| 00:01.35 | Bagginsww | night |
| 00:05.26 | pcj | ugh these ads are god awful, glad i don't look at them |
| 00:27.51 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Black_Tooth_Grin_Clan |
| 00:27.58 | Bagginsww | pretty sure that's wrong |
| 00:28.14 | Bagginsww | rend and maim being the assasins of Durotan |
| 00:28.25 | Bagginsww | considering that in the novel assassins were killed |
| 00:28.37 | Bagginsww | well most of them as I recall |
| 00:31.15 | Ragestorm | Wasn't Blackhand dead by that time? |
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| 00:32.46 | Bagginsww | yes |
| 00:33.04 | Bagginsww | pretty sure |
| 00:33.10 | Bagginsww | although that was a flashback |
| 00:33.18 | Bagginsww | in the novel |
| 00:33.27 | Bagginsww | he was dead by the time Thrall grew up :p |
| 00:35.49 | Ragestorm | 9.9 |
| 00:36.29 | Bagginsww | I don't have the novel at my fingertips so I cant check fo ryou |
| 00:36.36 | Ragestorm | Hang on... |
| 00:36.50 | Bagginsww | all I know is the rend and maim assassination plot was part of the Warcraft Adventures |
| 00:37.07 | Bagginsww | like anything else the plot was probably dropped |
| 00:37.42 | Bagginsww | you can see bits of the assasination in the Warcraft Adventures trailer. |
| 00:39.16 | Ragestorm | The assassination passage makes no mention of identity. |
| 00:39.31 | Ragestorm | Not eve a reference to a knocked out tooth. |
| 00:40.37 | Bagginsww | yep |
| 00:40.58 | Bagginsww | Like I said if you went by the novel there is no clue who they are... :p |
| 00:41.03 | Ragestorm | It does look like it might have been during Blackhand's tenure though. |
| 00:41.13 | Ragestorm | And we are going by the novel. |
| 00:41.13 | Bagginsww | k |
| 00:41.15 | Bagginsww | yep |
| 00:41.20 | Bagginsww | that shouldn't even be in the passage |
| 00:41.36 | Bagginsww | the comments could exist at the end of the rend and maim articles |
| 00:41.37 | Bagginsww | as trivia |
| 00:41.46 | Ragestorm | I don't give a damn about lore policy, we are not considering a cancelled game more reliable that the book, |
| 00:41.55 | Bagginsww | LOW I agree |
| 00:41.58 | Bagginsww | *Lol |
| 00:42.12 | Ragestorm | I'm inferring about the Blackhand thing. |
| 00:42.26 | Bagginsww | just a sec |
| 00:42.49 | Ragestorm | Durotan is worried that Orgrim's clan would be exiled which would be a concern if Doomhammer were warchief at that time |
| 00:43.00 | Ragestorm | *wouldn't |
| 00:43.15 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 00:43.53 | Bagginsww | http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0743426908/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link |
| 00:43.57 | pcj | LOL http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Flamered5&rcid=1398464 |
| 00:44.04 | Bagginsww | easy way to look up references to blackhand or doomhammer |
| 00:44.09 | Bagginsww | blackhand isn't mentioend as far as I know |
| 00:44.26 | Bagginsww | you mean "wouldn't" |
| 00:44.29 | Bagginsww | be a concernt |
| 00:44.33 | Bagginsww | concern |
| 00:44.50 | Bagginsww | Orgrim and Doomhammer are the same character |
| 00:44.51 | pcj | can i get an admin's assistance or some backup please lol |
| 00:46.19 | Ragestorm | What now? |
| 00:47.11 | Ragestorm | pcj? |
| 00:47.22 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Flamered5 |
| 00:47.24 | Ragestorm | Bagginsww, yes, that's what I meant. |
| 00:47.29 | pcj | keeps reverting spellsurge to the incorrect usage |
