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| 09:41.55 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Forum:Fan_art_vs._fan_fiction |
| 09:43.28 | Amarande | g0urra: I don't see the point of someone just complaining. :| |
| 09:43.31 | Amarande | it's a bloody wiki |
| 09:43.41 | Amarande | if you think something's missing then ADD IT DON'T QQ KTHX |
| 09:43.48 | Amarande | well |
| 09:43.52 | Amarande | assuming one knows how to edit a wiki |
| 09:43.57 | g0urra | he's Bureaucrat, he should know better. |
| 09:44.00 | Amarande | I'm still only half-clued when it comes to wikicode, heh |
| 09:44.25 | Amarande | C I know pretty well, HTML I know pretty well, wikicode ... well it might as well be TeX for all I can manage to do more than the bare basics :| |
| 09:45.38 | g0urra | Amarande: the guy who asked about it is a Bureaucraft of WoWWiki who has been editing for a long time... |
| 09:45.57 | Amarande | sounds like someone is lazy |
| 09:45.57 | Amarande | heh |
| 09:46.07 | g0urra | indeed. |
| 09:46.28 | g0urra | or he's like Rolandius; loves to complain on the forums because he can |
| 09:50.15 | Amarande | it's a disease, it's heavily contagious among the WoW population |
| 09:50.24 | g0urra | indeed... |
| 09:50.24 | Amarande | it will ruin your social standing among your friends |
| 09:50.26 | Amarande | and it is called QQ |
| 09:50.29 | Amarande | beware! |
| 09:50.56 | Amarande | although, sadly, there are plenty of cases where people feel forced to QQ because it seems there are issues that are not getting addressed |
| 09:51.06 | Amarande | e.g., the whole warlock 5's death complex in BC |
| 09:51.11 | Amarande | which really didn't see any relief until WotLK |
| 09:51.28 | Amarande | during BC, it just got worse and worse and worse until eventually warlocks were pretty much shoved out of 5's entirely |
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| 09:51.58 | Amarande | it was a pretty obvious issue, warlocks were far too much of sitting ducks for any opposing team that had 3 melee, of which one was a warrior |
| 09:52.11 | g0urra | well that's in the past |
| 09:52.19 | g0urra | how much qq is it on the forums nowadays |
| 09:52.46 | Amarande | apparently, it teetered on the edge for a while, but then in particular a critical Soul Link nerf and the new stuff from Zul'Aman (executioner enchant especially) shoved it over the edge |
| 09:52.47 | Amarande | hmm |
| 09:52.51 | Amarande | I've still seen some warlock QQ |
| 09:52.57 | g0urra | they always QQ |
| 09:53.07 | Amarande | and I'm still not sure that warlocks really have it very well in organized PvP situations like arenas |
| 09:53.18 | Amarande | they fare very well in free-for-alls like WG and battlegrounds where half the people aren't even properly PvP geared |
| 09:53.34 | Amarande | but seem to still have a number of distinct short ends when it's an organized battle between skilled and geared teams |
| 09:54.01 | g0urra | Death Coil, Demo Teleport |
| 09:54.06 | Amarande | particularly, dots are too blunted by resilience and are too easily dispelled, would be the main weakness I can think of |
| 09:54.24 | g0urra | Soul Link |
| 09:54.31 | Amarande | compare to say warriors, NONE of whose debuffs are dispellable pretty much |
| 09:55.16 | g0urra | isn't there a talent that reduces the enemy's chance to dispel your debuffs? |
| 09:55.17 | foxlit | Clearly, warriors only have one debuff. |
| 09:55.20 | Amarande | The problem with a rock-paper-scissors situation is you kinda need to complete the circle |
| 09:55.31 | Amarande | If you don't, for instance, make sure Rock actually has a weakness to Paper |
| 09:56.08 | Amarande | then what you have is a situation where everyone eventually wants to play Rock, a few people who like a challenge like Scissors, and nobody wants to play Paper, except for the few longtime Paper diehards who find they can't do much but QQ about the situation or abandon their class for Rock |
| 09:57.09 | Amarande | although, let's put it bluntly |
| 09:57.14 | foxlit | I'll leave you with the observation that the conversation has moved from QQ about QQ to QQ about warlocks. Damn the forums. |
| 09:57.26 | Amarande | 2.3 kinda stoked the QQ like stabbing a giant boil full of QQ and letting it all out. |
| 09:57.32 | Amarande | 2.3 was probably the worst.patch.ever. :) |
| 09:57.58 | Amarande | The trouble with 2.3 was IIRC that was also around S3 |
| 09:58.17 | Amarande | which meant not only did they screw over certain classes (especially locks, but also a lot of clothies suddenly had a HUGE issue due to Executioner) |
| 09:59.06 | g0urra | I think I'm going to follow foxlit.. |
| 09:59.08 | Amarande | but S3 was also when they made Arena *specifically* matter far too much, by introducing the still-omnipresent "you need to keep up an arena rating to buy good enough PvP gear to be competitive" |
