| 00:01.30 | Adys | Alright |
| 00:01.36 | g0urra | pcj: you were flying from dalaran to zul'drak too? |
| 00:01.38 | Adys | This archmage is a total asshole |
| 00:01.47 | pcj | yes |
| 00:02.30 | Adys | I was doing the theramore questline, and had to come back from Stormwind to theramore. Because Im enjoying the questline I read the quest text and see that Archmage Malin will teleport me to Theramore |
| 00:02.54 | Adys | So instead of using up a reagent to port to theramore myself... I use one to port myself to stormwind's mage quarter, from stormwind keep |
| 00:02.58 | Adys | And I get that |
| 00:02.59 | Adys | http://s4.tinypic.com/11qmlmu.jpg |
| 00:03.13 | Adys | Fucking asshole. |
| 00:03.17 | kd3 | rofl |
| 00:03.18 | kd3 | that's new |
| 00:04.22 | g0urra | I think it's a nice touch with the tickbirds on the rhinos' horns |
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| 00:40.25 | Kirochi | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/33.html |
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| 01:39.53 | Adys | ~seen mikk |
| 01:39.56 | infobot | mikk is currently on #wowuidev. Has said a total of 21 messages. Is idling for 7h 33m 35s, last said: 'cool stuff. fried NICs is win!'. |
| 01:41.38 | Pinkhair3d | heh |
| 01:54.10 | pcj | You receive loot: [Boulder] |
| 01:54.11 | pcj | ... |
| 02:18.29 | pcj | ding 75 |
| 02:41.15 | Adys | [04:54:10] <@pcj> You receive loot: [Boulder] |
| 02:41.20 | Adys | i tried to mouseover that :/ |
| 02:41.51 | pcj | should've clicked it |
| 02:42.00 | Adys | i got mouseover addon thankyou |
| 02:43.08 | pcj | yw |
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| 03:29.40 | pcj | wb dutempete |
| 03:30.13 | DuTempete | thanks pcj :) |
| 03:30.19 | pcj | np |
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| 07:20.09 | winkiller | what's on Adys' screenie? |
| 07:20.19 | winkiller | is stuck on a text console |
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| 08:37.17 | Kirkburn | Morning |
| 08:47.53 | bleeter | BOOBIES |
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| 08:56.13 | Kirkburn | bleeter, absolutely |
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| 09:08.56 | Kirkburn | "Saragosa! What has become of you?" ... people are going to become so familiar with that phrase |
| 09:09.13 | Kirkburn | I think I must have seen it at least 100 times now |
| 09:11.26 | winkiller | never heard that |
| 09:11.36 | Kirkburn | Borean Tundra |
| 09:12.06 | winkiller | /shoo beta |
| 09:13.21 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 09:13.25 | Kirkburn | You'll see :) |
| 09:13.47 | Kirkburn | Also, Clam Master K says: "Word." |
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| 09:20.59 | Kirochi | kikoo mdr |
| 09:21.42 | Kirkburn | oh wow, even the "!" quest markers drop shadows |
| 09:24.17 | winkiller | o_O |
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| 09:44.56 | bleeter | and |
| 09:45.02 | bleeter | MOAR BOOBIES |
| 09:47.30 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 09:51.13 | Kirochi | Kirkburn, boobie-insensitive? |
| 09:51.38 | Kirkburn | No, I was surreptitiously glancing at bleeter's boobies. |
| 09:51.45 | Kirochi | http://www.amazingjourneys.net/2008%20Galapagos/blue-footed-boobie-galapagos-big.jpg |
| 09:51.56 | bleeter | Kirochi++ |
| 09:59.07 | Kirkburn | It's sad that there are people who would yell PHOTOSHOP! at that photo |
| 10:07.47 | winkiller | PHOTOSHOP! |
| 10:11.46 | Bibi | "Jewish Singles Travel" |
| 10:11.47 | Bibi | ok. |
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| 10:29.19 | Fisker- | Kirkburn my friend! |
| 10:29.51 | Fisker- | MALGYOS! |
| 10:29.55 | Fisker- | MALYGOS* |
| 10:29.59 | Kirkburn | Better :) |
| 10:30.05 | Fisker- | stupid name |
| 10:30.22 | Fisker- | malgyos is so much more pleasant to write than malygos |
| 10:30.26 | Kirkburn | Not as bad as "Fisker" :P |
| 10:30.32 | Fisker- | no u |
| 10:30.49 | Kirkburn | I don't agree Malgyos is better |
| 10:31.20 | Fisker- | i didn't say it was |
| 10:31.26 | Fisker- | i said it was easier to write :P |
| 10:32.03 | Fisker- | gotta talk to someone at blizzard about this |
| 10:32.03 | Kirkburn | Hmm, I'm pretend typing it, and it doesn't seem much different |
| 10:32.11 | Kirkburn | The keys are next to each other |
| 10:32.29 | Kirkburn | However, I type with very few fingers |
| 10:33.05 | Kirkburn | Why am I discussing this? *grumble* |
| 10:34.05 | Fisker- | :D |
| 10:44.08 | amro | ~lart Fisker- |
| 10:44.08 | infobot | takes out Fisker- with the trash |
| 10:44.13 | amro | malygos > malgyos |
| 10:49.55 | Kirochi | This looks shopped |
| 10:50.37 | Eraclito | "i can see the pixel" |
| 10:51.29 | Kirochi | Malgyos could be a Hungarian or Greek name |
| 10:51.45 | Kirochi | though it's the red dragons who tend to bear Hungarian names |
| 10:54.44 | Kirkburn | Kirochi, yeah it made me think Greek too |
| 10:55.12 | amro | it's just a typo |
| 10:57.08 | |Pixel| | ducks |
| 10:57.14 | Kirochi | /Me hens |
| 10:57.25 | Kirochi | wtf |
| 10:57.32 | Kirochi | why doesn't it work |
| 10:57.36 | Kirochi | tests |
| 10:57.38 | Kirochi | ah |
| 10:57.38 | Kirochi | k |
| 10:57.44 | Kirochi | caps r baaad mkay |
| 10:58.28 | amro | not as bad as your pun |
| 10:58.42 | Kirkburn | quacks |
| 10:58.55 | Kirkburn | ^ was that it? |
| 10:58.56 | Kirochi | mais j't'emmerde ! |
| 10:59.06 | |Pixel| | hm :) |
| 10:59.20 | |Pixel| | moi je dis que ce channel va devenir 100% français à force |
| 10:59.26 | Kirochi | bha grave attends |
| 10:59.37 | Kirochi | boubouille, amro, syda, toi, moi |
| 10:59.54 | amro | pb_ee1 |
| 11:00.01 | pb_ee1 | ye, amro |
| 11:00.11 | Kirochi | owi |
| 11:00.17 | Kirochi | 6 francophones |
| 11:00.34 | Kirochi | on peut déjà charcuter les scandinaves |
| 11:01.29 | Kirochi | Kirk's supposed to speak French but hey, he doesn't seem to mind our private talks |
| 11:01.36 | Fisker- | GENTLEMEN |
| 11:01.57 | Kirochi | bög |
| 11:04.09 | Kirochi | what were you on to say Fisker-? |
| 11:04.24 | amro | scheiÃe |
| 11:04.39 | Kirochi | eszets suck |
| 11:05.10 | Kirochi | I was confused when I had to learn German while remembering my Greek letters |
| 11:05.21 | Kirochi | "Stoil béta" |
| 11:05.38 | amro | try cyrillic |
| 11:05.45 | Kirochi | easy |
| 11:06.04 | amro | not when you're using 3 other scripts at the same time |
| 11:06.39 | Kirochi | I had a chechnyan friend four years ago |
| 11:06.58 | Kirochi | chechen* sorry |
| 11:10.12 | amro | russian is fun, I just can't be bothered to learn it when I'm trying to learn a bunch of other languages |
| 11:10.47 | Kirochi | +1 |
| 11:11.00 | winkiller | I found cyrillic chars so hard |
| 11:11.11 | winkiller | greek is nothing compared to it |
| 11:13.55 | Kirochi | 22 letters in Greek |
| 11:14.07 | Kirochi | just can't remember how many in Russian |
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| 11:27.25 | Kirochi | 33 |
| 11:28.06 | Fisker- | i am mad Kirochi |
| 11:28.22 | Kirkburn | I don't contest that |
| 11:28.23 | Kirochi | y? |
| 11:28.55 | Kirochi | This channel is surrealistic |
| 11:29.01 | Kirochi | What is going on? |
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| 11:32.44 | Kirochi | Fisker- why are you mad ? |
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| 11:52.48 | Fisker- | dunno Kirochi |
| 11:53.27 | Kirochi | >< |
| 11:53.34 | Kirochi | Nos you're driving me mad |
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| 12:33.06 | Fisker- | you cannot stop me Kirochi |
| 12:33.30 | sacarasc | stops Fisker-. |
| 12:33.33 | sacarasc | I can! |
| 12:34.45 | Fisker- | nope |
| 12:34.45 | Fisker- | bbl |
| 12:36.13 | pcj | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7537932.stm |
| 12:37.47 | Fisker- | old news is old |
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| 12:40.25 | Fisker- | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/2494053/Italian-mayor-bans-gatherings-of-three-or-more-people-as-soldiers-hit-streets.html |
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| 12:41.51 | Fisker- | g0urra my friend |
| 12:42.01 | Kirochi | You have no friends |
| 12:42.30 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 12:46.37 | sacarasc | Kirochi's mother doesn't like you, Fisker-, she just uses you for sex |
| 12:49.37 | Kirkburn | Hah, people are complaining about the death knight eye glow, and how it isn't very "death knight" |
| 12:49.59 | Kirkburn | To which someone responded with a ream of images showing dk artwork ... with those eyes |
| 12:50.30 | sacarasc | people proving things suck |
| 12:50.45 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 12:50.58 | Kirkburn | Original complaint: The current baby blue glow isn't very "death knight" - it's more "high elf wannabe" |
| 12:51.09 | Kirkburn | OMG HIGH ELF: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/images/wallpapers/wall10/wall10-1920x1200.jpg |
| 12:51.28 | Kirochi | If you wannabe my Death Knight ! |
| 12:51.29 | pb_ee1 | wtf Kirk? :( |
| 12:51.57 | pb_ee1 | ha nvm |
| 12:53.18 | Kirochi | Trolls look stupid with blue eyes, and I'll slit the throats of the ones who'll imply they always do. |
| 12:53.29 | Fisker- | Arthas isn't a death knight lololol |
| 12:54.33 | Kirochi | Arthas is a loladin |
| 12:54.35 | Kirkburn | Oh, yeah, and draenei females have a new idle animation - http://www.dysdaera.net/random/wow/wrath_beta/epadoa_idle.gif |
| 12:55.22 | Kirochi | Last one was "Ohhh... Uhhh... Look at my bosom... Ummm..." |
| 12:59.13 | Kirochi | Does anyone know how to use illustrator? |
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| 13:05.06 | Dark-Fx | This weekend was my first time actually questing in outlands. It's amazing how quickly you replace all your gear. |
| 13:06.05 | Kirochi | Kirkburn, he said Outlands (sic) |
| 13:06.25 | pb_ee1 | Hum draenei's new animation is a bit weird :/ |
