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00:25.30 | kd3 | nah |
00:26.12 | kd3 | it's easier for me to use the firefox extension "It's all text" and have it proc a gvim window when I ask it to |
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02:08.31 | Eraclito | lol |
02:08.42 | Eraclito | i was boosting a my friend's alt |
02:08.47 | Eraclito | in sunken temple |
02:08.57 | X3 | If I talk about bots will i get banned |
02:09.16 | Eraclito | we killed shade of eranikus, and lots lots lots of green dragons aggroed |
02:10.31 | pcj | yeah they do that |
02:11.35 | Eraclito | it was cool that i was able to kill the boss before any dragonkin may enter the room |
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02:19.33 | AmyFairchild | Hi. :x |
02:19.44 | AmyFairchild | Can I ask for help using the WoW wiki? |
02:19.58 | Adys | what do you need? |
02:20.11 | AmyFairchild | I want to upload a picture of Valeera from the Wrath event in Stormwind. |
02:20.41 | Adys | http://wowwiki.com/Image:Valeera-wrath.jpg |
02:20.58 | Adys | click that and you should have an upload link |
02:21.02 | AmyFairchild | Thank you. |
02:21.26 | AmyFairchild | Should I call it another name in case she doesn't stay? Like Valeera-Stormwind or something? |
02:21.42 | Adys | doesnt matter |
02:22.18 | AmyFairchild | k |
02:23.18 | AmyFairchild | Thanks very much. |
02:25.44 | AmyFairchild | http://www.wowwiki.com/Valeera_Sanguinar#Wrath_of_the_Lich_King How's that? |
02:27.06 | Adys | jesus shes a hooker |
02:27.31 | Adys | and er yea doesnt matter really dont worry about it |
02:27.40 | AmyFairchild | k xD |
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02:30.58 | AmyFairchild | Thank you. */salute* |
02:31.41 | pcj | i'd do 'er |
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02:52.40 | mxs | Adys: the installer patched your US install ? |
02:52.44 | mxs | are you SURE ? |
02:53.05 | Adys | pretty sure |
02:53.12 | Adys | Im sleeping though |
02:53.39 | Eraclito | owww valeera looks so cute, as a child |
02:53.50 | Adys | [04:30:20] <@pcj> i'd do 'er |
02:53.54 | Adys | night |
03:15.26 | mxs | enUS installer on torrents now |
03:22.42 | pcj | is a link on your site mxs |
03:28.20 | opant | die frostwyrms die |
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03:46.50 | pcj | stop it crucially |
03:56.16 | crucially | stop what? |
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05:08.54 | pcj | that'll teach stormwind to build a harbor |
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05:33.30 | Eraclito | Thrall fights and loses to Garrosh <- zomg |
05:33.57 | kd3 | sigh. the horde version is so much more awesome than the alliance version |
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05:47.22 | Eraclito | [06:33:57] <kd3> sigh. the horde version is so much more awesome than the alliance version <- it's so true |
05:47.31 | Eraclito | but we have broll who shapeshift |
05:47.47 | Eraclito | and his shapeshift buff has a expire time =P |
05:47.57 | Eraclito | "time remaining 3 mins" |
05:48.05 | Eraclito | and... ... <.< |
05:48.17 | Eraclito | valeera has a energy bar. like the players. |
05:48.39 | Eraclito | not like the other "warrior icon" npcs |
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05:50.28 | kd3 | there's a bunch of mobs with energy bars in northrend |
05:51.52 | Eraclito | cool |
05:52.00 | Eraclito | <- not in the beta |
05:52.12 | Eraclito | <- in the ptr for two days, when gnomes were bugged |
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06:20.01 | Bunny | =[ |
06:20.06 | Bunny | Come on, not everyone is idle |
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07:54.42 | X3 | Did Thrall die? |
07:55.52 | Kabaka | Many times. D: |
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08:26.20 | X3 | In the lore, did Thrall die? |
08:32.45 | X3 | Ok, just watched the fight, Thrall didnt die |
08:32.48 | X3 | just got in a duel and lost |
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12:14.35 | Eraclito | w00t new headphones and mouse :> |
12:14.52 | Eraclito | the previous mouse wheel was *bad* |
12:15.09 | Eraclito | i had to roll it about 20sec for zoom out |
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13:15.40 | pcj | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/10/AR2008111000586_pf.html |
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14:16.44 | |nudave| | hmm, would it be worth it to complete some quests in SMV and then turn them in before going to northrend? |
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14:27.19 | Fisker- | Eraclito dust sucks |
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15:12.28 | Fisker- | y so srs mxs ? |
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15:24.31 | X3 | So there is some conflict between Thrall and Hellscream |
15:27.33 | syberghost | Don't set foot in Orgrimmar if you know what's good for you; at least, not in the Valley of Lag, formerlly the Valley of Honor. |
15:27.43 | X3 | Haha |
15:27.51 | centrix | lol |
15:27.52 | X3 | I had to check out the event that happenede |
15:27.53 | syberghost | I'm calling them Lagdragons. |
15:28.00 | X3 | Aka wyrms |
15:28.10 | syberghost | Ooooh, Lagwyrms, that's nice. |
15:28.16 | X3 | nice. Good teamwork |
15:29.15 | X3 | Anyone read the novels? |
15:29.22 | syberghost | All I've read is Rise of the Horde. |
15:29.26 | syberghost | Read that last week. |
15:29.34 | X3 | That one is really good |
15:29.38 | syberghost | And I started on the comics last month. |
15:29.51 | X3 | I've read about 7 of em |
15:29.59 | X3 | I need to read more, they are all way good so far |
15:32.01 | syberghost | I'm going to sign up for my county library's ebook system, see if any are online that way. |
15:32.13 | syberghost | I bought Rise of the Horde from mobipocket.com. |
15:32.33 | syberghost | I rarely buy dead tree editions anymore. |
15:34.07 | foxlit | If it's not made from dead trees, it's not worth buying! |
15:35.18 | X3 | I want live tree books! |
15:35.26 | X3 | syberghost: did you like that book? |
