| 00:01.34 | foxlit | "Low spell hit: 0 HR needed to cap" |
| 00:01.38 | foxlit | OHNOES! |
| 00:04.14 | *** part/#wowwiki Sandwichman2448 (n=cyrillpi@142.231.101.97.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 00:06.34 | Kirkburn | Ose, you know http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:MurlocDance.png only works on the very very latest browsers? |
| 00:06.53 | Adys | aaaan dthat is fine |
| 00:06.55 | kd3 | ooh, an apng |
| 00:07.33 | Groucho | Grrr |
| 00:10.15 | Laraul | Why do ppl upload images using the PNG format? |
| 00:10.30 | kd3 | pngs are better than jpgs? |
| 00:10.35 | Kirkburn | ^ |
| 00:10.38 | Laraul | No they are not |
| 00:10.42 | Hexarobi | png's are better than gifs, not jpegs |
| 00:10.50 | Kirkburn | They are for generated graphics |
| 00:10.52 | Kirkburn | Not for photos |
| 00:11.09 | Charitwo | Adys: fix your categories on your userpage http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys?action=edit |
| 00:11.11 | Adys | photos are the only reason jpg still exist |
| 00:11.17 | Laraul | You don't use the GIF format for photographs. You use JPEG |
| 00:11.18 | Adys | cba |
| 00:11.38 | Adys | and you're missing the point Laraul |
| 00:11.42 | Kirkburn | We don't carry photographs |
| 00:11.53 | Hexarobi | well thats what you get when something is designed by the joint picture experts group |
| 00:11.58 | Laraul | That image is 45KB |
| 00:12.00 | Laraul | That is HUGE |
| 00:12.04 | Adys | so? |
| 00:12.05 | Kirkburn | It's animated |
| 00:12.06 | Adys | its an apng |
| 00:12.23 | Adys | and the image isnt optimized at all |
| 00:12.38 | Kirkburn | Equivalent gif is 22 KB |
| 00:13.02 | Kirkburn | Granted, there isn't actually a reason for that to be aPNG over GIF |
| 00:13.02 | Laraul | Umm... I don't see the animation |
| 00:13.11 | Kirkburn | Try on Firefox 3 |
| 00:13.17 | Adys | and 4294967040 colors less? :) |
| 00:13.30 | Sky2042 | The animation is yum. |
| 00:13.47 | Laraul | That |
| 00:13.48 | Kirkburn | In the case of that pic, there not enough colour or alpha transparency for it to help |
| 00:13.56 | Laraul | That's not out yet... and I hate firefox |
| 00:14.03 | Sky2042 | pokes Charitwo. http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Whatlinkshere/Category:Article_Management_Tags |
| 00:14.08 | Kirkburn | It's been out for about a month |
| 00:14.10 | Sky2042 | Laraul: er, yes it is? |
| 00:14.16 | Sky2042 | Fx 3.0 is out. |
| 00:14.29 | Adys | webkit supports apng fine |
| 00:14.31 | Sky2042 | More like 2-3 weeks. |
| 00:14.44 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, ah yeah, I'm still using RC2 >_< |
| 00:14.55 | Kirkburn | (it's identical to final, so ...) |
| 00:15.34 | Kirkburn | That's not the only category with some links to fix - http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoW_Icon_Templates and http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoW_Table_Helper_Templates |
| 00:15.58 | Laraul | Kirk... it's easier for me to convert that image to an animated gif and upload it then download another version of FireFox |
| 00:16.06 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:MurlocDance.gif |
| 00:16.31 | Laraul | Now that's animated and 20KB less in size... |
| 00:16.44 | Ose | and Adys' mortal enemy |
| 00:16.44 | Kirkburn | I already said that stuff |
| 00:17.01 | Adys | Laraul: that isnt the point at all |
| 00:17.05 | Adys | here's a tip |
| 00:17.08 | Adys | ANIMATED |
| 00:17.09 | Adys | IMAGES |
| 00:17.11 | Adys | SUCK ASS |
| 00:17.24 | Ose | you do realise the only reason I made the apng was because they told me that the gif was bad? |
| 00:17.29 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 00:17.43 | Sky2042 | there is that too/ |
| 00:17.50 | Sky2042 | don't animate things if you don't need to. |
| 00:17.50 | Kirkburn | No need to get confrontational over an image format :P |
| 00:18.01 | Adys | oh you dont know what you just said kirk. |
| 00:18.09 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 00:18.17 | Kirkburn | I think murlocs deserve animation :P |
| 00:18.27 | Hexarobi | i agree |
| 00:18.37 | Hexarobi | dont judge his art just cuz you dont get it, MAN! |
| 00:19.20 | Kirkburn | Ose, the gif is fine |
| 00:20.50 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Kirkburn!n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys] by Adys (NO) |
| 00:20.50 | *** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@wikia/Kirkburn) |
| 00:20.51 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn] by ChanServ |
| 00:23.14 | Laraul | Kirkburn, what do you use for optimizing image file size? |
| 00:23.42 | Kirkburn | I usually use The GIMP for image editing, which is fairly lean already |
| 00:25.22 | Laraul | I am talking about optimizing file size... |
| 00:25.29 | *** join/#wowwiki crucially (n=sky@wikia/crucially) |
| 00:25.56 | Kirkburn | Then ... I don;t? |
| 00:26.31 | Laraul | Have you heard of the "Web Safe" color pallete? I am just curious? |
| 00:26.45 | Sky2042 | has. |
| 00:26.53 | Kirkburn | I have, yes - it's so antiquated though now |
| 00:27.04 | Kaso | web safe pallete? what is this 1995? |
| 00:27.10 | Sky2042 | ^ |
| 00:27.12 | kd3 | ^ |
| 00:27.20 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 00:28.56 | Kaso | opens "Designing Web Graphics" 1999. |
| 00:29.05 | Kaso | Ah yes here it is, Web safe colors! |
| 00:33.08 | Laraul | Do you know how many seperate colors that image uses? |
| 00:33.22 | Laraul | You can probably get it under 32 |
| 00:33.23 | Adys | hahaha |
| 00:33.28 | Hexarobi | ya that could be dithered down to 1 or 2 colors |
| 00:33.32 | Adys | Laraul |
| 00:33.35 | Adys | please |
| 00:33.36 | Sky2042 | black imo. |
| 00:33.42 | Adys | I dont wanna be offensive but |
| 00:33.46 | Sky2042 | and white. |
| 00:33.49 | Adys | update yourself. |
| 00:34.02 | Hexarobi | just black would prolly be enough to get the general feel of the piece across |
| 00:34.05 | Laraul | I know people who still are forced to use dial-up |
| 00:34.19 | Adys | So? |
| 00:34.29 | Kaso | some people still use IE5, we dont have to support them too? |
| 00:34.30 | Adys | I know people who still write with a pen on pieces of paper |
| 00:34.35 | Adys | as sick as that might sound |
| 00:34.37 | Adys | they exist too ! |
| 00:34.41 | Kaso | You design towards the majority not the minority |
| 00:34.58 | Laraul | No, you design for everyone... |
| 00:35.03 | Adys | No Laraul |
| 00:35.14 | Kaso | Sure add some backwards compatability to a degree, but worrying about the file size of a 20k image over a 15k is not worth it |
| 00:35.25 | Kaso | esp if it degrades the majorities experience |
| 00:35.28 | Adys | Technology and standards go towards making minorities get benefit of what the majority gets too |
| 00:35.31 | Kirkburn | I think 44 to 21, Kaso :P |
| 00:35.59 | Hexarobi | damn look at that murloc dance |
| 00:36.14 | Adys | that image specifically is totally irrelevant |
| 00:36.23 | Adys | and I dont like stupid arguments |
| 00:36.33 | Adys | gif supports 256 colors and animations |
| 00:36.39 | Adys | both of which are totally deprecated |
| 00:37.03 | Adys | png supports optimization towards low amounts of colors (which is as far as gif optimization can get useful today) |
| 00:37.21 | Adys | and other stuff like alpha, etc |
| 00:37.26 | Laraul | Look at google |
| 00:37.37 | Adys | Dude I look at google every single day |
| 00:37.42 | Adys | and I can tell you one thing |
| 00:37.53 | Adys | you dont look at those guys' homepage as a comparison for that argument |
| 00:38.02 | Adys | they get billions of hit a day |
| 00:38.02 | Kirkburn | Google is specifically designed for speed though, which is not really the highest aim of wiki |
| 00:38.07 | Adys | wowwiki happen to get less than that |
