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00:09.52Kirkburn(I have no idea)
00:16.51Sandwichman2448It seems to have worked.
00:17.01KirkburnSandwichman2448, awesome
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00:58.45KirkburnMy BlizzCon report is live: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Kirkburn's_BlizzCon_2009_Report
01:00.30pcjnooooo
01:00.33pcjit's alive
01:03.33Adyshai Kirkburn
01:03.46Adysstill in LA?
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01:06.12KirkburnNah, in SF
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02:16.27Cooobraso blizzard announces new races on the first day of BlizzCon, and people start speculated they're going to add another 2 races... making 4 total... people are crazy
02:26.32pcjtldr: people are crazy
02:29.32Cooobralies, you so read that
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03:32.46KirkburnCooobra, lol, you gotta be kidding
03:48.41Cooobrawill be interesting to see how they'll handle flying passenger mounts... saddle built for two ;)
03:50.12Cooobracourse... eject feature will be a lot more fun too
03:50.51Cooobraeject passenger that is... no sense in both of ya dying
03:51.27Cooobrawatches a tumbleweed roll by
03:56.31Kirkburnwaves to the tumbleweed
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04:01.10Cooobrahope they don't put too many references to that tv show Lost on the Lost Isles...
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09:51.43H4rl4nhello
09:51.50H4rl4ni need a little help
09:51.53H4rl4ncan i ask?
09:52.37H4rl4nhello??
09:52.41H4rl4nanybody here?
09:53.14g0urrawhat do you need help with?
09:55.34H4rl4ni need to know if i can install TBC after installing WOTLK
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09:59.40g0urrayou have to install TBC in order to install WotLK
09:59.55H4rl4nno
10:00.03H4rl4ni have wotlk installed but no tbc
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17:22.37pcjhttp://www.wow.com/2009/08/25/15-minutes-of-fame-members-only/
17:22.38pcjfail
17:22.39pcjeww
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17:58.55winkillerah well
17:59.00winkillerit sheds light on that
17:59.08winkillermay be illegal but people do it
17:59.20winkillerI don't like that it somehow encourages them :P
17:59.29winkillerhey, nearly no drawbacks! yay
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20:18.39perunaionQ: I notice in many places wowwiki has references to playing a boss's audio clip using /script PlaySoundFile(...). What I was wondering is why not have the sound files actually uploaded to wowwiki and made directly available to listen to (direct download or embedded player)?
20:19.00kd3blizz would sue the living daylights out of us for copyright violation
20:19.49perunaionThat is unforuante, I figured it might be a copyright issue, but I couldn't find much on the matter
20:20.06perunaionAnything from the MPQ files is off-limits then?
20:20.34kd3not really. we pull stuff directly (like the in-game maps) and post them unedited outside of stitching them together... but outside of that is iffy
20:24.05perunaionI guess it'd be one of those cases where one doesn't really know the answer to until you recieve a Cease and desist letter. Oh well, I thought it'd make the end-sections of many of the boss pages more interesting.
20:24.30perunaionThanks for the answers kd3.
20:24.40g0urrawell there's youtube
20:24.48perunaionghetto!
20:25.12kd3but doable. we've gotten C&Ds from blizz before but are still an official fansite... so we'd rather not push it
20:25.42foxlitMostly for unrelated reasons.
20:25.56foxlitLike expansion data covered by NDAs.
20:26.00kd3>.>
20:27.10perunaionThose things at least make sense heh
20:29.22perunaionIs there a more formal process for suggesting such a change?
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20:33.09pcjwhat change?
20:33.59perunaionAdding sound clips (from the MPQs) to the boss pages as embedded players or download audio clips.
20:36.18pcjSounds doable
20:36.31pcjI believe OGGs are already uploadable
20:36.34pcjwe just need a player
20:37.38Guest23358an OGG player?
20:37.49perunaionogg is a permitted extension, but playable via a java applet. Flash applet would require mp3s. Either way, its encoded as wavs in the mpqs.
20:37.50Jessayto stream on a website
20:38.08Jessaytheres a couple projects in the works i believe
20:38.14JessayI'd have to check again
20:38.35Jessayany of you guys use peerguardian?
20:40.51foxlitwav is a container format, too.
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20:54.24Kirkburn_IANAL, but I would think one clip per character wouldn't be a big issue (to be representative of that characters mode of speaking)
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21:00.07OseI ANAL?
21:00.27kd3~dict IANAL
21:07.22pcjkirkburn does Wikia have an OGG player or anything like that though
21:08.41Kirkburn(but per kd3, uploaded most/all the sound clips: big no-no)
21:08.58Kirkburnpcj, not that I know off of the top of my head
21:09.10pcjwikipedia has one
21:09.13kd3modern mw has one built-in afaik
21:09.26kd3anyway, out for a bit
21:10.01KirkburnTry Special:Contact, they deal with such requests more, so may know more about what's available
21:15.31perunaionI posted in Forum:WoWWiki_policy, will that work?
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21:18.39pcjwell one of us would still have to get it implemented
21:18.44pcjso it wouldn't do too much more
21:19.14pcji will contact wikia and see what they have
21:25.00pcjhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1208895/Scientists-design-plant-filtration-lets-drink-SHOWER-water.html
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21:29.16Oseif anyone is interested, i'm redoing [[Zones by level]] to have a max width of 100%
21:29.16DottedOse meant: www.wowwiki.com/Zones_by_level
21:29.18Oseon my laptop the content was exceeding the page width
21:29.25Oseslow dotted
21:30.07Dottedno
21:30.09Dotteddie
21:31.08FiskerDotted er til mænd
21:31.44Dottedjeg er til Fisker
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22:04.23*** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> Welcome to #wowwiki, please read http://wowwiki.com/WW:IRC | UI&Macros: #wowuidev | #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | BlizzCon report - http://tinyurl.com/ncmdmf
22:04.46Kirkburn*sigh* at office lag
22:07.19Sandwichman2448Hey Kirkburn, did you have an idea on how to archive Forum threads? http://www.wowwiki.com/Forum:Should_we_make_a_forum_for_archiving_old_topics%3F
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22:21.33Kirkburn(posted on the thread)
22:23.19pcjperunaion: an ogg player extension is now active
22:23.23pcjhttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler
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22:40.33KeofoxI feel like a dork. My bf tells me he can't tell the difference between blood elf and high elf NPCs.. I never had any trouble with it :P
22:41.17Osethe eyes?
22:41.54KeofoxThey just look different!
22:42.17Keofox(Although for awhile there, he didn't believe high elves existed...)
22:42.22Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Astromancer_Darnarian
22:42.24Keofox(Before Wrath came out, obviously :P)
22:43.00Osewrath?
22:43.05Oseyou mean TBC?
22:43.08KeofoxNo.
22:43.20KeofoxHe thought all the high elves in the game were blood elves ;p
22:43.30KeofoxAnd wondered why there were blood elves in Alliance towns ;p
22:44.11Sandwichman2448Keofox, click my link. >:)
22:44.20Keofoxyes yes
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22:47.24Keofox(Though personally, given his location etc, I'd never have thought of that particular NPC as anything but a blood elf anyway ;p)
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23:53.11Sandwichman2448Just throwing this out there: Do we need a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Do_not_disrupt_Wikipedia_to_illustrate_a_point

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