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| 00:03.16 | Keolah | Mage and prot pally makes a very effective combo. |
| 00:10.44 | Keolah | I've also paired up prot pallies with cat druids, and am planning on pairing up another one with my boomkin druid. Once said druid gets up high enough level to be a boomkin and I respec her. ;p |
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| 01:01.14 | Antillie | well thats cool |
| 01:01.35 | Antillie | i went with pally casue i thought it would bo cool to cast spells in armor |
| 01:01.44 | Antillie | and she picked mage at random lol |
| 01:02.10 | Keolah | hehe |
| 01:02.38 | Keolah | I think I've wound up trying just about every conceivable duo with my bf. ;p |
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| 01:04.22 | Keolah | BM hunter/assassin rogue, BM hunter/feral druid, disc priest/prot warrior, combat rogue/fury warrior, enhancement shaman/ret paladin, moonkin druid/prot warrior... etc... |
| 01:04.51 | Keolah | Some work better than others. ;p |
| 01:05.06 | Keolah | rogue/priest didn't work out terribly well, for instance. ;p |
| 01:27.28 | Antillie | heh, nice |
| 01:27.38 | Antillie | my wife got me into wow oddly enough |
| 01:27.53 | Antillie | i suppose its only fair, i got her into ffxi |
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| 01:35.03 | Gnarfoz | heh, so now you're /both/ on crack :D |
| 01:40.42 | Antillie | something like that lol |
| 01:46.21 | Antillie | so are groups only for raids and stuff or are groups used for general xp? |
| 01:50.50 | Antillie | or is the entire 1-80 treck done solo via questing? |
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| 01:51.33 | Keofox | bah |
| 01:51.37 | Keofox | [20:49:47] <Keolah> Some higher level quests require groups of up to 5 to kill a mob. |
| 01:51.38 | Keofox | [20:50:00] <Keolah> I generally group with my bf just to level in general. |
| 01:51.38 | Keofox | [20:50:23] * Disconnected |
| 01:52.10 | Keofox | and a "raid" is a group of over 5 chars. ;p |
| 01:52.28 | Antillie | so parties dedicated to going out and killing stuff for xp are not really seen in wow? |
| 01:52.38 | Keofox | no no. |
| 01:52.42 | Antillie | oh good |
| 01:53.02 | Keofox | I _am_ partied going out killing stuff, and my bf is getting annoyed at me chatting instead of killing stuff :P |
| 01:53.09 | Antillie | so far i've just been questing with my wife |
| 01:53.21 | Keofox | I almost never solo. |
| 01:53.27 | Antillie | not done anything i would consider an "xp party" |
| 01:53.35 | Keofox | Most content outside dungeons can be soloed, but going with two makes it a lot easier. |
| 01:53.54 | Keofox | Groups of more than 2 are usually not necessary outside dungeons. |
| 01:54.00 | Antillie | oh so 2 or 3 ppl is common then |
| 01:54.04 | Keofox | Yup. |
| 01:54.17 | Antillie | but a full party for the purpose of getting xp is rare |
| 01:54.30 | Keofox | There _are_ elite quests that involve killing a tougher than usual mob that may require a full group. |
| 01:54.36 | Antillie | oh... |
| 01:54.44 | Antillie | i have an elite quest in my log atm |
| 01:54.49 | Antillie | i was wondering about that |
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| 01:54.58 | Antillie | my wife and i were gonna try and duo it |
| 01:54.59 | Keofox | Yeah, they usually recomend how many players you should have for it. |
| 01:55.08 | Antillie | i see |
| 01:55.13 | Keofox | They can be anywhere from 2 to 5 players. |
| 01:55.21 | Keofox | Which quest? |
| 01:55.26 | Antillie | umm |
| 01:55.35 | Keofox | Hogger? |
| 01:55.48 | Antillie | i don't have wow in front of me atm but that sounds familiar |
| 01:56.31 | Antillie | so getting full party together and going out and killing things for xp is rare? |