| 00:38.07 | Laraul | Wowwiki is not a homepage |
| 00:38.24 | Adys | also here is a tip |
| 00:38.28 | Adys | YOU look at google |
| 00:38.30 | Adys | www.gmail.com |
| 00:38.34 | Adys | reader.google.com |
| 00:38.38 | Adys | picasaweb.google.com |
| 00:38.47 | Adys | and you come back telling me those are designed for dial up |
| 00:39.10 | Laraul | If you can find one PNG google uses on any of their sites let me know |
| 00:39.27 | Sky2042 | Oh shut up both of you. |
| 00:39.27 | Adys | www.blogger.com |
| 00:39.29 | Adys | www.youtube.com |
| 00:39.35 | Sky2042 | Take it to PMs if it really means that much. |
| 00:39.35 | Adys | have fun? |
| 00:39.49 | Adys | Sky2042 that is absolutely none of your business |
| 00:39.56 | Sky2042 | To have a peaceful channel? |
| 00:40.02 | Sky2042 | not my business? |
| 00:40.07 | Laraul | I agree |
| 00:40.15 | Laraul | I don't wanna argue about this |
| 00:40.19 | Laraul | Use what you want |
| 00:40.30 | Hexarobi | http://www.google.com/images/nav_logo3.png |
| 00:40.33 | Adys | erm sky need i remind you Im +o here too? |
| 00:40.49 | Sky2042 | erm Adys, did I even mention I was +o? |
| 00:40.56 | Kirkburn | It is irrelevant |
| 00:41.40 | Kirkburn | Now can we change subject please? |
| 00:41.50 | Hexarobi | after my wicked-sick burn!?! |
| 00:42.06 | Kirkburn | Preferably :P |
| 00:42.18 | Kirkburn | Where is pcj, anyway? |
| 00:42.28 | Adys | I banned him yesterday |
| 00:42.40 | Adys | watches Kirkburn check the banlist |
| 00:42.58 | Sky2042 | ~seen pcj |
| 00:43.00 | infobot | pcj <n=pc@pdpc/supporter/active/pcj> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 10h 50m 48s ago, saying: '!jobqueue'. |
| 00:43.02 | Kirkburn | Scary thing is, I could actually believe you :P |
| 00:43.13 | Sky2042 | Funny Adys... |
| 00:43.18 | Kirkburn | unfortunately I am not that oblivious to the goings on in the channel |
| 00:43.26 | Adys | okay sky |
| 00:43.33 | Kirkburn | !jobqueue |
| 00:43.36 | Dotted | The WoWWiki job queue length is currently 147841 |
| 00:43.41 | Adys | since you want a peaceful channel, here is something you're ought to ear |
| 00:43.44 | Adys | s/ear/hear/ |
| 00:43.58 | Sky2042 | watches the irony unfold. |
| 00:44.18 | Kirkburn | I'd quite like a peaceful channel too, y'know :P |
| 00:44.44 | Kirkburn | Btw, anyone know if it's a bad idea to not screw in a hard drive? |
| 00:44.57 | Kirkburn | I have a new one to put in, but I'm not sure I have any screws |
| 00:45.02 | Sky2042 | lol kirk |
| 00:45.11 | kd3 | vibrations... bad |
| 00:45.22 | Adys | Sky2042: you're the most immature, horribly pretencious person ive ever seen given any power to, dont tell me Im myself an asshole because I know that, but you shouldnt have been given admin and kirk will confirm you that ive been against it the first second he mentioned it |
| 00:45.42 | Sky2042 | You've said this before. |
| 00:45.44 | Adys | you get power, and then you act all pretencious with it, just because. |
| 00:45.54 | Kirkburn | Enough, please |
| 00:46.12 | Laraul | Does anyone here know Ruby? |
| 00:46.21 | Sky2042 | o_o |
| 00:46.22 | Adys | Im done, but I wanted to remind you that Sky2042 (and you too kirk btw) |
| 00:46.25 | Kirkburn | The ATI graphics card model? ;P |
| 00:46.34 | Sky2042 | I'm guessing the programming language. |
| 00:46.43 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 00:46.45 | Laraul | No the language |
| 00:46.46 | Kirkburn | </sarcasm> |
| 00:47.20 | Kirkburn | I love the new flare gun in TF2 :) |
| 00:47.25 | Kirkburn | (I don't know Ruby) |
| 00:47.44 | Laraul | Kirk: You play on the PC I assume? |
| 00:47.48 | Kirkburn | (I am reminded of the nude patch for the nVidia faerie though) |
| 00:47.52 | Kirkburn | Aye |
| 00:48.21 | Laraul | Hmm... do you have a multi speaker setup? |
| 00:48.40 | Charitwo | hey kirkburn is that new add images feature... is the pixel value changeable/removable? |
| 00:48.48 | Kaso | Ruby, Ruby, Ruby, Ruby! La la la la |
| 00:48.57 | Kirkburn | Charitwo, how do you mean? |
| 00:49.03 | Kirkburn | Laraul, just two |
| 00:49.17 | Kirkburn | Used to have more, but it got more of a pain than anything useful |
| 00:49.17 | Charitwo | like.. i chose an image and it did [[Image:Blah.jpg|thumb|249px]] |
| 00:49.18 | Dotted | Charitwo meant: www.wowwiki.com/Image:Blah.jpg|thumb|249px |
| 00:49.35 | Charitwo | that's a rather peculiar number |
| 00:49.43 | Kirkburn | So apparently it's live :P |
| 00:50.08 | Kirkburn | Yes, it is supposed to be changable |
| 00:50.13 | Charitwo | yea, i wanna know if it can be changed/removed... because we use the default |thumb pixelation on FFXI |
| 00:50.18 | Kirkburn | I notice there's a bug with the writing colour on wowwiki |
| 00:50.42 | Kirkburn | It should be an option to untick, Charitwo |
| 00:50.57 | Charitwo | Kirkburn: for all users |
| 00:51.21 | Charitwo | ... |
| 00:51.23 | ralfWORK | Dotted: i c wut u did thar |
| 00:51.30 | Laraul | Wikia is full of bugs |
| 00:51.38 | Charitwo | I could have sworn I did Category:Warcraft RPG yesterday...now it's full again |
| 00:51.41 | kd3 | is water wet too? |
| 00:51.48 | Charitwo | i'm going crazy |
| 00:52.13 | Dotted | slaps ralfWORK around with Windows Me |
| 00:53.20 | Kirkburn | Charitwo, hmm, seems the RPG template hasn't updated the pages yet |
| 00:53.40 | Adys | mediawiki needs to support dynamic svgs |
| 00:53.43 | Kirkburn | Charitwo, "for all users"? |
| 00:53.52 | Laraul | MediaWiki needs an overhaul |
| 00:54.04 | Charitwo | Kirkburn: yes, a wiki-wide change |
| 00:54.04 | Adys | like gif |
| 00:54.06 | Adys | lalala. |
| 00:54.34 | Kirkburn | Charitwo, are you cryptically saying it's live everywhere? |
| 00:54.54 | Laraul | Yes |
| 00:55.34 | Charitwo | Kirkburn: it is live everywhere i have been today, yes |
| 00:56.17 | Kirkburn | Okay |
| 00:56.29 | Kirkburn | I'll pass it on - width should not be ticked by default |
| 00:59.10 | Laraul | If Wikia we're commercial I would have more faith |
| 00:59.26 | Kirkburn | I fear you are getting Wikia and Wikimedia mixed up |
| 00:59.41 | Sky2042 | Wikia is commercial. |
| 00:59.42 | Sky2042 | xD |
| 00:59.54 | Sky2042 | Wikimedia is the non-profit organization. |
| 01:00.16 | Kirkburn | We don't develop MediaWiki (though we do make changes, and some filter back to the main branch) |
| 01:00.24 | Laraul | Wikipedia is totally separate of Wikia |
| 01:00.31 | Kirkburn | Indeed |
| 01:00.47 | Sky2042 | Other than Jimbo, who serves on both's boards. |
| 01:00.51 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 01:01.10 | Charitwo | some of wikia's techs and janitors have commit access on the main trunk though |
| 01:01.42 | Sky2042 | watches softball. |
| 01:05.55 | Sky2042 | !jobqueue |
| 01:05.58 | Dotted | The WoWWiki job queue length is currently 144100 |
| 01:06.02 | Sky2042 | woohoo |
| 01:08.39 | Kirkburn | daren't wonder how many external links we're breaking through this :P |
| 01:09.08 | Adys | what are you guys doing anyway? |
| 01:09.17 | Kirkburn | Sorting out all the category names |
| 01:09.24 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: I've taken to leaving the new category name in the deletion summary. |
| 01:09.34 | Kirkburn | No more Title Casing Everything For No Reason |
| 01:09.45 | Sky2042 | Ie, delete [[Cat:XY]], deletion log reads "[[:Cat:Xy]]" |
| 01:09.46 | Dotted | Sky2042 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Cat:XY, www.wowwiki.com/:Cat:Xy |
| 01:10.07 | Kirkburn | Stop being sensible :P |
| 01:10.15 | Sky2042 | Lol. |
| 01:10.20 | Kirkburn | kk, I'll do that too in future :) |
| 01:10.21 | Sky2042 | Who, me? |
| 01:10.47 | Adys | WHy Not KirkbuRn ITS FUn to dO it Like That |
| 01:11.17 | Sky2042 | BecAUSe iT'S KInDa HARda to Read. |
| 01:11.18 | Kirkburn | That's not title case, that's camelcase. With a deranged camel. |
