| 00:00.17 | mxs | I never reported that latter problem either, having experienced what happens when you do earlier. |
| 00:01.03 | Charitwo | ~fisker- |
| 00:01.03 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, fisker- is Get to da choppa! |
| 00:01.48 | mxs | And if you ever do get the task of administrating the internet connectivity in a school and its servers, you'll be in from political bullshit from all sides too -- from teachers who try to get you removed from the network and harass you in class because you could possibly check their internet research, deduce what might be on some test in the future, and cheat that way. |
| 00:02.09 | mxs | (when the real problem they have is the fact that somebody else's classroom got net connectivity and theirs did not) |
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| 00:03.02 | mxs | now make the wow servers come up again before I tell you all about that one time, at band camp. |
| 00:03.09 | Strawberry | Hey can I have voice? |
| 00:03.17 | Charitwo | no |
| 00:03.26 | Fisker- | lol |
| 00:03.29 | Strawberry | Whatever |
| 00:03.38 | Fisker- | I think i messed with a powerleveler |
| 00:03.54 | bleeter | mxs: soz, I've got distracted by google mail video/voice |
| 00:03.58 | Fisker- | some greengeared horde which can barely speak english is calling my mother a pig and a dog |
| 00:04.04 | Fisker- | and then telling me my mothers mother is dead |
| 00:04.34 | mxs | Fisker-: so a dirty motherless bitch then ? |
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| 00:05.22 | Strawberry | Hey who is a girl here? |
| 00:05.26 | mxs | (the dog-term bitch, naturally, not the derogatory :) |
| 00:05.30 | Adys | your mom |
| 00:05.34 | mxs | Strawberry: Fisker- is. |
| 00:05.44 | mxs | at least he screams like one. |
| 00:06.00 | mxs | *hides* |
| 00:06.02 | Strawberry | Hey Fisker do you want to go to privite chat? |
| 00:06.19 | Adys | ok thats it |
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| 00:06.22 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Strawberry!n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys] by Adys (Adys) |
| 00:08.07 | pcj | hey fisker do you want to go to private chat |
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| 00:10.05 | Adys | pcj: u want privite chat |
| 00:10.13 | X3 | gross. |
| 00:10.16 | mxs | Adys: privite chat ? |
| 00:10.19 | mxs | I brought cookies ! |
| 00:10.20 | Adys | privite |
| 00:10.34 | mxs | and candy |
| 00:10.36 | pcj | 2 dollar! |
| 00:10.50 | mxs | # |
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| 00:11.01 | mxs | observes how Fisker- seems to be preoccupied right now |
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| 00:11.14 | mxs | feels kinda sorry for Strawberry now |
| 00:11.38 | mxs | wonder whether he brought his robe and wizard hat |
| 00:12.37 | Fisker- | the chinese i just talked about told me "ni ma bi" |
| 00:14.56 | Charitwo | strawberry has been banned from #wikia before, now he/she's just really annoying |
| 00:15.57 | bleeter | Adys: private gmail video chat wit u nao, k? |
| 00:16.02 | Adys | privite? |
| 00:16.20 | bleeter | sshh no1 wil no |
| 00:16.25 | Adys | Charitwo: you should have said so |
| 00:16.30 | Charitwo | strawberry is also like 13 or something |
| 00:16.46 | Adys | he looked single to me |
| 00:16.51 | Adys | BADUM-PSSHHH |
| 00:17.04 | Adys | oookayyy so. |
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| 00:18.54 | Fisker- | how do you disable smooth mana/energy bars again? |
| 00:19.38 | Tsurphr | you can disable that? |
| 00:19.46 | Tsurphr | I thought they removed the tick |
| 00:20.01 | Adys | predictedpower |
| 00:20.02 | Adys | iirc |
| 00:20.56 | Fisker- | yep |
| 00:20.59 | Fisker- | thanks :D |
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| 00:22.17 | Tsurphr | so its just a UI thing? |
| 00:22.55 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 00:23.03 | Fisker- | you don't have the mana it predicts either |
| 00:24.48 | Adys | sort of |
| 00:24.51 | Adys | its in the client |
| 00:25.08 | Adys | you do have it, serverside |
| 00:25.56 | Adys | by having the smooth regen all you do is let the client predict your mana/energy/whatever and not throw you an instant error when you click a grayed-out spell |
| 00:27.15 | Fisker- | so Adys figured out yet if that account upgrade works with all standard -> CE? |
| 00:27.23 | Adys | cba |
| 00:27.30 | Fisker- | relevant to my interests :( |
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| 00:28.31 | Zirak62 | hi |
| 00:28.54 | Zirak62 | servers still down |
| 00:29.00 | Fisker- | thanks for the heads up |
| 00:29.41 | Zirak62 | my realm is always one of the last to load |
| 00:29.48 | Adys | k |
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| 00:36.12 | Tsurphr | the whole internet is crapping out |
| 00:40.39 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Df4deb4e1e90be37b5d7583c20d6639f6dc800a7.png |
| 00:44.14 | mxs | Tsurphr: what, more scat porn ? |
| 00:44.40 | pcj | Maintenance Update |
| 00:44.40 | pcj | All realms are currently offline. |
| 00:44.41 | pcj | hmm |
| 00:44.48 | pcj | obvious alert is obvious |
| 00:44.57 | mxs | an update ! |
| 00:44.58 | mxs | an update ! |
| 00:45.03 | mxs | oh my god it's an update ! |
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| 00:47.36 | Adys | Today we hotfixed the "Not In My House" achievement to only require 2 kills rather than 10. The user interface will still display that 10 kills are required but the achievement will complete once 2 kills occur. |
| 00:47.39 | Adys | bah |
| 00:48.02 | Adys | hotfix the fucking we had it all along >< |
| 00:49.57 | centrix | omg servers are still down /sigh |
| 00:50.17 | Adys | omgomgomg! |
| 00:50.19 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.41 | centrix | lol |
| 00:50.56 | centrix | i was hoping they'd be up with my 1hr long drive home from work |
| 00:51.15 | Adys | take a walk outside the weather is beautiful |
| 00:51.32 | centrix | hell no it's not it's raining here |
| 00:51.46 | Adys | move out |
| 00:52.07 | centrix | lol |
| 00:52.16 | centrix | i actually just moved in... |
| 00:53.08 | Fisker- | hah Adys |
| 00:53.14 | Fisker- | i lost a AB 2000-1990 |
| 00:53.15 | Fisker- | oh wait |
| 00:53.16 | Fisker- | damn :( |
| 00:53.19 | centrix | ...so much for the 2hr update |
| 00:53.26 | Fisker- | Should be achieved for both sides waah! |
| 00:54.04 | centrix | Fisker: ur server up? |
| 00:54.13 | Adys | EU |
| 00:54.28 | centrix | aw just US is down? |
| 00:54.38 | Adys | yes, EU gets maintenance on wednesdays.. |
| 00:54.53 | centrix | aw did not know this |
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| 01:02.56 | a13x | :O |
| 01:03.01 | a13x | so quiet |
| 01:03.24 | pcj | SORRY |
| 01:03.30 | Adys | TOO LATE |
| 01:03.34 | pcj | was it something i said |
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| 01:03.49 | Adys | probably |
| 01:04.27 | pcj | i've got it |
| 01:04.33 | pcj | blizzard is probably still on daylight saving time |
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| 01:10.32 | opant | BUFFALO?? |
| 01:10.49 | Adys | no |
| 01:11.31 | Nosnam | Yeah, buffalo :) |
| 01:11.39 | Nosnam | Well actually about 30 minutes south |
| 01:13.22 | pcj | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo |
| 01:13.31 | Adys | SORRY |
| 01:13.32 | Nechckn | whoa... scary |
| 01:14.22 | Nechckn | so... like Boston? |
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| 01:15.57 | Nechckn | Colden, maybe? |
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| 01:16.17 | Nosnam | Oh if you were tring to guess where I'm from; Silver Creek |
| 01:16.30 | Nechckn | Ah.. that way |
| 01:16.36 | Nosnam | You live in the area too? |
| 01:16.46 | Nechckn | From there, originally |
| 01:16.54 | Nechckn | Springville, specifically |
| 01:17.05 | Nechckn | but family all over the whole WNY area |
| 01:17.38 | Nosnam | I definitely want to get out of this area sometime soon |
| 01:18.15 | Nechckn | It was fine to grow up there... but I would be a serial killer had I endured it forever =) |
| 01:18.27 | Nosnam | Heh, I am just so tired of snow |
| 01:18.56 | Nechckn | very mid-western in attitudes, etc.. and the damn snow can go all global-warming-away for all I care |
| 01:19.13 | Nosnam | Hahah yeah I'm with ou |
| 01:19.15 | Nosnam | *you |
| 01:20.04 | Nechckn | biggest reason I stayed away after leaving- if the weather were simply cold with a few feet here and there, then fine. But a foot or so every few days for months on end... eesh. |
| 01:21.11 | mxs | "Connecting to www.worldofwarcraft.com|12.129.242.22|:80... failed: Connection refused." |
| 01:21.24 | pcj | DENIED |
| 01:23.38 | Fisker- | DENIED |
| 01:23.40 | Fisker- | 1-0 |
| 01:26.53 | pcj | you want privite chat fisker? |
| 01:31.29 | mxs | s/k/t/ |
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| 01:52.45 | pcj | "Additionally, information will be sent shortly to all characters through the in-game mail system. This message will provide further details concerning today's mail issue." |
| 01:52.54 | pcj | boooring |
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| 01:53.21 | Nosnam | I'm hoping it is "Bank error in your favor! Collect 1000g" |
| 01:55.10 | pcj | pfft 1000g would be a loss for me |
| 01:55.46 | Nosnam | Yeah... if expired auction listings are gone, 1000g is way short for me too |
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| 02:02.53 | mxs | I am impressed |
| 02:02.58 | mxs | ther is an official downloader/installer |
| 02:03.14 | mxs | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/download/clients/pc/InstallWoW.exe |
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| 02:04.12 | mxs | it will install wotlk |
| 02:04.20 | mxs | with a proper download |
| 02:04.35 | sacarasc | groovy |
| 02:05.08 | mxs | the groovy part is the speed |
| 02:05.12 | mxs | 1.8mbyte/s |
| 02:05.15 | sacarasc | wow |
| 02:05.24 | sacarasc | how long will it take in total, though? |
| 02:05.35 | mxs | 6.5 gigabytes |
| 02:05.52 | mxs | You might want to do that /now/ as opposed to when the servers are overrun |
| 02:05.53 | sacarasc | just over an hour |
| 02:06.08 | mxs | well my connection won't do more than 1.8mbyte/s |
| 02:06.49 | sacarasc | oooh, 3 free days marked up on my account |
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| 02:07.30 | mxs | yupp, streaming installer off a proper CDN |
| 02:07.35 | mxs | no BitTorrent download involved |
| 02:07.49 | mxs | dist.worldofwarcraft.com.edgesuite.net |
| 02:08.14 | sacarasc | i can't see that on the european site yet |
| 02:08.23 | pcj | europeans don't deserve it |
| 02:08.42 | sacarasc | :( |
| 02:08.43 | sacarasc | yes |
| 02:08.45 | sacarasc | we're dirty |
| 02:08.50 | sacarasc | especially Fisker- |
| 02:09.06 | Dotted | already downloading the eu client from RS |
| 02:09.40 | sacarasc | RS? |
| 02:09.44 | mxs | rapidshare |
| 02:09.51 | mxs | Dotted: likely the ISO version though, right ? |
| 02:09.52 | sacarasc | ah |
| 02:09.58 | Dotted | ya |
| 02:10.06 | sacarasc | i'm just gonna install from the dvd |
| 02:10.12 | sacarasc | i feel like a noob |
| 02:10.17 | sacarasc | a honest noob |
| 02:11.43 | mxs | well, the enGB files ARE up on the servers |
| 02:13.03 | mxs | just need to find the corresponding installwow.exe ;) |
| 02:13.54 | sacarasc | should i sleep tomorrow night? yes/no |
| 02:14.08 | centrix | ...servers should be up soon....supposdily |
| 02:14.45 | centrix | naw just stay up lol |
| 02:15.06 | centrix | then u can be in the crowded group of peeps trying 2 lvl @ the same time |
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| 02:26.37 | mxs | and just like that, the installer stopped working |
| 02:26.50 | mxs | they removed the necessary file from the us.version.worldofwarcraft.com servers |
| 02:28.05 | Fisker- | giev installwow.exe |
| 02:28.06 | Fisker- | i want to see |
| 02:28.07 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 02:28.27 | mxs | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/download/clients/pc/InstallWoW.exe |
| 02:28.48 | Arrowmaster | page load error |
| 02:28.57 | mxs | yupp, worldofwarcraft.com is overloaded |
| 02:29.05 | mxs | but that is not the problem with the installer atm |
| 02:30.23 | Fisker- | thought it was pulled down |
| 02:30.35 | Fisker- | also /account/ leads me to believe it's protected |