15:35.48 | syberghost | Yes, very much. |
15:36.08 | syberghost | foxlit: the most beatiful thing about a tree is what you can make after you kill it. |
15:36.10 | X3 | I found it very interesting how the horde started out. |
15:36.11 | opant | damn, wish our library system had an e-book section |
15:36.25 | X3 | and how they became corrupted |
15:36.31 | syberghost | opant: they can easily get one, simply by signing up with netlibrary.com. |
15:36.38 | syberghost | You might bring that site to their attention. |
15:36.43 | opant | it would actually provide me an excuse to buy a ebook reader :) |
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15:36.53 | syberghost | My ebook reader is my phone. |
15:36.59 | syberghost | So I ALWAYS have books with me. |
15:37.03 | syberghost | I've got three on it right now. |
15:38.29 | opant | the screen on mine isn't large enough for my eyesight :( |
15:40.05 | syberghost | Make the font bigger. So you gotta change pages more often, you get used to it quickly. |
15:46.54 | mxs | so apparently the wotlk install cd contains everything you need to play -- no prior installation required |
15:47.01 | mxs | err dvd |
15:47.02 | X3 | Really now? |
15:47.06 | X3 | That is good! |
15:47.14 | X3 | Reinstalling was a bitch. |
15:47.22 | mxs | gonna test that in a minute, but that is what I was told |
15:47.46 | centrix | you already have the install DVD? |
15:48.08 | mxs | let's say I have the image |
15:48.21 | centrix | nice |
15:48.26 | mxs | send a tell if you need it :P |
15:48.47 | X3 | Nice |
15:49.11 | X3 | It comes out in 2 days huh |
15:49.29 | centrix | how big is the image? |
15:49.44 | X3 | 9GB? |
15:50.38 | syberghost | Let's not say you have it. Let's just wink and nudge a lot. |
15:50.40 | mxs | 8 |
15:50.48 | sacarasc | bout time they did it on a dvd, all them CDs are annoying |
15:50.53 | X3 | Agreed. |
15:51.01 | opant | winks |
15:51.02 | mxs | sacarasc: let's say I know a guy who knows a guy |
15:51.09 | X3 | nudges |
15:51.24 | mxs | <-- in Germany, playing on US realms. Of course that guy is gonna be proactive. |
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15:51.33 | syberghost | A wink's as good as a nod to a blind bat, ay what. |
15:51.46 | X3 | Ugh, I need to go buy it.. |
15:51.52 | centrix | yeah it's already out on torrent sites as well |
15:52.05 | centrix | not like bliz will care they offer it for download |
15:52.05 | mxs | but really, if you need the image, that guy I know who knows that guy might know how to help you. |
15:52.12 | syberghost | X3: I *NEVER* do this, but I'm going to be there at BestBuy at midnight Thursday in my Horder shirt, geeking out with all the kids. |
15:52.26 | X3 | Hahahaha |
15:52.36 | Fisker- | confirmed mxs |
15:52.38 | X3 | Its fun actually |
15:52.41 | syberghost | I haven't stood in a long line for something since Journey was still in the top 10. |
15:52.45 | centrix | heh I just go 2 walmart...not as crowded |
15:52.57 | syberghost | BestBuy is going to have a massive event. |
15:53.02 | X3 | I might get mine at walmart |
15:53.18 | syberghost | Posters, energy drinks, PCs set up to play, everybody wearing their faction gear; the works. |
15:53.22 | centrix | heh my wife got it for my while i was at work |
15:53.39 | syberghost | I'm taking Thursday and Friday off but still paying the nanny to pick up the kids from school. :) |
15:53.41 | centrix | she said she walked in got the collectors edition and walked right back out |
15:54.10 | X3 | I want the collectors edition |
15:54.15 | X3 | Do they have it at walmart? |
15:54.21 | syberghost | Although anybody who logs onto those PCs to play and doesn't have an Authenticator is an idiot. |
15:54.37 | centrix | yup |
15:54.49 | X3 | centrix: was that up directed at me |
15:54.58 | X3 | yup* |
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15:58.50 | X3 | Dang. all servers are down |
16:00.15 | syberghost | mxs broke them with his HAX |
16:00.29 | X3 | slaps mxs |
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16:05.50 | mxs | apparently some 7-11 sold wotlk already |
16:06.05 | sacarasc | mxs: why do you play WoW on US servers? |
16:06.17 | sacarasc | do you really hate us europeans that much? |
16:06.29 | Fisker- | can it be no shit tiems? |
16:06.39 | mxs | Because some numbnut at Blizzard promised, twice, in press releases, that I could play on EU realms with EU friends after release. |
16:06.45 | mxs | Whatever happened to that ... |
16:06.49 | syberghost | Oh, shit; I'm going to walk to 7-11 at lunch then, see if they're doing it here. |
16:07.20 | Fisker- | teehee mxs :D |
16:07.20 | mxs | sacarasc: and US got released 3 months earlier :) |
16:07.26 | Fisker- | i don't get it though |
16:07.32 | X3 | I think EU and US should play together |
16:07.43 | Fisker- | i can see absolutely no reason why they shouldn't allow one to transfer region |
16:07.44 | mxs | X3: as do I. Especially since it was a cold, hard promise. |
16:07.50 | mxs | Well, a cold, hard lie. |
16:07.58 | X3 | Yea |
16:08.01 | mxs | Fisker-: accounting nutjobs, probably |
16:08.18 | X3 | I think the whole thing is set up as 2 different systems |
16:08.22 | X3 | different servers |
16:08.23 | mxs | which I could care less about. Since that statement, I don't believe any Blizzard promises. They played that card. |
16:08.26 | X3 | account info and stuff |
16:08.33 | mxs | not a big problem |
16:08.33 | sacarasc | i don't want americans on my server, bad enough with the british |
16:08.45 | mxs | sacarasc: you wouldn't get Americans |
16:08.56 | mxs | you would get New Zealanders and South Africans :) |
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16:09.59 | opant | I dont want the europeans on my server! |
16:10.05 | opant | neener :p |
16:10.06 | Fisker- | They also already transfer accounts X3 |
16:10.14 | Fisker- | They even made the loginserver able to handle different regions |
16:10.27 | Fisker- | there's really no excuse |
16:10.40 | Fisker- | but perhaps it means they might do it with the blizzard account |
16:10.43 | Fisker- | stuff |
16:10.48 | Fisker- | still, way too late |