| 01:11.31 | Adys | camel-high-on-drugs-case |
| 01:11.41 | Kirkburn | Nutcase. |
| 01:11.48 | Adys | Oooooh ho ho. |
| 01:11.53 | Sky2042 | Touche. |
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| 01:16.19 | Sky2042 | !jobqueue |
| 01:16.26 | Dotted | The WoWWiki job queue length is currently 143556 |
| 01:16.44 | Sky2042 | It went down |
| 01:16.46 | Sky2042 | o_o |
| 01:17.18 | Charitwo | it does do that you know |
| 01:17.28 | Sky2042 | Charitwo: NOWAI |
| 01:18.08 | Kirkburn | Redirects and their autogenerated edit comments ftw |
| 01:18.15 | Sky2042 | yes |
| 01:18.28 | Sky2042 | means I'm not forced to add an edit summary |
| 01:18.31 | Sky2042 | ;D |
| 01:18.47 | Kirkburn | Yeah, but it can also be completely confusing if you're just changing a category |
| 01:20.37 | Charitwo | !jobqueue |
| 01:20.41 | Dotted | The WoWWiki job queue length is currently 148282 |
| 01:20.48 | Charitwo | there, it went back up |
| 01:20.50 | Laraul | I don't like how admins can hide edits in the edit history |
| 01:20.59 | Sky2042 | congratulates Charitwo. |
| 01:21.08 | Sky2042 | Laraul: You must really hate oversight, eh? |
| 01:21.22 | Laraul | No I want transparency |
| 01:21.42 | Sky2042 | thinks about continuing that line of thought. |
| 01:21.47 | Kirkburn | Ah, but generally it's used for legal issues |
| 01:21.49 | Charitwo | I think he's referring to when a page is deleted, then all but 1 or 2 revisions were restored |
| 01:22.04 | Sky2042 | Charitwo: just about no admin does that. |
| 01:22.10 | Charitwo | Most wikis dont have oversights, thats limited to staff |
| 01:22.11 | Sky2042 | Sensible* |
| 01:22.19 | Kirkburn | Like this one :P |
| 01:22.35 | Charitwo | wowwiki doesnt have oversights, but it does have a staff for an admin |
| 01:22.50 | Sky2042 | ^ |
| 01:23.07 | Charitwo | well.. pseudo staff still? or are they paying you yet? ;) |
| 01:23.08 | Laraul | There is no oversight |
| 01:23.10 | Sky2042 | Tbh, we''re breaking copyright so badly that I'm not sure oversighting would help us. |
| 01:23.12 | Sky2042 | ;P |
| 01:23.32 | Kirkburn | Charitwo, still pseudo |
| 01:23.38 | Sky2042 | xD |
| 01:23.44 | Charitwo | lol wouldn't that rock to be paid to edit wikia |
| 01:23.57 | Laraul | It wouldn't rock |
| 01:24.02 | Kirkburn | I didn't say I wasn't paid ... |
| 01:24.04 | Laraul | You would be held accountable |
| 01:24.12 | Charitwo | oh you are paid? |
| 01:24.28 | Sky2042 | Laraul: He already is. The community holds him accountable. |
| 01:24.35 | *** join/#wowwiki Spyder (n=underdar@201.220.215.11) |
| 01:24.35 | Sky2042 | Safe to say, we've deemed him just fine. |
| 01:24.39 | Spyder | hellow |
| 01:24.42 | Sky2042 | ;) |
| 01:24.43 | Kirkburn | I've been working for Wikia for quite some time |
| 01:24.47 | Sky2042 | Halloa Spyder! |
| 01:24.50 | Laraul | No they don't |
| 01:25.01 | Kirkburn | :-( |
| 01:25.01 | Spyder | [Sky2042] |
| 01:25.05 | Sky2042 | Sure they do. He wouldn't have been hired if not for his good conduct. |
| 01:25.22 | Laraul | People develop a GOD complex |
| 01:25.39 | Sky2042 | begins laughing maniacally at that one, and nudges Adys. |
| 01:25.57 | Charitwo | Imo I think kirkburn uses his rights responsibly, at least from what I've seen |
| 01:26.09 | Kirkburn | I hide the other stuff, obviously |
| 01:26.13 | *** join/#wowwiki crucially (n=sky@wikia/crucially) |
| 01:26.18 | Sky2042 | Weee, only 200 more pages of transclusions... |
| 01:26.25 | Sky2042 | substitutions* |
| 01:27.13 | Sky2042 | wonder if i'll get through all of them |
| 01:27.59 | Spyder | ciao? |
| 01:28.10 | Kirkburn | Charitwo, thanks :) |
| 01:28.21 | Kirkburn | And if I ever start developing a God complex, kick me. |
| 01:28.33 | Kirkburn | Hard. |
| 01:28.53 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Kirkburn!n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys] by Adys (Adys) |
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| 01:29.06 | Ragestorm | I |
| 01:29.06 | Adys | its preventive |
| 01:29.17 | Kirkburn | Kicked the same second I send a message, not bad |
| 01:29.25 | Adys | Im just that good |
| 01:29.39 | Laraul | CHaritwo, have you ever added a contribution? |
| 01:29.49 | Kirkburn | Spyder, sei Italiano? |
| 01:29.52 | Adys | nope but hes removed quite a few |
| 01:30.06 | Charitwo | Laraul: between myself and charibot, i have like 13,000 edits on WoWWiki |
| 01:30.18 | Adys | thats a total lie |
| 01:30.24 | Adys | he pays me to edit stuff for him |
| 01:30.32 | Laraul | An edit is not a contribution |
| 01:30.43 | *** join/#wowwiki Spyder (n=underdar@201.220.215.11) |
| 01:30.52 | Adys | his password is h0tk1rk_burn+sex1 |
| 01:30.55 | Kirkburn | Ah, but you see ... I've barely "contibuted" |
| 01:31.12 | Sky2042 | Laraul: I don't know whether to agree or disagree with that assertion. |
| 01:31.15 | Kirkburn | But it would be impossible to say that I haven't contributed |
| 01:31.26 | Adys | contibuting, is that a weird way to walk? |
| 01:31.33 | Kirkburn | Shush you :P |
| 01:31.39 | Laraul | He is always altering other's people's work. |
| 01:31.40 | Sky2042 | It's an english thing. |
| 01:31.50 | Kirkburn | That's what wikis are all about |
| 01:32.15 | Adys | you dont create content on a wiki |
| 01:32.28 | Adys | wikipedia isnt about created content either |
| 01:32.37 | Adys | its documentation of existing content |
| 01:32.42 | Adys | and changes on that documentation |
| 01:32.43 | Adys | :/ |
| 01:32.43 | Kirkburn | This is true - even more so there, it's about collated content. |
| 01:32.46 | Laraul | He doesn't add content |
| 01:32.50 | Adys | so? |
| 01:33.10 | Charitwo | On WoWWiki? no, I haven't added content. |
| 01:33.17 | Kirkburn | Neither do I for the most part |
| 01:33.28 | Adys | neither did i when i was still editing |
| 01:33.30 | Adys | well barely |
| 01:33.31 | Sky2042 | wonders on the topic of trolls. |
| 01:33.33 | Charitwo | I personally don't play the game, or know too much about it. But I know enough about wikis to help out with various projects. |
| 01:33.46 | Kirkburn | (it's much appreciated) |
| 01:33.59 | Laraul | Ahh... but in Ffxiclopeida... |
| 01:34.10 | Sky2042 | 108 pages |
| 01:34.11 | Sky2042 | yay |
| 01:34.11 | Charitwo | yes, in FFXIclopedia I have added a lot of content |
| 01:34.31 | Sky2042 | gasps. idiot. |
| 01:34.45 | Sky2042 | so how do you say that, anyway? |
| 01:34.46 | Kirkburn | Blasphemer? |
| 01:34.53 | Laraul | Added what? |
| 01:34.53 | Sky2042 | fafazyclopedia? |
| 01:34.59 | Kirkburn | Sacrilege? |
| 01:35.01 | Charitwo | Sky2042: i prounounce it as Eff-Eff-Ex-Eye-clopedia |
| 01:35.08 | Kirkburn | Same here |
| 01:35.10 | Adys | like me \o/ |
| 01:35.11 | Sky2042 | huh |
| 01:35.39 | Kirkburn | fx-ee-clopedia is just ... wrong. So wrong. |
| 01:35.48 | Charitwo | me, mierin, gahoo, and chrisjander brought that up at the FFXI fan festival too |
| 01:35.51 | Adys | fexiclopedia? |
| 01:36.22 | Laraul | I mean I remember when someone made a change to the "Party" guide page. You un did the edit and then changed it so only an admin could make an edit. |
| 01:36.40 | Charitwo | because people were edit warring, i had 2 board messages saying people were fighting over it |
| 01:36.47 | Sky2042 | Oh yes, I remember you Laraul |
| 01:36.56 | Sky2042 | You soapboxed last time you were in the channel. |
| 01:37.18 | Laraul | Someone added NINJA as a DD. You undid that and locked the page. |
| 01:37.20 | Charitwo | Nobody wants him in our channel anymore, yet he still tries to ban evade |
| 01:37.52 | Laraul | Charitwo, Nothing goes on in that channel |
| 01:38.05 | Charitwo | says you, it's quite active during the day |
| 01:38.12 | Laraul | Sure it is... |
| 01:38.17 | Sky2042 | hopes Kirkburn noted that. |
| 01:38.56 | Kirkburn | I did, but I only really care about what people do in the place that they're in |
