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| 00:14.43 | Adys | keyboards are fucking disgusting |
| 00:15.00 | ecstasia | oh hai adys |
| 00:15.09 | ecstasia | ./agrees |
| 00:15.10 | Adys | i finished cleaning up mine |
| 00:15.16 | Adys | I didnt know I had that much hair in my life |
| 00:15.19 | ecstasia | would be nice to have a touchpad one |
| 00:15.29 | ecstasia | just a clean flat surface |
| 00:15.58 | ecstasia | or like a digital one that you could set to a good size |
| 00:15.59 | Adys | i tried one of those |
| 00:16.02 | Adys | annoying to type on |
| 00:16.09 | ecstasia | like each key can be made a certain size |
| 00:16.29 | ecstasia | i know my dad has a terrible time typing cause he's got big fingers from years of working with his hands |
| 00:16.56 | ecstasia | you'd get used to it though |
| 00:17.45 | Adys | whatever doesnt have the space to contain all this crap |
| 00:17.52 | Adys | I dont think I've said "ewwwww" that many times in my life, even in front of the most horrible japanese porn |
| 00:18.15 | g0urra | goodnight |
| 00:18.19 | ecstasia | stay away from horrible japanese porn |
| 00:18.21 | ecstasia | nite nite g0urra |
| 00:18.29 | Adys | i think horrible japanese porn highlights g0urra |
| 00:18.40 | ecstasia | i dunno, i'm quite fond of him these days |
| 00:18.43 | ecstasia | he gave me beta key |
| 00:19.01 | Adys | theres wow players without a beta key still? |
| 00:19.04 | Adys | I got 12 |
| 00:19.12 | ecstasia | aaagh |
| 00:19.17 | ecstasia | i hates you! |
| 00:20.09 | Adys | well i gave most of them |
| 00:20.11 | Adys | i only use two |
| 00:20.18 | ecstasia | ah okay |
| 00:20.30 | ecstasia | if you were hoarding them i'd be a wee bit annoyed |
| 00:20.41 | Adys | oh |
| 00:20.46 | Adys | Im sure theres a couple in the spambox too |
| 00:21.23 | ecstasia | gief! |
| 00:21.42 | ecstasia | i wish i had lots to give to friends :( |
| 00:21.50 | ecstasia | i have 3 people in particular in mind |
| 00:22.32 | Adys | http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=13187#Comment-41247 |
| 00:22.34 | Adys | I don't really feel comfortable posting the edited file as I don't know how likely anyone would be to get banned using it (and as this is really the first time I've attempted editing a program in this manner) but I was able to use a disassembler to find the source of the error in the Wow.exe file. By disabling the entire subroutine which contained it I was able to get past the error (though the minimap has been disabled entirely). |
| 00:22.45 | Adys | Some people need less free time. |
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| 01:34.12 | JamesJr | Is Ironforge Airport still accessable? I think it got removed with this patch. |
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| 01:37.30 | ecstasia | love how he stuck around long enough for an answer |
| 01:37.34 | pcj | doh |
| 01:37.36 | pcj | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?achievement=1311 |
| 01:37.36 | pcj | vs |
| 01:37.39 | pcj | http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=1311 |
| 01:37.41 | pcj | pwnt |
| 01:39.27 | ecstasia | try mentioning that int he wowhead channel |
| 01:39.27 | ecstasia | instead of the wowwiki on |
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| 01:47.51 | pcj | oh |
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| 02:51.00 | mxs | lovely how a user corrects an op := |
| 02:51.01 | mxs | P |
| 02:51.37 | mxs | I just got a nice support email on the wirebrain site. Somebody is asking whether it's possible to go back to patch 2.4.3 after installing 3.0.2 since "the server I play on is not on patch 3.0.2 yet." |
| 02:51.55 | pcj | wow blizzard failed that server then |
| 02:52.41 | ecstasia | no, they're on a private server |
| 02:52.52 | *** kick/#wowwiki [ecstasia!n=pcjjenks@pdpc/supporter/active/pcj] by pcj (WW:IRC) |
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| 02:52.57 | ecstasia | wtf? |
| 02:53.29 | pcj | "Absolutely no discussion of how to exploit, emulated servers and other matters that break the WoW EULA or ToS, unless directly relating to WoWWiki articles. We will not give you links, and you will likely be kicked from the channel. " |
| 02:53.59 | ecstasia | ... so why the hell did you kick me? |
| 02:54.12 | ecstasia | if a server isn't on the new patch... it ain't official |
| 02:54.20 | pcj | no discussion means none |
| 02:54.29 | ecstasia | waits for you to kick mxs |
| 02:54.48 | pcj | /pat |
| 02:55.02 | ecstasia | since hes the one that violated the rules |
| 02:55.13 | pcj | no |
| 02:55.25 | ecstasia | all i did was correct you. |
| 02:55.25 | pcj | he was just talking about an e-mail |
| 02:55.39 | pcj | oh |
| 02:55.41 | pcj | well then |
| 02:55.42 | pcj | "An admin's word is final. " |
| 02:55.45 | pcj | is the pertinent rule |
| 02:56.22 | ecstasia | enjoy la-la land |
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| 05:46.54 | Baggins | wow after reroling like 3-4 times I finally got my hobbit the "Undying" no death title. |
| 05:49.19 | Nechckn | How long do you have to survive for that one, Baggins? |
| 05:49.41 | Baggins | level 20 |
| 05:49.46 | Nechckn | iirc, I was sort of close... then got dead so I missed |
| 05:50.06 | Nechckn | Ah, very cool |
| 05:50.15 | Nechckn | talk about dedication =) |
| 05:50.17 | Baggins | there are like 2 really bad places but you kinda have to do some of the quests in them. The Old Forest, and the Barrow Downs |
| 05:50.20 | Nechckn | how long did it take? |
| 05:50.42 | Baggins | played says 2 days 7 hours 5 minutes give or take |
| 05:51.52 | Baggins | I almost died like 3 times, by activing the wrong type of quest (enemy spawn fellowshp) and one trying to get some item in old woods that was surroudned yb spiders only to have more spiders drop down on webs :p |
| 05:52.14 | Baggins | it was a quest I had forgotten about from a previous try I think |
| 05:52.39 | Baggins | glad there is no more after this LOL |
| 05:52.52 | Baggins | I want to actually play with other people and do fellowship quests |
| 05:53.56 | Nechckn | I've not actively played in a while, but that's why I stopped... maybe 5 months ago |
| 05:54.10 | Nechckn | I couldn't find a decent group to do the bigger quests |
| 05:54.17 | Nechckn | not at the lower levels |
| 05:54.54 | Baggins | ahh |
| 05:55.24 | Baggins | I have lifetime membership so I can quite or play whever |
| 05:55.28 | Baggins | *whenever |
| 05:55.33 | Baggins | I feel ike it |
| 05:55.35 | Nechckn | ah.. that works |
| 05:55.42 | Baggins | expansion looks great |
| 05:55.47 | Nechckn | oh yeah, it does |
| 05:55.52 | Nechckn | pretty cool additions |
| 05:56.05 | Baggins | ya |
| 05:56.20 | Baggins | I like the ideas of leveling legendary items |
| 05:56.34 | Baggins | create your own self named weapons |
| 05:56.58 | Baggins | I'm sure if it turns out to work well WoW will take the idea, like they did with the achievements |
| 05:57.15 | Nechckn | Yeah... that is like a carbon copy |
| 05:57.22 | Baggins | ya |
| 05:57.39 | Baggins | I was surprised they didn't do the underground zoning for Azjol-nerub like they said they were ogng to do |
| 05:57.55 | Baggins | and moria has like 6 huge underground zones heh |
| 05:58.33 | Baggins | generally speaking zones in LOTRO are like BArrens in size or better |
