IRC log for #wowwiki on 20080706

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00:03.25Jimdinventorhmmm.  I am being beaten by "processing order".
00:03.39Jimdinventor<PROTECTED>
00:03.55Jimdinventoron the page, not an actual substitution
00:04.02JimdinventorI think I read about this though ...
00:04.39g0urranot two :
00:04.49g0urra{{SUBST:Category:Quests:Alterac Mountains}}
00:05.09JimdinventorIf not two :, then it substs Template:, I believe
00:05.17g0urranope
00:06.23Jimdinventorokay, you're right, but processing order still is a problem :-(
00:06.30Bagginswwyay a day and a half until I leave for Kuaui.
00:06.56Jimdinventorroughly the same amount of time it would take me to locate it on a map
00:06.59Jimdinventor;-)
00:24.10winkillerlol
00:25.03JimdinventorI'm sorry, sir - may I see your license for that lol?  No unqualified lols are allowed on deck at this time.
00:26.41winkillershows a scribbled note
00:27.13JimdinventorI'll run this by my superior.  In the meantime, take a seat, continue chuckling.
00:28.32g0urraHmm why did you use {{#sub}}
00:28.56Jimdinventorit constructs the old name from the new name
00:29.14Jimdinventorthis is actually a "best fit" -- not what I wanted.  I'm doing the last step manually.
00:29.27JimdinventorSee: Deadwind Pass quests
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00:37.13Jimdinventormmm!  we have 5 quests in the Howling Fjord section already
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00:44.56LordTBTI had a question regarding your monaco theme
00:45.12g0urraYesss?
00:45.26LordTBTthe grey borders around the boxes, where is that in monaco.css ?
00:46.39JimdinventorI'm hoping there is an answer, 'cause I've never opened the monaco.css. :-)
00:47.58LordTBTwell someone has, heh.
00:49.14JimdinventorYup, it's probably up to the Ops of this channel to say.
00:50.13g0urraKirkburn|afk poke
00:51.26winkillerhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Fansites&diff=1495848&oldid=1492333 <- undo?
00:51.35g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Monaco.css dunno where tho
00:52.26g0urrayup winkiller, needs to go
00:52.40LordTBTwell "where" is my question, heh
00:54.03Jimdinventorhey, cool - darktable is in there :-)
00:54.29JimdinventorI've been thinking of creating the "alt" striping in this style sheet
00:54.37Jimdinventorso it sorts properly :-p
00:58.30g0urrahttp://www.pandahideout.com/ hiatus for over 3 months now...
00:58.52g0urraSomeone should check that list and remove those that are down
00:59.43JimdinventorI'm sorry -- which list?
01:00.30Jimdinventor(ouch, that panda has its paw clamped down on 3-4 spikes)
01:00.44Jimdinventor(per paw)
01:01.33g0urralmao
01:01.45g0urraJimdinventor: http://www.wowwiki.com/Fansites
01:02.30JimdinventorAh!  It would be my pleasure.
01:02.38Jimdinventor... if someone doesn't beat me to it.
01:03.09g0urraGo ahead, I'll be hitting the sack now
01:03.13g0urrag'night
01:03.17Jimdinventor*nod*.  Sleep well.
01:03.22winkillerbye
01:43.09Kirkburn|afkBagginsww, really really avoid stream of conciousness writing on talk pages. If that person is editing, it can get very annoying :P
01:43.54Kirkburn|afkI'm off to bed
01:44.02Kirkburn|afkHave a great evening/weekend all
01:44.05Bagginswwlol sorry
01:44.18RagestormNight, boss.
01:44.25Kirkburn|afkNo worries :)
01:44.48Bagginswwgnight
01:44.54Kirkburn|afkMethinks Goblet of Fire, tonight
01:55.18pcjhmm
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04:22.32Sky2042!jobqueue
04:22.44Sky2042notes that dootoff is not present.
04:41.41pcjuh dotoff is indeed present
04:49.04kd3whee, down to a reasonable 1500
04:51.05pcjwhat was edited
04:51.59kd3abilitytip? looks like that's it recently
04:52.09pcjweak
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07:59.05g0urragood morning
07:59.44Bagginswwgmorning
08:00.45Kalrothmoin!
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08:02.16g0urraYou know you're a wowwiki addict when you misspell temple as template
08:05.08Kalroth"Lets go to India and visit the budda templates!"