| 01:39.17 | Charitwo | Laraul: and as for partying, i have 0 tolerance for edit warring. When I get people coming to me with complaints about other people are having over content, I'm going to take action. And my action is that they will discuss changes rather than fight over them. |
| 01:39.19 | Sky2042 | was talking about what he said last. |
| 01:39.43 | Laraul | You are the one who hangs over looking for any edit you disagree with |
| 01:39.48 | Sky2042 | .... |
| 01:39.51 | Adys | ok thats it |
| 01:39.53 | Sky2042 | Laraul: Please go away. |
| 01:39.54 | Laraul | I mean look at your edit history |
| 01:39.58 | Adys | Laraul: one more trollbait you're out |
| 01:40.08 | Kirkburn | is starting to agree with Adys |
| 01:40.24 | Laraul | I agree I should leave |
| 01:40.25 | Sky2042 | agree'd with Adys before Adys agree'd with Adys. |
| 01:40.28 | Laraul | This is becominng personal |
| 01:40.40 | Kirkburn | And you're the one making it so |
| 01:40.42 | Kirkburn | So stop |
| 01:40.52 | Laraul | Yes I am. |
| 01:41.11 | Laraul | Just fustrated |
| 01:42.06 | Kirkburn | Arrested Development is so much fun to watch |
| 01:42.36 | Adys | is that a bunch of guys who suddenly decided coding in .net? |
| 01:42.37 | Laraul | Best show ever |
| 01:42.54 | Kirkburn | ooh, satire |
| 01:43.17 | Adys | http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=606465&cid=24093967 |
| 01:43.18 | Laraul | No I really like that show |
| 01:43.24 | Laraul | It's hillarious |
| 01:43.25 | Adys | probably been linked before in the chan |
| 01:43.25 | Kirkburn | I'm watching it again through from the beginning atm, fantastic writing |
| 01:43.54 | Laraul | When it was on Fox though it was unhead of and couldn't pull in good ratings |
| 01:44.27 | Laraul | And so well cast... |
| 01:46.15 | Laraul | It was well known in the industry. It was common to see a famous actor/actress/celeb playing a bit part |
| 01:46.28 | Laraul | I used to watch it on HDNET |
| 01:47.07 | Laraul | I don't get HDNET now... and once you see something in hi def it can be hard to go back |
| 01:53.16 | Sky2042 | bam bam |
| 01:54.26 | Kirkburn | Family Guy quote time .... Have you heard about sex in the ear? Once you go black, you go deaf. |
| 01:56.23 | Charitwo | !jobqueue |
| 01:56.26 | Dotted | The WoWWiki job queue length is currently 142435 |
| 01:57.08 | Laraul | what is that anyhow? |
| 01:57.48 | Sky2042 | http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Job_queue |
| 02:00.48 | Laraul | How does one go about editing a template that you did not create. I don't like changing something that will affect many hundred of pages. |
| 02:01.19 | Sky2042 | Laraul: In what case? |
| 02:01.50 | Kirkburn | Back in a little while |
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| 02:02.15 | Sky2042 | There he is. |
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| 02:02.39 | Sky2042 | pcj: can you delete http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Horde_Guilds ? |
| 02:02.43 | Sky2042 | (the guild in it) |
| 02:02.56 | pcj | god |
| 02:03.04 | pcj | what am i, the special delete requests guy |
| 02:03.05 | Laraul | There are many cases but are complex to explain |
| 02:04.18 | pcj | oops wrong one lol |
| 02:04.38 | Laraul | It's just not my work.... I would prefer to create my own template and offer that as an alternative... but that never goes anywhere |
| 02:05.03 | Sky2042 | pcj: heh. I just noted you were able to do it the other day... |
| 02:05.32 | Sky2042 | Laraul: better to improve the original. if you feel uncomfortable editing the main template, suggest the alteration on the talk page, or on the central discussion place you use. |
| 02:05.33 | Laraul | There are a million things I wanna do but just don't have the energy |
| 02:05.39 | pcj | there |
| 02:05.44 | pcj | i deleted the right one this time |
| 02:06.18 | Sky2042 | thanks pcj. |
| 02:06.28 | Sky2042 | I told kirkburn you could do it. He didn't believe me :( |
| 02:07.11 | pcj | i bet |
| 02:12.48 | Laraul | I need a nap.... |
| 02:12.55 | pcj | yes |
| 02:13.01 | pcj | gets out the chloroform |
| 02:13.35 | Laraul | I dunno when I'll stop by again. Hopefully when my mood isn't so confrontational. |
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| 02:40.05 | Sky2042 | hmm, kd3, have you just been working on NPCs and such? |
| 02:40.21 | Sky2042 | Or did you stretch it into talents and things? |
| 02:41.25 | kd3 | huh? |
| 02:44.37 | pcj | indeed |
| 02:44.43 | pcj | don't try to hide anything |
| 02:55.20 | Sky2042 | hides pcj. |
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| 03:28.28 | Kirkburn | PCs are too damn stressful |
| 03:28.36 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: ? |
| 03:28.38 | Kirkburn | Couple of times I thought I'd killed my PC |
| 03:28.47 | Sky2042 | Don't use one then. See what happens to your life. |
| 03:28.49 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 03:28.52 | Kirkburn | Trying to add a new harddrive |
| 03:28.58 | Kirkburn | I think it's dead on arrival |
| 03:29.01 | Sky2042 | xD |
| 03:29.07 | pcj | gz |
| 03:29.27 | Kirkburn | I mean, as far as I can tell I connected it up all right |
| 03:29.34 | Kirkburn | But it just caused the PC to hang on the POST |
| 03:29.35 | pcj | <@Sky2042> I told kirkburn you could do it. He didn't believe me :( |
| 03:29.35 | pcj | :o |
| 03:29.36 | pcj | <-- no sympathy |
| 03:30.06 | Sky2042 | why is you not havin simputhee for me man? |
| 03:30.21 | pcj | for kirkburn, duh |
| 03:30.30 | Kirkburn | When I started the PC this time, it said the CPU was "unworkable" or had been changed. |
| 03:31.10 | Kirkburn | Dunno how that works though, since it has to have a workable CPU to tell me |
| 03:31.42 | pcj | what brand is the motherboard |
| 03:31.58 | Kirkburn | abit |
| 03:32.05 | pcj | meh |
| 03:32.29 | pcj | how old |
| 03:33.03 | Kirkburn | Not very |
| 03:33.25 | pcj | i really don't see how your hard drive could damage your cpu |
| 03:33.28 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: come now, it's older than "not very" |
| 03:33.31 | Kirkburn | I think the CPU settings may have reset |
| 03:33.32 | pcj | does it work when you unplug the hard drive |
| 03:33.45 | Kirkburn | I'm typing on it ... |
| 03:34.06 | pcj | so you fixed the hard drive then? |
| 03:34.08 | Fisker- | slaps Kirkburn around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:34.14 | Kirkburn | I removed the new hard drive |
| 03:34.14 | Fisker- | OH U |
| 03:34.24 | Kirkburn | When it was in, it just clicked and whirred |
| 03:34.49 | Fisker- | Kirkburn did you shut down in a "inaproppiate" manner? |
| 03:35.17 | Fisker- | Many motherboards believe that it has been a crash if the computer has been shutdown by removal of power or similar |
| 03:35.37 | Fisker- | and so that the computer can start up again they usually downclock the cpu |
| 03:35.51 | Kirkburn | I did indeed shut down inappropriately |
| 03:35.52 | pcj | <Fisker-> Many motherboards believe |
| 03:35.56 | pcj | is it like a motherboard religion |
| 03:36.10 | Kirkburn | I think my CPU has also downclocked |
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| 03:36.33 | Fisker- | indeed pcj |
| 03:36.41 | Fisker- | all power to the north bridge! |
| 03:36.42 | Kirkburn | Not sure though, I'm not certain it was overclocked |
| 03:36.51 | Fisker- | Doesn't matter |
| 03:37.06 | Fisker- | If the motherboard thinks the computer was shut down improperly it'll say it regardlessly |
| 03:37.08 | Kirkburn | Well anyway, thanks for the info. |
| 03:37.16 | Kirkburn | That reassures me :) |
| 03:37.39 | Kirkburn | When I put everything back to normal, one of the cables got caught on a fan, so I had to shut down fast |
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| 03:38.09 | Fisker- | i burned out a chipset fan on that |
