IRC log for #wowwiki on 20080725

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00:05.58Adys[02:51:33] <Magathor> I want a new realm to play on. :(
00:06.00AdysI want diablo 3
00:08.27Adys~ping
00:08.28infobotpong
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00:18.16Morenoanyone here?
00:18.26pcjno
00:18.31Morenokk
00:18.40pcjoh whoa where did the other 72 people come from
00:18.47Magathor73*
00:18.56Morenowell it's cinda quiet
00:19.04Magathoryou ruined our quiet
00:19.20Morenoinorite
00:19.28Magathori have a question
00:19.35Magathordo you know that kinda starts with a k?
00:19.58Morenoi didnt
00:20.09Magathorif you didn't know that then you are not welcome here
00:20.12Magathorwe're nothing but elitists
00:20.34Moreno:( my highest wow char is a level 54 warrior tho!
00:21.08Magathorthats too bad
00:21.18Magathoryou can stay.. i guess
00:21.47Morenoawesome :D so what's going on here
00:22.54Magathorwhat was it like when you came in here?
00:23.05Morenoquiet, no fun
00:23.12MagathorThat is whats going on.
00:23.24Morenothen lets make it fun
00:23.27MagathorNo.
00:23.49Morenowhy not
00:24.05Moreno74 online, yet only 2 talking, thats lame
00:24.44pcji count 3 talking
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00:25.08pcjinfobot, what about you
00:25.08infobotI count 4
00:25.26MagathorDotted, what about you?
00:25.27Morenohmh, i was wrong..
00:25.47DottedI count 1337
00:25.58DottedI'm just slower than infobot, sorry :(
00:26.01Magathor:(
00:26.06Morenol2p issue
00:26.11Magathorgtfo
00:27.05MagathorYou do know that none of us play woW, right?
00:27.19MagathorThe really #wowwiki is on quakenet. We just put this server here to fool you.
00:27.36MorenoI dont play WoW retail neither
00:27.44MagathorPrivate server?
00:28.00MorenoYe, sometimes.
00:28.02MorenoBut I rather play Pro evo 2008 or madden 2008
00:28.02MagathorThats against the ToS.
00:28.46MorenoWhat now?
00:29.35MagathorPrivate servers.
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00:30.53Magathorwell that was fun.
00:30.59MagathorI should be a cop.
00:31.37pcjand get two girls
00:31.43pcjand you could be two girls and one cop
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00:32.27foxlitIt's ironic, though
00:32.38foxlitIf you're not playing on the official servers, the ToS does not apply to you
00:32.57foxlitSince there is, technically, no service.
00:33.26kd3you had to get the client somehow and you've gotta agree to the tos/eula in order to use the client...
00:34.03foxliteula yes, tos no
00:34.23foxlitthe trick, of course, is that there is no ToS
00:34.51Sky2042_afkyou know, you could have simply told him that there's no talk of PSs here...
00:36.28MagathorI prefer when people get kicked.
00:36.39MagathorIt makes my sad little life have meaning.
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00:40.40KirkburnWhat Sky2042_afk said
00:40.59Sky2042_afkcheers.
00:41.15KirkburnIts hardly breaking new ground for me :P
00:41.42Sky2042You're one of the few where that is the case.
00:41.46Sky2042>.>
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00:42.38pcj!jobqueue
00:42.39DottedThe job queue length is currently 8403
00:49.33MagathorWhat class should I reroll, and where?
00:50.00pcjdeath knight, beta server
00:50.03selckinwhats the queue of?
00:50.06MagathorI want to, very bad./
01:00.48MagathorWhat is the least killed mob in the game?
01:06.11KirkburnAt a guess, Kil'jaeden
01:06.38KirkburnOutside an instance, maybe something in Desolace
01:07.21MagathorWell, of course Kil'jaeden for instances.
01:07.34MagathorAnd Desolace is the only zone to ever have accomplished what it's name is.
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01:09.05Adys~ping
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01:09.09Pinkhair3dI like desolace
01:09.40MagathorI hate it.
01:09.51Pinkhair3dleast killed outside of an instance, probably that giant shark for thegates of AQ quest chain
01:17.50KasoI dont know, that mob is killed at very least once per server
01:18.15KasoIm sure there is some abstract vendor out of the way in a city thats never killed
01:18.32Kasoin a captial city
01:18.47pcjwell the mobs you can't kill of course
01:18.49Sky2042Kaso: No, that fish hasn't been killed on every server, as some servers came online with the gates open already IIRC.
01:18.53pcjrevelers and children
01:19.02Kasook, well most
01:19.10Kasopcj, they dont count!
01:21.42MagathorI know what song is gonan be in every single DK pvp video...
01:21.49MagathorThe Four Horsemen by Metallica
01:22.18pcjno
01:22.56MagathorYou know it to be true, look in your heart.
01:32.30Sky2042where's foxlit.
01:32.35Sky2042I win.
01:32.39Sky2042I win I win I win.
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01:34.49MagathorI'm gonna petition to have a secret dance hall filled with friendly Scourge doing the Thriller dance.
01:35.00MagathorPreferably in or near Icecrown.
01:35.46Sky2042Can I dance?
01:36.10MagathorMaybe.
01:39.51pcj_2lol
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01:39.59pcjrofl
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01:40.36Sky2042_afkSky2042: Would you like to leave forcibly? :)
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01:40.55Sky2042:(
01:41.13pcjwhoops wrong one
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01:41.53MagathorI petition to have tour mod rights removed! Power Abuse!
01:41.59Magathoryour*
01:42.07Sky2042He kicked me first. :(
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01:42.19Magathor:(
01:42.19Sky2042thanks Adys.
01:42.24Adysill show you power abuse
01:42.26Adysshut up sky
01:42.37Sky2042whyyyyyyyyy?
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01:42.44Magathorwhy not?
01:42.59Sky2042pcj: skiit skiit.
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01:43.33Magathorskeet skeet*
01:49.14Adyspcj
01:49.14Adyshttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8402640451&postId=84018644073&sid=2003#3
01:49.17Adysi thought of you
02:02.10pcjindeed
02:05.56kd3wtf... [[Staff of the Purposeful Mendicant]]
02:05.57Dottedkd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Staff_of_the_Purposeful_Mendicant
02:06.16kd32h staff, 199 spell power, 37 haste...
02:06.22kd3borean tundra quest reward
02:07.36pcjwhat
02:10.21Eraclito1 spell power = 1 bonus spell damage?
02:10.33kd3yes. and nearly 2 healing
02:10.36kd3something like 1.89
02:10.49Sky2042o_o
02:11.28Sky2042wth: http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:ProblemReports/12244
02:11.47Magathoryou know what spell power means for priests and balance druids?
02:12.00Magathora shadow priest can go holy any time he wants and still heal effectively. same for resto druids.
02:12.01kd3they're op. indeed
02:12.17Sky2042I'm rather sure it will be tweaked :/
02:17.01MagathorHmm, for WotLK shouldn't V have it's own page, or completely redo the Spell damage and healing page?
02:17.06Magathorhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Spellpower
02:17.07Magathor*
02:17.38kd3hey pcj, any way we can change the quest tooltips to show the type tag (like group, daily) and such? there's no indication in the tt as it stands now.
02:17.53pcjmmm
02:18.04pcjis type tag in questbox
02:18.08kd3yes
02:18.16kd3[[Quest:Last Rites]]
02:18.16Dottedkd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Last_Rites
02:19.12pcjhmm
02:21.09Magathorand kd3, did you ever clarify what high priest whatshisname was?
02:21.16kd3ya
02:21.30Magathorhe seems to be like prince keleseth, hence him being darkfallen. all blood elves scourge related are considered darkfallen.
02:21.30Magathoroh.
02:21.32kd3turns out he is darkfallen because one of the pathing mobs with darkfallen in his name has the same model
02:22.25Magathorso, thats a good indicator if you come across any more, all blodo elves in the scourge are considered darkfelln.
02:22.48kd3more than likely
02:25.46Magathorkd, you been to Naxxanar or whatever yet?
02:25.54kd3just finished it
02:26.01pcj~jobqueue
02:26.02infobot!jobqueue
02:26.02kd3points to his last link
02:26.03DottedThe job queue length is currently 15486
02:26.10Magathortouched
02:26.12Magathortouche*
02:26.16pcjok kd3 once the questbox edits make it through i'll add it
02:26.22kd3kk, thanks
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02:46.23SHRIVES23everytime i install the 2.4.0 firmware it freezes on 1%, any ideas?
02:46.38kd3make sure you don't have any security software interfering
02:46.44kd3and that you have enough free space
02:47.19MagathorNesingwary has 1 s or 2?