| 00:47.40 | pcj | i tried talking to him |
| 00:47.41 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Flamered5 |
| 00:47.52 | Bagginsww | you warned him already? |
| 00:48.00 | Bagginsww | then put him up on violation :p |
| 00:48.13 | Bagginsww | as a suspect |
| 00:48.36 | Ragestorm | We need to change that terminology. |
| 00:48.53 | Ragestorm | Just because someone is ignoring warnings doesn't make them a vandal suspect. |
| 00:50.01 | Ragestorm | Not my department, so I'll keep out of it. |
| 00:50.03 | Bagginsww | its not a vandal |
| 00:50.08 | Bagginsww | we changed it form vandal |
| 00:50.09 | Bagginsww | to violation |
| 00:50.25 | Bagginsww | it hasn't been vandal in a loooooooooooong time |
| 00:51.04 | Bagginsww | this is because people may violate a policy but may not be vandals :p |
| 00:51.07 | Ragestorm | I know. |
| 00:51.22 | Ragestorm | That's why we need to stop using the word "suspect" |
| 00:51.39 | pcj | how about "Alleged Suspect" ragestorm |
| 00:52.05 | Bagginsww | violator :p |
| 00:52.08 | Ragestorm | Still implies that the page is for vandals only, when it also caters to goths and huns |
| 00:52.15 | Ragestorm | violator's good |
| 00:52.17 | pcj | well what you call it then, Perpetrator? |
| 00:52.20 | pcj | oh fine |
| 00:52.23 | pcj | fine |
| 00:52.39 | Ragestorm | Goth, Hun, Mongol, Viking, something like that works for me, |
| 00:52.46 | Bagginsww | although violator and suspected violator is kinda redundant :p |
| 00:53.03 | Bagginsww | I mean you are either violating something or you aren't |
| 00:53.13 | Ragestorm | Well once they're blocked it says "blocked" |
| 00:53.22 | Bagginsww | true |
| 00:53.24 | Ragestorm | I guess nobody got the reference I made? |
| 00:53.32 | Bagginsww | the trick was at least with suspect you have a middle ground |
| 00:54.04 | Bagginsww | the assumed, the actual, and the blocked :p |
| 00:54.27 | Bagginsww | actual being before blocked |
| 00:54.30 | Ragestorm | <shrug> It isn't that much of an issue, I was just musing |
| 00:54.35 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
| 00:54.41 | Ragestorm | Really? you didn't get the Hun reference? |
| 00:54.49 | Bagginsww | I got it well and good |
| 00:55.01 | Bagginsww | I know about Vandals and visigoths, etc... |
| 00:55.34 | Bagginsww | we might as well mention the picts ;) |
| 00:56.24 | Ragestorm | Change the page to "WoWWiki:Barbarians." Half the time they fit the original definition anyway. |
| 00:56.49 | Bagginsww | "single violation" |
| 00:56.54 | Bagginsww | and then "multiple violation" |
| 00:56.58 | Bagginsww | that would allow for stages |
| 00:57.19 | Bagginsww | ragestorm I like it hah hah. might not be too NPOV, but still heh |
| 00:57.53 | Bagginsww | but ya we could replace "suspect" with single violation |
| 00:58.02 | Ragestorm | Bagginsww, in all the time we've worked together, when have I EVER been NPOV about users or vandals?! |
| 00:58.08 | Bagginsww | hah hah |
| 00:58.55 | Bagginsww | so kesmana was a sock puppet eh... |
| 00:59.26 | Ragestorm | Looks like it. |
| 00:59.28 | Bagginsww | hopes someone makes a check on Rolandius to find out he is or isn't anyone else :p |
| 01:01.12 | Ragestorm | The process is apparently annying enough that we should only do so with with evidence not random check. |
| 01:01.38 | Ragestorm | So unless you think he's Angryogre or something, no. |
| 01:01.48 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Maim_Blackhand |
