| 00:06.00 | pcj | not always |
| 00:10.08 | Adys | [02:55:22] <Slix> Man, cause this is like the biggest decision i'll ever make.. |
| 00:10.15 | Adys | dont think it through too much |
| 00:10.25 | Adys | you'll find nice people (and assholes) on pretty much any realm |
| 00:10.46 | Adys | if you got friends playing and you want to play with them go on their realm |
| 00:10.54 | Adys | otherwise, just do whatever you feel like |
| 00:10.59 | foxlit | transfers are cheap, too! |
| 00:11.14 | Adys | transfers are useless seeing how easy lvling has become :P |
| 00:11.24 | Adys | as for a trial accounts you got even less reasons to worry about the realm :) |
| 00:11.33 | Adys | you wont be able to get past lvl 20 on trial iirc |
| 00:13.34 | foxlit | adys: yeah, good luck lvling to SP gear level :) |
| 00:14.05 | Adys | we're talking about a trial account here, helloooo from whatever planet you're in |
| 00:15.07 | foxlit | I don't see the issue. You can acquire SP gear and then regret your choice of realm |
| 00:15.31 | Adys | the issue sir is trial accounts are limited to 10 or so days and 20 lvls |
| 00:15.45 | Adys | the issue sir is that it's impossible to achieve SP gear in either of those. |
| 00:16.50 | pcj | mmm you can achieve SP gear in 10 days |
| 00:16.54 | pcj | not 20 levels tho |
| 00:18.05 | foxlit | 1. Get Trial account 2. Level. 3. Upgrade to normal account. 4. Level. 5. Get SP gear. 6. Regret choice of server. |
| 00:18.28 | pcj | 7. ???. 8. Profit. |
| 00:18.41 | foxlit | 7. Transfer. 8. Loss |
| 00:18.48 | foxlit | 9. ??? 10. Profit! |
| 00:22.42 | Slix | o_O |
| 00:22.51 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Game_terms&curid=13018&diff=1524263&oldid=1434281&rcid=1513623 |
| 00:22.53 | pcj | ...... |
| 00:22.54 | pcj | .. |
| 00:25.02 | amro | SP gear? |
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| 01:13.52 | Adys | i just fixed |
| 01:13.56 | Adys | the most annoying bug |
| 01:13.57 | Adys | ever |
| 01:14.00 | Adys | night all |
| 01:14.05 | pcj | then why is kirkburn still here |
| 01:14.24 | Adys | pcj that link is rofl |
| 01:14.36 | Adys | that would be pretty laim ! |
| 01:16.31 | pcj | lol |
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| 03:16.09 | kd3 | adys, still around? |
| 03:17.22 | pcj | no |
| 03:17.26 | pcj | <@Adys> night all |
| 03:17.30 | kd3 | bah |
| 03:54.51 | Slix | Hmm |
| 03:55.22 | Slix | Am i stupid, or is there some weird addon problem? On the minimap, there seems to be one button stuck under another button :S |
| 03:55.38 | kd3 | mess with your mods |
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| 03:56.17 | pcj | pretty lame floodgates so far |
| 03:56.55 | Slix | o_O |
| 03:57.00 | Slix | How should i mess with them? |
| 03:59.33 | pcj | "All Auras now affect all party and raid members within the area of effect. " whoa |
| 04:01.04 | pcj | "Lay on Hands no longer drains all mana, cooldown reduced to 20 minutes. " |
| 04:02.01 | pcj | "Hammer of Wrath is now considered a Retribution spell, moved from Holy, mana cost reduced, missile speed increased, now usable on targets below 35% health. " ._. |
| 04:02.41 | Slix | :( |
| 04:02.49 | Slix | Stupid QuestHelper, stuck behind another icon |
| 04:06.21 | kd3 | patch notes up. needs some editing help |
| 04:07.48 | Slix | ... |
| 04:07.57 | Slix | So, i can't fix it? |
| 04:08.09 | pcj | "Vanish no longer requires the reagent Flash Powder. " |
| 04:08.18 | pcj | i thought that was already implemented |
| 04:08.29 | farmbuyer | that was for Blind, iirc |
| 04:08.38 | kd3 | ^ |
| 04:09.16 | Slix | ... |
| 04:09.33 | kd3 | your mods should have an option to modify their positoin around the minimap |
| 04:09.45 | kd3 | or just drag them, most mods these days should just respect that |
| 04:09.47 | Slix | I thought that was done by rightclicking the icon.. |
| 04:09.55 | Slix | I cant, cause its stuck behind another one o_O |
| 04:09.57 | kd3 | depends on the mod |
| 04:10.02 | kd3 | so move the other one? |
| 04:10.11 | Slix | Can't either |
| 04:12.05 | pcj | "Sanctity Aura (Retribution) removed. " :o |
| 04:13.50 | pcj | is it really called patch 3.0.0 kd3 |
| 04:14.13 | pcj | i expected them to be more innovative |
| 04:14.40 | kd3 | no. it's 3.0.1, just did that since we already had the page |
| 04:15.00 | pcj | *sigh* |
| 04:17.09 | Pinkhair | "Mage invisibility now requirs the reagent Flash Powder. Because the spell was too damn powerful." |
| 04:17.24 | Pinkhair | Innovative like that? |
| 04:19.20 | kd3 | except it's not... cast time went from 5s to 3 |
| 04:21.40 | Sky2042 | Invis is too powerful???? |
| 04:22.42 | Pinkhair | was being sarcastic |
| 04:23.10 | Pinkhair | the way they implemented mage invis was a calculated slap in the face. |
| 04:23.39 | Sky2042 | Pinkhair: You play a mage? |
| 04:23.55 | Pinkhair | I have two mages at 70 |
| 04:25.00 | Pinkhair | why? |
| 04:25.45 | Sky2042 | I can only agree with you. =) |
| 04:26.08 | Sky2042 | has a mage at 60 and has followed developments to the class since TBC premiered. |
| 04:29.44 | Pinkhair | looks like wrath will be just more slaps in the face, if they don't dramatically change the direction of currnt development |
| 04:30.47 | Sky2042 | Ow, nerf to Arc Focus. |
| 04:30.49 | Sky2042 | Hard. |
| 04:30.53 | Sky2042 | Ow ow ow. |
| 04:31.30 | Sky2042 | Armor was buffed. Yay! |
| 04:31.41 | Sky2042 | Invis buffed? |
| 04:31.45 | kd3 | 3s, not 5 |
| 04:31.47 | kd3 | yay |
| 04:32.19 | Sky2042 | Equivalent threat subtraction? |
| 04:32.33 | kd3 | no clue. presumably 33% a tick |
| 04:33.22 | Sky2042 | kd3: it's curved currently a la exponential up to 50% or something, then full Invis grants full subtraction. |
| 04:33.31 | Sky2042 | wonders. |
| 04:34.39 | Sky2042 | Ow, nerf to Polymorph |
| 04:34.41 | Sky2042 | Ow ow ow. |
| 04:34.50 | Pinkhair | But at least frost mages will get the ability to briefly stun someone who is already frozen, unless you want to keep doing damage, and as long as they don't resist the stun. Oh, and the stun often lasts less time than the freeze would have on it's own. |
| 04:35.18 | Sky2042 | Buff to Prismatic Cloak. |
| 04:35.23 | Sky2042 | 1 second cast Invis. |
| 04:35.25 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 04:36.07 | Pinkhair | yes, nerf to polymorph. Because fully healing your target wasn't a significant enough disadvantage compared to all other crowd control. |
| 04:36.08 | Sky2042 | The other % based stuff isn't so bad though. |
| 04:36.31 | Sky2042 | I'm not sure CS being % based is a good thing or a bad thing. |
| 04:36.40 | Sky2042 | What's base mana at 70? |
| 04:36.56 | Pinkhair | It's a bad thing. |
| 04:38.17 | Sky2042 | Well yeah, it's a nerf, but I was also wondering how bad of one. |
| 04:38.29 | Sky2042 | That's about a 200% increase at level 60... |
| 04:44.01 | Pinkhair | yup] |
| 04:44.25 | Sky2042 | pokes Pinkhair for the base mana at 70. |
| 04:45.57 | Pinkhair | eh, I'd have to actually look |
| 04:46.07 | Sky2042 | You still play? |
| 04:46.13 | Pinkhair | not lately |
| 04:46.18 | Sky2042 | Heh |
| 04:46.22 | Pinkhair | cnncelled my accoutn a while ago |
| 04:46.34 | Sky2042 | applauds Pinkhair. |
| 04:47.36 | Sky2042 | wow, Paladins are getting a working. |
| 04:47.59 | pcj | mmm |
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| 05:58.37 | kd3 | hoo-boy... mass-import time soon |
| 05:58.53 | Sky2042 | hoo boy we're gonna kill everyone else. |
| 06:04.11 | kd3 | keeps glancing at RC |
| 06:05.35 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Anonnotice <-wut? |
| 06:05.45 | kd3 | that's what non-logged in folk see |
| 06:05.59 | Fisker- | ah |
| 06:17.28 | Sky2042 | I think I'm going to pull the site warning about the book in favor of Wrath completely. |
| 06:18.09 | kd3 | I'm not opposed to that |
| 06:18.21 | kd3 | still trying to decide where else I can put it on the main page |
| 06:20.21 | Sky2042 | Rage might have my head for that, but I figure he'll live. |
| 06:27.56 | Sky2042 | "The combat log now differentiates between a spell failure due to resistance and spell failure due to missing the target. Where once both events reported as a resist; a spell missing the target is now reported as a miss. " sexxxxxxxxxxxxx |
| 06:30.41 | Fisker- | i has sex leg Sky2042 |
| 06:40.37 | kd3 | alright, I give up. there's going to be a few overwrites, I'm afraid, but I'm pretty sure I put most of the dups (like fordragon) on disambig'd pages |
| 06:43.42 | kd3 | crap. special:import broke |
| 06:43.45 | kd3 | shudders |
| 06:46.11 | Fisker- | seems that the EU webmasters are still sleeping :D |
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| 06:59.10 | kd3 | ok. I'm done breaking the wiki |
| 06:59.14 | kd3 | let's see what damage I've done |
| 06:59.53 | Pinkhair3d | yay |
| 07:08.47 | Lukian | what's the values for spellpower? |
| 07:09.10 | kd3 | 1 spell damage & healing = 1 spellpower = ~2-3 +heal |
| 07:10.21 | Lukian | 2-3? |
| 07:10.33 | kd3 | I don't know what the exact number is |
| 07:10.37 | kd3 | somewhere around there |
| 07:11.23 | Fisker- | should be 3 |
| 07:27.05 | Pinkhair3d | why are you warning about the book, anyway? |
| 07:27.52 | kd3 | spoilers? |
| 07:27.59 | kd3 | and bunch more wrath info on the front page |
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| 07:43.53 | anguishedfish | im fucked up |
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| 07:47.06 | anguishedfish | HAA |
| 07:51.25 | anguishedfish | HELOOO |
| 07:51.28 | anguishedfish | IM BORED! |
| 08:01.42 | anguishedfish | anyone awake?! |
| 08:04.08 | Pinkhair3d | If anyne were here you'd have been kicked out by now. |
| 08:04.15 | anguishedfish | aww man |
| 08:04.22 | anguishedfish | why the hate? |
| 08:04.37 | anguishedfish | some dude just link this website with the thing |
| 08:05.02 | anguishedfish | atleast talk to me? |
| 08:05.41 | anguishedfish | Ugh. Adult swim has the strangest cartoons |
| 08:06.03 | anguishedfish | Watching this show with like bacteria blobs |
| 08:06.24 | anguishedfish | Lol squid billies |
| 08:06.38 | anguishedfish | Pink?! |
| 08:06.44 | anguishedfish | Buddy? |
| 08:07.45 | anguishedfish | Why so crude? |
| 08:07.51 | anguishedfish | give me a chance :( |
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| 09:12.27 | Ose | http://www.worldofzach.com/?p=101 Gnome Club! |
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| 09:20.47 | Ose | so are we allowed to talk about NDA stuff now? |
| 09:21.51 | Fisker- | Yes |
| 09:22.03 | Fisker- | Of course you were already allowed to talk about alpha stuff |
| 09:22.25 | Fisker- | But now Blizzards says you can |
| 09:22.50 | Ose | OMG MURADIN LIVES! |
| 09:23.08 | Fisker- | spoilers motherfucker |
| 09:23.09 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 09:23.33 | Fisker- | IT'S IMPOSSIBLE OSE |
| 09:25.05 | Fisker- | so explain |
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| 09:27.08 | Pinkhair3d | he finished his corpse run |
| 09:28.22 | Ose | the ice from the frostmourne block didn't impale him, just smacked his headm so that he could join Varian in the amnesiac club :P |
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| 09:33.16 | Fisker- | SAUCE |
| 09:43.07 | Ose | "Macros and key bindings are now saved server-side so there is no longer a need to reconfigure them when logging in using another computer." YES! |
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| 09:45.55 | g0urra | okay who the heck did that? |
| 09:47.28 | Fisker- | YOU DID YOU FOOL |
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| 09:47.46 | Fisker- | NO U |
| 09:47.50 | Fisker- | [11:45:35] * Parts: @g0urra (n=g0urra@73-236.powerdsl.t3.se) ("Leaving") |
| 09:48.07 | g0urra | <infobot> Teabagging inc! |
| 09:48.18 | Fisker- | ah |
| 09:48.33 | Fisker- | ~factinfo g0urra |
| 09:48.33 | infobot | Fisker-: there's no such factoid as g0urra |
| 09:48.35 | Fisker- | :( |
| 09:48.51 | Fisker- | ~onjoin g0urra |
| 09:48.51 | infobot | onjoin for g0urra set by ackiswork on Thu Jul 17 09:14:15 2008: Teabagging inc! |
| 09:48.55 | Fisker- | >:D |
| 09:54.42 | Kirkburn|sleep | morning |
| 09:54.49 | Kirkburn|sleep | Did I miss anything? ;) |
| 09:55.03 | Lukian | yes :p |
| 09:55.11 | Kirkburn|sleep | heh |
| 09:56.36 | Fisker- | http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36747.html <-you missed this great trailer from E3 |
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| 09:58.30 | g0urra | jesus fucking christ |
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| 09:59.14 | Fisker- | infobot, no onjoin g0urra |
| 09:59.19 | Fisker- | >:o |
| 10:00.59 | g0urra | now let's see if that bastard ackis know how to delete onjoin messages :> |
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| 10:04.38 | Fisker- | do tell g0urra |
| 10:05.19 | g0urra | no |
| 10:05.31 | Fisker- | then i hate you |
| 10:05.46 | g0urra | I thought you already did |
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| 10:06.17 | Fisker- | :( |
| 10:06.45 | amro | shakes fist at firefox |
| 10:11.14 | g0urra | anyone who got into the beta yet? |
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| 10:14.59 | Kirkburn|sleep | Not I |
| 10:16.54 | Fisker- | They have not sent out emails yet because Blizzard doesn't care about EU people |
| 10:17.15 | Fisker- | (I.e. they didn't figure that the EU people needed to upgrade their page and just went to the next phase without upgrading the page to beta) |
| 10:17.30 | Kirkburn | Or, they were asleep |
| 10:18.17 | Fisker- | I don't think you sleep till the middle of the day |
| 10:19.58 | Fisker- | cool |
| 10:20.08 | Fisker- | Instructor Razuvious is apparently friendly now |
| 10:20.23 | Adys | kd3: ping |
| 10:20.54 | Fisker- | he went to sleep |
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| 10:21.22 | Lukian | Fisker-, rly? |
| 10:21.31 | Fisker- | rly |
| 10:21.37 | Lukian | in beta? |
| 10:21.42 | Fisker- | ah |
| 10:21.50 | Fisker- | I don't know, just what i read |
| 10:22.15 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202570485&sid=2003 |
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| 10:37.00 | Adys | is the wlk installer still horrible under wine? |
| 10:40.58 | amro | im guessing yes |
| 10:45.54 | g0urra | appearantly this image got removed http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:SsAchievements5.jpg |
| 10:46.05 | g0urra | and replace by http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/images/artwork/ssAchievements5.jpg |
| 10:47.39 | Fisker- | they have more now |
| 10:48.01 | Fisker- | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/images/artwork/ssAchievements6.jpg |
| 10:48.09 | Fisker- | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/images/artwork/ssAchievements7.jpg |
| 10:48.37 | Fisker- | up until 9 |
| 10:49.18 | Fisker- | looks pretty advanced in comparison to the alpha |
| 11:00.50 | Kirkburn | Indeed! |
| 11:02.31 | Lukian | ding, rep ding, achievement ding? XD |
| 11:04.07 | g0urra | Bear Trap wtf |
| 11:04.40 | g0urra | "Place a bear trap that locks onto the first enemy that approaches, rooting them and causing [RAP * 0.1 + 1575] Bleed damage over 10 sec. Damage caused may interrupt the effect. Trap will exist for 1 min. Only one trap can be active at a time." |
| 11:05.16 | Lukian | rooted :D |
| 11:07.39 | Lukian | Wierd :D http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/images/artwork/ssAchievements4.jpg |
| 11:08.34 | g0urra | My bet is completing all quests in Grizzly Hills |
| 11:09.22 | g0urra | anyway I'm off |
| 11:09.24 | g0urra | cya on sunday |
| 11:11.56 | Kirkburn | .. bye? |
| 11:12.15 | Kalroth | bye Kirkburn! |
| 11:12.22 | Kalroth | We'll miss you! |
| 11:12.47 | Kirkburn | That was at g0uura, stoopid :P |
| 11:13.39 | Adys | well we wont miss you then |
| 11:14.18 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 11:14.24 | Kirkburn | Lots of screenshots incoming :) |
| 11:15.38 | Kalroth | haha |
| 11:17.38 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202460492&sid=2003 <-update on the missing beta pages :P |
| 11:17.51 | Adys | We'd just like to make it clear that EU tester must use the EU beta installation and client download, and not the US one. The page for downloading the EU version is still being run through internal QA, and so is not quite available yet. At the moment, the URL will show the alpha sign-up and client, which is not the one you need to download. So unfortunately, we just need to hang on a bit longer! ;-) |
| 11:18.01 | Adys | triplesigh |
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| 11:24.06 | Ose | kd3 upload extravagnza! |
| 11:25.12 | Fisker- | kd3 is still asleep :P |
| 11:25.23 | Fisker- | probably won't expect him up for another couple of hours |
| 11:26.53 | Kirkburn | Indeed |
| 11:26.58 | Kirkburn | But look at the RC list ;) |
| 11:27.24 | Ose | that was my point |
| 11:27.36 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 11:27.58 | Kirkburn | I think it's killing my Firefox session >_> |
| 11:28.03 | Fisker- | use IE |
| 11:28.04 | Fisker- | :D |
| 11:28.30 | Kirkburn | Ose, it's a batch import by Tor |
| 11:28.38 | Fisker- | he's only doing it to spam the RC |
| 11:28.39 | Fisker- | bot him |
| 11:28.41 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 11:28.50 | Ose | meaning? |
| 11:28.57 | Kirkburn | Meaning what? |
| 11:29.00 | Ose | why does TOR use kd3? |
| 11:29.07 | Kirkburn | They're kd3's images |
| 11:29.18 | Fisker- | almost done though |
| 11:29.22 | Fisker- | he only had 700 images or so |
| 11:29.25 | Fisker- | and he's uploaded 500 |
| 11:30.00 | Kirkburn | What the heck is going on with my Firefox :/ |
| 11:30.14 | amro | Firefox sucks |
| 11:33.10 | Kirkburn | Gah, ISP has rate limited me |
| 11:33.23 | Kalroth | owned |
| 11:33.27 | Kirkburn | Bloody thing has reduced me to 20kB/s |
| 11:33.40 | Kirkburn | From 500 |
