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| 00:46.19 | g0urra | goodnight |
| 00:46.26 | sacarasc | night g0urra |
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| 05:46.57 | cyph3r | what level are you done with all the deathknight quest? |
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| 05:47.44 | cyph3r | like when are you able to go back to playing with other non deathknioghts |
| 05:48.34 | Amarande | usually 58 |
| 05:48.53 | Amarande | though you could conceivably be 57 I -think-, if you ended up killing the absolute minimum number of mobs for each quest |
| 05:48.59 | Amarande | but you should be 58 normally |
| 05:49.28 | Amarande | and then you can do winterspring, silithus, and the plaguelands till 63 |
| 05:49.46 | Amarande | and then you can find that zeth'gor *still* sucks. :) |
| 05:50.04 | cyph3r | wait |
| 05:50.11 | cyph3r | can someone summom me out? |
| 05:50.14 | cyph3r | lol |
| 05:50.20 | Amarande | dont think so. |
| 05:50.27 | Amarande | though I've never actually tried, and I AM a warlock main |
| 05:50.52 | Amarande | summoning is kinda unstable and buggy of late though |
| 05:51.07 | Amarande | I've had summons result in failures as spectacular as one day when the 3.0 patch was new |
| 05:51.30 | Amarande | well ... we were on our way to get our jenkins titles |
| 05:51.37 | Amarande | and guild leader realizes he left the UBRS key in bank |
| 05:51.37 | cyph3r | well my wife was going to summon me |
| 05:51.46 | Amarande | so he hearths to get it, and I summon him back, and I broke my guild leader LOL |
| 05:52.04 | cyph3r | with recruit a friend |
| 05:52.10 | Amarande | apparently, when he accepted summons, he DC'd and kept DC'ing every time he tried to log back in, until he had a GM fix it |
| 05:52.42 | Amarande | I've also heard of summoning just flat out not working in some cases, like parts of northrend |
| 05:53.20 | Amarande | cyph3r: i'm pretty sure you have to finish the starter chain until you reach Orgrimmar before you can do anything else, though |
| 05:53.53 | Amarande | you're horde, -right-? |
| 05:53.54 | cyph3r | argh |
| 05:53.57 | cyph3r | no ally |
| 05:54.03 | Amarande | ok, the starter chain till wherever then |
| 05:54.11 | Amarande | I forget where it drops alliance off |
| 05:54.14 | cyph3r | wife is gonna kill a bitch if I'm 58 and she is 55 |
| 05:54.17 | Amarande | probably stormwind :S |
| 05:54.36 | Amarande | I'm pretty sure SW is the Orgrimmar of Alliance, so to speak |
| 05:54.49 | cyph3r | hmm |
| 05:54.50 | cyph3r | okay |
| 05:54.56 | cyph3r | are deathknights anygood end game raiding? |
| 05:55.08 | Amarande | cyph3r: given how little end game raiding has really taken place so far? |
| 05:55.10 | Amarande | it's hard to say yet |
| 05:55.20 | Amarande | only the really hardcore raid guilds are really raiding much yet |
| 05:55.30 | Amarande | I guess there's a fair number just having their first taste of naxx, but the expansion is young yet |
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| 10:28.14 | phyburn | what is the best ally class for death knight? |
| 10:28.44 | phyburn | race sorry |
| 10:30.08 | gOurra | earthen |
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| 13:39.08 | saff | anyone here play a death knight? |
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| 14:49.07 | Ose | darn |
| 14:49.24 | Ose | I need to train my [[cooking]] for the achievement |
| 14:49.25 | Dotted | Ose meant: www.wowwiki.com/cooking |
| 14:52.37 | Kalroth | s/oo/oc/r |
| 14:53.48 | winkiller | nono, you meant s/oo/ockr/ |
| 14:57.09 | Kalroth | cockrking doesn't make sense |
| 14:58.06 | winkiller | damn |
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| 15:05.02 | toxicityj1 | hey hey hey |
| 15:19.23 | pcj | hi |