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| 15:52.18 | Gunrun | why is it sometimes I can't click in the search box on wowwiki |
| 15:53.39 | charitwo | Because g0urra touches himself at night |
| 15:53.43 | charitwo | idk |
| 15:54.02 | charitwo | What do you mean "can't click", does it happen again after you refresh? |
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| 15:54.33 | charitwo | why don't you want to be hilighted g0urra ? |
| 15:54.34 | Gunrun | no, but refreshing is a pain |
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| 15:55.27 | charitwo | <3 g0urra |
| 15:57.42 | Ackis | g0urra is being mean and kicking people for saying his name? |
| 15:57.48 | Ackis | ~charitwo++ |
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| 15:58.33 | charitwo | Ackis, g0urra just prefers privit chats |
| 15:59.27 | Ackis | ah do I have to dance as well for those private chats? |
| 15:59.43 | charitwo | ask him |
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| 17:20.41 | Ska_ | if we need an eggdrop in here let me know. even has a wow realm checker. i have a feeling the answer is 'hell no', but just throwing it out there. |
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| 19:17.37 | k0ctep | Hi guys |
| 19:24.45 | g0urra | hello k0ctep |
| 19:30.24 | k0ctep | What's the point sitting on a irc channel when there is nothing to discuss? |
| 19:30.58 | k0ctep | Hello |
| 19:31.24 | k0ctep | Too bad Ose if afk )) |
| 19:31.37 | Ose | ? |
| 19:31.44 | k0ctep | or not.. |
| 19:32.03 | Ose | this isn't really a social channel :P |
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| 19:32.10 | g0urra | no, it's not |
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| 19:32.26 | Ressy | Hi guys... Question for ya.. |
| 19:32.39 | k0ctep | Still though, dont you think it's strange? WoW is a pretty social game, yet the wowwiki channel isnt |
| 19:32.44 | Ressy | any reason why I keep getting kicked off wowwiki, and continuously have to re-login to do any edits? |
| 19:33.16 | g0urra | Ressy: it's the cookies that are hosed |
| 19:33.19 | g0urra | kd3 has it too |
| 19:33.42 | k0ctep | BTW did they forget any lands in WoW which were in the previous warcraft games? |
| 19:33.44 | Ressy | ah... k. |
| 19:33.53 | k0ctep | And what is Grand Hamlet? |
| 19:33.58 | k0ctep | Duskwood? |
| 19:34.19 | Ressy | been driving me nuts cuz I'm trying to fix the US_realm_list_by_datacenter, and it keeps logging me out. |
| 19:34.44 | k0ctep | Darkshire?* |
| 19:35.37 | Ressy | question. How do I revert to a version of US_realm_list_by_datacenter from before it was fubar'd with today? |
| 19:35.46 | Ressy | so, 2 revisions ago |
| 19:35.58 | kd3 | click on the history tab |
| 19:36.17 | kd3 | click on the last edit that was good (click its time so you see the page as it existed at that point) |
| 19:36.24 | kd3 | hit edit, then hit save |
| 19:36.29 | Ressy | awesome, ty. |
| 19:37.00 | Ressy | someone updated the page this morning with IP addresses from 2007 (trying to be helpful I guess), and then someone else moved 2 battlegroups to a new datacenter, which its not in.. |
| 19:38.31 | k0ctep | Doesn't anyone find that the Human peasents from WCI were alot cooler than the fat, retareded peasents from WCII, III, WoW? |
| 19:40.38 | k0ctep | The Fire Elementals looked awsome too |
| 19:40.46 | k0ctep | in Orcs & Humans |
| 19:41.26 | k0ctep | Actually, come to think of it, many units had a good look to them from WCI. Even back then Blizzard though everything out |
| 19:43.31 | k0ctep | What is kind of strange is that noone ever modded WC I |
| 19:43.36 | k0ctep | or II |
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| 20:17.58 | kd3 | all kinds of neat, for those of you who haven't seen it in other channels |
| 20:18.01 | kd3 | http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=25307 |
| 20:25.16 | Alram | Yeah I read it on crap.com |
| 20:25.23 | Alram | They have a gallery up as well |
| 20:25.24 | Alram | http://www.wow.com/gallery/adgc09-the-universe-behind-world-of-warcraft/ |
| 20:26.12 | Alram | + the whole panel in mp3 format |
| 20:47.02 | g0urra | !jobqueue |
| 20:47.04 | Dotted | The job queue length is currently |
| 20:47.10 | g0urra | fail Dotted |
| 20:47.26 | g0urra | Job queue length26,746 |
| 20:47.28 | g0urra | awesome |
| 20:51.34 | Dotted | ~say !jq |
| 20:51.34 | infobot | !jq |
| 20:51.36 | Dotted | The job queue length is currently |
| 20:51.39 | Dotted | hmm |
| 20:57.40 | Dotted | ~say !jq |
| 20:57.41 | infobot | !jq |
| 20:57.43 | Dotted | The job queue length is currently 23 |
| 20:57.53 | Dotted | the f... |
| 20:58.29 | Dotted | ~say !jq |
| 20:58.30 | infobot | !jq |
| 20:58.32 | Dotted | The job queue length is currently 26746 |