| 11:33.47 | Kalroth | wow |
| 11:33.59 | Kalroth | that'll teach you to use chav ISPs |
| 11:33.59 | Kirkburn | Cheeky as hell |
| 11:34.26 | Kalroth | chavs-online.co.uk - COL |
| 11:34.59 | Kalroth | node341-burburry.col.co.uk |
| 11:39.09 | Kirkburn | lol |
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| 12:04.27 | Ragestorm | Of all the no good, rotten, infuriating... HOW DARE THEY?!?!?!?!? |
| 12:07.15 | Adys | ? |
| 12:13.55 | Ragestorm | Don't they realize what a blessing the NDA is? |
| 12:14.18 | Ragestorm | We're going to be airbrushing random Wrath information from the arrticles for weeks! |
| 12:15.08 | Ragestorm | Oh, well, the show must go on... |
| 12:15.26 | Lukian | start with the patch notes |
| 12:16.10 | Lukian | Blessing of Salvation renamed Hand of Salvation, now reduces total threat on the target by 2% per second for 10 seconds while also reducing all damage and healing done by 10%. |
| 12:16.26 | Lukian | "done by" "dealt by" or "received by" ? |
| 12:16.50 | Fisker- | done by? |
| 12:17.06 | Lukian | what does "done by" mean? |
| 12:17.16 | Lukian | who's doing it? |
| 12:17.23 | Lukian | incoming? outgoing? |
| 12:17.35 | Fisker- | outgoing |
| 12:18.06 | Ragestorm | It means all damage and healing being done at the time of casting is reduced by one tenth. |
| 12:18.22 | Lukian | it doesn't say who by :p |
| 12:18.27 | Lukian | (in what yo |
| 12:18.40 | Lukian | Even in how you just phrased it |
| 12:19.37 | Ragestorm | "done by" is referring there referring only to the factor of reduction, not who's doing it. Therefore, you're laming the wrong phrase. :) |
| 12:19.44 | Ragestorm | *blaming |
| 12:19.58 | Lukian | "reducing all damage and healing done by 10%." |
| 12:20.26 | Lukian | This can be taken as "all damage dealt and healing done by 10%" or as "all damage received and healing received by 10%" |
| 12:21.19 | Lukian | On another topic, did fish schools get sparkles in 2.4.3? |
| 12:23.18 | Adys | Earlier than that Lukian |
| 12:23.32 | Adys | but afaik only if you got a fishing pole equipped |
| 12:23.39 | Adys | or only if you got fishing learned |
| 12:23.41 | Adys | or something like thatr |
| 12:24.11 | Lukian | it's while find fish is active it sems |
| 12:24.28 | Lukian | I fish a lot, this is the first patch I've seen it |
| 12:24.31 | Adys | ah |
| 12:37.24 | Kirkburn | Lukian, I think it's referred to the target |
| 12:37.43 | Kirkburn | That the target has 10% reduced dmg, and heals for 10% less |
| 12:37.56 | Lukian | but incoming heals are the same? |
| 12:38.41 | Kirkburn | It's "healing done", which I think implies "healing done" by the target. |
| 12:40.54 | Lukian | I agree, but it's badly worded :/ |
| 12:41.42 | Kirkburn | True |
| 12:47.51 | Fisker- | haha |
| 12:47.59 | Fisker- | noth is also friendly |
| 12:48.58 | Fisker- | and one of the four horseman i think |
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| 13:17.46 | Adys | fkin client |
| 13:18.10 | Adys | if anyone's in the alpha/beta feel free to put [[Category:WotLK beta testers]] on your userpage |
| 13:18.10 | Dotted | Adys meant: www.wowwiki.com/Category:WotLK_beta_testers |
| 13:26.01 | amro | that's a lot of people :) |
| 13:27.17 | pcj | you guys should give me a beta key |
| 13:27.33 | Fisker- | i'll give you one |
| 13:27.39 | Fisker- | infact i got 25 TBC beta keys |
| 13:27.57 | pcj | why |
| 13:28.18 | Fisker- | I phoned them and said "CAPTAIN AWESOME AT YOUR SERVICE" |
| 13:28.25 | Fisker- | Or we won a contest |
| 13:28.30 | Fisker- | take your pick :o |
| 13:28.34 | Kirkburn | I see, and they gave you them to shut you up? |
| 13:28.46 | Fisker- | nah |
| 13:28.48 | pcj | you won a contest for 25 tbc keys? |
| 13:28.52 | pcj | ...grats |
| 13:29.00 | Fisker- | thanks! |
| 13:29.03 | Kirkburn | Dude, he's a terible liar |
| 13:29.21 | Kirkburn | Fish could do a better job:P |
| 13:30.04 | Kirkburn | Look! My fish just told me there was an elephant, and I believe him |
| 13:30.07 | Fisker- | besides you're not a beta tester |
| 13:30.16 | Fisker- | also i'm not lying |
| 13:30.17 | Fisker- | baww |
| 13:30.23 | Kirkburn | :) |
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| 13:36.05 | amro | gnomes can be death knights? |
| 13:38.33 | Kirkburn | Of course |
| 13:39.45 | amro | that's worse than gnome warriors |
| 13:41.26 | Fisker- | blood elf death knights > amro |
| 13:41.34 | Fisker- | a shame Kirkburn can't play hehe |
| 13:41.47 | Kirkburn | Shaddup |
| 13:41.54 | amro | why can't you? |
| 13:42.01 | Kirkburn | Haven't got my key yet |
| 13:42.43 | Fisker- | and you probably ebayed your 2 keys from Blizzcon/WWI and asked Blizzard for a 3rd |
| 13:42.44 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 13:43.00 | Kirkburn | No? They're both active and waiting to receive :P |
| 13:43.09 | Fisker- | :( |
| 13:45.05 | pcj | i bet you could come up with some sort of contest to give them away kirkburn |
| 13:46.53 | Lukian | robs Kirkburn's keys and keyboard-point |
| 13:46.57 | Lukian | Giev! |
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| 13:47.45 | amro | a who can give kirkburn more cookies? contest |
| 13:48.04 | Kalroth | mmm, cookies |
| 13:48.28 | amro | beta cookeys |
| 13:48.31 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 13:51.21 | pcj | stuffs over 9000 cookies into kirkburn's mouth |
| 13:52.51 | amro | we're trying to woo him with cookies, not kill him |
| 13:53.06 | amro | though that might work if you still get the keys :P |
| 13:53.11 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 13:53.15 | Kirkburn | You'll have to be very nice |
| 13:58.34 | Kirkburn | Gah, I hate compressed files with a ratio of 100% |
| 13:59.00 | Kirkburn | All it makes me do is spend time unzipping it and moving the identically sized source to the bin |
| 13:59.58 | pcj | hmm what happens to gems like great dawnstone and rigid dawnstone with hit and spell hit being merged |
| 14:11.39 | Kirkburn | Snobolds ftw |
| 14:12.02 | Fisker- | Snobolds? |
| 14:12.09 | Kirkburn | Artic kobolds |
| 14:12.21 | Kirkburn | We don't have an article yet, but we have mobs |
| 14:12.24 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Snobolds |
| 14:12.43 | Fisker- | Snebold almost |
| 14:14.36 | Kirkburn | kd3, when you're up - need clarification on all the Nexus stuff |
| 14:14.57 | Kirkburn | Not quite what to categorize where atm |
| 14:15.18 | Fisker- | link |
| 14:15.45 | Kirkburn | [[Category:The Nexus mobs]] |
| 14:15.46 | Dotted | Kirkburn meant: www.wowwiki.com/Category:The_Nexus_mobs |
| 14:15.48 | Kirkburn | And similar |
| 14:16.05 | Kirkburn | There's a zone and an instance with the same name |
| 14:16.25 | Fisker- | whats with the failed images? |
| 14:16.40 | pcj | wowwiki has a problem |
| 14:26.10 | Kirkburn | Failed images? |
| 14:26.24 | Kirkburn | The red links just mean we haven't got a screenshot yet, I hope |
| 14:27.07 | Fisker- | Thought those were what he uploaded earlier |
| 14:30.40 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, he did, but not /that/ many |
| 14:31.25 | Kirkburn | The number of imported pages was ... insane? |
| 14:31.39 | pcj | over 9000? |
| 14:31.46 | Kirkburn | I wish |
| 14:32.27 | Fisker- | i can deliver over 9000 pages |
| 14:32.39 | Kirkburn | More than 1500 pages imported |
| 14:32.51 | Kirkburn | Every one written by kd3 |
| 14:32.56 | Kirkburn | The man is a machine |
| 14:33.35 | Fisker- | He's had a month to write it in |
| 14:33.52 | Kirkburn | True, but it's still one hell of an achievement |
| 14:34.32 | Fisker- | He didn't unlock an achievement ingame |
| 14:34.34 | Fisker- | :P |
| 14:34.48 | Kirkburn | touche |
| 14:35.00 | Fisker- | clever use of word mechanics, etc. |
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| 14:35.50 | Fisker- | Have they said if the achievement points will be usable for anything btw? |
| 14:36.05 | Kirkburn | Probably nothing other than pride |
| 14:36.19 | Kirkburn | It would be an interesting mechanic though |
| 14:36.52 | Kirkburn | It would have to be for stuff like vanity pets though |
| 14:36.59 | Fisker- | of course |
| 14:37.19 | pcj | !jobqueue |
| 14:37.21 | Dotted | The job queue length is currently 5396 |
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| 14:43.41 | pcj | http://lazowska.cs.washington.edu/sieg/ |
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| 14:50.04 | Adys | Whats the beta build # ? |
| 14:50.06 | sag_ich_nicht | bashes his head on the table while waiting for the EU beta activation page to go up |
| 14:50.14 | sag_ich_nicht | 8634 |
| 14:50.21 | sag_ich_nicht | 3.0.1.8634 |
| 14:50.25 | Adys | thanks |
| 14:50.28 | sag_ich_nicht | np |
| 14:53.03 | sag_ich_nicht | that's the EU build at least, don't know if the US have a different build, might have >.> |
| 14:53.19 | sag_ich_nicht | I'm sitting here waiting for the EU beta activation page to work, client is already installed >< |
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| 14:57.52 | Fisker- | KIRKBURN |
| 14:57.53 | Fisker- | RAWR |
| 14:57.54 | Fisker- | http://i36.tinypic.com/10dbn28.png |
| 14:57.56 | Fisker- | reward! |
| 14:58.10 | Fisker- | only 1 million tuskarr for a baby seal club |
| 14:58.12 | Adys | is that the new dk ui? |
| 14:58.12 | Adys | lame |
| 14:58.39 | Fisker- | I don't see why they had to remove the sword |
| 14:58.43 | Adys | Yeah |
| 14:59.47 | Kirkburn | zomg, and already a patch |
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| 15:00.07 | Kirkburn | Start at 8622, patch to 8634 |
| 15:00.16 | Adys | 8622 was devbuild |
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| 15:05.36 | Ose | what info is there on eu beta? when does it start? when do they start handing out keys? |
| 15:05.50 | Kirkburn | It's going through QA |
| 15:08.10 | Ose | DAMN YOU KAEL'THAS! |
| 15:09.47 | pcj | ... |
| 15:10.57 | winkiller | Feat: You unlocked 20 Heads of Samwise. /ROAR |
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| 15:12.16 | winkiller | "Make 10k gold from quests" - if that already knows about classic/tbc-quests I am *really* impressed by their dataharvesting and logging |
| 15:12.51 | Kirkburn | What do you think of this? http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Main_Page |
| 15:12.57 | winkiller | because it does not only have to know what quests you completed, but also at what level/time you did them and when those quests were changed |
| 15:13.16 | Kirkburn | Yup |
| 15:13.28 | winkiller | I'm not really into DC/Marvel Comics |
| 15:13.30 | Kirkburn | Looks like they've been storing maaaaassive amounts of data |
| 15:13.40 | Kirkburn | More the design, just interested in what people think |
| 15:13.50 | amro | this does not sound like blizzard at all |
| 15:13.50 | winkiller | it's nice |
| 15:13.59 | winkiller | but blue,red,white.. |
| 15:14.05 | winkiller | that is so captain america |
| 15:14.08 | Kirkburn | Oh wow, the images are clickable too |
| 15:14.10 | winkiller | isn't he marvel= :D |
| 15:14.28 | winkiller | the red has to go, then it's perfect I'd say |
| 15:14.33 | pcj | http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080717/D91VTCU80.html |
| 15:14.34 | winkiller | but blue/white only would be better |
| 15:14.41 | Kirkburn | Yeah, the red is a bit out of place |
| 15:14.53 | winkiller | dc website is also white/blue |
| 15:14.54 | winkiller | so yea |
| 15:15.01 | amro | nice |
| 15:15.10 | amro | super/batman take up a llot of spsace though |
| 15:17.51 | winkiller | WTF |
| 15:17.52 | winkiller | There are 851,367 registered users, |
| 15:17.58 | winkiller | that makes me speechless now |
| 15:18.06 | Kirkburn | That's Wikia-wide |
| 15:18.10 | winkiller | ah |
| 15:18.19 | Kirkburn | And we brought something like 350,000 with us |
| 15:18.24 | winkiller | still madness |
| 15:18.38 | winkiller | with 130k pages |
| 15:18.38 | winkiller | what are all these people doing? :P |
| 15:18.40 | winkiller | not creating pages it seems |
| 15:19.00 | winkiller | think I already made hundred or more.. |
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| 15:21.03 | amro | I think banned users show up in that count |
| 15:21.27 | winkiller | Kirkburn: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia:Statistics looks broken. starwars.~ and dofus.~ have same rank as wikia.com |
| 15:21.47 | amro | lol dofus |
| 15:21.53 | Kirkburn | Yeah, they're on the same domain |
| 15:22.09 | winkiller | oh, damn |
| 15:22.12 | winkiller | didnt notice. |
| 15:22.17 | winkiller | well. still faulty display :P |
| 15:22.26 | winkiller | sucky alexa |
| 15:22.29 | Kirkburn | Well, "links in" is still applicable |
| 15:22.36 | winkiller | [ ] I understood the DNS |
| 15:28.04 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 15:28.07 | Fisker- | Blizzard_TokenUI |
| 15:29.36 | pcj | kirkburn how about stubbing those npcs when editing them |
| 15:30.02 | Kirkburn | Sure thing |
| 15:31.14 | winkiller | Blizzard_BrokenUI! |
| 15:31.38 | Fisker- | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/july/rdungeonachievements.jpg <-does that work for you? |
| 15:33.12 | pcj | imo plural of yeti is yeti not yetis |
| 15:33.23 | winkiller | eh |
| 15:33.27 | winkiller | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Server:Aggramar_Europe/Disbanded_guilds&curid=165529&diff=1523990&oldid=1513552 |
| 15:33.34 | winkiller | like 3 admins told me it's fine |
| 15:33.42 | winkiller | and now Sky comes and deletes the stuff |
| 15:33.44 | winkiller | wrd |
| 15:33.46 | winkiller | *wtf |
| 15:33.48 | pcj | it is fine, per [[WW:GUILD]] |
| 15:33.48 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/WW:GUILD |
| 15:33.58 | Kirkburn | I'll undo, with note |
| 15:34.49 | winkiller | ty |
| 15:35.32 | Kirkburn | pcj, yetis is correct |
| 15:35.38 | Kirkburn | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/yeti |
| 15:36.04 | amro | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:NorthrendWrath.jpg useless now isn't it? |
| 15:36.05 | Kirkburn | Confusion may be cause we're not talking of the proper noun Yeti, but a species |
| 15:36.36 | Kirkburn | hrm |
| 15:36.54 | amro | especially with a better map right under it on [[WOTLK]] |
| 15:36.56 | Dotted | amro meant: www.wowwiki.com/WOTLK |
| 15:37.08 | Kirkburn | On Northrend? |
| 15:37.17 | amro | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King |
| 15:37.45 | Kirkburn | Yeah |
| 15:37.53 | pcj | we need a screenshot of the login screen and of the world map |
| 15:37.54 | Kirkburn | On the other articles, not so sure |
| 15:38.08 | Kirkburn | world map? http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:NorthrendWorldMap.jpg ? |
| 15:38.18 | pcj | WORLD map |
| 15:38.23 | pcj | as in azeroth |
| 15:38.32 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Mapofworldwithnorthrend.jpg :O |
| 15:38.43 | Kirkburn | It's very old though |
| 15:38.43 | pcj | see date |
| 15:38.45 | pcj | exactly |
| 15:38.46 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 15:39.16 | Fisker- | trying to get one |
| 15:41.18 | pcj | adds [[User:Fisker]] to [[Category:Turkeys]] |
| 15:42.09 | Kirkburn | I wonder, should I change the colour of the information center to icy blue? |
| 15:42.20 | pcj | information center? |
| 15:42.25 | Kirkburn | See sitenotice |
| 15:42.35 | Kirkburn | It's on the main page |
| 15:42.36 | pcj | ive already dismissed it |
| 15:42.56 | pcj | put it in your sandbox, let's see |
| 15:44.08 | Kirkburn | looks for an appropriate colour |
| 15:46.35 | Kirkburn | Yeah, this isn't turning out as intended |
| 15:46.59 | Kirkburn | Blue links, grey bg do not make easy colouring |
| 15:48.26 | Kirkburn | Hmm, can't really get an icy blue feel |
| 15:49.31 | pcj | maybe use an image as the background |
| 15:49.34 | pcj | SVG |
| 15:49.49 | Kirkburn | Yeah could work, or find some nice icicles |
| 15:50.02 | Kirkburn | Might get to that later |
| 15:52.51 | winkiller | thanks for restoring pcj - but now the question if Charibot's changes were ok. /Disbanded_Guilds or _guilds? |
| 15:53.05 | pcj | _guilds |
| 15:53.06 | Kirkburn | Lowercase |
| 15:53.13 | winkiller | gets on moving then |
| 15:53.17 | Kirkburn | It broke the links? |
| 15:53.38 | Kirkburn | It was likely unintentional anyway, just an effect of the bot code |
| 15:53.40 | winkiller | /Disbanded_Guilds/GUILD X is the article |
| 15:53.58 | winkiller | and the main article already at /Dis_guilds |
| 15:54.12 | Kirkburn | Lowercase is the norm, so yeah, I would make them consistent |
| 15:54.26 | Kirkburn | But it's not a "we will delete you again" thing :P |
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| 16:00.09 | Kirkburn | *sigh*, I wish my HDD space wouldn't leap around so much |
| 16:00.49 | Kirkburn | I defrag my Steam games, I lose 12 gig, can't find where it's gone, install WoW, and suddenly *boom*, there it is again. |
| 16:01.11 | Kirkburn | Pre install space: 20 gig, post install: 29 gig. Negative installs ftw. |
| 16:02.54 | selckin | are you sure you checked used space in the same way? |
| 16:03.03 | Kirkburn | yup |
| 16:03.13 | selckin | probably seeing the diffrence betwean space on disk, and actualy file sizes |
| 16:03.16 | selckin | else the gap is a bit big |
| 16:03.52 | pcj | wait, are you complaining that you have more space than you thought? |
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| 16:07.44 | kd3 | yawns |
| 16:07.52 | kd3 | has jsharp added my images yet? |
| 16:08.02 | Fisker- | ~kiss kd3 |
| 16:08.03 | infobot | ACTION forces kd3 to give WyriHaximus a big kiss on the neck |
| 16:08.06 | amro | NTFS fails |
| 16:08.14 | kd3 | yes, yes he has |
| 16:08.14 | kd3 | yay |
| 16:08.50 | Kirkburn | Morning kd3 |
| 16:08.56 | kd3 | heyo |
| 16:09.17 | Kirkburn | I created most of the new categories, but stuck on the instance ones due to the conflicting names |
| 16:09.28 | Kirkburn | Utgard and Nexus are ... complex |
