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00:09.27pcjnoooo, fight it off tekkub, don't let your bot control you
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01:18.33Dottedhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Fresh_Brewfest_Hops <- b0rken
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02:23.16Sandwichman2448I feel words players make up buy using the in-game language parser/translator to convert English to whatever should be cut from the pages. I tried this once, but it was reverted. But look at Bur...
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02:31.06kd3http://www.wowwiki.com/Orcish_/_Common_Dictionary
02:45.10Sky2042_afkkd3, ?
02:46.21kd3just random humor
02:47.05Sky2042_afkoh, yeah.
02:54.07pcjwoot got my kodo
02:56.17Eraclitooww do want :( i only got the healer trinket (for next pach) and the blue item who port the group to brd
02:58.13Eraclitoand, uhm, any news about minor glyphs? blizz adds the orcish/common dictionary and yet didn't worked on them?
03:06.38pcjyeah i got the 4 trinkets, the remote, the ram and kodo so far
03:09.41Gnarfoz2 kodos, 1 ram, got none.
03:09.41Gnarfoz:X
03:09.57Eraclitobut hey, i bought the glasses
03:10.04Eraclitoeveryone looks cool now
03:10.05Gnarfoz(+a remote, all trinkets 5 times over, dagger, etc etc etc :X)
03:10.40GnarfozI think we spent 4-5 hours straight in BRD with only rotating people in that didn't do the quest, yet
03:21.47cruciallyanyone want me to break wowwiki?
03:32.40pcjoh plz
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04:54.54pcjstop
04:55.26Sky2042_afkpcj?
04:55.44pcji thought crucially meant wowwiki not #wowwiki
04:56.13Sky2042_afkno, that would be [freenode] acting up.
04:58.09Adysurbadsky2042
04:58.19Adyshttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043279873&sid=2000
04:59.11Sky2042_afkperfect thread to start a chain of over 900s
04:59.16Sky2042_afk9000s
04:59.21AdysFUCKINGFAIL
05:06.43mxsI absolutely LOVE the guy asking "Is it just a display error, or are you doing uber lightning bolt damage?"
05:06.56mxswhich is answered in line 3
05:08.34kd3pokes the image cache
05:08.58pcji poked ur moms cache if you know what i mean
05:09.24Sky2042_afkwow...
05:09.29Sky2042_afkgolf claps for pcj.
05:48.37Eraclito<PROTECTED>
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06:20.50neurodamageso I'm wondering how to get to stormwind city for some double sword training from silvermoon city ? :(
06:22.31Sky2042_afkuh, other than the fact that one is horde and the other alliance?...
06:22.36Sky2042_afk:o
06:30.47neurodamageeh?
06:31.03neurodamageaye...I just bought stuff at an auction and it's nowhere in my bags or anything, that's really annoying?
06:31.46Sky2042_afkwell, it is hard to train dual swords when you are horde and you're tyring to get to an alliance city.
06:32.14neurodamageSky2042_afk: is there somewhere closer I can train dual swords or is that the only place?
06:32.15Eraclitooh noes, it's a good idea
06:32.23neurodamageheh
06:32.26neurodamageyeah for getting slayed.
06:32.28Eraclitogoes to the bridge
06:32.58Sky2042_afkit can't possibly be the only place. i don't know where the horde train dual swords off the top of my head.
06:33.32neurodamageSky2042_afk: ok how about the auction stuff, when I buy things? via buyout, where do they go?
06:33.50Eraclitomailbox
06:34.08neurodamageyup just read that online :)
06:34.10neurodamagethanks.
06:34.46neurodamagewhat would rings be under sections wize in auctions?
06:39.28Sky2042_afkuh, finger or miscellaneous or something.
06:46.22neurodamageSky2042_afk: is it better to sell things at an auction?
06:46.30neurodamageSky2042_afk: or better to just sell them right away ?
06:46.33Sky2042_afkdepensd on what you're selling.
