IRC log for #wowwiki on 20081030

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00:15.04pcjhi dutempete :)
00:15.19DuTempetehi pcj ;)
00:16.24g0urrahi DuTempete
00:16.31pcjooooold
00:16.50DuTempetehi g0urra
00:17.02DuTempeteYou're ooooooold, pcj?
00:17.09pcjno
00:17.30DuTempeteyou sure about that?
00:17.37pcjpossibly
00:17.51DuTempetek, just checking ;)
00:17.57pcji mean
00:18.04pcji'm old enough to legally acquire an STD
00:19.05ThraeYou're never too old or too young to aqquire a STD.
00:19.21pcjBut not legally
00:19.41ThraeLegally? Sure.
00:19.56pcjtoo young and you can't give consent
00:20.36ThraeWhat about this chain: 18 (STD) has sex with 16 year old has sex with 14 year old has sex with 13 year old has sex with 12 year old has sex with 11 year old has sex with 10 year old. That's all legal right there, and the STD is passed down the chain.
00:21.19pcjnot necessarily
00:21.29pcjthe STD may not have a 100% rate of spread
00:21.55ThraeWe're talking hypotheticals here anyway, so here it does.
00:22.23ThraeUnless you know a really horny pre-College education complex.
00:23.01pcjwell give me a week or so to see what i can come up with
00:26.38cruciallythat isn't actually legal in a lot of US states
00:27.19pcjdamn, have you tried then crucially
00:27.30cruciallyno
00:27.35pcjlaaaame
00:27.45cruciallyI can't commit any crimes of moral turpitude
00:27.57cruciallyso I can randomly beat you up, but I can plan beating you up
00:29.10Amarandemoral turpentine?
00:29.17Fisker-not legal here Thrae :3
00:30.27Fisker-And i believe that's technically the case in ~every country
00:35.01pcjwell theres always international water
00:38.34cruciallyfrance claims juridiction over it's citizens everywhere
00:38.48cruciallypcj: I want to start caching logged in users pages
00:39.25pcjexplain
00:39.36cruciallyin varnish, we don't have to render on every pageload
00:40.21pcjso what would the expiry be
00:40.45cruciallysame as for anons
00:40.51cruciallybut they would obviously be purged
00:40.54pcjhow long is that
00:40.59cruciallydepends
00:41.03crucially0-86000 seconds
00:41.08pcjwhat about images
00:41.12pcjdid you fix that problem
00:41.18cruciallybut they get purged at once
00:41.32cruciallyimages is currently up to 30 seconds for everyone if your replace an image
00:42.11pcjive noticed several varnish 503 errors would this fix it
00:42.20Fisker-hell marches over pcj
00:42.26cruciallypcj: when did you notice them?
00:42.34pcjpast couple of days
00:42.53pcjsimple page refresh fixed it
00:43.18cruciallyyeah, that is because of me doing development
00:43.25cruciallyi need a better page
00:43.45pcjyou can't develop on a test server?
00:44.14cruciallyI do
00:44.27cruciallybut there is only so much from a load perspective I can test :(
00:44.39pcjalso do you know of anything added in the past day that would cause http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Kirkburn#Firefox_2_error
00:44.52Fisker-i F5'd
00:45.10cruciallyno idea
00:45.43pcjwould ?action=purge still work
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00:45.51pcjwb dutempete
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00:45.57DuTempetethanks
00:46.01pcjnp
00:46.04pcjhi sky
00:46.12cruciallyyes
00:46.15DuTempetewhat up, Sky
00:46.24cruciallyas well as sending a PURGE request
00:46.29Sky2042_afkit's rosie from the jetsons: http://www.comcast.net/data/fan/html/popup.html?v=908321140&pl=469105150.xml&plc=469105150&launchpoint=Cover&cid=fancover&attr=default_headline&config=/config/common/fan/default.xml
00:46.38Sky2042_afkHAI DUTEMPETE
00:46.43DuTempetelol
00:46.58Sky2042_afkhi pcj.
00:47.02Fisker-y so srs?
00:47.04cruciallysuggest a better page for the guru medidation :)
00:47.20Sky2042_afklong time no see!
00:47.30pcjguru meditation?
00:47.42Fisker-amiga!
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00:54.26bleeterFisker-: heh, spot the baby of the # ;)
00:54.39bleeterpcj: :P j/k
00:54.40Fisker-:o?
00:54.51sacarascanyone notice anything new with the sourge invasion today? (thurs)
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00:55.20bleeterputress still isn't spawning in shat on some servers?
00:55.27bleeter(as in, that's 'new', I guess)
00:55.55sacarascthat was a few days ago
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00:56.21Kirochithx cahn srve
00:56.32Kirochiuuuh tyuopoing Fargolail
00:56.35Kirochifail
00:56.41Kirochisry
00:56.57Fisker-i hope orgrimmar blows up and kills everyone in the face
00:57.06Fisker-"OMG BLUE PLX WE DYING"
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00:57.56sacarascwould be better if the Kirin Tor, for no reason other than no one would notice, transport the Exodar somewhere else
00:58.21DuTempeteKirochi... shush. :P
00:58.32DuTempeteIt's for your own good. :P
00:58.33Kirochidut u here wat a surprise !
00:59.01KirochiI didn't now you knes wowiki
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01:00.25Kirochis/knes/knew/
01:04.29pcjwe barely knew her
01:05.52Sky2042_afkDon't scare her away Kirochi!
01:06.11Sky2042_afkIt's a rare siting of the Femalus dutempetitus!
01:06.15Sky2042_afksighting*
01:06.25AmarandeI'm just glad the zombie chaos is over
01:06.30Kirochishe's not gonna go cuz of me
01:06.33AmarandeI've heard there's something new in Azshara, though
01:06.36pcjbrains
01:06.45Amarandewow, I should check it out
01:06.46pcjit's an invasion of brains
01:06.51Amarandefinally, a practical reason to go to azshara
01:06.55pcjyou'll wish the zombies were back to save you
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01:15.34KirochiI'm a lumberhjack and 'im ok
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02:44.27Eraclitozomg scourge in the cathedral
02:44.33Eraclitokilled the 60 elite and got a quest
02:44.58sacarascold
02:45.11sacarascfrom what i've heard, that was in the first scourge invasion
02:48.13Amarandewhich cathedral?
