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02:06.35KetrelAny way to have multiple characters logged in at once so for example, I could enchant a soulbound item via the trade window, or am I forced to go to another player for that?
02:09.57NechcknUnless you pay for more than one account, you need someone else to do it for you.
02:14.21Ketreldamn, that sucks
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02:51.35KasoKetrel, cant you use a vellum for that?
03:07.58NechcknBah, good thought, Kaso - I still forget about those, tbh.
03:08.48Kasoyah, they were a mere dream for so long
03:09.39NechcknWhat I really would like are vellums for Mage portals =)
03:09.45NechcknOn my non-Mages, anyway.
03:10.31Ketrelvellum? I must go consult teh wiki
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03:38.16Ketrelwill the game actually let you destroy your hearthstone?
03:42.24NechcknIf I remember right, you simply toss it, then visit an Inn keeper to get a new one.
03:44.37Ketrelah ok
03:44.46Ketrelthat's good to know
03:59.27Kasoyah, whenever i need space in my bags hearthstone is the first to go
04:00.09Ketrelwith mine, it's usually soulshards
04:00.24KetrelBTW I heard there's specific bags for carrying them, what makes them so special?
04:00.37Kasoyou can carry significantly more
04:01.01KetrelDoes it count as an equipped bag?
04:01.20Ketrelor can you store it in your inventory when it's not empty, etc
04:01.28Kasoequipped bag
04:01.28Ketrelor it it just a large bag for carrying thsoe?
04:01.39Kasoyah just a large bag
04:01.56NechcknKaso  when you toss it, where is your home set, the Inn where you get the new one, or the place you had it "set" before tossing?
04:02.12Ketrelare they expensive or fairly priced?
04:02.14NechcknKetrel  Yes they count as a bag, just like the miscellaneous bags
04:03.31NechcknIt really depends on your server- warlocks get a 10 slot or something pretty early on, for free, so it's decent in that regard.
04:03.37Kasoim pretty sure its the the last place you had it set yes
04:03.41Nechcknthey only hold SS though
04:03.46Kasothen your spawn location if you never set it
04:03.53KetrelNechckn for free?
04:04.06KetrelI have a lvl 20 warlock and got no such thing
04:04.28NechcknIt's a quest, um.. one second I'll look
04:04.49Kasoyou get one at 20 and one at 30
04:05.00Kasohttp://www.wowhead.com/?quest=1795 http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=1739
04:05.19Kasocheck with your class trainer they should guide you to your class quests
04:05.57Ketrelah, I ashall try that then
04:06.00Nechcknthat's where I was heading, but browsing is slow on here with WoW and a bunch of other crap open, too  =)  I have a lock ~50 but he's been on ice for over a year now, so I couldn't remmeber.
04:31.02KetrelWhy does the flight master in the exodar ONLY connect with bloodmist?
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04:34.18kd3because they don't connect across instance boundaries
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05:01.52Ketrelkd3: instance boundaries?
05:02.45KetrelIs there a term for when you die, and then revive, move a few feet, then die again?
05:03.51kd3keltrel; azuremyst and bloodmyst isles are on different servers than the rest of kalimdor
05:03.57kd3your latter term is called 'corpse hopping'
05:04.39Ketrelah ok, I get it, that's kinda sucky :(
05:04.49Ketreland I be doing some serious corpse hopping then lol
05:04.55Ketrelup to 12 deaths now
05:05.02kd3then you're probably in an area where you shouldn't be
05:05.38KetrelTrying to do the "Devourer of Souls" quest
05:08.34Ketrel"Kind a pain if you are in a PvP server and a alliance, but if everything goes all well, this should be easy as pie :)"
05:10.44KetrelI think my choice of route is what killed me
05:11.50KetrelI be it'll be a small fortune to repair my gear
05:29.04Ketrelmeh, it only cost 30 silver
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06:04.20KetrelWhat's the benefit of a succubus over a voidwalker?
06:06.54Nechckn_AFKsleep
06:08.16Nechckn_AFKj/k.. with where my warlock is sitting, the VW is still the go-to guy for everything.  I'm sure there are reasons over 50 to use the loverly lady, but I don't know, tbh.
06:18.30Ketrelah ok
06:18.49Ketrelone more, is there any sort of portable forge so I don't have to go places to smelt?
06:19.06Nechckn_AFKNo such luck, amigo.
06:19.30Nechckn_AFKI'd settle for an anvil that could be summoned... but not even that, yet.
06:19.56Nechckn_AFKThe Gnomish Army Knife makes it a bit nicer if you are an Engineer and maybe a BS, to a more limited point.