| 16:09.46 | Kirkburn | All the images are assigned to you btw :P |
| 16:10.01 | kd3 | still haven't logged in to beta yet, but last build in alpha, the zones were named how I tagged the mobs |
| 16:11.16 | Kirkburn | I understand that, but in the case of the Nexus, I don't know what zone that is in relation to everything else :P |
| 16:12.03 | Kirkburn | I think we may need to use "The Nexus (instance)" |
| 16:12.12 | kd3 | yah |
| 16:12.30 | Adys | Achievement unlocked: Install the game under Wine without crashing the computer |
| 16:12.50 | kd3 | lol. I'd like to get that far. caught at the same place I was during alpha, the EULA-accept screen |
| 16:12.55 | kd3 | guess I can report it upstream now |
| 16:13.08 | Adys | kd3 use ies4linux |
| 16:13.38 | Adys | Im wondering if theres a way to extract only the installer tho |
| 16:13.56 | kd3 | I asked in alpha for a copy of the installer without a payload but didn't get a response |
| 16:13.59 | Kirkburn | kd3, anyway, fantastic work - looks like the rest is mostly information merges |
| 16:14.18 | kd3 | I think I caught most of the overwrites (like alexstrasza and the subzones) |
| 16:14.24 | kd3 | hopefully |
| 16:14.41 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I think so |
| 16:14.56 | Kirkburn | If there are others, I'm sure they're be reverted |
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| 16:15.24 | Kirkburn | Good thing we only have one npcbox now |
| 16:15.37 | Amarande | hey ... any of the rest of you getting really super horrid lag today? |
| 16:15.42 | pcj | No |
| 16:15.44 | Kirkburn | lag in WoW? |
| 16:15.55 | Kirkburn | kd3, I sent you an email of the screenshots missing |
| 16:16.11 | Kirkburn | Waitasec |
| 16:16.14 | Kirkburn | I thought I did |
| 16:16.31 | Adys | kd3: Im upgrading my US acct this time aswell btw |
| 16:16.59 | Amarande | I'm getting like 660ms right now |
| 16:17.02 | Kirkburn | kd3, /now/ I have |
| 16:17.14 | Amarande | a friend of mine on the same server is getting DC'd from AV |
| 16:18.07 | kd3 | yah, I'm missing 112 or so. most of which were either in instances or ph models |
| 16:19.12 | Adys | hah porn ads on wowhead |
| 16:19.15 | Adys | sighs |
| 16:19.21 | amro | lol? |
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| 16:21.45 | kd3 | whee, python crashed |
| 16:21.47 | kd3 | sighs |
| 16:21.59 | Adys | Python never crashes |
| 16:22.03 | Adys | python's just too good for crashes |
| 16:22.17 | kd3 | *** glibc detected *** python: corrupted double-linked list: 0x00000000017af3f0 *** |
| 16:22.35 | amro | what'd you do? |
| 16:23.26 | kd3 | run ies4 |
| 16:23.33 | kd3 | working this time |
| 16:23.33 | kd3 | huh |
| 16:23.48 | Adys | Background processes might have killed it |
| 16:23.55 | Adys | if there was any other script running |
| 16:23.56 | Adys | shrugs |
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| 16:27.51 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Everett_McGill ? I have no idea who it is referred too... |
| 16:30.31 | Amarande | hmm, I wonder if I'm the only Old World loyalist left in WoW |
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| 16:31.45 | Kirochi | hey there children |
| 16:32.25 | Kirkburn | Amarande, doubt it :) |
| 16:32.29 | Kirkburn | Morning Kirochi |
| 16:32.44 | kd3 | huzzah, got past the eula accept screen |
| 16:32.45 | Kirochi | I failed my exams \o/ |
| 16:32.53 | kd3 | ouch |
| 16:33.18 | Adys | matieres? |
| 16:34.16 | Kirkburn | What's the name of the high elf faction? |
| 16:34.19 | Kirochi | culture générale (philo) et épreuve sur documents (géographie/sociologie) |
| 16:34.36 | Adys | rater la philo c'est moche :( |
| 16:34.48 | Adys | geo/socio ca peut passer |
| 16:34.48 | kd3 | uh, look up "Vas the Unstable" |
| 16:34.48 | Kirochi | nan la philo ça va à peu près :p |
| 16:34.53 | Kirochi | c'est l'autre qui me fait chier |
| 16:34.55 | Ose | covenant something |
| 16:34.57 | kd3 | he's the only named I ran into that's part of it |
| 16:35.04 | Kirkburn | Got it, thanks |
| 16:35.12 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Silver_Covenant |
| 16:35.50 | Amarande | How to remember you're spelling EULA correctly: |
| 16:35.55 | Amarande | Elua is blessed. Eula is cursed. :) |
| 16:36.18 | kd3 | rofl |
| 16:36.25 | kd3 | <3 those books |
| 16:36.27 | Kirkburn | I wonder how to find more NDA-deleted content |
| 16:36.38 | Amarande | ahh, I was about to wonder if anyone else here read Kushiel :) |
| 16:36.59 | amro | Kirochi: oh merde, je suis clairvoyant alors |
| 16:37.02 | kd3 | need to get her latest. |
| 16:37.12 | Amarande | I've only just started the first trilogy |
| 16:37.18 | Amarande | was reading Anne Bishop's Black Jewels trilogy before that |
| 16:37.23 | Kirochi | ouais, go respé aldor sale noob |
| 16:37.24 | Kirochi | :p |
| 16:37.40 | amro | hah |
| 16:37.43 | Kirochi | well yeah in a way it could be said you guessed I was going to fail |
| 16:37.55 | Amarande | (as a result, I am almost obligated to name any wolf pet I acquire Graysfang or maybe Ladvarian ... and if I get a cat I'll have to call it Kaelas) |
| 16:38.00 | Kirochi | doesn't matter anyway |
| 16:38.03 | Kirochi | (much :'() |
| 16:38.19 | Kirochi | categroy ? |
| 16:38.19 | amro | how do you know you failed though? instant grading? |
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| 16:39.09 | Kirochi | well |
| 16:39.25 | Kirochi | there were like 9 documents and 4 questions |
| 16:39.45 | Kirochi | I only wrote on 7 of them and couldn't finish the last two questions |
| 16:40.12 | Amarande | I think they need to get rid of "F-" and replace it with grade "EF" instead, in order to jell with the culture of modern student-age people :) |
| 16:40.35 | Kirochi | F-=Fisker- ? |
| 16:40.49 | Amarande | also, EF actually earns you contempt among your fellow students, so it would be more of an incentive not to get it than F- |
| 16:40.54 | Amarande | F- is what we call a failing grade below 50 |
| 16:41.01 | Amarande | as opposed to a simple F which is 50-59 |
| 16:41.13 | amro | F- is also known as "fucked" |
| 16:41.13 | Amarande | but like I said ... we should just call it EF. :) |
| 16:41.33 | amro | what would EF be? |
| 16:42.32 | Kirochi | people, gief screens of the beta |
| 16:42.48 | pcj | give keys of the beta imo |
| 16:43.03 | Adys | give source code of the beta tbh |
| 16:43.21 | pcj | give me final release actually |
| 16:43.57 | amro | give me proceeds from wotlk |
| 16:44.23 | Kirochi | Gimme |
| 16:44.28 | Kirochi | a man after midnight |
| 16:44.37 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 16:44.41 | Adys | just be patient |
| 16:44.56 | Kirkburn | Dammit, Adys, gmail doesn't refresh often enough! |
| 16:45.13 | Adys | you think? :P |
| 16:45.18 | Amarande | amro: EF = Epic fail |
| 16:45.32 | Adys | it refreshes every 60 seconds, and it refreshes when the server sends a call for it |
| 16:45.46 | Kirkburn | As I said... |
| 16:45.53 | winkiller | uhm, what webserver does wowwiki use now? |
| 16:46.00 | Adys | Apache 0.3 |
| 16:46.40 | Adys | Kirkburn: if you get a mail sent, you recieve it within the next 500ms |
| 16:46.48 | pcj | too damn long |
| 16:47.10 | Adys | it's pretty funny how I usually say "thanks for the mail" before the sender even finished sending it on his side |
| 16:47.21 | Kirkburn | As I said... |
| 16:47.42 | Kirkburn | I should receive it before it's even sent |
| 16:49.27 | Adys | I think you should recieve it a year and half before its sent |
| 16:49.35 | Adys | so you'd recieve it within the next few hours |
| 16:51.09 | winkiller | anyone got a snippet for a bot that works since the wikia move? |
| 16:51.16 | winkiller | (login) |
| 16:51.24 | pcj | have US beta keys gone out yet |
| 16:51.28 | Fisker- | yes |
| 16:51.35 | pcj | damn it |
| 16:51.43 | Amarande | is there a release date out yet? |
| 16:51.57 | Adys | tomorrow |
| 16:52.15 | Fisker- | well pcj i don't believe they can send out a lot a mails at a time |
| 16:52.23 | Fisker- | could be you're getting one later today :P |
| 16:53.26 | Fisker- | According to my sources it seems that EU is getting betas now as well |
| 16:53.39 | Adys | according to my mum ur mum sucks |
| 16:53.42 | Kirochi | Holy flying tomatoes |
| 16:53.48 | Kirochi | ALEXSTRASZA IS IN WOW |
| 16:53.57 | Adys | chromie aussi |
| 16:53.58 | Fisker- | no u Adys |
| 16:54.02 | Amarande | at least 70 raids aren't gonna be a waste of time gear-wise |
| 16:54.11 | Adys | et a sa droite y'a krasus |
| 16:54.12 | Adys | ^^ |
| 16:54.33 | Adys | jvais voir si j'ai le screenshot |
| 16:54.39 | Amarande | at least druids aren't going to be utterly screwed on their swift flight forms, either |
| 16:54.59 | Kirochi | ah wtf now. WoW gets interesting when I enter the univ |
| 16:54.59 | Amarande | though I still think they should drop heroic key requirements to friendly when Wrath comes out |
| 16:55.10 | Kirkburn | There aren't any requirements |
| 16:55.30 | Kirkburn | Last I recall, there's no heroic attunement |
| 16:55.44 | Amarande | Kirk: for the 70's? you still have to purchase the keys no? |
| 16:55.51 | Kirkburn | oh, for 70s |
| 16:55.53 | Amarande | which requires you have the right rep with the rep vendor |
| 16:56.11 | Amarande | main reason I'd like to see it dropped to friendly is to benefit druids on new servers after Wrath is out |
| 16:56.14 | Kirochi | hah |
| 16:56.26 | Amarande | since they will need to find 4 people who have Auchindoun heroic keys |
| 16:56.36 | Kirochi | I'm sure everyone's gonna be "Mounts at 5?!" when I'll graduate |
| 16:56.55 | Amarande | not saying the Anzu quest chain should be any easier of course |
| 16:57.04 | Adys | you graduate next year kirochi? :o |
| 16:57.05 | Amarande | but at least, make it easier for them to find party mates who can actually GO into heroic Sethekk |
| 16:57.18 | Kirochi | very funny |
| 16:57.19 | Kirochi | :p |
| 16:57.49 | Amarande | Otherwise you get your 80 guildies together and then you'd have to be like oops we need to run all these instances a few times so you can buy keys so you can help me :S |
| 16:57.52 | Kirochi | could you find the krasus screenshot? |
| 16:58.06 | Adys | je l'upload la |
| 16:58.09 | Kirochi | oki |
| 16:58.32 | Adys | http://s4.tinypic.com/2ufppb9.jpg |
| 16:58.38 | Adys | ignore the shit quality |
| 16:59.31 | amro | blegh blood elves |
| 16:59.40 | Kirochi | my god |
| 16:59.40 | amro | she should still be locked up in grim batol |
| 16:59.51 | Kirochi | my eyes burn, I have just seen the muradin thing |
| 16:59.52 | Adys | y'a chromie a gauche |
| 17:00.01 | Kirochi | worse than 2girls1cup |
| 17:00.04 | Adys | et le green dragonflight guy a droite |
| 17:00.13 | Amarande | actually you know what the most epic failure of Blizzard was in terms of quest design? |
| 17:00.24 | Adys | the winterspring quest |
| 17:00.25 | Adys | with shitdrop |
| 17:00.38 | amro | Deep Ocean, Vast Sea |
| 17:00.39 | Amarande | the blood elf pally epic mount quest |
| 17:00.46 | Adys | omg amro |
| 17:00.49 | Kirochi | Adys> <3 ton screen |
| 17:00.51 | Adys | I remember |
| 17:00.59 | Adys | patch... 1.3 ? |
| 17:01.18 | amro | what about 1.3? |
| 17:01.19 | Adys | "Players should now recieve an additional money reward for the quest Deep Ocean, Vast Sea" |
| 17:01.26 | amro | oh |
| 17:01.31 | amro | but they nerfed the quest itself later |
| 17:01.33 | amro | if I remember |
| 17:01.37 | Adys | yeah 2.0 |
| 17:01.40 | Amarande | Blood Elf Pally epic mount quest is fail for one specific reason. |
| 17:01.57 | amro | what about it? |
| 17:01.57 | Amarande | They KNEW when they released Burning Crusade THAT NO ONE WOULD GO TO STRAT OR SCHOLO unless basically dragged by the head |
| 17:02.05 | Adys | Kirochi: pendant 1 mois et demi j'ai joue sur un laptop de merde |
| 17:02.13 | Amarande | yet they require an uncommon drop from Scholo and a trip to Strat anyway |
| 17:02.17 | Adys | ca se voit pas la, mais sur le screen j'avais 5 fps |
| 17:02.27 | amro | makes it even with the others Amarande |
| 17:02.39 | Kirochi | et t'étais même pas en grèce lololol |
| 17:03.03 | Adys | bah des que je suis arrive en grece j'ai eu dans les 3 jours un pc de malade et une connection de ouf ^^ |
| 17:03.26 | Kirochi | rha :p |
| 17:04.22 | Amarande | lemme guess, they assume that Scholo groups will consist of a prot pally, a holy pally and 3 locks all wanting to do the mount quest? :) |
| 17:05.36 | amro | heh probably |
| 17:05.53 | amro | but there would have been lots of whining if it was easier for belfs |
| 17:06.02 | Adys | Kirochi: faut que je te montres un truc |
| 17:06.03 | Adys | sec |
| 17:06.36 | Kirochi | j'suis tout ouïe |
| 17:07.17 | Amarande | amro: you mean like the whining that's resulted in the fact that I've lost 16 AV in a row and my fellow horde don't really hope to win at all? |
| 17:07.41 | Amarande | and unfortunately, people like me are probably -why- I can't win AV on my main server anymore :S |
| 17:07.48 | amro | lol |
| 17:07.58 | amro | not that kind of whining, bit more reasonable whining |
| 17:08.14 | Amarande | I mean, that went down like this: |
| 17:08.25 | Amarande | Horde on Stormstrike (which happened to be the battlegroup I used to mostly play in) won AV all the time |
| 17:08.35 | Amarande | Alliance on Stormstrike got pissed off and lost heart and decided not to play AV anymore |
| 17:08.53 | Amarande | Horde on Stormstrike got 3 hour queues, and went to Blizzard to find a solution to that |
| 17:08.54 | Amarande | only thing Blizzard could come up with was to help Alliance win more so they'd be more willing to play |
| 17:09.03 | Amarande | which means on the battlegroups that were less imba, now Horde always loses |
| 17:09.39 | Amarande | I think I was able to lose 11 AV in roughly the time it would have taken me to play one on the other battlegroup LOL |
| 17:09.42 | Adys | Kirochi: http://s4.tinypic.com/2q0ojn7.jpg - before |
| 17:10.16 | Adys | http://s4.tinypic.com/13z0ehc.jpg after |
| 17:10.23 | Adys | and that last one is 1440x900 |
| 17:10.27 | Adys | stupid resize |
| 17:10.39 | Kirochi | ah |
| 17:10.43 | Kirochi | y'a comme un changement |
| 17:10.45 | Kirochi | :o |
| 17:10.48 | Adys | wai. |
| 17:10.48 | Adys | ^^ |
| 17:12.03 | Kirochi | ça doit faire plaisir aux yeux putain >< |
| 17:12.27 | Adys | 2 mois de all details min, 6 jours de all details max :) |
| 17:13.03 | Kirochi | j'ai halluciné quand j'ai vu les premiers screens de wotlk |
| 17:13.10 | Kirochi | en résolution max ça doit décoiffer |
| 17:13.43 | Adys | c'est beau ouais ;) |
| 17:13.47 | Adys | meme en min res |
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| 17:17.07 | sacarasc | so, with everything being able to be done with 10 people in Wrath, who thinks that 5 manning Sargeras will happen when he appears in the game? |
| 17:18.45 | pcj | ok |
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| 17:24.10 | kd3 | boo, the alpha portals in shattrath didn't survive the transition |
| 17:25.12 | sacarasc | how many people here got into the beta? (i want to murder you and steal your accounts) |
| 17:25.30 | Amarande | I wonder if Sargeras will even appear this expansion |
| 17:25.36 | Amarande | or if he will be a level 90 boss |
| 17:25.38 | Adys | kd3 kirkburn pb and me at least |
| 17:25.38 | Kirkburn | Amarande, very unlikely |
| 17:25.41 | Adys | the others i dont know |
| 17:25.43 | Amarande | surely, he has to be pretty much the FINAL FINAL boss |
| 17:25.51 | sacarasc | i'm thinking 3rd or 4th expansion |
| 17:25.55 | Kirkburn | Well, I /will/ be in the beta |
| 17:25.56 | Adys | people said that about illidan |
| 17:26.04 | Kirkburn | Well they were stupid |
| 17:26.07 | Amarande | Adys: well, given the lore about Sargeras ... the guy is pretty much a god |
| 17:26.12 | sacarasc | Kirkburn: account info plz ;p |
| 17:26.14 | Kirochi | I want |
| 17:26.17 | Kirochi | Sargeras |
| 17:26.19 | Amarande | Illidan was just a powerful night elf who had a bad aeon or so |
| 17:26.25 | Kirochi | to be resurrected by DRak'thul |
| 17:26.26 | kd3 | crap! I copied over with next to no netherweave |
| 17:26.35 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 17:26.38 | Kirochi | everyone thinks the old fart harmless |
| 17:26.48 | Kirochi | but I'm sure he can bring him back to life |
| 17:26.56 | Adys | sacarasc: kirkburn99 / ilikemalebutts_ido |
| 17:27.06 | Kirkburn | I love how the panthers in Team America are just kittens :P |
| 17:27.18 | sacarasc | writes this down for later |
| 17:27.26 | Adys | btw has sholazar or zd opened? |
| 17:27.34 | kd3 | they should be |
| 17:27.36 | kd3 | patch notes said ya |
| 17:27.38 | Amarande | I also get the feeling that there will only be one more expansion after Northrend |
| 17:27.38 | kd3 | I'm still in sw |
| 17:27.43 | Adys | oh nice |
| 17:27.46 | Amarande | presumably having to do with the Emerald Dream, with a level cap of 90 |
| 17:27.54 | Adys | when i went to sholazar first patch there was some nesingwary shit |
| 17:28.02 | Kirochi | we'll be missing the sea and all islands |
| 17:28.06 | Kirochi | and all other planets |
| 17:28.08 | Amarande | I get the feeling people are going to be irritated if the level cap gets much higher than 80-90 |
| 17:28.09 | Kirochi | that'd be sad |
| 17:28.11 | sacarasc | nesingwary's get everywhere |
| 17:28.24 | Amarande | well ... perhaps only one more expansion -that raises the level cap- then |
| 17:28.31 | Amarande | or maybe having to go to only five levels an expansion |
| 17:28.46 | Amarande | otherwise, people are going to start complaining that leveling an alt is essentially impossible to do in a reasonable period |
| 17:28.50 | Kirkburn | Look, we already have one expansion ready for you to worry about ... |
| 17:29.00 | kd3 | yay, they fixed collision in the harbor, dock's still insta-demount |
| 17:29.12 | Kirkburn | *cry* |