| 03:38.23 | Kirkburn | Annoying that my G15 doesn't work for the POST though |
| 03:38.33 | Kirkburn | Had to get an old keyboard :/ |
| 03:38.43 | Fisker- | You may have to go in and look for a USB keyboard option |
| 03:38.47 | Fisker- | then it usually works again |
| 03:39.10 | Kirkburn | I tried a PS/2 one first, then basic USB one which worked |
| 03:39.33 | Fisker- | weird |
| 03:39.40 | Fisker- | mine works with usb keyboard support enabled |
| 03:41.48 | Kirkburn | I'm gonna tidy away my stuff and destress |
| 03:41.58 | Sky2042 | oop;s |
| 03:42.02 | Kirkburn | I'm not reeeally concious of the sound of my harddrive |
| 03:42.07 | Kirkburn | s/not/now/ |
| 03:43.18 | Kirkburn | Oooh, Andy Serkis is gonna be Captain Haddock |
| 03:44.33 | Fisker- | what harddrive did you get btw? |
| 03:45.10 | Kirkburn | As I recently found out, it's almost the same drive as the one I already have in here :P |
| 03:45.14 | Kirkburn | Seagate 500GB |
| 03:45.30 | Kirkburn | Barracuda 7200 |
| 03:45.32 | Fisker- | :o |
| 03:45.32 | Sky2042 | starts gibbering |
| 03:45.54 | Kirkburn | What? |
| 03:46.30 | Fisker- | moo: hdd: C:\ 215.49GB/279.45GB D:\ 820.42GB/931.51GB E:\ 721.95GB/931.51GB |
| 03:46.33 | Fisker- | /flex |
| 03:46.35 | Fisker- | and what not |
| 03:48.44 | Sky2042 | yay, five more |
| 03:48.49 | Sky2042 | then i can delete the category |
| 03:49.37 | Fisker- | btw |
| 03:49.40 | Fisker- | make no mistake |
| 03:49.47 | Fisker- | the first drive is just a rawr rawr velociraptor |
| 03:49.48 | Fisker- | :D |
| 03:50.34 | pcj | is it solid state |
| 03:51.27 | Fisker- | not the rawr rawr velociratpro |
| 03:51.32 | Fisker- | velociraptor* |
| 03:51.35 | pcj | lame |
| 03:51.42 | Fisker- | SSD isn't effective enough yet |
| 03:51.45 | Fisker- | atleast not for it's price |
| 03:51.48 | Kirkburn | zomg, the Tintin scriptwriter is the dude behind Doctor Who's best episodes :) |
| 03:51.56 | Fisker- | mofatt? |
| 03:52.01 | pcj | i heard STD is a good alternative |
| 03:52.16 | Fisker- | it is |
| 03:52.20 | Fisker- | then you die a horrible death |
| 03:52.26 | Fisker- | never to be worried about hardware again |
| 03:53.15 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, indeed |
| 04:06.13 | Sky2042 | figures |
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| 04:43.33 | kd3 | gah, it's attack of the clones |
| 04:44.11 | Fisker- | hoho? |
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| 06:39.09 | ZENANON | LONG AGO IN A DISTANT LAND |
| 06:39.11 | ZENANON | I, AKU, THE SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF DARKNESS |
| 06:39.13 | ZENANON | I, AKU, THE SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF DARKNESS |
| 06:39.15 | ZENANON | I, AKU, THE SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF DARKNESS |
| 06:39.17 | ZENANON | UNLEASHED AN UNSPEAKABLE EVIL |
| 06:39.17 | ZENANON | I, AKU, THE SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF DARKNESS |
| 06:39.19 | ZENANON | I, AKU, THE SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF DARKNESS |
| 06:39.21 | ZENANON | BUT A FOOLISH SAMURAI WARRIOR |
| 06:39.21 | ZENANON | I, AKU, THE SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF DARKNESS |
| 06:39.24 | ZENANON | WIELDING A MAGIC SWORD |
| 06:39.25 | ZENANON | UNLEASHED AN UNSPEAKABLE EVIL |
| 06:39.25 | ZENANON | I, AKU, THE SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF DARKNESS |
| 06:39.26 | ZENANON | STEPPED FORTH TO OPPOSE ME. |
| 06:39.28 | ZENANON | I, AKU, THE SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF DARKNESS |
| 06:39.32 | ZENANON | BEFORE THE FINAL BLOW WAS STRUCK, |
| 06:39.34 | ZENANON | I, AKU, THE SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF DARKNESS |
| 06:39.36 | ZENANON | BUT A FOOLISH SAMURAI WARRIOR |
| 06:39.38 | ZENANON | UNLEASHED AN UNSPEAKABLE EVIL |
| 06:39.40 | ZENANON | I, AKU, THE SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF DARKNESS |
| 06:39.42 | ZENANON | I TWOAH OPEN A PWOHTAWL IN TIME |
| 06:39.44 | ZENANON | I, AKU, THE SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF DARKNESS |
| 06:39.46 | ZENANON | AND FLUNG HIM INTO THE FUTURE, |
| 06:39.48 | ZENANON | I, AKU, THE SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF DARKNESS |
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| 06:39.51 | ZENANON | WHERE MY EVIL IS LAW! |
| 06:39.52 | ZENANON | WIELDING A MAGIC SWORD |
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| 06:39.59 | *** kick/#wowwiki [ZENANON!n=kd3@user-11215mn.dsl.mindspring.com] by kd3 (kd3) |
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| 06:50.39 | Nechckn | That was actually semi-interesting spam, at least =) |
| 07:01.18 | Adys | I totally miss the point |
| 07:08.34 | Adys | http://questionablecontent.net/comics/1182.png |
| 07:08.50 | Adys | hanners is absolutely hilarious and cute |
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| 07:39.06 | Xillinx | so what exactly is this chan about? |
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| 07:42.00 | bleeter | my sex appeal |
| 07:42.05 | bleeter | and kirkburn's boobies |
| 07:46.32 | Kalroth | fondles bleeter *there* |
| 07:54.56 | Adys | thinks that "boobies" ping Kalroth |
| 07:55.04 | Kalroth | ! |
| 07:55.13 | Adys | waits for the "My boobies will do much more than just pinging you" joke |
| 07:55.26 | Kalroth | sits down and waits too. |
| 07:58.25 | pb_ee1 | Note that the guy who asked the question has left IRC. |
| 07:58.55 | Adys | who cares as long as we can talk about boobies |
| 07:59.23 | pb_ee1 | True. What about yours Adys? |
| 08:06.06 | Adys | Kalroth |
| 08:06.18 | Adys | are you around dear? |
| 08:06.25 | Kalroth | Yessir! |
| 08:06.30 | Adys | Lets cyber? |
| 08:07.07 | Kalroth | I can't, coffee break soon |
| 08:07.18 | Adys | Ive drank the coffee |
| 08:07.22 | winkiller | uhm, there was this: http://i.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/<itemid>.jpg |
| 08:07.30 | winkiller | anyone knows of a similar scheme? |
| 08:07.38 | Adys | er? |
| 08:07.41 | winkiller | accessible by item id |
| 08:07.47 | winkiller | not INV_potion_14. |
| 08:08.11 | Adys | uhm its doable |
| 08:09.15 | winkiller | I know that it's doable :P |
| 08:09.27 | Adys | what are you looking for exactly? |
| 08:09.44 | winkiller | I have a script (Not mine) with these paths |
| 08:10.02 | winkiller | and I don't want to make a lookup itemid -> icon name |
| 08:10.14 | winkiller | this hardcoded thott url doesn't work anymore |
| 08:11.27 | Adys | no idea |
| 08:12.08 | Kalroth | http://i.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/INV_Potion_14.jpg works here |
| 08:12.22 | Adys | he wants http://i.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/12345.jpg |
| 08:12.34 | Kalroth | oh, no can do |
| 08:13.15 | Kalroth | not without an item id -> icon name table |
| 08:13.34 | Adys | which is seemingly what thottbot had :p |
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| 08:14.00 | Kalroth | I doubt that |
| 08:14.08 | winkiller | it's hardcoded in this script |
| 08:14.14 | winkiller | I doubt he would make that up |
| 08:14.17 | winkiller | (the author) |
| 08:14.27 | Kalroth | did the script ever work? |
| 08:14.32 | winkiller | I guess so |
| 08:14.39 | Adys | its not hard to do Kalroth |
| 08:14.40 | winkiller | everything else works |
| 08:14.41 | Kalroth | well have you ever seen it work? |
| 08:14.46 | winkiller | just the icons give 404 |
| 08:15.06 | winkiller | why would it be on WOWI 95% working except a deliberate 404 >< |
| 08:15.22 | Adys | make apache rewrite url on (\d)+.jpg |
| 08:15.26 | Adys | to some other script |
| 08:15.31 | Adys | that outputs the icon |
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| 08:15.38 | Adys | quite a simple lookup |