| 05:58.35 | Nechckn | I will have to give it some time once the xpack hits, that's for sure |
| 05:59.22 | Nechckn | I really wish they'd open the interface for more addon-type things is all. |
| 05:59.56 | Nechckn | I realize that adding an entire mod subsystem isn't really possible this "late" but it would make me happier. |
| 06:00.02 | Baggins | you should think about taking the preorder deal |
| 06:00.10 | Baggins | if you really think about going back into it |
| 06:00.13 | Nechckn | The skinning is ok.. but it just doesn't go far enough. |
| 06:00.18 | Baggins | they reopened the 199 liftime |
| 06:00.18 | Nechckn | Oh yeah... what's the deal? |
| 06:00.23 | Nechckn | Ahhh |
| 06:00.40 | Baggins | its the same deal I took advatnage of |
| 06:00.44 | Nechckn | I may do that, I think I'm on the 6 month plan atm |
| 06:00.59 | Baggins | its only like 40 bucks over a years subscrip |
| 06:01.04 | Nechckn | were I smart, I would have after the beta =) |
| 06:01.15 | Baggins | heh ya |
| 06:01.17 | Baggins | like I did :) |
| 06:01.27 | Nechckn | hangs his head |
| 06:01.29 | Baggins | shame I didn't hav etime to play it much last year though |
| 06:01.49 | Baggins | or I'd have a level 50 already :p |
| 06:01.56 | Nechckn | heheh right on |
| 06:02.25 | Baggins | so ya I got the online preload version and the collector's edition preorder you can stack the freebies |
| 06:02.34 | Baggins | sorta expensive but eh lol |
| 06:02.45 | Nechckn | Oh cool |
| 06:02.47 | Baggins | I've saved so much on not having to pay monthly heh |
| 06:02.54 | Nechckn | I like all of the goodies |
| 06:03.09 | Baggins | and I preordred the collector's from gamestop, you get 2 extra freebires from them |
| 06:03.24 | Baggins | some helmet, and I think maybe an additional title, or maybe its a weapon |
| 06:03.34 | Nechckn | Okay, you convinced me! I'll do it. |
| 06:03.43 | Nechckn | Ah.. so that is only via Gamestop? |
| 06:03.53 | Nechckn | for the extra, exras? |
| 06:03.57 | Baggins | the 2 extras ya |
| 06:04.01 | Nechckn | gotcha |
| 06:04.27 | Baggins | you'll have 6 of those ingame token things if you go collector's and online preload |
| 06:04.41 | Baggins | 3 from collector's and 3 from preload |
| 06:04.43 | Nechckn | oh man |
| 06:04.46 | Nechckn | that is cool |
| 06:04.49 | Baggins | apparently you can get a 7th token if you buy the regular preorder |
| 06:05.05 | Baggins | but I haven't decided if I want to blow anothe 40 bucks for another item LOL |
| 06:05.30 | Baggins | at least with the two I know I'm getting the most out of my money. |
| 06:05.33 | Nechckn | Ha... yeah, that may be a bit above and beyond for 1 more |
| 06:05.37 | Baggins | ya |
| 06:05.57 | Baggins | collectors has a few exclusives, and so does online preload |
| 06:06.07 | Baggins | so that was my mainr eason for going with those |
| 06:06.25 | Baggins | but you don't get anything but a token out of the complete preorder :p |
| 06:06.39 | Nechckn | eww.. that's no fun |
| 06:06.46 | Baggins | not counting the items that overlap between the three |
| 06:06.57 | Nechckn | it's nice and all, but the other idea is really sweet |
| 06:07.06 | Baggins | like Moria expedition title I think comes with all three preorder options |
| 06:07.29 | Baggins | I think they tossed in a free month of gameplay with complete edition |
| 06:07.37 | Baggins | but that's kinda pointless with lifetime LOL |
| 06:09.03 | Nechckn | Yeah, just a bit |
| 06:09.16 | Baggins | be nice if you could give it away to someone else I suppose |
| 06:09.28 | Baggins | maybe like a free month + 14 day demo |
| 06:09.54 | Baggins | so ya those tokens, they unlock 1 of seven free moria exclusive items |
| 06:09.59 | Nechckn | that would be a good way to get folks even more interested |
| 06:10.11 | Baggins | so its possible to get up to 7 of the items on one character |
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| 06:12.00 | Baggins | so a funny glitch happened to me |
| 06:12.09 | Baggins | I activated the preload code |
| 06:12.27 | Baggins | and the game glitched and gave me one of the alternate preorder cloaks form the original game release |
| 06:12.36 | Baggins | liek the one from walmart I think |
| 06:12.39 | Nechckn | really? |
| 06:12.42 | Baggins | ya |
| 06:12.44 | Nechckn | that is frikin' weird |
| 06:12.46 | Baggins | I had the amazon style cloak |
| 06:12.56 | Baggins | well not complaining LOL |
| 06:13.07 | Nechckn | right- still bizarre though |
| 06:13.35 | Baggins | ya |
| 06:13.46 | Baggins | wishes it glitched and gave me the third style preorder cloak LOL |
| 06:13.58 | Baggins | I heard some people actually payed for the game from all three places, tog et all the cloaks |
| 06:14.47 | Baggins | it only spawned the cloak on my main character though which is probably even stranger |
| 06:14.57 | Nechckn | Um.. that counts in that "over and above" the return imnsho |
| 06:15.08 | Baggins | ya |
| 06:15.21 | Baggins | I wouldn't do that for cosmetic items :p |
| 06:15.28 | Nechckn | exactly |
| 06:15.41 | Baggins | not unless I had more money than I could possible use |
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| 06:16.09 | Nechckn | Ha- be sure to let me know if you reach that point! |
| 06:16.16 | Baggins | LOL |
| 06:16.21 | Nechckn | I'd be happy to assist with the excess |
| 06:16.24 | Baggins | LOL |
| 06:17.00 | Nechckn | oh.. one thing- when do you need to get this done for the pre-order and such |
| 06:17.16 | Baggins | well if they had shown the preorders before hand I might have chosen the specific cape Iw anted |
| 06:17.27 | Baggins | but I actually like the one I have |
| 06:17.38 | Baggins | so not complaining |
| 06:17.47 | Baggins | its the blue one with the criscrossing celtic styel design |
| 06:17.56 | Baggins | with the jagged edging ont he bottom |
| 06:18.20 | Nechckn | at least it's one that you like |
| 06:19.27 | Baggins | the one glitched into my character, ist he short one, orange, and has birds on it |
| 06:19.46 | Baggins | cloak of the peace keeper |
| 06:20.05 | Baggins | I like the design, but I prefer longer cloaks |
| 06:20.39 | Nechckn | Yeah- I always like the longer ones |
| 06:20.47 | Nechckn | and that's in any of the games |
| 06:20.55 | Baggins | I also seem tor ecall that there was a free title too with preorder, pointing out you were a "Foudner" |
| 06:20.59 | Nechckn | unless it has some truly amazing design/color whateveer |
| 06:21.01 | Baggins | but apparently it was removed from the game |
| 06:21.22 | Nechckn | I screwed myself out of the Founder one |
| 06:21.27 | Baggins | because it overlapped the guild founder title |
| 06:21.38 | Baggins | you didn't preorder? |
| 06:21.56 | Nechckn | forgot my acct stuff from beta- then when I actually got the game I entered my "usual" name and such |
| 06:22.04 | Baggins | in anycase it doesn't exist in the game anymore, so no point inc omplaining heh |
| 06:22.10 | Nechckn | I should have followed up, but it wasn't that big of a deal |
| 06:22.21 | Nechckn | Oh really? they took it completely out? |
| 06:22.41 | Baggins | it was supposed to appear on any character you created in your account |
| 06:22.42 | Baggins | it doesn't |
| 06:22.50 | Baggins | it shared the same slot sa the guild founder title now |
| 06:23.17 | Baggins | Moria title is working as intended though |
