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| 00:01.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Where's our resident patch guy? |
| 00:02.34 | Kirkburn|afk | g0urra, got a link? |
| 00:02.48 | g0urra | haha wow. anyone checked the brewfest music in the MPQ files? |
| 00:02.52 | g0urra | Kirkburn|afk: who? |
| 00:03.10 | Kirkburn|afk | mxs or whatever it's spelt like, Mr Wirebrain |
| 00:05.21 | g0urra | Kirkburn|afk: it'll be at http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/wotlk/ach/8778?diff=1 when it's up |
| 00:05.29 | g0urra | (the new build is 8778, no?) |
| 00:06.32 | Kirkburn|afk | How'd you find out the size/build?? |
| 00:06.41 | g0urra | Because I've downloaded it?! |
| 00:06.57 | Kirkburn|afk | buh? |
| 00:07.05 | g0urra | YAY frost wyrm >:3 |
| 00:07.06 | g0urra | awsm |
| 00:07.16 | g0urra | Kirkburn|afk: use the launcher |
| 00:07.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, now it's on my launcher |
| 00:07.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, wasn't there a few seconds ago, oddly |
| 00:07.50 | g0urra | Ah it's 8788 |
| 00:08.14 | jaxdahl | it's not on my launcher yet |
| 00:08.46 | jaxdahl | (US) |
| 00:08.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Wow, speedy download |
| 00:09.13 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm so happy they upgraded my broadband now :) |
| 00:09.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Can reach 1MB/s now |
| 00:09.25 | jaxdahl | no torrent up on wirebrain? |
| 00:09.28 | g0urra | Kirkburn|afk: http://i35.tinypic.com/1552dck.jpg |
| 00:09.36 | Kirkburn|afk | jaxdahl, he may be asleep or away |
| 00:09.46 | Kirkburn|afk | yay |
| 00:09.48 | Kirkburn|afk | and sound? |
| 00:09.51 | jaxdahl | nice wyrm |
| 00:09.52 | g0urra | No sound |
| 00:10.07 | jaxdahl | i'd love the DK mount to look something like that |
| 00:10.11 | jaxdahl | instead of a pale eagle |
| 00:10.19 | Kirkburn|afk | My god, some people have insane upload bandwidth |
| 00:10.52 | Kirkburn|afk | hah, I like how right at the end, I start running out of peers |
| 00:11.03 | jaxdahl | Kirkburn|afk, are you d/ling the EU patch? |
| 00:11.05 | g0urra | FFS |
| 00:11.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Yep |
| 00:11.09 | g0urra | I hate this kitten |
| 00:11.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Noo, you kitten hater. I want a kitten. |
| 00:11.22 | g0urra | First it peed in a box of (old) hardware |
| 00:11.26 | g0urra | now it peed in my bed |
| 00:11.27 | g0urra | ASDSAGFD |
| 00:11.39 | jaxdahl | are there any patch notes in the download? |
| 00:11.41 | g0urra | USE THE LITTER BOX |
| 00:11.55 | Kirkburn|afk | We've only moved on 8 builds? |
| 00:12.04 | g0urra | no, 18 |
| 00:12.18 | g0urra | Kirkburn|afk: have you patched yet? |
| 00:12.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Patching now |
| 00:12.34 | g0urra | nooooooo |
| 00:12.40 | g0urra | send me your Patch.txt |
| 00:12.51 | jaxdahl | put it up on a pastebin :P |
| 00:13.16 | Kirkburn|afk | What's wrong with your own? o_O |
| 00:13.30 | g0urra | I want to see the difference? O_o |
| 00:14.11 | Kirkburn|afk | okay, sex |
| 00:14.17 | Kirkburn|afk | er |
| 00:14.27 | Adys | you whore |
| 00:14.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Can't reach pastebin |
| 00:15.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Somewhere else? |
| 00:15.23 | jaxdahl | pastebin.ca? |
| 00:15.26 | Gryphen | www.pastethat.com ? |
| 00:15.37 | g0urra | http://pastebin.com/ ? |
| 00:15.40 | jaxdahl | http://rafb.net/paste |
| 00:15.45 | jaxdahl | http://pastebin.ca |
| 00:15.54 | Sky2042_afk | wikia.pastey? |
| 00:15.58 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.pastethat.com/p8770 |
| 00:16.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Should be the old one, timestamp hadn't changed by the time I copied it |
| 00:17.02 | Kirkburn|afk | yay frostwyrm |
| 00:17.29 | Adys | Kirkburn|afk: can you upload me the downloader somewhere? |
| 00:17.31 | Adys | not the patch itsel |
| 00:17.58 | jaxdahl | so they didn't update patch.txt ? |
| 00:18.26 | Kirkburn|afk | jaxdahl, g0urra is checking |
| 00:18.41 | Kirkburn|afk | I copied old so he could compare |
| 00:18.43 | jaxdahl | oh, gotcha |
| 00:18.58 | jaxdahl | put the new one up somewhere so i can browse? |
| 00:19.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Checking with a diff engine I hope |
| 00:19.09 | Adys | yes they updated it |
| 00:19.16 | pcj | is the US version not up yet |
| 00:19.20 | jaxdahl | pcj, nope |
| 00:20.52 | g0urra | http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?diff=m26b5a887 |
| 00:21.06 | g0urra | + |
| 00:21.06 | g0urra | - Feral Swiftness: The movement speed buff can now be used indoors. |
| 00:21.15 | g0urra | Aspect of the Beast: Now increases your melee attack power by 10%. |
| 00:21.21 | g0urra | TEH IMBA |
| 00:21.38 | pcj | ooold |
| 00:22.20 | Kirkburn|afk | oh emm gee |
| 00:22.28 | pcj | "Arcane Shot: No longer dispels magic effects." |
| 00:22.29 | pcj | hooray |
| 00:22.48 | Kirkburn|afk | pcj, it moved to tranq shot |
| 00:23.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Also, I see what they meant by making hunter melee better |
| 00:23.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Almost all the changes are for that :P |
| 00:23.11 | kd3 | they fix us servers yes? |
| 00:23.15 | kd3 | yet* |
| 00:23.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Fix = update? |
| 00:23.47 | jaxdahl | most, if not all, of these changes were mentioned on the forums |
| 00:23.47 | kd3 | that too, perhaps. both northrend and LK have been broken for hours now |
| 00:24.03 | jaxdahl | wonder if they got more DK changes pushed/fixed |
| 00:24.20 | jaxdahl | kd3, they went down at 3:30pm pacific |
| 00:24.24 | jaxdahl | about 2 hours ago |
| 00:24.29 | jaxdahl | for patch |
| 00:24.31 | Kirkburn|afk | kd3, broken how? |
| 00:24.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Loot lag? If so, haha, you got what the EU had all weekend |
| 00:24.44 | pcj | just like the wiki is broken |
| 00:29.57 | Kirkburn|afk | I think we have a new ice troll model |
| 00:31.41 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Patch_3.0.1&diff=1571922&oldid=1570533&rcid=1560098 |
| 00:31.44 | g0urra | Build 8788 changes |
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| 00:32.34 | kd3 | kirk; world server crashing, trying to loot would d/c, etc... |
| 00:33.16 | Sky2042_afk | nerf to arcane shot. woohoo |
| 00:33.57 | kd3 | anyone see an enUS patch link yet? |
| 00:33.58 | g0urra | kd3: sounds like an average day on EU beta |
| 00:34.09 | Sky2042_afk | buff to arcane blast. |
| 00:34.10 | Sky2042_afk | again. |
| 00:34.56 | Sky2042_afk | buff to water ele. |
| 00:35.29 | g0urra | When casting a spell: |
| 00:35.29 | g0urra | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.29 | g0urra | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.29 | g0urra | >:3 |