| 13:06.38 | pb_ee1 | -'s +dajlma |
| 13:06.52 | pb_ee1 | goes crasy >< |
| 13:06.59 | Dark-Fx | nice password? |
| 13:07.07 | pb_ee1 | no lol |
| 13:07.22 | pb_ee1 | My pasword is k1llmym0nk3y |
| 13:07.26 | pb_ee1 | see? it's not the same |
| 13:09.35 | Dark-Fx | hmm, apparently. |
| 13:10.04 | Kirochi | draeneidajlma? |
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| 13:14.19 | pb_ee1 | Kirochidajlma |
| 13:14.46 | pb_ee1 | The first one to make a correct sentence with the word "dajlma" gets a beta key. |
| 13:15.30 | Kirkburn | ooh, wow, I hadn't seen the new taunka model |
| 13:15.54 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Taunkamnxsuu1.jpg |
| 13:16.40 | winkiller | mnxssu1? |
| 13:16.44 | pb_ee1 | nice |
| 13:17.10 | winkiller | how fucked up do you have to be to create wow-ingame-anigifs |
| 13:17.12 | winkiller | WTF |
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| 13:22.25 | g0urra | Kirochi: I am the loladin |
| 13:22.28 | g0urra | does that make me arthas? |
| 13:22.48 | Fisker- | g0urra my friend! |
| 13:22.49 | Kirochi | You're terran up the death knight? |
| 13:22.49 | g0urra | just do a /who Ioladin on horde side |
| 13:31.07 | Kirochi | halp |
| 13:31.08 | Kirochi | halp |
| 13:31.31 | Kirochi | I can't vectorize this |
| 13:31.34 | Kirochi | please help me |
| 13:39.25 | Fisker- | HALP? |
| 13:57.01 | pcj | http://www.nypost.com/seven/08042008/news/regionalnews/olsen_to_heath_feds__lets_deal_122918.htm |
| 14:04.16 | Dotted | /care |
| 14:11.56 | g0urra | ding 57,000 |
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| 14:26.33 | pcj | zomg arugal is alive |
| 14:26.38 | pcj | oh wait is that a spoiler |
| 14:26.43 | winkiller | why not? just reset the instance |
| 14:26.50 | g0urra | ho ho |
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| 14:39.25 | Vainamoinen | Any sexy admins up and about? |
| 14:39.39 | g0urra | Yes |
| 14:39.46 | Vainamoinen | you one of them? |
| 14:39.51 | g0urra | Yes |
| 14:39.57 | Vainamoinen | woot, then maybe you can help |
| 14:40.14 | g0urra | What do you need help with? |
| 14:40.22 | Vainamoinen | a week or two ago i started working on some of repeatable silithus quests |
| 14:40.53 | Vainamoinen | didn't quite understand everything i was doing, but now i've discovered that i have a page with an improper name and the proper name is taken |
| 14:41.05 | Vainamoinen | but the page i have is more complete |
| 14:41.30 | g0urra | Can you link the name? |
| 14:42.10 | Vainamoinen | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Target:_Azure_Templar |
| 14:42.19 | Vainamoinen | before i couldn't figure out how to get rid of the target thing |
| 14:43.29 | g0urra | Just click the "Move" at the top and make the new target "Quest:Azure Templar" |
| 14:44.20 | Vainamoinen | ya, but that page exists |
| 14:44.26 | Vainamoinen | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Azure_Templar |
| 14:45.05 | Vainamoinen | >_< i have troubles with my noob showing sometimes... |
| 14:45.24 | Vainamoinen | i didn't realize it existed for some reason... |
| 14:45.29 | g0urra | okay, it's done |
| 14:45.49 | g0urra | No problem - the page existed so it would need a delete to be able to move |
| 14:46.28 | Vainamoinen | ooOOOooo |
| 14:47.22 | Vainamoinen | now how i can fix the weird thing with the followup tactical assignment? it didn't have a page before and it looks like i musta done something wrong 'cause instead of linking just the item loot box it linked the whole page... |
| 14:49.14 | g0urra | you mispelled it, you made the page Assignement, it's spelled Assignment |
| 14:49.29 | Vainamoinen | ima buy a spell check for my brain |
| 14:49.46 | Vainamoinen | and i think i figured out why it was linking too much, it didn't have the onlyinclude line |
| 14:54.51 | Vainamoinen | i fail at new pages |
| 14:55.04 | g0urra | It's okay, we've all been newbs |
| 14:57.31 | Vainamoinen | :D i fixed the task briefing two tooltip tho |
| 14:57.44 | Vainamoinen | didn't say it started a quest like the others... |
| 14:59.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Weird, I can only get Baggins to run on the beta if I have Aloft running |
| 15:00.39 | g0urra | good thing Vainamoinen :) |
| 15:01.27 | g0urra | though it's not the second briefing that start the Azure templar quest, it's the first |
| 15:01.36 | Vainamoinen | hmm wrong button it seems |
| 15:01.42 | Vainamoinen | IRC is more confusing than wowwiki... |
| 15:01.59 | Vainamoinen | 0_o |
| 15:02.39 | Vainamoinen | those outfits take way to long to farm... |
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| 15:04.55 | sacarasc | IRC isn't confusing... the people on it, on the other hand... |
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| 15:15.14 | Vainamoinen | g0urra, i'm confused about what's supposed to be done with the followup tactical assignment page... you don't want the various quests it's from and rewards on there? or you only want the complete pages on there or what? |
| 15:15.38 | g0urra | There's Followup Tactical Assignment and Tactical Assignment |
| 15:15.52 | Vainamoinen | mmhmm |
| 15:16.15 | Vainamoinen | the followup one would contain each of the tactical ones tho, depending where you are on the chain, wouldn't it? |
| 15:16.41 | Vainamoinen | except the first... 'cause the first comes from Bor Wildmane himself i'm pretty sure... |
| 15:17.22 | Vainamoinen | oh! it's every other |
| 15:17.29 | Vainamoinen | okay, i get it |
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| 15:29.31 | Kirkburn|afk | lol, I still have my post from Omar the Test Dragon |
| 15:29.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Do we have an article on him? |
| 15:29.48 | Kirkburn|afk | If not, we should :) |
| 15:31.20 | g0urra | [[Omar the Test Dragon]] |
| 15:31.21 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Omar_the_Test_Dragon |
| 15:31.23 | g0urra | nope |
| 15:31.32 | g0urra | Who is Omar? |
| 15:31.49 | Kirkburn|afk | He's the guy who sent you a Carrot on a Stick |
| 15:32.21 | Vainamoinen | in shimmering flats? |
| 15:32.24 | g0urra | I got it as a quest reward afaik |
| 15:32.32 | Kirkburn|afk | No, in the beta |
| 15:32.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Post |
| 15:32.49 | g0urra | :| |
| 15:32.54 | g0urra | I haven't done the quest on beta |
| 15:33.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Nothing to do with a quest |
| 15:43.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Is there no Whisper Gorge ore? |
| 15:44.27 | Kirkburn|afk | pokes Adys |
| 15:44.32 | Adys | ? |
| 15:44.37 | Adys | havent done it |
| 15:44.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Supposed to be blowing up stuff to get ore, none here :P |
| 15:44.58 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Shield_of_Righteousness is quite possibly OP |
| 15:50.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Aye, there be no ore in Whisper Gulch |
| 15:53.07 | Dark-Fx | when's the new expansion supposed to come out anyway? |
| 15:54.32 | pcj | after october, before january |
| 15:55.03 | Adys | and what about the old one? |
| 15:55.07 | Adys | MMMMMH? |
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| 15:56.08 | Kirkburn|afk | That one will come out yesterday |
| 15:56.24 | Dark-Fx | I wish they'd give a better date than that |
| 15:56.39 | Dark-Fx | I'd like to know how long I have to get my main to 70 so I can get to the new content right away |
| 15:56.42 | pcj | ... |
| 15:56.51 | pcj | shouldn't be too hard to get it to 70 by october |
| 15:56.52 | Kirkburn|afk | I'd rather it was done when it was done :) |
| 15:57.08 | Dark-Fx | it is when you have a life outside of WoW |
| 15:57.18 | pcj | Not really |
| 15:57.26 | Dark-Fx | I only have maybe 2-3 hours of time a week I can play |
| 15:57.43 | pcj | what level are you now |
| 15:57.53 | Dark-Fx | 60 |
| 15:57.58 | pcj | piece of cake then |
| 15:58.37 | amro | 60-70 is pretty fast |
| 15:59.16 | Dark-Fx | well, I managed to go 53-60 in about 18 hours /played I suppose |
| 16:01.21 | pcj | http://www.wmctv.com/global/story.asp?s=8783679 |
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| 16:02.59 | Dark-Fx | But in that same time, a couple of my guild members only got 60-62 |
| 16:04.32 | amro | they were slacking |
| 16:04.40 | amro | 60-70 is really easy |
| 16:04.46 | amro | questing all the way, no grinds |
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| 16:10.25 | ralfWORK | did kara yesterday |
| 16:10.29 | ralfWORK | prince wtf pwned me :( |
| 16:14.08 | sacarasc | enfeebled and forgot to run? |
| 16:14.21 | ralfWORK | I was tanking it |
| 16:14.25 | ralfWORK | got wtfzergpwnd |
| 16:14.36 | ralfWORK | about mid way into p2 |
| 16:14.39 | ralfWORK | QQ |
| 16:14.43 | sacarasc | sucks |
| 16:14.46 | ralfWORK | that and shit infernals |
| 16:15.27 | sacarasc | the other day we got boxed in... twice |
| 16:15.42 | ralfWORK | oh we got boxed in like 3 times in a row |
| 16:15.54 | ralfWORK | then the druid said he'd try it as he was allegedly 4pc t4 |
| 16:16.00 | ralfWORK | then he got boxed |
| 16:16.15 | sacarasc | allegedly? |
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| 16:16.26 | ralfWORK | yeah, it looked like he was wearing PVP gear |
| 16:16.36 | ralfWORK | +35 res set bonus |
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| 16:16.54 | sacarasc | sounds like pvp gear to me |
| 16:16.58 | ralfWORK | yeah |
| 16:17.11 | ralfWORK | I understand that can actually be a good option for a feral druid |
| 16:17.18 | ralfWORK | so I wasn't worried about it |
| 16:17.33 | ralfWORK | but the point wasn't to have an outgeared tank tank the boss :P |
| 16:17.39 | ralfWORK | it was to get my scrubby tank to tank the boss |
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| 16:22.30 | Dark-Fx | the epic mount chain for paladins looks a bit confusing |
