| 00:00.15 | kd3 | ya... but unless I completely redesign the table (look at the source) there's not much I can do |
| 00:03.40 | Kirkburn | I thought Ose redesigned it using templates? |
| 00:04.17 | Kirkburn | on http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/dev |
| 00:07.23 | kd3 | whips out a calculator |
| 00:09.26 | Kirkburn | phwoar |
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| 00:16.04 | pcj | so kd3 how are you going to protect a page against sysops creating it |
| 00:16.25 | kd3 | it's mainly to prevent bots (like how uber's script kept creating it) |
| 00:16.36 | kd3 | not much I can do against AWB-using sysops |
| 00:16.51 | kd3 | >.> |
| 00:17.20 | pcj | isn't there some page code you can use to stop AWB from processing a certain page |
| 00:19.29 | pcj | well AWB shouldn't process it anyway since nothing links to it and it doesn't exist |
| 00:19.30 | pcj | so w/e |
| 00:20.53 | kd3 | ok; with a bit better math, ose's idea works fine. refresh [[User:Kaydeethree/levels]] |
| 00:20.53 | Dotted | kd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/levels |
| 00:20.59 | kd3 | though the colors still need work |
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| 00:45.26 | kd3 | whee |
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| 01:00.35 | ForValor | hello? |
| 01:01.41 | Marla|Laptop | is it meee your looking forrrr |
| 01:01.46 | jimbom | hello...hello...hello |
| 01:01.48 | Marla|Laptop | i forgot the rest of the song |
| 01:12.11 | ForValor | does anyone here know a class well? |
| 01:13.30 | jimbom | not i |
| 01:13.57 | ForValor | grawr |
| 01:14.08 | ForValor_ | that doesn't help |
| 01:14.43 | jimbom | heh |
| 01:15.10 | jimbom | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.44 | ForValor | intellect reduced 95% |
| 01:16.51 | jimbom | only 95%? |
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| 01:19.21 | ForValor | well it can't be overpowered |
| 01:19.49 | ForValor | Keolah, excuse me, but would you happen to be well-versed in any certain class? |
| 01:20.30 | jimbom | <-- has no class |
| 01:20.37 | ForValor | why are you on here? |
| 01:20.39 | Keolah | Define "well-versed". |
| 01:20.47 | ForValor | umm |
| 01:20.59 | jimbom | learning things |
| 01:21.01 | Keolah | I don't raid, but I know how well several of them handle in solo and small group play and in pvp somewhat. |
| 01:21.24 | ForValor | could you tell me the most important abilities relating to the class? |
| 01:21.25 | Keolah | I've level a level 80 hunter, rogue, and death knight, and a level 77 paladin. |
| 01:22.01 | ForValor | I'm trying to convert the classes into a tabletop RPG |
| 01:22.08 | Keolah | Death knights and paladins are ridiculously overpowered. Rogues and hunters not so much so :) |
| 01:22.12 | ForValor | hahahaha |
| 01:22.21 | ForValor | I've heard that DKs are op |
| 01:22.33 | ForValor | maybe Rogues and Hunters are just UNDERpowered... |
| 01:22.53 | Keolah | And my bf says that his mage's DPS isn't coming anywhere close to cutting it compared to his feral druid. |
| 01:23.32 | Keolah | (Though he wishes his druid had vanish ;p) |
| 01:24.37 | Keolah | Didn't they make a warcraft RPG at one point? |
| 01:25.12 | ForValor | they did, but it's a d20 system |
| 01:25.19 | ForValor | though I could just draw off those class abilities... |
| 01:25.48 | Keolah | What's wrong with d20? Besides the fact that it hurts my head to actually try to use in a tabletop setting ;p |
| 01:26.01 | ForValor | that'd be just about the only reason |
| 01:26.09 | Keolah | liked Neverwinter Nights... where the damned game did the dicerolling for her. |
| 01:26.23 | ForValor | I don't want to waste my time with a full character sheet of statistics that might be useful once every 6 game sessions... |
| 01:26.30 | ForValor | hahahahaha |
| 01:27.15 | Keolah | Are you also taking into account the fact that different specs would play very differently also? |
| 01:27.27 | ForValor | I do want to add in specs |
| 01:27.33 | ForValor | but no more than 2 per class |
| 01:27.43 | Keolah | That makes no sense ;P |
| 01:27.58 | ForValor | like Pallies wouldn't tank or drp |