02:47.24kd32
02:47.26Magathork
02:47.54SHRIVES23I opened the port for the downloader, I guess ill try and get rid of all the virus software that is trying to interfere
02:48.14kd3are you just trying to download it or is it done downloading?
02:49.05kd3you may want to check [[Patch mirrors]] and download it using your web browser if you're having problems with the blizz downloader
02:49.07Dottedkd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors
02:49.25Magathorwow @ the stam on [[Clam Collector Gauntlets]]
02:49.26DottedMagathor meant: www.wowwiki.com/Clam_Collector_Gauntlets
02:49.45kd3I did put 58 stam, right?
02:50.00MagathorYep
02:50.58MagathorPreparing for tehe Worst, fixed it for you
03:09.42Adyswhats wrong with 58 stam?
03:09.59AdysI mean I got some lvl 71 leather pants with 80 stam here quest reward
03:10.14Adysgreen
03:10.15Adys:/
03:13.54Magathornah, just haven't see something with that much stam as a green unless it's of Stamina
03:19.59Sky2042Adys: They're gloves. Recall they aren't allocated the same percentage of the ilvl.
03:20.07Sky2042as legs*
03:20.15Adysso?
03:20.16Adysdo some maths
03:20.17Adys:P
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03:34.17kd3rofl, they finally added a server alert reminding people to use their blizz account login, not their wow account
03:42.45Corganlol
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04:11.48Arrowmaster?
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04:42.24Pinkhair3dI need a good in-game location for a wedding
04:42.27Pinkhair3dany suggestions?
04:42.33Pinkhair3dno major cities
04:43.09pcjtyr's hand
04:43.52Pinkhair3dhrm, more of a less hostile place.  preferably in kalimdor
04:44.13pcjsteamwheedle port
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05:11.01kd3updates his templates again
05:11.09Sky2042kd3?
05:11.20kd3any other category merges other than <qual> quest rewards and <qual> quest items?
05:11.55Sky2042Not at the moment I don't think.
05:16.26kd3oh wow. I shattered the 10k barrier... getting close to 13
05:27.47Dottedwow never expected someone called Pinkhair3d to be an RP guy :o
05:44.24Adysrofl Dotted
05:46.21Adyshahah
05:46.24AdysSacred Mojo
05:46.34Adys"A bit stickier than your average mojo."
05:52.56Pinkhair3dhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/MoireMortemaine/wedding-01.jpg
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06:42.43Adys~ping
06:42.44infobotpong
06:49.22Pinkhair3dDotted- what do you mean?
06:49.33Dottedlol
06:50.24Pinkhair3dis confused
06:54.15LukianIs old-naxx still raidable in WLK?
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07:59.42fricLukian: nope. don't think so. cause the naxxramas has moved... or something
07:59.51Lukian:/
08:00.01Lukianfew months to actually check it out then, I guess
08:00.22fricit'll probably looka bout the same though :)
08:00.39Lukianboss-wise?
08:02.52fricno, but the layout
08:03.02fricwith different wings and stuff
08:03.20fricalthough, I don't base that on anything ^_^ that's just my guess
08:04.27fricbut I think they said they have to re-do the bosses to adjust them for 10- and 25-man raids instead of 40
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08:34.33Pinkhair3dyes, polarity won't be nearly as awesome with only 10 men
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08:43.50Adys[11:34:33] <Pinkhair3d> yes, polarity won't be nearly as awesome with only 10 men
08:43.52Adysqft
08:52.24fricyeah, lol
08:52.54fricalot will be different
08:53.48fricespecially when it comes to expecting a ceratin amount of a certain class
08:54.04friclite kiting, minding controlling etc
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10:19.10Fisker-Chompers
10:21.29MagathorI want coffee but I don't want to make it.
10:21.29Magathor:(
10:21.44AdysI made one you can have it
10:21.49Magathork mail it to me
10:22.06Adyssure whats your email
10:22.13Magathorwhat
10:22.18MagathorI don't like cyber coffee
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10:25.09OlisonBut it's delicious!
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10:31.23Adyshttp://s4.tinypic.com/34e72w6.jpg
10:31.28Adysgrizzlemaw looks fucking amazing
10:31.32foxlitkeylogger!
10:31.54foxlit2x multismapling? :)
10:31.59foxlits/ma/am/
10:32.04Adys4x
10:32.20Adysopengl doesnt have as good multisample as d3d
10:32.46foxlitIt's not jagged, but edges still look a bit odd.
10:32.58Adysthats the angle i think
10:34.43Pinkhair3dhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/MoireMortemaine/itsaboy.jpg
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10:36.43foxlitkicks Coldarra
10:36.50Adyskicks back
10:37.05Magathordoes an emote to fit in
10:37.10Fisker-~kiss foxlit
10:37.10infobotACTION forces foxlit to give fric a big kiss on the forhead
10:37.13foxlitPray for your world server, because you won't be getting a character list back :)
10:38.18Fisker-got booted now
10:40.16Fisker-char list worked though
10:42.15Adysalright its funny
10:42.25Adyscoldarra, nothing works apart from the northrend world server
10:42.32Fisker-world server, not so much
10:42.34Adyseveryone his turn :P
10:42.43Adysyes Im in grizzly hills quite fine
10:44.00Fisker-<-Danish Death Knight of Denmark so i'm in outland
10:44.03Fisker-;_;
10:44.22Fisker-gonna need someone to do ring of blood soon :P
10:44.30Fisker-i'll pay great money!
10:45.49Adyshere goes the world serv :)
10:46.21amrobeta money = useless
10:46.37amro~epic fail firefox
10:46.37infobotfirefox, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you firefox, you are that epic failure.
10:48.20Adys~epic fail pidgin
10:48.21infobotpidgin, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you pidgin, you are that epic failure.
10:48.34foxlitSo, wonder when they'll end up splitting the beta servers a bit
10:48.45Adysat the release
10:48.47Adysoh wait.
10:49.17Adysi think getting as many people on as possible is one of the points of this beta
10:49.27Adysotherwise there'd only be an alpha :)
10:49.41foxlitIt's practically done with that, though
10:49.52Adyswhat do you mean?
10:50.00amrounfortunately they don't use it to fix bugs, they use it to prepare excuses and GM responses
10:50.14Fisker-~epic win Internet Explorer
10:50.19Fisker-;_;
10:50.23foxlitServers are currently in no shape to go to production with this - either there's too much locally concentrated load, or they're saturated
10:50.49Adysuh no
10:51.00Adysat some point i was the only one online on the alpha servers
10:51.04Adysand the lag was much worse
10:51.09Adysits most likely due to other stuff
10:51.28amrothey ran the alpha server on a laptop
10:51.31Fisker-The world is still alive even if you are the only one on the server
10:51.44Fisker-Could be some world event that has issues
10:51.48foxlitFisker-: actually, if they're smart, it's not
10:52.05foxlitThere's no reason to simulate anything you can't get to within a single respawn cycle
10:52.10Fisker-good point :o
10:52.50foxlitIf an azerothian tree falls while there's no one to watch it, does it still make the server crash?
10:52.50amrobesides the 'world' does very little, just mobs moving around
10:52.57Adysnot at all amro
10:53.05Adysfor one "just mobs moving around" isnt very little
10:53.14Adysits like 95% of the data transferred when you play wow
10:53.18amrorelatively speaking it's very little
10:53.23foxlitI'm with amro
10:53.28Fisker-i wasn't talking about moving around though
10:53.29amronot really it's tiny packages
10:53.32amrodead reckoning
10:53.36foxlitAssuming you've got some reasonable pathing system, it's just time offsets for the server
10:53.41Fisker-I was talkinag about stuff where they interact with other npc's and/or the enviroment
10:53.47Adystiny packages sent a few thousand times a minute
10:54.00Adystry running a network sniff in a non crowded area
10:54.01foxlitWhile it make take a bit of bandwidth to get it to your client, if you're the only one playing, that's a drop in the ocean
10:54.06Adysnow try in an area with two more mobs
10:54.18Adyssure
10:54.26Adysbut my point is there is likely memory leaks all around
10:54.28amroyeah but it doesn't take the server much work
10:54.38foxlitAdys: this wouldn't survive with memory leaks.
10:54.54Adysdepends how good garbage collection is
10:55.20Adysi strongly doubt wow servs are programmed in javascript.
10:55.31foxlitC is a strong option
10:55.36foxlitThere's still no GC.