| 16:25.27 | crucially | ok |
| 16:25.33 | crucially | is this a bad time to break wow? |
| 16:26.01 | pcj | yes |
| 16:26.09 | pcj | wait no its not a bad time |
| 16:26.12 | pcj | go ahead and do it |
| 16:26.15 | crucially | awesome |
| 16:26.18 | pcj | right now |
| 16:26.22 | crucially | it shouldn't break, last time it worked |
| 16:26.35 | crucially | give me a moment, this kind of the breakage requires meditiation first |
| 16:26.58 | crucially | damn u |
| 16:27.12 | u | fu |
| 16:28.08 | pcj | ur mom |
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| 16:34.26 | pcj | kirkburn: http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Brunpal |
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| 16:34.35 | pcj | i don't think we really need all the non-image types |
| 16:36.37 | Kaso | it does seems that any format that can be displayed inline is not appropriate |
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| 17:04.19 | pcj | anyone know where the icons for the flight points are |
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| 17:05.00 | Adys | tried /path/to/flightpoint/icons.blp ? |
| 17:05.32 | pcj | i meant on the wiki |
| 17:06.08 | Adys | I cant help you then. |
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| 17:17.45 | Kirochi | no u |
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| 17:31.53 | Kirochi | Le journalisme total, c'est totalement con |
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| 18:09.22 | Kirochi | Dajlma |
| 18:15.39 | g0urra | Another shit long questline in Sholazar Basin complete |
| 18:17.51 | Adys | grats g0urra |
| 18:17.57 | g0urra | ty |
| 18:18.02 | Adys | past the fact you'll have to redo it on live, grats |
| 18:19.56 | g0urra | yeah and? now I know how to do it |
| 18:21.11 | Kirochi | isn't Sholazar Basin beautiful? |
| 18:21.20 | Kirkburn | It sure is |
| 18:21.38 | kd3 | it's bad... now that I've got my flying mount back all I've been doing is flying around filling up my screenshots directory |
| 18:21.51 | Kirkburn | The good kind of bad, right? |
| 18:21.52 | Kirochi | Un'Goro-like or better? |
| 18:21.58 | kd3 | ya |
| 18:21.59 | Kirkburn | Way better |
| 18:22.00 | kd3 | to both |
| 18:22.18 | foxlit | Un'Goro is .... unremarkable |
| 18:22.27 | Kirkburn | I only had a brief foray there, only to find it has no flight points |
| 18:22.36 | Kirkburn | But what I saw was ... nice |
| 18:22.38 | Kirkburn | Ver nice |
| 18:22.48 | g0urra | You need to complete a quest chain |
| 18:22.53 | g0urra | to get the flight path |
| 18:23.06 | Kirkburn | And level a few times :P |
| 18:23.07 | foxlit | In fact, most of the classic zones aren't spectacular, from a screenshot point of view |
| 18:23.12 | Kirkburn | I went in at 73 |
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| 18:24.51 | Kirkburn | Grrr, I bet my hosuemate is playing TF2 behind closed doors |
| 18:25.21 | Kirkburn | Aaand ... 74 |
| 18:25.58 | foxlit | how do you like the new PvP quests, though? |
| 18:26.08 | Kirkburn | What new PvP quests? |
| 18:26.22 | kd3 | there's a bunch in gh, but I haven't quested there yet |
| 18:26.34 | Kirkburn | I'm only just finished Howling Fjord |
| 18:26.38 | Kirkburn | *finishing |
| 18:27.15 | Fisker- | slaps Kirkburn around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:27.23 | Kirkburn | Did you kill the server Fisker? |
| 18:27.53 | g0urra | I think I'll go do some frenzyheart quests |
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| 18:32.38 | g0urra | Hmmm |
| 18:32.46 | Kirkburn | sup? |
| 18:32.58 | g0urra | There's a valve on an island in the middle of Bittertide Lake in Sholazar Basin |
| 18:33.08 | g0urra | and I get a series of numbers when I hover over it |
| 18:33.12 | g0urra | 4 8 15 16 23 42 |
| 18:33.16 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 18:33.25 | Kirkburn | Serious lol |
| 18:33.36 | g0urra | :P |
| 18:33.39 | Adys | old. |
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| 18:34.19 | Kirkburn | They need to increase pet levelling speed |
| 18:34.31 | Kirkburn | I'm well outlevelling my pet |
| 18:36.40 | g0urra | crucially |
| 18:36.41 | foxlit | Just add some petquests! |
| 18:36.48 | ralfWORK | ohhhh |
| 18:36.49 | g0urra | You're the one doing it, aren't you |
| 18:36.50 | ralfWORK | good idea! |
| 18:36.56 | kd3 | pokes the wiki |
| 18:38.05 | Charitwo | all of wikia is down |
| 18:38.06 | Kirkburn | wikia wide |
| 18:38.12 | Kirkburn | dammit Charitwo |
| 18:38.24 | Charitwo | fisticuffs! |
| 18:38.25 | g0urra | The internet is crashing! |
| 18:38.30 | Kirkburn | kerpow |
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| 18:40.01 | g0urra | sup sannse? |
| 18:40.23 | sannse | hihi, sorry for the problem on the wiki, the guys are working on it |
| 18:41.15 | winkiller | "the boys are playing with it" |
| 18:41.54 | Kirkburn | As boys are wont to do |
| 18:41.57 | kd3 | so, who spilled the beer in the server rack? |
| 18:42.02 | sannse | that too :P |
| 18:42.11 | sannse | actually, it's usually icecream |
| 18:42.45 | ralfWORK | mmmm beeeeer |
| 18:49.39 | Dakhma | Hi, Kirkburn and everyone. I thought this might be a good time to introduce myself. |
| 18:49.44 | g0urra | I wonder what the big cube to the west of the Waygate is... |
| 18:50.07 | Dakhma | I emailed Kirkburn a while back about research I'm doing on wiki writing, and I wanted to let you all know who I am and what I'm up too. |
| 18:52.26 | Kirkburn | hullo |
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| 18:53.08 | Dakhma | Hi. |
| 18:53.22 | Kirochi | U NO TAKE CANDLE |
| 18:53.28 | g0urra | U NO TAKE MUSHROOM |
| 18:53.35 | Dakhma | If you have any questions, off the bat, I'm happy to answer them, but what I'm hoping to do is talk with you about your experiences writing on WoWWiki. |
| 18:54.29 | Kirochi | is a Troll batrider |
| 18:54.39 | Kirochi | gets off the bat to talk to Dakhma |
| 18:54.48 | g0urra | En fuego isn't zandalarian, sorry |
| 18:54.55 | Kirochi | g0urra yay |
| 18:54.59 | Kirkburn | Btw, I can vouch for Dakhma, he emailed me a while back regarding this |
| 18:55.01 | Kirochi | I lurves you |
| 18:55.16 | pcj | i e-mailed you once kirkburn |
| 18:55.29 | Ragestorm | Kirochi, your english is better than that. |
| 18:55.37 | Kirochi | I slept in the same city as you, Kirkburn |
| 18:55.40 | winkiller | experience shows that I'm just too pedantic to let errors slip. main reason why I edit the wiki - because people made mistakes :P |
| 18:55.45 | Ragestorm | Now, Dakhma, what do you want to know? |
| 18:56.06 | g0urra | oh now it's 404 |
| 18:56.08 | g0urra | progress |
| 18:57.26 | Kirkburn | "Wikia is down temporarily due to routing issues" - blame the ISP |
| 18:57.27 | Dakhma | The quick answer, Ragestorm, is everything. But mainly my research is in the area of collaborative writing and technology . . . |
| 18:58.18 | Dakhma | specifically, I'm interested in patterns collaborative writing activities such as reading and responding, collecting and recollecting information, and writing and revising on WoWWiki. |
| 18:59.14 | Adys | theres a pattern that cant seem to ever change |
| 18:59.26 | Adys | Im the one banning idiots for the longest time |
| 18:59.50 | Kirkburn | "Now if you'd be so kind as to get your ass away from my forge..." |
| 18:59.52 | Kirkburn | "That, site, is a mule!" |
| 19:00.05 | Kirkburn | Adys, cause you're a meanie |
| 19:00.09 | pcj | woot almost ready to deploy the flight paths template |
| 19:00.16 | pcj | as soon as the blasted wiki comes up |
| 19:00.31 | Kirkburn | Not our fault :) |
| 19:00.43 | Kirkburn | *sire |
| 19:01.08 | Kirkburn | Dakhma, as you may have noticed, we don't always talk about the wiki here :P |
| 19:01.18 | Kirochi | <Ragestorm> Kirochi, your english is better than that. |
| 19:01.20 | Kirochi | Indeed it is |
| 19:01.23 | Kirkburn | Also, you chose a moment when the wiki happens to be inaccessible >_< |
| 19:01.29 | Ragestorm | Adys, at some point I had more permabans to by cred than you. |
| 19:01.31 | Kirochi | Or else I wouldn't even have found my way to this channel |
| 19:01.33 | Ragestorm | *my |
| 19:01.49 | Dakhma | I've been a user of WoWWiki for a long time, and as a gamer who has used lots of player produced guide and as a writing researcher and teacher, all your work has been helpful to me as a player and fascinating as a researcher. |
| 19:02.18 | Kirochi | Dakhma I just loved being in your situation a few years ago :-) |
| 19:02.35 | Kirochi | That's when I decided to get involved |
| 19:02.39 | Ragestorm | Well, the first thing I can say is that this is definetly a community effort. |
| 19:02.48 | Kirkburn | It all went downhill from there, eh, Kirochi |
| 19:02.56 | Kirochi | I wed a template and I now have many article children |
| 19:03.25 | Kirochi | Kirkburn why don't you go ahead and tell Dakhma how WoWwiki corrupts the self? |
| 19:03.31 | Ragestorm | Only a small percentage of whom are in my most wanted list... |
| 19:03.41 | Kirkburn | Kirochi, I fear I may be a little biased there |
| 19:03.49 | Ragestorm | No, Kirochi, you're thinking of WoW, not wowwiki |
| 19:04.14 | Kirochi | It's easy to get over WoW |
| 19:04.14 | Dakhma | I've noticed, and I've been reading through lots of article discussions and the Village Pump just trying to get a feeling for how things work. The wiki has a lot going. |
| 19:04.18 | Kirochi | I stopped it ten times |
| 19:04.25 | Kirochi | Easy I tell you |
| 19:05.05 | Kirochi | I just feel my stomach twitch every time I get past the village pump. I hate the place. |
| 19:05.32 | Kirkburn | Dakhma, we're aided a lot my the sheer volume of players, but yes - there's always more to add |
| 19:05.38 | Ragestorm | Dakhma: We do got a lot of traffic. In lore articles, more forumish than I'd like, but everything is in a state of discussion, improvement, refinement, etc. |