| 06:23.33 | Baggins | also I seem to recall it was glitchy |
| 06:23.39 | Baggins | so if you joined a guild |
| 06:23.42 | Baggins | you lost the title |
| 06:23.54 | Baggins | found a guild you lost the title :p |
| 06:24.03 | Nechckn | That makes sense.. suppose the two would be confusing |
| 06:24.16 | Nechckn | whether you were the head man of the guild or a game founder, that is |
| 06:24.18 | Baggins | but apparenlty the slot for the title overlapped with guild member too |
| 06:24.27 | Baggins | ya |
| 06:24.52 | Baggins | but file name was exactly the same for guild founder |
| 06:25.07 | Baggins | they fixed it later on |
| 06:25.14 | Baggins | so that you could have guild founder and guild member at the same time |
| 06:25.36 | Baggins | don't konw why they didn't fix the founders for those that had put int he code |
| 06:25.46 | Baggins | Game founder or whatever |
| 06:26.16 | Nechckn | yeah... because that is one of those more "neat" titles, imnsho |
| 06:26.23 | Nechckn | compared to something anyone can get |
| 06:26.54 | Baggins | ya |
| 06:28.35 | Baggins | Moria Expedition title though is pretty cool |
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| 06:29.29 | Baggins | http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=647421 |
| 06:29.37 | Baggins | I think that seeker of Khazad-dum might be a title |
| 06:29.39 | Baggins | but its unclear |
| 06:29.41 | Nechckn | indeed, that has a cool ring to it |
| 06:30.32 | Baggins | anycase moria expeditiont title is a "event title" |
| 06:30.39 | Baggins | the lore in game says; |
| 06:30.57 | Taldarin | . |
| 06:31.27 | Baggins | The great halls of moria lay waiting in darkness. Rumours abound that the gate has been thrown open, and you yearn to explore its depths. |
| 06:32.08 | Baggins | I really like the appearance of the Cloak of Sunset |
| 06:32.12 | Baggins | the preorder cloak |
| 06:32.32 | Baggins | its the symbol from the gate of the mines of moria, of the two trees. |
| 06:32.55 | Baggins | I think which was also appears as artwork in the book |
| 06:33.01 | Baggins | in Fellowship of the ring |
| 06:33.07 | Baggins | or variation of the cover artwork |
| 06:33.10 | Baggins | I can't remember exactly |
| 06:33.41 | Nechckn | hmm... I'm not sure |
| 06:34.40 | Baggins | http://daphne.palomar.edu/christine/projects/tolkien/Gates-of-Moria1.jpg |
| 06:34.41 | Baggins | that one |
| 06:34.57 | Baggins | on a dark blue background |
| 06:35.31 | Nechckn | That is awesome- and what color is the line drawing? |
| 06:36.31 | Baggins | silver white |
| 06:36.59 | Nechckn | So very cool |
| 06:37.14 | Baggins | ya |
| 06:37.38 | Baggins | I like the ingame cosmetic system |
| 06:37.46 | Nechckn | I am always impressed with the lore tie ins... it seems they are very "respectful" at least |
| 06:37.47 | Baggins | so I can use that design even if I get a better cape |
| 06:38.11 | Baggins | I'd say lotro is extremelly respectful to the lore |
| 06:38.19 | Baggins | its not exactly to scale and misses a few locations |
| 06:38.21 | Baggins | but otherwise |
| 06:38.21 | Nechckn | I don't follow what exactly the folks who are die-hards say, but as a casual reader and now player- it seems very well done |
| 06:38.26 | Baggins | its fairly accurate |
| 06:38.53 | Baggins | it invented thigns like dourhands |
| 06:39.02 | Baggins | but they work out pretty well |
| 06:39.12 | Nechckn | well, for an MMO you have to add some things, just to make it work |
| 06:39.14 | Baggins | I would have went with "petty-dwarves" instead |
| 06:39.23 | Baggins | but I guess they don't have rights to silimarilian |
| 06:39.57 | Baggins | but ya petty-dwarves were the closest to evilish dwarves in the tolkien lore |
| 06:40.21 | Baggins | granted there were only like 2-3 at the time of Silmirillion ast he race was almost gone |
| 06:40.31 | Baggins | but hey Skorgrimw as brought back to life ;) |
| 06:44.15 | Nechckn | a little resurection goes a long way |
| 06:44.21 | Baggins | heh |
| 06:44.47 | Baggins | but ya anything that's from the books and described in detail in the books, is as close as you can get pretty much |
| 06:45.02 | Baggins | its just missing a few places in the shire, like the town where the sherrifs are from |
| 06:45.17 | Baggins | but that town might exist post fellowship in anycase |
| 06:45.23 | Baggins | its not mentioned until then I think |
| 06:45.29 | Baggins | I mean until last book |
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| 06:47.42 | rhoudy | hello everyone |
| 06:47.54 | rhoudy | i have a question , any one can answer please ? |
| 06:48.39 | Nechckn | Maybe... what is the ? |
| 06:48.47 | rhoudy | on world of warcraft |
| 06:48.53 | rhoudy | i want to restart playing |
| 06:49.09 | rhoudy | if there is a new server coming up on the new extension |
| 06:49.10 | rhoudy | but |
| 06:49.13 | rhoudy | my question is |
| 06:49.26 | Nechckn | ok.. now is a good time, it's busy , that's for sure. |
| 06:49.33 | rhoudy | does any one can pay a char moove to the new server |
| 06:50.15 | Nechckn | Not following you... you are looking to transfer servers? |
| 06:50.27 | rhoudy | no |
| 06:50.31 | rhoudy | i want to start over |
| 06:50.35 | Nechckn | or are you wondering if you can play the current version with the version of WoW you have installed |
| 06:50.39 | rhoudy | but i dont want anyone to transfer |
| 06:51.04 | rhoudy | hmm another way to ask my question |
| 06:51.16 | rhoudy | on new servers , does it have lvl 70's ? |
| 06:51.41 | Nechckn | If they transfer |
| 06:51.45 | rhoudy | lvl 70 is a meaning of people who paid a character transfer |
| 06:51.49 | rhoudy | ok so we can |
| 06:51.53 | rhoudy | on new servers |
| 06:51.57 | rhoudy | ? |
| 06:52.20 | Nechckn | If I remember right... there used to be a waiting period with the brand new servers |
| 06:52.27 | Nechckn | I don't think there is any longer |
| 06:52.42 | rhoudy | it sucks .. |
| 06:53.03 | rhoudy | alots of lvl 1 starting over and some stupid people who pay to have their lvl 70 on the new server |
| 06:53.03 | Nechckn | The easiest thing to do would be to try it in the character transfer on worldofwarcraft.com |
| 06:53.17 | rhoudy | i tought the transfer was not working on new servers |
| 06:53.33 | Nechckn | I'm pretty sure that is how it used to be |
| 06:53.54 | Nechckn | but as far as I know, they removed the restriction... not 100% sure though |
| 06:53.59 | rhoudy | not cool |
| 06:54.09 | Nechckn | I think you should only have "beginners" too |
| 06:54.18 | Nechckn | but... that's up to them, I guess |
| 06:54.26 | rhoudy | up to who ? |
| 06:54.33 | Nechckn | Blizzard |
| 06:55.04 | rhoudy | its up to blizard if the server contain some transfered char or not ? |
| 06:55.21 | Nechckn | well, they make the rules, so yes |
| 06:55.56 | rhoudy | i hope they cant tranfer .. |
| 06:55.57 | Nechckn | Hold on one second... let me see if I can find the current policy |
| 06:56.05 | rhoudy | everyone start over |
| 06:57.29 | Nechckn | http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=20558&rhtml=true?rhtml=y see if you can access that link |
| 06:58.22 | Nechckn | According to that, there is 180 days of "lockout" so you have a few months of all new folks |
| 06:58.50 | rhoudy | ok |
| 06:58.52 | rhoudy | nice |
| 06:59.03 | Baggins | so I wonder if I can reach rivendell at level 20 heh |