| 17:29.39 | Adys | i wish they'd put back Captain Placeholder for the docks |
| 17:29.45 | Adys | instead they put some random npcs |
| 17:29.57 | Adys | kd3: yea read about it |
| 17:29.58 | Adys | sucks |
| 17:30.30 | Adys | "About 3 minutes" left on dl |
| 17:30.31 | Adys | <sigh> |
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| 17:31.17 | Amarande | Adys: "About 3 minutes" ... this is the Blizzard Downloader's equivalent of "soon", right? :) |
| 17:31.20 | Kirochi | ragestorm |
| 17:31.21 | Kirochi | omg |
| 17:31.25 | Kirochi | did you see that |
| 17:31.26 | Adys | lol Amarande |
| 17:31.30 | Kirochi | lore is not lol anymore |
| 17:31.43 | Kirochi | we can show everyone that Alexstrasza EXISTS!!1 |
| 17:31.51 | Amarande | anyway, I think the 10/25 dual raids are a mega win and awesome invention for the new xpack |
| 17:32.00 | kd3 | hm. let's see if I can get mods working |
| 17:32.09 | Adys | crap |
| 17:32.13 | Adys | i have to fix my addont oo |
| 17:32.14 | Adys | too |
| 17:32.14 | Adys | :/ |
| 17:32.28 | Amarande | and that people who complain because "X can take out Y with # people" thinking # is too small ... just need to aim towards that level of skill rather than complain :) |
| 17:32.35 | Adys | blizz should make a lua environment similar to the game >< |
| 17:32.58 | amro | there was one |
| 17:32.58 | Kirkburn | Hey new files in the install |
| 17:33.03 | Kirkburn | Battle.net.dll |
| 17:33.08 | Kirochi | pex pex pex pex=>parse parse parse |
| 17:33.10 | Kirochi | ;-) |
| 17:33.16 | Amarande | oh god |
| 17:33.19 | kd3 | that's for our blizzard account login |
| 17:33.19 | Adys | lol Kirochi |
| 17:33.22 | amro | [[WoWBench]] |
| 17:33.22 | Dotted | amro meant: www.wowwiki.com/WoWBench |
| 17:33.24 | Amarande | they're not making WoW use Battle.net are they? |
| 17:33.27 | *** join/#wowwiki Ackis (n=asdf@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis) |
| 17:33.27 | infobot | watches Ackis pull the trigger. BANG! |
| 17:33.40 | Adys | wtf @ infobot? |
| 17:33.43 | Amarande | Battle.net just reminds me of Diablo II ... a game that was ruined by one man |
| 17:33.47 | Ackis | ahahh |
| 17:33.49 | Kirochi | ~roulette |
| 17:33.49 | infobot | ACTION watches kirochi pull the trigger: Click! |
| 17:33.49 | Kirkburn | kd3, related to the authenticator? |
| 17:34.01 | Adys | Kirkburn: No |
| 17:34.02 | kd3 | dunno about the auth. I'm logging in without mine |
| 17:34.12 | Kirochi | !jobqueue |
| 17:34.15 | Dotted | The job queue length is currently 250 |
| 17:34.18 | Adys | Fisker-: is the blizzard account necessary for login on EU? |
| 17:34.23 | Kirkburn | I also see msvcr80.dll |
| 17:34.38 | pcj | visual c |
| 17:34.48 | Kirochi | wtf |
| 17:34.49 | Adys | .. |
| 17:34.52 | amro | crappy c library |
| 17:34.58 | Kirochi | "Jobqueue at 250?!" |
| 17:35.27 | Kirkburn | It wasn't very forward thinking when they named the TBC folders "expansion" >_< |
| 17:35.35 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.35 | Adys | lol |
| 17:35.47 | Adys | Kirkburn: Expansion01 |
| 17:35.55 | Adys | they got room for 97 more expansions :) |
| 17:36.06 | Kirkburn | Well, they're gone for expansion and lichking |
| 17:36.23 | Kirkburn | For the MPQs |
| 17:36.23 | Adys | ah the mpqs |
| 17:36.30 | sacarasc | next will be sargeattacks |
| 17:36.41 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 17:36.46 | Adys | woot dl done |
| 17:37.00 | Amarande | Adys: Like I said ... I think the main limiting factor for more expansions is going to be the level cap |
| 17:37.11 | Kirochi | still waiting for L1050ETC to release their new song "Still alive" |
| 17:37.12 | Kirochi | :D |
| 17:37.15 | ralfWORK | I can't see how they can keep moving the level cap up |
| 17:37.36 | Adys | lmao Kirochi |
| 17:37.36 | Amarande | eventually one's going to get to the point where either we make leveling ridiculously trivial, or people whine because they can't level alts in a reasonable period and still raid, or they just can't raise the cap any further |
| 17:37.49 | kd3 | hm... let's see how broken my UI is in 30000 |
| 17:37.50 | Amarande | personally I don't see why they need to keep raising the cap ... GW did fine with a constant cap |
| 17:38.09 | Kirkburn | It's an entirely different kettle of fish |
| 17:38.22 | Adys | Amarande: Im pretty sure the lvl cap wont go over 4294967296 |
| 17:38.24 | ralfWORK | Amarande: how did they keep adding stuff with no cap raise? |
| 17:38.43 | Amarande | ralf: they just added more content for the max level |
| 17:38.51 | Amarande | although, GW's structure is more suited to that |
| 17:38.56 | ralfWORK | eh |
| 17:39.09 | ralfWORK | new content with different challenges or *tougher* challenges? |
| 17:39.18 | pcj | that would make it seem like forcing you to do the old content for gear to do the new stuff if you didn't start when gw started |
| 17:39.25 | Amarande | both, pretty much ... Nightfall and Eye of the North are real hard |
| 17:39.34 | Amarande | pcj: actually, max gear is easy to get in GW |
| 17:39.37 | Adys | What I'd like to see is a scaling system |
| 17:39.38 | winkiller | foxlit: *poke* |
| 17:39.42 | Amarande | max gear is considered basics in GW |
| 17:39.46 | foxlit | winkiller: wave :) |
| 17:39.54 | Adys | everything for the same level, but you get scaling points giving you better skills etc |
| 17:40.02 | Amarande | your true 'gear' is really learning skills and choosing the right skill set |
| 17:40.06 | winkiller | foxlit: do you remember having to make any changes to get foxbot to login after wikia move? |
| 17:40.23 | winkiller | this php stuff I have here seems to strangle on the redirects/login cookies |
| 17:40.48 | Amarande | so basically they just kept adding new areas, new missions and new skills |
| 17:41.05 | foxlit | Needed some adjustments, I think |
| 17:41.18 | Amarande | and new achievements ... GW was pretty much always heavily based around its achievement system |
| 17:41.20 | amro | GW - not a MMO |
| 17:41.23 | foxlit | but nothing memorable, I think |
| 17:41.43 | winkiller | damn |
| 17:41.49 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:41.50 | Adys | wat |
| 17:41.56 | amro | owned |
| 17:42.06 | Kirochi | adys |
| 17:42.09 | Kirkburn | d'oh |
| 17:42.09 | amro | oh I bet it only breaks with wine |
| 17:42.10 | kd3 | just run BC using ies4's wineprefix |
| 17:42.11 | Kirochi | PIZZOWNED |
| 17:42.11 | Adys | i got it installed |
| 17:42.12 | Adys | :/ |
| 17:42.22 | Adys | kd3: doh |
| 17:42.27 | Adys | i was always merging shit |
| 17:42.28 | winkiller | foxlit: do you have that login code snippet? |
| 17:42.30 | Adys | it annoyed me |
| 17:42.47 | Adys | kd3: do you get the memleak? |
| 17:42.53 | kd3 | I didn't notice |
| 17:43.02 | Amarande | say ... game mechanics: can regular garden variety orange mobs crush? |
| 17:43.04 | Adys | you're going to notice if you get that one believe me |
| 17:43.21 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/91544-1vr8 |
| 17:43.36 | selckin | Amarande: yes |
| 17:43.37 | Amarande | or non-boss instance elites |
| 17:43.56 | Amarande | thought so. I was mentioning to my guildies that if I went into a certain instance at a particular level I'd better have a GOOD healer |
| 17:44.03 | ralfWORK | I believe any NPC 3 levels higher than you can crush |
| 17:44.06 | ralfWORK | I could be wrong |
| 17:45.13 | selckin | yeah, something like that |
| 17:45.22 | Adys | IEs4Linux 2 is developed to be used with recent Wine versions (0.9.x). It seems that you are using an old version. It's recommended that you update your wine to the latest version (Go to: winehq.com). |
| 17:45.24 | Adys | drrrr |
| 17:45.30 | selckin | you won't get crushed at all by a lvl 72 like in heroics |
| 17:45.39 | ralfWORK | right |
| 17:45.39 | selckin | unless you're like lvl 68 |
| 17:45.44 | ralfWORK | hah |
| 17:45.46 | Amarande | OTOH, if you tried to tank BRD at 53, Thaurissan could crush you |
| 17:45.50 | ralfWORK | yea I guess that'd be true |
| 17:46.00 | ralfWORK | Thaurissian crushed chuck norris :( |
| 17:46.19 | Amarande | I think the only time I've tanked an instance where a boss was orange though was SM Library |
| 17:46.28 | Amarande | and I don't think Doan has anything that can crush (it doesn't work with spells, right?) |
| 17:46.44 | ralfWORK | can't be crushed by spells, correct |
| 17:48.14 | winkiller | oh wow, I got ArmoryProfileBot working again |
| 17:48.25 | Amarande | on the other hand, it makes me glad I didn't tank SM Cath till 38-39 |
| 17:48.30 | ralfWORK | hehe |
| 17:48.32 | Amarande | I was trying to decide for a long time whether to tank it at 37 or wait till 38 |
| 17:48.40 | Amarande | at 37 ... Moggy could crush me lol |
| 17:48.51 | ralfWORK | that's one thing I didn't like about raising my warrior |
| 17:49.01 | ralfWORK | when I raised my holy priest I could run anything |
| 17:49.05 | Amarande | ralf: healers could be lower level than you? :) |
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| 17:49.17 | selckin | get a 70 like everyone else |
| 17:49.19 | Amarande | this crushing mechanic kinda changes some of my thoughts about tanking |
| 17:49.22 | selckin | 1 pull whole place |
| 17:49.37 | Amarande | Initially, my thought was always that the tank should be the -lowest- level in the party |
| 17:49.46 | DuTempete | Kirochi: I'm fine, thanks for asking :) |
| 17:49.47 | Amarande | but perhaps this isn't always a good idea |
| 17:49.56 | ralfWORK | on my warrior, I had to worry about what level the bosses were and shit |
| 17:50.06 | selckin | Amarande: thats bull |
| 17:50.13 | ralfWORK | not just for crushes, but for me to be able to block and actually hit the boss |
| 17:50.22 | ralfWORK | 3 dodged shield slams in a row = sad tank |
| 17:50.32 | Adys | WTF is this shit animated gif |
| 17:50.36 | Adys | as installer background |
| 17:50.41 | selckin | stay within a ~3 level range of the mobs and you're fine |
| 17:50.44 | winkiller | rofl |
| 17:50.52 | ralfWORK | doesnt' matter anymore, I *am* 70 :P |
| 17:51.08 | ralfWORK | and no, you're not fine when you have DPS, which by default is retarded |
| 17:51.27 | Amarande | selckin: it mainly occurred to me as a way to help avoid accidental pulls |
| 17:51.44 | Amarande | if the tank is lowest level, he has the largest aggro radius and thus there will be no problems with healer/dps pulling accidentally because they're lower level |
| 17:51.51 | ralfWORK | ahahahaah |
| 17:51.53 | selckin | pff, non issue |
| 17:52.03 | ralfWORK | that's an interesting perspective |
| 17:52.11 | Adys | kd3: I think I still get the memory leak |
| 17:52.15 | Adys | great |
| 17:52.16 | Amarande | that was before I started a tank, though |
| 17:52.26 | Adys | closes all memory hungry apps |
| 17:52.29 | Adys | bbl |
| 17:52.50 | ralfWORK | not being able to actually pull crap without body aggro = suck |
| 17:53.15 | Fisker- | Adys no |
| 17:53.16 | Amarande | ralf: I was more thinking ... PUGs tend to crowd together, healer/dps body aggroing stuff that the tank is high enough level not to aggro = suck |
| 17:53.20 | Fisker- | email login is not enabled on EU |
| 17:53.23 | Fisker- | just login with your account |
| 17:53.34 | Fisker- | btw Kirkburn gotten your key yet? |
| 17:53.40 | ralfWORK | Amarande: yea, pugs tend to have melee hunters and rogues who think they can stealth the entire instance |
| 17:53.49 | ralfWORK | at least that's how it was with my warrior |
| 17:54.02 | ralfWORK | "don't stealth up to those guys" |
| 17:54.08 | ralfWORK | rogue: "don't worry I got it" |
| 17:54.18 | Amarande | actually I've only ever had one problem with stealth in instances I've tanked |
| 17:54.18 | ralfWORK | rogue proceeds to pull the mob and not know where their vanish button is |
| 17:54.21 | Kirkburn | I'm sure you'll hear when I do |
| 17:54.31 | Amarande | and that was because apparently a stealthed rogue can trigger the Antu'sul aggro event in ZF |
| 17:54.36 | Amarande | which apparently NONE of us knew beforehand |
| 17:54.47 | Amarande | that only took one wipe to learn, anyway heh |
| 17:55.28 | Fisker- | Kirkburn was just skimming over the last couple of hours and saw you talking about installation |
| 17:55.46 | Kirkburn | Oh, well, I have it installed |
| 17:56.11 | Amarande | in reality, thanks to the retarded instance changes in 2.3.0, level hardly matters that much if you are questing instances, except maybe in SM |
| 17:56.49 | ralfWORK | I'm glad to be 70 and able to tank heroics |
| 17:56.52 | ralfWORK | that's all that matters |
| 17:57.07 | Amarande | read: Blizzard nerfed the levels on the old world instances but failed to fix the levels on almost any of the instance quests |
| 17:57.31 | Kirochi | back |
| 17:57.33 | Kirochi | hello there DuTempete |
| 17:57.40 | Amarande | as a result, if you want to do all the quests, you'll have to be pretty much at the top of the instance level range anyway, or even a couple levels above (ST, in particular) |
| 17:57.41 | Kirochi | good to see you again :) |
| 17:57.54 | ralfWORK | or BRD :P |
| 17:58.08 | ralfWORK | I actually wanted to do BRD |
| 17:58.09 | Amarande | BRD I think you can pick up all the quests at 55 |
| 17:58.13 | Amarande | even the MC attunement |
| 17:58.17 | ralfWORK | but no one else did it |
| 17:58.26 | Amarande | the worst offender is definitely ST |
| 17:58.32 | ralfWORK | ST and Mara |
| 17:58.38 | ralfWORK | I never got a ST group |
| 17:58.42 | Amarande | there is NO WAY you are going to get all the quests there (barring a 70 running you) unless you are already 50-52 |
| 17:58.47 | ralfWORK | yea |
| 17:58.49 | DuTempete | how are you, Kirochi ? |
| 17:58.50 | Amarande | some of the chains that go there require you to be 50 just to -start- |
| 17:58.58 | Kirochi | not bad |
| 17:59.09 | Kirochi | well, bad actually |
| 17:59.13 | Kirochi | but not too much |
| 17:59.16 | Amarande | but even those that don't ... going all the way up Jintha'Alor for the egg? a lot of classes can have trouble with that at 52-53 even |
| 17:59.31 | ralfWORK | dude I hated that egg |
| 17:59.45 | Amarande | I had a 70 friend run me through Jintha and do the Shadra quest with me too |
| 17:59.56 | Amarande | Shadra ... that's another one they ruined with the instance nerfing |
| 18:00.23 | Amarande | back when ST was 50-60, it made sense, since it is -quite- clear that you are intended to do it with your ST group when you return to turn Jammal'an (sp?) the Prophet in to the Atal'ai exile nearby |
| 18:00.25 | ralfWORK | the ZF hammer was tough too |
| 18:00.31 | Amarande | it makes no sense with 44-50 ST, though |
| 18:01.06 | Amarande | (oh, what also sucks is when noobs summon Shadra and leave her there) |
| 18:01.14 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:01.35 | Amarande | I had a close call when I was on my way back to turn in the quest to the Atal'ai guy because of that |
| 18:01.40 | Amarande | I think I might have died if I wasn't a prot pally |
| 18:01.46 | ralfWORK | hahah |
| 18:01.58 | Amarande | well, let's see |
| 18:02.06 | Amarande | you need BoF and Cleanse to get rid of her snare effects |
| 18:02.22 | Amarande | then you need your bubble because running away from her in the direction you need to go is going to pick up some of the trolls at the top of the stairs |
| 18:03.31 | Amarande | Mara is not so bad level balance wise |
| 18:03.43 | Amarande | it's 40-49, and you pretty much pick up all the quests by 48 or so |
| 18:04.07 | Amarande | the one thing I hated about Mara was that the quest you pick up after you kill the Princess, well I got it when it was orange and couldn't turn it in till it was green |
| 18:04.13 | Amarande | I called my druid teammate a lucky bastard |
| 18:04.30 | ralfWORK | well mara just... |
| 18:04.36 | ralfWORK | I ran it like 10 times on my priest |
| 18:04.47 | ralfWORK | one saturady I spent ALL GODDAMN DAY in there on 1 mara run |
| 18:04.50 | ralfWORK | it was hell |
| 18:04.52 | Amarande | (you have to go to Mooglade to turn it in ... and thus you can't do that till you're already finished with Felwood) |
| 18:05.19 | ralfWORK | ah yes |
| 18:06.59 | Amarande | I'm not quite sure if it loses xp value though |
| 18:07.05 | Amarande | since I still got 10600 when it was green @ 54 |
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| 18:07.17 | Corgan | pokes Adys |
| 18:07.36 | Fisker- | Corgan! |
| 18:07.40 | Corgan | Fisker-! |
| 18:07.43 | Corgan | get me a beta key? |
| 18:07.45 | Fisker- | Corgan! |
| 18:07.48 | Fisker- | i can't :( |
| 18:07.51 | Corgan | :( |
| 18:08.11 | Amarande | ralf: it could be worse, you could be dreaming of Shattered Halls |
| 18:08.17 | Fisker- | get me a beta key Corgan? |
| 18:08.19 | ralfWORK | *shudder* |
| 18:08.20 | Amarande | which is what I'll probably be doing by the time my pally gets the epic sword I want to buy her |
| 18:08.24 | pcj | both of you, get me a beta key |
| 18:08.28 | winkiller | let's see if DarkRyder is still active |
| 18:08.29 | Corgan | nou |
| 18:08.29 | Fisker- | no u |
| 18:08.34 | ralfWORK | hah which one the honor hold sword? |
| 18:08.35 | Amarande | since apparently it requires ... exalted ... with ... Thrallmar ... ugh. |
| 18:08.35 | Fisker- | ~fail Corgan |
| 18:08.36 | infobot | Corgan, you Fail! |
| 18:08.42 | Corgan | nou infobot! |
| 18:08.45 | ralfWORK | isn't that a shit prot pally sword? |
| 18:08.53 | Amarande | the Thrallmar one, which is the same as the honor hold one pretty much |
| 18:08.57 | Amarande | actually, it's a pretty good prot pally sword |
| 18:09.00 | Adys | woot |
| 18:09.02 | Adys | installed |
| 18:09.04 | Adys | kd3: ping |
| 18:09.05 | Amarande | it's a caster blade, which is good |
| 18:09.10 | ralfWORK | ohhhh wait that |
| 18:09.11 | ralfWORK | ok |
| 18:09.18 | ralfWORK | forgot there are 2 epic swords |
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| 18:09.40 | ralfWORK | teh 2 places I haven't tanked yet are shattered halls and mgt |