| 01:01.53 | Ragestorm | His MO isn't like anyone else's I recall |
| 01:01.58 | Bagginsww | someone put the warcraft adventures info in the very wrong spot :p |
| 01:02.55 | Bagginsww | no I can't pinpoint Rolandius to any specific person, he's like an unholy aberration of several... |
| 01:03.25 | Bagginsww | angry ogres, the dark tichondriuses, the zarnks.... etc :p |
| 01:03.36 | Ragestorm | What am I looking at? |
| 01:03.44 | Bagginsww | check the blockquote |
| 01:03.47 | Bagginsww | last line of it |
| 01:04.04 | Bagginsww | that info should really only merit a trivia point. |
| 01:04.35 | Bagginsww | unless some later source decides to incorporate it. |
| 01:04.42 | Ragestorm | Deal with it as you see fit. |
| 01:04.52 | Ragestorm | I'll check later in the book, but I doubt it. |
| 01:05.41 | Bagginsww | no the book they have no names |
| 01:05.41 | Bagginsww | they are just assassins |
| 01:05.41 | Bagginsww | and I think all of them were killed I can't remember if any escaped |
| 01:05.53 | Bagginsww | Tells you how good Durotan was ;) |
| 01:07.28 | Ragestorm | No, they got away, the traitors were killed. |
| 01:16.07 | Bagginsww | he killed some of them though |
| 01:16.11 | Bagginsww | and left one for deead |
| 01:16.18 | Bagginsww | before going out |
| 01:17.25 | Bagginsww | btw that add thing is annoying me... |
| 01:19.23 | pcj | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/06/18/scicanc118.xml |
| 01:19.27 | pcj | yeah ads suck |
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| 01:25.33 | Sky2042_afk | pcj: nice article. could be cool if that ends up working |
| 01:26.44 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Spell_sayings |
| 01:27.50 | Sky2042_afk | Bagginsww: well done speaking for other people. |
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| 01:27.51 | Sky2042_afk | -_- |
| 01:28.01 | Sky2042_afk | i personally like the flavor text |
| 01:28.03 | Ragestorm | Ok, am I missing something? I see no ads on the wiki whatsoever? |
| 01:28.18 | Bagginsww | I see some kind of colorful box offering me some kind of skin |
| 01:28.21 | Bagginsww | for wow |
| 01:28.34 | Sky2042_afk | i see an ad :( |
| 01:28.36 | Bagginsww | and it changes shape on different pages :p |
| 01:28.41 | Bagginsww | and pushes text |
| 01:28.53 | Bagginsww | leaving blank spaces towards the top |
| 01:28.54 | Sky2042_afk | yes, we know Bagginsww. :( |
| 01:29.06 | Bagginsww | that thing should be at the bottom of an article or int he sidebar... |
| 01:29.09 | Ragestorm | I'm aware of what the ads are supposed to do. What I'm saying is that I don't see any, yet people have been complaining all day |
| 01:29.20 | Bagginsww | it seems to be ranodm |
| 01:29.22 | Bagginsww | *random |
| 01:29.27 | Bagginsww | one moment I load a page it doesn't appear |
| 01:29.29 | Bagginsww | another time it does |
| 01:29.39 | pcj | ragestorm what skin are you using |
| 01:29.42 | Bagginsww | sometimes as a ticker bar |
| 01:29.47 | Bagginsww | another time as a large box |
| 01:30.41 | pcj | i find that the wowwiki skin doesnt have ads if that helps baggins |
| 01:30.56 | Bagginsww | I thought I was set to wowwiki skin... |
| 01:31.16 | Bagginsww | well to try to fix it |
| 01:32.15 | Ragestorm | I'm using the WoWWiki one/ |
| 01:32.27 | Ragestorm | Guess that explains it. |
| 01:32.54 | Bagginsww | ok changed to it |
| 01:33.05 | Bagginsww | old skin is better skin ;) |