| 06:59.05 | rhoudy | i love it |
| 06:59.13 | rhoudy | loollll |
| 07:00.08 | rhoudy | thanks alots i love you |
| 07:00.14 | Nechckn | Hehehe np |
| 07:00.19 | rhoudy | laterz man |
| 07:00.34 | Nechckn | Ah... so nice to have some love |
| 07:00.52 | Nechckn | rather than addon config questions =) |
| 07:01.14 | Nechckn | As for Rivendell if you make it, you are the super man |
| 07:01.49 | Nechckn | Do you have a house and all, Baggins |
| 07:08.01 | Baggins | no house yet |
| 07:08.11 | Baggins | can't figure the point just yet |
| 07:08.17 | Baggins | not until I'm making money heh |
| 07:08.51 | Nechckn | Just wondering.... |
| 07:09.07 | Nechckn | I don't have the resources for one, yet but I loved my house back in FFXI |
| 07:09.21 | Baggins | heh |
| 07:09.28 | Baggins | I just hope there are enough houses in the game for me to get a house |
| 07:10.01 | Baggins | they have a dozen or so zones, and each zone has 40 houses or so of three different classes |
| 07:10.11 | Baggins | cheap house, medium house, and mansion |
| 07:11.07 | Baggins | of course it would be nice to own a house in all four regions LOL |
| 07:11.15 | Nechckn | there you go |
| 07:11.39 | Nechckn | but you'd need some really deep pockets for that |
| 07:11.46 | Baggins | I love the appearance of the dwarf township |
| 07:11.47 | Baggins | ya |
| 07:12.04 | Baggins | how does it work exactly? rental at first? |
| 07:12.08 | Nechckn | The cool thing in FFXI was that you entered your house/room via a portal in all of the cities |
| 07:12.24 | Nechckn | Baggins afaik it's like buying and then you pay upkeep |
| 07:12.40 | Baggins | which? |
| 07:12.46 | Baggins | *which is |
| 07:12.46 | Nechckn | if you don't pay the upkeep they toss you out but put all of your household goods in the bank |
| 07:13.06 | Nechckn | not sure of the fees... |
| 07:13.10 | Baggins | that's kinda stupid |
| 07:13.38 | Baggins | I don't want to have a mortgaged house LOL |
| 07:13.44 | Nechckn | Well.. I think they took the idea from SWG, where folks had houses and stuff that they had neglected for ages |
| 07:14.03 | Baggins | well I'm glade its not likw SWG where people could build towns anywhere :p |
| 07:14.10 | Nechckn | this way, they know the people with a specific house is active |
| 07:14.15 | Baggins | ahh |
| 07:14.16 | Nechckn | lol... Yeah |
| 07:14.38 | Nechckn | I didn't do SWG... just know that it got crazy after a while |
| 07:14.52 | Baggins | ya |
| 07:15.00 | Nechckn | Based on what folks told me, I didn't miss much =) |
| 07:15.01 | Baggins | I hated the house designs too |
| 07:15.06 | Baggins | they wer elike blocks :p |
| 07:15.16 | Baggins | I didn't play it a friend did |
| 07:15.17 | Nechckn | eventhough I love the whole StarWars thing |
| 07:15.26 | Nechckn | eww... that's no fun |
| 07:15.31 | Baggins | I liked the whole star wars thing :p |
| 07:15.37 | Baggins | now I'm tired of it |
| 07:15.49 | Nechckn | The houses in LOTR are perfect- at least for looks |
| 07:15.52 | Baggins | it was too much of a money sink LOL |
| 07:15.57 | Nechckn | it's cool to have the different styles too |
| 07:15.58 | Baggins | one thing I hate about mmo monthly fees |
| 07:16.10 | Nechckn | Yeah, I hear you on that |
| 07:16.14 | Baggins | ya lotro houses look like real houses |
| 07:16.34 | Baggins | I wish they'd remove the junk blocking most of the bagend house |
| 07:16.43 | Nechckn | lol |
| 07:16.46 | Baggins | I want to see his cellers heh |
| 07:16.58 | Baggins | you know the 14 or so cellers mentioned in The Hobbit |
| 07:17.05 | Nechckn | Oh right |
| 07:17.20 | Baggins | I haven't counted what you can see on the map, but its definitely alot of rooms |
| 07:17.46 | Baggins | but a shame most of them are blocked up with piles of boxes |
| 07:17.51 | Nechckn | Yeah, I remember trying to walk through with the stuff in the way... it surely looks big |
| 07:17.54 | Baggins | well that is the hallway is blocked off |
| 07:18.08 | Nechckn | would be a neat, small addition |
| 07:18.09 | Baggins | maybe it will be used later on for later quests |
| 07:18.18 | Nechckn | if they can come up with some clever thing |
| 07:18.21 | Baggins | ya |
| 07:18.35 | Baggins | well the fact the hosue is instanced off, they could "phase it" |
| 07:18.57 | Nechckn | Yeah, true |
| 07:19.08 | Baggins | I love the phase system in LOTRO |
| 07:19.21 | Baggins | too bad its not used nearly enough though |
| 07:19.24 | Nechckn | indeed, it's a good implementation |
| 07:19.54 | Baggins | I'm thinking though when they get to end of the Lord of the Rings and bring ont eh fourth age, that you'll get ot see a phased version of the shire |
| 07:19.58 | Nechckn | it's like a mix between the other ones... I like the GuildWars one to a small point... but it gets old being the only one(s) in an entire area |
| 07:20.00 | Baggins | where half the hill is mined |
| 07:20.46 | Baggins | plus the game world is on a larger scale than WoW so there is room on the western map to add areas in between Ered'luin and the shire map |
| 07:22.37 | Nechckn | Hmm...true |
| 07:22.47 | Nechckn | do you think they'll have a LOTRO2 or just keep adding? |
| 07:22.51 | Baggins | you ever look past the instance gates? between major regions? |
| 07:23.12 | Baggins | no point in making LOTRO2, this game is certainly designed to be logn run |
| 07:23.26 | Nechckn | right, that's what I was thinking |
| 07:23.46 | Baggins | they have a 9 year deal with tolkien estate for this game |
| 07:23.50 | Baggins | rumor has it they are working on ap requel though |
| 07:23.54 | Baggins | for consoles |
| 07:23.57 | Baggins | based on hobbit era |
| 07:24.00 | Nechckn | No way |
| 07:24.01 | Baggins | single player rpg |
| 07:24.07 | Nechckn | oh sweet! |
| 07:24.22 | Baggins | you know this game was originally going to be fourth age right? when sierra first designed it |
| 07:24.27 | Nechckn | same company, right? |
| 07:24.30 | Baggins | yep |
| 07:24.35 | Nechckn | very good then! |
| 07:25.25 | Baggins | I'm not upset that they chose to set it during |
| 07:25.29 | Baggins | 3rd age |
| 07:25.40 | Baggins | when turbine took over |
| 07:26.07 | Baggins | they really did alot of work when they overhauled the graphics and stuff. Its much better then what sierra was going to put out |
| 07:26.42 | Nechckn | well, the graphics really are what set it apart, too |
| 07:26.46 | Nechckn | that was a smart move |
| 07:26.47 | Baggins | origial graphics if you can find them were more "artbook" style though, this version is more a combination of the artwork style and realistic |
| 07:27.04 | Nechckn | sort of like the Conana MMO |
| 07:27.19 | Nechckn | they both have that more "true to life" look to them |
| 07:27.22 | Baggins | I haven't looked at that one, not much interest in conan |
| 07:27.29 | Nechckn | and that's smart... since WoW is so stylized |
| 07:27.34 | Baggins | ya |
| 07:27.44 | Nechckn | I'm a beta whore... I'll admit that |
| 07:27.46 | Baggins | but it fits the detail tolkien put into the books |
| 07:27.47 | Baggins | in his descriptions |
| 07:27.57 | Nechckn | Oh yeah... it surely does |
| 07:28.14 | Baggins | I've thought about playing pirates of the carribean a bit since you don't actually have to pay for it... You only unlock features if you do :p |
| 07:28.27 | Nechckn | I did that too |