10:55.36amrocould be Java
10:55.52amrolikely C++ though
10:56.03Fisker-it's coded in basic
10:56.08Fisker-that's why the servers suck so much
10:56.11foxlit10 KILL Fisker-
10:56.13foxlit20 GOTO 10
10:56.19Fisker-:(
10:56.20amrolol
10:56.22Adysthe servers dont suck, if i may
10:56.46Fisker-They suck from a "crap, i can't login"-perspective
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10:56.48Adyshonestly every time i hear someone saying the servers suck i feel like booting them in time back in the open US beta ending or the AQ events in patch 1.9
10:57.06Adysthe servers are fucking amazingly fast compared to what they used to be
10:57.12amrohahah open beta was fun
10:57.17Adysand honestly the beta is really stable compared to the alpha
10:57.21amro1. loot 2. play another game 3. get loot
10:57.27Adysrofl amro
10:57.32Adyswas totally that
10:57.41Adysyou remember people running in loot-animation ?
10:58.20Adysat release
10:58.20amroyeah
10:58.20foxlitI still get that
10:58.20foxlitat live
10:58.20amrocleaning the floor
10:58.20Adysno you dont foxlit
10:58.20foxlitYes, I do.
10:58.20foxlitIt's typically me rather than "people", but the point holds
10:58.20foxlitLoot can still desync
10:58.20Adysyou cant even get that from a technical point of view, the running animation has higher priority than loot animation
10:58.28Fisker-I had one earlier on the beta server, though that's to be expected
10:58.31Adysloot can still desync yes but you dont run "cleaning the floor" like amro said
10:58.39Fisker-ah
10:58.43foxlitReality disagrees with you, sorry :)
10:58.51Fisker-cleaning the floor > running though
10:59.05Adysno, i think you just fail at remembering how the open beta/release were or you werent there
10:59.09Fisker-and another animation doesn't get rid of the problem
10:59.13Adyswhen you run you run
10:59.25Adysif you have loot on, you'll go back in loot position when you are done running
10:59.31Adysthis was changed in 1.3
11:00.06Fisker-I could always go "But i paid many money for my WWI key"
11:00.08Fisker-on the forums
11:01.10amrothe worst thing about open beta is that chat servers were working fine, so you got all the whining in General
11:01.39Adysits the same in beta atm
11:01.57Adysthough i got this feeling if you could chat from loading screen there'd be twice more whining
11:01.57Adys^^
11:01.59foxlitSame in live, too
11:02.08foxlitIf you manage to get serious lag there, which is rare
11:02.11Adysyeah its always been that way
11:02.33AdysError retrieving character list
11:02.41Adysfirst time i get that one in three years
11:03.25foxlitNow hit "switch server" and get it for the second time :)
11:03.27Fisker-any word on a new build btw?
11:03.39Adysyes
11:03.47Adysthe build number will be higher than 8636
11:03.55Adysits blizzard who told me
11:03.57Adysi got sources
11:04.28Fisker-yeah i think they've built it more than twice since :P
11:05.40Fisker-http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202617165&pageNo=2&sid=2000#31 <-oh lawd
11:05.47Fisker-didn't know they took the "uninvite" thing serious
11:05.48Fisker-:D
11:06.00Fisker-it's great though
11:08.24Adysgetting banned by tigole ftw
11:08.59foxlithttp://www.wowinsider.com/2008/07/24/authenticator-fails-removed-from-account-without-users-permiss/
11:10.27Fisker-You can remove the authenticator by just being logged in
11:10.30Fisker-failinsider ftw
11:14.59Lukianlmao @ http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r416/antoinewotlk/strats.jpg
11:18.50Adyswow
11:18.53Adysat trade chat
11:18.59Adysis there really a quest named like that
11:19.41LukianI just noticed taht :o
11:19.45Magathorso that Weable.. how the hell did he get in?
11:20.19Fisker-Adys it's an achievement
11:20.21foxlitI really, really need to switch to the combined log format
11:20.36Fisker-failinsider foxlit
11:20.36Fisker-srsly
11:20.42Adysyou can link achievements?
11:20.45Adysi tried to
11:20.48Adysdidnt manage
11:21.07Fisker-yeah
11:21.11Fisker-Sure it wasn't a stat?
11:21.34Adysmight just be my ui bugging out
11:21.37Fisker-Also i think that if there's a description (i.e. it expands) you need to expand before you can link
11:23.34Adyshttp://s354.photobucket.com/albums/r416/antoinewotlk/?action=view&current=WoWScrnShot_072008_184424.jpg
11:23.35Adyswtf
11:23.39Adys(spoiler inside btw)
11:24.15Magathoroh he's big
11:24.23Adysthats what she said
11:24.29Fisker-so you started drinking Adys ?
11:24.30Fisker-tsk
11:26.24Magathordo DK's start out with all bag slots?
11:26.27Magathorfilled?
11:26.29foxlityes
11:26.30foxlitno
11:26.33foxlityes
11:26.46Magathoryay free bags
11:26.52foxlit4x12sot bags + backpack
11:27.38MagathorI'm starting to assume the fetal position when I check my mail and am saddened to see opt-ins aren't out yet, and that Weabler guy gets in instead of someone like me.
11:27.38Magathor:(
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11:59.00Fisker-foxlit
11:59.04Fisker-we require servars
11:59.06Fisker-to survive ;_;
11:59.14foxlitYou must construct additional server rooms.
11:59.42Fisker-damn
12:00.22Fisker-you do not want to make an enemy of me foxlit
12:00.23Fisker-btw
12:00.35foxlitAggro every troll!
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13:14.52pb_ee1Anyone knows what's a Glancing Blow (for a Warrior)?
13:15.04pb_ee1Can't see what it is (surely a specific melee ability)
13:15.14ralfWORKwhat do you mean what is it?
13:15.49pb_ee1well i'm trying to translate it in French, but I don't see what's a glancing blow: an ability, ... ? it's probably very simple but can't find a trad on the net
13:16.05ralfWORKhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Glancing_Blow
13:16.06pb_ee1s/trad/translation/
13:16.08Fisker-FOXLIT
13:16.09Fisker-HALP
13:16.19Fisker-world is coming to an end
13:16.20ralfWORKpb_ee1: no, it's not a technique...
13:16.23pb_ee1Thanks a lot ralfWORK
13:16.29pb_ee1I'll look at that
13:16.33ralfWORKit's a combat table thing
13:17.30ralfWORKwhen you hit someone with a white dammage, and basically reduce reduce the amount you would have hit by 10% per level difference
13:17.47pb_ee1yup i see that. quite simple
13:17.55ralfWORKso against a level 71, you'd hit for 90%, for 72, you'd hit 80%, for 73 raid boss, 70%
13:17.58Adysgnite kids
13:18.04ralfWORKk
13:18.04pb_ee1gnit Adys
13:18.08pb_ee1+e
13:18.22pb_ee1Ho adys btw
13:18.29Adyswai?
13:18.45pb_ee1d'ya now how to translate Glancing Blow in French? :D
13:18.49ralfWORKhahahah
13:18.55ralfWORKI don't speak french
13:18.59ralfWORKsend it to babelfish!
13:19.01pb_ee1he does :p
13:19.08pb_ee1babelfish doesn't know anything
13:19.18amroAdys: now you're in japan
13:19.27AdysI know
13:19.33AdysIm going two meridians west every day
13:19.43pb_ee1lol
13:19.45Adyspb_ee1: nfc
13:23.02pb_ee1Omg
13:23.09pb_ee1Glancing Blows = "Eraflures" in French
13:23.14pb_ee1(that's how Blizzard translated it)
13:23.32ralfWORKI saw someone link the german Thunderfury the other day
13:23.34ralfWORKit was lol
13:23.41pb_ee1fyi :p
13:24.02pb_ee1You're talking about: Donnerzorn, Gesegnete Klinge des Windsuchers ?
13:24.07ralfWORKYES
13:24.09ralfWORKWIND SUCKERS
13:24.13ralfWORKHAHAAHHHAH
13:24.13pb_ee1lol
13:41.11pcjhttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1469970.ece
13:41.11pcjO.O
13:45.11pcjhttp://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080724230931.2rdnlz0a&show_article=1
13:46.01pcjhttp://www.local6.com/news/16975929/detail.html
13:46.55pcjhttp://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080725110703.2nu1ytqt&show_article=1
13:47.04pcj"When we eventually found the culprit it took quite some time to explain to him that he had stolen from the prince. To him Prince Harry was just one of those white guys."
13:47.06pcjlol
13:48.12pcjhttp://www.nypost.com/seven/07252008/news/regionalnews/krazy_kat_got_me_kommitted_121467.htm
13:48.34Kirkburn|sleepYes, I'm sure to people who steal mobiles whether or not the guy is a prince makes a huge difference >_>
13:48.44Kirkburn|sleepMorning :)
13:49.14RagestormIs it?