| 19:05.44 | Kirkburn | Even to stuff that's not in WoW, which I always find a little odd |
| 19:05.48 | g0urra | Lol |
| 19:05.55 | g0urra | I get a quest to get drunk and kill gorloc while I am |
| 19:06.05 | Kirkburn | g0urra, poor things! |
| 19:06.21 | g0urra | NEVAR |
| 19:06.26 | g0urra | FOR FRENZYHEART |
| 19:06.31 | Dakhma | First, I don't want to spam the IRC, unless nobody minds. But I'm happy to set up another site to chat, too. |
| 19:06.37 | Kirochi | Dakhma |
| 19:07.04 | Kirochi | Did Kirkburn tell you about the annual fare for a community team member position at WoWwiki? |
| 19:07.14 | Ragestorm | Dakhma, Trust me, you're more on-topic than the usual stuff here. |
| 19:07.33 | pcj | Speaking of the topic, I can't find where to turn in the Harrison Jones quest |
| 19:07.49 | Ragestorm | Exhibit B. |
| 19:08.02 | Kirochi | One beta key please |
| 19:08.12 | Kirkburn | Exhibit A is Fisker. |
| 19:08.36 | kd3 | huh, site's 404ing now |
| 19:08.41 | Kirkburn | Exhibit A has not been formally identified, and we can only surmise that it may be human. |
| 19:08.49 | Kirochi | fourhundredandfouring? |
| 19:08.58 | Dakhma | Basically, I'm doing 2 core things: (1) looking for representative and interesting interactions on the wiki (talk pages ad village pump) and (2) interview members who participated in those conversations. |
| 19:09.11 | Kirkburn | kd3, it's our provider |
| 19:10.33 | Kirochi | No no kirk |
| 19:10.37 | Kirochi | It's a bad ad |
| 19:10.45 | Kirochi | it takes a 404 shape |
| 19:10.49 | Kirochi | don't be fooled |
| 19:11.02 | Kirkburn | hmm |
| 19:11.07 | Kirochi | just hit maniacally F5 |
| 19:11.22 | Kirkburn | Dakhma, the village pump certainly does turn up some interesting stuff |
| 19:11.58 | Ragestorm | Dakhma: you should be aware then, that we frown on non-editorial conversations on talk pages (ie, people asking if Sylvanas has a new model yet, or analyzing Illidan's mental state), but the policy is only recently enforced, so a number of our more "interesting" discussions are ones we don't want. |
| 19:12.19 | Dakhma | The community effort is really what I see as amazing, and it is what's interesting to people in my field -- people coming together to work together without teachers and bosses telling you what to do and without the promise of grades or a paycheck. |
| 19:12.49 | Ragestorm | Of course, I only represent the lore pages, to take anything I say with that in mind... |
| 19:12.57 | g0urra | Ragestorm: non-editorial is Rolandius's middle name |
| 19:13.00 | Kirochi | Capitalists would call this phenomenon Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos |
| 19:13.02 | Kirochi | :P |
| 19:13.02 | Ragestorm | What is your field, if I may ask? |
| 19:13.18 | Dakhma | Thanks for the heads-up, Ragestorm. I'll definitely need some guidance there, then. |
| 19:13.44 | Ragestorm | Dakhma: what is your field, if I may ask? Anthro, Socio? |
| 19:14.21 | g0urra | Hm |
| 19:14.30 | Kirochi | Wikiology |
| 19:14.36 | g0urra | This is interesting |
| 19:14.46 | Kirkburn | The development of WoWWiki from a tiny wiki with just a couple of pages about an addon pack and a few game pages to this has certainly been cool |
| 19:14.48 | Dakhma | I'm in rhetoric and composition, and you can see the website for my phd program here: http://www.wisc.edu/english/comprhet/ |
| 19:14.55 | g0urra | Something that looks like a scarlet crusade encampment on an island off Icecrown... |
| 19:16.02 | Dakhma | Yeah, and part of what I'd like to do is to use my dissertation as a site for the community to tell the story of its development. |
| 19:16.45 | Ragestorm | Ooh, our development has been long and frought with struggle... |
| 19:17.20 | jaxdahl2 | totally offtopic -- if you are about to be a new mom, what would a good baby gift be from your brother? |
| 19:17.54 | Dakhma | Kirochi asked: "Did Kirkburn tell you about the annual fare for a community team member position at WoWwiki?" Nope. What is it? |
| 19:17.57 | g0urra | a World of Warcraft baby t-shirt |
| 19:17.59 | kd3 | headache meds? >.> |
| 19:18.17 | Kirkburn | Dakhma, just ignore anything Kirochi says. He's French. :) |
| 19:19.03 | Dakhma | lol. okay. :) |
| 19:19.17 | Ragestorm | (Kirkburn's English, there's a lot of history there, if you catch my drift) |
| 19:19.29 | Dakhma | gotcha |
| 19:19.31 | Kirkburn | I don't think any of us here were there right at the start - but e're able to look at the article histories to see what it was like (especially the main page) |
| 19:20.47 | Kirkburn | Ragestorm, whaaa? |
| 19:21.02 | Dakhma | Right. That's one part of my research too -- how the wiki allows for certain things to happen . . . and not happen: for instance, you can't do this synchronous talk on the wiki. |
| 19:21.10 | Ragestorm | Kirkburn: 1066? |
| 19:21.26 | Kirkburn | Ragestorm, I suppose. And Agincourt. And Napoleon. |
| 19:21.30 | Kirkburn | And Calais. |
| 19:21.32 | Dakhma | Is there an official history/historian for WoWWiki? |
| 19:21.34 | Kirkburn | And the US. |
| 19:21.38 | Ragestorm | And the EEC. |
| 19:21.50 | kd3 | nope. it just came in to being fully formed thanks to zeus |
| 19:22.00 | Kirkburn | Dakhma, mainly [[WoWWiki:About]] |
| 19:22.00 | Dotted | Kirkburn meant: www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:About |
| 19:22.15 | Ragestorm | When the link gets working. |
| 19:22.16 | Kirkburn | There is one admin around who was there at the start - AlexanderYoshi |
| 19:22.41 | Ragestorm | He doesn't really do much anymore, though. He probably has dirt, though. |
| 19:22.58 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 19:23.35 | winkiller | back in the day.. when you had to annoy rustak by email |
| 19:23.56 | Ragestorm | Well, when I was first elevated through the ranks, I seem to recall there was hidden drama among the beaureaucrats. |
| 19:24.06 | pcj | I like how the google cached version doesn't work http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:juyLQGK9MpUJ:www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:About+site:wowwiki.com+WW:ABOUT&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a |
| 19:24.23 | Kirkburn | Ragestorm, well, not exactly drama |
| 19:24.40 | Ragestorm | This was before even you, boss. |
| 19:24.47 | Kirkburn | It was? :O |
| 19:24.53 | Dakhma | I've read the about page a long time ago and that Rustak had left. But there isn't any info on the transitions - why people come and go. |
| 19:25.01 | Kirkburn | But there was only Schmidt, Fandy and Alex? |
| 19:25.38 | Kirkburn | Oh, right, Ragestorm just reminded me of SilverSide |
| 19:25.40 | Ragestorm | Rustak was busy, but yes, Schmidt, Fandy, and Alex were the prominent admins when I started. |
| 19:25.58 | Kirkburn | SilverSide, not an admin ... fortunately not an admin. |
| 19:26.19 | Ragestorm | Wasn't he once upon a time? |
| 19:26.24 | Kirkburn | Nay |
| 19:26.24 | winkiller | I only knew Rustak bak in the day |
| 19:26.34 | Kirkburn | Pretty much his first edit was to ask for adminship |
| 19:26.58 | pcj | http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:Z2Kty7TZgmAJ:www.wowwiki.com/WW:ADMIN+site:wowwiki.com+WW:ADMIN&hl=en&client=firefox-a&gl=us&strip=1 |
| 19:27.03 | pcj | ^ has more info on the admins |
| 19:27.03 | Kirkburn | They said no, so he edited massive amounts of stuff in huge spurts |
| 19:27.17 | Kirochi | woah for Wintergrasp !!!! |
| 19:27.26 | Kirochi | Who lives there? |
| 19:27.28 | Kirkburn | The Village pump came from SilverSide, as did the makings of many of our policies. However, he got burnt out, and some of his stuff was massively overcomplex |
| 19:27.44 | g0urra | Kirochi: I'd guess it's titan architecture |
| 19:27.46 | Ragestorm | He was designing the community teams, and he's the one who first promoted me. |
| 19:27.54 | Kirochi | silverside still talks to me |
| 19:27.58 | Kirkburn | I suppose burning out is the main danger of a wiki contributot |
| 19:28.04 | Kirkburn | *contributor |
| 19:28.16 | g0urra | contribot? |
| 19:28.23 | Ragestorm | Contributot: the small child of a contributor-admin |
| 19:28.26 | Kirochi | he's still obnoxious anyway |
| 19:28.35 | Dakhma | If there was any way I could help out on the wiki, it might be with expanding the About page as I talk with you all about the wiki' development. |
| 19:29.01 | Kirochi | g0urra I hate Blizzard, because I will never be able to play WoW again |
| 19:29.03 | Kirochi | :'-( |
| 19:29.03 | g0urra | a guild called <do you speak german> >< |
| 19:29.06 | Kirkburn | Well, whether or not we want to record all this stuff is a different matter :P |
| 19:29.10 | g0urra | Kirochi why? |
| 19:29.19 | Kirochi | school |
| 19:29.24 | Kirkburn | But you could make a draft :) |
| 19:29.30 | Kirochi | I'll leave my compiter next year |
| 19:29.31 | pcj | ~wwlogs |
| 19:29.32 | infobot | You are probably looking for http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowwiki/ |
| 19:29.42 | Ragestorm | Yeah, some nasty little screts lurking about in the bowels of the server.... |
| 19:29.52 | Kirochi | Infobot is getting more and more polite |
| 19:30.00 | Kirkburn | Ragestorm, far fewer than most other wikis, I'd liek to think :) |
| 19:30.08 | Dakhma | Thanks for the admin link. |
| 19:30.33 | Ragestorm | True. I had little to do with the overarching operation until you showed up, boss |
| 19:31.20 | Charitwo | ~~ |
| 19:31.21 | infobot | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 19:31.29 | Kirkburn | This IRC channel started about 1 1/2 years ago by me and another admin Mikk - by that point it was getting difficult to co-ordinate stuff on the wiki |
| 19:31.40 | Kirochi | yes |
| 19:31.58 | Kirochi | Adys showed up and started to screw everyone's experience of WoWwiki |
| 19:32.15 | Kirkburn | However, then we have to make sure that stuff we talk about on here filters back on the wiki, as not all users see the IRC logs |
| 19:32.23 | Kirochi | s/screw/screw up/ |