08:07.20Bagginswwhah hah
08:11.50Fisker-did address bar coloring and certificate warnings only come in Firefox 3? :o
08:14.01Lukianyeah Fisker-
08:16.30Fisker-lol
08:16.39Fisker-And someone praised Firefox for that
08:16.46Fisker-which IE and Opera has had for ?? years now
08:20.08Lukianopera had it at least 6mths before yeah
08:20.16Lukiandunno how long IE has had it
08:20.27Fisker-lol
08:20.46Fisker-Funny that there are 2 untrusted Microsoft certificates
08:20.52Fisker-thought you couldn't just scam it :o
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12:31.16g0urra!jobqueue
12:31.30g0urraThe WoWWiki job queue length is currently 957
12:32.12Teomyr!accmanagement
12:32.15TeomyrThe WoW-Europe Account Management is currently laggy as hell.
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12:38.18winkillerlol
12:51.07Charitwowinkiller: ?
12:51.35winkilleryou joined too late nvm
12:54.45Fisker-oh hai Teomyr
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13:20.47leachim_hey
13:21.02leachim_are there any private servers that DON'T Require burning crusade ?
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13:22.14leachim_nevermind ... I think I got one
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13:31.01leachim_what was that for ?
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13:32.30leachim_why are you doing that ?
13:32.36leachim_Ohh sorry
13:32.48leachim_I read it wrong .. I thought it said "No private discussion in this channel"
13:33.01foxlitThe first one did, I dropped a word.
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13:33.13leachim_ok...that's not cool here ... is there a place I CAN go to talk about it
13:33.26foxlitif there was, we wouldn't tell you about it :)
13:33.32leachim_why not ?
13:33.35leachim_I bought the damn game
13:33.38leachim_I can do whatever I want with it
13:33.50leachim_but that's neither here nor there...
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13:36.58leachim_well...I don't agree with you ... but if those are the rules
13:37.04leachim_what's changed in WoW in the last year ?
13:37.08leachim_I haven't played in forever ...
13:37.15leachim_I heard they finally added voice chat into the game
13:37.26Osehttp://www.wowbash.com/image-3102.html
13:38.03leachim_has the wow UI changed much in the past year
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14:04.53Osegrr...'
14:05.01Osebizart i hates yoo!!
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14:40.52winkiller375 BS, 375 Engi, now epic flying machine control. I think I spent more money on my warrior than on 2 other 70s
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14:52.52Charitwomorning Kirkburn
14:53.07KirkburnMorning
14:54.40Fisker-it's afternooon
14:54.45Fisker-score 1-0 for ut
14:54.47Fisker-uft*
15:08.43KirkburnBtw, death knight talent tree can go live on the wiki - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2511
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15:43.11Fisker-duh Kirkburn why should it not?
15:43.26KirkburnBecause it wasn't public?
15:43.52Fisker-That information isn't any more public than it already was at WWI
15:44.14KirkburnYes, it is
15:44.26KirkburnPeople in the alpha cannot release information about it
15:44.37KirkburnThis is not from datamining, nor from people in the alpha
15:45.00Fisker-Actually that is irrelevant
15:45.11KirkburnWhy?
15:45.14Fisker-Any people in the alpha should be allowed to post about it
15:45.35KirkburnI'm not going to dignify that witha  response
15:45.55Fisker-Hate being wrong?
15:45.59OseDotted: R phail
15:46.13KirkburnFisker-, no? I just understand the law.
15:46.21Fisker-NDA isn't law
15:46.31Fisker-it's a contractual agreement between 2 people
15:46.51KirkburnAnd exactly why should they be able to break that?
15:46.59Fisker-They're not
15:47.15Fisker-The NDA only covers unreleased content
15:47.16KirkburnThis is a ridiculous conversation, sorry, not taking the bait.
15:47.24Fisker-Not released content
15:47.52Fisker-It's not bait, i just hope you haven't been running around removing stuff which is perfectly allowed to be posted
15:48.56KirkburnTo be perfectly honest, I have no idea what in hell you're talking about.
15:49.14KirkburnWe do not and cannot post information that is datamined or leaked.
15:49.43Oseso Kirkburn...
15:49.45Fisker-The death knight tree isn't leaked when it is accessible at the WWI
15:49.57OseI was looking for that WWI photo on facebook
15:49.59KirkburnFisker-, I know! That is why we can now carry it!
15:50.14Fisker-And by now i mean then
15:50.30Fisker-Cause it was alright the moment a person took a seat at a computer containing WotLK
15:50.30CharitwoKirkburn: really? Square-Enix doesn't mind when people make new articles based on new things that show up in DAT files
15:50.32KirkburnHowever, we have to cite where we get information, we can't just claim "it was accessible at WWI" for everything
15:50.37Oseand I couldn't help noticing this other photo... of you... dressed up... as an indian...
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15:50.47KirkburnCharitwo, yeah, Blizz mind
15:50.58Fisker-When information is publically available the NDA doesn't cover anymore
15:51.25Oseand I kinda have to ask: Kirkburn, what was the occasion?