13:49.26pcjIndeed
13:49.33RagestormCan't tell at my end, too much smog
13:50.16RagestormSorry, not smog. Smog is what other cities have, New York has fashionable pollution.
13:53.27Kirkburnhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7525397.stm - Critics say the screens will turn towns into versions of an electrical retailer or "outdoor Currys". ... Yes, because having a TV in other places, like pubs, homes, does just the same thing.
14:06.25KirkburnSo how is everyone this fine morning?
14:10.34Fisker-i'm doing fine now since you promised me to do ring of blood for me
14:10.41Kirkburnlol
14:11.48Fisker-seen a working mobhealth for WotLK btw?
14:12.02KirkburnI have not
14:12.13KirkburnI've only just started getting addons
14:12.31foxlitI have
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14:12.45foxlitI think it's a few years old
14:13.11pcj!jobqueue
14:13.12DottedThe job queue length is currently 15811
14:13.33selckinwhat does that queue
14:13.51pcjjobs
14:14.05KirkburnTemplate updates, mainly
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14:44.59foxlit<Not the Hammer>
14:46.07KirkburnTalking to Zizanzu about [[Search]], not sure if it has a real place on the wiki
14:46.08DottedKirkburn meant: www.wowwiki.com/Search
14:50.20pcjkd3 you need to update your item template
14:50.58pcjbrb
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15:17.29KirkburnDamn kirby wiki, guess what I keep typing it as
15:18.30_3hey
15:18.51Kirkburnhullo
15:19.08KirkburnI went and called it the "kirkby" wiki, didn't I - http://kirby.wikia.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=9708&oldid=9595
15:19.25DingofiskerAnyone on the stormreaver server ? :D horde side
15:20.21KirkburnNope :P
15:20.30Dingofiskerhmm which are you on then?
15:20.33KirkburnBy anyone, you obviously meant "me" ;)
15:20.46KirkburnEU :P
15:21.13KirkburnI do have a US account, but it's inactive ... I lack US credit card. Since I'm British. Kind of unsurprising, really.
15:21.22Dingofiskerstormreaver is EU :P
15:23.00Kirkburndammit
15:23.19KirkburnEvidently I need breakfast
15:23.31KirkburnAnyway, I'm on Stormrage, which is close, but no cigar
15:41.12ralfWORKhmm
15:41.22ralfWORKso affliction warlocks still use fire spells?
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16:01.47Fisker-Kirkburn my friend!
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16:06.55pb_ee1Kirkburn is unavailable at the moment. You an leave a message but he will never call you back. Thanks (and have a nice day).
16:07.04pb_ee1can * :(
16:08.44Kirkburno_O
16:17.48Fisker-Kirkburn
16:17.51Fisker-what level is your dk?
16:18.02Kirkburn57, I think
16:18.06Fisker-fail
16:18.47Fisker-makes fun of Kirkburn irl
16:18.55Kirkburnoh noes
16:19.18Fisker-you better believe it
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16:33.03Kirkburnpcj, those special pages have been fixed
16:33.09pcjyeah i saw
16:33.21KirkburnCool
16:33.34Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Mostpopulararticles doesn't yet, might have to wait for next code release
16:34.11KirkburnHah, it's the exact next code revision with that one :P
16:34.23KirkburnWe're on r519, r520 does that >_<
16:47.50soufronleaving oscon
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17:00.12Kirochipäivää/god morgen/hello/bonsoir/god morgon
17:02.48Magathorwhat
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17:04.10Kirochijust hello and don't bitch about it
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17:07.18Amarandehmm, since I'm assuming that the suggestions forum should not be used for suggestions referencing the beta ...
17:07.24Amarandeperhaps one of you beta folks can suggest this to Blizzard
17:07.28Amaranderegarding the DKs
17:08.07Amarandeit just occurred to me that you should have to have a 55+ on a *PvP* realm in order to roll a DK on such a realm :)
17:10.06MagathorWhy?
17:10.20MagathorIt's not like anyone World PvP's anymore.
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17:10.59AmarandeMagathor: actually, it helps avoid a lot of whining
17:11.02Kirochithey are going t anyway
17:11.08Amarandespecifically, from the "but we should be allowed to transfer to PvP" folks
17:11.17Sky2042pcj: where are you pulling your NPC template from?
17:11.33g0urraSky2042: I think it's from laurlybot
17:11.49Amarandebasically, the rationale for not being allowed to transfer to PvP is simply this: you can't make an end run around the extra difficulty of leveling on PvP by creating on PvE and transferring to PvP
17:12.16Amarandeit occurs to me that allowing a DK on a PvP realm if you only have a 55+ non-DK on a PvE realm, would fly in the face of this :)
17:12.32MagathorMy Druid was leveled on a pvp server. My friends decided it would be a "funny joke" to take a hold of my credit card and xfer me to their server.
17:12.34Sky2042pcj: Also, whoaaaaaaaaaaa @ http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Zum%27rah%27s_Vexing_Cane&curid=93674&diff=1546410&oldid=1460643 not cool!
17:12.43MagathorDoes that mean that I can make a DK on a pvp realm since I have already done it?
17:13.39Sky2042swears at pcj.
17:14.59g0urraWorld of Warcraft rare staff items ?
17:15.12g0urraWould that be better?
17:15.24Sky2042g0urra: No. Those categories weren't supposed to be combined.
17:16.30pcj...why not
17:17.37Sky2042pcj: because, no-one cares what the color is. the only thing people care about is the stats, type, and level of the item.
17:17.57pcjwho says no one cares?
17:17.58pcjI care
17:18.02Sky2042pcj: You shouldn't.
17:18.10pcjBesides, staff items is a bigger category
17:18.24pcjSo if people are randomly clicking in staff items they don't really care
17:18.49Sky2042pcj: The idea is to subdivide by the level of the item. Ie, WoW staff items from levels 0-9.
17:19.04KirochiHoly jumping mother o'God in a side-car with chocolate jimmies and a lobster bib
17:19.18Sky2042Kirochi: Essentially.
17:19.35pcjWell, it wasn't doing that
17:19.46Sky2042pcj: I know. It was on the grand list of "to do"
17:19.54pcjTo do never got done
17:20.18Sky2042Yes.
17:20.25Sky2042But then, to do never gets done on a wiki.
17:21.25pcjwell, i agree that categorizing items by level would be better than quality, but splitting them up by quality is still better than having just one massive list
17:21.54pcjAlso, I was sworn to secrecy on the location of the implementation of Laurlybot
17:22.01Sky2042-_-
17:22.04Sky2042Where is it?
17:22.12Sky2042Oh wait, do you have the code locally?
17:22.17pcjNo
17:22.21Sky2042:/
17:22.37pcjI guess I can tell you
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17:25.15Fisker-has sex with Sky2042
17:26.08Tenchworkscan't you two get a room?
17:26.44Sky2042unsexes Fisker-, shows him the door.
17:28.18Fisker-:(
17:28.33Fisker-but i'm playing world of warcraft Sky2042
17:28.47Sky2042Yes, that's not World of Sexcraft.
17:29.37Amarandehmm
17:29.47Amarandeall quests that are marked Raid in BRS are UBRS based, right?
17:29.52Sky2042Yes.
17:29.55Sky204210 man.
17:30.04Amarandeso the Darkstone Tablet is NOT in LBRS then
17:30.20Sky2042wowhead.com
17:30.21Sky2042go go go
17:30.42Sky2042or not.
17:30.45Amarandeahh, just looked
17:30.48Amarandeit's in the egg room
17:30.51AmarandeTHE LEEROY JENKINS ROOM!
17:30.51Amarandelol
17:31.02pcj...
17:31.13pcjcalm down
17:31.14Amarandepcj: I'm assuming 'the egg room' would be the Leeroy room, right?
17:31.29pcjif you mean The Hatchery, then yes
17:32.15pcjerr The Rookery
17:32.16pcjbother
17:37.17KirochiI'm tearin' up the night
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17:43.16Kirochileeeeeeeerooooy
17:43.18Kirochijeeeenkins
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18:15.54g0urraYay, people making redirects because "case sensitive = fail"
18:16.03Sky2042-_-
18:16.16Sky2042they need to learn to use the search box or live with themselves.
18:18.32pcji can understand that for templates
18:18.37pcjnot for pages
18:18.50pcjof course templates should be sentence case anyway
18:19.03Sky2042^
18:19.21Sky2042I can understand it for pages, but it does get a little annoying.