| 19:32.37 | Dakhma | That's an important pt., Kirkburn; anything I write would be accessible to the community for revision. And anyone who's wiling to do interviews would have the right to ask for anything to be removed from a transcript. |
| 19:32.42 | winkiller | yeah, he screwed everyone. including the wiki |
| 19:32.55 | Adys | Kirkburn meant: However, then we have to make sure that stuff we talk about on here filters back on the wiki, since Fandyllic is lazy |
| 19:33.04 | Kirochi | +1 |
| 19:33.31 | g0urra | who wants some undercover Wintergrasp goodness? |
| 19:33.37 | Kirochi | I'm also lazy, but it's not like I have responsibilities or anything |
| 19:33.41 | Ragestorm | And I recall a certain playable races split that didn't filter back to me in time... |
| 19:33.46 | g0urra | and by undercower I mean taking screenshots of wintergrasp in the distance while on a flying mount |
| 19:33.47 | Dakhma | Got it. Yes. I've seen on some of the village pump pages how the lack of filtering is a problem. |
| 19:33.52 | g0urra | undercover* |
| 19:34.18 | Kirkburn | Aye, I'm trying to get us a better forum system to help more wiki-side |
| 19:34.23 | pcj | why isn't wowwiki back yet |
| 19:34.35 | Kirkburn | Provider, not us |
| 19:34.39 | Kirkburn | Only so much we can do :( |
| 19:34.56 | Kirkburn | Techs are working on it |
| 19:35.04 | jaxdahl2 | demand donations from the community to provide redundancy? |
| 19:35.07 | Kirkburn | #wikia for updates |
| 19:35.12 | Kirochi | I've always wanted to know how wikia gnomes looked |
| 19:35.19 | Kirkburn | jaxdahl2, yeah, unforunately we have it ... but it's not set up yet |
| 19:35.44 | Kirkburn | (something I learnt on #wikia a few mins ago :) |
| 19:35.56 | Adys | demand donations to pay better engineers that know how to setup a donation system |
| 19:36.03 | Charitwo | o_o |
| 19:36.16 | Kirkburn | We have a status page up on http://www.wikia.com/ |
| 19:36.51 | winkiller | oh lol |
| 19:36.52 | winkiller | >In lieu of an admin, patrollers may be able to help you. |
| 19:36.57 | winkiller | I never read that before |
| 19:37.05 | Dakhma | Have there been more service interruptions since the move to Wikia? |
| 19:37.18 | Kirkburn | The opposite |
| 19:37.18 | Dakhma | or less? |
| 19:37.19 | winkiller | Don't worry, maam. The patrollers are here. |
| 19:37.37 | Kirkburn | We were on a single server before the move |
| 19:37.40 | Ragestorm | This is the first major one and only about the fourth one total I've seen |
| 19:38.10 | Ragestorm | But then, I work for a living and go to school full-time, so I'm bound to miss things. |
| 19:38.14 | Dakhma | this is only the second i've seen |
| 19:38.18 | Kirkburn | Yeah, in the year I've been working for Wikia, this is the first major I recall |
| 19:38.29 | Kirochi | Don't worry ma'am, we're the WoWwiki stormtroopers >< |
| 19:38.33 | Kirochi | Patrollers are useless |
| 19:38.48 | Kirochi | I know what I'm talking about, I'm one |
| 19:38.48 | pcj | they can rollback! |
| 19:38.54 | Kirochi | oO |
| 19:39.01 | Kirochi | So you're telling me |
| 19:39.06 | Kirkburn | WoWWiki's old setup was okay at first, but by the time we were moving to Wikia, it couln't cope with the demands we were putting on it |
| 19:39.09 | Kirochi | I can rollback because I'm a patroller? |
| 19:39.12 | pcj | indeed |
| 19:39.21 | Kirochi | I thought it was only because I had a shiny smile |
| 19:39.25 | pcj | no |
| 19:39.55 | Kirkburn | Shiny smile? What does that even mean? You wear lipstick? |
| 19:40.07 | Kirochi | open-mouth smile, silly |
| 19:40.14 | pcj | you put lipstick on your teeth? |
| 19:40.17 | Kirkburn | I'm not sure that's better ... |
| 19:40.24 | Adys | thought you'd have noticed at the wwi |
| 19:40.37 | pcj | silly french |
| 19:40.38 | Kirkburn | Adys, your hair distracted me too much, evidently |
| 19:40.45 | Kirochi | XD |
| 19:40.48 | Adys | =) |
| 19:40.55 | Dakhma | That's one of the interesting things about all the work everyone does. You all put in the time to keep the wiki running and you've got school, jobs, etc. Then having to deal with infrastructure problems on your own. |
| 19:40.58 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 19:41.08 | Kirochi | Dakhma actually I'm unemployed |
| 19:41.17 | Adys | we fired him |
| 19:41.23 | pcj | (aka french) |
| 19:41.27 | Kirochi | bâtard |
| 19:41.36 | Kirkburn | From a cannon |
| 19:41.46 | Kirochi | son of a murloc! |
| 19:42.05 | Kirkburn | I am the only one here who does this as a job, but WoWWiki is not in any way a major part of it |
| 19:42.15 | Adys | how easy to solo is the darrowshire raid quest? |
| 19:42.16 | Adys | at 70 |
| 19:42.19 | Kirochi | Kirkburn are you happy with your wages? |
| 19:42.22 | Dakhma | more time to write articles, then . . . when the wiki is up. ;) |
| 19:42.24 | Kirkburn | no comment |
| 19:42.35 | Kirochi | aw c'mon |
| 19:42.48 | Kirochi | Income must be made public |
| 19:43.14 | pcj | maybe in france |
| 19:43.19 | pcj | but the rest of us are capitalists |
| 19:43.22 | Kirochi | yes comment ! |
| 19:43.27 | Kirkburn | pcj, speak for yourself :P |
| 19:43.42 | Kirkburn | I'm a socialist pig |
| 19:43.45 | pcj | ok, most of the sane ones |
| 19:43.47 | Dakhma | I listened to your SXSW talk (online). Community development jobs seem to be growing in the gaming industry. |
| 19:43.48 | Kirochi | socialist? |
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| 19:44.05 | Kirochi | Socialist Britons are like far-rightists in France |
| 19:45.03 | Kirkburn | Dakhma, I have yet to listen to that. I think I'd be really weirded out :P |
| 19:45.04 | *** join/#wowwiki kd3 (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 19:45.04 | Kirkburn | And yes, community development jobs are pretty big at the moment from what I recall |
| 19:45.21 | kd3 | wth is this? |
| 19:45.29 | kd3 | picks his jaw up off the floor looking at the makers' overlook |
| 19:45.47 | Kirkburn | I don't know? |
| 19:45.53 | Dakhma | If I can ask, what are you doing for Wikia besides the wiki? |
| 19:46.07 | Adys | picks his jaw off the floor looking at the look of Kirochi's makeup |
| 19:46.28 | Kirkburn | Stunning, I'm sure |
| 19:47.06 | Kirochi | sale undead |
| 19:47.07 | Kirkburn | Dakhma, I have no real job title - but mainly I work with the gaming wikis, giving them advice and help |
| 19:47.10 | Kirochi | ramasse tes affaires |
| 19:47.20 | Kalroth | kd3: you spoiler, you! |
| 19:47.27 | crucially | Kirkburn: you have a title, Peon |
| 19:47.31 | crucially | :D |
| 19:47.35 | Adys | [22:47:07] <@Kirkburn> Dakhma, I have no real job title - but mainly I work with the gaming wikis, giving them advice and help |
| 19:47.37 | Adys | read |
| 19:47.46 | Kirkburn | >_< |
| 19:47.55 | Adys | "Im paid to do nothing while we are lacking income for engineers to fix wikis" |
| 19:47.56 | Kalroth | Kirkburn is the fluffer and nipple warmer. |
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| 19:48.13 | crucially | if we poke you enough, will you say some funny things |
| 19:48.20 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 19:48.26 | crucially | Adys: what needs to be fixed? |
| 19:48.29 | crucially | apart from this outage |
| 19:48.30 | Kalroth | Depends on the size of the stick, crucially |
| 19:48.34 | Adys | this outage |
| 19:48.34 | Adys | :P |
| 19:48.43 | crucially | more engineers would not help |
| 19:48.45 | Kirkburn | Yeah, aaanyway, I do a lot of things, which would take a long time to list :P |
| 19:48.46 | Dead_Ferret | without Kirkburn everything would fall apart, including the coffee machine |
| 19:48.46 | g0urra | http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/599/wintergrasp1ws3.jpg |
| 19:48.46 | g0urra | http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/871/wintergrasp2lo3.jpg |
| 19:48.50 | Adys | I know Im a troll |
| 19:48.58 | Dead_Ferret | No I am |
| 19:49.02 | Adys | g0urra |
| 19:49.03 | Adys | seriously |
| 19:49.04 | Adys | O |
| 19:49.04 | Dakhma | I feel the same way about myself -- there's a video of me at a conference floating about that I'm afraid to watch. |
| 19:49.05 | Adys | L |
| 19:49.06 | Adys | D |
| 19:49.07 | kd3 | gah, even with farclip maxed out I'm still seeing some fog in this room |
| 19:49.10 | Dead_Ferret | OLD |
| 19:49.15 | Dead_Ferret | ~old g0urra |
| 19:49.16 | Kirkburn | kd3, o_O |
| 19:49.23 | Adys | [22:49:07] <kd3> gah, even with farclip maxed out I'm still seeing some fog in this room |
| 19:49.30 | Adys | I cant manage to max farclip out |
| 19:49.34 | Adys | on live |
| 19:49.43 | Dead_Ferret | infobot, no, old is <reply>Old things are things |
| 19:49.43 | infobot | Dead_Ferret: okay |
| 19:49.49 | Kirkburn | How can you not max farclip out? |
| 19:49.51 | g0urra | Adys: so what if it's old? I can still give screenshots |
| 19:49.58 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.02 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.07 | kd3 | ^ |
| 19:50.30 | Adys | and you can max it up to 5k or so forcing it in the options but thats trickier |
| 19:50.37 | Adys | though on live |
| 19:50.42 | Adys | i dont even manage to get my shaders enabled |
| 19:50.43 | kd3 | need to fire up mapview and see if it's working in here |
| 19:51.22 | Dead_Ferret | why do you bother Adys? Shades are just... shades |
| 19:51.38 | Adys | because death and invisibility are both ugly |
| 19:51.58 | Dead_Ferret | uh |
| 19:52.20 | Dead_Ferret | tu fais du tuning d'invisibilité |
| 19:53.08 | Charitwo | g0urra my friend |
| 19:54.03 | Fisker- | g0urra my friend |
| 19:54.19 | g0urra | What do you two want? |
| 19:54.44 | Kirochi | we want you |
| 19:55.05 | g0urra | your foot in my ass* |
| 19:55.47 | Kirochi | um Dakhma, as you can see #wowwiki can be seen as the temple of colloquial talk, compared to the wiki itself |