| 00:35.45 | Fisker- | anyone has patch link >:3? |
| 00:35.47 | Sky2042_afk | I can't tell if that's a good change or a bad one :/ |
| 00:36.04 | g0urra | Fisker-, if you're on EU you can download it >:3 |
| 00:36.25 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 00:36.35 | Fisker- | i r used to blizzard not caring about eu people, etc. |
| 00:36.40 | Kirkburn|afk | kd3, yup, that's the Coldarra over the weekend |
| 00:36.46 | Fisker- | server up yet? |
| 00:36.47 | robotusch | Fisker- <3 |
| 00:36.52 | g0urra | no server yet |
| 00:36.55 | Kirkburn|afk | s/ra/ra server/ |
| 00:37.06 | robotusch | Getting a gold medallion for winning with a single reinforcement to spare |
| 00:37.12 | Fisker- | then i must take my leave g0urra |
| 00:37.12 | robotusch | .. that's poetic justice |
| 00:37.18 | Fisker- | OLD robotusch |
| 00:37.23 | g0urra | oh look it's a server |
| 00:37.25 | Fisker- | i won with 1 reinforcement first |
| 00:37.35 | robotusch | pics or gtfo |
| 00:37.47 | Fisker- | i did pics or gtfo n00b |
| 00:37.51 | robotusch | næh |
| 00:37.52 | robotusch | also |
| 00:37.56 | Fisker- | l2remember |
| 00:38.07 | robotusch | lulz seeing our resident Italians go nuts in BG chat over that win |
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| 00:40.34 | Fisker- | http://i36.tinypic.com/aawrqx.jpg |
| 00:40.37 | Fisker- | y helo thar robotusch |
| 00:40.54 | Fisker- | though i never got the 1-1 shot because we won when i was about to take the shot |
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| 00:41.24 | Mikk | WoWWiki ate my user! |
| 00:41.33 | Mikk | "Login error: You have not specified a valid user name." |
| 00:41.33 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 00:41.43 | Fisker- | so since you're not an admin anymore |
| 00:41.45 | kd3 | o_O; try WoWWiki-Mikk |
| 00:41.46 | Fisker- | you should deop yourself |
| 00:41.47 | Fisker- | :D |
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| 00:42.07 | Mikk | kd3: Mikk was working just fine the other day, well after the move |
| 00:42.15 | Mikk | But I did try that too just for the hell of it |
| 00:42.58 | Mikk | Omg? Fisker is in a channel I have op in? |
| 00:42.59 | Sky2042_afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Listusers/sysop |
| 00:43.02 | Sky2042_afk | You're still in there. |
| 00:43.04 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Fisker-!n=mike@WoWUIDev/mikk] by Mikk (Mikk) |
| 00:43.10 | Sky2042_afk | Oh, hell yes. |
| 00:43.17 | Sky2042_afk | likes this guy a lot. |
| 00:43.25 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o kd3] by ChanServ |
| 00:43.53 | kd3 | don't see any wikia staff in here. /ponder |
| 00:44.03 | Sky2042 | kd3? |
| 00:44.11 | Sky2042 | Other than Kirkburn? |
| 00:44.23 | kd3 | he's afk |
| 00:44.23 | Mikk | Doubt kirkburn can massage the db :P |
| 00:44.37 | robotusch | Frisko, http://i34.tinypic.com/2ijk8rm.jpg |
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| 00:45.46 | *** join/#wowwiki Mike-N-Go (n=MikeNGoS@64.193.93.197) |
| 00:45.54 | Mikk | wonders if Fisker- doesn't know that kick doesn't == ban |
| 00:46.28 | pcj | no he just doesn't have auto-rejoin |
| 00:46.31 | Sky2042 | It's likely the Fisker is afk . |
| 00:46.32 | pcj | and is probably moping |
| 00:46.50 | Charitwo | Mikk: i think the database could use a massage every now and then too |
| 00:47.06 | pcj | massages Charitwo's database |
| 00:47.10 | Charitwo | o.o |
| 00:47.18 | Sky2042 | o_o |
| 00:47.35 | pcj | o o |
| 00:47.35 | pcj | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.45 | g0urra | o¯o |
| 00:48.07 | robotusch | he logged off, sadly I know him IRL & share an IRC channel with him on another network |
| 00:48.17 | pcj | that is sad |
| 00:48.25 | g0urra | ^ |
| 00:48.36 | robotusch | I've met him IRL too |
| 00:48.43 | robotusch | *shudder* |
| 00:48.51 | pcj | usually you have to meet people IRL to know them IRL |
| 00:49.05 | robotusch | is that so |
| 00:49.13 | pcj | as a general rule yes |
| 00:49.18 | robotusch | :( |
| 00:49.26 | pcj | i might make an exception in your case |
| 00:50.13 | robotusch | shared guild with him, shared trash talking with over msn (he's usually blocked, but occasionally he is allowed to speak) and generally do nothing but verbally abuse each other :/ |
| 00:50.21 | robotusch | oh well |
| 00:50.35 | robotusch | 1500 honor down, 33500 to go |
| 00:50.58 | pcj | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4524831.ece |
| 00:51.34 | robotusch | jesus christ, that's going to be fun to watch |
| 00:52.52 | Charitwo | has there ever been an undefeatable boss in WoW, that causes players to throw up and pass out after fighting for so long? |
| 00:53.10 | Sky2042_afk | It's likely C'Thun was like that. |
| 00:53.13 | Sky2042_afk | >.> |
| 00:53.18 | Charitwo | http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=Special:LinkRedirect&link=true&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpetfoodalpha.com%2F%3Fp%3D1055 |
| 00:53.21 | Charitwo | we gots one of those |
| 00:53.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Mikk, I've reported it, you're not the only one |
| 00:53.40 | Charitwo | that story even got a blurb on xplay |
| 00:54.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Mikk, what browser? |
| 00:55.14 | g0urra | Charitwo: AV, before they did major changes to it |
| 00:55.25 | g0urra | Though it can't be called a boss fight. |
| 00:55.42 | Charitwo | well i dunno what you call high level mobs in WoW |
| 00:56.08 | g0urra | We call them bosses >.> |
| 00:56.19 | g0urra | AV = Alterac Valley, a PvP battleground |
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| 00:59.01 | Mikk | Kirkburn|afk: was opera now. could try with something else of course. |
| 00:59.34 | Mikk | It's just... submitting forms and getting html is a very very basic thing, and has been done right ever since netscape 0.1 :) |
| 01:00.35 | Kirkburn|sleep | Okay, Opera bug is known |
| 01:00.54 | Mikk | blinks |
| 01:00.58 | Mikk | Yeah, moz let me in |
| 01:01.00 | Kirkburn|sleep | Don't know why, will be looked into asap |
| 01:01.14 | Kirkburn|sleep | However, I'm off to bed |
| 01:03.05 | Adys | night all |
| 01:03.16 | Kirkburn|sleep | Bibi, prod if you've not been paying attention |
| 01:03.24 | Adys | hes asleep |
| 01:03.31 | Adys | that lazy fucking asstard. |
| 01:04.09 | Kirkburn|sleep | Unfortunate, but such is the way |
| 01:04.20 | Kirkburn|sleep | At least he'll have a nice surprise waiting :) |
| 01:04.37 | Adys | he probably knows |
| 01:04.39 | Adys | and didnt fucking tell me |
| 01:04.44 | Adys | asshole. |
| 01:07.49 | jaxdahl | what's the nice surprise? |
| 01:14.41 | Kirkburn|sleep | patch, duh |
| 01:15.04 | Charitwo | Kirkburn goto bed ! :O |
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| 01:31.19 | kd3 | "ERR: bed not found" |