16:11.14 | Fisker- | Infact they might as well make a intro for the region transfers |
16:11.20 | Fisker- | "Hell, it's about time" |
16:11.55 | sacarasc | hehe |
16:11.58 | Fisker- | Noone can possibly have conceive what i did there |
16:12.04 | Fisker- | +d |
16:12.20 | Fisker- | fresh and unexpected |
16:13.19 | X3 | =) |
16:13.21 | Fisker- | still need 150 quests |
16:13.25 | Fisker- | and i only got tomorrow :E |
16:13.47 | Fisker- | = your fault mxs |
16:14.18 | sacarasc | when in doubt, blame the germans, Fisker-? |
16:14.18 | X3 | slaps mxs |
16:15.00 | Fisker- | indeed sacarasc |
16:15.23 | X3 | Illidan is frickin retarded, he forgot I'm a boyscout |
16:15.26 | X3 | I AM FUCKING PREPARED |
16:15.43 | sacarasc | lol |
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16:16.27 | centrix | lol |
16:16.35 | centrix | sadly i nvr seen Illidan |
16:16.53 | sacarasc | with the recent nerfs, centrix, you should get to see him |
16:17.18 | sacarasc | before the nerfs, my guild was 3 or 4/9 in BT, that week we cleared it |
16:17.30 | X3 | Its ok, I havent seen him either |
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16:17.39 | mxs | what, you didn't clear kj ? :> |
16:17.51 | sacarasc | my guild is scared of SWP |
16:17.51 | mxs | there are scrubs running around with thoridal now |
16:18.12 | sacarasc | i wanna go there to upgrade my helm and offhand |
16:18.21 | sacarasc | yay trash drops |
16:18.31 | centrix | heh we been doing pug BT's on Malorne now but still everyone gets tired before we make it to Illidan |
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16:37.40 | X3 | Someone spam me with PMs when the servers come back up |
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16:41.38 | X3_ | info |
16:45.36 | bamaboy` | i was hopeing dell would sell wowlk since i have a giftcard..... |
16:45.39 | bamaboy` | they sell bc and prebc |
16:45.52 | bamaboy` | not wraith though it seems |
16:52.05 | syberghost | Well, good news and bad news; 7-11 here does in fact have a shelf display of WotLK "empty box - take me to register". |
16:52.11 | syberghost | But when you get there, they don't have the game yet. |
16:52.22 | syberghost | I bitched them out for having it on the shelf. |
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17:06.56 | Fisker- | lol |
17:06.58 | Fisker- | Copyright 2008 by grindkings.net . All downloads are saved on servers located in europe, we do not host the files at this site. |
17:07.13 | Fisker- | I'm wondering if they're selling a link to TPB for â¬20 ololol |
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17:13.16 | centrix | heh i'm workin on downloading an iso |
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17:25.59 | pcj | http://www.twentyfifthnovember.com/ |
17:26.01 | pcj | *fapfapfap* |
17:30.18 | Ose | oooold |
17:31.54 | Adys | er |
17:31.55 | Adys | mxs |
17:31.56 | Adys | ping |
17:32.08 | pcj | its a trap |
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17:37.56 | mxs | Adys: plonk |
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17:43.43 | Tuqui-tuqui | hello o/ |
17:43.46 | Tuqui-tuqui | I have a question |
17:44.11 | Tuqui-tuqui | I created a page, but how do I get rid of the Contents box |
17:44.58 | Tuqui-tuqui | the question should be how do I remove the Contents box |
17:45.01 | Tuqui-tuqui | engrish ftl |
17:45.44 | pcj | __NOTOC__ |
17:46.10 | Tuqui-tuqui | would that go on the very top of the page? |
17:46.17 | pcj | anywhere |
17:46.19 | Tuqui-tuqui | kk |
17:46.21 | Tuqui-tuqui | thank you :> |
17:46.51 | Tuqui-tuqui | it worked! \o/ |
17:47.26 | mxs | anybody got the wotlk enUS dvd in-hand ? |
17:47.41 | pcj | why |
17:47.42 | mxs | gonna need the mac installer parts if at all possible :> |
17:47.55 | pcj | i've been using it as a coaster for the past week |
17:48.04 | mxs | you suck ! :P |
17:49.41 | mxs | brb, shower |
17:50.25 | mxs | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/checksum/fileset/255 <-- there's the checksums |
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18:02.59 | pcj | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1084723/Couple-arrested-having-sex-crowded-train.html |
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18:04.51 | pcj | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1084741/Ryanair-flies-storm-sexist-charity-calendar-featuring-scantily-clad-cabin-crew.html |
18:16.43 | mxs | "'If there had been men in the calendar I'm sure there would have been no controversy.'" |
18:16.47 | mxs | bwahahahaa |
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18:20.21 | syberghost | And no sales. |
18:22.18 | pcj | idk fisker might buy them out |
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18:40.52 | bamaboy` | . |
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18:43.51 | Fisker- | i hate you pcj |
18:44.09 | pcj | you would |
18:44.13 | pcj | i represent everything you loathe |
18:44.30 | pcj | heterosexual man |
18:44.53 | Fisker- | no |
18:45.07 | Fisker- | You're putting >:3 into my mouth |
18:45.23 | bamaboy` | some of the servers are up |
18:45.41 | Fisker- | like the EU servers |
18:45.42 | Fisker- | hoho |
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18:45.52 | bamaboy` | mines up oO |
18:46.02 | pcj | that's what she said |
18:46.09 | bamaboy` | indeed |
18:46.11 | Fisker- | stupid timbermaw |
18:46.38 | Fisker- | You can obviously see the tunnel behind the gate to timbermaw hold has collapsed |
18:46.41 | Fisker- | yet they still guard it |
18:46.46 | Fisker- | like there's something to guard |
18:46.54 | bamaboy` | cant fix stupid :/ |
18:46.55 | pcj | obviously it is the timbermaw equivalent of area 51 |
18:47.02 | bamaboy` | obviously |
18:47.05 | pcj | i suspect the draenei also crashed there |
18:47.15 | bamaboy` | we need some shady satelite photos to confirm |
18:52.20 | bamaboy` | got some reports of mail being erased oO |
18:53.15 | bamaboy` | ah they are rebooting again lol |
19:02.46 | syberghost | Furbies aren't hired based on their IQ. |
19:04.33 | pcj | in soviet russia pudding spoons you |