18:19.35pcjand tricky to maintain if there are name changes
18:19.53Sky2042like, "linen bolt". You're not supposed to capitalize bolt, but it's a title in the game...
18:20.00Sky2042yes.
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18:36.29Kirochiwhat the hell is this bottle of olive oil doing next to my computer >_<
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18:43.16Kirochihttp://www.deezer.com/track/21959
18:43.25Kirochithis song is the only one which can cheer me up
18:46.12pcjhttp://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Wailea2C-Hawaii/photo//080724/photos_od_afp/c5fbd8eba0808577cdc194a7ea3608cf/;_ylt=Agh1Tvq0IIfTsHchq8.BRM1tsK8F
18:46.20pcj"A New Zealand judge has ordered a name change for an embarrassed nine-year-old girl called Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii"
18:46.21pcjouch
18:47.34ralfWORKdamn that sucks
18:48.02ralfWORKKirochi: btw, what you do with your olive oil next to your computer is between you and rosy palm
18:48.10Sky2042lol....
18:48.18Sky2042ralfWORK: xD
18:48.22ralfWORK:D
18:48.33Kirochino chantilly makes a way better lubricant
18:48.45Kirochioil is just... weird in my room
18:48.53ralfWORKsure if you say so man
18:52.57pcjhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/denmarkchristmasconventionoffbeat
18:53.00pcjwhat an odd convention
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19:08.28kd3pcj; other than <qual> quest items, <qual> quest rewards, any other cats I need to merge?
19:09.00pcjquest starting items
19:09.11kd3k
19:23.51g0urraYay, I bugged "Mission: Gateways Murketh and Shaadraz"
19:24.19g0urraI used the quest item to bomb the gateway and now I'm stuck on the wyvern, right next to the gateway
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19:32.41Sky2042wondres about Malgayne.
19:33.01Fisker-i haet you g0urra
19:33.31g0urraFisker- why
19:33.35g0urrayou don't have beta?
19:34.43MalgayneI'm trying to leave them all open!
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19:37.12foxlitSave the Fisker- Foundation advocates feeding any stray Fiskers every 4 hours
19:37.44foxlitAlso, It's 21:40. Do you know where your Fisker- is?
19:37.51ralfWORKlol
19:38.52Fisker-your mother g0urra
19:39.15g0urra;3
19:44.29Kirochiyour father Fisker-
19:45.27foxlitthat's what she said, Kirochi
19:45.45Kirochi~lart foxlit
19:45.45infobotslaps foxlit upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh
19:49.39Fisker-your mother Kirochi
19:54.42Kirochishe's fine thanks =)
20:01.48g0urrathis beta is so delicious and moist Fisker-
20:02.01Fisker-ok
20:03.01KirkburnAdmins, check your email
20:03.18pcji did
20:03.21pcjreply'd
20:03.34KirkburnThat was indeed fast :P
20:04.00KirochiKirkburn I didn't receive anything
20:04.25KirkburnSurprising?
20:05.50Kirochihttp://www.teomyr.eu/wowwiki/irc-quotes?start=76
20:05.53Kirochithird quote Kirkburn
20:06.06*** join/#wowwiki Juniper (n=LeRoi@NW-ESR1-72-49-206-230.fuse.net)
20:06.34Juniperi have a problem patching 2.0.0 to 2.4
20:06.44Juniperthe CPU sits at 100% but nothing happens
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20:07.16foxlitHow long did you wait? :)
20:07.19Sky2042_afklol Kirkburn.
20:07.29Juniperlike 10 min and i didn't see anything come up
20:07.35Juniperdoes it just run in the background?
20:09.08KirkburnJuniper, is that after you double click it?
20:09.11foxlitHas a window with a progress bar
20:09.20Juniperyes, after i double click
20:09.24KirkburnWindows is checking the file
20:09.26Juniperi see it in the task man as running
20:09.29kd3kirk; ooh, ooh me!
20:09.30kd3>.>
20:09.32KirkburnLeave it going, at it will eventually load
20:09.40Juniperchecking the file?
20:09.52KirkburnFor errors, I think
20:09.53Junipersorry, i'm new to windows
20:09.56pcjchecking it out, seeing if it wants to bang it or not
20:10.01Juniperlol pcj
20:10.07Juniperi'm native linux
20:10.10KirkburnI'm not quite sure what it does, but because the file is so large, it has to check everything
20:10.14Sky2042_afkIs it sad Kirkburn that I got your email after I got pcj's?
20:10.23Juniperalright i'll give it more time
20:10.30Juniperthanks for responses
20:10.38KirkburnSky2042, yup, very :P
20:11.18Juniperis there a way i can turn off this file checking feature of windows?
20:11.29pcjYeah, not advisable
20:11.52Juniperrunning windows itself is not advisable
20:11.57pcjheh
20:11.58Juniperbut i need to learn it for work :(
20:11.59Sky2042_afkunless you game.
20:12.00Sky2042_afk>.>
20:12.10kd3glances at the linux box he's using atm
20:12.11Juniperso while i learn this i will play WoW
20:12.13Juniper:D
20:12.40Sky2042_afk(kd3 is just weird)
20:12.48KirochiJ'ai pas le temps
20:12.50Kirochimon esprit
20:12.52Kirochiglisse ailleurs
20:14.57g0urra(Kirochi is just weird)
20:15.28pcjs/weird/french
20:15.58g0urras/weird/french and weird/
20:17.08Kirochihttp://www.coucoucircus.org/series/generique.php?id=909
20:23.46Amarandehmm, now to figure out where the first outland caster sword that's better than Arbiter's Blade is.
20:26.35Juniperif windows was checking the file wouldn't some other process be taking CPU cycels?
20:26.40Junipernot the patch?!
20:26.57KirkburnNot as far as I recall
20:27.10KirkburnIt's still going?
20:27.13Juniperyea
20:27.16Juniperno change
20:27.26pcjum
20:27.28KirkburnHow long has it been going continuously?
20:27.30pcjwhere did you download it from
20:27.32Juniper15min
20:27.41AmarandeThe main reason I still run Windows is that Campaign Cartographer 3 has always been notoriously hard to get working at all on Linux with Wine.
20:27.50KirkburnVista? How good is your CPU?
20:27.53Junipera link off the wowwiki
20:27.55JuniperXP
20:28.00pcjdid you check the MD5
20:28.03Juniper2.8Ghz
20:28.12pcjdual core?
20:28.15KirkburnHmm, that is longer than it should be
20:28.15Juniperno, should try that
20:28.22foxlit(always run the downloader against your downloaded stuff to make sure it's valid)
20:28.38foxlitIf you were using windows
20:28.46foxlitYou could also check whether the digital signature on the patcher is valid
20:28.59Kirkburnpcj, if it was dual core, it should only take 50% CPU max
20:29.00pcjhe is running windows
20:29.01Juniperi am using windows
20:29.15foxlitSo right click on the patcher and select properties
20:29.35foxlitThere should be a digital signature tab
20:29.48Junipernegative
20:30.15KirkburnWhat link did you use? (give site name not full link)
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20:30.33Ose'sup nubs?
20:30.42Juniperfilefront
20:30.45pcjflings an octopus at ose
20:30.56g0urra"You have learned a new ability: First Aid (Artisan)." well thank you Gregory, I ALREADY HAVE FIRST AID TO 300
20:30.57KirkburnHuh, yeah, Filefront should be okay
20:31.06Kirochishoots himself in the head
20:31.07pcjmaybe your download was corrupted
20:31.11Juniperi'll try to DL it again
20:31.13pcjyeah
20:31.35pcjyou should end the updater process btw
20:31.48KirochiNext time I want to advise the Samaritans about my wish to commit suicide please tell me to refrain
20:31.53Juniperi already did
20:31.54Oseis in Denmark
20:32.07OseI have no idea what people around me are saying
20:32.11Juniperi'm losing my mind
20:32.17KirkburnOse, sounds like fun
20:32.26Juniperthe first time it said i didn't have enough space when i've got over 250GB open
20:32.31Juniperso i redownloaded
20:32.49pcjhmm
20:33.06KirkburnRestart, that can help
20:33.09Osedotted, fisker-, any tips on how to understand jysk?
20:34.17Magathorw00t
20:34.20Amarandeok, let me get this straight ... Blackhand's Command is marked Dungeon not Raid
20:34.22Magathorgoing to 10 ugly men fest this weekend
20:34.23Magathorwoo
20:34.28Amarandedoes this mean you have to do a FIVE man UBRS run to get BWL attunement?