| 01:56.34 | Keofox | Yeah, Hogger's tough if you're not prepared, but two people should be fine for him. I've been able to solo him for some classes. |
| 01:56.43 | Antillie | ahh cool |
| 01:56.52 | Keofox | No, getting a full party together and going out and killing things _outside dungeons_ is rare. |
| 01:56.58 | Antillie | oh |
| 01:57.10 | Keofox | Dungeons are explicitly intended for 5+ chars. |
| 01:57.13 | Antillie | i don't think i have the concept of a dungon down then |
| 01:57.55 | Keofox | A dungeon is an area behind a swirly portal that gives you a personal instance of a place to do some tougher than usual quests in that require a full party for. |
| 01:58.03 | Antillie | oh ok |
| 01:58.19 | Antillie | is reminded of assault from ffxi |
| 01:58.45 | Antillie | i take it dungon runs are common then? |
| 01:59.44 | Keofox | Yup. |
| 02:00.17 | Antillie | cool |
| 02:00.37 | Antillie | seems like a very laid back design |
| 02:00.38 | Keofox | Raid dungeons are dungeons intended for more than 5 players... usually 10 or 25, though there's some 40 man dungeons in the old world that primarily get ignored anymore. Those tend to be more a guild effort. |
| 02:00.40 | Antillie | i like it |
| 02:00.59 | Antillie | old world? |
| 02:01.03 | Keofox | Also, dungeons can be done with fewer than 5 players if you're considerably higher level than the mobs. |
| 02:01.07 | Keofox | ie, non-expansion world. |
| 02:01.09 | Antillie | i see |
| 02:01.12 | Antillie | oh |
| 02:01.38 | Antillie | well thanks for all the info, i may be back with more questions later |
| 02:01.46 | Keofox | For instance, me and my bf like to run each others' new chars through low level dungeons for equipment. A level 80 char takes a level 16 through the Deadmines, for instance. |
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| 02:35.46 | Arrowmaster | "Also, dungeons can be done with fewer than 5 players if you're considerably higher level than the mobs." |
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| 02:36.07 | Arrowmaster | 'considerably' depends on class and dungeon |
| 02:36.14 | Arrowmaster | i was just soloing trash in aq40 |
| 02:36.47 | Arrowmaster | i know a warrior that can solo geddon and garr in MC |
| 03:10.16 | Antillie | i see, interesting |
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| 03:10.35 | Antillie | was in a meeting for an hour |
| 03:12.48 | Keofox | level 80 is _considerably_ more powerful than 60, and still a huge amount more than 70. |
| 03:14.13 | Keofox | My level 80 rogue could walk all over the mobs in Blackrock Depths without hardly taking a scratch, for instance. |
| 03:14.59 | Keofox | My bf's feral druid went bear and gathered up _every single mob_ in the Stocks and killed them at once. ;p |
| 03:16.17 | Keofox | (barring, of course, ones who didn't want to go anywhere and them wanting to try to run off briefly.) |
| 03:17.08 | Keofox | I want to be a polar bear. |
| 03:22.04 | Antillie | heh |
| 03:22.18 | Antillie | i want one of those chopper bikes |
| 03:22.29 | Antillie | that is now my one goal in wow |
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| 03:22.58 | Antillie | a motorcycle and a big sword |
| 03:23.09 | Antillie | so i can make ff7 jokes |
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| 03:23.46 | Antillie | so are dungeons mosre done for xp or for loot? |
| 03:23.49 | Antillie | more* |
| 03:25.29 | Koren | Loot |
| 03:26.18 | Antillie | i see |
| 03:26.24 | Antillie | so whats the main xp source? |
| 03:26.32 | Antillie | solo and duo'ing quests? |
| 03:26.38 | Koren | Yup |
| 03:26.52 | Antillie | cool |
| 03:35.37 | Antillie | i figure if i am still playing when i make ~lvl50 i'll buy the first expansion |