02:48.36sacarascsw
02:48.49sacarascspawns randomly
02:49.26Amarandethere a horde version?
02:51.24sacaraschttp://www.wowwiki.com/Scourge_Invasion#Capital_City_Invasions
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03:47.52gOurraGoodnight
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08:37.24NeCrowhello all
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09:34.33Fuzelwhen i try to patch 2.4.3 to 3.0.1 i get this error: The file "C:\Users\Public\Games\World of Warcraft\Data\enGB\expansion-locale-enGB.MPQ" could not be found. If this problem persists, please contact Blizzard Technical Support. (OpenArchive::Execute)
09:34.33Fuzelanyone know what i should do?
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09:42.51bleeterI'd move the World Of Warcraft folder over to C:\, fire the game up once so it adjusts it's add/remove programs properties, quit the game, then run the repair tool, then try the patch.
09:43.07bleeteroh, and don't forget the mandatory cursing of vista
09:44.32Fuzelye i use Vista, but ill try what u said
09:44.37Desaster_I've been getting ~15fps after the patch, so i deleted my config.wtf file, and it runs much better at abt 25fps. then after a few days, it slows down again to below 20fps everytime. anyone knows whats up with this?
09:47.50bleeterDesaster_: just a guess, but there's some breakage in the 'defaults' video options in live, that are planning to be addressed in 3.0.3. If you're sure you've got your latest video card drivers etc. (if on a PC), I have no other ideas/suggestions apart from wait for 3.0.3. Otherwise, upgrade yer video drivers ;)
09:48.56bleeterif you're on a mac, I really have no idea apart from the current video defaults bug. A question to ask yourself, though. If you wind settings down way low, do you see the framerate drop similarly.
09:49.10Desaster_yeah i'm on a mac, so no drivers for me
09:49.52Desaster_i'm pretty sure it went down with graphics set low as well, i'd have to test it again
09:50.25bleeterok, I'd go with winding the settings right down as far as you're willing to go, and see if you get similar droppage. Apart from that, I'd be waiting for 3.0.3 and smacking the Defaults button before logging it in.
09:51.00Desaster_sounds good, thanks much bleeter :D
09:51.02bleeterI only say that as it might take you and others a week or more to identify the issue. With a change in the video thingy coming on, you might just be wasting time trying to diagnose atm
09:51.15bleeterg'luck to you mate :)
09:51.38Desaster_thanks (: spent quite a few nights on this already. till 3.0.3, then!
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09:54.16Flowyhello
09:54.27Flowyhow to do that pls
09:54.28Flowyfor i=1,25 do
09:54.28Flowyformat("%s%d,"MLootRaid",i):SetText("end");
09:54.28Flowyend
09:55.10Desaster_woah, what is that
09:55.22Flowyi need to call each MLootRaid 1 - 25
09:55.27Flowyhow to write it?
09:55.58Desaster_im sorry i have no idea
09:56.13Flowyit have name MLootRaid1
09:56.18Flowynext MLootRaid2
09:59.53Flowyis there someone pls?
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10:28.55Flowyhow to do that pls
10:28.58Flowyfor i=1,25 do
10:29.02Flowyformat("%s%d,"MLootRaid",i):SetText("end");
10:32.39bleeterFlowy: you might have better luck asking in one of the developer channels, such as #wowuidev
10:32.41amroFlowy: ask in #wowuidev
10:32.49bleeteramro: SNAP!
10:33.04amro=)
10:36.30Fuzelthe patches u install in wow, where does this files go, because there ait any folder in my world of warcraft directory with the name "Updates"!
10:42.09amrothe patch installers or the installed files?
10:43.06Fuzelboth
10:54.43amrothe patch installers are i the base directory, installed patch data is in Data
10:55.48bleeterthe 2.4.(?) to 3.0.2 update (note, update not patch) is in the Updates folder
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12:16.13Fuzelomg.. i have tried to install that damn 2.4.3 - 3.0.1 for like 4 hours and it still wont work
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12:33.14pcjparty grenade is lame
12:35.02syberghostThat's OK, ALAMO card is so awesome everything else can be forgiven.
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13:56.25soufronat the mit
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14:29.22pcjhttp://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24568137-2862,00.html
14:29.47Lukianmonths old :p
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14:30.13pcjhttp://www.nypost.com/seven/10302008/business/frugal_google_cuts_perks_136011.htm
14:31.21syberghostThe Australia thing doesn't surprise me at all.  They took away everybody's guns; further totalitarian measures were inevitable.
14:31.35syberghostAnd predicted.
14:32.22pcjits ok australians are a bunch of former convicts anyway
14:33.01syberghostNot so former, it appears.
14:33.07Lukianlicks pcj :p
14:34.25Lukianthis will either take a) ages to implement or b) they'll realise it will slow http content by 75% :p
14:34.32Lukianand scrap it XD
14:34.38syberghostYou're assuming they will care.
14:35.00syberghostMore likely they'll use terms like "small price to pay to keep the children safe"
14:35.04Lukiansome will, some won't, that's parliament XD
14:35.26Lukianthe christian lobbies will, and probably end up in the minority to the technologists :p
14:35.58LukianThey give us rebates on software filtering for a reason..
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14:38.29pcjhttp://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSTRE49T2RG20081030
14:43.53Lukianhttp://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/communications/soa/ISP-level-content-filtering-won-t-work/0,139023754,339292158,00.htm
14:44.53syberghostOf course not, it doesn't work in China either.
14:44.57syberghostAnd yet, it persists.