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19:08.02 | bamaboy` | d |
19:14.09 | mxs | yepp, only two of the 12 war bears in my mail survived. |
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19:15.29 | Ose | wat? |
19:15.45 | centrix | ur server up? |
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19:17.00 | Ose | of course my server is up |
19:17.07 | Ose | why shouldn't it be? |
19:17.22 | bamaboy` | mine wasy they rebotted it due to peoples mail and ah stuff missing lol |
19:17.34 | g0urra | wait what |
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19:17.55 | bleeter | missing, or just not cached and latency causing a realm crash? |
19:18.10 | bamaboy` | crushridge wa sup until they discoverred mail and ah stuff was mia lol |
19:18.19 | bamaboy` | id imagine it was a caching issue or something |
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19:18.53 | bleeter | oh, yer right... look at the /alert! hah |
19:19.14 | bleeter | We are investigating an issue with the mail system and continuing maintenance on all realms. We currently have no estimate on when realm will be playable. Thank you for your patience. |
19:19.34 | bleeter | 10/10 for the spelling check, blizz |
19:19.44 | bleeter | minus several bajizillion for missing the grammar check as well |
19:19.54 | centrix | heh y'd they bring em up 2 shut em down again lol |
19:20.02 | AlienCat | does anyone know for sure what's gonna happen to the badges system? |
19:20.23 | centrix | i believe there will be new badges @ lvl 80 |
19:20.30 | Ose | well duh |
19:20.33 | bamaboy` | ya completely new system |
19:21.04 | AlienCat | so basically spend them before the expansion comes out or wait till you're 80? :) |
19:21.09 | Ose | spend |
19:21.52 | AlienCat | when exactly does this start? i need 15 more badges for something and i wanna make sure i dont miss out |
19:21.52 | Ose | [[Badge of Justice]] is for TBC, [[Emblem of Heroism]] (I think) is for WotLK |
19:21.53 | Dotted | Ose meant: www.wowwiki.com/Badge_of_Justice, www.wowwiki.com/Emblem_of_Heroism |
19:22.17 | Ose | you can't buy any 80 gear for BoJs, k? |
19:22.45 | bleeter | AlienCat: when do BoJ's start in BC? Prolyl a clue there ;) |
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19:22.57 | AlienCat | no i mean i want to grind the heroics before the expansion comes out i just want to knwo the exact hour it all goes away |
19:23.09 | Ose | they don't go away |
19:23.18 | bamaboy` | you just cant use them to buy level 80 gear |
19:23.39 | AlienCat | oh so i can still do lvl 70 content and get lvl 70 gear from them even after the exp goes online? |
19:23.40 | Ose | some people aren't goingto get WotLK straight away, they should still get to go grind badges and get better gear, right? |
19:23.44 | Ose | yes |
19:23.53 | bamaboy` | ya |
19:23.56 | AlienCat | yay sweet :D thats what i was worried about |
19:24.25 | bamaboy` | lol you know some tech is pissed right now |
19:24.32 | bamaboy` | says their ready to turn on the servers everythings fine |
19:24.33 | AlienCat | ? |
19:24.35 | bamaboy` | it boots.... no mail lol |
19:24.46 | bleeter | I'm transferring all my 40-60 toons to my2nd account, then gunna level my mains to 80 on my wrath account, then go dual box BC content for alt badges |
19:24.49 | AlienCat | lol who needs mail :P |
19:24.51 | bamaboy` | he cries in the corner for a while and begs the server to work |
19:25.04 | bleeter | and hopefully own a bunch of levelling DK's in hellfire |
19:25.16 | bleeter | i'ma gunna camp that zone so hard >< |
19:25.20 | bamaboy` | the biggest issue facing dks is how to run ramps with five dks oO |
19:25.51 | Tekkub | five? |
19:25.51 | bleeter | bamaboy`: particularly with bastards like me camping the doors >< |
19:25.51 | Tekkub | I did it with two! |
19:25.51 | bamaboy` | lol |
19:25.51 | AlienCat | lol |
19:25.55 | bleeter | Tekkub: @ lvl 58? |
19:25.56 | bamaboy` | true you will make it an issue bleeter |
19:25.58 | bleeter | u lie! :P |
19:25.59 | Tekkub | 61 |
19:26.11 | Tekkub | was a lil slow going, but got through the first boss |
19:26.18 | bleeter | hehe |
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19:28.19 | bleeter | my guild and I spent last night working out our camping/questing/instancing rotations |
19:28.28 | bleeter | aye, we're gunna be real bastards >< |
19:28.32 | bamaboy` | lol |
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19:33.05 | mxs | so blizzard fuxxored the database |
19:33.12 | bamaboy` | hosed im sure lol |
19:33.15 | X3 | How so |
19:33.22 | bamaboy` | they ate everyones mail |
19:33.31 | bamaboy` | id imagine a mail/ah system upgrade did not go as planned oO |
19:33.34 | X3 | My server came back up |
19:33.38 | X3 | then went down 5 minutes later |
19:33.46 | bamaboy` | its bc everyones mail was mia |
19:35.22 | pcj | ur mom went down |
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19:48.29 | Kabaka[A] | Haha: http://tinyurl.com/6dr3x2 |
19:50.17 | Ose | "And then the Horde gets lost at sea and dies. The Lich King overruns the Alliance. The World of Warcraft ends. Good job, guys. You blew it." |
19:50.26 | syberghost | This is why Thrall lost. |
19:51.03 | pcj | ooooold |
19:51.26 | syberghost | ur mom is ooooold |
19:52.05 | X3 | Ose: hahahah |
19:52.50 | syberghost | "Also, could somebody run to 7/11 and buy a new map? This thing still has the USSR on it. And make sure you get one with Northrend, yeah?" <- win |
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19:57.09 | pantomimehorse | hai lol |
19:57.14 | Strawberryfur3 | Hey! |
19:57.28 | Strawberryfur3 | See barley anyone talks! |
19:57.50 | X3 | That would be rockin if they released another smaller continent besides northrend in the exp without telling anyone |
19:58.08 | Ose | heh |
19:58.12 | pantomimehorse | totally lol |
19:58.27 | g0urra | Strawberryfur3: not when you're just joining, no... |
19:58.36 | pantomimehorse | XD |
19:58.49 | pantomimehorse | hai g0urra |
19:58.58 | pantomimehorse | long time no see lol |
19:58.59 | Ose | some noob can't afford getting from kalimdor to EK, but thinks he can't afford the boat, then goes swimming |