15:52.05KirkburnFisker-, I'm not disagreeing with you, but the wiki is based on citations - and we can't claim "someone saw it at WWI" for everything currently in the alpha. For one, it would be dishonest, and secondly, we actually want a good relationship with Blizz
15:52.18KirkburnOse, hah, long time ago :P
15:52.34Fisker-Well that's somewhat beyond the scope of the intended discussion :P
15:52.54Fisker-Just saying that it was technically allowed to post it when WWI started
15:53.05OseWimbledon Men's final over now?
15:53.12Fisker-But yeah you're right that the alpha testers might have some issues going "We saw at WWI" over it :P
15:53.17Kirkburn:)
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16:05.42Kirkburn|afkHow to hell did Diablo II know I was playing music, and know to turn off the ingame music?
16:05.47Kirkburn|afks/to/the/
16:06.29amromaybe it tries to grab exclusive access
16:07.46Fisker-omg
16:07.48Fisker-spyware
16:08.16Fisker-doesn't do it here though
16:08.27Fisker-i'm using winamp though
16:09.37Dottedand why would that be Ose?
16:26.10DottedFisker- Kirkburn|afk amro Ose test the wiki link please
16:27.28amrohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=stuff
16:27.32amrocrap
16:27.38amrowas done locally
16:28.01Dottedwrite [[wutwut]] amro
16:28.14amroyeah lemme disable the local re sub
16:28.40amro[[stuff]]
16:28.49Dottedcrap
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16:41.32Ose[[foo]]
16:41.36Ose{{foo}}
16:45.58Osehttp://www.azerothiansupervillains.com/episodes/asv6.html :D
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16:47.06Kirkburn|afkNotepad++ v5 is out btw
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16:54.18DottedKirkburn|afk
16:54.49Dottedor who ever
16:57.49Dottedsomeone test the wikilinker
16:58.33Dotted~say bla
16:58.33infobotbla
16:58.39Dotted~say [[mcp]]
16:58.40infobot[[mcp]]
16:58.59amromore like
16:59.00amro[[fail]]
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17:02.40Dotted~say [[mcp]]
17:02.41infobot[[mcp]]
17:02.41Dottedinfobot meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/mcp
17:04.35Kirkburn|afkThis is a [[foo]]bar and a [[foo2]] bar and maybe a f[[oo3]]bar.
17:04.36DottedKirkburn|afk meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/foo, http://www.wowwiki.com/foo2, http://www.wowwiki.com/oo3
17:04.45Kirkburn|afkLooking good
17:05.03Dottedoh but i didnt make any changes for this channel :P
17:05.14Kirkburn|afkBah
17:05.44Dottedjust need it to ignore parser extension now i guess
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17:41.31Kirkburn|afkAnyone understand this sentence: "Surfing the web unprotected will leave the average web user with 70 spam messages each day"
17:41.51Kirkburn|afkFirst half talks about surfing the net, second half about emails. I fail to see a real connection.
17:43.36Osebcuz hotmalez dot com r on tah interwebz duh
17:44.00Kirkburn|afkI can only imagine "unprotected" means, "unprotected from user stupidity of entering their email address wherever they damn well please"
17:44.17Kaso|surfing the web unprotected leads to viruses that scrape your infomation, which leads to an increase in spam perhaps?
17:44.41Kirkburn|afkOriginal news story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7482991.stm
17:45.32Kirkburn|afkKaso|, yeah, I think that might be what they mean - but it seems whoever wrote the article is not familiar which how it works, or that they were passed inflammatory information
17:47.49Fisker-i'm thinking botnets
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17:57.39Kirkburn|afkDid you know Pringles are not legally potato crisps in the UK now? :P
17:57.49Kirkburn|afkThey're now tax free :)
17:59.58RagestormFor some reason, that comes as little suprise.
18:04.27Kaso|Pringles are mostly corn/maze anyway?
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18:07.42Ose~pringles
18:07.48Oseaww
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18:44.58Dotted~say [[did]] i break [[the]] [[wiki]]linker?