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| 19:56.15 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v DuTempete] by ChanServ |
| 19:56.21 | Kirochi | derogatory terms for proofs of friendship, such as "my foot in your ass" are commonly used |
| 19:56.33 | Kirochi | rhetoricmuch? |
| 19:56.58 | Lehan | Omg O_o |
| 19:57.07 | g0urra | o_O |
| 19:57.19 | Lehan | Hi guys |
| 19:57.35 | g0urra | Hullo |
| 19:58.14 | Lehan | What's up? |
| 19:58.49 | Dakhma | Right, Kirochi. I love those phrases, though my wife doesn't like it when I use them with her. ;p But that's a question I have, too -- how is the tone of articles established? Though, one way I see it is in relation to NPOV on Wikipedia. |
| 19:59.19 | g0urra | NPOV |
| 19:59.21 | Kirochi | I reject the whole idea of NPOV |
| 19:59.32 | Kirochi | I get heated in arguments in the articles themselves |
| 19:59.38 | g0urra | Don't listen to Kirochi |
| 19:59.58 | Kirochi | Ragestorm knows it's true |
| 20:00.02 | Kirochi | he's my boss |
| 20:00.08 | Ragestorm | Not on the articles you don't |
| 20:00.13 | winkiller | doesn |
| 20:00.18 | Dakhma | Is there an emoticon for hands over ears? |
| 20:00.21 | winkiller | ww |
| 20:00.24 | Ragestorm | Not after what I did to the last one. |
| 20:00.38 | Ragestorm | Basically, NPOV is the mantra |
| 20:01.13 | Kirochi | try to pronounce npov several times as a mantra |
| 20:01.24 | Kirochi | friggin hard |
| 20:01.36 | Ragestorm | Kirochi, I can do it in Sanskrit. |
| 20:01.49 | Kirochi | I can do it in French |
| 20:02.05 | Ragestorm | We also try to keeping things in-universe, and other considerations depending on what type of article it is. |
| 20:03.11 | foxlit | I, for one, welcome our No Point of View overlords :) |
| 20:03.23 | Ragestorm | A character biography, for example, should read like the story of the character's exploits and not like a general telling of the Warcraft story. |
| 20:03.34 | Dakhma | I've been looking at the history of the Abbendis article as an example of clashes between the source books and WoW. |
| 20:04.50 | Dakhma | And what things need to be discussed in the article itself. |
| 20:05.08 | Kirochi | Ragestorm what about a player character's page? Do we still need to talk about their exploits? |
| 20:05.12 | Kirochi | (double meaning) |
| 20:05.37 | Kirkburn | It was nice to get Abbendis "solved" |
| 20:05.55 | Ragestorm | I don't give a damn about player characters, you can do whatever you want to make your fanfic nice. |
| 20:05.58 | Adys | woot |
| 20:06.04 | Adys | the battle of darrowshire solo'd |
| 20:06.12 | Adys | finally fucking over with this stupid quest. |
| 20:06.30 | Kirkburn | Good work :) |
| 20:06.31 | Kirochi | WoW gets boring after BoD |
| 20:07.24 | g0urra | BoD? |
| 20:07.45 | Adys | battle of darrowshire |
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| 20:08.32 | Kirochi | buona sera ragazzo |
| 20:09.39 | Kirkburn | Kirochi, if that were the case, why not "ragazza"? |
| 20:09.53 | Kirochi | cause um |
| 20:10.33 | Kirochi | I'm not sure if pazza's a girl, despite the clearly female adjective he/she/it uses as nick |
| 20:11.38 | Kirkburn | I'm not sure if that's chauvenist, politically correct, or feminist. |
| 20:11.59 | Kirochi | It's spelt chauvinist |
| 20:12.14 | Kirkburn | Stop deflecting :P |
| 20:12.16 | Kirochi | ducks |
| 20:12.39 | Kirkburn | quacks |
| 20:14.11 | pcj | wiki's up |
| 20:14.21 | pcj | move move move |
| 20:14.54 | g0urra | yeah I see this at the top |
| 20:15.08 | Kirochi | We got Nicolas Chauvin, you got Jingo |
| 20:15.15 | g0urra | grumbles |
| 20:15.30 | g0urra | Well it's up, but not how it's intended. |
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| 20:16.18 | Kirochi | Ragestorm is playing with his computer's plug |
| 20:17.10 | kd3 | hey, the site's back... kinda |
| 20:17.31 | Kirkburn | It's in various states for various people |
| 20:17.33 | pcj | oooooold |
| 20:18.05 | Kirochi | I got a question for you |
| 20:18.14 | Kirochi | which page do you hit first when you go on wowwiki? |
| 20:18.22 | pcj | Special:Recentchanges |
| 20:18.34 | Kirochi | Special:Watchlist |
| 20:18.38 | Kirochi | damn individualism |
| 20:18.43 | Charitwo | RC |
| 20:19.13 | Adys | I don't go on wowwiki |
| 20:19.14 | Adys | AHA!n |
| 20:19.17 | g0urra | oooold |
| 20:19.23 | Adys | and er |
| 20:19.25 | Adys | watchlist |
| 20:20.25 | Adys | why is blizzard so careful about limiting farclip |
| 20:20.31 | Kirochi | Ha ! Ha! I'm on WoWwiki! |
| 20:20.32 | Adys | is there a possible exploit with it Im totally missing on? |
| 20:23.32 | g0urra | ok appearantly there's some big ISP problem |
| 20:23.39 | g0urra | that's involving not only wikia |
| 20:24.23 | amro | Adys: yes. set it far enough and you'll nuke your ram |
| 20:24.38 | amro | only affects your computer, but you may get a BSOD |
| 20:24.40 | Adys | its not about ram |
| 20:24.47 | amro | I bet it is |
| 20:24.53 | Kirkburn | It's aaaaaaall about RAM |
| 20:24.54 | Adys | no, the terrain is loaded |
| 20:24.59 | Adys | this is handled by the gc |
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| 20:25.15 | Fisker- | http://i37.tinypic.com/8yrh3d.jpg <-wouldn't want this guys job :o |
| 20:25.25 | amro | there's no other reason they'd limit it |
| 20:25.49 | Adys | they limit it at 777 ingame |
| 20:25.50 | amro | maybe they're storing the terrain patches in a x-sized array and are too lazy to do a real implementation |
| 20:26.00 | Adys | at 1600 or so with override |
| 20:26.07 | Adys | and in wotlk at 2000 with override |
| 20:26.18 | Adys | and its not only that amro |
| 20:26.27 | Adys | they are storing the terrain like that |
| 20:26.40 | Adys | but you dont see the limits until farclip around 3500-4000 |
| 20:26.47 | Adys | and thats twice the current wotlk limit |
| 20:27.03 | pcj | now if only images worked |
| 20:27.07 | amro | could be some other technical reason |
| 20:27.10 | amro | maybe blending |
| 20:27.13 | Adys | the fog is just here to mask the further terrain |
| 20:27.17 | amro | or some other thing that takes all polygons into account |
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| 20:27.31 | amro | the fog is there so you don't see the edge |
| 20:27.35 | Adys | yes |
| 20:27.40 | amro | where there's farclip, there's fog |
| 20:27.47 | Adys | and also here to smoothen up the graphic card's work |
| 20:28.05 | Adys | but if you force an override in the core, and put it around 4k |
| 20:28.07 | Adys | the game runs smooth |
| 20:28.11 | Adys | its just ugly on the edges |
| 20:28.33 | amro | guess they don't want you to see wow for the ugly thing it is |
| 20:28.42 | amro | I can't see how you could exploit it |
| 20:28.56 | amro | server data is unrelated to farclip and the radius is pretty small |
| 20:28.57 | Adys | Yeah, but why is it *so* protected so that even overriding doesnt go further than 2k |
| 20:29.04 | Adys | yep |
| 20:29.14 | amro | did blizzard say they won't increase it? |
| 20:29.20 | amro | if not, could be an arbitrary cap |
| 20:29.32 | Adys | well they increased it by 400 in wotlk |
| 20:29.35 | Adys | but still not enough |
| 20:29.52 | amro | id poke them to see what's up, 400 sounds arbitrary |
| 20:29.55 | amro | just like 777 |
| 20:30.56 | Adys | yay skins of shadow |
| 20:31.15 | amro | hrm? |
| 20:31.22 | Adys | nothing, just got some more |
| 20:32.29 | amro | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 20:32.29 | amro | ld returns the most useful error messages |
| 20:33.06 | Adys | amro, remember patch 2.2.something ? |
| 20:33.12 | Adys | "Fixed a crash in the client." |
| 20:33.21 | amro | wasn't playing |
| 20:33.36 | Adys | that was the patchnote |
| 20:33.36 | amro | what crash was that? |
| 20:33.41 | Adys | how would I tell? |
| 20:33.42 | amro | lol |
| 20:33.55 | Adys | the german version was worse |
| 20:33.59 | Adys | "Fixed a bug." |
| 20:34.11 | amro | well, at least it wasn't "Known Issues: Game crashes." |
| 20:34.39 | Kirochi | WoW doesn't crash: it rests.-Tigole |
| 20:34.58 | Adys | dont attribute totally bad jokes to others |
| 20:35.10 | Kirochi | I totally swear it |
| 20:35.33 | Adys | amro, log gtalk plx |
| 20:35.37 | amro | didn't know you could swear partially |
| 20:36.09 | amro | im not on? hm |
| 20:36.09 | Adys | sure you can |
| 20:36.09 | Kirochi | yes I do |
| 20:36.09 | Kirochi | just like |
| 20:36.09 | Adys | "WHAT THE F" |
| 20:36.10 | Kirochi | tain je voulais la faire |
| 20:36.10 | Kirochi | foiré |
| 20:36.10 | Adys | vtff |
| 20:36.23 | Adys | "foiré" c'est partial aussi techniquement non? |
| 20:36.26 | amro | yep |
| 20:36.40 | Adys | "tain" aussi du coup |
| 20:38.25 | Kirochi | voila |
| 20:38.30 | Kirochi | it's a lifestyle |
| 20:38.42 | Kirochi | Swearing partially since 1999 |
| 20:39.31 | Kirochi | Kirkburn, does it hurt to see your channel flooded by crazy French speakers? |
| 20:39.44 | Kirkburn | Yes |
| 20:40.28 | Kirochi | :( |
| 20:40.43 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 20:41.08 | Kirochi | You wouldn't get this from any other country |
| 20:42.31 | Kirochi | DAMMIT |
| 20:42.46 | Kirochi | my sister's singing rick astley |
| 20:44.18 | g0urra | oooold |
| 20:44.58 | Kirochi | ~old |
| 20:44.59 | infobot | Old things are things |
| 20:51.43 | kd3 | lmfao |
| 20:51.52 | kd3 | "Go, <race>! Go or I taunt you a second time!" |
| 20:51.52 | Dakhma | Thanks for chatting with me today. I have to log, but I'll be in regularly, and I look forward to talking more with everyone. Would it be okay for me to add a call for participation in my project and contact information to the Village Pump? |
| 20:52.29 | Kirkburn | I should think so |
| 20:55.53 | Dakhma | Thanks! |
| 20:57.02 | Kirochi | Good tie |
| 21:00.18 | Kirochi | Oh, I got a newsflash about World of Warcraft |
| 21:00.30 | jaxdahl2 | what is it |
| 21:00.31 | Kirochi | The French community managerial team is collapsing |
| 21:00.39 | jaxdahl2 | eh? |