| 01:28.00 | ForValor | *dpr |
| 01:28.02 | Keolah | I mean, you take druids alone and its three specs may as well be three different classes. |
| 01:28.29 | Keolah | Some classes the spec isn't quite as important, but others... |
| 01:30.36 | ForValor | I know, I've been told so |
| 01:30.43 | ForValor | what classes do you know well? |
| 01:31.20 | ForValor | oh wow |
| 01:31.23 | ForValor | the Warcraft RPG sucks |
| 01:32.32 | Keolah | Snicker. |
| 01:33.08 | Keolah | Beastmaster Hunter, Assassin Rogue, Blood Death Knight, Protection Paladin. I have a number of others in the mid-levels or so, but even at level 56 I don't think I really know how a priest actually works :P |
| 01:34.31 | Keolah | Beastmaster Hunter plays like: Send the pet in to attack, Hunter's Mark, autoshot, go to get something to drink. |
| 01:34.47 | ForValor | heh |
| 01:35.22 | Keolah | Oh, and if I'm fighting Chillmaw, that's about the same, plus insert "move out of the way of a bomb" in there. |
| 01:35.28 | Keolah | *snicker* |
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| 01:36.04 | Keolah | With my rogue, I tend to hit mutilate, mutilate, eviscerate, repeat as necessary. |
| 01:36.09 | ForValor | that sounds very boring... |
| 01:36.25 | ForValor | what are the hunter specs? |
| 01:36.39 | Keolah | With the Death Knight, it's mostly Heart Strike and Death Strike, with the occasional Icy Touch and Plague Strike if I need a bit of healing. |
| 01:37.06 | Keolah | Beastmaster, Marksmanship, and Survival. Marksmanship's better for DPS at the cost of having a weaker pet that holds aggro even worse, and I don't even know how survival works. |
| 01:38.55 | Keolah | With the prot pally, I open with hand of reckoning, toss a judgment on them, put up Divine Plea, and mash Shield of Righteousness and Hammer of the Righteous whenever they're off cooldown, possibly with an Avenger's Shield in there too for extra damage. |
| 01:39.14 | Keolah | (I don't want to do _too_ much damage, don't want to make my bf's mage cry or anything... :P) |
| 01:39.44 | Keolah | Plus Holy Shield if I need to keep damage _off_ of me while doing that. |
| 01:40.08 | Keolah | And maybe concecration... |
| 01:40.08 | Keolah | Pallies have too damned many buttons :p |
| 01:40.09 | ForValor | haha |
| 01:40.16 | ForValor | press your head to the keyboard and roll it around |
| 01:40.29 | Keolah | I find myself pretty much mashing my entire number row a lot of the time. |
| 01:40.44 | ForValor | sounds like... talent |
| 01:40.51 | Keolah | Yup. |
| 01:42.38 | ForValor | what is mutilating and eviscerating? |
| 01:43.30 | Keolah | Mutilate = attack with a dagger in each hand, adds 2-3 combo points (since I have a talent that adds combo points on crits and I crit a lot) Eviscerate = turn combo points into more damage. |
| 01:44.14 | ForValor | ahh |
| 01:44.29 | Keolah | Oh, and pallies also have their _very obnoxious in pvp_ abilities, Hammer of Justice and Divine Shield. ie, "haha, you're stunned!" and "haha, you can't hurt me!" |
| 01:45.06 | Keolah | Pallies have too many buttons ;p |
| 01:48.01 | Keolah | But them, rogues also have things like vanish and lockpicking, and their poisons. |
| 01:53.15 | pcj | paladins don't have too many buttons |
| 01:53.29 | pcj | most of them are buffs and one-spec things |
| 01:53.52 | ForValor | I am very confused about this whole thing now |
| 01:54.43 | Keolah | I wasn't even counting all the blessings and seals in that ;p |
| 01:54.55 | Keolah | I was just talking things I actively use in combat, compared to chars of other classes I have. |
| 01:55.35 | Keolah | And I didn't even mention healing in there either, heh. |
| 01:55.50 | Keolah | But yes, with my rogue, I use all of two buttons most of the time :p |
| 01:56.19 | Keolah | ... my newbie cowtank looks very silly. Wielding a frickin' gear on a stick and wearing a battered jungle hat :) |
| 01:56.49 | ForValor | I'm assuming a Tauren.. |
| 01:56.58 | Keolah | yes |
| 01:57.05 | ForValor | no idea what the class is |
| 01:57.17 | Keolah | Druid, going bear. |
| 01:57.23 | ForValor | ahh |
| 01:57.26 | Keolah | Level 6 now though, so I have to look at this gear on a stick until level 10 :p |