| 15:39.38 | pcj | http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081215/D953527O0.html |
| 15:39.44 | pcj | what i want to know is, did he get his shoes back? |
| 15:40.30 | syberghost | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:43.45 | pcj | blogs suck |
| 17:43.49 | pcj | buuuuuurn |
| 17:44.03 | pcj | death to blogs |
| 17:44.08 | pcj | kiiiilll |
| 17:44.22 | Ose | pcj: [18:43]<Eulalia>ajax recent changes also seem to be broke'd |
| 17:44.35 | pcj | that tells me nothing |
| 17:44.37 | pcj | because they work |
| 17:45.54 | pcj | i hate blogs |
| 17:45.57 | pcj | no blogs |
| 17:47.56 | pcj | OH GOD http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Wikia_blog_articles_3.png |
| 17:47.59 | pcj | it looks terrible |
| 17:50.35 | g0urra | DIE DIE |
| 17:51.40 | pcj | http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Wikia_blog_articles_1.png |
| 17:51.42 | pcj | ewwwwwww |
| 17:51.50 | pcj | i vomited in my mouth |
| 17:52.48 | Tuqui-tuqui | =o |
| 17:52.53 | Tuqui-tuqui | wowwiki fan fiction? |
| 17:53.01 | Tuqui-tuqui | I can just imagine the steamy ones |
| 17:53.36 | g0urra | that's DNP = no-no |
| 17:53.48 | g0urra | pcj remember the troll-on-orc lesbian fanfic? |
| 17:53.53 | Tuqui-tuqui | 8D |
| 17:53.57 | pcj | no |
| 17:54.00 | g0urra | good |
| 17:54.01 | pcj | oh wait |
| 17:54.01 | pcj | yes |
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| 18:06.11 | pcj | blogs = DO NOT WANT |
| 18:08.18 | syberghost | Sounds like a disease. |
| 18:08.27 | syberghost | "I'd like to go clubbing with you, but I've got blogs." |
| 18:10.38 | pcj | or a body function |
| 18:10.46 | pcj | walk in a room, "Ewww, who blogged?" |
| 18:13.31 | pcj | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1094777/The-cat-purr-fect-vision-Almost-blind-moggie-Ernest-life-transformed-wearing-CONTACT-LENS.html |
| 18:15.17 | syberghost | It's a cat. Kill it and get another cat. |
| 18:15.41 | syberghost | Or, better yet, just kill it. |
| 18:18.58 | pcj | the comments are hilarious |
| 18:19.10 | pcj | "Seventeen years ago after my girlfriend died a friend brought a tiny black kitten around. He grew into a great buddy and trusted friend, a source of pleasure and amusement, so much so that when he died this year I actually wept as I walked away from that final journey to the vets. His stoical demeanor during the short illness which killed him was quite heart rending and maybe a lesson in dignity to humankind." |
| 18:20.05 | syberghost | "also, his meat was surprisingly tender and not at all gamey" |
| 18:22.03 | pcj | well if blogs come on i am voting all of kirkburn's blogs down |
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| 18:28.17 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Blog_articles_and_more... |
| 18:32.38 | Tuqui-tuqui | i see no linked discussion >:{ |
| 18:32.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | lies! |
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| 19:04.01 | Eraclito | i so hate the grinch respawn rate |
| 19:04.19 | Eraclito | and i so hate the race/class snowflakes |
| 19:04.28 | Eraclito | i'm like a living target |
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| 19:04.47 | pcj | lol |
| 19:04.51 | pcj | ololol |
| 19:07.23 | g0urra | olollolool |
| 19:08.24 | sacarasc | :o |
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| 21:27.03 | InZ|JC | hello |
| 21:34.52 | pcj | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/13392165725-dear-blizzard-please-remove-this-achievement.html |
| 21:34.54 | pcj | i lol'd |
| 21:37.31 | Amarande | LOL |
| 21:37.32 | Amarande | the only achievement I've ever had a genuine objection to, really, is "Needy" |
| 21:38.04 | Amarande | and that's because I thought (though not being 80 yet with access to the right drops, I don't know if that's actually come to pass) that it would result in people rolling need who have no legitimate right to |