19:59.08 | pantomimehorse | XD |
19:59.15 | Ose | suddenly he sees this island... |
19:59.17 | X3 | Are yall horde or ally |
19:59.37 | pantomimehorse | mostly alliance |
19:59.38 | pcj | yes |
19:59.45 | X3 | I'm ally |
19:59.57 | X3 | WTF, so the king of SW is bad ass right |
20:00.06 | pantomimehorse | um |
20:00.07 | X3 | Then how the hell did he get captured by the defias |
20:00.13 | X3 | I killed them when I was level 20 |
20:00.26 | g0urra | He wasn't badass back then |
20:00.33 | X3 | Guess not |
20:01.08 | pantomimehorse | lol |
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20:06.40 | mxs | it was 20000 defias and the lagmonster got him |
20:09.09 | g0urra | WHAT 20000?! |
20:15.06 | pcj | nerf lagmonster |
20:18.55 | syberghost | 20000? That can't be right! |
20:41.27 | Fisker- | haxes mxs |
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20:55.38 | mxs | "extended" maintenance. |
20:55.45 | mxs | update on when that will be done "in a few hours". |
20:55.58 | mxs | Seems the WotLK server jojo has started |
20:56.15 | Ose | alrite! |
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20:56.58 | mxs | bets on when the account management site will go belly-up ? |
20:57.10 | mxs | will it be during the night, or when people wake up to their UPS parcels ? |
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23:17.34 | |Pixel| | indeed |
23:17.37 | Fisker- | :O |
23:17.40 | |Pixel| | grats for living under a rock :P |
23:17.49 | Fisker- | np |
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23:17.59 | Adys | ~congratulate Fisker- for having sex regularly with a rock |
23:18.00 | infobot | ACTION congratulates Fisker- for having sex regularly with a rock on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
23:18.08 | Fisker- | lol |
23:18.11 | mxs | |Pixel|: so I can direct all my misguided hatred at you now ? Rock on ! |
23:18.11 | Fisker- | only heard you got a new job within blizzard not that it was in the US :P |
23:18.14 | Tsurphr | whoah sweet |
23:18.17 | Adys | a $500 brick? |
23:18.20 | Adys | hot |
23:18.24 | A2 | hi, somebody knows if it's possible to buy a woltk key online (without buying an useless box)Â ? |
23:18.31 | bleeter | nope |
23:18.32 | mxs | A2: no |
23:18.32 | mxs | not yet |
23:18.33 | Fisker- | not from Blizzard anyways |
23:18.36 | A2 | Â :( |
23:18.39 | A2 | so sad |
23:18.47 | Adys | |Pixel|: http://devcub.com/~adys/crash4.png |
23:18.47 | Fisker- | But |Pixel| you were saying about the CE upgrades? :P |
23:18.56 | Adys | 1-4, halp, someone :( |
23:19.32 | |Pixel| | Fisker-: hm ? |
23:19.49 | Fisker- | oh my bad |
23:19.50 | mxs | |Pixel|: would you mind lighting a fire below the behinds of the guys responsible for the downloadable installer ? I'll provide the matches :P |
23:19.58 | Fisker- | didn't read the last part about them being incompetent |
23:20.03 | pcj | i'll provide the nitroglycerine |
23:20.09 | |Pixel| | mxs: ha ha ha ha, with great pleasure :P |
23:20.31 | Tsurphr | pixel is blizzard emp? |
23:20.39 | mxs | |Pixel|: if it helps, tell em that the disorganized pirates on the interwebz were able to do what they could not about 3 days before release :P |
23:20.54 | |Pixel| | I'll hint you about something: |
23:20.54 | mxs | Maybe it'll sting a little |
23:21.10 | |Pixel| | the fact that wotlk isn't downloadable isn't a technical issue |
23:21.14 | mxs | I know |
23:21.27 | |Pixel| | it's a "trick" so that most people will need to take time to get the box, install the disc, etc |
23:21.28 | pcj | is it an ethical issue? |
23:21.35 | Fisker- | I thought it was more of a political issue :E |
23:21.35 | pcj | weak |
23:21.43 | pcj | just make the download take longer |
23:21.45 | mxs | It would just be nice if the community reps would not treat everybody as little children who cannot understand why downloadable installers and online keys are not being sold |
23:21.45 | |Pixel| | so that we don't have X million people trying to connect to the server at the exact release time |
23:21.49 | Adys | it was so obvious it'd get leaked |
23:22.09 | mxs | |Pixel|: Is that the official internal party line ? :) |
23:22.10 | Adys | pretty lame for people running for serverfirsts tho D: |
23:22.18 | |Pixel| | mxs: that's my wild guess |
23:22.18 | mxs | |Pixel|: since I can think of another reason |
23:22.32 | mxs | a reason that has a lot of $$$ behind it |
23:22.44 | |Pixel| | yeah well |
23:22.53 | |Pixel| | distributors don't like digital game sellings |
23:22.56 | |Pixel| | that's for sure as well |
23:23.08 | Tsurphr | that is the most likely story |
23:23.08 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
23:23.09 | Fisker- | hoho |
23:23.20 | mxs | WalMart, Best Buy, GameStop, etc. don't want to be cut out of the loop and could threaten not to market, say, Diablo 3 or Starcraft 2 as aggressively if they don't get their wotlk-pie-part |
23:23.23 | pcj | *activision blizzard |
23:23.27 | Adys | you can make it downloadable without selling a key online |
23:23.28 | Adys | but meh |
23:23.34 | |Pixel| | both stories are quite true |
23:23.39 | Fisker- | i refuse it pcj |
23:23.50 | pcj | I REFUSE YOU PIKACHU |
23:23.56 | Fisker- | but Vivendi got burned pretty badly by Valve |
23:24.08 | mxs | |Pixel|: if I were a real asshole I could make sure 80% of the people have the installer by tomorrow :> |
23:24.09 | Adys | what? |
23:24.19 | Fisker- | Valve made Steam |
23:24.30 | Fisker- | Vivendi got pissed as hell as it circumvented their income |
23:24.41 | |Pixel| | mxs: you mean, linking more broadly the torrents that already exists ? |
23:24.44 | Fisker- | Valve won because Vivendi = retards and signed away their rights themself |
23:24.52 | mxs | Fisker-: and yet, Steam is still a steaming pile of ... uh, I think we discussed this already :P |
23:25.00 | Tsurphr | its not that the distributors would threaten to do anything, Blizzard already has an obligation |
23:25.03 | Adys | mxs: steam! Steaming! haha! |
23:25.07 | Adys | hum. |
23:25.09 | mxs | |Pixel|: no, linking the CoBlitz link on wow forums |