| 07:28.29 | Nechckn | heheheh |
| 07:28.35 | Nechckn | I loved the ship battles |
| 07:28.46 | Nechckn | it's really cool- I could have done that for ages |
| 07:29.01 | Baggins | it looks so epic, and I like pirates heh... but to play so many games at ocne of these types is crazy LOL |
| 07:29.09 | Nechckn | You can either be the captain and sort of control all the guns or you can have a "crew" who man each of the guns |
| 07:29.26 | Baggins | that was the idea they suggested early on for LOTRO |
| 07:29.27 | Baggins | erm |
| 07:29.28 | Baggins | wow |
| 07:29.39 | Baggins | back before wow was released |
| 07:29.42 | Nechckn | Yeah.. it is, I agree... that's why I rarely ever max-level my characters in anything |
| 07:29.46 | Baggins | and they were brainstorming ideas |
| 07:29.58 | Nechckn | Oh really? |
| 07:30.11 | Baggins | ya as I remember, but those forums are long gone |
| 07:30.33 | Baggins | if it happens it will probably only happen in south seas expansion |
| 07:30.46 | Baggins | but it was one of those ideas they were brainstorming for early siege weapons ideas |
| 07:30.58 | Baggins | back when they claimed we'd be getting player housing too :p |
| 07:31.37 | Baggins | but ya if wasn't for lifetime I'd probably have ignored lotro despite how much I want to be in middle earth heh |
| 07:31.53 | Baggins | cause I couldn't pay for wow and lotro monthly :p |
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| 07:33.58 | Baggins | almost to rivendell yay |
| 07:34.03 | Baggins | the benifits of a burglar |
| 07:34.57 | Baggins | I've heard rumors that they are going to raise the character creation creation per server at least two |
| 07:35.11 | Baggins | however, it would be nice if they gave enough to have one of every class on a single server |
| 07:36.00 | Baggins | love the soundtrack in trollshaws... definitely need to find out how to rip the music |
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| 07:38.17 | Baggins | hmm didn't expect ot see elite trolls on the roads |
| 07:40.00 | Baggins | wow this place is gorgeous |
| 07:40.08 | Baggins | ford of bruinen |
| 07:45.13 | Baggins | ok this could be challenging I need to get by at least 2 bears that are blocking the road up to the high moor :p |
| 07:54.27 | Baggins | music here is beuatiful |
| 07:57.12 | Baggins | almost there, yay hope I can find bilbo heh |
| 08:03.38 | Baggins | yay I found elrond heh |
| 08:03.53 | Baggins | I think bilbo is in a room I can't enter until after I complete chapter 10 though |
| 08:05.23 | Nechckn | Hehehe figures.. the bastards |
| 08:05.48 | Baggins | ya :p |
| 08:06.34 | Baggins | well I think I'll go look into misty mountains, and then head up to eregion gate |
| 08:06.39 | Baggins | to see what's blocking it |
| 08:06.49 | Baggins | as that area will be opened up in expansion |
| 08:08.52 | Nechckn | hmm.. I'll have to make a burglar |
| 08:08.59 | Baggins | heh |
| 08:09.01 | Nechckn | I like sneaking around more so now |
| 08:09.15 | Baggins | I chose it for several reasons, its classic lord of the rigns class |
| 08:09.25 | Baggins | Bilbo, frodo etc |
| 08:09.32 | Baggins | secondly because you can explore |
| 08:09.58 | Baggins | its classed as the most difficult class to learn in the game according to its information page though |
| 08:10.15 | Nechckn | Hmm.. really? |
| 08:10.20 | Baggins | it as a wide and I mean wide range of abilities |
| 08:10.39 | Baggins | you can design it to fit your needs really |
| 08:10.42 | Nechckn | well, that's good though- I usually like the "hybrid" types |
| 08:10.50 | Nechckn | so that sounds pretty cool |
| 08:11.01 | Nechckn | My guy is a minstrel |
| 08:11.06 | Baggins | well its more rogue, but it has alot more than rogue |
| 08:11.13 | Baggins | its hard to explain |
| 08:11.16 | Nechckn | oh right |
| 08:11.19 | Baggins | tricks are different |
| 08:11.26 | Nechckn | those confused me |
| 08:11.28 | Baggins | and it has a self heal trick |
| 08:11.31 | Nechckn | when I read about them |
| 08:11.35 | Nechckn | ohhhhh? |
| 08:11.41 | Nechckn | that is pretty darn smooth, then |
| 08:11.46 | Baggins | "mischievaous grin |
| 08:11.52 | Baggins | basically you hit it with at rick |
| 08:11.52 | Nechckn | how long until you learn that? |
| 08:11.55 | Baggins | then use mischious grin |
| 08:12.06 | Nechckn | what level, that is |
| 08:12.07 | Baggins | pretty early actually |
| 08:12.17 | Nechckn | Oh... then I'd like it even more |
| 08:12.22 | Baggins | it hits you with about 120 xp, and then heal over time |
| 08:12.29 | Baggins | erm 120 hp |
| 08:12.35 | Baggins | its very handy |
| 08:12.40 | Nechckn | indeed |
| 08:12.46 | Baggins | it has a medium length cool down though |
| 08:12.55 | Baggins | so only good everly 30 seconds or so |
| 08:13.06 | Baggins | and it doesn't always work since it is at rick |
| 08:13.11 | Nechckn | ah... well, they can't really make it like a perma-self-heal, so that's ok |
| 08:13.14 | Baggins | you have to make sure your trick is set properly |
| 08:13.19 | Baggins | ya |
| 08:13.31 | Baggins | touch and go is another one of my favorites |
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| 08:13.40 | Baggins | basically you go into super evade mode |
| 08:13.46 | Baggins | great if you have to escape |
| 08:13.56 | Baggins | and it doesn't require trick |
| 08:14.04 | Nechckn | sort of like vanish in WoW then, |
| 08:14.13 | Nechckn | which is ever so darn helpful |
| 08:14.22 | Nechckn | I just started a rogue not long ago... |
| 08:14.26 | Nechckn | and that is amazing |
| 08:14.28 | Baggins | well vanish makes you go into sneaking |
| 08:14.30 | Baggins | ? |
| 08:14.34 | Nechckn | right |
| 08:14.38 | Baggins | its different |
| 08:14.47 | Nechckn | ohhhh |
| 08:14.48 | Baggins | this only makes your agility jump up |
| 08:14.49 | Nechckn | I gotcha |
| 08:14.52 | Nechckn | ok, ok |
| 08:14.59 | Baggins | so its not 100 fullproof |
| 08:15.01 | Baggins | but its helpful |
| 08:15.01 | Nechckn | sorry, wasn't reading exactly |
| 08:15.07 | Baggins | hopefuly there is somethign like vanish |
| 08:15.22 | Baggins | i'd have liked somethinglike vanish early ON LOL |
| 08:15.38 | Nechckn | well, especially to get your title |
| 08:15.42 | Baggins | course there is alot of variosu ways to stun slow addle yoru opponent |
| 08:15.45 | Nechckn | that would be amazingly helpful |
| 08:15.50 | Baggins | ya |
| 08:16.09 | Baggins | glad I don't have tow orry about thos now :p |
| 08:16.27 | Baggins | well unless I care to put it on other characters LOL |
| 08:16.46 | Baggins | I find profesisons are more fun in lotro, less of a chore |
| 08:17.04 | Baggins | and fishign is much better |
| 08:17.07 | Nechckn | I dig how you can just order some mats and just wait |
| 08:17.10 | Baggins | you don't have to worry about chasign the bober |
| 08:17.16 | Nechckn | I've not played since fishing went in |
| 08:17.26 | Baggins | the way you level in profession is more than just leveling |
| 08:17.32 | Baggins | its liek achievement system |
| 08:17.40 | Baggins | you get exp for leveling it |
| 08:17.53 | Baggins | and then you level something you leveled arleady to get better at it |
| 08:18.01 | Baggins | and making thigns have a chance to 'crit" |
| 08:18.02 | Nechckn | professions are a sticky issue... I'd hate designing them |