20:34.41kd3no, you can do it in a raid
20:34.58foxlitcan 1-man LBRS
20:35.14Magathoris a shadow priest and has a hard time soloing RFC
20:35.54foxlitis a creature of myth, thought to be extinct past SSC raiding.
20:36.22Magathorlaughs at foxlit, as he can easily dispell his mythiness.
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20:36.47foxlitSurprisingly,
20:36.50foxlitis not a ret paladin
20:36.54pcjwooo
20:41.35pcj!jobqueue
20:41.37DottedThe job queue length is currently 17383
20:42.10Kirochiour french friend syda seems quite calm tonight
20:42.34pcjkd3 quest type is implemented
20:43.48Sky2042nominated an article on Wikipedia for AfD.
20:43.56Sky2042feels special.
20:44.09Kirkburnlol
20:44.11pcjwas it a warcraft article
20:44.14Sky2042No.
20:44.17kd3lol
20:44.19pcjthey have waaay too many of those on wikipedia
20:44.22Amarandeheh, speaking of creatures of myth
20:44.26Sky2042No they don't actually.
20:44.31Amarandeof the 27 talent trees in the game right now on the nine classes ...
20:44.36Sky2042Check out the other fiction universes.
20:44.40Amarandewhich single tree would you say is the -least- viable to spec deep?
20:44.53pcjsurvival hunter
20:45.11KirkburnSky2042, I'd like to think pcj was being sarcastic :P
20:45.25pcjHe really would
20:45.29Sky2042Kirkburn: I'm pretty sure he wasn't.
20:45.31KirkburnI think currently we have about 5 non book/game articles
20:45.35pcjSky2042: I was.
20:45.39Sky2042-_-
20:45.53Sky2042feels the temptation.
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20:46.14*** kick/#wowwiki [Sky2042_afk!i=pcj@pdpc/supporter/active/pcj] by pcj (pcj)
20:46.20Sky2042lol
20:46.29pcjdamn, missed
20:46.44Ose_boot Ose :D
20:46.49*** kick/#wowwiki [Ose!i=pcj@pdpc/supporter/active/pcj] by pcj (pcj)
20:46.59Sky2042Ose_: Try /ns ghost <nick> <pass>
20:47.08Ose_I know that...
20:47.15Sky2042wonders about Ose_ then.
20:47.16pcj-NickServ- Information on Ose (account Ose|afk):
20:47.21pcjwhy is your account under Ose|afk
20:47.39Osedunno
20:47.46Osejust happened
20:47.49pcjnoob
20:48.07Osenoticed it after freenode changed the nickserv stuff
20:49.11Juniperthe filefront version was only 850MB and the other sites are 924MB.... wtf mate?!
20:49.13Juniperno wonder
20:49.40Kirkburn:/
20:49.55Osewut?
20:50.05Juniperwhat what in the butt?
20:50.31pcjyou might tell them?
20:51.00Juniperi guess that would be neighborly, eh
20:51.22KirochiYou wanna do it in my butt?
20:51.49Juniperi see you watching me over there...
20:53.11Kirochicome to me
20:53.14Kirochiif you care
20:54.11Juniperdon't sit and stare, it's just not fair
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20:54.57KirochiOh, for Heaven's sake, our Lod hath descended
20:55.41pcjHail, great Lod
20:55.43KirochiAnd forth from His homelands in the Heavens, hath come the power of Holy Lore
20:56.22pcjwhy not shadow lore
20:56.25KirochiAnd as Bookkeepers, shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee
20:56.39pcjthat sounds gay
20:57.00KirochiShepherds spend their time writing emo poetry and pounding sheep butt
20:57.02Kirochino wonder
20:57.04pcjs/gay/french/
20:57.11RagestormThat is the single worst biblical misquotation I have seen in my life.
20:57.33pcjhooray! go for a guinness record!
20:59.10Kirochiyou don't even recognize the effort
20:59.31RagestormI've never quite understood why beer gives out random records...
20:59.48KirochiI can't say by memory the Bible in English
20:59.59KirochiI have a few remnants in hebrew though
21:00.58Kirochiand pcj you really need to get over your prejudice about French
21:01.11pcjoh its all in good fun
21:01.12KirochiI'm like the least anti-american individual in all of my country
21:01.22Kirochiso shut the fuck up
21:01.34pcjlol
21:03.42Sky2042the french suck.
21:03.49Sky2042french canadians are cool though, imo.
21:04.02Kirochiyou got it all wrong
21:04.11pcjcanada is weird
21:04.19KirochiFrench Canadians are obnoxiously tedious
21:04.38KirochiThe French have at least good food
21:04.43pcjlike 30% of the players on my realm are canadian o.o
21:05.44KirochiThey're not your friends, guy?
21:06.41pcjnot anyone i know is canadian
21:06.58pcjthough they may try to pass themself off as my friends
21:09.20KirochiI just love when people try to pas themselves off as my friends
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21:12.30KirochiAntimensch, feeling misandric?
21:12.48amro~fail Sky2042
21:12.49infobotSky2042: FAIL!
21:13.42amroquebec is like
21:13.46amrothe worst place ever
21:14.52AntimenschKirochi: i guess, if you meant misanthropic, then yes, kind of..
21:15.01Kirochiah sorry
21:15.13Kirochiwhat's the word for men, like masculine?
21:15.34Kirochiherren?
21:15.43pcjin french?
21:16.00Antimenschmisandric may transcribe as männerfeindlich
21:17.00Kirochifeindlich? mein gott
21:17.18Sky2042amro: you is more fail.
21:17.25Sky2042just by existing.
21:17.40Antimenschmisanthropic = menschenfeindlich
21:17.50amro~epic fail Sky2042
21:17.51infobotSky2042, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Sky2042, you are that epic failure.
21:17.59Sky2042....
21:18.01Sky2042lol
21:18.05amro=)
21:18.56KirkburnFor some reason, the term "Bobby Dazzler" comes to mind
21:19.44KirochiIch werde niemals spräche die Deutsche
21:19.44KirkburnOh, good, I didn't make it up - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bobby%20dazzler
21:20.08KirkburnKirochi, I'm so happy for you
21:20.15KirkburnAnd Germany.
21:20.22Kirochiwtf
21:20.23Antimenschthanks. me too.
21:20.35Kirochiyou can't recall a single word of Italian
21:20.44Kirochibut you manage to understand German
21:20.59Antimenschconcerning my misanthropic streak, i don't exactly distinguish between men, women or nationalities anyway.
21:21.00KirkburnI know French, German and Italian. And Latin.
21:21.08amro~dict de en niemals
21:21.16Kirkburn"never"
21:21.17amroer
21:21.17KirochiYou *know* French?
21:21.36KirkburnKirochi, it's hard to forget 8 years at school, but I can try
21:22.17amro~translate de en niemals
21:23.10amrofast response time there, infobot
21:23.13amro~botsnack
21:23.13infobot:), amro
21:23.27Kirkburnamro, I did, y'know, already tell you :P
21:23.28Sky2042amro: oh... cool.
21:23.42KirochiHow come I haven't heard a SINGLE French word from your mouth when you saw us painfully stammering bad English?
21:24.02KirkburnKirochi, because eight years of french is enough :P
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21:24.22amroKirkburn: and I only just noticed that you did
21:24.25amrothanks
21:24.25Kirkburn:P
21:24.32Kirochiwas hoping for grats on his english level
21:24.36Sky2042Kirochi: Besides, French is a dead language.
21:24.43KirkburnGrats on your English level.
21:24.47KirochiSky2042 your penis is dead
21:24.48amroKirochi: because it's funny
21:24.50KirkburnFuturama proved it.
21:25.05Kirochilol
21:25.10amrothat was one of the funniest moments in futurama
21:25.22KirkburnJe suis Anglais, toujours
21:25.24KirochiI just hit "tab" twice after typing "fu", hoping for the "turama" to come out
21:25.31amro><
21:25.35amroI did the same
21:25.40KirochiIRC makes me lazy
21:25.44Kirochihigh five amro :D
21:26.17amrothis stuff already happens to me all the time with Adys
21:26.18amroits creepy
21:26.44KirochiKirkburn better not put capped starting letters next time
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21:27.06Amarandehey, in [60D] Mother's Milk
21:27.08Kirochiwe might get confused and think WoW or Mograine are idlers
21:27.10Fisker-btw Kirkburn
21:27.18Amarandecan you take flightpaths while you have the debuff or do you lose it then?
21:27.19Fisker-i'm level 67 and i still haven't seen you help me with ring of blood
21:27.28Fisker-claims madness
21:27.36Kirochiclaims SPARTAAAA
21:28.10Fisker-nope
21:28.21Kirochiteomyr, quote it
21:28.38KirochiI hit tab thrice
21:28.45Kirochiand when I realized te wasn't on
21:28.49KirochiI still asked him to quote it
21:28.55Kirochiwhat's up with me
21:29.17Sky2042He'll quote it if it's in the logs.