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15:00.27Kirochihai2U
15:01.43KirochiMiiis-suuus Landers was a health nut
15:01.51KirochiShe cooked food in a wok
15:02.00KirochiMr. Harris was her boyfriend, and he had a great big-
15:02.08KirochiCock-a-doodle-doodle
15:02.15Kirochithe rooster just won't quit
15:02.22KirochiAnd I don't want my breakfast, because it tastes like-
15:03.39syberghostOk then.
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15:24.42Kirochihttp://www.deezer.com/track/which-mc-was-that-T186376
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15:57.19soufronObama J-6 : grâce au système du early voting, les élections ont déjà commencé - http://www.betapolitique.fr/
15:58.54Kirochisoufron osef, Obama il a même pas de pyjama Chuck Norris
16:00.43syberghostDid you just say Obama does not have Chuck Norris' pajamas?
16:01.02soufronahahahah
16:01.03soufron:-)
16:01.07soufronyou think so ?
16:01.24syberghostMy French is essentially nonexistent.  :)
16:03.58Kirochisyberghost that's actually what I said ye
16:04.14syberghostheh
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16:05.35KirochiYoeth, dude, Sir Ragestorm. Word to thine mutha.
16:05.48RagestormHuh?
16:07.08RagestormYou've just bombarded me with at least three dialects of English that aren't that compatable
16:08.02mxsI'm gonna start talking like that.
16:08.13Charitwog0urra my friend
16:08.47Kirochiis roflhao at Charitwo's running joke
16:08.48syberghostCharitwo: I'm sorry.
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16:09.37g0urraCharitwo my friend
16:09.38gOurraCharitwo my friend
16:10.13Charitwonotices his clone is not in here
16:10.16Charitwotouche g0urra
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16:11.05g0urra>:3
16:11.06gOurraJESUS CHRIST ITS A LION GET IN THE CAR
16:11.21Charitwoblames kirby
16:11.22Eraclitojoins the car
16:12.18KirochiSO DAMN COLd
16:13.50EraclitoAlthough glimpses of snowy terrain can be seen out the windows in each corner of Kel'thuzad's room, it is important to note that his chamber is still within Naxxramas. What you are seeing out those windows is Northrend, through portals from which Scourge emerge during the encounter <- oooold? [[Naxxramas]]
16:13.50DottedEraclito meant: www.wowwiki.com/Naxxramas
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16:39.27Fuzelanyone here using mirage UI?
16:39.44g0urra#wowuidev
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17:05.14KirochiAddybot
17:05.16KirochiAdys
17:05.28Adysya
17:05.42Kirochitoi qui a sûrement clear utgarde keep
17:05.42AdysKirochi: hyjal a reset la nuit meme
17:06.02Adysj'ai jamais clear utgarde non
17:06.03Kirochicay quoi le nom des trash qui font un bouclier à la con qui les immune à tout plz
17:06.05Kirochiah merde
17:06.13Adysfait que dalle comme instances 7x a part dtk
17:06.15Kirochiun truc genre iron helmet
17:06.30Kirochifouque
17:06.37Kirochimerci quand même
17:07.30Kirochij'ai trouvé
17:07.34Kirochidragonflayer ironhelm
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17:18.55pcjhttp://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Campus_Cop_Charged_With_Stealing_Donuts.html
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17:32.29syberghosthttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/29/health/webmd/main4555658.shtml  <- diet myths exploded.  Caffeine isn't bad for you, and high-fructose corn syrup isn't any worse for you than sucrose
17:37.02Amarandesyberghost: I don't think it was ever really said that high fructose corn syrup is really any worse for you than other gluts of simple sugars :)
17:37.10Amarandeit's still simple sugar, though, just like sucrose :P
17:38.04syberghostAmarande: actually, there are some crowds that attribute everything from obesity to diabetes to Alzheimer's to it.
17:38.20syberghostEnough so that CBS felt the need to explode the myth.
17:38.52Amarandesyberghost: these are the same idiots who think that vaccinating your kids causes autism :|
17:39.00syberghostyes
17:39.09syberghostLargely the exact same ones.
17:40.18Amarandethough I suppose in both cases, except for maybe the corn syrup causes Alzheimer's claim, there's enough circumstantial evidence that the uninitiated might be inclined to think so via simple logic
17:40.39Amarandelet's see, if you eat a lot of simple sugar, well, you'll get fat! and obese people tend to get diabetes more often than thinner people
17:41.00Amarandealso, apparently the age at which autism becomes manifest is around the same time that kids get their first rounds of shots
17:41.27AmarandeI can't figure out the idea that simple sugar causes alzheimer's though
17:41.38Amarandealthough there are also some people trying to claim that obesity causes alzheimer's :S
17:42.07ThraeI forget why I'm fat.
17:42.33AmarandeThrae: because you eat more calories than you use :)
17:43.03ThraeNo, that doesn't sound right. President Taft just told me the other day...
17:43.52KirochiSTOP TALKING BOUT SUGAR K
17:43.58KirochiI'm craving for some atm
17:44.30syberghostAmarande: you can't figure it out BECAUSE OF YOUR ALZHEIMER'S
17:44.35syberghostQED
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18:08.11pcjhttp://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/ap/20081030/tbs-earns-cbs-f8250da.html
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18:10.35HelpmeYet again I must ask for your help!
18:10.48HelpmeAdys, are you there?!
18:10.58Adyswhat do you need?
18:11.14HelpmeGrammar!
18:11.23Adysask pcj
18:11.26Helpme"Nous verrons vous disions"
18:11.37Adysah french grammar
18:11.41HelpmeOr "Nous vous verrons disions [...]"?
18:11.50pcjje m'en fous
18:12.06Adysi dont get a thing of what you're trying to say
18:12.11HelpmeWhat I'm going to say: "We're going to tell you about our animals"
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18:12.49AdysNous allons vous parler de (...)
18:13.26HelpmeYes, that looks better.
18:13.30HelpmeThanks :)
18:14.18syberghostDon't make me talk about my yellow pencil again.
18:14.53pcjj'aime bien omelettes du fromages
18:16.18Helpme"Nous allons vous parler de animaux compaigne."?