| 08:15.40 | Kalroth | why would thottbot make 234592834 copies of icons when all he needs is a simple item id -> icon name table |
| 08:15.51 | Adys | because those arent copies :P |
| 08:16.07 | Adys | you just make a hot redirect with any script |
| 08:16.13 | Kalroth | Why would he remove the functionality then? |
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| 08:16.22 | Adys | because thottbot sucks |
| 08:16.23 | Kalroth | I really doubt it was there in the first place |
| 08:16.29 | Adys | shit did i say that out loud |
| 08:16.44 | Kalroth | It's most likely just the script author that didn't bother or just didn't know how to fix the icon reference |
| 08:16.55 | winkiller | I find that highly unlikely |
| 08:17.28 | Adys | everything is relative |
| 08:19.07 | Kalroth | what's the name of the script, winkiller? |
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| 08:22.36 | winkiller | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8060-PossessionsBrowser.html |
| 08:23.14 | winkiller | I'm just doing the lookup myself now, but it would've been possible easier :P |
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| 08:27.18 | Kalroth | you're reading the PHP wrong |
| 08:27.28 | Kalroth | he doesn't do <itemid<.jpg |
| 08:27.33 | Kalroth | <itemid>.jpg |
| 08:28.48 | winkiller | oh well, random numbers != icon name |
| 08:28.53 | winkiller | I don't care what random number |
| 08:29.09 | Kalroth | uhm, it's not a random number, it's the .. gasp, icon name property! |
| 08:29.37 | winkiller | I've never bothered with Blizzard's icon naming scheme |
| 08:29.44 | Kalroth | .. |
| 08:29.55 | winkiller | so INV_Chest_Plate02 is the only 02 out there? |
| 08:30.08 | Kalroth | INV_Chest_Plate02 is the only INV_Chest_Plate02 icon, yes |
| 08:30.20 | Kalroth | There might be multiple items pointing to that icon though |
| 08:30.21 | Adys | ...? |
| 08:30.34 | Adys | items have a display id |
| 08:30.36 | winkiller | yeah. and what does that change? |
| 08:30.42 | Adys | that display id is assigned textures, model, and icon |
| 08:30.50 | winkiller | file_get_contents(http://i.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/3.jpg) failed to open stream |
| 08:30.51 | Adys | its kept in itemdisplayinfo.dbc |
| 08:31.01 | Kalroth | that will never work, winkiller |
| 08:31.14 | winkiller | how is this different for me that it would be wirh 27129.jpg? :P |
| 08:31.17 | Kalroth | You can't do http://i.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/<itemid>.jpg and the author never did |
| 08:31.29 | Kalroth | Learn to read the PHP |
| 08:31.34 | winkiller | I don't have to |
| 08:31.45 | winkiller | it doesn't work so I need a solution |
| 08:31.51 | winkiller | I don't care whether he did it wrong |
| 08:31.59 | winkiller | to change it to itemid would also be 1 line |
| 08:32.13 | Kalroth | And you don't care about Blizzards naming scheme either |
| 08:32.28 | winkiller | I didn't look closely, I agree - but it simply doesn't matter |
| 08:32.39 | winkiller | I never saw just 2, 30, 200 jpg |
| 08:38.34 | winkiller | rofl, using explode(":" instead of unserialize - a true pro |
| 08:39.12 | Adys | how about using python instead of lame languages? a true pro ! :P |
| 08:39.21 | winkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:45.22 | pb_ee1 | Python is dangerous. |
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| 08:57.28 | winkiller | ok, it works |
| 08:58.02 | winkiller | that thing isn't really good, but a nice idea |
| 08:58.06 | winkiller | and I think it will do |
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| 10:21.59 | Dotted | "Your e-mail have won the sum of £516,778.00 pounds" <- holy shit im imaginary rich |
| 10:23.09 | Dotted | also i got 3 of them, does that mean i get £1,550,334.00 pounds? |
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| 10:26.58 | g0urra | good morning |
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| 13:57.47 | pb_ee1 | Everybody has seen the videos of The Occulus, Halls of Stone and/or CoT3 presented at the WWI? |
| 13:58.07 | pb_ee1 | Has everybody seen * btw |
| 14:04.01 | Peluned | Nope |
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| 15:04.35 | g0urra | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.11 | g0urra | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=9928.0 yay |
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| 15:07.51 | Fisker- | g0urra |
| 15:07.53 | Fisker- | you are destroyed |
| 15:07.59 | g0urra | oh u~ |
| 15:08.13 | Fisker- | NO U |
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| 15:09.24 | Fisker- | Heals a friendly target for an amount equal to the Paladin's maximum health and restores 1950 of their mana. Drains all of the Paladin's remaining mana when used. |
| 15:09.25 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 15:09.29 | Fisker- | JUST BUFF IT ALREADY |
| 15:11.50 | foxlit | /point /laugh |
| 15:11.54 | foxlit | clearly not datamined |
| 15:12.50 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 15:15.25 | Bibi` | foxlit : what ? |
| 15:15.34 | Bibi` | and what's datamining exactly ? |
| 15:15.38 | Bibi` | I'd be happy if you could explain that ! |
| 15:16.31 | foxlit | in this context, I'd define it as automated extraction of data from stored files. |
| 15:16.49 | Bibi | how could you extract stuff from files stored on WWI machines ????? |
| 15:16.51 | Bibi | you must be mistaken sir ! |
| 15:17.05 | foxlit | Who said it had to be WWI machines? |
| 15:17.18 | Bibi | Well |
| 15:17.48 | Bibi | I'm only allowed to post stuff from the WWI |
| 15:17.52 | Bibi | so, it has to be from the WWI machines |
| 15:18.13 | amro | during WWI machines didn't have memory |
| 15:18.26 | Fisker- | also it's perfectly allowed to release it anyways |
| 15:18.34 | Fisker- | how do i read nda? |
| 15:18.53 | Fisker- | also ww shouldn't be lecturing others on datamining |
| 15:18.58 | Fisker- | you do it yourself afterall :) |
| 15:20.01 | foxlit | Hey, I reserve my right to hypocrisy! |
| 15:20.09 | Fisker- | <-reboot tiems |
| 15:20.27 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Quest_data.ods wait what |
| 15:22.29 | foxlit | Bibi: presumably WWI ran some specific build of wow |
| 15:22.55 | foxlit | Which could well have existed outside it :) |
| 15:22.56 | pcj | http://filext.com/file-extension/ods |
| 15:22.59 | g0urra | So someone wrote down all the ranks of the spells? |
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| 15:24.43 | Bibi | [17:20:20] <foxlit> Hey, I reserve my right to hypocrisy! |
| 15:24.47 | Bibi | So do I |
| 15:24.48 | Bibi | ^^ |
| 15:25.00 | foxlit | Good, good :) |
| 15:26.08 | Fisker- | you all disgust me! |
| 15:26.18 | foxlit | You're a professional troll |
| 15:26.24 | Fisker- | yes |
| 15:26.30 | foxlit | I think you signed away your right to be disgusted a long, long time ago |
| 15:26.47 | Fisker- | nono |
| 15:27.03 | Fisker- | cause that's part of my trolling |
| 15:27.20 | foxlit | Dramatic effect sort of thing? |
| 15:27.29 | Fisker- | yes |
| 15:28.02 | foxlit | okay, keep it up. |
| 15:28.06 | Fisker- | cool |
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| 15:35.41 | winkiller | oh my god. a new realm |
| 15:35.48 | winkiller | all the ninja rerollers surely rejoiced |
| 15:36.15 | amro | watch the population peak and drop dramatically within a month |
| 15:37.05 | AckisWork | with new realms, by the time they open up transfers the AQ gates are already opened? |
| 15:37.28 | winkiller | AckisWork: exactly that's one of the best threads inthe forums :P |
| 15:38.43 | AckisWork | don't read the forums |
| 15:38.52 | winkiller | I just stopped by |
| 15:39.02 | winkiller | to see how a fresh realm forum looks like |
| 15:39.17 | winkiller | "please post A:H ratio" answer: it's 313:333 |