| 03:36.14 | Antillie | then get the 2nd one at ~lvl65 |
| 03:38.00 | Koren | Provided you don't want a belt or Draenei |
| 03:38.18 | Koren | Er |
| 03:38.18 | Koren | Belf |
| 03:38.26 | Antillie | eh... not really |
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| 03:39.40 | Antillie | i fugure i'll play a troll for a shaman |
| 03:39.48 | Antillie | figure* |
| 03:40.08 | Antillie | see the horde side of the world |
| 03:43.02 | Antillie | not mouch point in getting bc if i don't have a lvl 50+ i don' think |
| 03:43.06 | Antillie | don't* |
| 03:43.33 | Antillie | since all the extra content is probably designed for high level ppl |
| 03:48.07 | Antillie | hmm, i think i have spent more time reading wowwiki than actually playing wow |
| 03:55.50 | Antillie | well time to go |
| 03:55.57 | Antillie | bye everyone |
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| 09:10.13 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Alamo |
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| 09:13.15 | WardH | http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b189/econoble/BAREHED.jpg |
| 09:13.18 | WardH | pretty hilarious |
| 09:15.52 | dubb | hax |
| 09:15.56 | dubb | two channels at once? |
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| 09:20.34 | WardH | intended to paste it in wowhead, where actual convo was |
| 09:20.39 | WardH | but I clicked the wrong channel |
| 09:20.54 | sacarasc | Or did you? |
| 09:22.11 | WardH | I did |
| 09:22.15 | WardH | I did see a putty cat |
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| 18:00.10 | Fisker- | oh g0urra |
| 18:00.13 | Fisker- | SHIT IS GONNA HIT THE FAN |
| 18:00.27 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:FiskersManualBot&diff=0&oldid=782768 <-THIS IS AN OUTRAGE |
| 18:01.28 | g0urra | "ok" |
| 18:01.35 | Fisker- | you see what he did there? |
| 18:01.49 | g0urra | "no" |
| 18:01.54 | g0urra | http://www.getpersonas.com/persona/2538 |
| 18:02.21 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 18:02.24 | Fisker- | i hate you to hell |
| 18:05.43 | g0urra | "ok" |
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| 18:27.31 | crucially | has wowwiki been faster or slower in the last 24 hours? |
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| 18:37.40 | foxlit | main page still takes a while to load |
| 18:37.55 | crucially | that is because it is enormous |
| 18:37.58 | crucially | :p |
| 18:38.06 | crucially | but I am more interested in the delta |
| 18:38.34 | foxlit | Seems more processing time than bandwidth |
| 18:39.12 | crucially | yes, it is enormous |
| 18:40.01 | foxlit | So what doesn't cache? |
| 18:41.05 | g0urra | <crucially> yes, it is enormous |
| 18:41.06 | crucially | you can view the source and look at "Served by" |
| 18:41.08 | g0urra | that's what she said |
| 18:41.16 | crucially | and see how long time it took to render |
| 18:41.23 | crucially | but I am more interested in DNS time here |
| 18:41.29 | crucially | we did a change, and I am wondering if anyone noticed |
| 18:41.51 | foxlit | <!-- Served by ap18 in 3.652 secs. cpu: 2.594 --> tells me what, but not why |
| 18:42.15 | foxlit | But no; I don't quantify things up to deciseconds :( |
| 18:42.36 | crucially | you can add ?forceprofile=1 |
| 18:42.39 | crucially | and see what it is doing |
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| 18:44.12 | foxlit | <!-- Served by ap9 in 0.145 secs. cpu: 0.105 --> |
| 18:44.14 | foxlit | Now it's just scared. |
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| 18:44.45 | crucially | heh |
| 18:44.48 | kd3 | looks fine here |
| 18:44.51 | kd3 | is logged out atm |
| 18:49.41 | foxlit | 0.1 isn't actually bad. I was more complaining at 3.6 :) |