18:20.08KirochiNous allons vous parler des animaux de compagnie
18:20.18KirochiWe're going to tell you about pets
18:20.48syberghostIl est plus de neuf mille
18:21.25Kirochiwha?
18:21.37KirochiIt's over nine thousand
18:21.38Kirochihaha
18:21.42Kirochino actually not
18:21.55Kirochi"C'est au-dessus de neuf mille"
18:22.53Adysquoi, neuf mille? Ceci ne peut etre vrai
18:25.49Amarandegah
18:25.56HelpmeI wonder why the French haven't simplified their grammar...
18:25.57AdysNO DONT WHINE
18:26.02AmarandeI wish I could remember off the top of my head which simpsons season dvd set goes with which dvd design
18:26.10AmarandeI've got all these loose simpsons dvds here I need to put away :S
18:26.18KirochiHelpme a socialist prime minister has tried once
18:26.33Kirochihe got like demonstrations and the whole country against him
18:27.20HelpmeFrench people don't know what's best for them. Anyway, is lignes pronounces like "lin"?
18:27.30Kirochibut now France's youth is composed for 50% of second generation arabs, blacks and portuguese louts, it would be easier to set up
18:27.32Amarandeheh, wonder what would happen if they tried to regulate English here
18:27.32Helpmepronounced*
18:28.13Kirochino you'd rather say "leeng"
18:28.31HelpmeWith a g?
18:29.16Kirochithe "ng" is, to me, the closest sound an anglophone mouth can utter to the french "gn"
18:29.39Kirochias in the beginning of "new"
18:29.42HelpmeLuckily, my mouth isn't anglophone
18:29.43Kirochi"n-i-u"
18:29.50Kirochiwhere are you from
18:30.14HelpmeJe suis Norvégien.
18:30.30Kirochidu är norsk?
18:30.33Kirochi:O
18:30.56HelpmeJa, det er jeg. Snakker du også norsk?
18:31.23Kirochinej, jag taler svenska
18:32.11Kirochino, my sentence sucks
18:33.11HelpmeFascinerende. À propos det jeg nevnte om språk -- resultatet av en stor reform kan raskt bli at landets litteratur blir utilgjengelig for nye generasjoner. I tillegg kan man jo få språkstrid, slik som vi hadde.
18:33.46Kirochihttp://img.4chan.org/b/src/1225390208954.jpg
18:33.54Kirochi:p
18:33.58g0urraHelpme: swede here.
18:34.42Kirochithere was a danish fellow too
18:34.50Kirochibut he's too retarded to help you in any way
18:35.21HelpmeYes, I know.
18:36.19HelpmeAnyway, I must continue with my presentation - or my French teacher (read witch!) will kill me.
18:36.53KirochiI'm translating a freaking PvE video speech atm
18:37.02Kirochiask adys, he's slacking all day long
18:39.42HelpmeAh, now I see. Verrai means "to see". Haha
18:40.32Kirochi"will see" actually
18:41.26Helpmeor shall. It's passe simple, but I didn't bother to rewrite it.
18:46.16Helpme"Talk about" -- would you use sur or de?
18:46.42Kirochiya
18:46.45Kirochiuh
18:46.49Kirochiparler de
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19:03.14Helpme"Il est né dix-neuf quatre-vingt-huit"
19:03.42HelpmeIs this the right way of writing the number of the year?
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19:33.47Kirochino
19:34.23Kirochiil est né _en_ mille neuf cent quatre-vingt-dix-huit
19:38.21KirochiHelpme
19:38.26Kirochiyou got your answer
19:38.43HelpmeGreat, thanks :)
19:41.16HelpmeOne more question: Can I say "Goethe est un cheval obéissant, mais il a quelques mauvaises-habitudes"?
19:42.32Kirochiwhat
19:42.37Kirochia horse named Goethe
19:42.47HelpmeYes
19:43.02HelpmeThe name of the horse is Goethe.
19:43.11syberghostThat's one pretentious horse.
19:44.13Kirochiokay
19:44.26Kirochiyour sentence is perfect, just take the hyphen off
19:45.04HelpmeYay! :)
19:46.22KirochiMaya
19:46.26Kirochisorry wrong chan
19:48.45Oseand now for some happy news from the Netherlands: about 9 months ago, there was a 50-hour power outage
19:49.09g0urraoooooold
19:49.11Oselogically people didn't have much to do, and it got quite cold in the winter
19:49.20Oseand now, they get a baby boom :D
19:52.03syberghostA power outage for a whole country?
19:52.22Kirochinl aren't quite big
19:52.47HelpmeKirochi, art thou Dutch?
19:53.00Helpmethee perhaps.
19:53.03g0urrahe art douche
19:53.05Kirochinee, Ik ben fraans
19:53.14Kirochig0urra suck me off
19:53.18g0urraok
19:53.34syberghostg0urra: slut
19:53.45g0urrano you syberghost
19:54.00Kirochioh u!
19:54.14syberghostBoomer Sooner!
19:54.29Helpme"He thought I were [...]" ---> "il a pensé je sois"?
19:54.39Kirochi"Il a pensé que j'étais"
19:55.00HelpmeAh, ok :)
19:59.24HelpmeSorry to bother you again: Par exemple, Goethe a mordu moi. Probablement, il a pensé j’êtais une bouchée.
20:03.51Kirochi><'
20:04.08Kirochi"Goethe m'a mordu", stick to the French word order :p
20:04.37Kirochiand what did you mean by "j'étais une bouchée ?"
20:05.23HelpmeThat he thought I were a mouthful of food :(
20:06.00HelpmeOh, that's not even good English.
20:06.09HelpmeI'll have to replace it with something else.
20:07.15Helpmelike quelque chose d'savoureux.