| 18:09.46 | ralfWORK | I need to man up and do it though |
| 18:09.49 | Amarande | ralf: pally or warrior tank? |
| 18:09.52 | ralfWORK | warr |
| 18:10.01 | Amarande | please, respec fury for SH |
| 18:10.06 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 18:10.07 | Amarande | SH is for a pally tank, definitely |
| 18:10.10 | ralfWORK | no it's not |
| 18:10.14 | ralfWORK | I've never run it with a pally tank |
| 18:10.23 | ralfWORK | so go spam your concecration somewhere else ;) |
| 18:10.31 | Amarande | the only instance I can think of off the top of my head that's really bad for a pally tank is Slabs |
| 18:10.43 | ralfWORK | Amarande: why is slabs bad? |
| 18:10.48 | Amarande | ralf: Inciter |
| 18:10.57 | Amarande | pally tanks hold aggro better, from what I understand, but gain it slower |
| 18:11.02 | ralfWORK | the 2nd boss? |
| 18:11.08 | ralfWORK | he's a dickhead no matter the group |
| 18:11.13 | Amarande | when you have a boss that full party MCs and drops aggro a bit more than once a minute ... |
| 18:11.23 | ralfWORK | you get used to it |
| 18:11.29 | ralfWORK | I just spam intervene :P |
| 18:11.44 | Amarande | say, one thing that occurred to me about inciter |
| 18:11.50 | Amarande | if you are carrying any symbols of divinity |
| 18:11.52 | ralfWORK | heroic inciter sucks more |
| 18:11.56 | Amarande | can the MC make you hit the suicide button, or is that exempt? |
| 18:12.01 | Fisker- | The EU beta site will not be going live today. |
| 18:12.01 | Fisker- | The launch of the beta for Wrath of the Lich King is being done in many stages. Across all regions, not everyone who will be beta testing will be able to straight away. |
| 18:12.01 | Fisker- | In order to ensure everything is working correctly, the QA on the EU beta page continues and so the page will not be ready for launch today. We will update you again as and when we're able. |
| 18:12.02 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 18:12.11 | Corgan | ;_; |
| 18:12.13 | ralfWORK | because everyone does OMG damage by the time you do it in heroic |
| 18:12.22 | ralfWORK | you end up one-shotting eachother |
| 18:12.24 | ralfWORK | and it's retarded |
| 18:12.30 | Amarande | oy |
| 18:12.37 | Amarande | don't remind me, I have to go to heroic slabs for a quest on my lock |
| 18:12.48 | ralfWORK | we had our mage put on her gruul mage-tank gear |
| 18:12.58 | ralfWORK | so she'd have less damage output and more HP :P |
| 18:14.30 | Adys | http://s4.tinypic.com/2ypkjnc.jpg |
| 18:14.36 | Adys | what am I supposed to do with that >< |
| 18:14.48 | Amarande | on the good side, the fact that you can only survive so many MC cycles on heroic |
| 18:14.54 | Amarande | THAT is how I always thought an enrage timer should be implemented |
| 18:15.04 | Amarande | not the namby pamby "oops time's up! bye!" ones we keep getting in BC raids |
| 18:15.14 | ralfWORK | sorry I don't follow |
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| 18:15.21 | ralfWORK | what form of timer are you in favor of? |
| 18:15.33 | Amarande | ralf: enrage timer that's an inherent result of boss's abilities = good. enrage timer that's just a wipeout nuke timer = bad |
| 18:15.34 | ralfWORK | the so-called soft-enrages? |
| 18:15.43 | ralfWORK | i.e. prince? |
| 18:15.46 | Amarande | like ... take Faerlina for instance, that's enrage timer done right |
| 18:15.56 | ralfWORK | eh. idk Faerlina :P |
| 18:16.20 | Amarande | but basically, I'm in favor of timers that follow naturally from how the boss's abilities are designed |
| 18:16.26 | Amarande | rather than a special wipe ability that's just there to be a timer |
| 18:16.31 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 18:16.36 | ralfWORK | you mean like gruul? |
| 18:16.47 | ralfWORK | naturally scales in dmg as time passse |
| 18:16.55 | Amarande | i.e. "you are only going to be able to survive this long with the beatings you're going to take before the healers stop being able to catch up" |
| 18:17.09 | Amarande | Gruul sounds like one that's pretty well done too |
| 18:17.27 | Fisker- | Corgan i hate you |
| 18:17.31 | Corgan | ok |
| 18:17.32 | Amarande | or Kaz'rogal, too |
| 18:18.24 | foxlit | Personally, I dislike Kaz'rogal's timer mechanism |
| 18:18.33 | ralfWORK | I don't know dick about that boss either :P |
| 18:18.44 | foxlit | It messes too much with casters personally |
| 18:19.05 | Amarande | foxlit: it leaves a lot more room for the raid to find ways to survive longer |
| 18:19.16 | pcj | amarande, on DI in the MC in SL, none of the other players are friendly when you're MC'd |
| 18:19.17 | foxlit | Not a noble goal, imo |
| 18:19.17 | Adys | whats enMX? |
| 18:19.20 | Amarande | thus, allows for more strategic detail than ones that are "oops you didn't have enough +spell dmg on your gear? TOO BAD!" |
| 18:19.27 | kd3 | latin america |
| 18:19.29 | foxlit | Enrages are primarily there to prevent you from stacking healers |
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| 18:19.38 | foxlit | It fails to do that, horribly |
| 18:19.48 | Amarande | which means that the timer mechanism is epic fail |
| 18:19.59 | Fisker- | Well same thing as we're saying in multiple threads, we hope the finalised EU beta page will be up in the new week. This will most likely include fully functional Character Copies. |
| 18:19.59 | Amarande | and thus that soft enrages like Gruul or Faerlina are much better design in general |
| 18:20.11 | winkiller | [[User:CrazyLilAznChik]] wins a naming contest. but I'm not sure which... |
| 18:20.11 | Dotted | winkiller meant: www.wowwiki.com/User:CrazyLilAznChik |
| 18:20.17 | foxlit | Amarande: your conclusion doesn't match what you just agreed to |
| 18:20.18 | Amarande | I wonder if Naxx80 is going to still have the same bosses as Naxx60 |
| 18:20.34 | foxlit | Kaz'Rogal is a "soft" enrage per your definition - ability spam drives you out of mana |
| 18:21.00 | Fisker- | The least they could do when fucking up is actually work on the problem instead of taking the weekend off |
| 18:21.00 | Fisker- | wee |
| 18:21.11 | Amarande | what I mean is that things like say Archimonde type enrage = bad |
| 18:21.31 | pcj | bah |
| 18:21.35 | foxlit | Frankly, if you ever reach archimonde's enrage... :) |
| 18:21.42 | pcj | new mail alert > rush to check e-mail > bah, no beta key |
| 18:21.50 | Amarande | or I could call it, since more people here probably have played Final Fantasy X than raided T6 |
| 18:21.52 | foxlit | Brutallus has an enrage that's done right; so does Illidan, but for different reasons. |
| 18:21.55 | Amarande | the 'Overdrive Sin' type enrage |
| 18:22.07 | ralfWORK | Amarande: you'd prefer enrages such as last boss in Steamvaults? |
| 18:22.12 | ralfWORK | eh. I guess that's not really an enrage |
| 18:22.23 | Amarande | I liked the last boss in SV |
| 18:22.28 | ralfWORK | the "omg you didn't click boxes NOW YOU PAY" |
| 18:22.30 | *** join/#wowwiki amro (n=amro@82.101.184.171) |
| 18:22.51 | Amarande | of course if you can't click boxes for SV, you're not gonna get to T6 anyway heh |
| 18:23.00 | Amarande | since your guild will get stuck on Maggie forever lol |
| 18:23.02 | pcj | of course SV is entirely easy to just ignore the boxes and still beat it |
| 18:23.12 | ralfWORK | pcj: when you have the gear it is yes |
| 18:23.44 | pcj | because it's so hard to get gear |
| 18:23.56 | ralfWORK | outgearing makes everything easy |
| 18:23.59 | ralfWORK | sorry |
| 18:24.01 | ralfWORK | *easier |
| 18:24.07 | ralfWORK | except heroic shadowlabs ;) |
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| 18:24.51 | Amarande | I think that may have been one of the unique charms of GW |
| 18:25.12 | Amarande | you -could not- gear past basic max gear's level. you -could not- simply level further. you -had- to take the strategic approach everywhere |
| 18:26.20 | ralfWORK | dunno, I don't think I follow |
| 18:26.24 | ralfWORK | but maybe I'd have to play GW |
| 18:30.06 | pcj | http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9206HNO2&show_article=1 |
| 18:31.04 | Kirochi | moomoney, I love you |
| 18:31.05 | Amarande | hey, mechanics thing. |
| 18:31.09 | Kirochi | wrong chan |
| 18:31.09 | Kirochi | >< |
| 18:31.23 | winkiller | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_Shadowfang_Keep rofl |
| 18:31.34 | Amarande | any idea why when I level up, my Defense maxes out again pretty quickly afterwards, but I pretty much have almost dung the next level by the time my sword skill maxes again? |
| 18:31.54 | ralfWORK | Amarande: seems that way, yes |
| 18:32.00 | winkiller | Amarande: you play the wrong class |
| 18:32.04 | Kirochi | winkiller> why not make one for RFC? |
| 18:32.15 | winkiller | Amarande: my rogue had 349 defense for 2 months after hitting 70 |
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| 18:33.37 | Amarande | I've got a pretty fast swing speed on my sword too so it kinda puzzles me |
| 18:34.16 | ralfWORK | try leveling guns as a warrior |
| 18:34.21 | ralfWORK | it'll be a damn year |
| 18:34.46 | Kirochi | ralfWORK |
| 18:34.55 | ralfWORK | Kirochi: |
| 18:34.57 | Kirochi | do you need high-level bullets to level guns? |
| 18:35.06 | Adys | Anyone who installed the EU client? |
| 18:35.12 | ralfWORK | I don't see why you would |
| 18:35.20 | ralfWORK | but I just buy the level 65 bullets and call it a day |
| 18:35.27 | ralfWORK | not like they cost *that* much |
| 18:35.27 | Kirochi | ok |
| 18:35.30 | Fisker- | <-i have |
| 18:35.36 | Kirochi | I said what-what |
| 18:35.43 | Fisker- | got no key of course |
| 18:36.09 | Adys | Fisker-: realmlist? |
| 18:36.28 | Fisker- | set realmlist 12.129.236.111 |
| 18:36.43 | Adys | still the same ones |
| 18:36.46 | Adys | thanks |
| 18:37.19 | Adys | yup can login with US client |
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| 18:41.19 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, did you find a world map? |
| 18:42.39 | kd3 | I'm stitching together the world maps now |
| 18:42.43 | kd3 | sec and they'll get uploaded |
| 18:42.59 | Fisker- | the guy who was supposed to screenshot it forgot :P |
| 18:43.02 | Kirkburn | I meant the all-Azeroth, and cool |
| 18:43.03 | Fisker- | but kd3 is fixing it |
| 18:43.03 | Fisker- | :P |
| 18:43.23 | Slix | o_o |
| 18:43.33 | Slix | Who's bright idea was it to tell me to go on the recommended servers? |
| 18:43.39 | Amarande | ralf: don't you still successfully pull even if you miss with a gun, though? |
| 18:43.46 | ralfWORK | Amarande: yes |
| 18:43.47 | Amarande | that's all warriors really need guns for anyway |
| 18:43.51 | Slix | Newbs keep kill stealing the poor priest that just cast Power Word: Fortitude on them.. |
| 18:43.57 | ralfWORK | doesn't change how annoying it is |
| 18:44.13 | ralfWORK | Slix: eh? |
| 18:44.37 | Slix | I just started, but i went onto the server that it recommended for me. |
| 18:44.42 | ralfWORK | sure |
| 18:44.43 | Slix | And im surrounded by idiots |
| 18:44.47 | ralfWORK | oh yes |
| 18:44.50 | ralfWORK | well that's warcraft |
| 18:44.56 | Slix | Its taking me twice as long to complete quests x_x;; |
| 18:45.01 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:45.35 | Kirkburn | Dammit, i can't view unused images past the 100 mark |
| 18:45.37 | Kirkburn | Need to cut down on them so I can relink kd3's |
| 18:45.59 | Kirkburn | Past the 1000 mark, even |
| 18:47.41 | pcj | kirkburn: Just view kd3's contribs in the image namespace |
| 18:47.45 | Sandwichman2448 | Does you screen go white? |
| 18:47.54 | Kirkburn | pcj, that doesn't tell me if they're unused |
| 18:47.54 | Sandwichman2448 | *your |
| 18:48.03 | kd3 | there should be maybe 6 unused images I uploaded, hopefully |
| 18:48.20 | kd3 | s/I uploaded/that got uploaded for me/ |
| 18:48.46 | Kirkburn | hey, it was essentially you |
| 18:50.02 | kd3 | taps his foot waiting on multiupload |
| 18:50.53 | winkiller | wow, this guy on Blade's Edge hit 70 yesterday |
| 18:50.59 | Kirkburn | kd3, you have moooore? |
| 18:51.05 | winkiller | new server opened 8 days before |
| 18:51.10 | kd3 | ya |
| 18:51.21 | Sandwichman2448 | I went back over some of the overwritten pages. |
| 18:51.25 | Sandwichman2448 | Added lore. |
| 18:51.40 | Sandwichman2448 | Bots are good, but eat lore. |
| 18:52.14 | Kirkburn | thanks |
| 18:53.09 | Adys | oookay |
| 18:53.12 | Adys | addon broken |
| 18:53.33 | kd3 | yah, I gave up and went back to the defualt UI |
| 18:53.40 | Kirochi | rho mec |
| 18:53.46 | Adys | ooooookay |
| 18:53.48 | Kirochi | regarde ce que j'ai réussi à leur faire avaler |
| 18:53.49 | Kirochi | http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4784/dscf00034wd8.jpg |
| 18:53.49 | Adys | AceConsole broken |
| 18:53.55 | Kirochi | que je viens de me faire tatouer ça |
| 18:54.02 | Adys | rox photoshop |
| 18:54.05 | Kirochi | ils me prennent tous pour un taré sur #machinima |
| 18:54.21 | Kirochi | <Hergonan> didn't tupac die once? |
| 18:54.22 | Kirochi | <Kirochi> yeah but now he's back |
| 18:54.22 | Kirochi | <Kirochi> :( |
| 18:54.22 | Kirochi | <Kirochi> he's in my heart forever |
| 18:54.22 | Kirochi | <faizer> :D |
| 18:54.22 | Kirochi | <Hergonan> :o |
| 18:54.58 | Kirochi | en fait je me suis tapé un délire |
| 18:55.06 | Kirochi | en épreuve sur documents je me faisais chier |
| 18:55.17 | Kirochi | alors j'ai pris mon stylo plume et j'ai écrit "tupac shakur" sur ma main |
| 18:55.41 | Kirochi | et en revenant ma mère m'a fait "wow t'as un vrai tatouage comme les rappeurs"... elle savait même pas que tupac c'tait un rappeur :p |
| 18:55.46 | Kirochi | alors je suis parti dans le trip |
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| 18:56.44 | Adys | (c'est super) |
| 18:57.12 | Kirochi | (mais heu) |
| 18:57.21 | Kirochi | (je sais c'est pas super intelligent) |
| 18:57.41 | Dotted | (fail) |
| 18:57.42 | Adys | yup Dotted |
| 18:58.46 | pcj | oh god the next profession skill level is grand master |
| 18:58.47 | pcj | so gay |
| 18:59.30 | Adys | :P |
| 19:00.15 | Kirkburn | Next profession: flashing. |
| 19:00.32 | Kirkburn | (hint: put the two together) |
| 19:01.12 | pcj | achievement unlocked: 5 children molested |
| 19:01.13 | Sandwichman2448 | lol |
| 19:01.34 | Kirkburn | pcj, Grand Master Flash(er) |
| 19:01.44 | winkiller | AJAXer, not Flasher |
| 19:01.47 | Amarande | pcj: wonder how much confusion that will cause on the servers |
| 19:02.01 | Amarande | where people have to constantly clarify GM (profession) vs. GM (game master) |
| 19:02.13 | Amarande | I think they had that problem with ... Ultima Online back in the day? |
| 19:02.15 | pcj | people don't usually say their skill level |
| 19:02.22 | pcj | theyll just say 450 jc lfw |
| 19:02.25 | Dotted | Grand Marshal? Amarande |
| 19:02.37 | Kirochi | Grand Molester |
| 19:04.11 | TecnoBrat | http://www.wowwiki.com/Instructor_Razuvious <= no lore? :( |
| 19:04.46 | Kirochi | fuck no |
| 19:04.52 | Kirochi | why would there be any lore on him |
| 19:04.56 | Kirochi | he looks like crap |
| 19:05.04 | Adys | http://s4.tinypic.com/16av78g.jpg :D |
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| 19:05.22 | foxlit | that's what SHE said |
| 19:05.49 | winkiller | ROFL |
| 19:06.28 | pcj | adys: is that a calendar in the upper-right |
| 19:06.35 | *** part/#wowwiki kd3 (n=kd3@user-11215mn.dsl.mindspring.com) |
| 19:06.37 | Adys | yes |
| 19:06.41 | pcj | is that an addon |
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| 19:06.48 | Adys | "Couldn't load Blizzard_Calendar: Missing" |
| 19:06.50 | Adys | :) |
| 19:06.52 | pcj | hmmm |
| 19:06.56 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o kd3] by ChanServ |
| 19:07.28 | pcj | what bags did they give you |
| 19:07.30 | Adys | wtf |
| 19:07.38 | Adys | world map not fixed >< |
| 19:07.40 | pcj | gg+ |
| 19:07.45 | Adys | 4x12slots |
| 19:07.50 | Adys | deathweave bag |
| 19:07.55 | pcj | lame |
| 19:08.04 | pcj | any money |
| 19:08.19 | Adys | 10g |
| 19:08.23 | pcj | hmm |
| 19:09.20 | foxlit | spam dk for profits! |
| 19:10.34 | Corgan | hugs Adys |
| 19:11.04 | Corgan | lol adys |
| 19:11.09 | Corgan | trashbringer |
| 19:11.14 | pcj | so what is the name: "Acherus, the Ebon Hold", "Acherus: the Ebon Hold", "Acherus", or"Ebon Hold" |
| 19:11.23 | Adys | Acherus: The Ebon Hold |
| 19:11.26 | kd3 | worldmap-world's getting overriden. new maps that are finished have all been uploaded |
| 19:11.57 | Fisker- | GIEF PICTAR |
| 19:12.03 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Coordinate-safe_maps |
| 19:12.15 | Adys | Corgan: hugging me once every month wont get you a key nor anything else apart from getting santa very sad |
| 19:12.24 | Corgan | hugs Adys |
| 19:12.50 | Kirkburn | pcj, it's a comma |
| 19:12.57 | Kirkburn | Gah |
| 19:12.57 | Adys | Not in game |
| 19:13.02 | Kirkburn | You sure? |
| 19:13.07 | pcj | look at his screenshot |
| 19:13.07 | Adys | Im there |
| 19:13.08 | Adys | so yes |
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| 19:13.15 | Kirkburn | Huh, that's odd |
| 19:13.22 | Kirkburn | Sure I saw it differently earlier |
| 19:13.34 | Adys | there may be another place :) |
| 19:13.39 | kd3 | hm... what else to pull out of the mpqs? |
| 19:13.53 | Adys | porn |
| 19:13.58 | Fisker- | Well the map seems to be correct now |
| 19:14.29 | Kirochi | C'est un fameux trois-mâts fin comme un oiseau |
| 19:15.00 | Adys | :D |
| 19:15.18 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 19:15.26 | Fisker- | now there are 2 people from my guild claiming they are in the beta |
| 19:15.39 | pcj | something's weird with the wiki |
| 19:16.08 | Kirkburn | mm, the maps looks fantastic |
| 19:16.11 | Kirkburn | pcj, how so? |
| 19:16.17 | pcj | idk maybe its just me |
| 19:16.27 | pcj | when i submit stuff it takes me back to as if the page still doesn't exist |