18:44.58infobot[[did]] i break [[the]] [[wiki]]linker
18:44.59Dottedinfobot meant: www.wowwiki.com/did, www.wowwiki.com/the, www.wowwiki.com/wiki
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19:38.03Adys[[Dotted]], that reminds me how much infobot [[sucks]] at grammar
19:38.03DottedAdys meant: www.wowwiki.com/Dotted, www.wowwiki.com/sucks
19:38.38Dottedk
19:51.07Kirkburn|afk[[So]], are you going to [[do]] your own, Adys? I'd like to see what [[you]] could do :)
19:51.08DottedKirkburn|afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/So, www.wowwiki.com/do, www.wowwiki.com/you
19:52.00Charitwo[[Bot]][[abuse]][[today]]
19:52.00DottedCharitwo meant: www.wowwiki.com/Bot, www.wowwiki.com/abuse, www.wowwiki.com/today
19:52.13AdysDon't [[shut]] doors in front of [[the]] whole [[fuck]]ing channel, kirkburn. That wouldn't [[up]] its popularity
19:52.14DottedAdys meant: www.wowwiki.com/shut, www.wowwiki.com/the, www.wowwiki.com/fuck, www.wowwiki.com/up
19:52.25kd3{{loot|legendary|Ashbringer}}
19:52.26Dottedkd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:loot|legendary|Ashbringer
19:52.46Kirkburn|afkAdys, :D
19:52.53Adys<3
19:53.28Adys[[I'm growing bored of having to do this. As of now I'll be talking like that just so Dotted always agrees with me]]
19:53.29DottedAdys meant: www.wowwiki.com/I'm_growing_bored_of_having_to_do_this._As_of_now_I'll_be_talking_like_that_just_so_Dotted_always_agrees_with_me
19:54.44Dottedkd3 you arent like pcj expecting me to parse the templates on the wiki to provite the right result :/?
19:55.45Adysof course
19:57.20Adys[[][][]]][][]][[[][][][]]]
19:57.20DottedAdys meant: www.wowwiki.com/][][, www.wowwiki.com/[][][][
19:57.24Kirkburn|afkWhat would the "right" result be for that anyway :P
19:57.27Adysthought so.
19:57.39kd3no
20:00.14Charitwo[[w:c:wowwiki:Portal:Main]]
20:00.14DottedCharitwo meant: www.wowwiki.com/w:c:wowwiki:Portal:Main
20:00.30Kasolots of :
20:00.42Charitwo[[w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki]]
20:00.43DottedCharitwo meant: www.wowwiki.com/w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki
20:00.55Adys[[wp:List of problems solved by MacGyver]]
20:00.56DottedAdys meant: www.wowwiki.com/wp:List_of_problems_solved_by_MacGyver
20:01.11CharitwoInfinite loop!
20:01.22kd3lol, was gonna ask if that looped the browser
20:01.35Kasow:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki
20:01.43Kasowoops forgot []
20:02.07Kasoaww too many chars
20:02.17Adyswhat a failure.
20:02.43KasoRedirect Loop
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20:02.50CharitwoO_O
20:02.51KasoRedirection limit for this URL exceeded.  Unable to load the requested page.  This may be caused by cookies that are blocked.
20:02.55Kasowoops
20:02.56Kasoforgive my spam :<
20:03.18Adyswe are #wowwiki, we do not forgive
20:04.29Fisker-[w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki]
20:04.32Fisker-how do i?
20:04.36Fisker-doh
20:04.40Fisker-[[w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki]]
20:04.40DottedFisker- meant: www.wowwiki.com/w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki:w:c:wowwiki
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20:38.59RagestormDid you not understand?
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20:48.38Ackis~seen coobra
20:48.39infobotcoobra <i=coobra@adsl-70-224-76-201.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 383d 23h 21m 42s ago, saying: 'bbl'.
20:50.20CharitwoO_O
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20:57.07amrothat has to be the longest 'later' ever
20:57.42Bagginswwhello kirkburn you around?
20:58.50Ackiswas trying to see if that was the coobra from wowwiki, which I don't think it is heh
20:58.59Fisker-he's playing TF2
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21:44.24Dottedsomeone bitchslap Wrox Press
21:45.06Dottedthinking they can sell me an ebook version of their book for twice the amount of money the paperback version costs
21:45.29Dottedand companies wonder why people pirate >_>
21:45.32Dottedidiots
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22:00.25MoonRuptHello. I dont know, but the info at http://www.wowwiki.com/Death_knight_talents could be clarified to match the other's talents pages (such as my last edit)... On the other hand, they were released as currently presented. So I would like to ask you all, may i try edit it or should i leave as is?
22:04.57KasoI think the example in the last edit itself is how the data was formatted when "leaked"
22:05.12Kasobut i dont know if it is right not
22:08.56MoonRuptI dont know if its right or not too, but it looks far from the "standards" seen in other talents for me (yet perfectly comprehensible)
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23:06.32foxlitI wonder who thought it was a bright idea to let .torrent files disable functionality for torrent clients :/
23:07.50Adys?
23:08.38foxlitpeer exchange and private torrents
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23:32.55Bagginswwwant to buy a conversation with kirkburn :p
23:33.01KirkburnI'm here
23:33.08KirkburnJust finished a bout of TF2 :P
23:33.18KirkburnWhich, apparently, causes me to disconnect
23:40.12Charitwowhen i'm playing online, i don't disconnect off IRC, it just totally lags everything
23:43.50KirkburnThat's better than my thing :P
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23:59.57Charitwohas anyone seen this? http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/blizzard-authenticar-passcode-token-adds-anti-theft-enchantment/

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