... keeping the wiki just and open versus keeping the wiki sane and harsh. |
| 02:08.58 | Eraclito | well, but if you allow users like Rolandius to insinuate doubts about admins and the wiki administration... things will not be fun, for anyone |
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| 02:14.08 | Sandwichman2448 | Who did the doubts come from, who were they of? |
| 02:15.29 | Sandwichman2448 | Oh, and the 'admin council' idea seems to have been tried for that vote, and it was deemed a violation of [[WW:VOTE]], and is was said to be made up as it went along. |
| 02:15.29 | Dotted | Sandwichman2448 meant: www.wowwiki.com/WW:VOTE |
| 02:30.21 | Sandwichman2448 | I have little doubt that that problem will come up again, beyond discussion. |
| 02:32.49 | Sandwichman2448 | I do not want to sound like Fandyllic, but I think I may try and continue his inclusionist versus exclusionist thoughts, if only to get a response to other things. |
| 02:33.24 | Sandwichman2448 | Force the issue, like he never did. |
| 02:36.33 | Sandwichman2448 | We need more policy. Let ancient consensus prevent disagreement. |
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| 02:40.05 | MasterOfDisguise | Oh jesus |
| 02:41.09 | Cairenn | heh, you brought it on yourself :p |
| 02:41.41 | MasterOfDisguise | :( |
| 02:41.53 | MasterOfDisguise | I was trying to dissuade him. That darn Skyfailure. |
| 02:43.35 | Sky2042_afk | Wait, what, DuTempete??? :O |
| 02:44.42 | MasterOfDisguise | I remember DuTempete. We chatted for like twenty minutes one time. |
| 02:45.11 | Sky2042_afk | .... |
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| 02:45.25 | *** kick/#wowwiki [MasterOfDisguise!n=Sky2042@wikimedia/Izno] by Sky2042_afk (You are indeed annoying.) |
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| 02:46.01 | MasterOfDisguise | goes back into his hiatus. |
| 02:46.14 | MasterOfDisguise | FYI: I know Sky from other channels, so don't take it wrong the way. :P |
| 02:48.38 | DuTempete | ... |
| 02:48.46 | MasterOfDisguise | ? |
| 02:48.47 | DuTempete | damnit, he logged off |
| 02:49.02 | MasterOfDisguise | Sky? |
| 02:49.08 | DuTempete | yes |
| 02:49.25 | MasterOfDisguise | On freenode, yes, but he's on another network |
| 02:49.29 | MasterOfDisguise | If you want I can pass a message on |
| 02:50.14 | DuTempete | nah, s'ok |
| 02:50.20 | MasterOfDisguise | Alright |
| 02:50.24 | MasterOfDisguise | So how are you? |
| 02:51.33 | Sandwichman2448 | Bye. |
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| 02:52.13 | DuTempete | I'm good, just relaxin' |
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| 09:38.58 | foxchild | hiya, is anyone here good with lua or can help me figure out how to set up a notification for the addon dotimer? |
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| 11:54.10 | winks | lol |
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| 13:27.29 | pcj | http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/britaincourtsexoffbeat |
| 14:21.29 | winks | nice |
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| 15:10.28 | pcj | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/11/obama-emperor-akihito-japan.html |
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| 15:15.18 | Fisker | slaps pcj around a bit with a large trout |
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| 16:30.55 | dylanmcd | http://imgur.com/D7oXy.png <- Anyone know what the non-quartz cast bar in this picture is? I'm trying to turn it off, but I can't find it anywhere. |
| 16:35.12 | dylanmcd | Hadn't logged in to IRC, so I don't know if this sent: http://imgur.com/D7oXy.png <- Anyone know what the non-quartz cast bar in this picture is? I'm trying to turn it off, but I can't find it anywhere. |
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| 16:58.37 | winks | doesn't look familiar, no |
| 16:58.48 | dylanmcd | Figured it out, it's Dominos |
| 16:59.02 | dylanmcd | Which you wouldn't figure would come with a casting bar, but oh well |
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| 17:13.31 | Dj_Sven | hi all |
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| 17:35.05 | pcj | hi |
| 17:41.13 | foxlit | pcj: hi |
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| 23:16.27 | pcj | damn, i need 5 more exalted reps |
| 23:22.30 | winks | onyl 5? |
| 23:22.35 | winks | you can do it! |
| 23:22.45 | winks | I need 1 |
| 23:22.46 | winks | and I can't |
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