20:07.16Kirochiah
20:07.27Helpmede*
20:07.33Kirochiyeah you wouldn't translate the mouthful
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20:07.54Kirochiyour second sentence would be nicer that way :
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20:08.07Kirochi"Il a probablement pensé que j'étais bon à manger"
20:08.40Kirochi~wwquotes
20:08.41infobothttp://www.teomyr.eu/wowwiki/irc-quotes
20:08.52HelpmeYeah. And perhaps it would be strange to call oneself savoureux? :P
20:10.11HelpmeThen I'll just finish the slide with: Aussi, il est souvent effarouché. :)
20:10.54Kirochiyep, correct sentence
20:13.25HelpmeAnyway, how do you manage without passé simple? I mean, it's hardly spoken, right?
20:13.54Kirochiuh
20:14.11Kirochihardly 30% of the French know about the passé simple
20:14.29Kirochiand a 10% can write it flawlessly
20:15.04syberghostSee, I knew French was hard; even French people can't speak it.
20:15.20HelpmeYeah, but when you want to speak about something which was finished in the past?
20:15.52Kirochigimme an example
20:15.55HelpmeI mean, passé compose --> I have done it. Passé simple ---> I did it.
20:16.20HelpmeThe difference is more obvious in Norwegian I suppose.
20:16.20syberghostAn example of something that was finished in the past?  French relevancy in world events.
20:16.33Kirochiwe use the passé composé for both
20:17.01HelpmeYeah, I know. But that sounds strange to me ;)
20:17.16Kirochisyberghost why don't you stick your dang up your nostril so you choke and shut the fuck up?
20:17.36HelpmeYes, fait tairre!
20:18.02HelpmeI said that to my teacher once, and she wasn't happy. I suppose it's pretty vulgar.
20:18.32Kirochifait taire ?
20:18.38Kirochidoesn't mean much
20:18.39bleeterwhen I worked in France, our company's french translator helped me out with a bunch of simple phrases and stuff
20:18.56Kirochi"tais-toi"
20:19.07bleeterhe also gave me, which I have since forgotten, a torrent of expletives to use when people got shitty with me for having difficulty with the language
20:19.16HelpmeShe insisted that I use calme-vous anyway.
20:19.34Kirochi:p
20:19.45bleeterso there I am in Marseille, at some swanky cafe by the dock, and they try an charge me three times for one cup of coffee
20:19.57HelpmeBleeter: I've learnt that telling someone to go home and cook an egg might do the trick
20:20.09bleeterso I stammer out 'je.. um... deja... erm.. [ayeus'
20:20.15bleeter*payeux
20:20.18Kirochipayé
20:20.21syberghostKirochi: why don't you come make me, cheese-eating surrender monkey.
20:20.24bleeterand I get the same shit back from the staff
20:20.38bleeterso I let fly with the expletives and the look on the staff's faces.. how I wish I had a camera
20:20.56Kirochiyou in France rite now?
20:21.05syberghost"right"
20:21.08bleeternah, this was about 5 years ago
20:21.11Kirochiah k
20:21.25Kirochisyberghost bet I know English better than you
20:21.26bleeterwas working for Francais De Jeux.. well. working for a company contracted to them
20:21.31Kirochiwhat
20:21.35Kirochila Française des Jeux
20:21.39KirochiADYS§
20:21.45Kirochifun time inc
20:21.46bleeteryeah, thems
20:21.59Adyswah
20:22.03HelpmeIs Adys involved?
20:22.10syberghostKirochi: "I bet I know English better than you do." would be a more correct way to state your drivel.
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20:22.20bleeteroO is adys involved with FDJ?
20:22.21AdysI'm the CEO of La Francaise des Jeux
20:22.21Adysyeah
20:22.27syberghostOr, in French, "I surrender, don't hurt me"
20:22.51Kirochidon't try and fuck with me buddy, cause you're the one who's gonna lose
20:23.06syberghostTake your best shot, froggy.
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20:23.32KirochiRight between your eyesockets, turdface
20:23.40HelpmeAdys a MD?
20:23.43Helpmean*
20:23.59HelpmeAdys, when did you become a managing director?
20:24.14Kirochiadys, claviers grecs=pas de c cédille ? :'(
20:24.20HelpmeI thought you were a student. Lyceen methinks.
20:24.43Adysnop Kirochi oO
20:25.04Kirochihaha, adys un lycéed
20:25.06Kirochilycéen
20:25.19Kirochiil m'a fait marrer ce con
20:25.20KirochiXD
20:25.47HelpmeLotto!
20:26.06KirochiA qui l'tour?
20:26.09HelpmeAdys, are you a wealthy man?
20:26.20Kirochi(that's the sentence syberghost's mom says every 20 minutes)
20:26.23Adysyeah i told you Im the fucking CEO of the FDJ
20:26.34HelpmeI don't believe you-
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20:27.34syberghostno, Kirochi, I said your BEST shot.  That can't possibly be it, my 10 year old is wittier.
20:27.50Kirochiyou didn't get it
20:27.51g0urraKirochi is 9 years old
20:28.03syberghostg0urra: point
20:28.05AdysHelpme: well you better believe it because I'm the fucking CEO man !
20:28.08Kirochi"A qui le tour ?" is the Française des Jeux's slogan
20:28.22Kirochiit means "Who's next?"
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20:29.14Kirochiit also applies to a whore who's just emptied an asshole's balls and asks for the following one who's going to defile syberghost's honor
20:29.14HelpmeSyberghost, please teach me how to properly use shall/will. I'm quite eager to learn from a maestro like you :)
20:29.47syberghostKirochi: so, your mom then.
20:30.28Kirochithank god the douche is behind is screen
20:31.06KirochiMeussieu ladmine lol il é maichan
20:31.13syberghostHelpme: they're effectively synonyms in modern usage.
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20:31.45KirochiThou shalt not speak about what thou hast no clue of
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20:32.56Helpmesyberghost: I'm interested in the historic usage.
20:33.25syberghostArchaically, shall indicated a duty, will an intention.  But nobody uses them that way anymore except in RFCs.
20:33.40HelpmeAnd, do you say "it is I" or do you say "it is me"?