| 08:18.09 | Baggins | as in you'll get a special advanced version of the item |
| 08:18.09 | Nechckn | especially to make everyone happy |
| 08:18.12 | Baggins | higher grade |
| 08:18.30 | Nechckn | Yeah.. I've had a few of those hit |
| 08:18.40 | Nechckn | and I kept those =) |
| 08:18.40 | Baggins | so your yellow grade amethyst necllace could be a purplse grade |
| 08:18.46 | Baggins | precious amethest |
| 08:18.48 | Baggins | necklace |
| 08:19.00 | Baggins | plus the class quests are pretty fun |
| 08:19.05 | Baggins | isntance affairs |
| 08:19.21 | Baggins | profession quests I mean |
| 08:19.32 | Baggins | like class quests |
| 08:19.42 | Nechckn | I don't think I've done any profession quests |
| 08:20.02 | Baggins | I messed around in one in beta as I recall or at least read about it |
| 08:20.06 | Nechckn | well... maybe.. geez, it has been a while |
| 08:20.30 | Baggins | I void event instances on this character since iyou can't escape them |
| 08:20.39 | Baggins | so dieing would be bad |
| 08:20.42 | Baggins | now I can do them :) |
| 08:20.57 | Nechckn | Ha, yeah... since you are all immortal now =) |
| 08:21.03 | Baggins | heh |
| 08:21.25 | Nechckn | Well, it's really late here now... only 2 hours after I should have been in bed. geezz... |
| 08:21.28 | Baggins | dieing in them won't be an issue now gladly :p |
| 08:21.34 | Baggins | lol |
| 08:21.48 | Nechckn | I best be getting on, I'll catch you around though |
| 08:22.08 | Nechckn | I may hit you up for some input when I get back into the game |
| 08:22.17 | Baggins | cool |
| 08:22.19 | Baggins | I'm on silverlode |
| 08:22.28 | Baggins | if you deside to start a new character |
| 08:42.22 | Baggins | ahh cool just found arwen |
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| 13:42.28 | Fisker- | btw Adys |
| 13:42.32 | Fisker- | it's pretty lame |
| 13:42.39 | Adys | like your mutter |
| 13:42.45 | Fisker- | apparently the proto drakes are 310% speed |
| 13:42.58 | Fisker- | should do that with the albino drake ;( |
| 13:43.55 | Adys | anyone dualboxing once in a while? |
| 13:44.01 | g0urra | <- |
| 13:44.28 | g0urra | why |
| 13:44.44 | Adys | is it normal once in a while an instance of wow lags like crazy? |
| 13:45.01 | Adys | after many gxrestarts at specific times it seems to fix itself |
| 13:45.04 | g0urra | not what I've noticed |
| 13:45.16 | Fisker- | When pulling lots of mobs right? |
| 13:45.19 | Fisker- | Happens here as well |
| 13:45.47 | Adys | no |
| 13:45.49 | Adys | when starting the game |
| 13:46.01 | Adys | the "pull lots of mobs" thing is an addon problem |
| 13:46.03 | Adys | (recount) |
| 13:46.18 | Fisker- | (I don't use damage meters) |
| 13:46.27 | Adys | similar addons then |
| 13:46.31 | Adys | one that checks on every mob |
| 13:46.41 | Adys | an unit frame addon could create that problem |
| 13:47.19 | Fisker- | Then why would it only happen after a long while? |
| 13:47.26 | Adys | other problem then |
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| 15:04.28 | Adys | it is ose |
| 15:04.33 | Adys | much greater memory usage |
| 15:04.55 | Adys | much greater breaking of standards |
| 15:04.56 | Adys | etc |
| 15:09.57 | winkiller | lol |
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| 15:24.43 | Huufarted | I have a question about bots, folks. I just replaced a list of info with the same information but in a table. Is there a way to make a bot look at it and give it the standard format without handling all of the rows manually? |
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| 17:15.13 | LucidFox | How do I tag quests that have been removed in the patch? |
| 17:15.54 | g0urra | {{Removedfromgame|patch=3.0.2}} |
| 17:15.55 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Removedfromgame|patch=3.0.2 |
| 17:16.22 | LucidFox | okay, thanls |
| 17:16.52 | LucidFox | Just finished the Missing Diplomat continuation: the last two steps "Warn Bolvar!" and "Return to Jaina" have been removed, now Jaina just offers an explanation |
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| 17:37.11 | LucidFox | Yay! They actually added /facepalm as an emote |
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| 17:40.51 | MicHaeL | They moved the spellbook seller in the magic quarter of the undercity |
| 17:40.51 | MicHaeL | where can I buy upgrades for my voidwalker? |
| 17:42.32 | g0urra | You don't |
| 17:43.06 | Amarande | warlock pets automatically get their upgrades when you level, now |
| 17:43.22 | Amarande | didn't you read the patch notes? |
| 17:43.50 | g0urra | NOBODY DOES |
| 17:43.54 | g0urra | it's incredible |
| 17:45.27 | MicHaeL | lol, sorry |
| 17:45.33 | MicHaeL | thanks for the info |
| 17:46.44 | winkiller | g0urra: it's your fault we got a queue now... couldn't you have stayed on whatever? :P |
| 17:47.42 | g0urra | nah, I like logging on to every char possible on my account |
| 17:47.51 | g0urra | on both of them |
| 17:49.08 | winkiller | this is so weird |
| 17:49.18 | winkiller | we didn't have queues since.. pre-TBC |
| 17:49.26 | winkiller | and so many went for Al'Akir lately |
| 17:49.31 | winkiller | and this weekend we have a queue |
| 17:49.41 | Amarande | people are probably switching a lot between 70's to be able to do HH more |
| 17:49.57 | winkiller | we didn't have anything during Brewfest |
| 17:50.06 | Amarande | that's because coren direbrew sucked |
| 17:50.19 | Amarande | somewhat difficult for a seasonal boss, and boring |
| 17:50.20 | g0urra | I think people goes back now because of all the changes |
| 17:50.24 | Amarande | and never dropped what you needed |
| 17:50.27 | winkiller | fuck people |
| 17:50.36 | g0urra | i.e. beta/PTR -> live |
| 17:50.37 | winkiller | I kept this server alive for a year :P |
| 17:50.37 | Amarande | never got a mount or a remote ... only useful thing I got was the smoking pipe |
| 17:51.12 | Adys | winkiller: you play on which realm? |
| 17:51.37 | Adys | Amarande: 309 kills, 1 remote, 6 kodos (all lost), 2 rams (all lost) |
| 17:52.13 | g0urra | Adys: Aggramar |
| 17:52.17 | g0urra | (both me and winkiller) |
| 17:52.27 | winkiller | 12min queue now |
| 17:52.32 | *** kick/#wowwiki [g0urra!n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys] by Adys (fuck private servers) |
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| 17:52.38 | winkiller | first day of queues since a year ago or more |
| 17:52.39 | g0urra | lolwat? |
| 17:52.40 | winkiller | more 1.5 |
| 17:52.43 | Adys | oh sorry |
| 17:52.49 | g0urra | dickhead |
| 17:53.03 | Adys | aggramar is such an unknown server that no one cares about and that doesnt matter |
| 17:53.09 | Adys | I THOUGHT IT WAS A PRIVATE SERV |
| 17:53.18 | winkiller | kicks Adys in the shins |
| 17:53.34 | winkiller | http://members.shaw.ca/lovedonnaz/05%20Science%20Fiction%20(Punk%20Version).mp3 |
| 17:53.35 | g0urra | YES BECAUSE I POST ALL MY CHARACTERS I HAVE ON A PRIV SERVER ON MY WOWWIKI USER PAGE |
| 17:53.37 | winkiller | this rocks |
| 17:53.47 | winkiller | (remake) |
| 17:53.47 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Gourra |
| 17:54.07 | winkiller | 4 70s. you mad person |
| 17:54.29 | g0urra | I'd be working on 5 and 6 |
| 17:54.37 | g0urra | if it wasn't for that I have to spec the shitfucks |
| 17:54.40 | winkiller | slow :S |