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| 01:38.13 | crucially | hi |
| 01:38.22 | crucially | how is the site? |
| 01:38.38 | Adys | Fine. You? |
| 01:38.44 | crucially | horrible |
| 01:38.59 | Adys | that sucks :/ Will an article about it comfort you? |
| 01:40.46 | crucially | Yes |
| 02:00.22 | kd3 | zomg they added rhonin |
| 02:10.12 | crucially | has someone reproduced to login problem? |
| 02:14.31 | jaxdahl | hooray US realms are up |
| 02:14.52 | pcj | no US patch? |
| 02:14.58 | jaxdahl | pcj, log in to get it |
| 02:15.00 | jaxdahl | or |
| 02:15.10 | jaxdahl | http://jax2.zenblue.net/WoW-3.0.1.8770-to-3.0.1.8788-enUS-downloader.torrent |
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| 02:29.26 | jaxdahl | weird.. |
| 02:29.35 | jaxdahl | alliance towns are showing up with icons next to them |
| 02:29.40 | jaxdahl | and some other places too |
| 02:29.44 | jaxdahl | not sure what they mean |
| 02:30.53 | jaxdahl | some have wood icons, others have blacksmith icons |
| 02:33.56 | kd3 | wow, veresa windrunner's there too |
| 02:34.14 | kd3 | jax; har. they goofed the PoI icons |
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| 02:40.39 | jaxdahl | new item |
| 02:40.43 | jaxdahl | Icier Barbed Spear |
| 02:40.53 | jaxdahl | "100% More Chilling!" |
| 02:41.48 | Mikk | suggest that <div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [[wikia:c:w:c:wowwiki|WoWWiki]], a [[wikia:|Wikia]] wiki.</small></div> NOT be inserted at the bottom of Special:Export output |
| 02:42.03 | Mikk | It's supposed to be an export of what the page contains, not bloody advertisments. |
| 02:42.25 | Mikk | It's not even as if wikia owns the content >.< |
| 02:46.18 | crucially | read the GFDL |
| 02:47.40 | Mikk | er... how does that contradict what I just said? |
| 02:47.44 | jaxdahl | http://jax2.zenblue.net/wotlk_map.jpg |
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| 02:59.18 | crucially | I am not going to argue, but GFDL requires attribution |
| 02:59.39 | Adys | how about you remove the div anyway? |
| 02:59.54 | Adys | you can put credits another way |
| 02:59.59 | Adys | if you really feel its necessary |
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| 03:08.25 | Mikk | "GFDL requires attribution" ... erm..... then attribute the authors |
| 03:09.15 | Mikk | "All previous authors of the work must be attributed." |
| 03:10.55 | Mikk | That's still not wikia though |
| 03:12.52 | Mikk | The reason I'm bitching is because those little notices are suddenly everywhere in bot-created pages relying on Special:Export exporting the wikitext and not blurbs |
| 03:13.31 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Guild#GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE |
| 03:13.54 | pcj | just make your bot remove them? |
| 03:14.28 | Mikk | Failing to see why I should put in work to remove something that shouldn't be there to begin with. |
| 03:15.07 | pcj | i know, wikia has made work for me in the past as well |
| 03:15.52 | Mikk | Oh, updates.. moves... I've gotten my slew of work fixing consequences. That's fine. |
| 03:24.27 | jaxdahl | i wonder why the DK mount goes into a mount tab in the spellbook now and not the old mounts tab in the character pane pet tab |
| 03:28.52 | crucially | any 503 server errors reported? |
| 03:29.06 | pcj | only thing is it keeps logging me out |
| 03:29.32 | crucially | pcj: randomly? |
| 03:29.41 | pcj | seemingly |
| 03:29.41 | crucially | or on specific tasks |
| 03:29.45 | crucially | browser |
| 03:30.02 | pcj | fx3 |
| 03:30.21 | crucially | lame ass open source stuff |
| 03:30.49 | pcj | isn't mediawiki open source |
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| 03:30.59 | crucially | nope, it all runs on windows iis |
| 03:31.06 | crucially | with microsoft wiki server |
| 03:31.15 | crucially | we are just fooling you guys by making it look like mediawiki |
| 03:31.24 | crucially | can you check what cookies you have after it has logged you out? |
| 03:32.32 | pcj | well im logged in atm |
| 03:35.00 | crucially | tell me when it happens next time |
| 03:35.01 | crucially | ok? |
| 03:35.06 | pcj | ok |
| 03:39.46 | crucially | i got logged out |
| 03:39.48 | crucially | bitching |
| 03:43.03 | pcj | pwnt |
| 03:50.29 | crucially | ok |
| 03:50.32 | crucially | i think i know what it is |
| 04:00.03 | kd3 | jaxdahl, all mounts should be in the pet window now. are pally/lock mounts not? |
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| 04:01.47 | pcj | pally mounts are |
| 04:08.50 | jaxdahl | kd3, my deathcharger is in my character pane |
| 04:08.58 | jaxdahl | and my winged steed is in the spellbook mount tab |
| 04:09.16 | kd3 | huh |
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| 04:13.47 | jaxdahl | wow northrend going down every 2 minutes |
| 04:13.51 | crucially | pcj |
| 04:13.53 | crucially | next time you are logged out |
| 04:13.55 | crucially | add ?1234 to the end (or any random number) |
| 04:13.57 | crucially | and load the page |
| 04:13.59 | crucially | my bet is that it thinks you are there |
| 04:14.03 | crucially | jaxdahl: that is more than wikia!!! |
| 04:14.06 | pcj | oh |
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| 04:27.20 | crucially | pcj: any repeats |
| 04:27.32 | pcj | im not browsing atm |
| 04:27.38 | crucially | ok |
| 04:27.47 | crucially | then if you excuse me, i am going to go home |
| 04:27.55 | crucially | I will be online in 20 minutes |
| 04:27.56 | crucially | or so |
| 04:52.12 | pcj | ooh new profession dailies |
| 04:52.42 | pcj | and everyone bitching about 80% increase in XP needed to level :D |
| 04:53.12 | Sky2042 | They're making it harder? |
| 04:53.18 | pcj | for now |
| 04:53.23 | Sky2042 | Ah. |
| 04:53.25 | Sky2042 | Testing I guess. |
| 04:53.27 | pcj | idk about later |
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| 05:13.33 | Bibi | [06:52:28] <pcj> ooh new profession dailies |
| 05:13.34 | Bibi | where ? |
| 05:13.59 | Adys | dtc |
| 05:17.48 | Sky2042 | What's the magic word to lowercase the first letter? |
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| 05:19.18 | Sky2042 | nvm. |
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| 05:40.11 | jaxdahl | nice the frostweave bag is in |
| 05:40.40 | jaxdahl | 18 frostweave cloth, 2 infinite dust, 20 slot BoE |
| 05:40.53 | Ackis | is there 22/24? |
| 05:42.36 | jaxdahl | no |
| 06:05.02 | Niat | morning mates |
| 06:13.38 | jaxdahl | sorry there is a 22 |
| 06:13.42 | jaxdahl | but it will be hideously expensive |
| 06:14.07 | jaxdahl | 32 slot speciality bags |
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| 07:30.00 | Sky2042 | http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Kperfekt722#Final_Message wiki banning the funny way. Note that this person has almost not-contributed to the wiki, at all. |
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| 07:54.32 | Fisker- | wtf ;_; |