20:34.06syberghostHelpme: nobody says either unless they're trying to sound pretentious.  :)
20:34.23syberghostBut, "it is I" is more correct.
20:34.28Adysit is i who did your mom yesterday
20:34.41Kirochio/
20:34.44syberghostTo tell, turn it around and substitute "am".  "I am it" versus "me am it".
20:34.58HelpmeAnother question: A nurse has to take care of ??? patients.
20:35.10HelpmeWould you use his, her, or their?
20:35.11Adysof hot patients
20:35.16Kirochifucking patients
20:35.18syberghostgrammatically, "his"
20:35.30syberghostSince that's the neutral term for a person in English.
20:35.34Adysits would work wouldnt it?
20:35.45syberghostAdys: no, people are presumed to have gender.
20:35.47HelpmeThe feminists won't agree with you...
20:35.57Adysfeminists are never hot
20:36.03syberghostHelpme: they can't even agree with each other
20:36.04Adys[22:34:43] <@Adys> feminists are never hot
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20:36.08Adyswhat did i just do =[
20:36.14KirochiXD
20:36.18syberghostAdys: he was here for the hot feminists
20:36.27Kirochimaybe Kalroth loves feminists
20:36.29Adysi think he thought he was hot
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20:36.59g0urra<Adys> feminists are never hot
20:37.05Adysstfu g0urra
20:37.08g0urrano u
20:37.38Kirochig0urra my french
20:37.45g0urraKirochi my balls
20:38.02Adysyou want me to help you find them?
20:38.20g0urrano thx, your mom found them
20:38.26g0urrain her mouth
20:38.32Osehttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sandbox/WotLK moar to add?
20:38.39syberghostg0urra: excellent timing on the followup.
20:38.45KirochiAdys give up, no one's undertaken such a task in millenia
20:38.56Adysthats my grandmother, and its not her mouth its her false teeth
20:38.58g0urraoooold
20:39.00syberghostJust the right amount of pause.
20:39.04Adysyes shes old
20:39.11g0urrayour face is old
20:41.46HelpmeCan I write  "chaque décembre"?
20:42.15Adysyeah you can but im not sure whether you should pluralize that
20:42.38Kirochichaque mois de décembre
20:42.42Kirochirather
20:42.47Adysthats ugly
20:42.55Kirochichaque année en décembre ?
20:43.11Adysactually dunno
20:43.42KirochiI win then
20:45.12HelpmeGoethe habite à Stall Soma, une écurie près notre école. Il y a en grande écurie avec à peu près cent chevaux. Chaque année en décembre, ils organisent un concours de Noël pour les jeunes.
20:45.18KirochiPARLE
20:46.13HelpmeI have to use décembre - my teacher has demanded that we atleast name one month.
20:46.46syberghostMust be her time of the month.
20:46.56Kirochithe middle sentence is awful
20:47.10KirochiC'est une grande écurie d'environ cent chevaux.
20:47.21Kirochithe rest is perfect
20:48.01HelpmeI know I sound like a retard (you should have heard my pronunciation) ;)
20:48.13Adysdont worry
20:48.18Adysits so bad we can hear it from here
20:48.57HelpmeoO
20:50.01HelpmeAnd Adys. You know the other presentation, the one you thought was silly and pointless? My teacher loved it ;)
20:50.15Adysbecause teachers only like pointless shit
20:50.31HelpmeWell, that might be the case.
20:50.35Adyshalf my family is full of teachers, or work in schools / colleges / universities
20:51.12HelpmeQuestion: Is it true that most French teachers/professors are condescending?
20:51.26Adysit's not
20:51.28Adysthey all are.
20:51.39Kirochi+1
20:51.48g0urrawhy so FLT Kirochi
20:52.00HelpmeFor instance, I've heard that you must say vous to your teacher. We don't have to do that in Norway.
20:52.13Kirochihttp://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/442961 <= meet'n'fuck your French teacher
20:52.20AdysHelpme: that's not exclusive to teachers
20:52.34Adysit's a whole load of shit that doesn't really exist in english
20:53.11HelpmeYes, I know. Technically speaking, we still have the same things in Norwegian, but people stopped using it after 1968.
20:53.28Adysblame the French language
20:53.35Adysbut don't worry
20:53.42Kirochiblame Mai 68
20:53.44Adysit involves politeness
20:53.58syberghost"...school teachers, taking them by and large, are probably the most ignorant and stupid class of men in the whole group of menial workers." - H. L. Mencken
20:54.06Adysand since this country is full of dickheads they'll stop using this soon
20:54.14g0urrawhy so FLT Kirochi >:(
20:55.01KirochiI am what I am
20:55.02Osehva sier De Helpme min gode mann? Tiltaler De ikke Deres Lærer på høflig form?
20:55.05Kirochiand what I am
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20:55.49HelpmeNei, det gjør jeg ikke. Jeg er dus med min lærer, kjære Dem.
20:56.20HelpmeDog, jeg benytter noen ganger De/Dem mot telefonselgere.
20:57.03HelpmeThat's true -- vous (or De/Dem) is a great tool against telemarketers who think they're your best friend.
20:57.17Kirochiayé Adys, il a dit un truc en français syberghost
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20:57.35Oseanyone want to add anything to http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sandbox/WotLK ?
20:57.43Adysyeah ose
20:57.44AdysIT SUCKS
20:57.48Oseowkay
20:57.52Adyswell
20:57.55Adysthe url at elast
20:57.56Adysdidnt click
20:58.44Kirochimais quel enfoiré
20:58.46Osehttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Super-Mega-fancy_URL_just_for_you_Adys now then?
20:59.08Adysstill sucks
20:59.16Adysi think its the User:Ose part
21:00.20Osehelpme: guess what my lock is called
21:00.40HelpmeI have no idea.
21:00.46Adysoselock
21:01.00OseDasslock of course!
21:02.43KirochiCapslock ?
21:03.02Osedo, dasslock
21:03.12Oses/do/no/
21:03.28HelpmeFunny... not really.