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| 18:01.41 | Amarande | so apparently if you want to find a good horde raiding guild you have to transfer to a pvp server |
| 18:01.41 | Amarande | ugh |
| 18:01.44 | Amarande | I hate pvp servers |
| 18:02.03 | Amarande | not that I've ever played on one, because being persistently griefed is not my cup of tea |
| 18:02.21 | Amarande | if I feel like being killed over and over and over by the same thing I will try to fight Hitoshura in Digital Devil Saga :| |
| 18:04.35 | Huufarted | is there a list of table styles I can look through? |
| 18:04.58 | Huufarted | btw. PvP servers rock. :) Quel'Danis is one huge BG with no real goal. |
| 18:05.18 | Huufarted | and you make THEM die over and over and over. |
| 18:07.26 | Amarande | you don't get any honor for that though |
| 18:07.28 | Amarande | so what's the point? |
| 18:07.30 | Amarande | that's just griefing |
| 18:07.52 | Amarande | I really don't get the point of griefing for no reward |
| 18:08.05 | Amarande | ok, the first time you do it you can get Make Love, not Warcraft and get ten achievement points |
| 18:08.06 | Amarande | but that's it :| |
| 18:13.14 | Huufarted | you do get honor |
| 18:13.23 | Huufarted | there is a reward. You feel bigger. :) |
| 18:13.53 | Huufarted | If you have a small penis, like I do, it's a way to compensate by beating up on people who are probably 12 year olds that just got a new 'puter' for their birthday. |
| 18:15.32 | Adys | everyone his thing |
| 18:15.34 | Amarande | wait, you get honor for people who get killed by guards? |
| 18:15.40 | Adys | sigh Amarande |
| 18:16.11 | Adys | I like the idea of just having everyone flagged pvp in a zone and doing something without a goal nor an actual ingame reward |
| 18:16.20 | Adys | eg tarren mill / ss prebc |
| 18:16.23 | Adys | prebg even |
| 18:16.44 | Adys | but if I want to do something else I like being able to do something else |
| 18:16.45 | Amarande | Adys: it sounds a fun enough thing, but I'd rather it be somewhere that's not a major questing area :) |
| 18:16.53 | Adys | oh quit it |
| 18:17.19 | Amarande | Adys: do you mainly play Alliance or Horde? |
| 18:17.23 | Adys | alliance |
| 18:17.28 | Adys | having it in a major questing area is pretty much the entire point |
| 18:17.30 | Amarande | yeah, for alliance it's not as bad |
| 18:17.32 | Adys | having people join it |
| 18:17.37 | Adys | dude I play on pv |
| 18:17.38 | Adys | pve |
| 18:17.40 | Amarande | seeing as alliance don't normally hit hillsbrad till the mid-late 30s |
| 18:18.17 | Huufarted | Alliance hit hillsbrad in the early 20s |
| 18:18.18 | Amarande | but horde tend to get there in the late 20s, where else are they gonna go? ashenvale on a pvp is going to be just as big of a gank city as hillsbrad |
| 18:18.28 | Adys | not really Huufarted |
| 18:18.33 | Huufarted | leave late 20s, come back early 30s for Alterac |
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| 18:18.42 | Amarande | Huufarted: not really |
| 18:18.49 | Adys | you can |
| 18:18.53 | Amarande | alliance tend to stick to pretty much alliance-only areas till 30-35 or so |
| 18:18.56 | Amarande | except ashenvale |
| 18:19.13 | Adys | but you have to go through arathi |
| 18:19.19 | Adys | and very few people do that |
| 18:19.23 | Amarande | and yeah, you have to go through arathi to hit southshore |
| 18:19.23 | Adys | or did, when it mattered |
| 18:19.30 | Amarande | which means, you don't go there till mid-late 30s |
| 18:19.38 | Adys | theres no actual quest for 20-30 in ss either |
| 18:19.56 | Amarande | as a semi-good indicator, the quests that actually send you to Southshore are labeled as 35-40 quests |
| 18:20.04 | Adys | what would have been nice (and probably was planned) would have been a boat SW=>SS or MH=>SS |
| 18:20.12 | Amarande | well |
| 18:20.19 | Amarande | there really isn't much for alliance to DO in hillsbrad in the 20s anyway |
| 18:20.36 | Amarande | seeing as the lower level mobs there are friendly and questing will mostly send you into arathi or alterac |
| 18:20.36 | Adys | hence why i said what was probably planned |
| 18:20.55 | Adys | you know blizz can ... like.. |
| 18:20.59 | Adys | .. add content or something |
| 18:21.03 | Adys | like |
| 18:21.05 | Adys | add quests.. |
| 18:21.15 | Adys | so they probs just yanked the idea |
| 18:21.34 | Amarande | Adys: content that's not for top level characters? God forbid :) |
| 18:21.43 | Adys | Im not speaking right now |
| 18:21.47 | Amarande | though, seriously, aside from the little holiday goodie things |
| 18:21.48 | Adys | im speaking 3 years ago |
| 18:21.58 | Amarande | there seems to be a distinct dearth of added content for anyone who's not max level |
| 18:22.16 | Adys | because no one cares about it |
| 18:22.23 | Adys | brb 1 sec |
| 18:23.03 | Amarande | maybe that's why Uldum keeps not getting added, too |
| 18:23.32 | Amarande | from what I saw on the wiki, thoughts are that they want that to follow-on from the discs of norgannon, and possibly require those quests to enter |
| 18:23.43 | Amarande | however, that would just make Uldum an instance no one ever goes to |
| 18:24.16 | Amarande | either a) you make it an instance slightly above uldaman where you get the discs, in which case no one will bother with it, just like no one bothers with pretty much any of the lower level instances anymore |
| 18:24.28 | Amarande | or b) you make it a top level instance, but given how few people do uldaman when leveling |
| 18:24.35 | Amarande | and the fact that EVEN AT 70, you HAVE to have a group to get the discs ... |
| 18:25.30 | Amarande | actually, I'm facing that issue right now when going for the classic dungeonmaster achievement |
| 18:27.22 | Amarande | say |
| 18:27.30 | Amarande | does CoT strat require Durn and BM to enter? |
| 18:31.30 | Huufarted | You guys know where I can find the different available table styles on the wiki? |
| 18:31.42 | Huufarted | FOR the wiki, that is? |
| 18:38.55 | Ose | Amarande: no |
| 18:39.05 | Ose | atleast my premade could enter |
| 18:39.37 | sacarasc | i wanna go there, but i have to wait for ages :( |
| 18:39.51 | sacarasc | will take me about 2 months, I guess |
| 18:41.19 | Amarande | hmm, stormrage is down |
| 18:43.20 | Ose | Huufarted: there aren't that many |
| 18:43.41 | Ose | I reccomend using darktable |
| 18:45.46 | Huufarted | yeah, I like darktable, except the fact that there isn't a divider between rows |
| 18:45.53 | Huufarted | Or perhaps alternating row colors |
| 18:46.06 | g0urra | ...there is a divider |
| 18:46.51 | Huufarted | eh? I'm not seeing them. |
| 18:47.13 | Huufarted | http://www.wowwiki.com/Critter |
| 18:47.31 | Huufarted | using darktable sortable, no row dividers. |
| 18:47.38 | Huufarted | well, no collumn dividers either for that matter. |
| 18:48.48 | g0urra | lol, we're going to try Hakkar straight away |
| 18:49.47 | kd3 | even at 70, my bet is you'll still wipe without taking down the animal bosses |
| 18:52.23 | Amarande | meh |
| 18:52.26 | Amarande | ZG is ezy moad |
| 18:52.30 | Amarande | it's not like its srs bsns or anything |
| 18:52.43 | Huufarted | you guys ran Kara since 3.0.2? |
| 18:52.45 | kd3 | but hakkar is god mode with the aspects still up |
| 18:52.49 | kd3 | kara's a joke |
| 18:52.51 | Huufarted | lol |
| 18:53.06 | Huufarted | I DCd, came back about a minute later, Moroes was dead and the entire room cleared. |