06:46.42neurodamagelow level weapons
06:46.50neurodamagecrystalized mana residue
06:46.53Sky2042_afkgreen items or better you can usually sell at auction. be sure to mark them up slightly.
06:46.56neurodamagea smaller quiver
06:47.09neurodamageSky2042_afk: ok, any good online source for pricing of those items?
06:47.22Sky2042_afkeach server is different.
06:47.29neurodamageoh ok
06:47.39Sky2042_afkyou can hit up any of the major database sites though if you want an opinion.
06:47.44neurodamagehow would i find out on the server
06:47.49neurodamageok will check a few of those out
06:47.52Sky2042_afkbut the best bet is to see how items are selling on your server.
06:48.03Sky2042_afkwhich means looking up your item.
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08:42.41winkilleroi
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08:48.00soufronhello
08:50.05Fisker-winkiller my mortal enemy
08:50.20winkillerFisker- my eternal villain
08:55.00Fisker-why so classic?
09:01.28Adysmxs: ping
09:17.21neurodamageDeekin: I played a little bit then gave up and I'm getting back into it, but I'm not sure how to get a pet to train and play with and I'm a hunter lvl 12
09:22.36Eraclito*huntard,  the class is called huntard
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09:28.02neurodamageEraclito: hehe
09:28.05neurodamageand that's because?
09:28.15neurodamageI hate a few things like I can't wear mail armor until 40 no shields etc...
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10:26.49winkillerwtf
10:27.05winkillerthe tames devilsaur makes normal walking noises
10:28.07Adysgood.
10:28.10Adysit was getting annoying
10:29.16winkillergod, all Germans speaking German
10:32.50winkillerwow, I did 1742 quests
10:33.17Fisker-that's a first
10:33.21Fisker-proximity loot bug
10:33.50winkillerlol 118/120 Netherstorm quests done
10:35.15g0urraI had 119
10:35.39winkillerall outland explored except: Nagrand: Zangar Ridge / Twilight Ridge
10:35.41winkillernice
10:36.40winkillerlol, only 26k HK
10:39.02winkillerwow, I don't even remember killing Ossi. yay for surprise achievements
10:40.04winkillerseems buggy, can't be I never did Quagmirran.
10:40.36g0urrayes it's buggy
10:40.54winkillerit has vashj/TK/etc though
10:41.04winkillerony also missing
10:41.53g0urrait only tracks stuff from what you've done a quests for or got loot from
10:42.00winkillerhm yeah
10:42.04winkillerbut not in live?
10:42.20winkillerso when achievements ingame and I kill it, it should count, right?
10:42.27g0urrayes..
10:42.36winkillerhey, you never know :P
10:42.52winkillerin theory this "vanish" skill should've worked the last 3 years
10:48.25Eraclito[12:41:54] <@g0urra> it only tracks stuff from what you've done a quests for or got loot from <- mh? no, i have quagmirrian eye equipped, but it doesn't say i killed him
10:48.34Eraclitobut i don't login ptr since the last patch
10:49.21g0urrawell, seems like that particular achievement needs you to kill quagmirran
10:49.23g0urrahttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?achievement=649
10:52.07g0urrahttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?achievement=1787
10:52.10g0urralol
10:52.51Eraclitolove blizz
10:53.04Eraclitoor /b/lizzard
10:56.09mxsAdys: plonk
10:56.14mxswhat's up ?
10:56.22Adysmxs: PTR and beta patches are identical, arent they?
10:56.28mxsno
10:57.23mxscompare : http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/checksum/4989 http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/checksum/5016
10:57.31AdysYeah but whats the difference?
10:57.37mxsnot sure whether the MPQs match, but the updaters definitely don't
10:57.47AdysSize
10:57.47Adys77.26 MiB
10:57.47AdysSize
10:57.47Adys78.58 MiB
10:58.18mxswell
10:58.29mxsfor one thing, it does not contain all the wotlk data
10:58.32mxsnorthrend and such
10:58.41Adys1mb for northrend update i doubt that..