| 07:57.22 | Fisker- | haha |
| 07:57.23 | Fisker- | i knew it |
| 07:59.15 | g0urra | Fisker- |
| 07:59.16 | g0urra | wut |
| 08:01.47 | Fisker- | the base mana cost change |
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| 08:21.10 | g0urra | ZOMGVEREESA |
| 08:21.11 | g0urra | >:3 |
| 08:23.44 | Warthok | yea just saw. i'm not crazy about her model |
| 08:24.12 | g0urra | I will at least keep the fanboys salivating |
| 08:30.26 | Warthok | Hmm they better have gotten a babysitter |
| 08:31.13 | Pinkhair3d | wait what |
| 08:31.18 | Pinkhair3d | link? |
| 08:31.54 | Warthok | mmochampion.com. Its up now on their pages too |
| 08:32.21 | Pinkhair3d | she was the horrible sister, right? |
| 08:32.30 | Pinkhair3d | the one who was with that horrible mary sue rhonin? |
| 08:37.29 | Warthok | I'm not even gonna respond to that |
| 08:39.54 | Fisker- | jeg skal skide g0urra |
| 08:59.48 | g0urra | ICECROWN MAP |
| 08:59.50 | g0urra | teh hax |
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| 09:37.58 | mxs | If anybody still needs it : http://coblitz.codeen.org/http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/temporary/WoW-3.0.1.8770-to-3.0.1.8788-enUS-patch.exe http://coblitz.codeen.org/http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/temporary/WoW-3.0.1.8770-to-3.0.1.8788-enGB-patch.exe (and http://coblitz.codeen.org/http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/torrent/WoW-3.0.1.8770-to-3.0.1.8788-enUS-patch.torrent) |
| 09:38.09 | mxs | err that last one without the coblitz :) |
| 09:52.56 | Pinkhair3d | why not, Warthok? |
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| 10:08.55 | g0urra | Bibi: http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot081408113510lx8.jpg |
| 10:09.31 | g0urra | A sewer rat with four turtles around him.. I wonder what that's a reference to... |
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| 10:30.11 | Fisker- | damn |
| 10:30.18 | Fisker- | rhonin's armor looks like it's plate :D |
| 10:32.26 | g0urra | Fisker-i: http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot081408113510lx8.jpg |
| 10:44.45 | Fisker- | old |
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| 10:51.44 | Fisker- | Corgan you fool |
| 10:51.52 | Corgan | hi |
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| 12:13.51 | Kirkburn | http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/Dracodragon09/WoWScrnShot_081308_191722.jpg ... Zena the Warrior Kitten |
| 12:14.26 | amro | Kirkburn: what's the goblin riding? |
| 12:14.50 | Kirkburn | I have no idea |
| 12:15.01 | amro | he's still shorter than the troll |
| 12:15.01 | Kirkburn | An elekk possibly |
| 12:15.25 | amro | does look like one, but I can't make out front legs |
| 12:15.32 | Kirkburn | indeed |
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| 12:31.03 | g0urra | Kirkburn: it's a mammoth |
| 12:31.28 | Kirkburn | A tiny one |
| 12:33.27 | Bibi | hey Kirkburn |
| 12:33.35 | Bibi | any idea of where I could find screenshots of the new stuff ? |
| 12:33.40 | Bibi | OH YEAH ! MMO-CHAMPION ! http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/august/anguish_01.jpg |
| 12:33.44 | Bibi | bonks Kirkburn |
| 12:33.49 | Kirkburn | hehehe |
| 12:33.59 | Kirkburn | You can hardly see Zena :( |
| 12:34.44 | Kirkburn | Dungeon maps ... yes, I think they're coming |
| 12:35.14 | Bibi | source ? |
| 12:35.24 | Kirkburn | The patch files :P |
| 12:35.28 | Bibi | filepath ? |
| 12:35.45 | Kirkburn | geh, sec |
| 12:36.16 | Kirkburn | base/World/maps |
| 12:37.15 | Kirkburn | "All player spells now cost a percentage of base mana rather than a fixed cost" :O |
| 12:38.07 | Fisker- | i was first Kirkburn ! |
| 12:38.14 | Kirkburn | For what? |
| 12:38.31 | Fisker- | they actually had support for dungeon maps going in the beta |
| 12:38.35 | Fisker- | atleast they had enabled locs |
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| 12:39.05 | Fisker- | and obviously because i sent in that feedback about having dungeon maps they decided to do it! |
| 12:40.18 | Fisker- | Someone should make a mpq editor solely for WoW |
| 12:40.37 | Fisker- | So it loads all mpq's and automatically detects the newer files |
| 12:40.45 | Fisker- | instead of just one archive at a time |
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| 12:41.45 | Fisker- | oooh! |
| 12:41.53 | Fisker- | Announcement about The Force Unleashed on friday night! |
| 12:42.03 | Fisker- | "Lol PCs suck so bad, we even make game for PS1, kthxbai" |
| 12:44.05 | Kirkburn | My first reaction to http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/august/kirintor_04.jpg is ... why has he got the Neverwinter Nights logo on his face? |
| 12:44.43 | Kirkburn | (http://jenniferism.com/coursework/gd241/unit9/images/nwn_eye.jpg) |
| 12:45.13 | g0urra | ohay Kirkburn, kirin tor logo |
| 12:45.19 | winkiller | lol |
| 12:45.37 | g0urra | http://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/images/d/dc/Dalaran_Tabard.jpg >:3 |
| 12:45.37 | Kirkburn | Sure, suuuure :P |
| 12:46.17 | winkiller | nice |
| 12:48.03 | Fisker- | i'm hurting you Kirkburn |
| 12:48.09 | Fisker- | btw you seen that the token ui now actually works? :) |
| 12:48.23 | amro | Kirkburn: what's with the mana change? any details? |
| 12:48.35 | Fisker- | whiners = fun |
| 12:48.42 | Fisker- | they already nerfed downranking in the beginning of the beta |
| 12:48.50 | Fisker- | But people aren't whining until now |
| 12:49.14 | Kirkburn | amro, http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/8974837994-goodbye-downrankers.html |
| 12:50.14 | amro | "This change was made primarily to prevent downranking, as it's a technique that was never quite intended. Rather than continue to find ways to penalize players for casting low-rank spells, we decided to essentially make doing so obsolete. If rank 5 and rank 6 of a spell cost the same amount of mana, but rank 6 does more damage/healing, then there is no reason to consider casting rank 5. ' |
| 12:50.24 | amro | then how about you squish lower ranks as with war/rogue? |
| 12:50.32 | g0urra | er |
| 12:50.41 | g0urra | there's no lower ranks available for warriors and rogues |
| 12:50.43 | g0urra | afaik |
| 12:50.49 | amro | ...that's what I said |
| 12:50.49 | Fisker- | that's his point |
| 12:50.55 | Fisker- | And that's what i said ages ago |
| 12:50.59 | Fisker- | If they don't want us to downrank |
| 12:51.03 | Fisker- | just remove them from the spellbook |
| 12:51.06 | Fisker- | it saves space too |
| 12:51.18 | amro | yeah I've always wanted to have a clean spellbook |
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| 12:51.46 | g0urra | amro: because then you can't cast lower rank heals, buffs etc on low levels |
| 12:52.12 | Fisker- | Buffs automatically downrank |
| 12:52.22 | Fisker- | and you don't need to cast lower rank heals |
| 12:52.22 | g0urra | yes because there are lower ranks.. |