23:25.15 | bleeter | Adys: u r steaming |
23:25.19 | Adys | ho ho ho |
23:25.23 | |Pixel| | co-what ? |
23:25.37 | mxs | http://coblitz.codeen.org/someotherURL |
23:25.43 | Fisker- | you may disagree about the DRM mxs but it really is quite sucessful |
23:25.45 | mxs | it's a free CDN for research purposes |
23:26.03 | mxs | I just need to add my proper patch mirror URL for the wotlk installer there and a gazillion people can download that 8gb rar file :) |
23:26.15 | Fisker- | research purposes :)? |
23:26.45 | mxs | coblitz and coral are research CDNs, yeah |
23:26.52 | Tsurphr | All I wanna do right now is get my ass online so I can grind some more defilers rep .. 9k til Conqueror! |
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23:27.03 | Fisker- | what's your link to the the WotLK iso mxs ? |
23:27.50 | mxs | |Pixel|: same CDN I must've pumped a couple dozen thousand beta downloads through (judging by the viewcount on the mirror thread in the beta tech support forum :) |
23:28.04 | mxs | Fisker-: not a link I'm gonna link in here until Blizzard releases the official torrents |
23:28.16 | Fisker- | awright :E |
23:28.17 | Tsurphr | ok I have a question .. will achievements ever amount to squat? besides titles and ugly mounts |
23:28.26 | mxs | Tsurphr: there are rumours |
23:28.26 | |Pixel| | mah ha |
23:28.27 | pcj | you can also get tabards! |
23:28.28 | mxs | but no |
23:28.47 | mxs | you also get a fully-measurable epeen |
23:28.54 | Adys | i heard you can get pvp gear with achievement points |
23:29.00 | Adys | and since Im +o in this room it must be true |
23:29.07 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-o Adys] by pcj |
23:29.10 | pcj | what |
23:29.13 | Fisker- | wat? |
23:29.18 | mxs | Adys also heard that pcj is cool |
23:29.25 | mxs | make of that what you will |
23:29.37 | Adys | qq |
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23:29.41 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Adys] by pcj |
23:29.51 | X3 | I dont care about the mail |
23:29.54 | X3 | lemme frickin play |
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23:30.10 | Adys | The hell |
23:30.19 | Fisker- | btw Adys |
23:30.20 | pcj | ohohoho |
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23:30.31 | Fisker- | did the Alliance bother to find a map with Northrend on it? |
23:30.33 | Fisker- | http://i36.tinypic.com/v4z8nt.jpg |
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23:30.42 | Fisker- | "Lets attack Northrend" |
23:30.45 | Fisker- | "Great idea, here's the map" |
23:30.50 | Fisker- | "Where's Northrend?" |
23:30.51 | Fisker- | :E |
23:31.01 | mxs | |Pixel|: do you know what the plans for the battle.net account are ? i.e. will existing Blizzard.com accounts tie into there ? (the ones you can currently attach your sc, d2, w3 keys to :) |
23:31.11 | mxs | oh, and here's some more tinder for that fire |
23:31.20 | Fisker- | won't it be the same? |
23:31.23 | |Pixel| | :D |
23:31.24 | Adys | arent battlenet and blizzard accounts the same? |
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23:31.30 | |Pixel| | that's an internal chit chat |
23:31.36 | |Pixel| | "that's blizzard accounts! |
23:31.42 | mxs | Adys: I have no idea, I have not seen the battle.net-account referred to as blizz account |
23:31.45 | |Pixel| | -nah, we should name them battle.net accounts, that sounds better! |
23:31.49 | |Pixel| | -nah blizzard! |
23:31.54 | |Pixel| | -nah, battle.net! |
23:31.55 | |Pixel| | etc... |
23:32.02 | mxs | ah. |
23:32.08 | pcj | why not just call them activision blizzard accounts |
23:32.13 | |Pixel| | that as well |
23:32.17 | Adys | No Actiblizzard ! |
23:32.21 | Tsurphr | why not call them donuts |
23:32.24 | |Pixel| | or blizzvision |
23:32.26 | Tsurphr | mmm donuts |
23:32.31 | Fisker- | btw |Pixel| |
23:32.34 | Adys | actiblizzion.net accounts! |
23:32.36 | Fisker- | oh wait |
23:32.37 | Fisker- | i just forgot |
23:32.41 | mxs | maybe the internal chitchat should be directed at making the D2, W3, SC cd keys not just work for one locale. (I can download enGB D2 only, need a second key for deDE ... Same for all the other games :) |
23:32.42 | Adys | EVERYONE HAPPY |
23:32.43 | Fisker- | you don't want people connecting at midnight |
23:32.48 | Fisker- | so my idea is horrible :D |
23:32.53 | |Pixel| | xD |
23:32.59 | Fisker- | Adys agreed though! |
23:33.05 | mxs | Acctiblizziocraftnet account Deluxe CE 2.0 |
23:33.11 | |Pixel| | mxs: that's a commercial decision to make it this way |
23:33.13 | foxlit | mxs: that's a feature! |
23:33.17 | |Pixel| | I asked my people the same question |
23:33.44 | Fisker- | oh yeah |
23:33.50 | Fisker- | I got all of my games locked for US besides one |
23:33.54 | Fisker- | enUS |
23:34.02 | Fisker- | Asked some guy to fix it for me |
23:34.03 | |Pixel| | I got them locked for enGB |
23:34.03 | Tsurphr | worldofactiblizzioncraftbattle.net |
23:34.06 | mxs | |Pixel|: what is the commercial decision behind it ? The game exists, the localizations exist, and people are not bloody likely to buy a second key just to play in ad ifferent language |
23:34.11 | Fisker- | he said he would get back to me |
23:34.15 | |Pixel| | mxs: seems they do... |
23:34.15 | Fisker- | about half a year ago :P |
23:34.40 | foxlit | mxs: people are not bloody likely to want to play in a different language, either. |
23:34.50 | Adys | What? |
23:34.52 | mxs | |Pixel|: I would like to have a phone chat with the person in charge. I shall have to have the ability to have you smack them on their head at a time of my choosing during that conversation :P |
23:34.55 | Adys | you kidding foxlit ? |
23:35.07 | mxs | foxlit: I don't know, I switch between German and English every now and then :) |
23:35.10 | |Pixel| | mxs: seems you want this device... |
23:35.15 | bleeter | as I've always said, the whole US/EU split smells to me of being an Oracle limitation back when they started designing the game |
23:35.21 | mxs | |Pixel|: the one that makes you rich if you invent it ? :) |
23:35.38 | Fisker- | what you say bleeter ? |