10:58.53mxsmaybe they are taking shortcuts
10:59.14mxsbut the ptr installer is 900mb
10:59.16mxswotlk installer is 2g
10:59.19mxsthere is something missing
11:00.00mxsthe client behaves as if wotlk is not installed (compare to classic wow vs. tbc wow), i.e. if you try to log in to the ptr with your blizzard account, you get the message that you do not have a wotlk client
11:00.08mxsand a (dead) url where to download it
11:00.55mxsso I suspect a lot of it is just dead weight, just as most of the tbc patches are dead weight to classic players
11:01.53winkiller"putting out the light" - kill prohpet velen
11:01.59winkilleromg I'm dying of laughter
11:02.23mxsprobably not worth separating it out too much, anyway -- classic/tbc clients will still need wotlk models for dks, gear, etc
11:03.19AdysYeah hence why there's only terrain and sounds in lichking.mpq and expansion.mpq
11:03.22Adysand similar stuff
11:13.10Fisker-mmm
11:13.22Fisker-if blizzard hadn't caved into alliance qq i would've had a kodo now
11:16.13g0urrauh
11:16.19g0urraboth factions can get both mounts Fisker-
11:16.30Fisker-i know
11:16.48Fisker-What do you think would've dropped instead of a Ram if both factions couldn't get both mounts?
11:16.48g0urrawhy so QQ Fisker-
11:16.59g0urraur mom
11:17.00Fisker-*drumroll*
11:17.08Fisker-nope g0urra
11:17.18AdysI CONFIRM WHAT G0URRA SAID.
11:24.55winkiller132/749 achievements. I fail
11:25.09AdysYep
11:25.15Adys[14:24:20] <+winkiller> .... I fail
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14:21.42andreywhy hello there
14:21.56andreyi have been searching wow wiki for a while, and i cant find how to use skins
14:22.06andreyi want that my undead charctaer will look like human warrior
14:22.20andreyi have a file named patch-8.MPQ
14:22.25andreyand i have no idea what to do with it
14:22.28andreyhelp please :)
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14:25.43Adysmorning all
14:33.48KalrothGoddan turks!
14:33.52Kalroth+m
14:40.36AdysTransfer Aborted: instance is full
14:40.38Adys:D
14:43.04Adyshttp://s4.tinypic.com/msy59c.jpg
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15:24.06DottedFisker-
15:24.15Dottedjust got Kiss of the Spider
15:28.18sacarascbeta or real Naxx?
15:28.31Adysreal one, he needs to l2p
15:28.42Adysbesides theres no KotS in nax80
15:43.27Fisker-why so fail Dotted ?
15:43.49Dottedi had Hand of Justice before
15:44.36Fisker-you're kidding right?
15:45.00Dottedhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Trollbane&n=Dotted
15:45.55Fisker-i lol'd
15:46.10Dottedwhy wouldnt one?
15:46.33Fisker-HoJ scales with level ibelieve
15:46.45Fisker-atleast it did at some point
15:46.55Fisker-and by scaling i mean becomes worse
15:54.34Dottedofc
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16:38.00Adyshttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043230085&sid=2003#6
16:38.02Adyswoot woot
16:38.06Adyspublic bans in europe
16:38.18AdysHow's that unfair treatment to european customers !
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16:47.29Akromahey there
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16:49.04KalrothAdys: owned!
16:52.46AdysKalroth: rofl
16:53.31Adys[Party] [Addys]: brb installing rollhax
16:53.31Adys[Condre] whispers: wtf??
16:53.55Kalroth..
16:55.37Fisker-Pretty retarded system if they have to restart all servers when restarting one
16:55.38Fisker-hoho
16:55.51Adysur mom is pretty retarded and that shows
16:56.11Fisker-nah because my mom didn't give birth to you
16:56.20Adysi didnt say restart jackass
16:56.21Adysho ho
16:56.27AdysI said maintenance
16:57.04Fisker-i didn't say you said restart
16:57.05Fisker-jackass
16:57.06Fisker-btw
16:57.23Adysyou did
16:57.29Fisker-no
16:57.38Fisker-you just failed to comprehend that the world doesn't revolve around you
16:57.53Fisker-Infact i wasn't even talking about that topic you linked
16:58.09Adysi think you're failing to comprehend that your days are counted in this chan
16:58.21Fisker-dun dun dun
17:00.08Fisker-So how many days have you counted sofar?