| 15:39.25 | winkiller | that's hilarious |
| 15:39.29 | AckisWork | heh, I need to finish the AQ gate quest however, need to get shards from green dragons for my last chain |
| 15:39.34 | AckisWork | winkiller: rofl |
| 15:39.53 | winkiller | yeah :) worth the 15mins for a good laugh |
| 15:40.29 | winkiller | <First> are elitist!? |
| 15:40.33 | winkiller | <Second> has formed |
| 15:40.42 | winkiller | such threads = win |
| 15:40.49 | AckisWork | I'm still holding out hope that there will be a bug one day that lets me get it |
| 15:42.10 | winkiller | Alliance had <First> |
| 15:42.12 | winkiller | " Second is going strong, allready over 80 members, highest lvl when writing this is lvl 13. " |
| 15:42.53 | amro | I still wish we could back to initial release in '04 |
| 15:43.33 | ralfWORK | why? |
| 15:43.52 | amro | it was a ton of fun =) |
| 15:43.57 | amro | at least on my realm |
| 15:44.01 | ralfWORK | hah gotcha |
| 15:44.20 | amro | on other realms it was horrible |
| 15:44.39 | ralfWORK | I can only imagine what it was like |
| 15:44.43 | amro | I remember this one restart that caused hunters to lose call pet and be unable to relearn |
| 15:44.52 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 15:45.13 | ralfWORK | I don't remember when I started playing, but I hit 58 when BC came out |
| 15:45.48 | ralfWORK | I do wish they would send us back to older content sometimes |
| 15:46.03 | ralfWORK | or retune it for top level |
| 15:46.10 | amro | yes. heroic zeroth instances |
| 15:46.13 | amro | azeroth* |
| 15:46.19 | ralfWORK | yea man, I'd do a heroic Stocks ;) |
| 15:46.26 | ralfWORK | ok maybe not stocks |
| 15:46.36 | ralfWORK | but any of the 50-60 instances |
| 15:46.38 | ralfWORK | why not? |
| 15:46.43 | ralfWORK | heroic brd ftl |
| 15:47.59 | winkiller | awesome, the highest is lvl 15 :P |
| 15:50.35 | winkiller | rofl "3rd bag!" in general chat |
| 15:50.38 | winkiller | just priceless |
| 15:51.48 | Fisker- | your world is doomed and etc. |
| 15:53.12 | winkiller | and first goldspammer (incl. levelling service) :P |
| 15:53.24 | amro | hahah |
| 15:53.29 | ralfWORK | oh shit |
| 15:53.30 | ralfWORK | ahahahahaah |
| 15:53.35 | ralfWORK | that's bad |
| 15:53.54 | amro | at this point though wouldn't it be silver spammers? |
| 15:54.04 | ralfWORK | I'm thinking yes |
| 15:54.57 | ralfWORK | demand 1000g now |
| 15:55.26 | ralfWORK | actually, isn't character transfer near instant now? |
| 15:57.22 | amro | not allowed for some months on a new realm |
| 15:57.32 | ralfWORK | ohhh gotcha |
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| 16:09.57 | fric | you guys think it's ok to add the death knight class color to the wiki now that it's been showed at WWI2008? |
| 16:11.29 | Fisker- | yes |
| 16:11.34 | ralfWORK | what color is it? |
| 16:11.50 | Fisker- | shitbrown? |
| 16:11.57 | ralfWORK | I don't like shitbrown |
| 16:12.06 | ralfWORK | I vote don't use it ;) |
| 16:12.06 | fric | ye :P |
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| 16:14.19 | fric | although |
| 16:14.50 | fric | the actual color code couldn't be accessed at wwi |
| 16:15.07 | fric | so I'll let that be for now |
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| 17:34.18 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 17:34.26 | ralfWORK | looking at some of the early class abilities for wotlk |
| 17:34.43 | ralfWORK | they'd better nerf the shit outa them before it comes out :P |
| 17:35.56 | sacarasc | or make it so all classes have something similar |
| 17:36.10 | ralfWORK | all classes should not be able to do all things |
| 17:36.16 | ralfWORK | that's the point of having classes :P |
| 17:36.32 | ralfWORK | shadowpriest AOE and evocate? lol |
| 17:39.13 | sacarasc | i mean similar as in you says they should be nerfed |
| 17:39.29 | ralfWORK | hmm? |
| 17:39.44 | foxlit | It's not evocation :) |
| 17:39.57 | foxlit | Besides, that cat was out of the bag with shadowfiend |
| 17:39.59 | ralfWORK | well maybe I read it wrong. it sure as hell smells like evocation |
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| 17:40.43 | foxlit | nah, it restores mana too |
| 17:40.55 | foxlit | but that's far from the only thing it does, nor is it the primary purpose |
| 17:41.12 | ralfWORK | we won't have to use sw:p anymore it doesn't look like |
| 17:41.19 | ralfWORK | I mean seriously |
| 17:41.25 | ralfWORK | what doesn't sound OP about this |
| 17:42.56 | AckisWork | I need advice on jewelry stores in Canada... cheap but good :P |
| 17:45.04 | ralfWORK | hah |
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| 17:53.34 | ralfWORK | yea. ok. just did talent |
| 17:53.35 | ralfWORK | s |
| 17:53.38 | ralfWORK | and wow. ahahaahah |
| 17:55.28 | ralfWORK | oh and you're right |
| 17:55.36 | ralfWORK | it's like evocate + cloak of shadows |
| 18:03.24 | foxlit | +bandage+silence |
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| 18:10.28 | ralfWORK | eh I guess |
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| 18:34.37 | Sky2042 | how come pcj was removing all the defaultsorts? |
| 18:34.41 | Sky2042 | asks g0urra and foxlit. |
| 18:34.51 | g0urra | shrugs |
| 18:35.00 | foxlit | Is Guild: a real namespace now? |
| 18:35.05 | Sky2042 | foxlit: yes. |
| 18:35.17 | Sky2042 | hmm |
| 18:35.17 | foxlit | Are the defaultsorts still needed in that case? |
| 18:35.23 | Sky2042 | yes |
| 18:35.28 | Sky2042 | categories are stupid that way |
| 18:35.30 | Sky2042 | :/ |
| 18:35.46 | Sky2042 | however, it is possible {{guild}} automatically cats per pagename. |
| 18:35.46 | Dotted | Sky2042 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:guild |
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| 18:35.49 | Sky2042 | goes to look |
| 18:35.56 | Sky2042 | speak of the devil |
| 18:36.06 | Sky2042 | pcj: why the removal of all the defaultsorts? |
| 18:36.23 | pcj | because {{DEFAULTSORT:{{PAGENAME}}}} is the default behavior |
| 18:36.23 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:DEFAULTSORT:{{PAGENAME |
| 18:36.31 | Sky2042 | no it's not... |
| 18:36.38 | pcj | ...yes it is |
| 18:36.48 | Sky2042 | no... |
| 18:36.54 | Sky2042 | (see any template category) |
| 18:37.53 | Sky2042 | {{DEFAULTSORT:{{FULLPAGENAME}}}} is the default behavior. which includes the namespace. |
| 18:37.53 | Dotted | Sky2042 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:DEFAULTSORT:{{FULLPAGENAME |
| 18:38.02 | g0urra | {{{name|PAGENAME}}} |
| 18:38.03 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:{name|PAGENAME |
| 18:38.05 | g0urra | See what's wrong? |
| 18:38.19 | Sky2042 | lol, Dotted, another fix for j00 imo. |
| 18:43.28 | Sky2042 | !jobqueue |
| 18:43.29 | Dotted | The WoWWiki job queue length is currently 16072 |
| 18:44.10 | Dotted | pcj lrn2wiki |
| 18:44.30 | Sky2042 | Dotted: well, other than the fact it's not a template |
| 18:44.38 | Sky2042 | ie, Dotted l2wiki |
| 18:45.05 | Dotted | i done give a shit btw |
| 18:45.15 | Sky2042 | we noticed. |
| 18:50.51 | g0urra | Bibi, did you notice that the "Source" link on the new realm is www.mmo-champion.com? |
| 18:51.12 | g0urra | s/on the/about the/ |
| 18:52.40 | Bibi | no it's not ! |
| 18:54.53 | Sky2042 | omfg |
| 18:54.57 | Sky2042 | jimbo just edited our page |
| 18:55.10 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Questions_for_Activision_Blizzard_CEO_Robert_Kotick.3F |
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| 18:59.43 | g0urra | Jimbo...? |
| 19:01.09 | g0urra | Oh, he's the creater of Wikipedia. |
| 19:01.14 | g0urra | creator* |
| 19:01.32 | g0urra | and Wikia. |
| 19:02.47 | Sky2042 | God-King. |
| 19:02.56 | Sky2042 | co-creator of both, actually. |
| 19:03.17 | Sky2042 | Ragestorm: What was Kirochi freaking out about the other day? |