| 21:38.15 | Amarande | of course, given how much WotLK instance loot seems to SUCK so far ... |
| 21:38.34 | Amarande | pcj: when does wotlk instance loot stop sucking? |
| 21:38.36 | Amarande | not till heroics/raids? |
| 21:38.55 | pcj | right |
| 21:39.18 | Amarande | like the other day I run nexus, and I need on the cloth boots from Keri, because they are indeed a significant upgrade |
| 21:39.28 | Amarande | ... then I go turn in the quest and get upgraded straight out of said boots :S |
| 21:40.20 | Amarande | I also wondered if the needy achievement would make dream shards cost way more than large prismies did, but I can't remember if that's the case now |
| 21:40.30 | Amarande | that concern being rather more rational |
| 21:40.56 | Amarande | as presumably, a lot of unwanted blues that would otherwise go to the DEer in the party would end up going to random members going for a shot at the achievement |
| 21:41.15 | Amarande | and thus be vendored, instead of being sharded |
| 21:42.24 | syberghost | Gasp! You mean everybody gets to participate in the game, not just Enchanters? |
| 21:42.28 | syberghost | Perish the thought. |
| 21:43.22 | Amarande | syberghost: I don't think anyone complained about that in 2.x :) |
| 21:44.16 | Amarande | there are also a number of achievements that I suspect are pretty much impossible, but I don't really object to the mechanics of them. LOL |
| 21:44.49 | Amarande | like there are probably only a scant few battlegroup/faction combinations where there's enough of a disparity in skill in AV to be able to get the 6-minute AV |
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| 21:55.37 | pcj | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/13392255141-blizz-fails-on-world-event-achievement-again.html |
| 21:55.38 | pcj | lol |
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| 22:03.03 | Amarande | good grief, people whining about that |
| 22:03.06 | Amarande | how about say someone like me |
| 22:03.21 | Amarande | who now is going to have to hunt down a group to do the friggin Ogri'la prequest chain to get my winter veil achievement :P |
| 22:03.36 | Amarande | since I never did that in BC |
| 22:03.42 | Amarande | I focused on SSO, and Netherwing |
| 22:05.44 | pcj | oh |
| 22:05.49 | pcj | i was lol'ing at the character's name |
| 22:06.12 | Amarande | pcj: there seem to be a lot of people complaining because you have to grind cooking to get the winter veil achievement :S |
| 22:06.21 | pcj | oh |
| 22:06.48 | Amarande | I'd say the most annoying one overall will probably be the With a Little Helper ... one on a PvE server |
| 22:07.15 | pcj | ...not really |
| 22:07.24 | pcj | the fastest way to farm hk is in BGs |
| 22:07.26 | pcj | in any server |
| 22:08.58 | Amarande | pcj: the main thing is that BGs are going to be chaos |
| 22:09.04 | Amarande | because once you die, you lose your little gnome buff |
| 22:09.29 | pcj | so just /afk, wait out the debuff, get the gnome again and continue |
| 22:09.31 | Amarande | a lot of people will probably desert on death |
| 22:09.37 | Amarande | yeah, that's what I mean |
| 22:09.49 | pcj | will make for fast bgs |
| 22:10.20 | Amarande | yeah, the ogri'la one's probably going to be more of a pain for me |
| 22:10.36 | Amarande | I don't know if the prequest chain can be soloed even at 80 |
| 22:10.37 | pcj | wowhead says wintergrasp may be a better way to do the gnome |
| 22:10.49 | Amarande | I'm only level 73, wintergrasp would be a good way to give other people their gnome achievements |
| 22:11.06 | pcj | nah, get in a tank |
| 22:11.21 | Amarande | on the good side, I can't get my proto drake till 2010 anyway so this year isn't as critical as otherwise |
| 22:11.33 | pcj | nah |
