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00:00.58kd3yes
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00:01.09kd3same for the lock/pally mount quest chains
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00:06.22Sandwichman2449You can buy the quest mounts now?
00:06.30kd3yes
00:08.20Sandwichman2449A lot of people are getting their datamine on.
00:09.36Eraclitoi <3 the alliance tabards
00:09.42Eraclitoi request'em looooong time ago
00:09.48Eraclitoand got trolled on the forums
00:10.25Eraclito(i was requesting a rework on alliance/horde factions, languages, tabards and so)
00:11.58Eraclitokd3, sorry if i bother you again, but if i buy the flight form i still get the feat of strength when i complete the anzu quest?
00:13.02kd3dunno, probably
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00:14.50Eraclitookay thanks
00:14.58Eraclitowell i don't care really about the feat of strength
00:15.04Eraclitomore about anzu =P
00:22.17Sandwichman2449Best closing statement of a discussion ever: "I must have been tired." http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Rolandius#Context_and_dead_links
00:24.01pcjhaha
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03:04.27Dottedhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=D64A4FBEADA9E20A09AFB09DC94F876B?topicId=102935693&postId=1027578833&sid=1 worst advise ever much kd3? :P
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16:25.37sancusany admin type about?
16:29.20CharitwoAdys foxlit kd3 pcj
16:29.27pcjwhat sancus
16:29.42Adysyeah?
16:30.28sancusCharitwo: Yeah I know, was just seeing if they were paying attention :p
16:30.33Adyslol
16:30.53sancusis it acceptable to just delete stuff that's copyrighted on someone else's webpage from the wiki with a reference to the original source?
16:31.02sancusor is there some other policy for that
16:31.16pcjwell what is the original source
16:31.30Adysprobably depends, but generally i'd say yeah its acceptable
16:31.31pcjand how much stuff is copied
16:32.02sancushttp://www.wowwiki.com/Hodir
16:32.11sancusentire article cut and pasted from stratfu
16:32.13sancuspretty much
16:32.24Adysdid stratfu complain?
16:32.27foxlitDelete it all, there's a copyvio template too
16:32.41sancusYeah one of the owners asked me what to do about it
16:32.49Adysgo on then yeah
16:33.08Adysdelete the strat and the link
16:33.24Adys(theres no reason we should be advertising them for free either)
16:33.31sancusk
16:33.51foxlitMeh.
16:34.11foxlitWe advertise people for free anyway. Doesn't mean we get to copy/paste their content while we're at it.
16:34.50AdysI dont see them complaining if we do copypaste them
16:35.09AdysI mean
16:35.18Adysits not like this is a bunch of original work
16:35.29foxlitSomeone had to write it.
16:35.51Adysyou cant really "copyright" a strategy
16:35.55foxlit(Unless it consists entirely of datamined spell descriptions, of course :) )
16:36.28foxlitThat'd be a patent, of course.
16:36.37foxlitWhat you copyright is the text describing the strategy, obviously.
16:36.43sancusyea
16:36.56Adysonce more guilds will do ulduar their strategy will just be "one more strat"
16:37.06Adyschange a couple of words and they cant really say "omg this is ours"
16:37.07sancusThere isn't really a strat
16:37.14sancusmore a list of abilities
16:37.33sancusI agree with you, but an obvious copy paste is over the line
16:37.40Adysyeah
16:37.53sancusWhen you can just rewrite that list yourself from the info
16:37.56sancusjust laziness really
16:38.07Adysnot saying they're wrong, just saying this will take just a couple of days for someone to rewrite something else
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16:38.15Adysand they're losing their own link in the process
16:38.48foxlitI don't see any reason to remove the link -- unless it's not at all useful.
16:39.14foxlitAh, reference. Silly them, should've been an elink.
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16:52.00sancusI'll rewrite the article later when I have some time
16:54.41pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Hodir&curid=202463&diff=1789573&oldid=1789571&rcid=1780613
16:54.43pcjpwnt
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17:06.39sancusyea thats fine
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17:31.28Fisker-They already count
17:31.35Fisker-or atleast those i've done do
17:31.40Fisker-even those starting in a dungeon
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17:39.35winkillerWTF
17:39.41winkillerdamn PTR client filled up C:\
17:39.46winkilleralthough I started download on d:\
17:39.51winkillerstupid blizzard ><
17:40.10Fisker-learn2c:\
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18:06.54mxsAdys: there is not necessarily a difference between violating copyright and appearing not to violate copyright (but still violating it by virtue of creating a derivative work via changing some words)
18:07.28mxsif you want to be morally pure, you read the strategy and then write your own description thereof in your own words, not using the reference page as a template :>
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18:18.25Adysmxs: you cant copyright a strategy like that
18:18.48Adysits not even a documentation
18:19.04Adysit belongs to blizz if anything seeing how it is
18:19.40Adysbut since its early ptr, its ok to delete it if it annoys x or y site
18:20.49Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Dordanil&curid=211806&diff=1789361&oldid=1780854
18:20.55Adysdid I fail here ><
18:21.19Fisker-http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jouhJkUo3dGMQPQK0WF5cTft3ZtAD96K27HG0 i lol'd
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18:55.46Joshkdmw____What's up, everyone?
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18:57.45syberghostIt's a direction, opposite of down, but that's not important right now.
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19:13.11pcjhttp://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090227/NEWS0107/902270346/1055/NEWS
19:19.59pcjhttp://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/bottom_reached#49803
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23:12.50pcjhttp://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96K478O0&show_article=1
23:27.03pcjhttp://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gmNEcrbsbJxE-ybLSvYRu3Ucf3WQD96JUDD80
23:27.09pcj"claimed he was unaware of the racial stereotype linking black people with eating watermelons."
23:27.11pcjahahahaha
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