| 02:32.32 | mxs | the installer itself is not pulled, but the file it relies on |
| 02:32.34 | mxs | bastards :P |
| 02:32.34 | Fisker- | lets hate mxs |
| 02:34.11 | Fisker- | hates mxs |
| 02:34.31 | centrix | but y? |
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| 02:35.53 | Fisker- | i have to wait for the site to not be shitty to get the installer |
| 02:36.53 | mxs | that won't help you |
| 02:37.05 | mxs | they pulled the installer instruction file |
| 02:37.09 | pcj | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12454551074&sid=1&pageNo=23#453 |
| 02:37.10 | pcj | pwnt |
| 02:37.24 | Fisker- | service temporarily unavailable etc. |
| 02:37.30 | Fisker- | mxs i don't want to download the client |
| 02:37.37 | mxs | pcj: what's it say ? |
| 02:37.58 | pcj | more internal testing before realms will be brought up |
| 02:38.06 | mxs | haha |
| 02:38.12 | pcj | i.e., sometime in the next 72 hours |
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| 02:50.35 | Fisker- | btw mxs |
| 02:50.39 | Fisker- | i'm playing on the EU servers |
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| 02:52.37 | Nik | Greets |
| 02:53.43 | pcj | hello |
| 02:53.58 | Nik | Any server news? |
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| 02:54.52 | Nik | Greets |
| 02:56.10 | Nik | ? |
| 02:59.28 | pcj | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/12637003718-this-was-just-a-maintenence.html |
| 02:59.40 | pcj | "I can assure you this extended down time does not relate to any perceived performance issues with the upcoming expansion release Thursday. The timing is just that bad. " |
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| 03:00.07 | Slaughterhousedb | Greets |
| 03:00.12 | Charitwo | you want privite chat pcj? |
| 03:00.15 | pcj | hi |
| 03:00.19 | mxs | "I can assure you this extended down time does not relate to any perceived performance issues with the upcoming expansion release Thursday. The timing is just that bad." |
| 03:00.22 | mxs | Riiiiiiiiight :> |
| 03:00.30 | mxs | I love how he tossed "perceived" in there |
| 03:00.49 | mxs | shit, pcj picked up on the same sentence |
| 03:00.52 | Slaughterhousedb | So, it's just an outage? |
| 03:01.36 | pcj | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/12454392426-seriously-who-is-in-charge--bliz.html |
| 03:01.42 | pcj | " The web database is currently maxed at 100% CPU usage. " |
| 03:02.16 | mxs | "forum traffic increasing exponentially" <-- that right there is a sign of the intelligence this poster has. |
| 03:02.38 | mxs | No, your forum traffic did NOT increase exponentially. Even if it had, your statement would have been absolutely fucking meaningless. |
| 03:03.24 | pcj | eh he just has something to read off of |
| 03:03.29 | mxs | "The web database is currently maxed at 100% CPU usage." Gee. Couldn't have anticipated forum usage at downtime. After 4 years. |
| 03:03.31 | pcj | not like he knows wtf he's talking about |
| 03:03.57 | mxs | "This will also alleviate performance issues on the forums until we can make some more robust adjustments." <-- when ? 5 years from now ? 10 ? |
| 03:04.26 | pcj | they'll probably switch to phpBB |
| 03:04.39 | mxs | oh, I have respect for the level of traffic on the forums |
| 03:04.43 | mxs | healthy respect, you might say |
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| 03:05.04 | mxs | I just don't see how they could not have, say, taken a note of what CNN does in high-traffic times. |
| 03:05.25 | pcj | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/12640063922-ingame-mails.html |
| 03:05.26 | pcj | omg |
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| 03:05.29 | Slaughterhousedb | Go to commercial? |
| 03:05.32 | pcj | they really did lose it all |
| 03:05.35 | mxs | that is, turn off most of the dynamic features, make almost everything static, and put the updates on the backend, in 5 minute cycles |
| 03:05.37 | bleeter | wow |
| 03:06.28 | bleeter | so the lost everything since 3.0.3, and are hoping to recover |
| 03:06.42 | bleeter | *they |
| 03:06.43 | mxs | bleeter: and there is an expansion slated for thursday |
| 03:06.46 | mxs | those poor, poor GMS |
| 03:07.08 | pcj | hmm time to report some people who are in violation of the RP server naming policy |
| 03:07.35 | centrix | which is? |
| 03:07.42 | mxs | pcj: I like the way you think :P |
| 03:07.59 | mxs | and maybe send in a ticket about each and every botter in battlegrounds |
| 03:08.13 | mxs | (and don't be scared to hop on an alt to open a second petition if the first one is full) |
| 03:08.25 | centrix | lol |
| 03:09.47 | Slaughterhousedb | Audible sigh. I'm going back to CoH, try again on Thursday [yok yok yok] |
| 03:10.24 | pcj | what sucks is i and a lot of other people won't know if we're missing mail |
| 03:10.40 | pcj | so there's nothing we can do if they just dropped it |
| 03:10.58 | mxs | I am trying to think of what was lost |
| 03:11.10 | mxs | a couple hundred inscriptions probably |
| 03:11.17 | mxs | 12 mounts I got mailed yesterday |
| 03:11.26 | mxs | maybe 1000g or so in ah gold |
| 03:11.50 | mxs | I am glad I have not yet mailed my WotLK mats to the characters that will need it |
| 03:11.54 | Jamash | according to zarhym the items are not gone, but the individual bits of mail are |
| 03:12.07 | Jamash | so you should get the items and gold back |
| 03:12.17 | mxs | Jamash: hopefully :) |
| 03:12.21 | pcj | what about the online love letters from the internet girls i cyber with i keep in my mailbox |
| 03:12.27 | mxs | I still don't know why I have 12 black war bears in my mail though :> |
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| 03:12.35 | Jamash | pcj: BALEETED |
| 03:12.38 | mxs | pcj: and what about all those good gold offers ? |
| 03:12.46 | pcj | NOOOOOOO |
| 03:12.49 | pcj | DO NOT WANT |
| 03:13.07 | Boulderfist-Deja | anyone know if blizzard is offline? |
| 03:13.16 | mxs | yes, everybody knows they are online. |
| 03:13.17 | pcj | i heard there's a blizzard in north dakota |
| 03:13.20 | pcj | if that helps |
| 03:13.22 | mxs | It's just the servers and website that is offline. |
| 03:13.38 | Boulderfist-Deja | yeah i cant even check the realm status |
| 03:14.26 | wwolf | how long has this been going on? |
| 03:15.29 | pcj | uh |
| 03:15.37 | pcj | since 9am pst |
| 03:15.51 | pcj | or is that 5am |
| 03:15.54 | pcj | yeah 5am |
| 03:16.03 | centrix | yup 5am |
| 03:16.21 | centrix | ...but servers did come up for like 5 min. lol only 2 be shut down again |
| 03:16.44 | wwolf001 | oh damn you mean the weeklet downtime over ran by 12 hrs? or is this planned? |
| 03:16.51 | pcj | not planned |
| 03:16.56 | pcj | they shat our mail |
| 03:17.12 | wwolf001 | shat our mail? |
| 03:17.17 | centrix | as in it's gone |
| 03:17.23 | centrix | the |
| 03:17.27 | centrix | are trying 2 recover it |
| 03:17.30 | wwolf001 | they crashed a DB |
| 03:17.33 | wwolf001 | lol |
| 03:18.28 | wwolf001 | well this sucks |
| 03:19.35 | pcj | it's a good thing today was a holiday |
| 03:19.47 | pcj | i might have wanted to play all day if i had to go to work |
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| 03:20.14 | centrix | lol |
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| 03:20.55 | serverdownsucks | everyone having fun with the servers being down, i know im not, lol |
| 03:21.17 | Corgan | HEY YOUR NAME IS SO FUNNY |
| 03:21.23 | kd3 | meh. |
| 03:21.33 | bleeter | Corgan: yours is funnier |
| 03:21.39 | Corgan | IT'S MAKING ME FALL OUT OF MY CHAIR |
| 03:21.53 | bleeter | NURSE!!! |
| 03:22.02 | pcj | no corgan i think that's the alcohol |
| 03:22.18 | bleeter | oh, even more reason then |
| 03:22.22 | bleeter | NNNUUURRRRSSSSEEEE!!!! |
| 03:25.19 | CreditDefaultSwa | Does anyone have an update later then 5:50pst? |
| 03:25.55 | pcj | yes |
| 03:25.59 | pcj | realms aren't up yet |
| 03:26.06 | pcj | -7:24 pm PST |
| 03:26.18 | rev_ | wowinsier has info about reimbursement |
| 03:26.22 | rev_ | realms are still down |
| 03:26.25 | rev_ | insider* |
| 03:27.15 | pcj | oooold |
| 03:31.50 | serverdownsucks | last info they are saying 7:45 pst , but i have a bridge to sell you if you believe that |
| 03:31.53 | Tsurphr | weird, the notices are gone |
| 03:32.04 | kd3 | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 03:32.07 | kd3 | still there |
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| 03:32.15 | pcj | just slow |
| 03:32.27 | pcj | o sht |
| 03:32.41 | Tsurphr | and the "suggest realm" screen shows "Development" as the region instead of US |
| 03:32.52 | serverdownsucks | if they are saying 7:45pst now , i would guess more like 10:45pst, lol |
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| 03:38.20 | Tsurphr | so bored I'm playing WCIII |
| 03:38.57 | serverdownsucks | i was checkin to see if i still had runescape, lol |
| 03:40.36 | bleeter | hmm, I wonder... has anyone tried blending a CE? |
| 03:41.35 | Corgan | lol |
| 03:43.12 | mxs | bleeter: as in blender blending like iPhone blending ? |
| 03:43.25 | bleeter | is there any other type worth considering? |
| 03:44.00 | bleeter | of course, for full effect one would need to install said CE, get it up and running... then throw everything including the computer and the CE Box and poster etc. into the blender |
| 03:45.22 | mxs | you are forgetting the screenshot of the 10 level 70 characters on the login screen, and the simultaneous deletion of the account by way of doing a bannable offense |
| 03:45.29 | bleeter | oddly enough... when a local ISP became the national distributor for Chumby, the first user question put to the CEO from his posted announcement was 'Does it blend?' |
| 03:45.38 | bleeter | http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1079014 |
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| 03:56.25 | serverdownsucks | this is really horrible, i certainly cannot wait to see how long its down after i load up the expansion,,,,,,, |
| 03:56.52 | mxs | and you made a nick all of your own for it, serverdownsucks |
| 03:56.55 | CreditDefaultSwa | Seems like they have decided not to post an expected uptime now. |
| 03:56.58 | mxs | that's how pissed off you are |
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| 03:57.30 | mxs | gonna go get some sleep :) |
| 03:57.45 | serverdownsucks | think the blizzard folks did, lol |
| 03:58.02 | centrix | heh i'm sure they're not sleeping |
| 04:03.38 | pcj | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/12642324108-select-forums-readonly.html |
| 04:07.59 | Jamash | "select forums", huh |
| 04:08.14 | Jamash | meaning "some but we're not telling you which" |
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| 04:13.13 | pcj | what would be awwwesome if they resent all the gold i made in the last 15 days |
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| 04:13.51 | Fenwraith | Evening |
| 04:14.16 | Fenwraith | Anyojne here |
| 04:14.25 | Jamash | nobody here but us chickens |
| 04:14.46 | Fenwraith | Fun stuff |
| 04:14.48 | pcj | oh god the lich king stole my mail |
| 04:15.29 | Fenwraith | What servers do yall play on |
| 04:15.40 | Jamash | Kil'jaeden US |
| 04:15.53 | pcj | maelstrom us |
| 04:16.17 | Fenwraith | Bloodscalp level 10 human rogue |
| 04:16.23 | Fenwraith | us |
| 04:17.01 | Fenwraith | Never knew how awesome a human rogue could be |
| 04:17.40 | pcj | fandy... |
| 04:18.30 | Fenwraith | Any idea when the forums and servers are gonna be up |
| 04:19.23 | pcj | soon |
| 04:19.27 | pcj | [[Soon]] |
| 04:19.27 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
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| 04:23.32 | Fenwraith | Dotted that was funny |
| 04:23.48 | Dotted | yeah im a funny guy |
| 04:24.22 | Fenwraith | its funny yet true |
| 04:24.32 | pcj | yeah sometimes we just laugh at dotted |
| 04:24.58 | Fenwraith | laughing at isn't good laughing witjh is much better |
| 04:25.44 | pcj | not when it's dotted |
| 04:26.34 | Fenwraith | I see |
| 04:27.26 | Fenwraith | So what are yall doing until the servers come back up |
| 04:27.42 | Fenwraith | Besides chatting on here |
| 04:27.51 | pcj | reading chat on here |
| 04:28.21 | pcj | and rendering |
| 04:28.23 | Fenwraith | What do yall play and what side |
| 04:28.34 | pcj | alliance paladin |
| 04:28.43 | Fenwraith | Nice |
| 04:28.48 | Fenwraith | levle 70 |
| 04:28.49 | pcj | yes, yes it is |