| 18:53.20 | Huufarted | only a single waiter had been pulled prior to DC. |
| 18:54.05 | g0urra | kd3: we wiped, but because some dickhead put on auto run |
| 18:54.18 | g0urra | and everyone else decided to keep on going |
| 18:54.34 | kd3 | har |
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| 18:59.47 | Dotted | hmm anyway to survive nef's shadow flame without cloak? |
| 19:00.28 | kd3 | I'd say los, but I'm pretty sure they fixed that. I used to be able to ice block after taking the first tick and the rest of them would go immune |
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| 19:16.51 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Stub/Achievement is good idea? |
| 19:18.16 | kd3 | works for me. just made a few grammar pokes to it |
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| 19:35.29 | Fisker- | kills kd3 |
| 19:37.04 | Ose | casts revive on kd3 and sends him to kill Fisker- |
| 19:37.14 | kd3 | pokes the wiki |
| 19:37.32 | kd3 | realm's dead, wiki's dead... guess that means it's time to troll the forums |
| 19:39.37 | Huufarted | Wiki's dead? |
| 19:39.40 | Huufarted | ah, in here you mean |
| 19:40.03 | Ose | moonglade is online :P |
| 19:40.29 | Ose | gamecard: Expiration Date: 19 October 08 21:27 CEST |
| 19:40.38 | Ose | i'm still playing :P |
| 19:40.51 | Amarande | it's sunday |
| 19:40.57 | Amarande | maybe it doesn't actually expire till the next business day |
| 19:41.26 | Ose | maybe I need to log out for it to be frozen? |
| 19:41.33 | Ose | sure isn't going to try |
| 19:49.37 | Ose | !jobqueue |
| 19:49.38 | Dotted | The job queue length is currently 12363 |
| 19:52.44 | Adys | Ose: no, you get kicked when it freezes |
| 19:53.26 | Ose | so blizz is just slacking? |
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| 19:58.57 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Alliance-inline ....... |
| 19:59.22 | Huufarted | What's the job queue? |
| 20:00.40 | g0urra | ~jobqueue |
| 20:00.44 | infobot | Do I ask you the length of yours? |
| 20:25.31 | g0urra | Howbizr really don't know how things work does he |
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| 20:28.34 | Adys | ? |
| 20:28.54 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Icon#Problem_with_Bouquet_of_Red_Roses |
| 20:29.17 | Adys | i dont get it |
| 20:29.19 | Adys | what did he do? |
| 20:29.55 | g0urra | I don't understand why he went to the Icon template talk page |
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| 20:54.29 | Ose | guildie just got the baron charger :O |
| 20:55.07 | Ose | he and his brother were doing strat for the achievement |
| 20:55.38 | Ose | now the brother who didn't win says he's going to tell their mum |
| 20:56.29 | Adys | Im pretty sure the baron mount is much easier to get now |
| 20:56.54 | Ose | it is? |
| 20:57.19 | g0urra | I'm pretty sure Adys' mom is much easier to get now |
| 20:57.27 | Ose | to what? |
| 20:57.27 | Adys | 2/10 |
| 20:57.37 | Adys | they buffed the droprate |
| 20:58.10 | pcj | it's 20%? |
| 20:58.13 | pcj | holy shit |
| 20:58.36 | Ose | nowai |
| 20:59.29 | Ose | [[Baron's Deathcharger]] |
| 20:59.30 | Dotted | Ose meant: www.wowwiki.com/Baron's_Deathcharger |
| 21:11.21 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Deathcharger%27s_Reins |
| 21:14.42 | Ose | adys when do you reckon i'll be frozen? |
| 21:15.08 | Adys | when your body temperature reaches zero celcius |
| 21:17.08 | Ose | o har har har |
| 21:18.16 | Fisker- | Adys |
| 21:18.22 | Adys | ? |
| 21:18.33 | Fisker- | do you know if you can ask to get the Mechanical Chicken (From the OOX questline) back from the stable master? |
| 21:18.43 | Fisker- | The NPC does seem to indicate that i did it |
| 21:18.53 | Adys | I guess you can |
| 21:19.17 | Adys | you need all 3 OOX thingies to get the chicken tho |
| 21:19.20 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 21:19.23 | Adys | which i guess you all did |
| 21:19.52 | Fisker- | 1 pet away |
| 21:20.02 | Fisker- | so pay 1500g for a whelp, or get the mechanical chicken :P |
| 21:20.06 | Fisker- | tough choice :D |
| 21:20.51 | pcj | haha |
| 21:20.58 | pcj | i have like 60 small pets |
| 21:21.01 | Adys | i ended up paying for a whelp :/ |
| 21:21.05 | Adys | for the 50th |
| 21:21.14 | Adys | but mostly because i couldnt be arsed to get the yeti done |
| 21:21.27 | pcj | ur mom got the yeti done |
| 21:21.39 | Adys | 7/10 |
| 21:21.48 | Adys | see g0urra |
| 21:21.53 | Adys | pcj has more style than you |
| 21:21.57 | g0urra | k |
| 21:24.14 | pcj | are there any hidden quests in nagrand? i can't find any and i'm missing one it seems |
| 21:24.31 | Adys | theres one that drops from the invaders |
| 21:24.34 | Adys | near the ethereum camp |
| 21:25.49 | winkiller | they circle arounf the lake |
| 21:25.52 | pcj | i'm pretty sure i've done that |
| 21:25.54 | pcj | i'll check tho |
| 21:26.06 | winkiller | they can be as far north as the war party |
| 21:26.10 | winkiller | pcj: horde/ally? |
| 21:26.21 | pcj | alliance |
| 21:26.47 | winkiller | mhm, the ogres on the hills east of telaar, that stupid guy you have to free three times |
| 21:26.55 | Adys | lol |
| 21:26.56 | winkiller | Altruis |
| 21:26.57 | Adys | thats alliance |
| 21:27.02 | pcj | corky |
| 21:27.03 | pcj | yeah |
| 21:27.08 | g0urra | Altruis is the demonhunter |
| 21:27.17 | winkiller | he can be missed |
| 21:27.19 | Adys | urmom hunts demons |
| 21:27.30 | pcj | 1/10 |
| 21:27.32 | winkiller | nitrin in the armory |
| 21:28.06 | winkiller | lantresor (I was puzzled that alliance can do that chain) |
| 21:28.23 | winkiller | pcj: and the ambush north of nesingwary's camp |
| 21:28.24 | pcj | yeah |
| 21:28.27 | pcj | i've done all those |
| 21:28.31 | Adys | lantresor? |
| 21:28.33 | winkiller | not many more I can think of, sorry |
| 21:28.33 | Adys | ambush? |
| 21:28.36 | winkiller | of the burning blade |
| 21:28.39 | pcj | yeah i waited 30 minutes to check that and i'd already done it |
| 21:28.46 | winkiller | it's called enumeration, adys |
| 21:28.52 | winkiller | that's not all one thing I'm saying |
| 21:28.59 | Adys | yeah im asking about those two |
| 21:29.14 | winkiller | lantresor is the orc/demon in the BB ruins |
| 21:29.19 | pcj | well i'm going down the list at http://thottbot.com/?f=q&title=&obj=&desc=&qt=1&qt=0&type=E&zones=3518&minl=&maxl=&minol=&maxol=&empire=A#A::A:3:::14 |
| 21:29.21 | Adys | BB? |
| 21:29.22 | winkiller | and the ambush is sioem weird timed respawn |
| 21:29.22 | pcj | and i'm not seeing anything |
| 21:29.26 | winkiller | BURNING BLADE RUINS |
| 21:29.27 | pcj | and that's more than 75 |
| 21:29.31 | Adys | ah. |
| 21:29.50 | winkiller | lantresor is like the shittiest name ever |
| 21:30.04 | winkiller | tresor is the german word for safe/vault |
| 21:30.44 | g0urra | LAN vault? |
| 21:32.59 | winkiller | yep :/ |
| 21:35.16 | Adys | that would be LAN treasure in french |
| 21:35.59 | Adys | wow |
| 21:36.03 | Adys | i just remembered |
| 21:36.12 | g0urra | in swedish it would be Countryside travels |
| 21:36.12 | Adys | the model for the spirit of competition has been ingame since 1.7 |
| 21:36.19 | g0urra | oooold |
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| 23:59.10 | pcj | yeah it was the invaders |
| 23:59.12 | pcj | figures |