06:20.15Ketrelnaw, just a miner
06:20.37Nechckn_AFKAh.. gotcha.  Was just a thought.
06:20.46Nechckn_AFKwell, do you skin as well?
06:23.43Nechckn_AFKthere are a few multi-purpose goodies, like the Knife/mining pick and Hammer/pick combos.. so just keep that in mind, if you are looking to save space and stuff.  =)
06:28.42KetrelMy warlock is Tailor/Miner, and my Druid is Skining/Leatherworking
06:28.52Ketrel(I use mining to get cash flow)
06:29.28KetrelIf the market starts moving again, I will do some manipulation in the auction house [evil_grin]
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08:33.36KetrelA while ago I saw someone using what looked like a train set, can anyone tell me what it was?
08:35.08AlramIt's a train set you can buy at the Dalaran toy store
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08:39.42KetrelExpensive I assume then?
08:43.00AlramI think so, ye.s
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11:53.06foxlitgrr, someone broke my autojoin :(
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12:18.40pcjwe don't want registered users only
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12:18.51mYnde3Dhello
12:19.03pcjhi
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12:23.05pcjyep
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12:29.58foxlitpcj: yet someone set that earlier :)
12:30.19pcjand we got complaints afterwards
12:30.37foxlitAnd didn't clear it.
12:30.46foxlit[the flag, that is]
12:31.14foxlitAnyway, I don't care as long as it isn't +r :)
12:31.30pcjyeah the documentation I was looking at said just +R blocked users, +r was that the channel was registered with services
12:31.38pcjapparently freenode does it different
12:31.53foxlit+R is mute unless identified, +r is block join unless identified.
12:32.01pcjyep
12:32.12pcji don't know who set those modes
12:34.03Fisker-hey pcj
12:34.09pcjhi
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18:07.46pcjhttp://www.wmcstations.com/global/story.asp?s=10398511
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18:32.37g0urrapcj I just noticed something
18:32.41pcjok
18:33.07g0urraRolandius is no longer blocked
18:33.19pcjyou only blocked him for a week
18:33.21pcjnoob
18:33.55g0urrareapply the ban then
18:33.56g0urranoob
18:34.03pcjwhy
18:34.05cruciallyhi
18:34.18pcjoh its crucially
18:34.49pcjcrucially: http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Kirkburn#WoWWiki_AddOn_updater
18:36.07cruciallydo you know how much bandwidth it is?
18:36.20pcjwell it depends on how popular it becomes obviously
18:36.36pcjand you can code the client appropriately so people can't check that often
18:36.48pcjor whatever throttling you need apparently
18:37.19cruciallywould someone else do the client?
18:37.24cruciallyand how large are these addons?
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18:38.53pcjprobably would have to be someone who is good with Java...less than half a megabyte
18:39.00pcjon average
18:39.27pcjthe addons would be compressed
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18:43.50cruciallyi mean, from a server standpoint we can handle it no problem
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18:45.06pcjoh
18:48.05pcjso you give your blessing to the idea?
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18:48.33robotuschoh hai
18:48.57pcjhi
18:49.09robotuschthanks for removing +R btw :D
18:49.14pcjyeah
18:49.19pcjdon't know who added that
18:49.27cruciallypcj: i like ot
18:49.38pcjyou like ot?
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18:54.23cruciallyit
18:54.37cruciallyi like ot if ot standards for awesome
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19:28.35pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Forum:WoWWiki_AddOn_Updater
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20:06.22infobotTo me crucially is the devourer of websites
20:06.33crucially!
20:08.29g0urra~charitwo
20:08.30infobothmm... charitwo is everywhere
20:11.34pcj~g0urra
20:11.34infobotsomebody said g0urra was gOurra
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20:13.31infobotsomebody said pcj was WHO DARES SUMMON ME
20:14.11RollumHas anything changed with the front page of WoWWiki over the last day or so? Because now when I view it in Safari, when logged in, all of the portals except the World of Warcraft portal do not display any content. This issue does not occur when logged out or when using FireFox. I have emptied caches etc.
20:17.01pcjcan you take a screenshot?
20:17.06Rollumsure just a mo
20:20.16Rollumhttp://img.skitch.com/20090521-bkfi1ruwtn5r987kwcp8gqspcx.jpg
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20:31.50RollumAny ideas pcj?  :)
20:32.08RollumDoesn't really matter to me, but not particularly useful to users
20:35.53pcjthis just changed in the last day or so?
20:36.08pcjjust in safari?