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| 04:29.55 | Fenwraith | I've played a rogue on horde side and they are not half as good as my human rogue |
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| 04:33.35 | Fenwraith | Have any of you heard of pandora radio |
| 04:35.05 | Fenwraith | I have an snes emulator with a bunch of games i'm curently playing breath of fire |
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| 04:40.02 | m35 | ya pandora radio is pretty cool |
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| 04:47.33 | CreditDefaultSwa | Looks like some realms are back online |
| 04:48.16 | TheFerret22 | they will probably go back down |
| 04:48.29 | CreditDefaultSwa | Ya, I'm not geting my hopes up; |
| 04:48.50 | pcj | if not by bugs then by overloading |
| 04:49.48 | TheFerret22 | some were up about a hr ago then they went down again |
| 04:50.02 | CreditDefaultSwa | lol there is an explosion in level 1 characters |
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| 04:51.20 | TheFerret22 | how do you knwo that? |
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| 04:51.46 | CreditDefaultSwa | cause a bunch of peoples realms are down and they are going to new realms.. I see about a dozen level 1 taurens on Proudmore. :) |
| 04:52.26 | TheFerret22 | lol |
| 04:53.11 | CreditDefaultSwa | Someone yelled all realms were up in the game, but that is clearly not the case... but the list is growing. |
| 04:54.39 | opant | makes me wonder if they actually did have something planned as an event type thing |
| 04:54.49 | Jamash | hey |
| 04:54.59 | TheFerret22 | i think someone deleted something they shouldnt have |
| 04:55.06 | Jamash | my dog licked my escape key and logged me out |
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| 06:50.39 | mira | ololol |
| 06:52.37 | X3 | olololol |
| 06:58.45 | mxs | yeah,servers are ready. |
| 06:58.57 | mxs | Battleground instanceservers are down, and release has not even started yet :> |
| 07:01.48 | mira | free welfare epics |
| 07:05.56 | X3 | are Mages getting nerfed? |
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| 08:03.47 | mxs | mira: let's see whether GMs will have the time to warn/suspend people |
| 08:16.24 | Nosnam | My defense is "I thought you gave us free gear because northrend was going to be geared towards end-game geared 70s, and this is for people that didnt have a chance to instance" >.> |
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| 08:50.12 | Fisker- | so mxs |
| 08:50.20 | Fisker- | When did the US forums go up? :P |
| 08:50.30 | Fisker- | mxs i hope so |
| 08:50.49 | Fisker- | I'm pissed for being banned for something as useless as candy corn |
| 08:50.59 | Fisker- | So i hope they stay consistent |
| 08:55.03 | sacarasc | how did you get banned for candy corn? |
| 08:55.45 | Fisker- | sacarasc i.e. getting more than one treat bag per hour |
| 08:55.56 | sacarasc | :o |
| 08:55.56 | sacarasc | HAX |
| 08:55.59 | sacarasc | BAN HIM |
| 08:56.15 | sacarasc | how did you do that, anyway? |
| 08:56.25 | sacarasc | takes notes for next year |
| 08:56.28 | Fisker- | But since i had all achievements completed pretty much on day one (And i didn't discover the addon until like halfway through) all i really gained from it were some masks and candy corn of course |
| 08:56.33 | Fisker- | sacarasc it was fixed |
| 08:56.44 | Fisker- | But there were an addon which accepted the trick & treat |
| 08:56.55 | Fisker- | and due to serverlag or whatever you could spam it a couple of times before the debuff applied |
| 08:59.12 | Fisker- | But the annoying thing was they went ahead and took my hallow's end helm and pet |
| 08:59.27 | Fisker- | So i went ahead and told them they forgot all the candy corn i had stashed |
| 08:59.43 | Fisker- | And told them to give me my items back :3 |
| 08:59.53 | sacarasc | hehe |
| 09:00.24 | sacarasc | so really you got banned for taunting them |
| 09:00.49 | sacarasc | i didn't get a squashling despite trick or treating every hour :( |
| 09:01.12 | Fisker- | nah |
| 09:01.19 | Fisker- | Everyone got banned for 24 hours |
| 09:01.24 | Fisker- | I just told them to give me my items back |
| 09:03.36 | Fisker- | Sure they'll comply though |
| 09:03.49 | Fisker- | Technically they're not allowed to take it |
| 09:03.58 | Fisker- | Well technically they're allowed to do whatever they want |
| 09:04.03 | Fisker- | But they're still bound by internal policies |
| 09:04.28 | Fisker- | And i know that they are not allowed to remove items when they have been gained legitimately |
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| 09:15.20 | sacarasc | pcj has gone! |
| 09:15.27 | sacarasc | the evil oppression is over! |
| 09:15.31 | sacarasc | cheers |
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| 09:23.57 | sacarasc | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7722420.stm |
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| 10:53.48 | mxs | Fisker-: and they have no way of knowing whether you got them this or that way. Therefore, sucks to be you. |
| 10:56.54 | mxs | besides, you will need to wait till brewfest for the mount, anyway |
| 11:05.17 | Fisker- | actually they do |
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| 11:27.24 | mxs | but are they inclined to spend the time on the guy who cheated, or the guy who got cheated ? :) |
| 11:33.22 | Fisker- | inclined? They are required to |
| 11:33.37 | Fisker- | Look at this way |
| 11:33.54 | Fisker- | They're spending time if they're suspending me and taking away my items |
| 11:34.04 | Fisker- | So why not just do nothing at all |
| 11:34.10 | Fisker- | then they would save more time |
| 11:34.35 | mxs | Fisker-: no, they are not required to. |
| 11:34.43 | Fisker- | Yes they are |
| 11:34.44 | mxs | and feeling entitled to it won't get your case heard :P |
| 11:35.03 | mxs | Fisker-: ok, let me ask you this ... what is the "or else" ? |
| 11:35.19 | Fisker- | ? |
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| 12:00.02 | mxs | what are you gonna do when they do not do as you think they have to ? |
| 12:00.38 | mxs | and yay, servers down for another 3-10 hours |
| 12:01.17 | sacarasc | wow |
| 12:01.32 | sacarasc | american servers are doing what the EU ones did last week, eh? |
| 12:02.38 | TheFerret22 | stupid servers |
| 12:03.03 | TheFerret22 | so if i gemed something i got for free, will it be removed or vanished |
| 12:03.16 | mxs | sacarasc: apparently, you could by some rinks/amulets for free without any honor or rating requirements, and some arena weapons lost their requirements |
| 12:03.27 | mxs | it will be removed and vanished |
| 12:03.47 | mxs | TheFerret22: you didn't REALLY think you'd get to keep that stuff, did you ? |
| 12:03.59 | TheFerret22 | i dont see why not, s4 just ended |
| 12:04.17 | sacarasc | lol, sounds awesome |
| 12:04.19 | mxs | sacarasc: so because this is a really big fucking deal, what with the expansion which replaces all that gear in 2 levels coming out tomorrow, they now need to take down the realms to "fix" it. |
| 12:04.47 | Fisker- | mxs go higher up and fix it the way i know it is |
| 12:05.16 | sacarasc | mxs: it could just be a symptom of something bigger at hand which they have to fix |
| 12:06.00 | mxs | sacarasc: that's the stated reason. To put the prices back on that stuff and to remove it from players' inventories and refunding their arena points. |
| 12:06.47 | TheFerret22 | they should refund all costs associated with the gear then |
| 12:09.48 | selckin1 | lol |
| 12:10.03 | selckin1 | if you where dumb enough to think you could keep it, bad luck |
| 12:10.16 | TheFerret22 | how is that dumb, its s2, when s4 is done |
| 12:16.03 | mxs | TheFerret22: it's very dumb. You pay no honor and no tokens for s4 amulets/rings while s2/3 still cost honor/tokens ? Yeah ,right, that was intended. |
| 12:16.16 | mxs | You get removed rating on 1 weapon out of 10 ? Yeah, right, working as intended. |
| 12:16.42 | mxs | Anybody who claims they thought it was intentional is intentionally trying to mislead |
| 12:17.34 | TheFerret22 | and they coulda screwed up something so not all classes, how am i susposed to know |
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| 12:20.13 | Fisker- | indeed mxs |
| 12:20.21 | Fisker- | wonders why they weren't banned! |
| 12:20.41 | TheFerret22 | because 1/2+ of the players would be banned |
| 12:21.13 | Fisker- | i doubt it |
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| 12:21.35 | TheFerret22 | i really dont, i saw a lot of people in org getting items |
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| 12:28.29 | selckin1 | it was obviously a bug, you took a gamble and loss, don't cry over it |
| 12:29.13 | TheFerret22 | im not crying over it, but if they are reimburing points, then everything shoudl be reimbursed |
| 12:32.44 | sacarasc | take it up with a gm |
| 12:33.06 | selckin1 | hi, abused the bug, can i hae my money back |
| 12:33.14 | sacarasc | exactly! |
| 12:33.43 | TheFerret22 | its more of, hey look something different, ill get it, then being told, hey a bug, we are going to delete that now |
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| 13:24.27 | pcj | that's ok, i didn't want to play today anyway |
| 13:25.35 | syberghost | pcj: you on US or EU? |
| 13:25.45 | pcj | US |
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| 13:25.54 | syberghost | Are they down again? |
| 13:25.58 | Tsurphr | yeah |
| 13:26.07 | syberghost | Wheeee. |
| 13:26.19 | Tsurphr | until as late as 7am PST |
| 13:26.35 | Tsurphr | so they say |
| 13:26.45 | pcj | which means 7pm pst probably |
| 13:27.01 | syberghost | Yeah, isn't that about the time they originally said yesterday, that wound up more like 00:30 PST? |
| 13:27.13 | Tsurphr | I gave up and went to bed |
| 13:27.20 | pcj | same |
| 13:27.25 | pcj | and then got up and still couldn't play |
| 13:27.35 | syberghost | Me too, checked this morning on the forums and their "all up now" post was at 3:30 Eastern. |
| 13:29.36 | Tsurphr | the patch notes are still at 3.03 |
| 13:29.49 | Tsurphr | if they are changing shit, how come that isn't updated |
| 13:30.29 | pcj | its hotfixed |
| 13:30.53 | Tsurphr | hotbroken is more like it |
| 13:31.03 | Tsurphr | lawl |
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| 13:53.06 | KriLL3 | btw just made this: http://www.krill3.com/alliancenorthrendmap-small.png (for web) and http://www.krill3.com/alliancenorthrendmap.png (for print) useful imo |
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| 13:57.22 | Kirkburn | Morning |
| 13:57.37 | Kirkburn | kd3, you suggested making the WotLK portal the main page? |
| 14:01.06 | Fisker- | i want you |
| 14:04.46 | syberghost | to want me... I need you to need me |
| 14:05.25 | pantomimehorse | XD |
| 14:07.50 | syberghost | Where's Pantomime Princess Margerat? |
| 14:07.58 | syberghost | Or Margaret even? |
| 14:08.36 | pantomimehorse | XD |
| 14:08.49 | pantomimehorse | gets it |
| 14:09.11 | syberghost | is very old |
| 14:09.43 | pantomimehorse | lol |
| 14:13.52 | pcj | krill you didn't put a skull on dalaran |
| 14:15.43 | Kirkburn | I still don't know where I'm gonna get my copy of WotLK >_< |
| 14:16.07 | Kirkburn | And, to top it off, I'm going to be in Poland for most of the first two weeks :P |
| 14:16.40 | pantomimehorse | 0_0 |
| 14:16.50 | pantomimehorse | is sorry |
| 14:17.33 | Fisker- | Kirkburn |
| 14:17.40 | Fisker- | give me your SC2 beta key and i'll show you |
| 14:19.36 | Fisker- | FORUMS |
| 14:19.37 | Fisker- | GIVE ME THEM |
| 14:20.34 | pantomimehorse | lol |
| 14:20.48 | pantomimehorse | bai |
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| 15:00.13 | X3 | Ugh, servers are down again |
| 15:01.20 | sacarasc | again? or still? |
| 15:01.37 | pcj | still |
| 15:01.37 | opant2 | still |
| 15:01.41 | pcj | still again |
| 15:01.54 | Ose | USlol |
| 15:01.58 | X3 | Well yesterday they were down for maintenece, up for 5 minutes, then down because of the mail, then up that night, now this morning they are down again |
| 15:02.04 | syberghost | The servers have been going down more often than pcj's mom |
| 15:02.11 | X3 | Gay. |
| 15:02.18 | X3 | Burn. |
| 15:02.43 | pcj | gay burn? |
| 15:02.49 | pcj | that sounds like a personal problem |
| 15:02.54 | opant2 | lol |
| 15:03.01 | X3 | Hahah |
| 15:03.06 | syberghost | Not sure I wanna know how you get one of those. |