| 21:00.42 | Kirochi | it is |
| 21:00.46 | amro | the new ones? |
| 21:00.46 | jaxdahl2 | source? |
| 21:00.53 | Kirochi | me |
| 21:00.59 | jaxdahl2 | source of newsflash? |
| 21:01.02 | amro | he meant credible source |
| 21:01.06 | Kirochi | I'm friends with some of em and I got news by them |
| 21:01.14 | Kirochi | still unofficial |
| 21:01.24 | amro | didn't they get replaced recently? |
| 21:01.28 | Kirochi | but I guess it's no reliable material |
| 21:01.31 | Kirochi | nuh |
| 21:01.33 | jaxdahl2 | do you mean a Tseric style collapse? |
| 21:01.47 | Kirochi | yes, mainly because the newest recruit is a bitch to everyone |
| 21:02.06 | Kirochi | and she managed to have them quit the team or even Blizzard |
| 21:02.44 | Kirochi | I made a post about it on the official wow boards |
| 21:02.49 | Kirochi | I got banned for a whole week |
| 21:03.33 | Kirochi | reason: harrassment & smear |
| 21:04.16 | amro | bah, they suck. they should have edited all her posts |
| 21:04.17 | amro | payback |
| 21:05.25 | Kirochi | I'll get the full story on the eighth |
| 21:05.48 | Kirochi | (we're going to see the team and René again \o/) |
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| 21:20.57 | Kirkburn | Kirochi, posting about it on the forum was a pretty stupid thing to do |
| 21:21.33 | kd3 | har... I've got a pile of dead bodies in the hidden in the corner of a building so I can take some clean screenshots of the new titan area in un'goro |
| 21:21.40 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 21:21.42 | Kirochi | Bitterness was my ink |
| 21:22.09 | Kirochi | Gandraor's my friend now and I just couldn't let this go |
| 21:22.41 | Kirkburn | It still doesn't make it your business, not something to do in a public setting |
| 21:22.47 | Kirkburn | *nor |
| 21:23.50 | Kirochi | no, no, I didn't speak about their internal problems, I just said that she was messing everything up since she came, and she does her job wrong |
| 21:24.11 | Kirochi | I wouldn't dare bring up the sordid topic of what really happens at Blizzard |
| 21:24.15 | *** part/#wowwiki Ragestorm_ (n=JMW@cpe-66-65-110-138.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 21:24.15 | Kirkburn | And again, not something you do in a public setting |
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| 21:24.30 | Kirkburn | Got a problem with the staff, tell Blizzard. Don't post about it on the forum. |
| 21:25.19 | Kirochi | I do what I want and I knew I was going to be banned anyway |
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| 21:25.52 | g0urra | Hrrrr database lock |
| 21:26.29 | pcj | cache is being dumb again |
| 21:27.10 | amro | Kirochi: l'as tu au moins traite de pute? |
| 21:27.10 | Kirochi | moi non |
| 21:27.16 | Kirochi | mais la meuf à gandraor l'a fait |
| 21:27.17 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Help:Tooltips/itemtooltip.js?diff=1559344&oldid=1558476 no kirkbot, very bad kirkbot |
| 21:27.22 | Kirochi | j'ai pas écrit une seule insulte texto |
| 21:27.40 | Kirochi | Ragestorm what were you trying to tell me? |
| 21:27.52 | amro | qu'a-t-elle fait au juste? |
| 21:28.13 | Ragestorm | Hmm? |
| 21:28.46 | Kirochi | elle ferme des posts à tour de bras sans raison, elle vient aux IRL du forum Hors sujet pour nous emmerder, elle fait des coups de pute à tous les community managers |
| 21:28.57 | Kirochi | ragestorm you said "nooo...." |
| 21:30.30 | Kirkburn | lol, guy on chat in beta is explaining how his level 30 hunter got levelling straight to 75 when the beta kicked in |
| 21:30.40 | Kirkburn | So he now cannot afford a mount or any skills |
| 21:30.40 | Ragestorm | Oh, I was agreeing with you. |
| 21:31.05 | amro | noooo = agreement? |
| 21:31.10 | amro | I thought it meant falling off a cliff |
| 21:31.13 | Kirochi | lol amro |
| 21:31.19 | Kirochi | and agreeing on what exactly? |
| 21:31.38 | g0urra | Kirkburn: o_O |
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| 21:32.10 | Kirochi | Kirkburn this is what we call homeless VHL |
| 21:32.16 | Fisker- | Kirkburn alliance or horde? |
| 21:32.55 | g0urra | Fisker-: I'd say alliance |
| 21:32.58 | g0urra | since his horde dk isn't online |
| 21:33.12 | Kirkburn | Alliance indeed |
| 21:33.54 | g0urra | Hahaha, nice bug |
| 21:34.05 | Kirkburn | Why are people doing the AQ event? |
| 21:34.17 | kd3 | bored? |
| 21:34.25 | Ragestorm | Kirochi, yeah, and you were saying how you shouldn |
| 21:34.25 | Ragestorm | t |
| 21:34.25 | Ragestorm | be saying something |
| 21:34.27 | Kirkburn | Yeah, but it's like a 1/3 complete |
| 21:34.38 | kd3 | the server auto-completes it after a while |
| 21:34.40 | g0urra | At the end of the long Frenzyheart/Oracles quest chain there's a quest where you align yourself with the either one of them |
| 21:34.41 | Fisker- | The AQ event completes it self |
| 21:34.52 | Kirkburn | Yeah, got it just before kd3 said :P |
| 21:35.09 | Kirochi | is o_O |
| 21:35.19 | Kirochi | can't tell what you're talking about boss |
| 21:35.20 | Kirkburn | That explains why everything is almost exactly at 1/3 |
| 21:35.21 | g0urra | and the Frenzyheart one is Zepik the Gorloc Hunter...who is also summoned through an item you get in a quest, and you get it from a guy in the frenzyheart village |
| 21:35.39 | g0urra | which means I just got an easy 9g 72s and another daily completed |
| 21:37.01 | Fisker- | g0urra my friend |
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| 21:38.56 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 21:39.06 | Fisker- | The new Battlefield: Bad Company DLC IS CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE |
| 21:39.08 | Fisker- | THE HORROR |
| 21:39.51 | Fisker- | Guess us PC users are going to be pissed then! |
| 21:40.10 | Kirochi | is it for N64? |
| 21:40.40 | Fisker- | nope it's even Xbox 360/PS3 exclusive! |
| 21:41.36 | Kirochi | hehe |
| 21:41.50 | Kirochi | I wanna play WoW on my Visual Boy |
| 21:42.24 | Kirkburn | I'm not sure I want to know |
| 21:42.31 | amro | if it's about "piracy", I have some skulls to crush |
| 21:43.08 | amro | goodnight Kirkburn|sleep |
| 21:43.32 | Fisker- | piracy is cruise control for awesome |
| 21:43.47 | amro | piracy is just as rampant on consoles as it is on PCs |
| 21:43.58 | amro | which makes me want to shoot that CoD4 developer that complained |
| 21:44.28 | Kirochi | potbs |
| 21:44.36 | Kirkburn|sleep | I really doubt that about it being as rampant on consoles |
| 21:44.43 | Kirkburn|sleep | And I mean *really* doubt it |
| 21:45.58 | Kirkburn|sleep | Not you common or garden doubt |
| 21:46.17 | Kirkburn|sleep | This is proper doubt |
| 21:46.24 | Kirkburn|sleep | The kind of doubt your mother used to doubt |
| 21:46.34 | pcj | on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being really, really doubt, what would you rank it as |
| 21:46.40 | amro | Kirkburn|sleep: well |
| 21:46.48 | Kirkburn|sleep | The doubt of ages past, when doubt would run free without fear of certainty |
| 21:46.59 | amro | PS3 is safe so far |
| 21:47.10 | amro | but Xbox360/Wii? pirated games are all over the place here |
| 21:47.16 | amro | in fact they're all you can find |
| 21:47.22 | Kirochi | Kirkburn|sleep ur mom doubts |
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| 21:48.06 | crucially | is RSS broken? |
| 21:48.07 | Kirkburn|sleep | All you can find? Where? |
| 21:48.24 | Kirkburn|sleep | Surely no retails shops would sell pirated goods, so I can't understand that |
| 21:48.41 | Kirkburn|sleep | crucially, RSS? |
| 21:49.05 | crucially | magpie |
| 21:49.08 | crucially | stuff |
| 21:49.27 | Kirochi | Arr, me likey piracy |
| 21:49.40 | Kirkburn|sleep | Talk sense, man! |
| 21:49.48 | amro | Kirkburn|sleep: it's not illegal here |
| 21:50.07 | amro | since no publisher has any offices here |
| 21:50.10 | Kirkburn|sleep | where is here? |
| 21:50.24 | amro | algeria. but that's just an example |
| 21:50.32 | amro | you can download and burn games for any console |
| 21:50.44 | amro | including handhelds |
| 21:51.19 | pcj | the wiki cache is fail |
| 21:51.32 | amro | they just don't want to admit it because it's easier to develop for consooles |
| 21:51.39 | amro | consoles even |
| 21:51.43 | Kirochi | http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v271/162/66/799130454/n799130454_3672349_8013.jpg |
| 21:51.47 | Kirkburn|sleep | I'm not so sure |
| 21:51.47 | Kirochi | "I'm horny" |
| 21:52.02 | Kirkburn|sleep | The biggest markets are in the US and EU, and those markets are not flooded with pirated goods |
| 21:52.15 | amro | Kirkburn|sleep: the internet is |
| 21:52.27 | Kirkburn|sleep | Yes, but most console owners do not do that |
| 21:52.29 | amro | if PC users in US/EU download games, console users in those regions will do the same |
| 21:52.31 | Kirkburn|sleep | PC owners absolutely |
| 21:52.45 | Kirkburn|sleep | amro, but they don't |
| 21:52.58 | amro | how would you know? |
| 21:53.01 | amro | here's a simple test |
| 21:53.03 | Kirkburn|sleep | There is no culture of console downloading here |
| 21:53.12 | amro | look up a console game on a torrent site |
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| 21:53.16 | amro | see how many downloads they're getting |
| 21:53.19 | amro | and compare to PC games |
| 21:53.34 | amro | PC games get more downloads, yes, but console games get downloaded quite often as well |
| 21:54.10 | Kirkburn|sleep | As you just said, PC games get more downloads |
| 21:54.16 | amro | if games shift to consoles, the pc gamers that download will buy consoles and download there |
| 21:54.18 | Kirkburn|sleep | Despite the console market being bigger |
| 21:54.20 | amro | so the problem will persist |
| 21:54.33 | foxlit | wtfretconzomg |
| 21:54.44 | foxlit | Harrison Jones is alive! |
| 21:55.00 | Kirkburn|sleep | amro, I don't dispute that |