17:08.54Adysdid it really take you over 2 mins to fail that bad
17:09.16Akromawoltk patch out yet? or its up after ptr over?
17:10.16Fisker-so it took you 9 minutes to fail that bad
17:10.37Fisker-s/so/no/
17:16.18AdysI live in Sweden, and to me it's obvious the Vrykul are based off vikings.
17:16.21AdysROFL
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17:20.21huraxi'm not swedish but thought the same...
17:21.15Fisker-I think that's the point
17:21.16huraxbesides what i just read about varimathras betrayal and the battle for undercity... that looks really nice
17:25.36AdysKalroth
17:25.41AdysI live in Greece
17:25.44AdysI'm born in france
17:25.51Adysand to me it's obvious you are Danish
17:29.25Kalrothfucking malaka!
17:35.18Fisker-why so malaka?
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19:13.45Ose[[Direbrew's Remote]] lol
19:13.46DottedOse meant: www.wowwiki.com/Direbrew's_Remote
19:13.53Ose"Battleground groups count as a raid. "
19:13.57Adysf'kin old
19:13.59Osea subtle hint
19:14.34pcjooooooooooooooooold
19:15.50Oseyour mom?
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20:30.38EraclitoKODOKODOKODOKODO
20:32.13Oseenvies Eraclito
20:34.17Eraclitowas so lucky
20:34.21Eraclitoi already summoned him today
20:34.31Eraclitobut i have the blue device to port the group to brd
20:34.38Eraclitoso i'm wanted from lazy ppl
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21:39.28g0urrauh okay
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21:39.34g0urrathat Pelmeen PM'd me "hi"
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21:42.24Sandwichman2448It is good to be polite.
21:43.14BagginswwI think unireal's trying to be helpful, but he's butchered a few infoboxes :p
21:43.14g0urraand he quits again
21:45.37Sandwichman2448Well, he is doing more than just removing info.
21:48.33Bagginswwwell ya point out where he screws up :p
21:48.40Bagginswwand fix the edits :p
21:48.51Bagginswwand don't just point it out ot me :)
21:48.56Bagginswwpoint it out in his talk page
21:49.39BagginswwI don't want to flat out revert his edits, but some are very hard to follow :p
21:51.12Fisker-why so g0urra ?
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22:20.13cruciallyi just purchased some SSDs to make your site faster
22:20.52kd3gasps
22:21.25foxlitwe're io-bound?
22:21.30foxlitWho could've guessed :P
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22:35.19cruciallywe are testing them out in the front caches
22:35.35cruciallythe OCZ Core V2 isn't fast enough
22:36.28cruciallyso trying the Intel X-25M and the Memoright GT 32GB
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22:51.45mxscrucially: how big is the wowwiki workingset ?
22:52.00mxsi.e. wouldn't it be feasible to keep it entirely in ram ?
22:53.03earthmeLonI just went to Azshara for the first time as a hordie. Is there really only 3 quests there for them? haha
22:53.40cruciallymxs: cache?
22:54.08cruciallywe can keep 85% of working set in 16GB
22:54.24cruciallyer, 80% at 8GB, and 85% at 16GB
22:54.32cruciallybut I want to cache more
23:05.16mxscrucially: that's pretty nice ... guess I'll have to write that varnish director which splits up requests deterministically, then you can use 2 16gb ram caches for one combined workingset :>
23:06.10cruciallyheh, you hack on varnish?
23:06.45cruciallyit can't be a director
23:07.13cruciallybecause you want to pass it before you enter the main logic based on the url, so you have to basically communicate back from the director if you want to just pass or not
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23:07.36cruciallynginx does it, but it also doesn't speak to 1.1, so ihave to use apache in front of varnish
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