| 12:53.11 | amro | they could be made transparent... |
| 12:53.20 | amro | ie you cant cast them when you want but they're autocast on lower levels |
| 12:53.28 | Fisker- | exactly |
| 12:53.39 | Kirkburn | There's a tickbox to clear the spellbook btw |
| 12:53.45 | Fisker- | i know |
| 12:53.47 | Kirkburn | You tick "show only highest rank" |
| 12:53.51 | Kirkburn | I'm telling amro! |
| 12:54.00 | Fisker- | But there's no reason to have that tickbox if we don't need lower rank spells anyways |
| 12:54.22 | foxlit | yeah, there is |
| 12:54.25 | foxlit | It's called being lazy |
| 12:54.33 | Fisker- | ? |
| 12:54.33 | amro | hah |
| 12:54.40 | Kirkburn | Depending on spell they /may/ still have use |
| 12:54.54 | amro | then they can just change the spells they don't want downranked |
| 12:54.59 | amro | they're going through all the spells anyway |
| 12:55.21 | winkiller | mhm |
| 12:55.22 | g0urra | btw, is it just me or is there a focus frame now |
| 12:55.30 | winkiller | what about downranking moonfire/earth shock |
| 12:55.37 | winkiller | is that also "Not intended"? |
| 12:56.16 | winkiller | speaking of spells... GIVE ME SWIRLY BALL OR GIVE ME DEATH |
| 12:56.21 | Fisker- | ! |
| 12:56.38 | Fisker- | That was the only buff we ever got, and it wasn't the one we wanted |
| 12:56.38 | Fisker- | :D |
| 12:56.50 | Fisker- | Rogue patch: |
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| 12:56.56 | Fisker- | Yeah we removed swirly ball, lol pwnt |
| 12:57.03 | Fisker- | end of patch |
| 12:57.28 | winkiller | yeah :( |
| 12:57.28 | amro | also http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3945/downrankdeadsw2.jpg |
| 12:57.31 | amro | I understand the chagne |
| 12:57.36 | amro | but higher costs? |
| 12:57.39 | amro | >< |
| 12:57.46 | winkiller | rofl |
| 12:58.01 | Fisker- | it is probably a bug that amro |
| 12:58.14 | winkiller | OOM after buffing the boosting party you'll run through DM |
| 12:58.15 | winkiller | awesome |
| 12:58.16 | amro | Fisker-: "This is not a bug. " |
| 12:58.17 | foxlit | winkiller: actually, that simultaneously nerfs and buffs shamans, so it's all balanced. |
| 12:58.36 | Fisker- | amro it was not a bug to update all spells to use a base value of mana |
| 12:58.42 | Fisker- | but it was probably a bug to overtune the base value |
| 12:58.44 | winkiller | foxlit: how does it buff? I only know of shamans to use lvl1 shock to interrupot |
| 12:59.05 | foxlit | It's now considerably more expensive to remove your totems. |
| 12:59.08 | Fisker- | though of course we have to remember that spell is supposed to be running ~level 1 |
| 12:59.17 | amro | Fisker-: dunno. the base % probably changes to accomodate level, and the result is higher costs at high levels |
| 12:59.24 | amro | perhaps not intended but I wouldn't call it a bug |
| 12:59.52 | Fisker- | nitpicking :D |
| 12:59.52 | foxlit | Plus, hey, you now also get to do damage when you interrupt |
| 13:00.24 | winkiller | not cool if you pull agro :D |
| 13:00.30 | foxlit | Meh |
| 13:00.33 | Fisker- | But before this change they had just done so downranking didn't benefit from spellpower at all |
| 13:00.39 | Fisker- | so it was already nerfed a long time ago |
| 13:00.44 | winkiller | imagine Maggy - interrupting first cast of a channeler with a fulltank shock |
| 13:00.46 | foxlit | When has that ever happened? |
| 13:00.55 | winkiller | s/tank/rank/ |
| 13:01.16 | foxlit | Which gets you what |
| 13:01.19 | foxlit | 1k threat? |
| 13:01.23 | foxlit | PEANUTS. |
| 13:01.40 | winkiller | pf |
| 13:01.57 | foxlit | Besides, tanks can pummel/bash if they want to |
| 13:02.23 | foxlit | There's no real reason you'd be responsible for interrupting that cast if you don't want to - there's enough people with no-damage interrupts around. |
| 13:02.30 | Fisker- | soemtimes people suck foxlit :D |
| 13:02.32 | Fisker- | i remember a tank we had |
| 13:02.39 | Fisker- | he lost aggro on the 4th channeler |
| 13:02.58 | Fisker- | The funny thing is that he left the guild because he wasn't getting raidspots |
| 13:03.07 | Fisker- | And he ended up in some guild doing shit instances :D |
| 13:03.26 | Fisker- | After being declined by all somewhat raidcurrent guilds |
| 13:04.58 | Kirkburn | Oh! The turtles and rat in a sewer I get now" |
| 13:05.04 | winkiller | we had one mage that went through all 10 t5/t4 guilds |
| 13:05.09 | Kirkburn | Subtle, but very cool :P |
| 13:05.21 | winkiller | on his new server he had 3-4 in first 2 weeks |
| 13:05.30 | Kirkburn | http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot081408113510lx8.jpg <-- spot the reference |
| 13:05.31 | amro | Kirkburn: care to share? |
| 13:05.47 | g0urra | Kirkburn: you're so slow that slowpoke got it |
| 13:05.51 | winkiller | yeah |
| 13:05.52 | amro | Kirkburn: oh duh |
| 13:06.01 | winkiller | a rat and 4 turtles |
| 13:06.09 | winkiller | *hint* |
| 13:06.09 | Kirkburn | And some green ooze |
| 13:06.18 | g0urra | teenage mutant ninja speedys |
| 13:06.19 | winkiller | pizza also? |
| 13:06.24 | Kirkburn | oooh |
| 13:06.28 | foxlit | should've named them, tbh |
| 13:06.32 | amro | it's a reference to renaissance artists |
| 13:06.40 | Kirkburn | Yeah, WoW needs pizza |
| 13:06.58 | winkiller | Michelangelo, Donatello, Raphael |
| 13:07.02 | winkiller | and the 4th always escapes me |
| 13:07.33 | Kirkburn | Leonardo |
| 13:07.37 | winkiller | right |
| 13:07.56 | amro | what was the rat's name though? |
| 13:08.05 | winkiller | SPlinter |
| 13:08.37 | amro | that's not at all how they localized it here :/ |
| 13:16.36 | Fisker- | hates |
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| 13:30.53 | pcj | crucially, it did it again, appending ?1234 didn't help |
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| 13:57.17 | g0urra | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8998490028&postId=89209138376&sid=2003#35 |
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| 14:07.36 | crucially | pcj |
| 14:07.44 | pcj | what |
| 14:07.54 | crucially | you still logged out? |
| 14:07.58 | pcj | no |
| 14:08.02 | crucially | good morning |
| 14:08.03 | crucially | :) |
| 14:08.29 | crucially | this is what I do for you guys, I woke up 2 minutes ago, rolled over bed, took up my laptop and looked |
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| 14:15.25 | Ragestorm | Good morning, everyone. |
| 14:15.51 | Kirkburn | morning |
| 14:16.15 | Ragestorm | I'd like to talk to you about grammar. |
| 14:16.27 | winkiller | GRAMMERPOLICE |
| 14:16.58 | crucially | Ragestorm: sure |
| 14:17.03 | Kirkburn | POLIZEI! |
| 14:17.19 | Ragestorm | Policia, as the Spanish say. |
| 14:17.29 | Kirkburn | Crazy Spaniards |
| 14:17.39 | g0urra | ASDASDFASD |
| 14:17.41 | g0urra | beta fail |
| 14:17.49 | g0urra | RRRRRRRAGE |
| 14:17.58 | Ragestorm | God knows how they got an Armada together.... |
| 14:18.09 | Ragestorm | Yes? |