21:03.51HelpmeAnyway, how can I say that Goethe is good at dressage?
21:04.09Helpme(The horse that is)
21:04.51Osenot the poet?
21:05.49Kirochiwhat
21:06.06Kirochihow can a horse teach someone
21:06.27Ose~wiki Goethe (horse)
21:06.34Ose:/
21:06.42HelpmeNoo :( he's good at doing those dressage things.
21:07.21HelpmeLike walking sideways n' stuff.
21:07.27Osedressur?
21:07.38HelpmeYes.
21:08.12Helpmehttp://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dressage_(équitation)
21:09.00Kirochiyou'd say he's good at dressage exercises
21:09.25Osewhat's horse in french anyway?
21:11.06HelpmeYeah
21:11.11HelpmeUn cheval
21:14.16Osele cheval Goethe est un bon dressageur
21:14.23OseI should do french courses
21:15.08HelpmeDressageur? Are you sure?
21:15.44HelpmeThere are no pictures of "dressageurs" on Google...
21:15.54KirochiWHAT
21:16.09Kirochidressageur
21:16.24Kirochiis fucking laughing his eyes off
21:16.52Kirochino no Helpme
21:16.57HelpmeYou are a "crimer", Ose! :P
21:16.59Kirochidressageur doesn't exist
21:17.06HelpmeHey, it wasn't my idea!
21:17.10Kirochiif anything it would be trainer
21:17.16Kirochiand that's dresseur
21:17.24HelpmeYes, that was what I thought.
21:17.54Oseyou do relise I don't know anything about the french language at all and just put together a few words that seemed fitting (in my crazy mind that is)
21:17.56Kirochi"Goethe est bon aux exercices de dressage"
21:17.57bleeterTu as déjà une petite tête, pourquoi veux-tu du riz?
21:18.08Kirochibleeter XD
21:18.21HelpmeThanks :)
21:19.00HelpmeOne last thing and then I'm done: Je l'ai acheté et disais au revoir.
21:19.14HelpmeI bought it and said goodbye.
21:19.30Kirochiwho did you say goodbye to
21:19.45HelpmeAnne, la marchande.
21:20.25HelpmeSo I'm not allowed to just say goodbye -- I actually have to say it to somebody? :P
21:20.26Kirochiok
21:20.44KirochiJe lui ai défoncé son petit cul de paysanne puis je lui ai craché la purée sur la gueule
21:21.08Kirochinp
21:21.10Kirochino
21:21.13Kirochiwrong sentence
21:21.18bleeterHelpme: considering 'goodbye' is a concatenation of 'god be with you', we do actually already say it 'to someone' in english ;)
21:21.28HelpmeDoes the second sentence involve abusive language and sex?
21:21.35bleeterits' just hidden in the history of the word
21:21.39Adysno Helpme
21:21.40KirochiJe l'ai acheté, puis j'ai dit au revoir à Anne.
21:21.40Adysonly sex
21:22.11Adyspuis je lui ai dit au revoir
21:22.27Kirochibah moi j'aurais pas dit au revoir, un jet de foutre ça suffit
21:22.37Adysbleeter: well in french theres no "goodbye"
21:22.57Adysmore of a "see you soon"
21:23.02HelpmeWell, you have à dieux, but that's something else
21:23.10Adysadieu
21:23.24bleeter'until next time' is what I always thought of it's translation
21:23.27Adyswhich means mostly "Ill never see you again so see you in heaven"
21:23.31bleetersee you soon wfm tho :)
21:23.42Adysbleeter: "Till we meet again" more like
21:23.43HelpmeMy grandmother always says àdieu to me.
21:23.54Helpmeadieu*
21:23.56Adysyeah but its lexically wrong
21:24.19Kirochibah dans le sud ils disent adieu pour dire au revoir ou même bonjour parfois
21:24.19bleeteroh I remember the stunner translation thing from my work in France
21:24.30bleeterthe guy who was send from australia to train them on our software
21:24.32bleeterhis surname
21:24.33bleeterConnard
21:24.37Adysj'ai vecu dans le sud connard
21:24.38bleeterthat cause mass lols
21:24.51Adysbleeter: that was totally not intended
21:24.59Kirochiton sud c'est le mauvais
21:25.07Adysavignon et marseille
21:25.10Kirochiy'a un bon sud, au sud du tien
21:25.36Kirochiah je pensais que tu parlais du limousin.²
21:25.43bleeterAdys: what is it with avignon? i was expecting to see lots of people dancing around. was sadly disappointed.
21:25.52Kirochibleeter LOL
21:26.02Kirochithe bridge's broken
21:26.04Adyssarkozy relocated all the hot chicks in Paris
21:26.06Kirochiall the dancers have fallen
21:26.08Adysno one wants to dance now
21:27.00bleeterfwiw, you fine french folks, next time a seppo abuses you for being 'surrender monkies', feel free to take back your status of liberty ;)
21:27.09bleeter*statuer
21:27.14bleeter-r bah
21:27.15Adysstatue
21:27.20bleeterthx
21:27.53bleeteroh, do I need to explain seppo?
21:28.05Kirochithx no re
21:28.11HelpmeDo you like Sarcozy?
21:28.19Adysi dont know him
21:28.25AdysSarkozy I've heard of
21:28.29AdysSarcozy, who's that
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21:28.42bleeteraussie rhyming slang for an american. yank rhymes with tank. tank, septic tank. septic tank = full of shit. thus, americans are seppos ;)
21:28.46HelpmeSomeone cozy...
21:29.01bleeterof course, americans don't tend to
21:29.06HelpmeBut, do you like Sarkozy?