| 15:03.24 | pcj | well its quite simple actually |
| 15:03.43 | syberghost | Take yer word for it. |
| 15:03.56 | pcj | i just know what fisker told me |
| 15:04.04 | opant2 | friction is your enemy |
| 15:04.33 | X3 | I wonder if we will see the place where Arthas first took Frostmourne |
| 15:04.46 | X3 | What would be cool is if we saw the WC3 scene in the CoT |
| 15:07.27 | pcj | yeah it happens |
| 15:07.37 | pcj | when you find muradin |
| 15:07.39 | pcj | err |
| 15:07.42 | pcj | i can't say |
| 15:07.55 | X3 | Yeah |
| 15:08.02 | Ose | SPOILARZ! |
| 15:08.13 | sacarasc | pcj is a walking spoiler |
| 15:08.40 | Fisker- | haha wtf |
| 15:08.40 | pcj | anyway |
| 15:08.42 | pcj | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz-WvSBHcsE |
| 15:08.43 | Fisker- | fail @ danish media |
| 15:08.58 | Fisker- | OMG WOW IS ALLOWING YOU TO ADVANCE VIRTUALLY |
| 15:09.00 | Fisker- | NEVER SEEN BEFORE |
| 15:09.03 | Fisker- | OMGOGMOMG WORLD OF WARCRACK |
| 15:09.19 | X3 | pcj: Holy crap you can see it |
| 15:12.19 | syberghost | WTF? Arthas ninjed the sword and logged! /gquit |
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| 15:12.59 | Fisker- | g0urra why so boilerplateous? |
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| 15:13.27 | pcj | fisker |
| 15:13.31 | pcj | you want privite chat? |
| 15:13.50 | Fisker- | I want you |
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| 15:21.20 | X3 | Dang, that is way cool |
| 15:21.26 | X3 | I love WoW lore |
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| 15:23.15 | Baldoom | Hello? |
| 15:23.19 | Ose | hai |
| 15:23.23 | Baldoom | :) |
| 15:23.55 | Baldoom | so nobody chatting up about the realms being down? or is that topic old? |
| 15:24.04 | opant2 | old. |
| 15:24.09 | Baldoom | ahhh |
| 15:24.11 | Ose | US |
| 15:24.27 | Baldoom | well i haven't been able to get any news |
| 15:25.34 | Baldoom | guess i'll play a few dota this morn before heading to work |
| 15:25.50 | Baldoom | bb |
| 15:26.22 | opant2 | news = breaking news when you load up the wow client |
| 15:26.24 | opant2 | dammit |
| 15:26.27 | opant2 | left already |
| 15:26.55 | Adys | what a fail |
| 15:26.56 | Adys | pcj |
| 15:26.57 | Adys | Hmm.. Didnt Muradin Die in wc3 lol. LORE REWRITE! |
| 15:27.01 | Adys | in the comments |
| 15:27.04 | pcj | yes |
| 15:27.06 | pcj | ooooold |
| 15:27.23 | Adys | hold on |
| 15:27.32 | Adys | what the fuck is up with everyone saying OMG MURADIN IS NOT DEAD |
| 15:27.38 | Adys | and not noticing ARTHAS is next to him |
| 15:28.00 | Adys | to be precise, some young blonde hot dude called Prince Arthas |
| 15:30.00 | pcj | well |
| 15:30.10 | pcj | i think they mean arthas didn't kill him when he took frostmourne |
| 15:30.13 | pcj | as depicted in wc3 |
| 15:30.16 | Adys | er |
| 15:30.19 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/wlki |
| 15:30.24 | Adys | Although the blade was cursed, Arthas swore that he would pay any cost for victory. The ice encasing Frostmourne shattered, and one shard of ice flew out, felling Muradin. |
| 15:30.51 | pcj | muradin was felled |
| 15:30.56 | Adys | like your mom |
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| 15:35.00 | Fisker- | y hai |
| 15:35.20 | weziman | time to break out princess bride quotes |
| 15:35.46 | weziman | Miracle Max: He probably owes you money huh? I'll ask him. |
| 15:35.46 | weziman | Inigo Montoya: He's dead. He can't talk. |
| 15:35.46 | weziman | Miracle Max: Whoo-hoo-hoo, look who knows so much. It just so happens that your friend here is only MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do. |
| 15:35.46 | weziman | Inigo Montoya: What's that? |
| 15:35.47 | weziman | Miracle Max: Go through his clothes and look for loose change. |
| 15:37.18 | TheFerret22 | yay, no ETA on the downtime due to database problems |
| 15:38.04 | Ose | http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/370/370083/3700831/jpg/active/503x.jpg keke |
| 15:38.17 | Fisker- | See you on the other side of the next expansion thedarkhaze |
| 15:38.18 | Fisker- | bah |
| 15:38.20 | Fisker- | TheFerret22 |
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| 15:41.17 | pcj | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/12640063922-ingame-mails.html |
| 15:41.25 | pcj | "Our decision was to enable players to continue playing World of Warcraft before the opening of Wrath of the Lich King." |
| 15:41.30 | pcj | (for 3 hours) |
| 15:45.28 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 15:45.36 | centrix | lol |
| 15:45.58 | centrix | it's alright i'm ready 2 rock it 2night already got Wrath installed |
| 15:46.29 | centrix | assuming the servers are up 2night |
| 15:47.25 | opant2 | bwaahaha |
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| 15:51.34 | syberghost | http://www.mediatakeout.com/2008/28159-what_the_boxer_kisses_another_boxer_during_match__has_points_taken_away_.html |
| 15:55.05 | X3 | I want to get the collectors edition |
| 15:55.36 | weziman | anyone gonna go to the austin blizz midnight thing at gamestop on 10000 research blvd? |
| 15:56.29 | pcj | no |
| 15:56.40 | X3 | He'll murder you |
| 15:58.00 | X3 | Called my Walmart and asked if there were any collectors editions he said he didnt see any |
| 15:58.49 | syberghost | weziman: no |
| 15:59.28 | Fisker- | hah |
| 15:59.37 | Fisker- | seems like you were right Adys |
| 15:59.47 | Adys | ? |
| 16:00.17 | Adys | about what Fisker- ? |
| 16:00.29 | Adys | apart from everything |
| 16:00.40 | pcj | apart from everything there is nothing |
| 16:00.43 | pcj | so you were right about nothing |
| 16:00.44 | pcj | QED |
| 16:00.48 | Adys | and your mom |
| 16:01.09 | Adys | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/19/12354807861-4-classes-share-the-same-armor-token.html |
| 16:01.22 | Adys | wonder in which expansion theyll decide to use 1 single token |
| 16:02.01 | g0urra | I'm going to queue for 3 hours for CE Fisker- >:3 |
| 16:02.03 | Fisker- | The upgrade site being used to upgrade <insert wow game> -> CE |
| 16:02.10 | Fisker- | Or atleast i guess |
| 16:02.23 | Fisker- | Anyways the EU community guy for the website section said it is possible now |
| 16:02.52 | g0urra | Fisker- I'm Dying |
| 16:03.12 | g0urra | I'm Dying Fisker- |
| 16:03.32 | syberghost | beats g0urra to death with a squirtle |
| 16:03.32 | Fisker- | no |
| 16:03.33 | Fisker- | g0urra |
| 16:03.37 | Fisker- | go boilerplate yourself |
| 16:04.02 | g0urra | boilerplates Fisker- |
| 16:04.13 | syberghost | whap SQUIRTLE whap SQUIRTLE whap SQUIR.... |
| 16:04.25 | Fisker- | oh my |
| 16:04.48 | X3 | loves squirtle |
| 16:04.50 | Fisker- | Guess i'll get some sleep for some hours |
| 16:05.02 | Fisker- | Only slept for 4 hours today :( |
| 16:05.30 | sacarasc | then you'll be prepared to play from midnight till... tuesday |
| 16:05.49 | g0urra | I'm not going to sleep |
| 16:05.51 | g0urra | and I have work |
| 16:05.52 | g0urra | Q_Q |
| 16:06.57 | Adys | why play until tuesday |
| 16:07.08 | Adys | takes about 35-40 hours to get to 80 |
| 16:07.22 | sacarasc | alts |
| 16:07.30 | Adys | alts suck cocks |
| 16:07.49 | g0urra | your mom suck cocks |
| 16:08.12 | Adys | your mom sucks alts cocks |
| 16:08.25 | g0urra | 1/10 |
| 16:08.37 | centrix | 35-40hrs play time 2 get 2 lvl 80? |
| 16:09.41 | sacarasc | *to |
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| 16:15.07 | X3 | Is that accurate do you think 35-40 hours? |
| 16:15.36 | Grifin | Total downtime? |
| 16:15.56 | Tuqui-tuqui | he meant play time to reach lvl 80 |
| 16:16.01 | X3 | Haha |
| 16:16.06 | X3 | Both are good questions |
| 16:16.13 | Tuqui-tuqui | though it feels like its been 40 hours of downtime |
| 16:16.33 | Grifin | I don't see it coming up anytime soon. I missed when the servers were supposedly up between 3AM and 7AM eastern |
| 16:16.54 | X3 | It was supposed to be up an hour and 17 minutes ago |
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| 16:17.05 | syberghost | Grifin: Moon Guard was definitely up, I logged on. |
| 16:17.47 | centrix | yeah Malorne was up and everyone was bum rushing pvp vendors to get their free pvp gear that will be taken back |
| 16:17.56 | Grifin | lol |
| 16:18.41 | Grifin | The interesting thing is that there isn't really a patch release for this maintenance, so the bug issues have to be related to WotLK tomorrow. |
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| 16:19.05 | selckin | pritty stupid to roll out changes day before |
| 16:19.09 | centrix | it was crazy in there, all brutal gear requirements were removed so u had all sorts of peeps getting s4 weapons and shoulders |
| 16:19.12 | selckin | thats why they release 3.0 :\ |
| 16:19.43 | centrix | and for some reason the s4 req. were put on the merc. gear |
| 16:19.45 | centrix | lol |
| 16:19.59 | Grifin | too bad I missed that, although it will all be taken away anyways... :( |
| 16:20.18 | selckin | their database is the most valuable asset and they corrupted it |
| 16:20.20 | selckin | good game |
| 16:20.21 | Adys | pcj ping |
| 16:20.24 | centrix | yeah they're just gonna refund ur arena points and take the gear back |
| 16:20.50 | centrix | yeah wasn't really a patch issue someone nuked the DB from 3.0.3 on |
| 16:21.11 | Grifin | That will be fun to restore. Wonder how recent their backup was? |
| 16:21.14 | centrix | so anything since the patch in the mail system is lost supposedly |
| 16:21.29 | g0urra | centrix, they'll send it back |
| 16:21.51 | pcj | what adys |
| 16:21.56 | pcj | what is it |
| 16:21.58 | Adys | http://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git/?a=rss |
| 16:22.05 | pcj | heheh git |
| 16:22.08 | Adys | i want the 5 latest entries of this rss on the wiki |
| 16:22.24 | Adys | does <rss> take any param? |
| 16:22.24 | pcj | cool |
| 16:23.17 | pcj | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RSS |
| 16:23.25 | Adys | thanks mom |
| 16:28.12 | centrix | heh wonder what time system blizz uses their hours are all messed up lol "more info within the hour" |
| 16:29.27 | pcj | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1085059/Pictured-The-robot-pull-faces-just-like-human-being.html |
| 16:29.56 | Adys | pcj: whats the css class for a box with [hide]/[show] ? |
| 16:30.39 | pcj | autocollapse |
| 16:30.47 | pcj | err |
| 16:30.48 | pcj | lets see |
| 16:31.09 | Adys | this caching bullshit is taking the piss |
| 16:31.18 | pcj | collapsible |
| 16:32.37 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Wine_(software) |
| 16:32.47 | Adys | the fucking thing doesnt even come up in preview |
| 16:32.57 | Adys | and two of the other links mysteriously disappeared |
| 16:33.00 | g0urra | fail Adys |
| 16:33.04 | Adys | no g0urra |
| 16:33.07 | Adys | i cant fucking preview it |
| 16:33.09 | g0urra | you can't have Label3 and Data3 |
| 16:33.17 | Adys | yes i can |
| 16:33.20 | g0urra | it's Label3 and Data4 |
| 16:33.21 | g0urra | idiot |
| 16:33.28 | pcj | i'm pretty sure it has to be a table not a div as well |
| 16:33.29 | Adys | you're the idiot |
| 16:33.30 | Adys | it works fine now |
| 16:33.37 | g0urra | yeah because I fucking edited it |
| 16:33.51 | Adys | |label1 = Stable release |
| 16:33.51 | Adys | |data1 = 1.0.1 (17 October 2008) |
| 16:33.54 | Adys | |label2 = Unstable release |
| 16:33.54 | Adys | |data2 = 1.1.8 (7 November 2008) |
| 16:33.57 | Adys | so why does this work |
| 16:34.01 | Adys | jackass |
| 16:34.02 | pcj | header |
| 16:34.05 | g0urra | rofl |
| 16:34.06 | pcj | you can't have header |
| 16:34.07 | pcj | stop it |
| 16:34.09 | syberghost | You're a header, header! |
| 16:34.10 | pcj | faaaaail |
| 16:34.14 | g0urra | alright, header |
| 16:34.20 | pcj | MORON |
| 16:34.21 | pcj | GET OUT |
| 16:34.26 | Adys | |header1 = Releases |
| 16:34.26 | Adys | |label1 = Stable release |
| 16:34.26 | Adys | |data1 = 1.0.1 (17 October 2008) |
| 16:34.26 | g0urra | also, Label1 doesn't show Adys |
| 16:34.28 | Adys | RETARDS |
| 16:34.29 | g0urra | because you have header1 |
| 16:34.33 | Adys | I KNOW IT DOESNT FUCKING SHOW |
| 16:34.34 | pcj | FUCK YOU |
| 16:34.43 | Adys | STOP EDITING THIS |
| 16:34.45 | Adys | ASSHOLES |
| 16:34.55 | g0urra | RRRRRRAAAAGGGGGGEEEEEEEE |
| 16:35.00 | Adys | LIKE YOUR MOM |
| 16:35.01 | pcj | fixed |
| 16:35.17 | Adys | whatever i still cant see my rss logs |
| 16:35.25 | g0urra | zomg pcj is a vandal |