| 14:19.46 | Ragestorm | Anyway, there was an instance of grammar editing today in which commas were moved after quotation marks. While this is acceptable in British English (as I discovered when I investigated), it is not the style in American. |
| 14:20.31 | winkiller | wtf |
| 14:20.44 | winkiller | and I thought wowarmoury.com was bad :P |
| 14:20.56 | Ragestorm | I'm also pretty sure the user in question isn't British, but that's another story |
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| 14:21.39 | winkiller | I am neither, so I pick the right to grab any spelling I prefer |
| 14:21.54 | winkiller | center and armor ftw |
| 14:21.58 | Ragestorm | Basically, this: the [[Highborne]], known as the [[quel'dorei]] ("noble Children," "highborne," or "high elves"). |
| 14:21.59 | Dotted | Ragestorm meant: www.wowwiki.com/Highborne, www.wowwiki.com/quel'dorei |
| 14:22.11 | Kirkburn | That's just silly |
| 14:22.17 | Ragestorm | was changed to this: the [[Highborne]], known as the [[quel'dorei]] ("noble Children", "highborne", or "high elves"). |
| 14:22.17 | Dotted | Ragestorm meant: www.wowwiki.com/Highborne, www.wowwiki.com/quel'dorei |
| 14:22.18 | Kirkburn | Why would you quote commas |
| 14:22.48 | Ragestorm | I've no idea, but that's the style that's used in American writing. |
| 14:22.50 | winkiller | ,,|,, loses it's meaning without commas :< |
| 14:23.17 | Ragestorm | Similar to how it's a double quotation mark in American, but a single in British (or used to be) |
| 14:23.25 | Kirkburn | It's a comma-separated list of quotes, so putting the commas within the quotes makes little sense (to me) |
| 14:23.56 | Ragestorm | Like I said, it's a stylistic difference. |
| 14:24.06 | AckisWork | what does the APA say? |
| 14:24.09 | Kirkburn | But grammatically insane :P |
| 14:24.48 | Ragestorm | AckisWork: I'm not sure, but the Chicago Manual says that the comma should be inside. |
| 14:25.02 | Kirkburn | Whether or not you put a comma before the last object in a list I can accept as a stylistic difference |
| 14:25.16 | AckisWork | Ragestorm: APA says the same |
| 14:25.20 | Kirkburn | But that first quote just looks weird to me |
| 14:25.47 | Kirkburn | I thought the US was supposed to have /more/ sensible grammar rules >_< |
| 14:25.52 | Dakhma | Chicago and APA and MLA are all US standards, so . .. |
| 14:26.07 | winkiller | APAß |
| 14:26.10 | winkiller | APA=? |
| 14:26.25 | Dakhma | American Psychological Association |
| 14:26.39 | Ragestorm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_style |
| 14:26.40 | Dakhma | MLA = Modern Language Association |
| 14:26.44 | winkiller | ah, you mean if all the comma talk drives you insande? |
| 14:26.52 | Kirkburn | Aha, it's actually British English that changed |
| 14:26.56 | winkiller | oh lol |
| 14:27.06 | winkiller | Association not as in Associate for once |
| 14:27.07 | Dakhma | YES! It does. ;) |
| 14:27.08 | Kirkburn | Both used to put them inside the quotation marks, British English moved away from it |
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| 14:28.05 | Ragestorm | Well, my point is that this is happening a lot recently, not so much problems between American and British usage, but with people editing articles for grammar and style, but not really knowing the rules for either side of the ocean |
| 14:28.21 | Kirkburn | A nice little Q&A on it: http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-pun1.htm |
| 14:28.43 | winkiller | this might work out interesting: http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/20080811-00.comment |
| 14:29.20 | Kirkburn | Ragestorm, which article? |
| 14:29.41 | Ragestorm | Well, the most recent instance is on [[Elf]] |
| 14:29.42 | Dotted | Ragestorm meant: www.wowwiki.com/Elf |
| 14:30.53 | Ragestorm | Since most of his edits have been stylistically American previously, this surprised me |
| 14:30.57 | g0urra | beta rrrrrrrrrrage |
| 14:31.08 | Kirkburn | Probably because it's not an intuitive rule, Ragestorm |
| 14:31.53 | Dakhma | Right. Like "it's" not being possessive. Lots of people get that one wrong. |
| 14:32.16 | Ragestorm | True, but for someone who described 785 of his edits as grammar edits, it borders on a violation of the Trades Descriptions Act :P |
| 14:32.19 | Kirkburn | Well, except that one is a proper rule without expection :P |
| 14:32.22 | Ragestorm | *75% |
| 14:32.32 | Kirkburn | s/expection/exception/ |
| 14:32.40 | Kirkburn | Ragestorm, lol |
| 14:33.39 | Ragestorm | Well, this is just the catalyst, because I've been seeing these sorts of things since I got here. (I also recall the rather nasty incident of someone following YOU around changing all of your "favourites" and "colours.") |
| 14:33.48 | Kirkburn | Someone called one of their WoW mods "Its' Death Knight Runes", which I was about to complain about until I noticed the guy's username was Itsnoteasy |
| 14:34.11 | Kirkburn | (which in itself is bad grammar, but at least it followed correctly) |
| 14:34.23 | Ragestorm | The apostrophe is one of the simplest and hardest things to style. |
| 14:35.20 | Kirkburn | Aaanyway, I'm supposed to be working :) |
| 14:35.48 | winkiller | on wowwiki, yes |
| 14:36.04 | Kirkburn | That I have been, but you won't see on what until next week |
| 14:36.31 | Ragestorm | Ooh, classified WoWWiki stuff... |
| 14:36.48 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 14:36.48 | winkiller | I bet 10 of my editr he broke the layout again |
| 14:36.55 | Ragestorm | If it involves lore and you haven't told me, that's a violation of the Official Secrets Act. |
| 14:36.56 | winkiller | s/editr/edits/ |
| 14:37.15 | Kirkburn | Ragestorm, lol, it doesn't :) |
| 14:37.56 | Fisker- | slaps Kirkburn around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:38.01 | Fisker- | i am the slapperer of ops |
| 14:38.03 | Ragestorm | Back to grammar, my proposition is that we loosely adopt the Chicago Manual as a guideline. |
| 14:38.49 | winkiller | i think we should just strike all capitaliziation and punctuation it doesnt really make it more readable anyway so what do you say ragestorm |
| 14:39.04 | pcj | and american spellings? |
| 14:39.08 | Ragestorm | winkiller: how about no... |
| 14:39.38 | g0urra | #132 error threads = fun |
| 14:39.45 | Ragestorm | pcj: I think we can ignore spelling, given that half of the admins are based in Europe |
| 14:39.56 | winkiller | Kirkburn: can we do that for April Fool's? strtolower() on all pages and then replace all punctuation? :D |
| 14:39.57 | pcj | but over half the users are based in the US |
| 14:40.44 | pcj | that would probably kill the server |
| 14:41.35 | Ragestorm | Well, I'm not proposing official adoption, just a stance that if there are any stylistic confusions, we consult one source. |
| 14:41.49 | g0urra | ASFSAFASf |
| 14:42.15 | pcj | i suppose we could use CSS for the lowercase bit tho |
| 14:42.32 | Ragestorm | Spelling is also more instinctive than grammar |