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| 19:04.10 | Ragestorm | Nothing much, actually. He has a habit of over-estimating problems and/or my reaction |
| 19:04.42 | Ragestorm | He heard back from the woman he knows at Blizzard |
| 19:04.50 | Sky2042 | figured. |
| 19:06.14 | Ragestorm | He should be more worried about Baggins's reaction. |
| 19:07.18 | Sky2042 | Other than the fact she said that the RPG isn't canon? |
| 19:07.34 | Ragestorm | No, she explained in more detail. |
| 19:07.42 | Sky2042 | Oh? |
| 19:09.34 | Ragestorm | Apparently, most of it predates the establishment of CDev |
| 19:10.22 | Sky2042 | CDev? |
| 19:10.33 | Ragestorm | The more recent stuff is all grilled and goes through CDev, so it's in keeping with the lore. |
| 19:10.40 | Ragestorm | Creative Development |
| 19:10.41 | Sky2042 | What is that, the QA department for lore? |
| 19:10.44 | Sky2042 | Ah. |
| 19:11.12 | Ragestorm | So anything from before 2005 is highly suspect at the very least. |
| 19:11.21 | Sky2042 | Bah. |
| 19:11.29 | Sky2042 | Anything else from her? |
| 19:11.31 | Ragestorm | The RPG is the main problem because it's the largest 3rd party |
| 19:11.32 | g0urra | clicks the "Nuke Wiki" button |
| 19:12.05 | Sky2042 | Is she saying that the books are suspect also? |
| 19:12.13 | Sky2042 | As in, LG? |
| 19:12.22 | Ragestorm | She was specifically asked about the RPG |
| 19:12.37 | Kyrin | Sky2042: So... do we have questions for Rob? |
| 19:13.11 | Sky2042 | I have a question, but I think I'd get eated by Kirkburn if I asked it. |
| 19:13.49 | Ragestorm | Who's Rob, and why is Kirk going to eat you? |
| 19:14.08 | Kyrin | Ragestorm: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Questions_for_Activision_Blizzard_CEO_Robert_Kotick.3F |
| 19:14.08 | Sky2042 | Ragestorm: See the bottom post on [[WW:VP]] |
| 19:14.08 | Dotted | Sky2042 meant: www.wowwiki.com/WW:VP |
| 19:14.15 | Kyrin | or that |
| 19:14.19 | Sky2042 | :] |
| 19:15.39 | Ragestorm | Well, how much can we ask? Everybody and their cousin's been saying that the merger won't affect Blizzard and that the name change is aesthetic. |
| 19:16.07 | Sky2042 | Something that isn't related to the merger/move? |
| 19:16.37 | g0urra | Anyone think this is a good computer? http://tinyurl.com/6bztq8 |
| 19:16.42 | Ragestorm | I got nothing. I don't think this guy knows anything about WoW lore |
| 19:16.49 | g0urra | (tinyurl'd because of long URL) |
| 19:16.56 | Sky2042 | KEYLOGGER |
| 19:17.08 | Sky2042 | Kotick doesn't have a wikipedia article... |
| 19:17.09 | Kyrin | hp website doesn't usually have keyloggers |
| 19:17.11 | g0urra | :C |
| 19:17.21 | g0urra | Looks liek dis http://www.elgiganten.se/is-bin/intershop.static/WFS/store-elgigantenSE-Site/-/sv_SE/images/mx/padv6809eo_mx.jpg |
| 19:17.27 | Sky2042 | realizes chance to make second original article. |
| 19:18.10 | Kyrin | g0urra: I would see if you can get the ABG card swapped for an AGN |
| 19:25.33 | g0urra | Hmm I don't know |
| 19:26.44 | g0urra | What's the difference Kyrin? |
| 19:27.21 | *** join/#wowwiki Sandwichman2448 (n=cyrillpi@142.231.101.97.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 19:27.57 | Kyrin | N is the newer standard |
| 19:27.59 | Sandwichman2448 | Whoa. |
| 19:28.02 | Kyrin | higher rates, greater ranges |
| 19:28.45 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Questions_for_Activision_Blizzard_CEO_Robert_Kotick.3F |
| 19:29.26 | Kyrin | B is 11mbps, a & g are 54mbps, g is backwards compatible with b, and connets to most commonly found networks, a is rarely found in the wild, n will be found increasingly more often |
| 19:29.35 | winkiller | foxlit: your sig is still linking to old username, dunno if that's intentional |
| 19:29.48 | Sky2042 | winkiller: Working as intended (don't ask me why) |
| 19:29.55 | winkiller | heeh |
| 19:30.00 | Kyrin | also, an n card has three antennae, you will still get stronger connection to non-n networks |
| 19:30.14 | winkiller | I tend do never hover my own sig.. I wouldnt notice in a year |
| 19:30.27 | g0urra | bah I found another HP comp with AGN but it cost $200 more :/ |
| 19:30.31 | g0urra | hm wait |
| 19:30.33 | Kyrin | =/ |
| 19:30.54 | g0urra | make that 200 |
| 19:31.17 | Sky2042 | that a euro sign? |
| 19:32.02 | g0urra | yes |
| 19:32.03 | Sandwichman2448 | I feel this opportunity is a bit ironic with the liaison thing. |
| 19:32.25 | g0urra | Kyrin: this is the one with AGN http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01414873&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN |
| 19:32.37 | Sandwichman2448 | I also may have no idea what I am talking about. |
| 19:36.00 | Sky2042 | Ah, that's why I didn't know the name |
| 19:36.17 | Sky2042 | The guy was CEO for Activision, and is taking over as CEO for Activision Blizzard |
| 19:36.38 | Kyrin | g0urra: faster cpu, also, 3x the L2 cache, and biometric finger reader... hrm, first one had 2 headphone out |
| 19:36.43 | Sandwichman2448 | Still whoa. |
| 19:36.45 | Fisker- | slaps Kyrin around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:36.57 | Kyrin | eh? |
| 19:37.07 | Sandwichman2448 | Where do you get all these trout? |
| 19:37.18 | Kyrin | I do like sushi |
| 19:37.19 | ralfWORK | biometric? |
| 19:37.20 | ralfWORK | fail |
| 19:38.04 | Ragestorm | Is trout used to make sushi? |
| 19:38.09 | g0urra | Yeah that's something I can live without. |
| 19:38.16 | Sandwichman2448 | does not know. |
| 19:38.34 | Kyrin | hdd is also bigger |
| 19:38.36 | ralfWORK | I've never seen trout sushi |
| 19:39.30 | g0urra | but $333 more for that? |
| 19:41.21 | Kyrin | more cpu, more hdd, more L2 cache, and the ABG->AGN... |
| 19:43.16 | Sandwichman2448 | What would one ask a CEO that would fit on this wiki? |
| 19:44.19 | Sky2042 | To boot, one who's coming from Activision and not the other way around. |
| 19:44.20 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 19:44.45 | Kyrin | Ask if they appreciate the efforts of the fans? |
| 19:44.52 | Sandwichman2448 | Hmm... |
| 19:45.07 | Sandwichman2448 | Do they? |
| 19:45.14 | Kyrin | something to that effect |
| 19:45.32 | Ragestorm | they probably do, where do they think their money comes from? |
| 19:46.05 | Sandwichman2448 | I do not think he ment 'efforts' as in 'money'. |
| 19:46.09 | Sky2042 | He probably just wants the extra money. |
| 19:46.11 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 19:46.40 | Sky2042 | Oh |
| 19:46.46 | Sky2042 | Activision Blizzard includes Sierra. |
| 19:46.49 | Sky2042 | Did not know that. |
| 19:47.10 | Ragestorm | Yeah, Blizz and Sierra were Vivendi subsids. |
| 19:48.03 | Ragestorm | I really can't think of anything to ask that didn't already come up on the EU inquiry. |
| 19:49.11 | Sky2042 | He's a board member for Yahoo! too. |
| 19:49.24 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:O.O.png |
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| 20:05.36 | g0urra | I've never really understood people who blank their talk pages. |
| 20:11.05 | Ragestorm | Particularly if they never had the courtesy to acknowledge official warnings |
| 20:12.46 | g0urra | Well that did it, I typed "/who" in AV and WoW crashed. |
| 20:14.14 | Ragestorm | WoW. |
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| 21:11.23 | Sky2042 | Ragestorm: it's inferred that if a person blanks his talk page, he must have noticed the warning |
| 21:12.05 | Ragestorm | If a person LOGS IN, they notice the warning. |
| 21:13.29 | Ragestorm | I just like to know I'm repremanding someone who made a mistake and not someone who's an <expletive removed> |
| 21:14.29 | Sky2042 | heh |
| 21:17.49 | foxlit | zomg <censorship> |
| 21:20.28 | pcj | yeah well #$@# you too #$@#ing mother-@#$#er |
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