| 22:11.36 | sacarasc | Amarande: i have the same ogri'la problem as you |
| 22:11.44 | Amarande | I'm going to be on vacation for basically the entire Love is in the Air event |
| 22:11.49 | Amarande | no way am I going to get that one in 2009 |
| 22:11.49 | pcj | the meta-achievement "Merrymaker" explicitly lists the present from this year |
| 22:11.51 | sacarasc | AND i'm hated by the goblins which teach the next level of cooking |
| 22:12.53 | Amarande | pcj: it just says "open one of the presents" |
| 22:12.59 | Amarande | I'm pretty sure all the year-specific things are FoS |
| 22:12.59 | pcj | no |
| 22:13.18 | Amarande | or will be made FoS in favor of a new achievement |
| 22:13.29 | pcj | Gain 25 crashes with your Crashin' Thrashin' Racer during the Feast of Winter Veil. |
| 22:13.54 | Amarande | since Blizzard seems to be pretty scrupulous about point-giving achievements being ones that don't lock out |
| 22:14.10 | Amarande | pcj: that one might well be removed in 3.0.8 then, if you can indeed only get the racer this year |
| 22:14.20 | Amarande | sometimes they've made mistakes, like with the infamous mask achievement at halloween |
| 22:16.45 | AckisWork | how do you get the racer this year btw? |
| 22:18.13 | pcj | presents |
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| 22:33.42 | pcj | GAH |
| 22:33.45 | pcj | stupid wikia notice |
| 22:34.23 | Amarande | pcj: "wikia will self destruct in five seconds, hope you backed up all your pages, have a nice day"? :) |
| 22:35.00 | Amarande | heh, the last wikia wiki I've contributed to, I think I'm the only one who ever contributes to it these days |
| 22:35.18 | pcj | All wikis will be "read-only" from 9am - 10am UTC Tuesday morning (that's 1:00am Pacific, 4:00am Eastern). During this time, editing will be disabled while we do some routine maintenance, but you will still be able to access the site. |
| 22:36.01 | Amarande | pcj: well, that means you can get in some extra WoW before maintenance, and then you can edit wiki during maint :) |
| 22:40.05 | Sandwichman2449 | What is [[Template:Multisource]] for? |
| 22:40.06 | Dotted | Sandwichman2449 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Multisource |
| 22:40.12 | pcj | blame fandyllic |
| 22:40.17 | pcj | or was it baggins |
| 22:40.34 | pcj | yeah baggins |
| 22:40.53 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Multisource |
| 22:42.42 | Amarande | the last wikia wiki I contributed to was chess, by the way |
| 22:43.16 | Amarande | wow, someone's actually been adding more to it since |
| 22:44.48 | Sandwichman2449 | So it is to prevent stacking soandso-section templates with a proto-appearances project mixed in. Section templates AFAIK are only important for contradictions and timelines. I do not get it. |
| 22:45.24 | Tuqui-tuqui | I like sammiches |
| 22:45.59 | Sandwichman2449 | As do I. Hence the name. |
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| 22:46.38 | Sandwichman2449 | Im tempted to use 'deprecated' or 'now lacking in a point' in regards to the template. |
| 22:47.04 | Sandwichman2449 | As for my name, it was rather spur-of-the-moment... |
| 22:47.53 | Tuqui-tuqui | Sandwichman is good |
| 22:47.57 | Tuqui-tuqui | 2449? |
| 22:47.59 | Tuqui-tuqui | :| |
| 22:48.47 | Sandwichman2449 | Yes. 2448= WoWWiki, 2449= Wikia gaming (now merged) |
| 22:49.17 | Tuqui-tuqui | ponders |
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| 23:35.51 | Sandwichman2449 | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Sandwichman2449/Citation_project#Style <-How can I say this part better? |
| 23:41.57 | Sandwichman2449 | Anyone? |
| 23:44.33 | Sandwichman2449 | I want to update WoWWiki:Citation. |
| 23:46.55 | Sandwichman2449 | I'll be bold. |
| 23:49.04 | Sandwichman2449 | does not want to say 'vote'. |