| 16:35.27 | g0urra | block block |
| 16:38.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Scary peeple |
| 16:38.28 | Adys | LIKE YOUR MOM LIKE YOUR MOM LIKE YOUR MOM LIKE YOUR MOM |
| 16:39.01 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Wine_(software) |
| 16:39.03 | Adys | there |
| 16:39.03 | Adys | i guess |
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| 16:41.57 | Resonant | Anymore update on the maintenace? |
| 16:42.06 | pcj | yes |
| 16:42.09 | pcj | realms are still down |
| 16:42.09 | Resonant | The Realm Status Forums aren't loading for me. :| |
| 16:42.12 | Resonant | Haha. |
| 16:44.52 | Ose | [17:41]<pcj>US realms are still down |
| 16:44.54 | Ose | fixed |
| 16:45.25 | g0urra | someone says the servers are up |
| 16:45.36 | opant2 | some of them |
| 16:45.51 | Adys | lol |
| 16:45.57 | Adys | you US guys still got your realms down |
| 16:46.06 | opant2 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ |
| 16:46.06 | Adys | while EU ones are ready for wotlk? |
| 16:46.46 | g0urra | I bet they'll take down EU servers too |
| 16:46.49 | g0urra | for shits n giggles |
| 16:50.17 | Resonant | Onyxia is up. |
| 16:50.22 | Resonant | Dark Iron is as well |
| 16:50.26 | Adys | go take her down then! |
| 16:50.27 | Adys | oh |
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| 16:50.31 | Resonant | Hah. |
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| 16:56.51 | X3 | Nice Laughing Skull is up |
| 17:06.40 | kd3 | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
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| 17:08.02 | kd3 | Kirkburn|afk, ya. I'm of the opinion that we should promote portal:wotlk for a little while |
| 17:08.08 | liamispro | Anyone have any idea if i'll have to update WoW before I can install and play Wotlk? I just freshly installed WoW -> Tbc... |
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| 17:08.47 | kd3 | as long as you hold on to the 3.0.1->3.0.2 and 3.0.2->3.0.3 patches, the wotlk install'll be painless |
| 17:08.49 | winkiller | liamispro: that should be ~2.3 or 2.4. if you install wotlk it wqill be 3.0 or 3.0.1 |
| 17:08.49 | Kirkburn|afk | kd3, seems fair |
| 17:08.58 | winkiller | ^see kd3 |
| 17:09.35 | liamispro | Ah right, so I won't have to update my client now upto 3.0 in order to install? |
| 17:09.42 | liamispro | it should be on the disc |
| 17:09.59 | kd3 | the wrath dvd has 3.0 on it. as long as you've got BC already installed, use it |
| 17:10.12 | liamispro | Alright ty =) |
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| 17:10.24 | liamispro | So who is making the trip out to the stores at 12, and who already has it |
| 17:10.35 | winkiller | this question may sound stupid.. but what happens if you have several installs of wow. and 2 accounts, one TBC, one wotlk |
| 17:10.49 | winkiller | will it crash if you use the wrong? will it deny you login? |
| 17:10.54 | opant2 | no |
| 17:10.58 | winkiller | bet the wotlk client can handle tbc accs |
| 17:11.00 | liamispro | you just wont be able to go into northrend |
| 17:11.00 | winkiller | but otherwise? |
| 17:11.06 | kd3 | use the wotlk client. that way both accounts can use it |
| 17:11.06 | syberghost | You're right, winkiller, that is stupid. |
| 17:11.12 | syberghost | :D |
| 17:11.23 | kd3 | if you try to log in to the wotlk-enabled account with the bc client it'll fail horribly |
| 17:11.34 | winkiller | anyone *tried*? |
| 17:11.41 | kd3 | it's the same way it was for bc |
| 17:11.43 | winkiller | I wanna know how horribly :< |
| 17:11.49 | winkiller | testing Blizzard's QA |
| 17:11.58 | kd3 | you'll just get an error message "this account requires wrath. please install it" |
| 17:12.02 | winkiller | if only my chars wouldn't maybe get stuck :D |
| 17:12.04 | winkiller | as usual |
| 17:12.10 | winkiller | hehe |
| 17:12.26 | syberghost | You'll get an error message saying "OMGWTFBBQ" and then it'll erase all files that end in .dll anywhere on your system. |
| 17:12.27 | winkiller | looks forward to uprading his 5 wow directories |
| 17:12.51 | winkiller | spread over 3 machines |
| 17:13.10 | winkiller | think I'll just copy it over and go afk... |
| 17:13.17 | opant2 | copy/paste? |
| 17:13.19 | opant2 | its not hard :x |
| 17:13.28 | winkiller | it takes time |
| 17:13.32 | winkiller | no gbit lan :D |
| 17:14.07 | winkiller | glad I could hand my "kill illidan" quest yesterday with a nicked raid ID |
| 17:14.16 | winkiller | bet there won't be much BT in the next weeks |
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| 17:15.02 | winkiller | > Opt in for a chance to participate in the Wrath of the Lich King Beta! |
| 17:15.12 | winkiller | seems the web team was a bit busier with other thinghs lately |
| 17:15.17 | sacarasc | yeah, dunno why that's still there |
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| 17:17.50 | Valtier | Anyone know how #ifeq works and where to view the source for it? |
| 17:19.18 | kd3 | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions#.23ifeq: |
| 17:19.46 | Valtier | Thanks |
| 17:20.00 | winkiller | I can only tell you that Assembler is easier to write than wowwiki stuff |
| 17:20.03 | Baggins | wishes I could play it, but I'm so poor right now... :p Paying for school... |
| 17:20.07 | winkiller | *mediawiki |
| 17:20.37 | Baggins | perhaps I could convince the family to get me a few months as a christmas/bday present :p |
| 17:23.15 | sacarasc | Baggins: you could just kidnap people and harvest their organs for the money for wow |
| 17:23.28 | Baggins | that's just sick |
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| 17:23.57 | Baggins | and I won't become a grave robber either, I plan to be an upstanding Archaelogist, not Indiana jones ;) |
| 17:24.40 | sacarasc | but indy was hot |
| 17:25.00 | Baggins | ok to quote him in the recent comic, he's not a grave rober, but a temple robber, ;) |
| 17:26.12 | Baggins | Oh, ya I dig Indiana Jones style of taste. I just couldn't resort to his methods ;) |
| 17:26.37 | Baggins | style of taste I mean his clothing. |
| 17:26.50 | Baggins | Fedoras kick ass |
| 17:28.06 | Baggins | I mean if you walk into a building with a Fedora in a movie, it usually means you brought in a tommy gun to blow people away, or perhaps going to do some mean detective skills, or in the case of indy, beat up some nazis/commies. |
| 17:29.02 | g0urra | RRRRAGE |
| 17:29.05 | winkiller | >I want to work for blizzard but my spelling and punctuation is terrible. |
| 17:29.06 | winkiller | are terrible.* |
| 17:29.06 | winkiller | Don't forget grammar. :p |
| 17:29.24 | g0urra | uh, it's "is terrible" |
| 17:29.45 | mxs | Somehow, I don't think the hiring standards for Blizzard are "can spell" and "forms sentences" |
| 17:30.43 | Baggins | you don't need those requirements to be tech support really. |
| 17:31.02 | Baggins | in any company :p |
| 17:31.57 | Baggins | so ya in my other MMO, LOTRO, I just got my hobbit to level 35. Unfortunetly I'm about 3 gold short of having my level 35 pony :p |
| 17:32.27 | Baggins | Another week until I can enter Moria, yay. Except I don't think I'll be 50 by then :p |
| 17:32.57 | Baggins | But all that I've seen Moria looks kick ass. Six huge zones underground, quite original. |
| 17:34.04 | Baggins | BTW, I snuck into Bay of Forochel the other day, was impressed by the Auroras in the sky... I'm curious considering how north Nothrend is, does it have Auroraras in the sky at least in some of the areas? |
| 17:35.26 | Baggins | Hmm wonders why they took away one of the Blood elf racial traits... Lore reason? |
| 17:35.58 | kd3 | ya. borean tundra's got auroras. that's the main part of its skybox |
| 17:36.05 | Baggins | sweet |
| 17:36.09 | kd3 | some of the other zones have it too but there's typically other stuff going on in the sky |
| 17:36.22 | Baggins | I want the second moon back :( |
| 17:40.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Btw, I've love some votes on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Featured_article/Articles ... looking to do some new featured articles today |
| 17:40.24 | Kirkburn|afk | (and suggestions for featured wrath content would be especially good) |
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| 18:23.41 | winkiller | I'm very sad to say but I never clicked on any FA besides Garona |
| 18:23.53 | winkiller | so I'll refrain from commenting |
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| 19:15.49 | Matsy | Hey there. |
| 19:17.59 | kd3 | hm |
| 19:18.14 | kd3 | wonders how to change portal:main to safely point to portal:wotlk |
| 19:20.01 | Matsy | Can't you just do |
| 19:20.13 | Matsy | #REDIRECT [[Portal:WOTLK]] |
| 19:20.14 | Dotted | Matsy meant: www.wowwiki.com/Portal:WOTLK |
| 19:20.23 | kd3 | no |
| 19:20.33 | kd3 | not with the ajaxy way we've got the tabs set up |
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| 19:20.37 | Matsy | Oh, darn. |
| 19:20.57 | Matsy | Hardcodin' time? |
| 19:24.08 | Matsy | Oh, right |
| 19:24.13 | Matsy | I came here with a quesiton |
| 19:24.17 | Matsy | *question. |
| 19:24.41 | Matsy | The Global function post. It is automatically generated. Am I allowed to make modifications / additions to it? |
| 19:24.46 | pcj | #wowuidev |
| 19:24.57 | Matsy | It has almost 0 to do with UI? |
| 19:25.07 | Matsy | But, I'll ask there. |
| 19:25.08 | pcj | Global function post? |
| 19:25.09 | pcj | oh |
| 19:25.11 | Matsy | Yeah. |
| 19:25.12 | pcj | you mean a wiki page |
| 19:25.16 | Matsy | Indeed. |
| 19:25.17 | pcj | what page |
| 19:25.24 | Matsy | http://www.wowwiki.com/Global_functions |
| 19:25.32 | Matsy | These are the internal WoW functions. |
| 19:25.39 | Matsy | I believe these aren't used for LUA. |
| 19:26.00 | Matsy | At least, only some of them are. |
| 19:26.04 | pcj | Yeah you can update it |
| 19:26.08 | Matsy | Okay. |
| 19:29.57 | Matsy | So many things to edit, lol |
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| 19:34.53 | Matsy | Oh wow |
| 19:35.13 | pcj | thats what she said |
| 19:35.22 | Matsy | Yeah :< |
| 19:35.27 | Matsy | Well |
| 19:35.31 | Matsy | My account is logged in ^_^ |
| 19:35.39 | Matsy | And I'm not ;p |
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| 19:42.02 | pcj | noooo |
| 19:42.13 | pcj | who is wow-bot |
| 19:42.40 | pcj | wow-bot, help |
| 19:43.05 | pcj | !help api |
| 19:44.11 | pcj | !api GetAchievementInfo |
| 19:44.21 | pcj | whyyy |
| 19:45.14 | pcj | !icof Direbrew Hops;Essence of the Martyr |
| 19:45.24 | crucially_ | is performance okay? |
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| 19:45.34 | pcj | no |
| 19:46.15 | kyle__ | anyone here use linux to play wow on a separate xserver? |
| 19:46.17 | crucially_ | whats wrong? |
| 19:46.40 | pcj | too many ads |
| 19:46.48 | syberghost | What do you mean, separate xserver? |
| 19:47.05 | kyle__ | um... i prolly got the wrong word lol |
| 19:47.30 | kyle__ | i am trying to use a script to launch wow on a separate display as it's own (kernal????) or something |
| 19:47.31 | crucially_ | pcj: not my area |
| 19:47.34 | crucially_ | :/ |
| 19:47.35 | crucially_ | er |
| 19:47.36 | crucially_ | :( |
| 19:47.49 | kyle__ | i got it to 'work' at a whopping 4FPHour |
| 19:47.59 | pcj | lol |
| 19:48.18 | pcj | that's .01/9 fps |
| 19:48.25 | kyle__ | lol |
| 19:48.29 | syberghost | You mean on a separate monitor from your desktop? Are they both the same video card? |
| 19:48.32 | kyle__ | pcj, indeed |
| 19:48.40 | kyle__ | syberghost, no |
| 19:49.29 | syberghost | Can you elaborate? |
| 19:50.00 | kyle__ | what i mean, is: i run a script starting with sudo etc/x11/gdm stop (next line) cd (wow dir) (next line) x:3 `wine` wow.exe -opengl |
| 19:50.57 | kyle__ | and it turns off my linux main system, and turn on a barebones one, on x3 which will run only wow. suposed to double your FPS but it (don't laugh) uarters it |
| 19:51.02 | kyle__ | quarters |
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| 19:51.16 | syberghost | I don't think two different xservers can be 3D-accelerated on the same card at the same time. |
| 19:51.41 | kyle__ | interesting..... possible for you to point me in a direction to correct that? |
| 19:51.45 | syberghost | If you mean that display is REMOTE, hell no, you won't ever see that fast. |
| 19:52.05 | kyle__ | remote as in, a dif computer/monitor? |
| 19:52.18 | syberghost | yes; I still don't have enough info to see what you're doing. |