21:29.09AdysSnarkozy could fit him better then
21:29.11bleeter'get' aussie humour, and get real upset if you explain it
21:29.36Kirochioook
21:29.44Kirochiyou're australian then
21:29.46Kirochiwhere from
21:29.53Adysaustralia
21:29.55AdysAHAHAHAHAHAH
21:29.56bleetermy mummy and daddy :P
21:30.19bleeterwho were both residents of Tasmania when I was born ;)
21:30.32KirochiEntre l'Australia et la South America, dans l'océan South Pacific, l'atoll de Pom Pom Galli
21:30.48Adysdtc
21:30.50bleeteranyways, on the subject of parents.. gtg take the old man back to the cancer ward. catchyas :)
21:30.50Amarandenow here's one we have about aussies on the other hand
21:30.54Kirochipas loin Adys
21:31.09Adysdtc alors?
21:31.12Kirochicya bleeblee
21:31.13AmarandeIf you take a whole bunch of criminals, ditch them on an island somewhere, leave and come back 100 years later, what's the first thing you'll hear?
21:31.24Adys(l'un c'est dans ton cul, l'autre dans tes couilles, IM SO FUNI)
21:31.32Kirochioué
21:31.37Amarande"G'day mate"
21:31.56Adysthat joke is seriously old am
21:31.58Kirochila private joke en français c'est un sport qui se pratique à deux et sur terrain wowwikisé exclusivement
21:32.13Adyswai.
21:33.34HelpmeWherebear!
21:34.42HelpmeIsn't that a brilliant word?
21:35.24g0urraAmarande: they won't say a thing, they're dead by then
21:41.54Kirochichucks French words at bleeter
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22:21.53Kirochicuzitsdapick
22:25.38Oseomg
22:25.48Oseamarande R copycat: http://bash.org/?262417
22:26.03Kirochicopy-lol-cat ?
22:26.41AmarandeOse: yeah, that's where I remember it from :)
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22:31.58Amarandehmm, that made me look at recent bash quotes
22:32.08Amarandeand specifically this line
22:32.09AmarandeShaZam: except for my cell phone contract expired and i havent gotten a new one yet
22:32.28Amarande*do* you have to do anything special to renew your contract when the two years are up, or do you just keep getting billed month to month till you cancel, like a landline?
22:48.28KirochiAnnhylde the caller
22:48.38KirochiHow am I supposed to pronounce THAT?!
22:48.51g0urraAnnhylde the caller
22:48.52Osehttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6584489475&sid=1 epic fail
22:49.04Kirochishould I ask Microsoft sam ?
22:49.39Oseif it was based og properly norse it would be Annhild
22:49.48Oseof*
22:51.10GnarfozKirochi: American much?
22:51.39KirochiYeah, I live in Paris
22:51.42KirochiTX
22:51.44Osehttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6584659260&sid=1epic fail is epic
22:52.10Oseehm, drop the epic part of the url
22:53.59bleeterah yes, that old (and factually incorrect) attempt at humour
22:54.09bleetergrats Amarande :P
22:59.06Osehttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6584659422&sid=1 g0urra stop spamming the forums
23:00.02g0urraOse stop being norwegian
23:00.10g0urrayou're a shame for your country
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23:17.07Oseno u
23:17.24Ose(late, I know)
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23:29.02Kirochig0urra
23:29.05Kirochikjott fi faen
23:29.09g0urrawhat?
23:35.41bleeterMata omae wa chiisa na atama ga aru-koto dakara, naze o-meshi hoshii na no?
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23:37.14Kirochihai, mochiron...
23:38.05g0urrafucking brilliant firefox
23:38.25g0urrasomehow it decides to open .php as files instead of in the browser
23:38.37g0urraand it's opening automatically
23:38.52selckinthats usually the server sending the wrong mime type
23:38.52g0urraso I get shitloads of tabs
23:38.54bleeteron all sites, or just a speicific site?
23:39.00g0urrawowwiki
23:39.02bleeteryeah, was about to say the server mime type
23:39.07g0urrakicks crucially
23:39.10bleeteroO
23:39.20g0urracrucially, fix it
23:39.51crucially?
23:40.03g0urracrucially, firefox likes to open index.php as a file
23:40.10g0urra<selckin> thats usually the server sending the wrong mime type
23:40.19bleeterg0urra: didn't here, I got a redirect. odd.
23:40.40cruciallygive me full url you are trying to open
23:41.00KirochiOutta the doorway the bullets rip
23:41.04KirochiTo the sound of the beat
23:41.34cruciallyhmm
23:41.36cruciallyI can't replicate
23:41.59g0urracrucially, I get it every time I try to "Save page" or "Show preview"
23:42.01cruciallyg0urra: give me full URL you get this from
23:42.06crucially?
23:42.10cruciallyoh
23:42.12cruciallywhen you do edits
23:42.16g0urraand "Show changes" too
23:42.19g0urrayes.
23:42.32cruciallyonly ff?
23:42.44Kirochiswedes shouldn't be allowed to have computers at home, they just fuck them up all the time
23:44.02g0urrawell, my laptop's Fx works fine
23:44.09g0urraand safari
23:44.22cruciallyg0urra: use firebug and give me the header
23:44.28cruciallyor tell me an article I can edit without people getting upset
23:44.57amroMain page
23:45.04cruciallyuhu
23:45.09Kirochicrucially : [[User:Ose]]
23:45.34bleeterg0urra: if your lappy is fine, and other browsers, it's highly like that it's not a server problem
23:45.45g0urraBREAK BREAK.
23:46.02bleeterjust wondering, do you have noscript for FF installed. it does some really weird stuff sometimes with false positives on XSS attacks.
23:46.52g0urrawell after restarting Fx it seem to work fine
23:46.58cruciallyahem
23:47.01cruciallyhits g0urra
23:47.25g0urraok
23:47.41cruciallyfrom catherine
23:47.43crucially"Unwanted downloading can happen if "Use external editor by default" gets turned on in Prefs (in the "Editing") tab"
23:48.27g0urranope, I don't have that
23:48.41Kirochihaha
23:48.58KirochiI gots my joker picture as public avatar on facebook
23:49.10Kirochiand now every time I add a friend I say on a sidenote
23:49.13Kirochi"Why hello beautiful! How would you like I put a smile on your face?"

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