| 14:42.54 | pcj | well the one source bit is what i had with american spelling |
| 14:43.01 | pcj | considering the game is being made in the US |
| 14:43.12 | pcj | *series |
| 14:43.35 | winkiller | g0urra: you really should play some tetris to relax |
| 14:43.49 | Ragestorm | pcj: you've got a point there. |
| 14:44.36 | Kirkburn | If it results in commas within quotes all the time, no way :) |
| 14:45.08 | Kirkburn | At least, you aren't going to catch me writing that way :P |
| 14:45.43 | Ragestorm | Like I said, not an official stance, and not launching a style jihad, |
| 14:45.58 | Kirkburn | I understand the want for a standard, but English does not have a standard form, and limiting it to one type of US English seems a bit much |
| 14:46.36 | winkiller | use pidgin :P |
| 14:47.11 | Ragestorm | Yeah, winkiller, try actually speaking creole... |
| 14:47.33 | pcj | piglatin wowwiki |
| 14:47.36 | pcj | ~piglatin wowwiki |
| 14:47.55 | Ragestorm | Kirkburn: what if we adopted one US source and one British source? |
| 14:48.03 | pcj | yeah |
| 14:48.07 | pcj | british.wowwiki.com |
| 14:48.10 | winkiller | pidgin, not puig latin |
| 14:48.15 | Kirkburn | We have a new member of the family - http://pl.wow.wikia.com/ :) |
| 14:48.21 | pcj | inserts "u" randomly in the text |
| 14:48.38 | winkiller | slaps pcj around a bit with his old keyboard |
| 14:49.25 | Ragestorm | I think we can keep one wiki per language. wikis per dialect is not possible or desirable |
| 14:49.27 | Kirkburn | Ragestorm, I don't even know of a British source |
| 14:50.24 | Kirkburn | notes that English Wikipedia has both US and British spelling |
| 14:50.55 | Kirkburn | If the topic is US-centric, US spelling is predominant, likewise for British-centric |
| 14:51.44 | Kirkburn | For other stuff, there's no "use this" rule afaik |
| 14:52.38 | Ragestorm | True... |
| 14:56.48 | Kirkburn | Perhaps start a discussion on the Manual of Style talk page? |
| 14:57.47 | Fisker- | bakes a pretty cake |
| 14:58.11 | Kirkburn | pretty cake, pretty cake, baker's fans |
| 14:59.09 | Ragestorm | Uther was from a noble family as he was called Sire. |
| 14:59.20 | Kirkburn | (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat-a-cake,_pat-a-cake,_baker%27s_man) |
| 15:00.04 | Ragestorm | "Uther was from a noble family as he was called Sire." Does anybody know of ANY evidence for this connection? |
| 15:00.29 | Kirkburn | "During the middle ages Sire was generally used to address a superior, a person of importance or in a position of authority or the nobility in general." |
| 15:00.38 | Kirkburn | So, could mean just superior |
| 15:00.43 | Ragestorm | Within Warcraft. |
| 15:00.52 | Kirkburn | Well, not within Warcraft |
| 15:01.14 | Kirkburn | I don't think we have any Warcraft-specific rules for address |
| 15:01.18 | Ragestorm | judging by the the usage in WC2, it's a typo for Sir |
| 15:02.08 | Kirkburn | Possibly, but the sentence is still wrong as it stands |
| 15:02.43 | Ragestorm | Well, yes, there should be a comma after family |
| 15:03.02 | Kirkburn | And, Sire can just be a term of address for someone senior |
| 15:03.16 | Kirkburn | It does not mean he was nobility |
| 15:03.16 | g0urra | i can has mammoth mount? http://i34.tinypic.com/10y3wjc.jpg |
| 15:03.35 | Kirkburn | g0urra, o_O |
| 15:03.47 | Kirkburn | Reward from the arena? |
| 15:04.02 | g0urra | yeah it's awsm |
| 15:04.16 | Kirkburn | Drop or quest? |
| 15:04.23 | g0urra | Quest |
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| 15:04.28 | Kirkburn | Awesome |
| 15:04.48 | Kirkburn | Yeah, that's big |
| 15:05.07 | Kirkburn | Um, so I'm guessing not something you can ride into buildings :P |
| 15:06.30 | winkiller | Kirkburn: my Orc can't ride unto UC on a raptor |
| 15:06.41 | winkiller | same aus tauren+kodo |
| 15:06.47 | winkiller | they broke it around 2.1 |
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| 15:07.49 | Kirkburn | Yeah, well ... that mount is a teensy bit larger |
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| 15:30.36 | g0urra | hm.. they're adding armor penetration rating |
| 15:31.01 | Fisker- | old? |
| 15:31.19 | g0urra | have you actually seen an item with armor penetration rating? |
| 15:31.48 | Fisker- | no |
| 15:32.25 | Kirkburn | Rating? |
| 15:32.52 | Fisker- | They're changing armory penetration to a percent value as well |
| 15:32.52 | Kirkburn | I've seen ignore armor on some items |
| 15:33.08 | Kirkburn | ah |
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| 15:35.58 | g0urra | Fisker-, Kirkburn: http://www.wowwiki.com/Leggings_of_the_Canny_Chief |
| 15:36.38 | pcj | that's...uncanny |
| 15:37.44 | Kirkburn | You're looking at it ingame? |
| 15:38.07 | Kirkburn | Oh ... >_> |
| 15:38.21 | Kirkburn | golfclaps himself and pcj |
| 15:38.22 | Fisker- | i'm gonna penetrate your armor g0urra |
| 15:40.43 | g0urra | Kirkburn: yes, I got it as quest reward |
| 15:40.51 | g0urra | I also got this from a different quest: http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Fire_Extinguisher |
| 15:42.56 | Fisker- | Wonder if that is a futurama reference |
| 15:45.15 | g0urra | yay, 145.1 dps axe >:3 |
| 15:45.20 | g0urra | Fisker- |
| 15:45.57 | Fisker- | >:3? |
| 15:46.07 | g0urra | 8/14 17:02:24.218 The Champion of Anguish completed. |
| 15:46.08 | g0urra | 8/14 17:02:24.218 Received 39 Gold, 84 Silver. |
| 15:46.08 | g0urra | 8/14 17:02:24.234 Received item: De-Raged Waraxe. |
| 15:46.36 | Kirkburn | Y'know, I do not understand the way mobiles work in the US |
| 15:46.42 | Kirkburn | That you pay to received SMS and calls |
| 15:46.47 | g0urra | lolworldserverdown |
| 15:47.03 | Kirkburn | *to receive |
| 15:47.25 | Kirkburn | You can't not accept SMS messages, and you often don't know the location of the caller. |
| 15:48.03 | Kirkburn | (for our American readers, in most of the Europe, you do not pay for received messages or calls, only outgoing) |
| 15:50.09 | g0urra | facepalms at Fandy for adding "WotLK" and "Grizzly Hills subzones" categories for subzones with {{Grizzly Hills}} |
| 15:50.26 | g0urra | You'd think it's obvious, but no.. |
| 15:57.17 | pcj | uh i don't pay for received messages/calls |
| 15:57.23 | pcj | so idk what you're talking about kirkburn |
| 15:59.49 | Kirkburn | You sure? |
| 15:59.58 | Kirkburn | It doesn't get counted as part of your tariff at all? |
| 16:02.15 | g0urra | Fisker-: http://www.wowwiki.com/De-Raged_Waraxe |
| 16:02.19 | g0urra | >:3 |
| 16:04.19 | foxlit | teehee |
| 16:04.25 | foxlit | Not Found |
| 16:04.25 | foxlit | The requested URL /Portal:Main was not found on this server. |
| 16:04.31 | foxlit | [ http://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:Main ] |
| 16:05.13 | pcj | works for me |
| 16:05.20 | pcj | i'm sure kirkburn |
| 16:05.37 | Kirkburn | It broke for me briefly as well, will report |
| 16:05.46 | Kirkburn | pcj, hrm, that's not what I've heard to be normal in the US |