| 19:52.38 | kyle__ | i'll show you the script hold on |
| 19:52.55 | syberghost | Two xservers can't be using the same video card 3D accelerated at the same time. To "correct" that you'd need to build yourself a new video board for a market of exactly one person. |
| 19:54.15 | kyle__ | ok is there a way to turn 3d acceleration or the not wow xserver off? |
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| 19:54.59 | syberghost | I guess you could do major surgery on the xorg.conf to make it not load any of that stuff on one. |
| 19:55.28 | syberghost | Maybe; this is not something I've ever tried. |
| 19:55.50 | syberghost | Usually my efforts involve getting it to work. :) |
| 19:56.02 | kyle__ | lol |
| 19:56.10 | kyle__ | i just want 15fps |
| 19:56.11 | syberghost | Why is it you're trying to do this? What problem are you trying to solve, perhaps there's another solution that's better-supported. |
| 19:56.14 | kyle__ | that would make me so happy |
| 19:56.54 | kyle__ | windows vista gave me 4-6fps, playing wow on linux with config.wtf tweaked and a regedit tweak gives me 9fps |
| 19:57.18 | kyle__ | and i want 15... thats all i'm not asking for 150 like i see on forums about how big my....... nm |
| 19:57.50 | syberghost | Ok, having two xservers competing for the same video board won't speed that up, period, even if it worked properly. |
| 19:58.08 | kyle__ | if you want to see the script it's at http://paste.ubuntu.com/71064/ |
| 19:58.10 | syberghost | What is your CPU speed, amount of RAM, and video board make/model? |
| 19:59.02 | kyle__ | inspiron 1525 laptop with intel duo core 2.0ghtz 2gb ram intel x3100 graphix |
| 19:59.14 | syberghost | ack |
| 19:59.22 | syberghost | intel x3100 is your problem. |
| 19:59.28 | kyle__ | ...... |
| 20:00.02 | kyle__ | aren't laptops as is? or are you goign to give me good news and sayi can upgrade it.....? |
| 20:00.54 | syberghost | No, I'm going to research whether anybody's gotten any better speed than that out of that piece of crap video for a minute. |
| 20:01.22 | kyle__ | i wish i was a super genius about computers..... so i could make both my not so great computers work together like 1 good computer lol |
| 20:01.43 | TheFerret22 | so you can still get free pvp items now |
| 20:01.53 | syberghost | That's a video board basically not made for 3D gaming. |
| 20:02.04 | kyle__ | syberghost, thats not good |
| 20:02.18 | kyle__ | TheFerret22, what are yout alking about? |
| 20:02.59 | TheFerret22 | you know how priests and locks could get s2 pvp for free and they took the servers down to fix it, while you still get said items for free |
| 20:03.08 | syberghost | Best thing I can suggest is make sure you don't have compiz on. |
| 20:03.13 | syberghost | What distro/version? |
| 20:03.27 | kyle__ | syberghost, compiz? |
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| 20:03.36 | syberghost | What distro and version of Linux are you running? |
| 20:03.43 | kyle__ | 8.10 |
| 20:03.59 | syberghost | I'm guessing the word you're refusing to give me is therefore "Ubuntu". |
| 20:04.09 | kyle__ | syberghost, you woulnd't happen to be alliance on cho'gall would you? |
| 20:04.17 | kyle__ | oh sorry yes ubuntu |
| 20:04.28 | syberghost | There are open bugs for the X3100 drivers in Ubuntu 8.10 right now, it's just about the worst case scenario for that card, which is crap anyway. |
| 20:04.40 | syberghost | nope, never been on that realm |
| 20:04.43 | kyle__ | ..... my luck |
| 20:04.45 | syberghost | I'm mostly Horde on Moon Guard. |
| 20:04.55 | mxs | leave it to my guildmates to cheer me up. " [Guild] [70:Killek]: speaking of come honor face... your mom got fired from the sperm bank today". "Drinking on the job." |
| 20:04.56 | kyle__ | if you were on cho'gall i'd give you gold lol |
| 20:04.59 | syberghost | Turn desktop effects to "none". |
| 20:05.21 | syberghost | hang on I'll give you the exact place in the menus |
| 20:05.28 | kyle__ | oh it's ok |
| 20:05.31 | kyle__ | i already did that |
| 20:05.48 | syberghost | Then you've got about all you're going to get right now. |
| 20:05.56 | kyle__ | to stop the windows in uuntu from flashing infront of wow |
| 20:06.02 | kyle__ | :( |
| 20:06.04 | syberghost | That just isn't a gaming video board. |
| 20:06.16 | kyle__ | false advertising.... i'm sueing |
| 20:06.20 | pcj | damn, i won another 40" HDTV |
| 20:06.28 | syberghost | I wish more people would. |
| 20:06.32 | kyle__ | pcj, lol more spam? |
| 20:06.37 | pcj | no |
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| 20:06.46 | pcj | it's a sony 40" TV |
| 20:06.55 | pcj | i've already won one |
| 20:06.59 | pcj | and now i got another one |
| 20:07.09 | syberghost | pcj: I'll take it if you don't want it. |
| 20:07.13 | pcj | no i want it |
| 20:07.30 | pcj | this way i can put my UI on one screen and my character on the other |
| 20:07.34 | syberghost | Well that's frankly just a little selfish of you. |
| 20:08.05 | pcj | yes, yes it is |
| 20:08.06 | X3 | Indeed. |
| 20:08.12 | syberghost | I mean, you won't just give a $1,500 TV to some random jackass on the internet who is rude to you on a daily basis? |
| 20:08.12 | X3 | I say we /roll for the loot |
| 20:08.14 | X3 | its only fair |
| 20:08.17 | syberghost | What is the world coming to? |
| 20:08.37 | syberghost | rolls Need |
| 20:08.47 | X3 | rolls need |
| 20:08.47 | kyle__ | ok so my buddy says i need to find out if i have a pcixpress slot (i think so but i'm going to double check) and then find a card to fit it |
| 20:08.49 | Kirkburn|afk | The official forums are now read only, this may mean a influx of visitors/editors |
| 20:09.03 | kyle__ | ? |
| 20:09.07 | syberghost | Or an influx of QQing about the servers being down. |
| 20:09.19 | Kirkburn|afk | syberghost, ha |
| 20:09.39 | Kirkburn|afk | (and hope not) |
| 20:10.11 | kyle__ | who's getting it at midnight? |
| 20:10.22 | kd3 | pokes portal:main |
| 20:11.43 | syberghost | me |
| 20:12.08 | pcj | ur moms getting it at midnight |
| 20:12.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | :| |
| 20:12.48 | weziman | Kirkburn|afk, it's been read only for a while |
| 20:15.07 | kyle__ | syberghost, do you know how to find out what mobo you got in ububtu 8.10? |
| 20:15.39 | mxs | so ... does anybody know why we get warbear after warbear int he mail ? |
| 20:15.42 | mxs | I must have deleted 30 or so now |
| 20:16.13 | Adys | .. i wouldnt mind one |
| 20:16.39 | mxs | go kill hordies then :P |
| 20:17.11 | kd3 | hokay. portal:wotlk is the new main page now |
| 20:17.27 | Adys | oh kd3 |
| 20:17.49 | kd3 | hm? |
| 20:17.53 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine |
| 20:17.57 | Adys | revamped the page \o/ |
| 20:18.10 | kd3 | ooh |
| 20:19.18 | Adys | hmm reboot |
| 20:19.19 | Adys | brb |
| 20:22.03 | Fisker- | y so new launcher patch Matsy ? |
| 20:22.20 | syberghost | kyle__: sysinfo may be able to tell you enough to see what motherboard it is |
| 20:22.21 | Fisker- | mxs of course :E |
| 20:22.33 | syberghost | Usually the "host bridge" stuff will tell you a lot. |
| 20:23.12 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-v Fisker-] by pcj |
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| 20:23.34 | Fisker- | y so srs pcj ? |
| 20:23.57 | syberghost | And you should see that page Adys linked, especially the "Ubuntu" link on it, for tips on getting the most out of WoW in Wine. |
| 20:24.07 | syberghost | But don't expect much with that video board. |
| 20:25.02 | syberghost | Although you should probably ignore the "aoss" stuff and use "padsp" instead these days. |
| 20:25.20 | Adys | kyle__: $ hardinfo |
| 20:25.23 | kd3 | though pa is a pain and a half on its own |
| 20:25.41 | syberghost | kd3: agreed, but turning it off in Ubuntu is also hard if you're new like him. |
| 20:25.44 | KyleH` | Too many Kyles in this room ... my computer keeps beeping :P |
| 20:25.48 | Matsy | !api AutoStoreGuildBankItem |
| 20:25.56 | Matsy | Oh yes\ |
| 20:25.58 | syberghost | Hell, I support Linux and UNIX for a Fortune 500 corp, and it's a pain in the ass to disable for me. |
| 20:26.01 | syberghost | I just live with it. |
| 20:26.10 | Adys | pa wouldnt be a pain without a couple of bugs and a full support |
| 20:26.15 | kd3 | `yum -y remove pulseaudio` |
| 20:26.17 | kd3 | poof. gone |
| 20:26.39 | Adys | What the fuck |
| 20:26.41 | syberghost | kd3: Ubuntu doesn't have yum. |
| 20:26.44 | Adys | Lenny is running gnome 2.20 |
| 20:26.47 | Adys | just noticed |
| 20:26.57 | kd3 | apt-get remove pulseaudio then |
| 20:27.01 | syberghost | And if you just remove the package, shit doesn't work, and the next time you install updates it comes back. |
| 20:27.02 | kd3 | runs fedora |
| 20:27.15 | syberghost | Ubuntu makes it needlessly difficult to remove PA. |
| 20:27.19 | kd3 | works aok here. just had to restart xmms2 |
| 20:27.29 | Adys | syberghost: apt-get remove pulse* ubuntu-desktop |
| 20:28.48 | syberghost | Adys: I guarantee you, if kyle__ types that (after a sudo, of course) he'll be back here asking sound questions, and 9.04 upgrade questions. |
| 20:29.22 | Adys | i dont remember PA being such a pain to remove back in 8.04 |
| 20:29.40 | Adys | and its easy to upgrade even without ubuntu-desktop |
| 20:29.44 | kd3 | and that's the thing. it /shouldn't/ be a pain to remove |
| 20:30.01 | syberghost | It shouldn't be default at all, especially in 8.04. |
| 20:30.10 | Adys | let them be on the edge |
| 20:30.11 | syberghost | It's not ready for that yet. |
| 20:30.13 | Adys | they like it :P |
| 20:30.19 | syberghost | Especially not in a five-year support release. |
| 20:30.25 | kyle__ | whoa whoa whats that mean syberghost ? |
| 20:30.49 | kyle__ | i'm trying ti figure out if my mobo has a pcixpress slot lol |
| 20:30.57 | syberghost | kyle__: it means I, and most of the Wine audio coders (which I'm not), think PulseAudio is too experimental still. |
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| 20:31.25 | Matsy | Lets see how fast it is |
| 20:31.26 | Adys | wine doesnt think PA is too experimental |
| 20:31.26 | Matsy | !api AutoStoreGuildBankItem |
| 20:31.27 | kyle__ | ...... all i know is i heard victory today |
| 20:31.32 | Matsy | That works ^_^ |
| 20:31.33 | syberghost | It may someday be the best thing since sliced bread, but right now it's sliced fail. |
| 20:31.38 | kyle__ | i was having sound probs and i fixed them all by myself lol |
| 20:31.39 | kd3 | <3 peer |
| 20:31.44 | kyle__ | it was the best sound lol |
| 20:31.45 | Fisker- | in mxs we hate |
| 20:31.50 | syberghost | Adys: that's not what the Wine audio devs I know tell me. |
| 20:31.57 | kd3 | wha? when'd that change? I thought wine was still trying to avoid writing a pa driver |
| 20:32.04 | Adys | the wine audio devs certainly dont want to write a PA driver |
| 20:32.13 | Adys | but that doesnt mean they think its too experimental |
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| 20:32.40 | syberghost | The fact they tell me "it's too experimental" when it's discussed in IRC is what causes me to think they feel that way about it. |
| 20:33.12 | Adys | the fact the ALSA driver took long enough to be "stablish" to risk deving a new driver is good enough :P |
| 20:33.33 | Adys | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10495 |
| 20:33.44 | kyle__ | does anyone know how to find out if your mobo has a pcixpress slot? i know what the mobo is.....0wp007 |
| 20:33.47 | kyle__ | lol |
| 20:33.57 | Adys | what brand? |
| 20:34.00 | kyle__ | i was hopeing i'd be able to go to newegg or soemthing and it'd list it lol |
| 20:34.02 | kyle__ | dell |
| 20:34.08 | pcj | dell |
| 20:34.14 | pcj | scrap it and get a good computer |
| 20:34.21 | Adys | what pcj said |
| 20:34.24 | Matsy | Yeah |
| 20:34.26 | Matsy | You have 1 port |
| 20:34.28 | Matsy | 1 PCIe port |
| 20:34.32 | kyle__ | riiiiiiight........ except that would involve more money |
| 20:34.49 | kyle__ | Matsy, your serious right? |
| 20:34.52 | Matsy | Yeah. |
| 20:34.54 | Matsy | Why wouldn't I be? |
| 20:35.03 | kyle__ | idk but thank you you make mehappy |
| 20:35.04 | Adys | because he obviously knows this mb sucks |
| 20:35.11 | Matsy | http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showthread.php/laptop_problems_plz_halp-13301/index.html?s=339a29fb1e05fdf1fdb5129d662b5701&t=13301 |
| 20:35.12 | Matsy | Check there |