20:37.45Rollumyeah
20:37.57RollumI was able to access it before, I think on monday or more recently
20:38.02Rollumand it is just in safari
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21:09.31Camicio2'server restart in 15:00', i get logged out after 10 seconds, why?
21:12.02KorenMetric time
21:17.26BiggieHSmallsShttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDMucgZOb8&feature=channel_page
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21:36.18AckisWorkpompy has a bug with wowwiki but he's too afriad to talk in the channel, so I'm being an asshole and pointing it out
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21:57.34charitwopcj
22:00.36Osecharitwo
22:00.56charitwoose is stalking me :(
22:01.10Osemwa ha has
22:11.12Osespeaking of pcj, I need to know if any of his JS will break when wikia changes frameworks
22:11.31foxlitYou mean the js works? :P
22:12.32Osewell, mine did
22:12.40Oseuntil I tried adding some more
22:12.46Osethen nothing did
22:21.00pcjwikia is changing frameworks?
22:23.17crucially_pcj: yes
22:23.21crucially_to jquery from yui
22:23.25pcjthanks for telling me as i requested crucially
22:23.43pcjyeah i was thinking about transitioning everything to jquery anyway
22:24.45foxlitpcj: Remember the portal show/hide issue?
22:24.52foxlitIt still doesn't work <3
22:24.54crucially_i told you!
22:25.00pcjit works for me foxlit
22:25.03pcjno you didn't crucially
22:25.14crucially_sorry :(
22:25.17crucially_I thought I did
22:25.28pcjpfft
22:32.45pcjhttp://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how_to/4318067.html?page=1
22:45.26Oseonce again, Ose saves the day
23:07.33sacarascGo Ose!
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23:19.07charitwopcj
23:19.14pcjwhat
23:19.39charitwois there any way i could use CSS or JS to use a skin on every pageload that's loaded but not enabled in preferences
23:20.10pcjyou could definitely do it with JS
23:20.30pcjjust see if it has ?useskin=<skin> in the URL and if not redirect to that
23:20.40pcjbut the question is really why at that point
23:21.01charitwobecause wikia removed the ability to choose certain skins via preferences, but they are still loaded
23:21.39pcjat that point i would recommend stealthily adding the option at load time in your preferences and submitting the form with that option selected
23:22.00charitwohow?
23:23.51pcjgo to Special:Preferences
23:23.57pcjtype in the address bar:
23:27.56pcjjavascript:alert(document.getElementById("wpSkinawesome").parentNode.parentNode.parentNode.innerHTML += '<tr><td><tr><td><input value="skinname" id="wpSkinskinname" name="wpSkin" type="radio"><label for="wpSkinskinname">Skinname</label> <a target="_blank" href="/index.php?title=Portal:Main&amp;useskin=skinname">Preview</a></td></tr>');
23:28.06pcjpress enter
23:28.08pcjclick OK
23:28.16pcjchoose the "skinname" radio option
23:28.22pcjclick Save
23:29.06pcjlet me know if it works to save that as the selected option, it would be funny if it does
23:31.53charitwocommand does nothing
23:32.27pcjwhat is the skin name?
23:34.04charitwoanything under old skins
23:34.07charitwolike simple for example
23:34.18pcjit's still there
23:35.09charitwonot on every wiki
23:35.33charitwonot sure what it works on wowwiki still
23:36.26pcjok try this
23:36.30pcjjavascript:alert(document.getElementById("prefsection-1").innerHTML += '<tr><td><tr><td><input value="skinname" id="wpSkinskinname" name="wpSkin" type="radio"><label for="wpSkinskinname">Skinname</label> <a target="_blank" href="/index.php?title=Portal:Main&amp;useskin=skinname">Preview</a></td></tr>');
23:36.48pcjthe option should be at the bottom of the skins section, right above the save button
23:41.49charitwoi can choose and save
23:41.50charitwobut
23:41.52charitwoit doesn't save
23:42.05charitwo(yes i made sure the override button was unchecked)
23:42.19pcjwhat wiki is it on
23:42.55charitwoi tested on central
23:43.13charitwowhose preferences apply everywhere
23:44.05KetrelIs it normal/high/low to have 130 gold at lvl 20
23:44.29sacarascIt's not unheard of, but I've never done it.
23:45.22Ketrelok, just want to make sure I'm not doing poorly
23:47.15pcjcharitwo i don't think they're loaded
23:47.15pcjhttp://www.wikia.com/wiki/Reading_Glasses?useskin=cologneblue
23:47.17pcjdoesn't work
23:48.19charitwoit works for me
23:49.03pcjhmm

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