| 16:05.58 | Kirkburn | If it is what you've got, glad to hear it :) |
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| 16:35.35 | pcj | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefrontline/2557025/Future-wars-to-be-fought-with-mind-drugs.html |
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| 16:39.50 | Kirkburn | ooooh |
| 16:39.57 | Kirkburn | Blighthounds can be tamed |
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| 17:02.13 | g0urra | who wants to delete [[Scandinavia]]? |
| 17:02.14 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Scandinavia |
| 17:03.49 | pcj | scandi what |
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| 17:31.15 | Kirkburn | ooh, I'd like one of thse tshirts - http://jmorrisonfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=24435&fullsize=1 |
| 17:33.02 | sannse | I don't recognise three of those, guess I'm watching the wrong series |
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| 17:39.43 | Kirochi | I love Mikk |
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| 17:59.09 | Kirochi | infobot, no, atchikatchikatchik is <reply>Aïe aïe aïe ! |
| 17:59.10 | infobot | Kirochi: okay |
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| 18:43.27 | pcj | http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/17181011/detail.html?rss=den&psp=news |
| 18:50.36 | g0urra | Bibi: why isn't The Sunreavers faction in one of the changes? |
| 18:51.54 | Kirochi | PARCE QUEEE |
| 18:52.02 | Kirochi | Jag är man som älskar mus |
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| 18:52.55 | g0urra | this is fantastic |
| 18:53.03 | g0urra | it took 5 minutes to sell a gem |
| 18:53.05 | Deft | hi all |
| 18:53.34 | g0urra | wieee d/c |
| 18:53.37 | g0urra | Hello Deft |
| 18:59.55 | winkiller | WTF http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5275910567&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 19:12.28 | Fisker- | i gotta shit g0urra |
| 19:13.19 | Kirochi | Fisker- my friend |
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| 19:50.53 | Kirkburn | *sigh*, IE7 is so slow - I wonder if this months update did something to it |
| 19:51.49 | Kirkburn | winkiller, that's awesome |
| 19:51.51 | Sky2042 | don't use fail explorer. |
| 19:51.58 | Kirkburn | Speed Runs are always great to watch |
| 19:52.01 | Sky2042 | has no idea what's going down. |
| 19:52.05 | winkiller | ameks me cry |
| 19:52.10 | winkiller | our alt kara is 2:45 |
| 19:52.11 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, I only use it for RSS (I like it's implementation better) |
| 19:52.12 | winkiller | record |
| 19:52.21 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, the speed run thing - http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5275910567&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 19:52.35 | Kirkburn | (the IE7 thing, my first line was that one you just saw :P ) |
| 19:52.56 | Kirkburn | crud, I typed "it's". /selfslap |
| 19:55.36 | amro | punishes Kirkburn with lines |
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| 19:57.38 | crucially | hi |
| 19:57.44 | crucially | how many people keep getting logged out |
| 19:57.58 | Kirkburn | I did earlier |
| 19:58.25 | Kirkburn | But that was several hours ago |
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| 20:13.58 | pcj | me |
| 20:14.40 | sacarasc | i am getting logged out a lot, crucially |
| 20:14.57 | crucially | sacarasc: next time you get logged out |
| 20:15.08 | crucially | go and make an edit |
| 20:15.13 | crucially | (without logging in) |
| 20:15.17 | crucially | and see if that was an anon edit or not |
| 20:15.47 | pcj | anon edits are not permitted in wowwiki |
| 20:16.07 | Sky2042 | ^ |
| 20:18.33 | pcj | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080814/ap_on_sp_ol/oly_gym_underage_chinese |
| 20:18.36 | crucially | i know |
| 20:18.44 | pcj | 'He herself told reporters after Wednesday's final that "my real age is 16. I don't pay any attention to what everyone says."' |
| 20:18.48 | crucially | the edit won't be anon I bet |
| 20:18.49 | pcj | bah confusing names vs pronouns |
| 20:39.10 | winkiller | rifk |
| 20:39.17 | winkiller | rofl, now I got it |
| 21:15.05 | g0urra | kicks his Fx for being retardedly slow at the wrong moment |
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| 21:45.42 | sacarasc | crucially: got logged out, went to edit my user page and got: Wikia is sadly having problems. We are working to fix it as soon as possible. |
| 21:45.56 | crucially | url |
| 21:46.14 | sacarasc | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Sacarasc&action=edit |
| 21:46.25 | crucially | if you reloaded |
| 21:46.28 | crucially | what happens |
| 21:46.41 | crucially | we are having other problems |
| 21:47.22 | sacarasc | Permission error |
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| 22:18.08 | pcj | crucially, got logged out |
| 22:18.12 | pcj | ?action=edit shows view source |
| 22:19.28 | crucially | shows view source? |
| 22:19.44 | pcj | hmm |
| 22:19.45 | pcj | echo |
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| 22:19.57 | pcj | damn |
| 22:21.54 | pcj | http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aakWCWAS_u34&refer=worldwide |
| 22:22.59 | pcj | http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080814/D92IAAJ84.html |
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| 22:34.33 | Eraclito | w00t orb of the sin'dorei |
| 22:35.06 | pcj | http://www.wnbc.com/news/17190192/detail.html |
| 22:35.21 | Eraclito | <3 now i'm taller, less ugly and colorful dresses make me ga... |
| 22:35.26 | Eraclito | cough |
| 22:35.35 | Eraclito | goes back to gnome |
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| 23:16.59 | Pinkhair3d | ... |
| 23:17.02 | Pinkhair3d | holy shit |
| 23:17.07 | Pinkhair3d | riverhead is right by me |
| 23:21.34 | g0urra | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9023652358&sid=2000#10 |
| 23:21.37 | g0urra | facepalm |
| 23:21.42 | g0urra | Pinkhair3d: riverhead? |
| 23:23.35 | Pinkhair3d | points to the wnbc link PCJ posted |
| 23:23.52 | Pinkhair3d | look like they're building a giant resort in my backyard |
| 23:37.33 | g0urra | Pinkhair3d: who? o_O |
| 23:40.46 | sacarasc | Your credit card has been successfully recorded! Tales of this historic moment will be told and retold down through the generations. Way to go! |
| 23:40.47 | sacarasc | that sounds like they're gonna give out my card info ;o |
| 23:41.04 | Pinkhair3d | g0urra- <pcj> http://www.wnbc.com/news/17190192/detail.html |
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| 23:52.58 | crucially | sacarasc: clear your cache, your cookies |
| 23:53.02 | crucially | and then tell me what is up |
| 23:53.12 | crucially | :) |
| 23:53.42 | Pinkhair3d | also, jsut to be safe delete your WTF folder and reinstall wow |
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