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| 18:52.42 | pcj | yay! |
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| 18:57.23 | foxlit | {{Policy/Recall|<includeonly>{{#if:{{{doc}}}|{{#if:{{{doc|}}}|doc=}}|</includeonly>doc=<includeonly>}}</includeonly>}} |
| 18:57.24 | Dotted | foxlit meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Policy/Recall|<includeonly>{{#if:{{{doc, www.wowwiki.com/Template:{doc| |
| 18:57.44 | foxlit | I wonder if this doc stuff can be made even more complicated. |
| 18:57.45 | pcj | fail dotted |
| 18:57.56 | pcj | wait |
| 18:58.12 | Dotted | patches welcome |
| 18:59.12 | Kaso | I think wiki syntax is designed purposefully to be unreadable |
| 18:59.12 | pcj | it can be simplified |
| 19:00.08 | foxlit | Actually, that might be a subst: thing, pcj |
| 19:00.23 | Kaso | just let us inline php and that'll be cool kthankx |
| 19:00.27 | pcj | lolol |
| 19:00.31 | pcj | fail kaso |
| 19:00.32 | foxlit | I'm just annoyed that things like http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Policy/Recalltalk are categorized |
| 19:00.59 | Kaso | pcj, i cant see *any* possible issues with that |
| 19:01.03 | Kaso | none whatsoever |
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| 19:11.32 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Frost_Wyrm_Raptor |
| 19:11.35 | g0urra | holy crap a raptor |
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| 19:12.15 | g0urra | quickly someone tell rolandius to add that on Raptor under "Species" |
| 19:15.12 | pcj | oh wait, he can't |
| 19:15.23 | g0urra | oh shi |
| 19:16.43 | g0urra | [[User talk:Lord_loss210]] -> http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Coobra&curid=133395&diff=1901477&oldid=1900636 |
| 19:16.44 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Lord_loss210 |
| 19:17.50 | pcj | tell him where to stick it |
| 19:18.11 | g0urra | no u do |
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| 20:18.01 | pcj | ~seen kaso |
| 20:18.05 | infobot | kaso is currently on #wowhead (3h 39m 46s) #wowuidev (3h 39m 46s) #wowwiki (3h 39m 46s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 1h 17m 2s, last said: 'none whatsoever'. |
| 20:18.09 | pcj | why so dormant kaso |
| 20:18.21 | Kaso | hmm? |
| 20:18.31 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Kaso&curid=29039&diff=1901529&oldid=1236542 |
| 20:18.33 | Kaso | No-one has said anything worth replying to since then |
| 20:18.34 | pcj | dun dun DUN |
| 20:18.44 | Kaso | aww |
| 20:19.12 | Kaso | I dont play wow atm, which is sorta why im dormant on wowwiki ;p |
| 20:19.28 | pcj | why do you hate us |
| 20:19.33 | Kaso | but actually *today* i finished my degree, so im thinking of re-starting wow |
| 20:19.39 | pcj | :o |
| 20:20.09 | foxlit | convert it to a radian first |
| 20:20.29 | pcj | damn you, be in the UK then |
| 20:20.32 | Kaso | boom-tish |
| 20:20.58 | Kaso | yes i am in the UK? how does that related to things exactly? |
| 20:21.27 | pcj | scroll of resurrection from me otherwise |
| 20:21.33 | Kaso | ah i see |
| 20:21.53 | Kaso | Yah, if anyone in the UK does want one im happy to sort it out in the next few days |
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| 20:37.20 | sacarasc | Kaso: I would like one. :) |
| 20:38.06 | Kaso | you need my email address right? |
| 20:39.35 | pcj | or character name + realm |
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| 21:43.37 | pcj | when is mmo-champion.com changing to mmo.com |
| 21:45.32 | g0urra | when is wowwiki.com changing to wow.com |
| 21:46.21 | pcj | wow.com sucks |
| 22:18.52 | g0urra | pcj |
| 22:18.58 | g0urra | fandy wants ose as admin |
| 22:18.58 | g0urra | :V |
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