23:35.42 | Fisker- | Licensing BS? |
23:35.42 | bleeter | 'thou shal not have nodes in your cluster exceeding 200km's in distance' was, iirc, the O7 or O8 rule |
23:35.47 | Fisker- | :E |
23:36.09 | bleeter | had to do some *real* fancy foo to get it further than that, and when Blizz were designing they never thought it'd be this popular |
23:36.11 | Fisker- | But i thought they used mySQL! |
23:36.12 | |Pixel| | digs through penny arcade |
23:36.13 | Fisker- | or MSSQL! |
23:36.16 | bleeter | so they didn't scale the original oracle for it |
23:36.29 | bleeter | yeah, changing DB vendors ain't an easy thing ;) |
23:36.32 | mxs | |Pixel|: and oh, I love that there are torrents for all those language-versions, too. You don't actually NEED the blizard downloader if you can get the torrent :> |
23:36.41 | Fisker- | :3 |
23:36.53 | bleeter | company I was with had all kinds of nightmares trying to get beyond that limit |
23:37.11 | mxs | (though the CDN links for SC/D2/W3/etc. are protected by a path+salt MD5 -- I have not tried to get around that, but I am so damn curious whether I could :>) |
23:37.12 | |Pixel| | can't find it... anyway |
23:37.20 | |Pixel| | the remote choker grip from penny arcade |
23:37.31 | mxs | ah yeah :) |
23:37.33 | bleeter | course,the 'proper' solution was to use something from a company like Tandem... :/ |
23:37.38 | Tsurphr | |Pixel|: Blizzard stated that people would be "compensated" for all of the downtime from the 3.0 launch .. any clue what they are talking about? |
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23:37.54 | mxs | Tsurphr: free game time |
23:37.54 | bleeter | which we couldn't afford, and prolly based on Blizz's original business plan, they wouldn't have been able to afford wither |
23:37.57 | mxs | 3 days or so IIRFD |
23:37.59 | mxs | err IIRC |
23:38.16 | Adys | [01:36:18] <Tsurphr> -|Pixel|: Blizzard stated that people would be "compensated" for all of the downtime from the 3.0 launch .. any clue what they are talking about? |
23:38.18 | bleeter | to accounts in good standing |
23:38.19 | Adys | 3 days free playtime |
23:38.21 | Adys | been announced |
23:38.29 | bleeter | if you were suspended recently, yer outta luck proly |
23:38.40 | bleeter | yeah, check yer account payment history, it should already be in there |
23:38.41 | mxs | You don't really want to know how many mission critical systems of really, really big internet corporations RELY on mySQL |
23:38.45 | mxs | can't say anymore due to NDA |
23:38.50 | Tsurphr | kk |
23:38.50 | Fisker- | I got suspended for stealing a lot of candy corn :3 |
23:38.54 | pcj | WHAT NDA |
23:39.00 | pcj | WHAT |
23:39.04 | mxs | :P |
23:39.04 | pcj | THERE ISN'T AN NDA |
23:39.07 | Adys | there is no nda |
23:39.08 | mxs | none blizzard-related |
23:39.09 | Adys | FUCK YOU PCJ |
23:39.11 | Adys | gah |
23:39.17 | pcj | ooooold |
23:39.25 | mxs | oh, the nda didn't specify I could not talk about the fact that there is an NDA :> |
23:39.26 | bleeter | I don't think mysql even HAD clustering back in the mid 90's |
23:39.31 | Tsurphr | I figured they'd give everyone a free "Pwned by Blizzard" tabard in the mail or something instead |
23:39.41 | mxs | bleeter: I don't think it does, now. It's a hacky cludge. |
23:39.49 | bleeter | Q.E.D. |
23:40.10 | bleeter | big replication and split brains and the like is one hell of a tough problem |
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23:41.05 | mxs | |Pixel|: but maybe a headsup to your downloader dev-team : if you really want to protect the SC2/W3/D2 downloads, you should have blizzard downloaders identify themselves to eachother so as to not allow, say, uTorrent, Azureus, etc. to leech the data off of them (without some work) |
23:41.08 | Adys | is there a list on wowwiki of "It put the x on the y" quotes in wow? |
23:41.12 | Tsurphr | non disclosure for what? |
23:41.21 | |Pixel| | mxs: I *know* |
23:41.30 | mxs | bleeter: I know, I taught that for a couple of years :) |
23:41.37 | mxs | it's fun stuff though |
23:41.37 | pcj | do you mean memes adys |
23:41.41 | pcj | because that sounds a lot like memes |
23:41.43 | Adys | no pcj |
23:41.43 | mxs | well, TA/taught :> |
23:41.46 | |Pixel| | I'm using utorrent all the time |
23:41.47 | Fisker- | From what i can see utorrent can get blizzard seeds anyways |
23:41.51 | Adys | i mean a list of "It put the x on the y" uses in wow |
23:41.51 | |Pixel| | because it's way more intelligent |
23:41.53 | Adys | literally |
23:42.04 | Fisker- | atleast i can only get other clients when using the torrent and never the blizzard clients |
23:42.04 | mxs | |Pixel|: oh yes it is. I meant for the semi-protected ones though, not the wow patches |
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23:42.25 | bleeter | mxs: ah :) yeah, the company I was involved in was ... making blackjack and stuff for casinos in europe. you can kinda get an idea of some of the issues we faced, and how my experience with that can be applied to observing Blizz ;) |
23:42.38 | mxs | |Pixel|: if you look at the Diablo 2 downloader, it has CDN-protection built-in (i.e. salted path + IP in cookie for CDN), but the downloader will happily talk to other torrentclients |
23:42.56 | bleeter | mxs: we were selling to places (well, trying to) like Holland Casino, WestLotto (Germany), FDJ (France)... can't recall the Austrian place |
23:42.57 | Fisker- | bleeter "This is the 10th developer today that put in a backdoor!" |
23:43.13 | bleeter | but these guys had real big redundancy issues 'coz we were dealing with real money and gaming |
23:43.38 | mxs | |Pixel|: and I think I sent in a detailed bug report on how to make the Blizzard torrent client a lot better, back when WoW got released. Detailed as in specific algorithm changes, specific features needed to make it better for most people, specific changes to improve performance, etc. |
23:43.43 | mxs | it went to the bitbucket |
23:43.48 | bleeter | poker and stuff like that, single state.. easy as cake. multistate like blackjack... ugh |
23:43.52 | mxs | still essentially the same bloody torrent engine :> |