| 19:16.32 | Adys | ebon hold map does look quite awesome :) |
| 19:16.33 | Kirkburn | Ah, caching |
| 19:16.47 | Kirkburn | Yeah, when load calms down a bit you shouldn't see that |
| 19:16.53 | kd3 | >.> |
| 19:17.01 | Kirkburn | Reload and it'll be there |
| 19:17.27 | Kirkburn | Cool that they totally redid the azeroth map |
| 19:17.41 | Adys | huh? |
| 19:17.51 | Kirkburn | Compare: http://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/images/b/b3/WorldMap-World.jpg and http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/archive/b/b3/20080718191123!WorldMap-World.jpg |
| 19:18.02 | Amarande | hmm ... is the beta perhaps why we have so much lag on Quel'dorei? |
| 19:18.16 | Adys | thats not redone |
| 19:18.19 | Adys | thats just scaled down |
| 19:18.23 | kd3 | doubt it. wrath stuff's on completely separate hardware |
| 19:18.33 | Kirkburn | No, it's redone Adys, look at the mountains |
| 19:18.35 | Adys | wrath stuff is on US realms at that |
| 19:18.41 | kd3 | like always |
| 19:18.42 | Kirkburn | Also, Kezan is has moved south |
| 19:18.46 | Adys | well yea that too kirk |
| 19:18.54 | kd3 | PTRs are always in LA, aren't they? |
| 19:19.02 | Kirkburn | The island off Kalimdor is a different shape too |
| 19:19.17 | Adys | OMG THIS MEANS THEY R WORKING ON THAT CONTENT KIRK? |
| 19:19.22 | Adys | NEXT EXPANSION LEAK KIRK? |
| 19:19.24 | Adys | AM I RIGHT KIRK? |
| 19:19.28 | Fisker- | Kirkburn i meant in comparison to the "alpha" map |
| 19:19.34 | Kirkburn | Adys, shush |
| 19:19.37 | Fisker- | In that map pretty much Silithus and Un'Goro was cut off |
| 19:19.38 | Adys | lmao |
| 19:19.48 | kd3 | meh, that was the wow alpha map, wasn't it? |
| 19:19.57 | Fisker- | yeah with northrend pasted in |
| 19:19.59 | Adys | It was yes |
| 19:20.32 | Kirkburn | kd3, can you check the continent maps? |
| 19:20.33 | Kirochi | is listening to Bob Dylan-When the ship comes in |
| 19:20.36 | Kirkburn | Also Stormwind I guess |
| 19:20.44 | kd3 | crap, thought I got stormwind |
| 19:20.58 | Kirkburn | Nay |
| 19:20.58 | Adys | stormwind map did get redone |
| 19:21.08 | Adys | now half of it is empty >< |
| 19:21.10 | pcj | hmm what zone is dalaran in |
| 19:21.14 | Adys | got scaled down to bits |
| 19:21.16 | Adys | crystalsong |
| 19:21.25 | Kirkburn | Damn Adys was too quick |
| 19:21.33 | Adys | Kirkburn: no continent map redone |
| 19:21.49 | Adys | nor outland etc |
| 19:21.56 | pcj | Can you go there yet? Last I knew it was still being worked on |
| 19:21.58 | Corgan | gass at Adys |
| 19:22.09 | Adys | pcj: to stormwind harbour? |
| 19:22.10 | Adys | yes |
| 19:22.13 | Kirkburn | Corgan, keep your gas to yourself |
| 19:22.14 | pcj | to dalaran |
| 19:22.20 | Adys | damn Kirkburn was too quick |
| 19:22.21 | Kirkburn | It's open |
| 19:22.23 | Adys | yes now you can |
| 19:22.30 | Adys | I cant go there though |
| 19:22.32 | pcj | fail |
| 19:22.40 | Adys | I got 6 lvl 75 locked and my dk >< |
| 19:22.44 | Adys | ... 55 |
| 19:22.51 | kd3 | neither can I. the mage attunement quest is minlevel 71 at least |
| 19:22.53 | pcj | we need screenshots of dalaran double quick |
| 19:23.28 | Adys | shit ebon hold looks awesome |
| 19:23.42 | pcj | at least find out what dalaran's previous location looks like |
| 19:23.49 | kd3 | think I put up a long-range shot of dalaran somewhere |
| 19:23.52 | kd3 | sw map's on the wiki |
| 19:24.13 | Adys | dalaran was just visible if you had max distance right at the bridge north of dragonblight |
| 19:24.20 | kd3 | ya |
| 19:24.20 | pcj | that looks really messed up |
| 19:24.23 | winkiller | do we have a "recently added from beta" category? |
| 19:24.36 | pcj | winkiller: that'd mean we'd just have to take it out again |
| 19:24.37 | Adys | no winkiller and I doubt that'd be a good idea |
| 19:24.37 | Kirkburn | Oh, about the SW map - this is going to mess up co-ords, I guess |
| 19:24.45 | pcj | yes it will |
| 19:24.50 | Adys | big time Kirkburn ^^ |
| 19:24.55 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Dalaran_from_Dragonblight.jpg |
| 19:24.57 | pcj | gj kd3 way to break it |
| 19:25.04 | Kirkburn | kd3, I might suggest reverting and putting it up as a secondary image for now |
| 19:25.08 | Adys | Taking bets on how many databases wont autoscale the coords ! |
| 19:25.14 | Kirkburn | This one! |
| 19:25.26 | pcj | which one? |
| 19:25.31 | Kirkburn | That one! |
| 19:25.37 | Adys | Taking bets on how many expansions thottbot will need to fix them? |
| 19:25.58 | Kirkburn | kd3, ooh, pretty |
| 19:26.16 | Kirkburn | I'd love to stand underneath and see people jump off |
| 19:26.43 | Adys | hahah |
| 19:26.48 | Adys | that reminds me of that dlc |
| 19:27.33 | winkiller | Adys, pcj: I meant more like a "hub" to watch - not a real category, that would indeed be stupid |
| 19:27.47 | pcj | k how would you implement that |
| 19:27.58 | winkiller | I have no clue, that's why I ask |
| 19:28.09 | winkiller | WW:RC is also mostly voodoo |
| 19:28.23 | winkiller | the merging and url highlighting |
| 19:28.38 | pcj | eww, you still look at that? |
| 19:28.56 | winkiller | you know what I mean |
| 19:29.02 | winkiller | I use the thing with the ajax checkbox |
| 19:29.08 | winkiller | never access it by url |
| 19:29.16 | winkiller | guess it's normal S:RecentChanges |
| 19:29.29 | pcj | URL highlighting? |
| 19:29.37 | winkiller | WW:RC had that |
| 19:29.47 | pcj | *explode* |
| 19:29.53 | Kirkburn | crucially, we're getting cache problems - changes aren't showing up when you edit, unless you refresh. Can make images look like the upload failed. |
| 19:30.00 | winkiller | pcj: /nick humpty_dumpty |
| 19:30.05 | Fisker- | hmm Adys |
| 19:30.21 | Fisker- | Has screenshots |
| 19:30.34 | Adys | hm? |
| 19:30.44 | Fisker- | Guy who claims he's gotten a beta |
| 19:30.46 | Fisker- | key |
| 19:31.00 | Adys | well? |
| 19:31.27 | Fisker- | He showed me a screenshot of the character copy |
| 19:31.28 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 19:31.32 | Corgan | ;_; |
| 19:31.50 | Adys | sounds absolutely awesome lol |
| 19:31.55 | Fisker- | yeah! |
| 19:32.40 | kd3 | taps his foot waiting for the mpq extract to finish |
| 19:32.57 | Adys | kd3: update mpqedit btw |
| 19:33.05 | kd3 | I'm using mpqedit2 |
| 19:33.14 | kd3 | he finally enable multi-threading? |
| 19:33.36 | Adys | Not yet, but talked to him to fix some bugs to make it work better under wine recently |
| 19:33.51 | Adys | namely disable that auto write-lock |
| 19:34.34 | Adys | hahah |
| 19:34.57 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.10 | Kirkburn | o_O |
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| 19:36.00 | Adys | btw kd3 check gtalk |
| 19:36.41 | kd3 | saw the bz report |
| 19:36.48 | Adys | ah |
| 19:38.16 | Adys | woo |
| 19:38.22 | Adys | items :) |
| 19:40.06 | kd3 | whee... c'mon minimap texture stitcher script |
| 19:43.13 | kd3 | whee, northrend's looking a lot better in this build on the minimap |
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| 19:43.52 | kd3 | the dalaran bubble's still on the azeroth map, though |
| 19:43.54 | kd3 | huh |
| 19:44.10 | amro | I was wondering what they were going to do there |
| 19:44.14 | amro | ~fail Blizzard |
| 19:44.15 | infobot | Blizzard: FAIL! |
| 19:44.27 | kd3 | I haven't been to alterac, just looking at minimap data |
| 19:44.39 | amro | oh |
| 19:44.42 | amro | but it's probably still there |
| 19:44.47 | amro | since they didn't say anything in the patch notes |
| 19:45.34 | Kirochi | ~fail Britney Spears |
| 19:45.35 | infobot | Britney Spears: FAIL! |
| 19:45.50 | Kirochi | http://www.deezer.com/track/49220 |
| 19:46.07 | amro | deezer fails |
| 19:46.13 | amro | buggiest site ever |
| 19:53.36 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4965848358&sid=1#4 official confirmation btw |
| 19:53.48 | kd3 | hokay. there's a massive hole in the ground where alterac was |
| 19:53.59 | kd3 | the bubble's still kinda there as a residual effect of the last few years |
| 19:54.04 | kd3 | floating rocks, mass insanity |
| 19:54.11 | amro | screenshots |
| 19:54.13 | kd3 | sses in a few, trying to find NPCs explaining the situation |
| 19:54.41 | amro | is it a chasm or can you go in? |
| 19:55.04 | kd3 | you can go in. I'm falling my way to the bottom now |
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| 19:58.51 | Kirochi | I'm coughing blood |
| 19:58.55 | Kirochi | shit |
| 19:58.55 | Kirochi | brb |
| 19:58.56 | Ose | nice |
| 19:59.20 | Ose | "afk, tornado" (bash) |
| 20:04.49 | kd3 | achievements stage 1 of 184048506 up |
| 20:05.57 | amro | did you get any feats? |
| 20:06.20 | Kirochi | back |
| 20:06.25 | kd3 | I've got 840 points atm |
| 20:07.06 | Kirochi | that hurts |
| 20:07.17 | Kirochi | my lungs are pledging allegiance to my doom |
| 20:07.25 | Kirochi | Imagine if I had been a smoker |
| 20:07.53 | amro | what happened? |
| 20:09.39 | Kirochi | j'ai craché du sang |
| 20:10.03 | amro | yeah ca j'ai bien compris, mais la cause est ...? |
| 20:10.08 | Kirochi | je tousse comme un fou |
| 20:10.08 | Kirochi | c'est horrible |
| 20:10.22 | amro | =( |
| 20:10.29 | Kirochi | aucune idée |
| 20:10.31 | Kirochi | ça a commencé y'a |
| 20:10.38 | Kirochi | un mois et demi |
| 20:10.57 | Kirochi | quand ma copine a dit qu'elle pensait qu'on devait arrêter |
| 20:10.59 | Kirochi | coup de froid |
| 20:11.06 | Kirochi | je suis tombé malade avant le bac |
| 20:11.09 | amro | y'a pas de medecins chez vous? |
| 20:11.11 | Kirochi | et ça s'est pas calmé depuis |
| 20:11.12 | Kirochi | si si |
| 20:11.22 | Kirochi | mais ils te guérissent pas si tu les connais déjà |
| 20:11.34 | Kirochi | sinon tu reviens plus et ils sont tristes |
| 20:12.44 | amro | je parle de medecins pas d'escrocs -) |
| 20:13.31 | Amarande | WHY WON'T BLIZZARD FIX E134 |
| 20:13.41 | Amarande | every time someone even posts a thread about E134, they lock and delete it |
| 20:13.56 | Amarande | like there's some sort of important security reason for E134 to be the way it is and that it CANNOT be fixed without threatening the game |
| 20:14.14 | Kirkburn | They lock /and/ delete it? Sounds excessive :P |
| 20:14.26 | Kirochi | ah ben dans ce cas-là nan on n'en a pas |
| 20:14.26 | Amarande | actually, why can't they do data read errors like GW where they just show a big white box in place of graphics that can't be read? |
| 20:14.27 | Kirochi | :D |
| 20:14.39 | Amarande | or would that be cheater friendly? |
| 20:15.01 | Amarande | i.e., everyone would deliberately damage their MPQs so that stealthed folks would show as white boxes |
| 20:15.33 | Kaso | I love when wine works ok, its still like magic or something in my mind |
| 20:15.45 | Amarande | but why did they put in the new E134 system anyway? |
| 20:15.48 | Amarande | that also seems to crash more often, too |
| 20:15.54 | Amarande | was it needed to stop new bots? |
| 20:16.21 | amro | I haven't seen that one since beta |
| 20:16.28 | amro | as in vanilla wow beta |
| 20:16.31 | Amarande | apparently it happens all the time since 2.4.2 |
| 20:16.42 | Amarande | and Blizzard always insists YOUR HARDWARE IS SCREWED UP BUY NEW HARDWARE IT'S NOT OUR FAULT |
| 20:16.44 | amro | reinstall? |
| 20:16.44 | Amarande | whenever someone posts |
| 20:16.54 | Amarande | and when someone contradicts that and claims it's Blizz' fault they lock the thread |
| 20:17.05 | Amarande | lemme guess, contradicting a blue is a TOS violation? |
| 20:17.25 | Amarande | amro: all you need to do is run the WoW repair tool |
| 20:17.30 | Amarande | but now I'm afraid I may never get to do my BRD quests |
| 20:17.41 | amro | does it find any problems? |
| 20:17.41 | Amarande | because I'm sure my group went on without me during the time it takes to run repair |
| 20:17.44 | Amarande | Never |
| 20:17.54 | Amarande | but if you just re-run WoW -without- running repair, it errors immediately again |
| 20:18.10 | Amarande | it seems to be the same thing that used to give E131 on less common occasions before 2.4.2 |
| 20:18.25 | Amarande | I can't even tell my party NO WAIT because I won't be able to log on |
| 20:18.33 | Amarande | AND IT TAKES ALL DAY JUST TO GET A GROUP FOR BRD |
| 20:18.35 | amro | :( |
| 20:18.48 | Amarande | I can't be blowing all my gold to give 100g to four different people to go to BRD |
| 20:18.54 | Kirochi | Won't you take me to |
| 20:18.56 | Kirochi | THE FUNKY TOWN |
| 20:19.06 | Amarande | Stupid Burning Crusade |
| 20:19.09 | Amarande | Stupid Outland |
| 20:19.19 | Amarande | now everyone rushes to 58 because ALL THEY CARE ABOUT is better gear |
| 20:19.32 | Amarande | even though Hellfire is a million times worse a zone than anything we have in Old World lol |
| 20:19.54 | Amarande | I think WoW should just stop doing data checks period, it would reduce all the crashes |
| 20:20.13 | Adys | ooo |
| 20:20.13 | amro | they do it to prevent model swapping and the like |
| 20:20.16 | amro | I think |
| 20:20.19 | Amarande | of course then Wei would probably destroy the game again |
| 20:20.20 | Adys | baron rivendar is lvl boss now :) |
| 20:20.31 | Kirochi | adys share the love |
| 20:20.34 | Amarande | someone needs to go to China with a poisoned knife and stab Wei in the heart :P |
| 20:20.38 | Kirochi | ss it!!! |
| 20:20.44 | Amarande | RWT should be a death offense |
| 20:21.11 | Amarande | of course, some folks insist that this is why we have a hard time getting new folks into WoW ... they'd rather play AO or Second Life where they can at least pull in some extra money in today's economy |
| 20:21.34 | kd3 | achievements step 2 of 1840585034 |
| 20:22.30 | amro | kd3 that's 1.08e-7% |
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| 20:22.33 | amro | keep up the good work! |
| 20:22.44 | amro | you'll be done in no time ;) |
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| 20:23.28 | Adys | Kirochi |
| 20:23.29 | Adys | http://s4.tinypic.com/2wcp9c4.jpg |
| 20:23.42 | Adys | http://s4.tinypic.com/fyhl3d.jpg |
| 20:24.22 | Kirochi | http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9387zmssuE |
| 20:24.50 | Kirochi | niiiiceee |
| 20:25.05 | Kirochi | dk ça ressemble à quelle classe dans le style de jeu au fait? |
| 20:25.12 | Adys | j'en sais rien |
| 20:25.20 | Adys | jamais joue dk :P |
| 20:25.23 | Kirochi | oO |
| 20:25.32 | Kirochi | mais pourquoi c'est une dk ton perso alors ? |
| 20:25.45 | Adys | parce que j'ai le choix entre un dk 55 et un lvl 1 ^^ |
| 20:25.50 | Adys | tous mes autres chars sont lock |
| 20:25.56 | Kirochi | han |
| 20:26.01 | Kirochi | ben test un peu :D |
| 20:26.01 | Adys | this is wicked |
| 20:26.37 | Adys | ebon hold is divided in 3 parts, sort of wings it reuses a lot of naxx's wmo |
| 20:27.04 | Adys | theres the blood wing, unholy wing and ice wing |
| 20:27.07 | Adys | with trainers and npc |
| 20:28.04 | Kirochi | is it a whole new dungeon? In the EP? |
| 20:28.13 | Adys | looks like it |
| 20:28.22 | Adys | im not sure if its in EP or if its an instance of its own |
| 20:28.29 | Adys | you know on that screenshot |
| 20:28.34 | Adys | you can look down, its EP |
| 20:28.43 | Adys | ill try to jump once i finish this trainquest |
| 20:29.01 | Kirochi | ok |
| 20:29.10 | Kirochi | Kirkburn, we're no strangers to love |
| 20:29.14 | Kirochi | You know the rules and so do I |
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| 20:29.21 | Adys | shut up. |
| 20:29.25 | Kirochi | A full commitment's what I'm thinking of |
| 20:29.34 | Kirochi | You wouldn't get this from any other guy |
| 20:30.48 | Adys | lol I cant submit feedback |
| 20:30.52 | Adys | the feedback ui is bugged :/ |
| 20:34.14 | pcj | "Got My Mind On My Money" "Loot 100 gold." |
| 20:34.18 | pcj | i hope that includes mailbox |
| 20:34.59 | Adys | Im not sure they meant at once |
| 20:35.08 | pcj | lol |
| 20:35.17 | pcj | thats so ridiculously easy then |
| 20:35.30 | Adys | ye |
| 20:36.49 | Amarande | Adys, since you're in beta ... maybe you have enough connection to Blizzard that you can find out the REAL reason they refuse to fix E134 and dismiss it as a hardware problem? |
| 20:37.23 | Adys | My name's jeff kaplan and I refuse to fix this because I like the number 134 |
| 20:37.38 | Kirkburn | Amarande, http://www.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=21028&categoryId=2334&parentCategoryId=2316 |
| 20:37.44 | Kirkburn | Does that page not help? |
| 20:37.47 | Amarande | like whether it's some super secret anti cheat mechanism that unfortunately triggers on the slightest glitch now? |
| 20:38.03 | Adys | I never once had an error 134 |
| 20:38.26 | Adys | Im going to go ahead and say it's down to either hardware or software, on your machine :) |
| 20:38.39 | pcj | yeah i don't get any errors |
| 20:38.40 | Kirkburn | Well, I'd go for that support page and whatever it says |
| 20:38.51 | Amarande | Kirk: It's Failed to read data and isn't on the page |
| 20:39.02 | Amarande | there are tons of threads daily on tech support forum about that |
| 20:39.13 | Kirochi | Amarande who do you think we are, Santa Claus? |
| 20:39.22 | pcj | well i am |
| 20:39.25 | amro | hey! blizzard uses the same netstate constant names as me |
| 20:39.26 | amro | awesome |
| 20:39.43 | Kirkburn | Amarande, very odd indeed |
| 20:39.51 | Kirkburn | Unfortunately, I really don't know either |
| 20:40.01 | amro | Kirochi: santa doesn't do tech supprt |
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| 20:41.08 | Kirochi | Kirkburn> that's for you |
| 20:41.10 | Kirochi | http://lh4.ggpht.com/norswap/SBd83WKPzWI/AAAAAAAAEIM/4DMzSWBaKpA/abroad.jpg |
| 20:41.24 | Kirkburn | ;p; |
| 20:41.30 | Kirkburn | er, lol |
| 20:41.52 | Kirochi | does emmerdale still play? |
| 20:42.06 | amro | ~kill pidgin |
| 20:42.07 | infobot | ACTION shoots a excited quark gun at pidgin |
| 20:42.38 | Adys | ~killall firefox-bin |