| 20:35.21 | syberghost | Adys: if you wanna get an earful about it, go in #ubuntu-us-fl and ask Zack Brown what he thinks. He'll talk your ear off. :) |
| 20:35.41 | Adys | no thanks but thanks |
| 20:35.46 | syberghost | kyle__: it's a laptop, right? |
| 20:35.52 | pcj | inspirion 1525 yes |
| 20:36.37 | kyle__ | yes it's a laptop, but i don't see how that says it's got a pcix slot.... unless your refering to the x3100 graphicx card whichi think is not removable..... |
| 20:37.04 | Adys | what do you need anyway kyle__ ? |
| 20:37.13 | kyle__ | a better graphics card |
| 20:37.15 | syberghost | There are very few laptops that have user-replaceable graphics, and I'm not aware of ANY of those that ship with that Intel crap.l |
| 20:37.29 | Adys | for a laptop? |
| 20:37.32 | kyle__ | yes |
| 20:37.33 | pcj | kyle needs a better computer |
| 20:37.33 | syberghost | Adys: he's trying to run Wow in Wine on Ubuntu 8.10. With Intel X3100 graphics. |
| 20:37.40 | Adys | right |
| 20:37.42 | kyle__ | indeed |
| 20:37.44 | kyle__ | lol |
| 20:37.50 | syberghost | Pretty much the worst-case scenario for that card right now. |
| 20:37.51 | Adys | cord or knife? |
| 20:38.06 | kyle__ | Adys, i'd let someone else choose |
| 20:38.08 | Matsy | I might even be wrong. |
| 20:38.12 | Adys | i recommend cord |
| 20:38.20 | Adys | but either way, seriously |
| 20:38.25 | Adys | get a better computer |
| 20:38.26 | Adys | :p |
| 20:38.30 | Matsy | Yeah |
| 20:38.33 | Matsy | <3 |
| 20:38.48 | kyle__ | WTT dell for custom laptop |
| 20:38.49 | Adys | i dont like to be negative about it but ... yeah no chance in hell |
| 20:38.58 | syberghost | The few laptops that have replaceable stuff ship with good gaming graphics, the replaceable stuff is for getting even better later. |
| 20:39.09 | Matsy | Gaming on a laptop is a no-go anyway |
| 20:39.24 | syberghost | Matsy: not so. |
| 20:39.44 | Adys | for someone who says "but it costs money" when recommending to get a better laptop |
| 20:39.47 | Adys | yes, yes it is |
| 20:39.47 | syberghost | Works great on my HP-Compaq nw9440 with Nvidia Quadro graphics. |
| 20:39.50 | kyle__ | but who wouldn't want to yell 'WHY THE FUCK DID YOU AGGRO THAT!?!?!?!?!" in the middle of starbucks/panera bread? |
| 20:40.23 | syberghost | But that's a $4,000+ laptop. |
| 20:40.31 | Matsy | WoW works great on my Toshiba too |
| 20:40.34 | Matsy | It's all about the graphics card |
| 20:40.55 | kyle__ | i'm not giving up yet, i'll bring it to my friend to have him look at it |
| 20:41.07 | kyle__ | lol it's hard to convince me i'm SOL |
| 20:41.17 | Matsy | You could always buy external PCIe ^_^ |
| 20:41.24 | Matsy | Instead of buying a whole new laptop |
| 20:41.27 | kyle__ | ....... integueing |
| 20:41.34 | kyle__ | how does that work? usb or something? |
| 20:41.42 | Matsy | No. |
| 20:41.46 | Matsy | It has its own interface. |
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| 20:41.57 | Matsy | 2000Mbps data transfer. |
| 20:42.09 | kyle__ | so how does it connect to the laptop? |
| 20:42.28 | pcj | osmosis |
| 20:42.34 | kyle__ | ooooooooo |
| 20:42.34 | Adys | sex |
| 20:42.38 | kyle__ | that gotta cost a lot then |
| 20:42.43 | Matsy | Using Express Cards |
| 20:42.58 | kyle__ | isn't that what we have been talking about? |
| 20:43.05 | kyle__ | um a pcix port? |
| 20:43.07 | Matsy | Uh. |
| 20:43.07 | Matsy | No |
| 20:43.18 | kyle__ | lol shit i wish we were talking about desktops..... |
| 20:43.24 | kyle__ | i'd actually know something |
| 20:43.33 | pcj | AS OPPOSED TO NOTHING |
| 20:43.33 | Matsy | You know what PCMCIA is? |
| 20:43.58 | kyle__ | so how do i find out if my laptop has a port for this express card idea? |
| 20:44.05 | Matsy | Google it? |
| 20:44.12 | Matsy | If it has an Express Card slot |
| 20:44.15 | Matsy | It will work ^_^ |
| 20:44.33 | syberghost | http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com |
| 20:44.44 | kyle__ | is that a real page? |
| 20:44.46 | Matsy | Yes. |
| 20:44.48 | kyle__ | cuz i'd laugh |
| 20:44.53 | Adys | click then |
| 20:44.56 | Matsy | Start laughing ;p |
| 20:44.56 | syberghost | Then laugh |
| 20:44.58 | pcj | dell specs say |
| 20:44.59 | pcj | 3 Mini-Card |
| 20:45.03 | pcj | so wtf that means |
| 20:45.07 | kyle__ | lol |
| 20:45.18 | pcj | ah here we are 1 ExpressCard 54mm Slot |
| 20:45.40 | kyle__ | where the hell do you find these answers.... i must fail at google....... |
| 20:45.41 | Matsy | ^_^ |
| 20:45.48 | Matsy | It'd work then. |
| 20:45.53 | Adys | the more you use google the better it gets |
| 20:46.04 | syberghost | Yep. |
| 20:46.11 | Adys | see |
| 20:46.14 | Adys | I google for "wow" |
| 20:46.18 | Adys | first result |
| 20:46.20 | Matsy | Uh. |
| 20:46.24 | Matsy | What you have to know though. |
| 20:46.24 | Adys | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowwiki.com%2FWine_(software)&ei=m0AbSeW0LJrswwHknNjQDg&usg=AFQjCNFxmfYiwgr_hH_x4AzI0KK7ZwcEhg&sig2=cSPsHuAsSufXtHXsWL5aKg |
| 20:46.26 | syberghost | Search engine use is as much a skill today as it was when Altavista was the "best" search engine. |
| 20:46.28 | Matsy | Is that such a host machine. |
| 20:46.30 | Matsy | Costs 750$ |
| 20:46.35 | Matsy | For PCI Express. |
| 20:47.04 | syberghost | Or when we used "gopher" and there wasn't any of this web shit. |
| 20:48.25 | kyle__ | Matsy, what doyou mean 750 for pciexpress? |
| 20:49.08 | X3 | ã«ããã©ã¼ã¡ã³åã£ã¦ãã |
| 20:49.14 | pcj | http://www.magma.com/products/pciexpress/expressbox1/index.html |
| 20:50.03 | Matsy | Indeed |
| 20:50.08 | Matsy | That's what I was talking about. |
| 20:50.29 | kyle__ | interesting |
| 20:50.34 | kyle__ | that opens lots of options |
| 20:50.40 | pcj | yes |
| 20:50.45 | pcj | or you could just get a new computer |
| 20:51.33 | syberghost | And this time, consider doing the research into gaming options BEFORE the purchase. |
| 20:52.10 | kyle__ | i think this falls into the category of using purps on greens |
| 20:52.19 | syberghost | That thing won't handle any really good graphics cards. |
| 20:52.22 | Matsy | Yeah. |
| 20:52.28 | Matsy | Uh, syberghost |
| 20:52.29 | Matsy | It will. |
| 20:52.35 | syberghost | Magma ExpressBox1 is designed for "single-width" graphics cards that require no more than 55 watts of power. |
| 20:53.16 | kyle__ | so lets start an arguement.... nvidia or AIT |
| 20:53.17 | Matsy | That's still b etter |
| 20:53.18 | kyle__ | ATI |
| 20:53.24 | Adys | nVidia |
| 20:53.30 | Adys | never, ever use ATI under linux |
| 20:53.32 | syberghost | For Linux, right now? Nvidia. |
| 20:53.42 | syberghost | Maybe in a couple years that'll change. |
| 20:53.43 | kyle__ | ok arguement settled lol |
| 20:53.46 | syberghost | Right now, Nvidia. |
| 20:53.49 | pcj | AMD sucks |
| 20:54.04 | kyle__ | in a couple years i'm going to be either 1) dead or 2) able to afford a new laptop |
| 20:54.11 | Ose | ur mom sucks |
| 20:54.14 | syberghost | AMD/ATI video under Linux makes me consider violence. |
| 20:54.26 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.27 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.31 | Adys | its pretty clear i think |
| 20:54.31 | mxs | syberghost: nvidia video under linux makes me feel durty |
| 20:54.45 | syberghost | mxs: true, but you can feel that way in proper 3D acceleration. |
| 20:55.12 | Adys | ATI is so horribly bugged under linux you have no idea |
| 20:55.45 | syberghost | And they have a bad habit of dropping support for laptop video cards in a year or so. |
| 20:56.23 | syberghost | What was my primary gaming machine like three years ago now can't even do Compiz. |
| 20:57.13 | mxs | syberghost: yeah, and all due to those fucking closed-source drivers |
| 20:57.28 | mxs | as if there was ANYTHING in them that is not reverse engineered by the other guys the day after windows driver release, ANYway |
| 20:57.49 | syberghost | mxs: it's not just that they're closed source, it's that they're closed source AND they suck. Nvidia's are closed source but suck way less. |
| 20:58.07 | syberghost | AMD is opening them, and maybe in a few years that will matter. |
| 20:58.12 | syberghost | Today, it means precisely dick. |
| 20:58.35 | mxs | syberghost: nvidia's drivers suck a lot as well, especially in development situations |
| 20:58.41 | mxs | and support is being dropped there too |
| 20:58.53 | mxs | my old ISA cards still work, old nvidia cards have trouble |
| 20:59.03 | syberghost | Yep. |
| 20:59.04 | kyle__ | so would it be possible to find a card for <$150? |
| 20:59.14 | pcj | not for your pos |
| 20:59.40 | syberghost | Hopefully the "Nvidia shit doesn't work anymore" window's start will overlap the "AMD's open source shit doesn't work yet" end. |
| 20:59.45 | mxs | and it's not really so much about "just" open source -- decent freaking documentation on past and present chipsets would be enough already |
| 21:00.06 | pcj | there needs to be more competition in the video card market imo |
| 21:00.13 | syberghost | Because I do NOT want to have to go back to booting Windows for my gaming. |
| 21:00.35 | syberghost | Been there, done that, screamed and ripped the t-shirt. |
| 21:00.51 | kyle__ | afk |
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| 21:01.34 | pcj | is the geforce 200 series the latest one |
| 21:02.06 | syberghost | No idea. I've got a BFG factory-overclocked 8800 GT and it works awesome. |
| 21:02.09 | pcj | kabaka you're goign to OSU? |
| 21:03.06 | pcj | i see |
| 21:03.10 | syberghost | 100+ FPS in Wow windowed at 1920x1200. |
| 21:03.45 | pcj | is this any good http://www.atacom.com/program/print_html_new.cgi?USER_ID=www&Item_code=VIDR_PNYX_PC_6M&cart_id=5692443_24_253_229_132 |
| 21:04.28 | syberghost | That should rock balls, pcj. |
| 21:04.49 | syberghost | That's the kind of shit you render a Lucasfilm movie on. |
| 21:05.02 | pcj | I imagine they have a render farm actually |
| 21:05.09 | syberghost | yeah, I was being facetious. |
| 21:05.40 | kyle__ | damnit this sucks, i don't want to buy another computer |
| 21:05.41 | syberghost | About that part; not about the "rock balls" part. |
| 21:09.08 | syberghost | My work laptop has the Quadro FX 1500M. |
| 21:09.49 | syberghost | They dicked us around on laptops for years, so when they told us to put together our requirements, one of my coworkers went to the HP website, found all the things that were only on their highest-end laptops, and listed those as our requirements. |
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| 21:14.15 | Fisker- | LAAAAAAAAAAME |
| 21:14.20 | Fisker- | WotLK is active on EU |
| 21:14.31 | selckin | 2 hours early ffs |
| 21:14.34 | selckin | not picked up my copy yet |
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| 21:15.18 | liamispro | lolwut |
| 21:15.27 | selckin | people in northrend on my realm |
| 21:15.28 | liamispro | not even buying my copy until 12 lol |
| 21:15.30 | Eraclito | but the boats are not working |
| 21:15.39 | Eraclito | they teleport players back to the harbor |
| 21:16.16 | Eraclito | btw, i'm going to buy my collector edition tomorrow when gamestop opens |
| 21:16.16 | liamispro | lol |
| 21:16.17 | liamispro | i'm just getting the standard edition |
| 21:16.26 | Eraclito | and his ticket are like gollum and the ring |
| 21:16.31 | Eraclito | my treeeeeasure |
| 21:18.19 | syberghost | It's kind of a lame Collector's Edition. |
| 21:18.41 | Eraclito | there're not many cool stuff |
| 21:18.47 | Eraclito | the mouse pad |
| 21:18.51 | Eraclito | the frost wyrm companion |
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| 21:19.02 | Eraclito | i think a book or something |
| 21:19.17 | Eraclito | what i missed? |
| 21:19.47 | Kirkburn|afk | kd3, thanks for doing the change |
| 21:19.51 | kd3 | np |
| 21:19.55 | X3 | Will a regular non super walmart, carry a collectors edition of Wrath? |
| 21:20.03 | Kirkburn|afk | It might |
| 21:20.16 | Kirkburn|afk | But I think a game-specific store is more likely to |
| 21:20.16 | Eraclito | mmh |
| 21:20.22 | Eraclito | i know they're limited |
| 21:20.26 | Eraclito | two for each store |
| 21:20.32 | syberghost | I'm not going to bother. |
| 21:20.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Two!? |
| 21:20.36 | Eraclito | the local gamestop is quite big and it only has two copies |
| 21:20.38 | Eraclito | two |
| 21:20.46 | Eraclito | a good friend works inside |