21:29.23KirkburnNo, I am not going to degenerate into text speak, Kirochi. Leaving off full stops is as far I'll go :P
21:29.46Kirochiur mean
21:29.52KirkburnThat I am ;)
21:30.00KirkburnBut nice, alternately.
21:30.00Kirochisms talk is the shizzle
21:30.06KirkburnFo' shizzle?
21:30.17Kirochifo'shizzle, bigga
21:31.00KirkburnWe were doing well until that .... :)
21:31.49amrosms talk in french makes me die a little with every 'word' I read
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21:33.07Kirochiamro have you met my blog?
21:33.29Kirochihttp://jpstormreaver.skyrock.com
21:34.26amroif it has shit like wé gt la ill pass
21:35.11amroI stopped at senvolé
21:35.58amroI do like the idea of Sargerock
21:36.10Kirochithe poem is not even from me
21:36.14Kirochibut the rest of the blog is
21:36.23Kirochiyeah we've done a few trials for sargerock
21:38.14amrorofl tonbe de sargeras
21:38.54amroyou need to be more creative... instead of dan la it should be dont la
21:39.46Kirochihe's an orc, not an algerian immigrant
21:40.21g0urra"Hopesfall yells: [Crude Vrykul] Bjorns mottar haelgond sygar!"
21:40.27amroorcs dont lol
21:40.28amrothey kek
21:40.37Kirochithey kek
21:40.39Kirochidamn
21:42.27Kirochig0urra stop it
21:42.28KirochiNOW
21:43.29amronice to see they're creative with names
21:43.36Kirochiyeah
21:43.54amrokruul is still the worst though
21:43.54Kirochiwe'll get "Hammerfest", "Hammerfall", "Bluetooth", "Perkele"
21:46.44g0urraKirochi what?
21:47.09Kirochithe first two are names alike to hopesfall, more viking though
21:47.34Kirochibluetooth is an actual viking's name, and fun fact it's also the leading brand for wireless devices
21:47.38Kirochias for perkele
21:47.40g0urraKirochi: it's from an NPC in howling fjord
21:47.47Kirochimeh, it just means "goddammit" in finnish
21:48.07Kirochig0urra I know
21:48.18g0urrano you don't
21:48.22KirochiI KNOW
21:48.30g0urraNO U DONT NO
21:50.54Antimenschmimimi
21:53.18KirochiCartman shuddup
21:54.26Antimenscheggsackedly
21:58.58pcjwoot
21:59.05pcj"You have been selected to participate in the beta test of World of Warcraft®: Wrath of the Lich King™. Welcome!"
21:59.16Kirkburnpcj ;)
21:59.28KirkburnI expect cookies.
21:59.40kd3heh, that was quick
22:00.29Fisker-i > u
22:00.35Kirochiwhy don't I
22:00.38Kirochiget that
22:01.51pcjerr
22:01.57pcjsays "key not expansion key"
22:02.00pcjis that what you got kirkburn
22:02.31KirkburnHuh, and you're trying the US website?
22:02.36pcjyes
22:02.43KirkburnTekkub, ping
22:03.11Tekkubow
22:03.17pcjoh wait, mistyped, heh
22:03.21pcjlol
22:03.21Kirkburnnvm
22:03.31pcjhowdy tekkub
22:03.31Kirochimanaged to stay friends with his ex when all he wanted to do was get her back
22:03.34KirochiI feel so screwed
22:04.20KirkburnKirochi, I don't wish to be saying this, but please, keep these issues to yourself.
22:04.34pcjur mom felt pretty screwed last night
22:04.45Tekkubokey, seriously... 5 text fields when you email me the key?
22:04.53Tekkubwhy can't I just copy/paste ><
22:04.54pcjindeed
22:05.01pcj/agree
22:05.16KirochiKirkburn hand me a rope first
22:05.49TekkubI had to copy/alttab/paste/alttab 5 fucking times
22:06.36KirkburnKirochi, and that is why I am asking you not to do that
22:07.17Kirochitreat yourself
22:07.43Kirochigimme a kick so I feel more light-hearted
22:08.00KirkburnGo play a game or something :)
22:08.08Kirochiat that time?
22:08.10Kirochihell no
22:10.32Kirochiyou guys are fun, always talking about templates or the beta
22:10.35g0urraoh nice they changed spell "Resist" messages to "Miss"
22:10.50KirochiI have nothing to share with you on that, but I want fun-fun too
22:11.01Sky2042g0urra: yes.
22:11.03Sky2042cheers for that.
22:11.08kd3yes and no. level-based resists (countered with +hit) are now misses, elemental resistance based resists (countered with +pen) are still resists, properly
22:11.27Sky2042kd3 I think that's what he meant.
22:11.50sancusI thought it was Kirochi's job to say random stuff that doesn't appear to be related whatsoever to what's going on in the channel
22:11.56sancusfigured he was some kind of bot
22:12.11Kirochithat's what I was doing at WWI too
22:12.22winkillersancus: random stuff normally is fisker
22:12.28Kirochialways speaking about Age of Conan, Tenacious D and yelling gold ads
22:12.56g0urraDiablo is not the devil from Tenacious D video.
22:13.01g0urraThat's Dave Grohl.
22:13.26Kirochiyou'd think they could pay me for the animation
22:13.27Kirochifigures
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22:22.45KirochiRagestorm, do you still play WoW?
22:24.33RagestormNot really
22:24.57Sky2042Did he ever?
22:25.39RagestormNot really
22:25.55Sky2042is laggggggggggggin.
22:26.57KirkburnShould he?
22:27.05RagestormNot really
22:31.12Amarandehmm, there's apparently actually an overridingly good reason NOT to go to Outland before doing your charger quest on a prot pally
22:32.28Amarandeovergeared tankadin = bad thing
22:32.35pcjno one cares
22:33.54Sky2042cheers for Ragestorm. Power to the people not playing WoW!
22:34.09Sky2042overgeraed tankadin is a bad thing how?
22:34.18pcjyou run out of mana
22:34.29pcjno mana = no aggro
22:34.50amroSky2042: I read that overaged
22:35.14Sky2042How do you run out of mana if you're overgeared?...
22:35.20pcjno heals
22:35.36Sky2042is confused.
22:35.52Sky2042I suspect whole sentences would dissolve my confusion.
22:35.53pcj[[Spiritual Attunement]]
22:35.55Dottedpcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Spiritual_Attunement
22:36.06pcjThe paladin tank uses mana for his abilities.
22:36.20pcjMana is restored through heals, but not overhealing.
22:36.34pcjWhen the paladin runs out of mana, he can no longer use his abilities.
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22:36.46pcjThese abilities generate threat.
22:37.02pcjThus, no mana = no threat.
22:37.30pcjIf a paladin over-gears the instance, he generally takes a lot less damage than he's supposed to, giving the healer nothing to do.
22:37.48Sky2042_wasn't present for that.
22:37.52pcjIf the healer's heals aren't taking effect on the paladin, he's not getting mana back from spiritual attunement
22:37.58Kirkburnpcj, Tekkub, http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WotLK_beta_contacts
22:38.17pcjYeah, gotta download the client and figure out what I'm going to name my character first
22:38.25KirkburnTrue :P
22:38.51Sky2042_Dkheaven.
22:39.04Sky2042_Deathheaven*
22:48.58Malgayneoh hey sweet
22:49.34Sky2042_Malgayne: ?
22:49.41Malgaynesec
22:50.43Malgaynehttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WotLK_beta_contacts
22:51.04Kirkburncool
22:57.22Sky2042_g0urra: [[Forsaken]] is supposed to be capitalized.
22:57.23DottedSky2042_ meant: www.wowwiki.com/Forsaken
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22:58.11Sky2042_(for the future)
23:03.13*** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> #wowwiki Chan rules: http://wowwiki.com/WW:IRC | All UI questions: #wowuidev | CVN channel: #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | WotLK portal is up - http://wowwiki.com/Portal:WotLK | Please avoid major spoilers on IRC | In the beta? Add yourself - http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WotLK_beta_contacts
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23:04.58Kirkburnfoxlit, Adys, add yourself if you wish: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WotLK_beta_contacts
23:05.49amroadys is in tokyo
23:06.03KirkburnTokyo is in Greece now?