| 20:42.40 | Kirochi | http://lh4.ggpht.com/norswap/SBd87WKPzeI/AAAAAAAAEJM/A7fYxn7HNwg/bullshit.jpg |
| 20:42.47 | Kirochi | sky is just full of crap |
| 20:42.50 | Adys | doesnt work amro |
| 20:42.56 | amro | I need to keybind that command |
| 20:42.59 | amro | for ff |
| 20:43.02 | Adys | i know |
| 20:43.05 | Adys | i got it on panel |
| 20:43.06 | Amarande | Kirk: and Blizzard always dismisses it, very rudely most of the time |
| 20:43.10 | Amarande | and locks the thread if anyone argues |
| 20:43.48 | Adys | Amarande: let's take a very broad assumption here |
| 20:43.50 | Adys | but .... |
| 20:43.53 | Adys | you know ..... |
| 20:44.00 | Adys | if they say its your hardware ......... |
| 20:44.03 | pcj | ................................ |
| 20:44.10 | Adys | Im pinging Dotted |
| 20:44.13 | amro | lol |
| 20:44.15 | Adys | I MIGHT be wrong but |
| 20:44.17 | Adys | who knows |
| 20:44.21 | Adys | maybe it IS your hardware? |
| 20:44.36 | pcj | its certainly not MY hardware |
| 20:44.45 | Adys | well shut UP fool ! |
| 20:45.09 | pcj | how arrogant of blizzard to assume it's my hardware, i don't even get error 134 |
| 20:45.23 | amro | it is your hardware pcj |
| 20:45.28 | Adys | oh man |
| 20:45.29 | amro | if you had broken hardware you'd get the error |
| 20:45.30 | Adys | wicked cool |
| 20:45.49 | Kirochi | http://lh5.ggpht.com/norswap/SBd9QmKP0JI/AAAAAAAAEOk/1Zi4wtjNCHU/gta_somalia.jpg?imgmax=640 |
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| 20:46.10 | pcj | that can't be GTA, there are no whores |
| 20:46.11 | Adys | hahaha |
| 20:46.15 | amro | >< |
| 20:46.31 | Adys | shit that quest is awesome |
| 20:46.42 | pcj | which one |
| 20:46.47 | Adys | you control an eye |
| 20:46.49 | pcj | WOW |
| 20:46.50 | Adys | dk starting quest |
| 20:46.52 | pcj | that sounds amazing |
| 20:46.57 | Adys | I KNOW ISNT THAT AMAZING |
| 20:46.57 | pcj | what do you do with the eye |
| 20:47.05 | amro | sounds like a spell |
| 20:47.10 | amro | that a certain class in wowhas |
| 20:47.30 | Adys | it's a flying eye going at 300% speed |
| 20:47.35 | pcj | druids don't have any spell like that... |
| 20:48.01 | amro | I was thinking Eye of Kilrogg. Minus the speed. And the flying. |
| 20:48.30 | Kirochi | amro |
| 20:48.31 | Kirochi | reviens |
| 20:48.32 | Kirochi | http://lh4.ggpht.com/tremechan/SG_-tAxAV1I/AAAAAAAAD2Q/TmN0JBBMWxk/gta4360.jpg?imgmax=640 |
| 20:49.51 | Kirkburn | Sigils? oooh |
| 20:49.59 | pcj | more like ooold |
| 20:50.42 | Kirochi | ~>:3 |
| 20:50.43 | Adys | Shit man |
| 20:50.55 | Adys | the lich king has better software than us |
| 20:51.05 | pcj | i hope he has better hardware |
| 20:51.10 | pcj | else he'd get error 134 |
| 20:51.31 | Adys | he uses an eye which in 5 seconds "gathers information concerning the location, name and content of a human structure" |
| 20:53.02 | Adys | So er yes ebon hold is in the EP |
| 20:53.04 | Adys | and isnt an instance |
| 20:53.40 | Kirochi | http://lh6.ggpht.com/norswap/SByS8mKP1aI/AAAAAAAAEaE/xtVmx19edD8/sparta.clown.jpg |
| 20:53.56 | Amarande | Adys: I test my memory with memtest periodically for hours at a time with no errors |
| 20:54.02 | Amarande | it's NOT the RAM, and like someone else said on the boards |
| 20:54.10 | Amarande | unless everyone's RAM SUDDENLY failed after 2.4.2, it can't be their RAM |
| 20:54.54 | Adys | Hardware doesnt only mean ram |
| 20:54.56 | amro|afk | it might not be 2.4.2 itself but the disk writes associated with patching |
| 20:55.00 | amro|afk | and lol Kirochi |
| 20:55.09 | Kirochi | j'en ai d'autres |
| 20:55.13 | Kirochi | genre Kebab Manager |
| 20:56.20 | Kirochi | http://lh4.ggpht.com/norswap/SFLH0s2rIaI/AAAAAAAAFJA/z5gQAhcTI6Y/congratulations.jpg |
| 20:56.22 | Kirochi | mais lol |
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| 20:56.47 | Amarande | hmm |
| 20:56.59 | Amarande | what level gear would someone need to be able to solo run someone through BRD with quests? |
| 20:57.11 | Amarande | would a regular old Kara raider do or am I going to have to start paying 200g+ to hire someone from a T6 guild? |
| 20:59.07 | pcj | BRD is easy |
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| 20:59.18 | pcj | a level 70 in greens can solo |
| 20:59.45 | Pinkhair3d | yup |
| 20:59.51 | Pinkhair3d | dependong on class |
| 21:00.14 | Adys | btw amro |
| 21:00.19 | Adys | the eye uses the eye of cthun model |
| 21:00.22 | Adys | hows that not cool :) |
| 21:00.50 | amro|afk | rofl Kirochi |
| 21:00.55 | amro|afk | afk for reals now |
| 21:02.48 | Amarande | pcj: about what *price* should I expect to pay though |
| 21:02.55 | Amarande | like am I going to be looking at four-digits gold to persuade someone? |
| 21:03.00 | pcj | yeah, over 9000 |
| 21:05.56 | Kirochi | pcj so funny |
| 21:08.36 | Kirkburn | Update on keys: EU won't be until next week (obviously), and the US is looking that way too |
| 21:08.49 | Adys | "Grand Theft Palomino" |
| 21:08.50 | Adys | (quest) |
| 21:09.01 | Kirkburn | So, Adys will just have to mercilessly taunt us over the weekend |
| 21:09.07 | Adys | :) |
| 21:09.11 | Kirkburn | He seems to be doing quite well so far |
| 21:09.15 | Kirochi | y sont trop drôles chez blibli |
| 21:09.21 | Adys | Ouais |
| 21:09.40 | Adys | j'aime bien comme ils launchent une beta et lockent tous les non-alpha |
| 21:09.54 | Adys | et de leur cote ils lockent les main chars des alpha |
| 21:09.55 | Adys | :P |
| 21:10.17 | pcj | no, we can just bother him with questions |
| 21:10.24 | Kirochi | j'ai gandraor en ligne sur msn là |
| 21:10.29 | Kirochi | tu veux que je l'engueule ? |
| 21:10.41 | Adys | bah il est pas responsable |
| 21:10.42 | Adys | ^^ |
| 21:10.44 | Kirkburn | And tell him to answer in English, for it is the language of the channel :) |
| 21:10.55 | Adys | Whats this english thee speak of |
| 21:11.11 | Kirkburn | "thou speakest of" |
| 21:11.16 | kd3 | huh, looks like non-dks don't see any of the NPCs in the ebon hold area |
| 21:11.29 | Kirochi | Like a virgin |
| 21:11.36 | Adys | thats called "Easymode retcon" kd3 |
| 21:11.36 | kd3 | woot, there we go. archeus |
| 21:11.51 | Fisker- | lies and slander Kirkburn |
| 21:12.09 | Adys | "Olnur the Battlecaller has ordered you to win 5 duels against other death knights. You may choose to battle death knight initiates or players" haha |
| 21:12.11 | kd3 | whee, mograine |
| 21:12.19 | Adys | "5g for 5 duel won plz" |
| 21:12.20 | Kirkburn | or players? :O |
| 21:12.50 | Adys | Man I love these quest names |
| 21:13.01 | Fisker- | anyways sauce Kirkburn ? |
| 21:13.02 | Adys | "If Chaos Drives, Let Suffering Hold The Reins" |
| 21:13.10 | Adys | "Tonight We Dine In Havenshire" |
| 21:13.16 | kd3 | "Sorry, friend. I can only train Death Knights" |
| 21:13.19 | kd3 | think that needs a rewording |
| 21:13.26 | Adys | No kidding kd3 :P |
| 21:13.41 | Adys | kd3: feedback UI bugged for you? |
| 21:13.44 | Adys | I cant submit |
| 21:14.44 | kd3 | yup |
| 21:14.55 | kd3 | submitted just fine |
| 21:15.13 | Adys | weird |
| 21:15.16 | Adys | i get a lua error |
| 21:15.39 | Adys | okay I have to admit this idea of doing duels as a training quest is really cool |
| 21:15.48 | Adys | but people are gonna skip it if they let duel other players |
| 21:16.07 | Amarande | hmm |
| 21:16.12 | kd3 | hrm... npc info gathering time |
| 21:16.17 | Amarande | the good news is I shouldn't need too high end gear on people to help me with BRD |
| 21:16.17 | pcj | adys, maybe its your hardware |
| 21:16.24 | Amarande | the bad news is that it could get goldy |
| 21:17.00 | Amarande | I'm still trying to figure out where this ridiculous LAG is coming from |
| 21:17.19 | amro | Adys, Kirochi: guess what "fipreur" is |
| 21:17.24 | Kirochi | fipreur? |
| 21:17.27 | Kirochi | vibrator? |
| 21:17.31 | Amarande | I'm getting about 800ms on both Turalyon and Quel'dorei |
| 21:17.32 | Kirochi | said with a german accent? |
| 21:17.46 | amro | close. vibreur (cellphone) with algerian accent |
| 21:17.58 | Kirochi | funfun |
| 21:18.04 | amro | there's also "sargeur" |
| 21:18.17 | amro | and "chefloret" |
| 21:18.21 | Kirochi | chefloret? |
| 21:18.25 | amro | chevrolet |
| 21:18.45 | Amarande | hmm |
| 21:18.51 | Amarande | any of you got a list of the server IP addresses handy? |
| 21:18.51 | Kirochi | lol |
| 21:18.58 | Amarande | need to run a traceroute and see where this lag is coming from |
| 21:19.22 | Kirkburn | Tekkub, bookmark widget is coming along well, next tuesday is possible |
| 21:19.26 | amro | Amarande: google it, lots of firewall sites have lists |
| 21:19.55 | Adys | and er pcj |
| 21:19.57 | Adys | i was wrong |
| 21:20.00 | pcj | noooo |
| 21:20.00 | Adys | you dont get a copper |
| 21:20.05 | Adys | that was in the alpha onlky |
| 21:20.07 | Kirkburn | Stop the presses! |
| 21:20.23 | pcj | hmm |
| 21:20.26 | Adys | awwww theres gothik here :D |
| 21:20.26 | Sandwichman2448 | Let us not forget Leviathon's actions on the dark WotLKWiki. |
| 21:20.33 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> Chan rules: http://wowwiki.com/WW:IRC | All UI questions: #wowuidev | CVN channel: #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | <+winkiller> * Error sanitizing #wowwiki: Too much to do. | <@g0urra> 505 ERROR CAREFACE NOT FOUND | <@pcj> can we go back to talking about sex legs | <Adys> i was wrong |
| 21:20.50 | *** topic/#wowwiki by pcj -> Chan rules: http://wowwiki.com/WW:IRC | All UI questions: #wowuidev | CVN channel: #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | <+winkiller> * Error sanitizing #wowwiki: Too much to do. | <@g0urra> 505 ERROR CAREFACE NOT FOUND | <@pcj> can we go back to talking about sex legs | <@Adys> i was wrong |
| 21:20.50 | *** topic/#wowwiki by ChanServ -> Chan rules: http://wowwiki.com/WW:IRC | All UI questions: #wowuidev | CVN channel: #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | <+winkiller> * Error sanitizing #wowwiki: Too much to do. | <@g0urra> 505 ERROR CAREFACE NOT FOUND | <@pcj> can we go back to talking about sex legs | <Adys> i was wrong |
| 21:20.55 | pcj | pwnt |
| 21:21.04 | Kirkburn | k |
| 21:21.09 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> Chan rules: http://wowwiki.com/WW:IRC | All UI questions: #wowuidev | CVN channel: #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | <+winkiller> * Error sanitizing #wowwiki: Too much to do. | <@g0urra> 505 ERROR CAREFACE NOT FOUND | <@pcj> can we go back to talking about sex legs | <@Adys> i was wrong |
| 21:21.17 | Fisker- | Kirkburn source! |
| 21:21.18 | Fisker- | :o |
| 21:21.20 | Fisker- | also |
| 21:21.26 | Adys | I love how rivendare is now a boss, and gothik is now lvl 80 |
| 21:21.33 | Fisker- | i to sex for you to sex for you so sex it hurt pcj |
| 21:21.35 | Kirkburn | Wait, pcj got affected by topic lock? |
| 21:21.40 | Adys | Yes |
| 21:21.45 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 21:21.50 | pcj | heheheh |
| 21:21.52 | Dotted | keep it that way Kirkburn |
| 21:21.56 | Dotted | for your own good |
| 21:22.23 | Kirkburn | Sandwichman2448, doesn't really matter to us, only what they do on wiki. Besides, there's no NDA now :P |
| 21:22.35 | Sandwichman2448 | He was still unpunished. |
| 21:22.37 | Fisker- | :( |
| 21:22.40 | *** join/#wowwiki bleeter_ (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 21:22.40 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v bleeter_] by ChanServ |
| 21:22.44 | pcj | i probably need flag +t |
| 21:22.54 | Amarande | oh, just goddamn effing flaming great |
| 21:22.59 | Kirkburn | Bans are prevention not punishment. |
| 21:23.04 | Amarande | apparently there's a 400ms lag between the local ISP node and the backbone |
| 21:23.12 | Amarande | the AT&T backbone apparently. AT&T, you suck. |
| 21:23.37 | pcj | actually flags +vVoOtsriRfA to match the other admins |
| 21:23.38 | Sandwichman2448 | Hm. |
| 21:23.44 | Amarande | Vvootsrirfa? Isn't he a new raid boss in the expansion? |
| 21:23.47 | Amarande | Or maybe a new server name |
| 21:24.05 | amro | what's that new race called |
| 21:24.06 | *** join/#wowwiki Epistaxis (n=jen@cpc2-clif4-0-0-cust993.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 21:24.11 | amro | Vry something |
| 21:24.15 | Kirochi | they're called the Danes |
| 21:24.16 | Adys | why hello Epistaxis |
| 21:24.17 | kd3 | vrykul |
| 21:24.21 | amro | thanks |
| 21:24.25 | Epistaxis | why hello wowwiki! |
| 21:24.26 | amro | very kul |
| 21:24.40 | Fisker- | *massive amount of h8 channeling* |
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| 21:25.52 | Kirochi | http://www.fodey.com/img1/please_use_the_link_to_save_your_image.gif |
| 21:25.56 | Kirochi | oops |
| 21:27.40 | Kirkburn | pcj, wow |
| 21:27.50 | pcj | isn't that AMAZING |
| 21:27.55 | amro | ~stab pidgin |
| 21:27.56 | infobot | ACTION runs at pidgin with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 21:27.56 | Fisker- | :( |
| 21:28.02 | Fisker- | ~kiss Kirkburn |
| 21:28.02 | infobot | ACTION forces Kirkburn to give subu a big kiss on the lips |
| 21:28.05 | Adys | ~whalenuke pidgin authors |
| 21:28.06 | infobot | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around pidgin authors with his mind powers. |
| 21:28.08 | Kirkburn | The switch is confuuzing |
| 21:28.11 | Kirochi | http://r5.fodey.com/1c2ee73c93bfd4ccdb600fc3818328fc1.1.gif |
| 21:28.23 | Kirkburn | ~whaleparry Adys |
| 21:28.24 | infobot | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Adys's attacks. |
| 21:28.31 | Adys | ~whalestab Kirkburn |
| 21:28.32 | infobot | ACTION stabs Kirkburn with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 21:28.40 | Kirkburn | ~whaleslap Adys |
| 21:28.41 | infobot | ACTION beats Adys upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 21:28.48 | Kirochi | ~roulette Kirkburn |
| 21:28.48 | infobot | ACTION watches Kirkburn pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 21:28.48 | pcj | i think +* is the same thing |
| 21:29.26 | amro | ~whalepunt Kirochi |
| 21:29.27 | infobot | ACTION looks onward as an everest-sized whale called Victor punts Kirochi across the Atlantic |
| 21:29.43 | amro | wow. effective. |
| 21:29.45 | Adys | ~whaleannihilate Kirkburn |
| 21:29.54 | Adys | well shit. |
| 21:29.58 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 21:31.02 | Adys | - ERROR #134 (0x85100086) Fatal Condition |
| 21:31.02 | Adys | Program: C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe |
| 21:31.02 | Adys | Failed to open archive dbc.MPQ |
| 21:31.10 | Adys | didnt dbc.MPQ get removed in 2.0 ? |
| 21:31.14 | pcj | kd3, how about marking those npcs as stubs |
| 21:31.15 | Adys | that kinda needs an update doesnt it |
| 21:31.25 | pcj | sounds like a hardware issue |
| 21:31.34 | Fisker- | indeed pcj |
| 21:31.57 | Fisker- | Owner of the Wrath of the Lich King's Collector's Edition Frost Wyrm Whelp pet |
| 21:31.58 | Fisker- | :o |
| 21:33.02 | Sandwichman2448 | Yup |
| 21:33.44 | *** join/#wowwiki selckin (n=selckin@78-22-100-64.access.telenet.be) |
| 21:33.57 | Amarande | hmm |
| 21:34.05 | Amarande | is excessive latency considered a 'problem' that one can get ISP support with? |
| 21:34.30 | Amarande | Adys: there's also NO reference in that page for the "Failed to read data" E134 |
| 21:34.37 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> Chan rules: http://wowwiki.com/WW:IRC | All UI questions: #wowuidev | CVN channel: #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | Tonight, we dine in HAVENSHIRE | <@pcj> can we go back to talking about sex legs | <@Adys> i was wrong |
| 21:34.37 | Amarande | which apparently is the one nearly everyone with E134 issues is getting |
| 21:34.52 | Adys | that page is far from up to date as my last paste suggested |
| 21:35.53 | Adys | Kirkburn: Its really cool |
| 21:36.09 | Adys | They put lvl 45-ish npcs in a nearby mine, can train on them and get some easy money |
| 21:37.24 | Adys | and seriously they're showing off all their new mechanics in an area of like 400 yards square :P |
| 21:37.58 | amro | do you start off with all abilities? |
| 21:38.08 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 21:38.10 | Adys | 5 abilities + racials etc |
| 21:38.29 | Kirkburn | Wow, that's like 5% of what a warlock has at 55 |
| 21:38.32 | Kirkburn | Racials? |
| 21:38.40 | amro | both factions start in ebon hold? |
| 21:38.43 | kd3 | yes |
| 21:38.50 | kd3 | points at his last edit of Acherus |
| 21:38.55 | Adys | I havent seen horde yet though |
| 21:38.56 | Kirkburn | And it's a contested area? |
| 21:39.00 | Adys | Yes it is |
| 21:39.06 | Adys | but you got a spell on you |
| 21:39.16 | Kirkburn | "I got a spell on youuuu" |
| 21:39.16 | Adys | Watched over and protected by the Lich King |
| 21:39.22 | Adys | so must be that :) |
| 21:39.23 | amro | Sanctuary Kirkburn |
| 21:39.23 | Kirkburn | ooh |
| 21:39.29 | Adys | Its not |
| 21:39.31 | Adys | its contested |
| 21:39.31 | pcj | sanctuary, and you can duel? |
| 21:39.39 | pcj | sweet |
| 21:39.46 | Kirkburn | Gogo kd3 :) |
| 21:39.47 | Adys | yeah fucking stupid duels |
| 21:39.54 | Adys | when I duel npcs I dont kill them but they kill ME |
| 21:40.02 | Adys | SOVIET RUSSIA JOKE TIME, PCJ |
| 21:40.04 | Kirkburn | s/Gogo/Go Go Gadget/ |
| 21:40.21 | Sandwichman2448 | [[Wolvar]] |
| 21:40.21 | Dotted | Sandwichman2448 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Wolvar |
| 21:40.34 | pcj | in soviet russia, joke tells you |
| 21:40.43 | Sandwichman2448 | Can the 'What are they?' part stay? |
| 21:40.44 | Kirkburn | Yeah, methinks we only need what Kaplan said, SWM |
| 21:40.45 | amro | oh ffs |
| 21:40.46 | amro | "Wolvar" |
| 21:40.51 | amro | don't get too original there chris |
| 21:41.01 | Sandwichman2448 | It was interesting. |
| 21:41.05 | Adys | hahaha |
| 21:41.09 | Amarande | ok, one more question before I disconnect ... |
| 21:41.12 | amro | and I thought Kruul was abd |
| 21:41.14 | amro | bad* |