| 01:57.34 | ForValor | rock the 60k hp |
| 02:09.09 | ForValor | when do class specs start to make a big difference? |
| 02:10.48 | ForValor | you still there? |
| 02:13.55 | Keolah | ? |
| 02:14.16 | Keolah | I'm running around with my and my bf's newbie druid and lock now, so expect delays ;P |
| 02:15.02 | ForValor | ahhh |
| 02:15.10 | ForValor | very good |
| 02:15.18 | ForValor | I'm going to jump to a forum now |
| 02:16.31 | ForValor | g'bye |
| 02:19.12 | charitwo | hey pcj |
| 02:19.16 | pcj | hi |
| 02:35.50 | pcj | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html |
| 02:46.47 | pcj | http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090828/D9ABSTLO0.html |
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| 04:02.32 | ropeman | hello can someone help me please? |
| 04:03.22 | pcj | what do you need |
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| 04:11.31 | ropeman | ok |
| 04:11.37 | ropeman | well heres what happened... |
| 04:12.37 | ropeman | i bought burning crusade... and didnt realize that it does not come with game time.. i figured since the first one did.. this one must as well... so rather than go out and buy game time.. because its a 50 minute drive.. i got the bright idea that id upgrade to the linch king 10 day trial... |
| 04:13.03 | ropeman | now i cant play at all unless i have linch king... is there anyway to get that upgrade to the trial removed from my account? |
| 04:13.27 | kd3 | contact billing support. there's a number on the box/in the manuals |
| 04:13.43 | ropeman | that sucks.. now i have to wait until monday |
| 04:13.57 | kd3 | you can also buy game time/get the wrath upgrade online |
| 04:15.13 | ropeman | well i bought time... but i cant get linch king.. im far too poor for that crap right now.. as it is ive spent like 80 something $ on wow alone... |
| 04:15.25 | ropeman | i bought the bc expansion and then 2 months of game time |
| 04:15.58 | ropeman | and it says unless i have linch king expansion i cant play on my account |
| 04:16.04 | kd3 | the bc box also says in pretty big text that it requires classic wow... |
| 04:16.11 | ropeman | i have classic wow |
| 04:16.16 | kd3 | wait for the trial to expire, then you'll be ok |
| 04:16.20 | ropeman | im level 60. |
| 04:16.22 | ropeman | hmmm. |
| 04:16.24 | ropeman | damn it. |
| 04:16.29 | ropeman | that sucks even worse |
| 04:16.32 | kd3 | or just get a wrath download |
| 04:16.43 | ropeman | ok so if i get a wrath download.. |
| 04:16.55 | ropeman | and play just normal bc or whatever and the 10 day trial is up. |
| 04:17.14 | kd3 | that's fine. you can play with the wrath client on earlier expansions. just not the reverse |
| 04:17.15 | ropeman | can i continue to play bc as is.. like once its expired? or once the trial is done will i HAVE to buy wrath |
| 04:18.56 | kd3 | https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/download/clients/pc/InstallWoW.exe |
| 04:20.30 | ropeman | im so bitter right now |
| 04:20.35 | ropeman | but thanks for the help |
| 04:20.53 | kd3 | make sure you select 'lich king' in the window that pops. even though you haven't bought lich king it'll work with your BC setup |
| 04:20.55 | kd3 | no prob |
| 04:21.03 | kd3 | pay attention to the text on the box next time. ;) |
| 04:21.33 | ropeman | ok so haha yeah thanks... so once the linch king trial is done... i wont have to buy it to play bc right? my account will just go back to normal bc? |
| 04:21.49 | kd3 | that's right |
| 04:25.17 | ropeman | alright thanks guys |
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| 21:48.24 | neurodamage | so I was curious, I'm running wow on my linux box with compiz how do I force it to have a window? |
| 21:52.59 | Ose | try ##linux |
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| 23:08.48 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Burning_Legion#Earth.3F |
| 23:34.48 | pcj | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFJuw9qAU28 |
| 23:37.37 | pcj | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4tfkHRMia0 |
| 23:42.31 | pcj | http://www.flickr.com/photos/preshaa/3847027500/sizes/l/ |