23:06.30Sky2042lol
23:06.37amrohttp://xkcd.com/448/
23:06.50KirkburnOh, I see
23:06.51MagathorOpt-ins been sent out yet, or should I go back to assuming the fetal position everytime I check my e-mail?
23:08.05KirkburnI know not
23:08.08g0urraStorm Giants are the new Fel Reavers.
23:08.22KirkburnI would think even more than others, the opt-ins will be sent out over time
23:08.25pcjoh good, something new to solo
23:08.40KirkburnYour mom?
23:08.46g0urraIn your pants
23:08.49pcjstorm giants
23:09.26MagathorStorm Giants in your moms pants?
23:10.21g0urraStorm giant's mom in your pants
23:10.52Eraclitoreceived a lot of spam and no beta keys
23:10.59AmarandeFrostmourne still the same stats it had at BlizzCon, or nerfed?
23:11.10Eraclitowants to trash the mailbox :<
23:11.32MagathorFrostmourne is not going to be dropped.
23:12.45amrothat gives me an idea
23:13.01amrospam people with fake beta key promises
23:13.18Sky2042hmmm
23:13.24amroKirkburn, get me all the emails for WoWWiki users
23:13.29Sky2042amro: Wait, you mean scammers don't o that already???
23:13.37Sky2042do*
23:13.45amrodunno, but soon one will :P
23:13.54KirkburnSky2042, he's being highly original, can't you see?
23:14.16Sky2042sighs at the collective found here.
23:14.28KirkburnWe're not a collective
23:14.31KirkburnWe're a cabal.
23:15.14AmarandeMag: I mean stats-wise, not existence-wise
23:15.28MagathorWhy would the stats matter if it won't exist?
23:15.29Amarandestill 100 str, 150 int, 200 stam?
23:15.37Amarandeahh, they took it out?!
23:15.42MagathorIt was a joke.
23:15.44Sky2042sighs at Kirkburn. And just Kirkburn.
23:15.49Eraclito[01:13:24] <amro> Kirkburn, get me all the emails for WoWWiki users <- WoWWiki can secretly sells the email list to some spammer :> and make lots of money
23:15.58Eraclitoand then disappear in mootxico
23:16.04Magathorgtfo my /b/
23:16.09Amarandeso ... triple digit stat bonuses are to be expected on top raid gear in Wrath then.
23:16.17Kirkburnliez, beautiful, beautiful liez
23:16.34MagathorMaybe, Amarande. But if Frostmourne is able to be gotten by Private Ownusohard, a LOT of people are going to be pissed.
23:16.46KirkburnWhy on earth would I disappear to Mexico? I mean, seriously, Italy is so much closer.
23:16.47Amarandewe were just discussing in gchat whether to expect FM to be way more powerful than anything else
23:17.02Amarandelike, to the point that a guild with it will have a *major* advantage over a guild without it, more than say with the warglaives
23:17.07MagathorFM is not going to be able to be wielded, dropped, or even exist in the game other than in Arthas' hands.
23:17.32KirkburnCan we wear it as a hat?
23:17.46amroif you pick it up, you become the new lich king
23:17.56amrono one will be able to camp nesingwary's as well as you
23:17.57MagathorHatmourne!
23:18.18MagathorI'm gonna make a Silly article entitled "Hatmourne"
23:20.40Kirkburn:/
23:20.45MagathorI'm kidding.
23:20.47MagathorI'm too lazy for that.
23:20.49Kirkburn:P
23:21.14Amarandeamro: the rumor used to be that it was going to be unique per server, thus the concerns about balance :)
23:21.33MagathorAmarande: Why does it matter if it's not going to exist! D:
23:21.38Amarandesince, unlike a Black Qiraji Battle Tank, it actually would affect the performance of a guild in that case :)
23:21.57amroim going to quit my life for a while during wotlk, get frostmourne, then make a video of me sharding it
23:22.59Amarandethen you get attacked by 20x 83 elite Freed Souls who think you're the one who's been tormenting them all this time :D
23:24.02MagathorActually, if you count up how many people Arthas has kileld in the 8 years since Mt. Hyjal was destroyed, not counting his slaughter before, it's more closer to about ~1,792,215 souls.
23:25.01AmarandeMagathor: Let's not crash the instance server, though LOL
23:25.15MagathorI don't get it.
23:25.31Amarandeimagine spawning 1,792,215 mobs at once lol
23:25.53amrothat just means ill get 1,792,215 Essence of Frostmourne when I disenchant it
23:26.12MagathorIf it drops, I quit the game.
23:26.35MagathorBut if it can be sharded, I'd expect the Lich King to whisper into your mind; "Shard it, and I shard YOU!"
23:27.12AmarandeHeh, or maybe when it's sharded it just makes an ordinary, useless to anyone but a warlock Soul Shard. :)
23:27.41AmarandeOr ... STRANGE DUST! :)
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23:29.39MagathorWho here can answer a quick motherboard question?
23:30.27g0urraNot quick enough
23:30.59AmarandeMag: what about?
23:31.12MagathorRear IO panels.
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23:32.24Amarandeyour mobo should have come with a rear IO panel cover to slot into your case
23:32.31Amarandeif that's what you're wondering :)
23:32.46Magathorit did,
23:32.53Magathorcan I pop out my old IO thing and replace it?
23:32.57Arrowmasteryes
23:33.00Magathork
23:33.22MagathorNow I just need to put RAM into the motherboard and I'm all set..
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23:33.40MagathorMy crappy eMachines motherboard has lolDDR RAM.
23:33.55amroMagathor: it's busted, get another one
23:33.57Arrowmasterive got DDR ram
23:34.38MagathorI bought my new mobo, I just need DDR2 RAM to put into it.
23:34.41MagathorI haven't instaleld it yet.
23:40.18amroI just found a mosquito in the tea i've been drinking from for a while now
23:40.19amro><
23:40.21amrobrb
23:40.33Magathorhahahahahahahaha
23:40.36Magathorenjoy your west nile
23:41.48amroalgerians are immune to most diseases
23:42.22MagathorWhat is this.. algeria you speak of?
23:42.40MagathorI do not count countries I have not verified as existing. Kirkburn can explain it to you.
23:43.13amro~wiki Algeria
23:43.41amrowikipedia is inaccurate, doesn't mention the disease immunity
23:44.10MagathorExactly.
23:44.15MagathorTherefore, Algeria does not exist.
23:44.29amroit sure doesn't
23:44.33amrobut algerians do
23:44.38MagathorNope.
23:44.58amro~whalenuke Magathor
23:44.59infobotACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Magathor with his mind powers.
23:45.03amrothere, now you don't exist either
23:45.11MagathorYes I do.
23:45.17Magathor~whalenuke amro
23:45.18infobotACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around amro with his mind powers.
23:45.23MagathorJOIN YOUR ALGERIAN BRETHEREN.
23:45.51amro~whaleparry Magathor
23:45.51infobotACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Magathor's attacks.
23:46.12amronow you're just being creepy
23:46.14Magathor~whalekill amro
23:46.19Magathor..
23:46.24Magathor~whalenuke amro
23:46.24infobotACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around amro with his mind powers.
23:46.56amroinfobot: Magathor is <reply>Magathor? nope, doesn't exist
23:46.57infobotokay, amro
23:47.03amro~Magathor
23:47.03infobotMagathor? nope, doesn't exist
23:47.56Magathorinfobot: amro is <reply>Amro? Him and his Algerian friends do not exist. Also, Magathor is all-powerful.
23:47.57infobot...but amro is already something else...
23:48.02amroowned
23:48.03Magathor:(
23:48.07amro~amro
23:48.08infobot[amro] not really fond of peanut butter - could you get him better cookies?
23:48.16Magathor~Magathor
23:48.17infobotMagathor? nope, doesn't exist
23:48.22amro~factinfo amro
23:48.22infobotamro -- created by Adys <n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-155-81.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr> at Sun Feb  4 07:14:05 2007 (537 days); it has been requested 2 times, last by amro, 14s ago.
23:48.34amrowhoah that is old
23:48.45Magathor~Magathor is all powerful.
23:48.46infobot...but magathor is already something else...
23:48.52Magathor~Magathor
23:48.52infobotMagathor? nope, doesn't exist
23:48.56Magathor:((((((
23:49.00g0urra~magathor
23:49.01infobotMagathor? nope, doesn't exist
23:49.02amro~comfort Magathor
23:49.02infobotThere, there, Magathor.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
23:55.28winkillerI'm corpsecamped in an AV
23:55.34winkillerdidn't even know this was possible
23:59.33Kirochiamro
23:59.38Kirochihey wtf
23:59.49Kirochiwhat was all that about
23:59.58Kirochidid they pick on you?

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