| 21:41.21 | Amarande | if I disconnect my cable modem in order to have it renegotiate the connection to hopefully a less laggy node |
| 21:41.23 | Adys | "Scarlet Peasant says: I picked the wrong week to quit drinkin'!" |
| 21:41.28 | Kirkburn | Amarande, "how do I sotp this thing disconnecting?" |
| 21:41.31 | Amarande | how long do I have to disconnect it for to make it forget its current one? |
| 21:41.31 | Sandwichman2448 | They all misheard. |
| 21:41.41 | pcj | 10 seconds |
| 21:41.42 | Amarande | I can't remember if it's 20 or 30 min |
| 21:41.44 | Kirkburn | Man, my version wasn't that far off |
| 21:41.51 | Amarande | pcj: in order to get a new IP address |
| 21:41.55 | Kirkburn | Sandwichman2448, fun, eh |
| 21:41.56 | pcj | yeah, 10 seconds |
| 21:41.59 | Amarande | if I get the same IP again, I'm going to be on lag again |
| 21:42.02 | Sandwichman2448 | I like it... |
| 21:42.05 | pcj | Doubt it |
| 21:42.12 | Sandwichman2448 | ...And wrote it... |
| 21:42.18 | pcj | oh he's gone |
| 21:42.22 | Sandwichman2448 | Ouch |
| 21:43.17 | Sandwichman2448 | Split off to a silly page? |
| 21:43.52 | Sandwichman2448 | It is cite-tastic. |
| 21:44.00 | Sandwichman2448 | will shut up. |
| 21:46.59 | Adys | oh hahah cool |
| 21:47.14 | Adys | Im in a black&white movie <3 |
| 21:47.46 | pcj | ur mom was in a black & white movie |
| 21:47.48 | pcj | she was the white |
| 21:48.01 | Adys | rly :( |
| 21:48.03 | Kirkburn | Ooh, nicely done |
| 21:48.24 | Adys | Seriously though |
| 21:48.41 | Adys | They are really showing off ALL of their new mechanics in ebon hold |
| 21:49.58 | Adys | Whee, achievement unlocked |
| 21:51.38 | Kirkburn | Which? |
| 21:51.45 | Adys | Fast & Furious |
| 21:52.05 | amro | they need to have an achievement that requires you to level all the way to 80 with the default UI |
| 21:52.09 | Kirkburn | What was that for? |
| 21:52.09 | amro | no one would get it >< |
| 21:52.26 | Adys | journeyman thing |
| 21:52.28 | Adys | riding |
| 21:52.46 | foxlit | It's entirely possible :) |
| 21:53.45 | Kirkburn | Testing the new bookmark widget, looks pretty good |
| 21:53.52 | Adys | thank you mister Idontdetectirony |
| 21:54.49 | Kirkburn | Just a click to add the page you're on to the list |
| 21:54.49 | Adys | Gah I cant report bugs still |
| 21:55.04 | Kirkburn | Ach, frustrating I'm sure |
| 21:55.37 | Kirkburn | It's great that you're trying, rather than not :) Good tester, right there ^ |
| 21:56.16 | Adys | Oh man |
| 21:56.38 | amro | what error are you getting? |
| 21:57.01 | Adys | bad argument #2 to 'format' (number expected, got nil) |
| 21:57.08 | Adys | Blizzard_FeedbackUI.lua:616 |
| 21:58.37 | Adys | Theres this quest telling me to attack 20 mobs 10-15 levels lower than me.. most of them start fight half-health and with a gigantic arrow in their stomach. They whine "P... Please don't!" with their new "cover" animation or something, and you get "The Lich King whispers: Finish him." |
| 21:58.50 | Adys | that is awesome in every sense of the term. |
| 22:00.24 | amro | it's cower. |
| 22:00.33 | Adys | it's a typo |
| 22:01.19 | amro | it's also 30 degrees in here |
| 22:01.26 | Adys | 32 here |
| 22:01.36 | Adys | my thermometer bar is bigger than yours |
| 22:01.40 | pcj | over 9000 here |
| 22:02.21 | amro | it's actually 203 here |
| 22:04.01 | Adys | Maybe this should get some tuning |
| 22:04.15 | Adys | those human females got the "enrage" sound of ogres |
| 22:04.49 | amro | creepy |
| 22:05.04 | amro | on the plus side no ogres in northrend |
| 22:05.13 | amro | don't have to suffer the crappy stiffbacked models |
| 22:05.44 | Adys | Oh man this is gore |
| 22:05.49 | Adys | this is T-rated?>< |
| 22:07.28 | pcj | amro, no ogres in northrend, but definitely ogres in eastern kingdoms |
| 22:08.43 | Kirkburn | Ogres in Space! |
| 22:08.58 | amro | yeah but you don't have to look at those past 70 |
| 22:09.37 | pcj | who said anything about past 70 |
| 22:10.24 | Kirkburn | Who was it that complained about the originality of the wolvar? As far as I recall this is a game about orcs, elves and goblins. Hardly the heights of originality in the first place. |
| 22:10.59 | amro | it was me, and it was about the name |
| 22:11.07 | amro | blizzard didn't invent any of those other races |
| 22:11.28 | Kirkburn | Ah well, it's not about the name, it's what you do with them |
| 22:11.36 | Adys | oh |
| 22:11.41 | Adys | you can see who you got mails from |
| 22:11.46 | Adys | "Unread mail from..." |
| 22:12.01 | amro | you can see that already |
| 22:12.02 | Kirkburn | amro, I think it's good to at least keep some recognisability in the names |
| 22:13.19 | amro | it's not a big deal, let's just hope they're not as annoying as murlocs |
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| 22:14.18 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Kaso] by ChanServ |
| 22:15.21 | Kirkburn | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7511426.stm "The report found that the US ranked 42nd in the world for life expectancy despite spending more on health care per person than any other country." |
| 22:15.24 | Kirkburn | amro, hehe |
| 22:15.34 | Kirkburn | Well, we've got the oracles for that |
| 22:15.49 | Kirkburn | Though they do not sound like murlocs, thank FSM |
| 22:17.36 | winkiller | Kirkburn: they spend money for health care, doesn't say people get somezthing from it... |
| 22:17.49 | winkiller | guess 50% is army healthcare :P |
| 22:18.00 | Kirkburn | The stats at the bottom of the page are scary |
| 22:18.51 | Adys | rofl |
| 22:19.20 | amro | if you live in DC you're more likely to die of gun/stab wounds than natural causes |
| 22:19.28 | Adys | amro |
| 22:19.28 | amro | and at one point, anthrax |
| 22:20.06 | winkiller | Adys, how much was Franc to euro? |
| 22:20.17 | Adys | 6.551857 FF for 1⬠|
| 22:20.22 | winkiller | ah ty |
| 22:20.34 | Adys | amro |
| 22:20.37 | Adys | http://s4.tinypic.com/2w5k12c.jpg |
| 22:20.37 | amro | sup |
| 22:20.43 | Adys | poop jokes in wow |
| 22:20.57 | amro | rofl |
| 22:22.09 | amro | what's that on top of the mail icon? |
| 22:22.23 | pcj | calendar |
| 22:23.38 | Kirkburn | greeen? |
| 22:23.45 | Kirkburn | Adys, are you really that green? |
| 22:23.51 | Adys | texture bugs |
| 22:24.00 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 22:24.06 | Adys | its only with this armor |
| 22:24.37 | Kirkburn | Isn't that the combat log that's been blurred out? |
| 22:24.59 | Adys | I don't know, it's blurred |
| 22:25.05 | amro | shh, top secret! |
| 22:25.07 | Kirkburn | It's too colourful |
| 22:25.22 | pcj | Can't be the combat log |
| 22:25.25 | pcj | Shows loot received |
| 22:25.32 | amro | Adys: il sait trop, on doit le buter. |
| 22:25.45 | pcj | Or rather quest reward received |
| 22:25.50 | Adys | Faudrait pas qu'il chie dans son froc lui aussi |
| 22:26.35 | pcj | oh, you're running an item scanner aren't you adys |
| 22:26.36 | Adys | "Dense Frostweave Bandage" |
| 22:26.55 | Adys | pcj: I told you, I don't know it's been blurred out ! |
| 22:27.14 | pcj | mmhmm |
| 22:27.21 | Adys | alright where's tyrs hand gone |
| 22:27.25 | Adys | every mob is gone |
| 22:27.32 | pcj | i killed them |
| 22:27.40 | pcj | until the chat box is unblurred |
| 22:27.41 | Adys | ur mom killed them |
| 22:28.18 | Adys | Wait |
| 22:28.21 | pcj | i guess she must be drop dead gorgeous |
| 22:28.23 | Adys | where's eastern plaguelands gone. |
| 22:28.31 | Adys | wow pcj |
| 22:28.32 | Adys | wow |
| 22:28.52 | pcj | that's what she said |
| 22:30.21 | Adys | is that what your mom said? |
| 22:32.28 | Adys | sigh |
| 22:32.37 | Adys | theres death knights called BLaumeux and Deathknight |
| 22:32.45 | pcj | kinky |
| 22:35.31 | Adys | hahaha |
| 22:36.57 | Adys | http://s4.tinypic.com/2w6cjg6.jpg |
| 22:37.30 | amro | rofl |
| 22:38.12 | amro | awesome looks like a necromancer |
| 22:39.25 | pcj | adys is that your combat log |
| 22:39.33 | Adys | No it's blur |
| 22:39.35 | Adys | oh |
| 22:39.37 | Adys | yeah it is |
| 22:39.57 | Adys | "Scroll of Enchant Cloak - Mighty Armor |
| 22:39.59 | Adys | yum |
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| 22:43.09 | Adys | Scarlet Ghoul says: BRAAIINSS! |
| 22:50.46 | *** join/#wowwiki amro (n=amro@82.101.184.171) |
| 22:51.31 | Adys | DK relics are actually called sigils |
| 22:51.37 | Adys | [[sigil]] |
| 22:51.38 | Dotted | Adys meant: www.wowwiki.com/sigil |
| 22:51.45 | *** join/#wowwiki niklauz (i=d863b241@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5f7b237839212d6d) |
| 22:51.54 | Adys | which was known for a while |
| 22:52.47 | pcj | yeah old |
| 22:52.52 | amro | direct rendering: Yes |
| 22:53.01 | amro | omg EYS |
| 22:53.01 | amro | YES |
| 22:53.08 | Adys | grats amro? |
| 22:53.17 | Adys | new gc or new drivers? |
| 22:53.47 | *** join/#wowwiki Amarande (i=amarande@24-151-27-102.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com) |
| 22:53.48 | niklauz | does wowwiki have anything the new WotLK update? |
| 22:54.00 | Adys | Noooooooo. |
| 22:54.11 | Amarande | niklauz: we don't talk about WotLK here |
| 22:54.18 | Amarande | WotLK is ruining lower level fun even as we speak |
| 22:54.19 | Adys | Theres a nda and stuff |
| 22:54.32 | *** join/#wowwiki amro (n=amro@82.101.184.171) |
| 22:54.51 | Amarande | at least, I'm getting the feeling that that's what I should blame for my scrub instance groups I keep getting |
| 22:54.56 | Amarande | when I can get one at all |
| 22:55.18 | amro | ... |
| 22:55.20 | amro | X crashed RIGHT AFTER I SAID THAT |
| 22:55.23 | Amarande | everyone who's good seems to be in a mad hurry to 70 in hopes of being able to get their characters to T6 before the expansion, I think :| |
| 22:55.40 | Adys | lol amro |
| 22:55.40 | Adys | [01:53:17] <@Adys> new gc or new drivers? |
| 22:55.45 | Amarande | because apparently, if you don't focus on progression, you're a scrub |
| 22:56.03 | niklauz | oh... uh sorry |
| 22:56.12 | Adys | Amarande can you please, please stop whining about every single damn thing you can think of |
| 22:56.18 | Adys | wow has always been like that |
| 22:56.23 | amro | Adys: I got this 'brilliant' tool that supposedly picks the best drivers |
| 22:56.24 | niklauz | is it banned from wowwiki, hey you gotta take a stand, i understand |
| 22:56.54 | Adys | wow has always attracted people who focus on progression, bad hardware has always attracted #134 errors |
| 22:56.54 | Adys | etc |
| 22:57.22 | Adys | niklauz: was sarcasm etc |
| 22:57.39 | niklauz | epic fails @ sarcasm |
| 22:58.25 | Adys | "Prince Valanar at Death's Breach has commanded you to slaughter 200 Scarlet Defenders" |
| 22:58.26 | Adys | uh ok |
| 22:58.49 | Adys | that guy got pissed of not having a job at Nesingwary Bros. |
| 22:59.13 | Amarande | Adys: And we thought Gelkis Alliance was a tedious quest. :) |
| 22:59.42 | Amarande | Or ... what's that quest where you had to kill fifteen of four different kinds of elves in the Hinterlands? LOL |
| 22:59.56 | Amarande | I think that one might be the highest single kill count quest in the game right now |
| 22:59.59 | Corgan | tackles Adys |
| 23:00.03 | Corgan | get me a key jerk |
| 23:00.12 | amro | that one was fun amarande |
| 23:00.16 | Adys | 09f9 1102 9d74 e35b d841 56c5 6356 88c0 |
| 23:00.18 | Adys | told you |
| 23:00.21 | amro | especially when it triggered localdefense |
| 23:00.36 | Corgan | pouts |
| 23:00.40 | Dotted | Adys is that? |
| 23:00.46 | Amarande | amro: I wouldn't know, I've never played Alliance further than level 9 |
| 23:00.47 | Adys | ? |
| 23:00.58 | Kirkburn|sleep | Super Nesingwary Bros., the game that has only one level, and it involves repeating one action three thousand times. |
| 23:01.12 | Amarande | Kirkburn, I think they have that game already |
| 23:01.15 | Amarande | it's called 'Deer Hunter' |
| 23:02.12 | Kirkburn|sleep | I'm off to bed, have a good night, all |
| 23:02.21 | Kirkburn|sleep | Adys, remember to sleep |
| 23:02.31 | Adys | next week |
| 23:02.35 | Adys | this is just too hilarious |
| 23:02.52 | Kirkburn|sleep | It sounds it! |
| 23:02.57 | Corgan | curses Adys |
| 23:03.08 | Corgan | throws Adys into the deepest pits of hell |
| 23:03.15 | Adys | omg YES |
| 23:03.19 | Amarande | And in the expansion after WOTLK, the Cenarion Whatever They Are Called This Time sends you to bring back Nesingwary's head for destroying the environment :) |
| 23:03.25 | amro | Adys |
| 23:03.27 | Kirkburn|sleep | You threw him into New Jersey? |
| 23:03.30 | amro | lemme do that quest for you |
| 23:03.39 | amro | and picture ATI devs instead of scarlet defenders |
| 23:03.47 | Adys | hold on amro |
| 23:03.51 | Adys | lemme get you a screenshot |
| 23:04.31 | Adys | spoiler inside, dont click if you dont want to know |
| 23:04.44 | Adys | http://s4.tinypic.com/2hrejc5.jpg |
| 23:05.11 | amro | holy shit that's awesome |
| 23:06.43 | Adys | http://s4.tinypic.com/16lwphi.jpg amro |
| 23:07.35 | amro | how come you're the only one therE? |
| 23:07.47 | Adys | theres 33 people on the server |
| 23:08.26 | amro | wow. I bet there are private servers with higher pops |
| 23:08.38 | Adys | I was only one online on alpha at some point :P |
| 23:09.17 | niklauz | oh are these alpha screenshots? |
| 23:09.24 | Adys | No |
| 23:09.25 | Adys | thats beta |
| 23:09.37 | Corgan | lol adys |
| 23:09.39 | niklauz | it's for WothLK.. err the unmentinoable |
| 23:09.52 | Pinkhair3d | http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/1310/gamecardbustedver0qd3.jpg |
| 23:11.59 | niklauz | the 69 is a nice touch |
| 23:14.03 | Adys | holy fucking shit that quest is awesome |
| 23:15.03 | amro | attempts to fix ATI drivers: |
| 23:15.03 | amro | http://pastey.net/91568 |
| 23:15.20 | Adys | lol |
| 23:16.12 | amro | trying again |
| 23:25.22 | Adys | hahahah |
| 23:25.57 | SandwichlessAFK | The Scourge has steel wood-chipperish meat wagons, but we get a skull catapult? |
| 23:26.03 | Adys | Noth the Plaguebringer (quest): "Look at this pumpkin patch! Notice anything missing? Of course you don't, because you're a moron! Your brain ws probably the first thing to die. <Noth sighs.>" |
| 23:26.33 | SandwichlessAFK | is dissapointed with the siege. |
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| 23:31.29 | Adys | http://s4.tinypic.com/2hiayrb.jpg |
| 23:31.30 | Pinkhair3d | updatey: http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4678/gamecardbustedver1yp5.jpg |
| 23:31.31 | Adys | as i said |
| 23:31.39 | amro | direct rendering: No |
| 23:31.41 | Adys | they're putting all their new mechanics |
| 23:31.45 | Adys | in the same place |
| 23:32.15 | SandwichlessAFK | New data does suggest that the old weapons will be mobile mobs, but not useable. |
| 23:33.33 | SandwichlessAFK | knows you prolly know this. |
| 23:35.12 | SandwichlessAFK | What? Can not I like things? |
| 23:36.43 | Pinkhair3d | Liking things is prohibited. |
| 23:36.48 | Amarande | *shrug* |
| 23:37.00 | Amarande | I'm still trying to figure out this one ad I just saw on the web |
| 23:37.03 | Amarande | *Triple* core processor. |
| 23:37.10 | Amarande | Double and quad make sense. Triple doesn't. :) |
| 23:38.16 | SandwichlessAFK | I used to say I had one. |
| 23:39.33 | SandwichlessAFK | It can happen. |
| 23:40.12 | niklauz | Amarande: it's only really amd that is doing that, most of the triple cores are quads with a core that didn't meet qa and was deactivated |
| 23:40.30 | niklauz | amd's tech scales between cores really well so it's still a sounds technology |
| 23:40.33 | SandwichlessAFK | I used duct tape. |
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| 23:43.16 | amro | ERROR #132 (0x85100084) Fatal Exception |
| 23:44.21 | SandwichlessAFK | sighs. |
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| 23:44.43 | Adys | must be hardware Amarande |
| 23:44.44 | Adys | amro* |
| 23:45.51 | amro | it's actually the driver |
| 23:45.56 | amro | I decided to rollback |
| 23:46.01 | amro | except I rolled back too far |
| 23:47.04 | Pinkhair3d | and fell off a cliff? |
| 23:47.26 | Amarande | lol |
| 23:48.40 | amro | worse, I got unstable drivers. :/ |
| 23:48.47 | amro | the latest are just as unstable so meh |
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| 23:51.57 | SandwichlessAFK | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Citation_is_useless_now.3F |
| 23:55.27 | Amarande | ok, looking at the beta notes |
| 23:55.44 | Amarande | am I correct in surmising that now there will be absolutely no difference between healing gear and generic spellpower gear? |
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| 23:57.50 | kd3 | there'll probably be some differences |
| 23:58.07 | kd3 | like heal gear having +mp5 on it and mage gear having hit and crit |
| 23:58.20 | Amarande | yeah, probably more subtle ones ... it does suggest to me that tankadins may not have to always lug along a healing set though |
| 23:58.25 | Pinkhair3d | I'm sure there willstill be some things that give just healing, just rare |
| 23:58.25 | Amarande | as the owner of a tankadin, I like that. :) |
| 23:58.28 | kd3 | but the gear will be usable for all casters, if not most efficiently |
| 23:58.31 | Sandwichman2448 | Is the Bomber the Biplane? |
| 23:58.39 | kd3 | ? |
| 23:59.04 | Pinkhair3d | also, heal gear will have a lower number than dps gear since the scaling for healing is higher |
| 23:59.12 | Amarande | also, with the unique abilities for pet classes that didn't previously have one |
| 23:59.27 | Amarande | will those abilities be distributed to the lower level pets of those types, or will they remain unavailable till post-70? |
| 23:59.37 | Pinkhair3d | yeah, because they needed more unique stuff |
| 23:59.46 | Pinkhair3d | while mages get more and more generic |
| 23:59.54 | kd3 | ya, pretty sure that's gonna be game-wide |
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