| 21:55.26 | Kirkburn|sleep | Anyway, I do agree with the mian point - that consoles are the "easy" way for them |
| 21:56.08 | amro | nowadays all everybody wants to do is make an MMO or a console tie in |
| 21:56.15 | Kirkburn|sleep | Now I actually am going to bed :P |
| 21:56.29 | amro | good night |
| 21:56.32 | Kirkburn|sleep | Night :) |
| 21:59.50 | pcj | good, night |
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| 22:12.24 | Kirochi | http://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v298/200/95/1158489597/n1158489597_103390_6198.jpg |
| 22:19.35 | Kirochi | Pippi Longstockings is a junkie |
| 22:19.36 | Kirochi | http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v274/200/95/1158489597/n1158489597_88491_9602.jpg |
| 22:20.52 | Slix | Rawr. I want has wowwiki |
| 22:21.02 | Slix | WOO |
| 22:21.03 | Slix | ITS UP! |
| 22:23.35 | sacarasc | so, tonight I finally broke 1000dps on a fight that lasts longer than 10 seconds... just over 5 minutes it was |
| 22:24.31 | Kirochi | http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v249/200/95/1158489597/n1158489597_75541_8781.jpg |
| 22:25.49 | amro | lol Kirochi |
| 22:29.17 | Kaso | i wonder how much data you could store on a vinyl running it through a modem and recording it to the disk |
| 22:29.41 | Kirochi | http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v155/64/10/692811256/n692811256_608115_459.jpg <= o brother |
| 22:30.15 | g0urra | That's your dad Kirochi? |
| 22:30.31 | g0urra | o wait, I get it, it's your brother |
| 22:32.35 | Kirochi | jag knullar din broder |
| 22:33.07 | g0urra | lol kirochi is gay |
| 22:33.12 | Kalroth | haha |
| 22:33.37 | amro | Kirochi: old |
| 22:33.50 | Kirochi | ~ur mom |
| 22:33.50 | amro | that's from trigger happy tv |
| 22:34.01 | sacarasc | yeah, thought so |
| 22:34.32 | Kirochi | I don't live in the US, dude |
| 22:34.40 | amro | neither do I |
| 22:34.54 | Kirochi | you used to, didn't ya? |
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| 22:35.02 | amro | yea |
| 22:35.13 | amro | still, don't you get funny stuff in france? |
| 22:35.18 | amro | besides gad el maleh |
| 22:35.19 | Kirochi | nevar |
| 22:35.29 | Kirochi | we are a boring people |
| 22:35.56 | amro | that I know, but it doesn't me you're a bored people |
| 22:43.34 | Kirochi | In Spanish there is one single word for the meanings of "amusing" and "amused" |
| 22:43.49 | amro | this is the opposite though |
| 22:44.19 | amro | and in arabic there are are at least 8 words for those 2 meanings |
| 22:44.26 | amro | not counting synonyms |
| 22:45.53 | Kirochi | heh |
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| 22:47.45 | Kirochi | Ragestorm, ping |
| 22:49.33 | sacarasc | crucially: what are you breaking today? |
| 22:49.42 | crucially | i think we broke enough today |
| 22:50.04 | sacarasc | i never saw anything break... i'm always too slow |
| 22:50.12 | crucially | we were down for 2 hours or so |
| 22:50.19 | sacarasc | see, too slow! |
| 22:50.25 | sacarasc | 2 whole hours and i missed it |
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| 22:54.00 | Kirochi | g0urra |
| 22:54.07 | Kirochi | how do you like my new user image? |
| 22:54.59 | crucially | what is the biggest wowwiki page? |
| 22:56.21 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_PlaySoundFile_SoundList2 |
| 22:56.29 | g0urra | [[Special:Longpages]] |
| 22:56.29 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Special:Longpages |
| 22:57.04 | g0urra | lol it breaks at 4/9 of the page |
| 22:57.11 | g0urra | the longest page |
| 22:57.17 | g0urra | that's awesome |
| 22:58.09 | amro | why are there ~97 images on that page? |
| 22:58.21 | g0urra | on other things that are awesome: [[Avatar of Freya]] |
| 22:58.22 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Avatar_of_Freya |
| 22:58.27 | Kalroth | "Here is Another List of Many API Sound Files" |
| 23:00.49 | Sandwichman2448 | Is she a titan or vrykul? |
| 23:01.05 | Kirochi | most likely a titan |
| 23:01.13 | Kirochi | child of a titan |
| 23:01.43 | Sandwichman2448 | Lack of metal is odd. |
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| 23:03.14 | Kirochi | Why Sandwichman2448? |
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| 23:03.45 | g0urra | Ragestorm: [[Avatar of Freya]] |
| 23:03.45 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Avatar_of_Freya |
| 23:03.53 | Sandwichman2448 | Titan skin is metal, is it not? |
| 23:04.44 | Kirochi | um |
| 23:04.46 | Sandwichman2448 | She has normal skin. Titan constructs look more like them than her. Unless there is an exeption. |
| 23:04.47 | Kirochi | they are like |
| 23:04.50 | Kirochi | magicians |
| 23:04.57 | Sandwichman2448 | Oh. |
| 23:04.57 | Ragestorm | I'm having trouble loading, what's the problem? |
| 23:04.57 | Kirochi | shazaaaam |
| 23:05.17 | g0urra | "I am an embodiment of but one aspect of Freya, daughter of the titans. I am the Lifewarden -- I was left here to protect this land against the threat of the Scourge. " |
| 23:06.11 | Sandwichman2448 | All life they directly made may be called that. |
| 23:06.14 | g0urra | Ragestorm: the article is about an NPC in the Sholazar Basin, who asks you to help repel the scourge invading the zone |
| 23:06.30 | g0urra | [[Quest:Exterminate_the_Intruders]] |
| 23:06.31 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Exterminate_the_Intruders |
| 23:06.41 | Sandwichman2448 | If she said /a/ titan. |
| 23:07.11 | amro | one aspect |
| 23:07.18 | amro | therefore a different appearance |
| 23:07.27 | g0urra | ^ |
| 23:07.52 | Ragestorm | We've not heard of her before, but LIFEwarden suggests she's Eonar's daughter. |
| 23:07.57 | g0urra | We might see different aspects of this Freya in Storm Peaks |
| 23:08.04 | g0urra | and Icecrown |
| 23:08.14 | Sandwichman2448 | Airships. |
| 23:08.25 | Ragestorm | "Safari canât open the page âhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Avatar_of_Freyaâ because the server unexpectedly dropped the connection, which sometimes occurs when the server is busy. You might be able to open the page later" |
| 23:08.26 | g0urra | And probably Wintergrasp too |
| 23:08.49 | g0urra | also, Ragestorm: [[Quest:Freya's_Pact]] |
| 23:08.50 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Freya's_Pact |
| 23:09.09 | g0urra | Explains a little more of the connection between the titans and Sholazar Basin |
| 23:09.12 | Ragestorm | "Server is busy." Why can't it just say "couldn't load because your connection is wonky? |
| 23:09.34 | Sandwichman2448 | Why are players smashing up a titan keep? The Explorer's League must be having a fit. |
| 23:09.50 | Kirochi | ragestorm |
| 23:09.54 | Kirochi | get a PC |
| 23:09.57 | Ragestorm | Yeah, I'm not getting through to the wiki at all |
| 23:10.00 | Ragestorm | I have a PC |
| 23:10.07 | Kirochi | then get a real browser |
| 23:10.25 | Ragestorm | It's my network, I've been having trouble all weekend. |
| 23:10.40 | Kirochi | ah well |
| 23:10.49 | Ragestorm | Try getting all the facts before you accuse. |
| 23:11.01 | Kirochi | I just thought all those disconnections were due to your playing with your computer plug |
| 23:11.39 | Ragestorm | No, it's the network. |
| 23:12.25 | Kirochi | Ragestorm accusing someone after having thought everything out is not half as funny |
| 23:13.00 | *** join/#wowwiki Ragestorm_ (n=JMW@cpe-66-65-110-138.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:13.11 | Ragestorm_ | And that was Exhibit B... |
| 23:13.13 | Ragestorm_ | And I have a PC. I think a MacBook counts as a Personal Computer, don't you? :D |
| 23:13.39 | g0urra | Amro: get a boilerplate textfile |
| 23:13.58 | Kirochi | um |
| 23:14.38 | Kirochi | why is safari all blurry? |
| 23:16.36 | Kirochi | or mebbe it's my eyes |
| 23:16.37 | Kirochi | late it is |
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| 23:17.51 | amro|afk | bedtime. goodnight |
| 23:18.48 | Kirochi | http://www.wow-europe.com/ru/index.xml |
| 23:18.55 | Kirochi | Dobro pojalovat! |
| 23:19.49 | Sandwichman2448 | Zeal is quitting? http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#I.27m_back |
| 23:20.10 | sacarasc | i enjowed Zeal on the IRC |
| 23:20.17 | sacarasc | he was funny |
| 23:21.22 | Kirochi | guys |
| 23:21.28 | Kirochi | Morgan Freeman is going to die |
| 23:21.35 | g0urra | ;___: |
| 23:21.46 | sacarasc | Kirochi: everyone is |
| 23:23.35 | Kirochi | lol |
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| 23:23.49 | g0urra | "Morgan Freeman Is in 'Good Spirits' After Accident" |
| 23:23.55 | g0urra | http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20216859,00.html |
| 23:24.07 | Kirochi | sweet |
| 23:24.15 | Sandwichman2448 | Not to break to mood, but how do I gain user interest in a project? |
| 23:24.22 | g0urra | "He has a broken arm, broken elbow and minor shoulder damage but he is in good spirits," said Donna Lee. |
| 23:24.38 | g0urra | Sandwichman2448: the village pump usually works |
| 23:25.05 | Sandwichman2448 | It could be seen as vain self-promotion. |
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| 23:27.44 | Sandwichman2448 | Well, i will try it. |
| 23:37.35 | Kaso | <Kirochi> http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v249/200/95/1158489597/n1158489597_75541_8781.jpg |
| 23:37.36 | Kaso | <Kaso> i wonder how much data you could store on a vinyl running it through a modem and recording it to the disk |
| 23:37.58 | Kaso | Some maths later i can tell you that you can put 187KB on a LP record |
| 23:38.52 | Kaso | which means you'd need 14309 12" LP records to fit the x86 version of windows vista installer on. |
| 23:42.50 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Promoting_my_RTS_project |
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| 23:48.03 | Sandwichman2448 | How it that? |
| 23:48.16 | Sandwichman2448 | s/it/is/ |
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