23:44.04 | g0urra | good night |
23:44.11 | bleeter | gnight g0urra, rest well mate :) |
23:44.48 | mxs | bleeter: yeah, it helps having people to yell at when stuff goes wrong |
23:45.00 | mxs | when you buy an Oracle license and it breaks, you can yell at them |
23:45.07 | mxs | (and it will break, that is a given) |
23:45.20 | Fisker- | so wait wat |
23:45.24 | bleeter | yeah, and the Oracle folks would yell at each other, the company would yell at the oracle folks |
23:45.39 | Fisker- | You can upgrade non-ce->ce now with that new upgrade page? |
23:45.41 | Fisker- | Or just fail? |
23:45.43 | bleeter | me and the government regulators would find the 'local' Sun cluster expert and ring them up |
23:45.54 | bleeter | and invariably stuff would get fixed a lot faster that way |
23:46.03 | bleeter | funny how people react to government regulators hehe |
23:46.09 | mxs | true |
23:46.36 | mxs | then again, it is very, very hard to beat mySQL in single-cluster performance without strict ACID |
23:46.55 | Adys | what |
23:46.59 | bleeter | Regulator: 'need to test failure such as A' me: 'erm, you don't want to test that.. it'll break.. and then there'll be $100,000 in replacement parts'.. Regulator: 'Really? Oh well, still gotta do it' |
23:46.59 | mxs | at least until you get into the range where you need to juggle more than 100 million rows |
23:47.26 | bleeter | several Sun E4500 backplanes later ... regulator: 'See, you were right, Good to know you know what you're on about' |
23:47.34 | bleeter | I ring Sun 'Big insurance claim incoming' |
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23:47.53 | bleeter | fun times, getting paid to blow stuff up :) |
23:48.17 | bleeter | and as it was at the direction of government regulators, I wasn't responsible =)) |
23:48.18 | Adys | oh you're a fbi agent |
23:48.22 | Adys | like my brother ! |
23:48.28 | mxs | bleeter: the question is, how did YOU know it would blow up ? And who did you blame when you did it inadvertently before ? :> |
23:48.49 | bleeter | mxs: i knew, 'coz I read the docs ;) |
23:48.59 | mxs | you can't trust docs ! |
23:49.09 | mxs | they're written by the team-member who can't code ! |
23:49.10 | mxs | err |
23:49.10 | mxs | uhm |
23:49.32 | bleeter | 'multiple failures on the storage device is bad mojo if your system is configured like (how we had our stuff set up)' |
23:49.48 | bleeter | to paraphrase |
23:50.21 | bleeter | the company had contracts with customers to only handle single failures... so i just knew it'd all go pear shaped 'cept for the fun of the smell of burned chips |
23:50.27 | bleeter | wasn't quite expecting that |
23:51.00 | mxs | I still love my first PC. I was 8 or 9 at the time. Bought it in a big chain store. Fun stuff ! Real nice ! Lots to explore ! |
23:51.01 | mxs | Now, suppose youg give an 8-year old a computer |
23:51.01 | mxs | suppose that computer has buttons and switches |
23:51.01 | mxs | suppose one ofthose switches says "115" on the one side and "230" on the other |
23:51.01 | mxs | suppose said 8-year old flips said switch |
23:51.24 | mxs | (and luckily, suppose the seller / chain tech guys had no idea either and replaced the entire computer) |
23:52.22 | X3 | I started my first website when I was 7 |
23:52.26 | mxs | well, that is how I learned the difference between 115 volt and 230 volt electrical grids :> |
23:52.30 | mxs | pre internet, too ! |
23:53.12 | mxs | I took over the administration & buildout of the school computer network in 8th grade |
23:53.23 | mxs | it's fun being a geek with a general key to everything |
23:53.48 | mxs | (which you get after one day, the maintenance guys lock you into the tract the servers are in :>) |
23:54.31 | bleeter | I managed to accidentally break into my high school's file server |
23:54.43 | bleeter | found one teacher had a whole lot of pirated s/w |
23:55.00 | bleeter | told the school principal, I got suspended for my troubles and the teacher got nought |
23:55.37 | mxs | I did a presentation once, on the efficacy of password-based authentication and user expectation. Practical component was a little Pascal program that mimicked the Novell Netware Login-screen and just showed an error message after the guys entered their passwords, jumping to the real login screen |
23:55.58 | mxs | oh yeah, do NOT let people in your school know about problems |
23:56.01 | mxs | it will ONLY bring you trouble. |
23:56.37 | mxs | Spent a year in Texas in 11th grade, accidentally found several gaping security holes (and by accidentally, I do mean accidentally -- typed telnet 10.1.10.1 instead of telnet 10.1.1.10) |
23:56.53 | bleeter | yeah, that was pretty much what I did |
23:57.00 | mxs | got into unprotected main router of school district (and it turns out all the schools' routers were similarly unprotected) |
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23:57.29 | mxs | got the teacher, called the district tech guys, and the verbatim response my teacher got was "Get that boy away from the computers. Never let him in the lab again." |
23:58.14 | Fisker- | I remember at my old school where i was getting some files on the shared network drive |
23:58.21 | Fisker- | I saw a lot of .eml files |
23:58.32 | Fisker- | Figured it was that worm that replicated a lot through those |
23:58.42 | mxs | (I checked later that year, that problem never got fixed; neither the subsequent more insidious problems -- the administration network and the student network shared a hub in common; the administration network contained an unpatched, old hp-ux 9 machine, which hosted all the grades, tardies, personal data, etc. on each of the students. |
23:59.22 | Fisker- | Found out i were right and told it to the sysadmin, he weren't even mad(atleast didn't show it), but then later the principal told me that one more incident like that and i would be out |
23:59.26 | mxs | The year after I was there, they started teaching two Cisco courses, one of them entitled "Network Security". I wonder who the first guy to change their own grades was, and whether it ever got noticed. |