| 21:21.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Insanity, they really should just produce more |
| 21:21.10 | Eraclito | i have to thanks him for my collector |
| 21:21.39 | Eraclito | yep, and as i said, i don't think in the collector edition there's lot of stuff |
| 21:21.49 | Eraclito | just a couple of gadgets |
| 21:22.03 | kd3 | meh. I still need to scan my "wrath cinematic artbook" at some point |
| 21:22.04 | Mats | GRUNT: state: LOGIN_STATE_FAILED result: LOGIN_UNKNOWN_ACCOUNT |
| 21:22.04 | Eraclito | i hoped for a frost wyrm fly mount >.> |
| 21:22.08 | Mats | Whats up with that stuff :< |
| 21:22.09 | kd3 | plenty of goodies in there |
| 21:22.13 | Mats | Are they raping the login server? |
| 21:22.20 | kd3 | mats; likely |
| 21:22.33 | kd3 | era; you should get it in the mail first time you log in |
| 21:22.41 | kd3 | otherwise create a level 1 and mail it to your main |
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| 21:33.58 | pcj | hmm |
| 21:34.08 | kd3 | whee |
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| 21:36.37 | kd3 | huh. when'd newegg start advertising on the wiki? |
| 21:37.34 | pcj | Before we switched to the .wikia.com domain |
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| 21:47.24 | syberghost | <3 Newegg. |
| 21:47.24 | Tuqui-tuqui | 0.o |
| 21:47.24 | Tuqui-tuqui | did anyone else get this? |
| 21:47.24 | Tuqui-tuqui | 04:48 NickServ Notice: This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>. |
| 21:47.25 | syberghost | of course |
| 21:47.25 | syberghost | Services went away and came back. |
| 21:47.33 | Tuqui-tuqui | ahh... I thought I was losing my name :< |
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| 21:53.56 | crucially_ | http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg12843.html |
| 21:55.36 | pcj | http://www.internetpulse.com/ |
| 21:55.43 | pcj | verizon is dying |
| 21:57.49 | crucially_ | layer (3) just de-peered UUnet/Verizon/MCI, looks like |
| 21:57.52 | crucially_ | yes |
| 21:58.03 | crucially_ | pcj: we are at 40% of our normal us west coast traffic |
| 21:59.04 | syberghost | Lovely; that should help out with the Wow troubleshooting tonight. |
| 21:59.05 | pcj | i blame wikia |
| 21:59.17 | syberghost | I blame crucially_. |
| 21:59.40 | syberghost | I've been told that's a good default. |
| 22:00.05 | pcj | crucially can you provide an eta to when you'll fix it |
| 22:01.58 | *** part/#wowwiki sannse (n=me@wikia/pdpc.active.sannse) |
| 22:02.35 | crucially_ | pcj: we are working on rerouting |
| 22:21.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Wrath is live in Europe? |
| 22:21.53 | Fisker- | yes |
| 22:22.02 | Fisker- | i want to hurt the people responsible :3 |
| 22:22.07 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 22:22.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Blizz just told me, fun :P |
| 22:23.04 | Fisker- | why would they do that? :E |
| 22:25.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Cause I is awesum |
| 22:25.36 | Fisker- | no |
| 22:25.39 | Fisker- | I IS AM AWSUM |
| 22:26.16 | mxs | let's have a peeringbattle between qwest and level3 next |
| 22:26.38 | mxs | and possibly at&t/comcast |
| 22:26.42 | mxs | that would make forums fun :> |
| 22:36.05 | kd3 | shudders |
| 22:36.54 | kd3 | tabs open his gmail account to watch nanog |
| 22:41.38 | Kirkburn|afk | kd3, woops :P |
| 22:41.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Thanks for fixing :) |
| 22:43.35 | kd3 | np |
| 22:43.45 | Kirkburn|afk | The WoWWiki main page two years ago today: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=302643 ... apparently the TBC NDA had just lifted |
| 22:44.13 | *** join/#wowwiki soufron_ (n=soufron@vol75-1-81-57-79-123.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:45.46 | sacarasc | slaps Kirkburn|afk |
| 22:45.51 | sacarasc | "the TBC" |
| 22:45.54 | sacarasc | BAD |
| 22:46.15 | Kirkburn|afk | I disagree |
| 22:46.36 | sacarasc | you may, but it still sounds bad |
| 22:46.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Only if you expand it out :P |
| 22:47.42 | Kirkburn|afk | "apparently TBC NDA had just lifted" is worse, silly |
| 22:47.55 | pcj | actually |
| 22:47.58 | pcj | the BC NDA |
| 22:48.01 | pcj | but |
| 22:48.04 | pcj | oh well |
| 22:48.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Aaanyway, that was the days before I we discovered CSS - http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=302643&useskin=monobook |
| 22:48.27 | pcj | i find it interesting that we had 65,907 articles back then |
| 22:48.35 | Kirkburn|afk | The "the" on http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:TBCLogo.png really is ridiculously tiny |
| 22:48.58 | Kirkburn|afk | pcj, I should be able to find out, actually, sec |
| 22:49.10 | pcj | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_while_John_had_had_had_had_had_had_had_had_had_had_had_a_better_effect_on_the_teacher |
| 22:49.21 | Kirkburn|afk | About 15,000 back then |
| 22:49.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Hmm, actually, by that point we may have hit 16,000 |
| 22:50.14 | Kirkburn|afk | One year ago we had 41k |
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| 22:50.35 | pcj | That would be item articles |
| 22:50.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Dunno just how much more of an increase WotLK can give us |
| 22:50.54 | pcj | "Increase your db size by up to 30%!" |
| 22:51.01 | pcj | -spam e-mails wiki admins get |
| 22:51.11 | Degek | ok i know im a noob, but im getting woltk in about 20min and i cant find a good talent build for healing 5man's as a priest till 80, can anyone give me a direction to go in. sorry for the stupid question:) |
| 22:51.12 | Kirkburn|afk | pcj, some, but not all. The increase looks to be fairly steady, rather than "bot spurts" |
| 22:53.20 | Kirkburn|afk | In terms of just plain text we're certainly well over a gigabyte (though this is hugely compressed now) |
| 22:53.53 | Kirkburn|afk | (yes, that's more than it sounds) |
| 22:56.28 | Kirkburn|afk | Look at article count charts, it's been a pretty steady increase for the past year, only August 2007 was particularly anomalous (166 new articles per DAY) |
| 22:56.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyway, this is all on http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:WikiaStats |
| 22:57.11 | pcj | kirkburn what about user-agents |
| 22:57.13 | pcj | is that recorded |
| 22:57.21 | pcj | i know you were talking about fx winning out |
| 22:57.39 | pcj | someone was whining about something not looking right in IE6 and i didn't think we should bother |
| 22:57.46 | *** join/#wowwiki Bibi` (n=Bibi@AVelizy-151-1-20-96.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:57.46 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Bibi`] by ChanServ |
| 22:57.48 | Kirkburn|afk | I'll check latest data, sec |
| 23:00.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Of data recorded, IE6 accounts for just over 5% of visits |
| 23:01.23 | pcj | woo |
| 23:01.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Firefox is over 50%, IE7 is about 30% |
| 23:01.43 | pcj | monaco looks terrible on ie5.5 btw |
| 23:01.51 | pcj | well |
| 23:01.53 | pcj | more terrible |
| 23:01.57 | pcj | if that were possible |
| 23:02.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, surprisingly, we don't get many hits on IE 5.5 |
| 23:03.21 | Kirkburn|afk | How does <0.004% strike you? :) |
| 23:04.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Actually there's almost as many hits from Windows 95 as from IE 5.5 |
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| 23:04.45 | kd3 | o_O |
| 23:04.49 | kd3 | people are still using 95? |
| 23:05.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Apparently |
| 23:05.40 | pcj | 95 is the best WinOS designed for home use before XP |
| 23:05.43 | sacarasc | or fake the http header things |
| 23:05.59 | Kirkburn|afk | pcj, 08? |
| 23:06.02 | Kirkburn|afk | *98? |
| 23:06.05 | pcj | meh |
| 23:06.12 | kd3 | I rather liked 98se |
| 23:06.15 | pcj | had a larger memory overhead |
| 23:06.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Um, in the context of Macintosh OS', what is 68K? |
| 23:06.42 | pcj | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS#68000_emulation |
| 23:08.01 | *** join/#wowwiki ANTRat (n=antrat@rrcs-97-76-73-47.se.biz.rr.com) |
| 23:08.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Apparently someone tried that with WoWWiki :P |
| 23:08.56 | pcj | people still use macs? |
| 23:09.07 | jaxdahl | unfortunately. |
| 23:09.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Other good news: IE is trending down, and Fx is trending up (but it's slow) |
| 23:10.54 | Sandwichman2448 | slinks off. |
| 23:12.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Egad, 133 different versions of flash were detected in the last WEEK |
| 23:12.23 | Kirkburn|afk | For god's sake people, update |
| 23:12.42 | jaxdahl | sites like kongregate.com should force people to update their flash players |
| 23:12.51 | jaxdahl | if they are running an insecure version |
| 23:13.51 | pcj | flash is bad |
| 23:13.51 | pcj | we shouldn't even accept it for ads |
| 23:13.52 | Kirkburn|afk | The people overwhelming support the Presi... I mean, Java. |
| 23:14.11 | Kirkburn|afk | (not JS) |
| 23:14.22 | pcj | duh |
| 23:14.59 | Kirkburn|afk | wtf people visiting with 1bit screen colour depth |
| 23:15.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Why do I have a feeling that's kd3... |
| 23:17.20 | Kirkburn|afk | 520-bit ... o_O |
| 23:17.37 | Kabaka | Haha |
| 23:19.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Actually more O_o .... 0-bit |
| 23:19.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Bet that's totally readable. |
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| 23:21.58 | Fisker- | i hate you Kirkburn|afk |
| 23:21.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Yo Tekkub |
| 23:22.00 | Fisker- | give me SC2 |
| 23:22.12 | Tekkub | wut |
| 23:22.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Fisker-, dude, I can't sign up for it yet anyway |
| 23:22.40 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/misc/beta-signup.html <-- closed |
| 23:23.44 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 23:23.45 | Fisker- | but giev |
| 23:23.48 | Fisker- | giev key |
| 23:29.58 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm going to taunt you with it by reading it to myself |
| 23:30.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Wow, what an awesome code |
| 23:30.35 | Kirkburn|afk | All those Gs and Ms and 9s |
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| 23:30.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Ooh, a z! |
| 23:32.00 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm off for the night, crucially_ is your man if something goes weird :) |
| 23:32.22 | Kirkburn|afk | *And* you can probably blame him for it too. Bonus. |
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| 23:32.57 | g0urra | fuck yeah wotlk ce |
| 23:33.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Bastid |
| 23:33.24 | Kirkburn|afk | I mean, congrats |
| 23:33.25 | Kirkburn|afk | And enjoy |
| 23:34.07 | g0urra | 5 hours in line |
| 23:34.20 | Kirkburn|afk | O_O |
| 23:35.41 | pcj | WOOHOO I WON A BETA KEY |
| 23:35.43 | g0urra | hey it was worth it |
| 23:35.45 | g0urra | oooooold |
| 23:36.28 | Kirkburn|afk | g0urra, I believe you :) |
| 23:36.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyway, I'm off to bed |
| 23:36.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Have a great evening, all |
| 23:36.46 | Kirkburn|afk | And g0urra ... don't go to bed too late :P |
| 23:36.46 | g0urra | Night Kirkburn|afk |
| 23:36.54 | g0urra | Hey I don't plan on sleeping tonight |
| 23:37.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Surprise! |
| 23:37.12 | pcj | well don't go to bed [too late] |
| 23:50.08 | Fisker- | Any first aid trainers in borean tundra as horde? |
| 23:50.49 | pcj | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3439638/Cosmetic-surgery-addict-injected-cooking-oil-into-her-own-face.html |
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| 23:52.07 | pcj | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article5141745.ece |
| 23:52.59 | pcj | http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/11/fox-cancels-mad.html |