| 01:33.13 | pcj | lol |
| 01:34.38 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Zorbin_Fandazzle&rcid=1398497 |
| 01:34.39 | Bagginsww | ... |
| 01:35.14 | Ragestorm | I suppose that loosely counts as editorial. He could have been intending to add it. |
| 01:35.41 | Ragestorm | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Troll#Regenerative_ability |
| 01:35.45 | Bagginsww | all we need is an earth lore article... |
| 01:35.51 | Ragestorm | Now that's an ideal editorial comment |
| 01:36.13 | Ragestorm | Unless you want to split up "elemental spirit", don |
| 01:36.17 | Ragestorm | 't bother |
| 01:36.28 | Bagginsww | although the anachronistic references do exist |
| 01:36.38 | Bagginsww | why would I split up elemental spirit? |
| 01:37.02 | Bagginsww | there was a reference to an earth history event during the quests with the sand gnomes IIRC |
| 01:37.18 | Ragestorm | http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cheekbone |
| 01:37.29 | kd3 | rolls his eyes |
| 01:37.30 | Bagginsww | that is incredibly silly |
| 01:37.39 | Ragestorm | This is what happens when you're too thorough. |
| 01:37.47 | Bagginsww | that kindof info could have stayed in Tarkin's article :p |
| 01:37.55 | Ragestorm | http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Riker |
| 01:37.59 | Ragestorm | Or THAT. |
| 01:38.01 | Bagginsww | and that's a fan article |
| 01:38.04 | Bagginsww | in some magazine |
| 01:38.05 | kd3 | they had to spam the article count somehow |
| 01:38.06 | Ragestorm | I can barely process that one. |
| 01:38.13 | Bagginsww | I would have kept it all in one article |
| 01:38.18 | Bagginsww | about that that magazine |
| 01:38.29 | Bagginsww | but what gets me is they call it ambiguoulsy cnaon |
| 01:38.31 | Bagginsww | *canon |
| 01:38.36 | Ragestorm | Oh my god, they have the entire next gen cast |
| 01:38.39 | Bagginsww | it can't even be remotely canon |
| 01:38.52 | Bagginsww | I wouldn't even want to know the copyright hurdles there |
| 01:39.23 | Bagginsww | at least that company doesn't make the TCG |
| 01:39.37 | Bagginsww | or you might have gotten crossovers with warcraft :p |
| 01:40.08 | Ragestorm | Captain Jaina Proudmoore of the A.S.S. Theramore. |
| 01:40.22 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 01:40.27 | kd3 | rofl |
| 01:40.32 | Ragestorm | Admiral Thrall Go'el of the H.W.S. Orgrimmar |
| 01:40.47 | Bagginsww | LIch King of the Empire |
| 01:40.53 | Ragestorm | Alliance StarShip and Horde Warship |
| 01:41.05 | Bagginsww | Dark Lord Ner'zhul |
| 01:41.07 | Ragestorm | Grand Moff Kel'Thuzad |
| 01:41.13 | Bagginsww | hah hah |
| 01:41.32 | Ragestorm | Well, Ner'zhul is referred to as the "Dark Lord of the Dead." |
| 01:41.43 | Ragestorm | Darth'zhul |
| 01:42.01 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 01:42.12 | Bagginsww | which book? |
| 01:42.32 | Ragestorm | Mal'ganis called him that. |
| 01:42.47 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 01:42.57 | Bagginsww | ok let's see what tcgs upper deck makes :p |
| 01:43.24 | Bagginsww | yu gi oh... dc comics legions of superheros |
| 01:43.38 | Bagginsww | pirates of the carribean |
| 01:43.46 | Bagginsww | marvel masterpieces |
| 01:43.57 | Ragestorm | Oh, Warcraft crossover to Yu-Gi-Oh, that works. |
| 01:44.07 | Ragestorm | In fact, anything can cross with Yugioh |
| 01:44.11 | Bagginsww | hellboy :p |
| 01:44.30 | Bagginsww | ok legionboy :p |
| 01:44.39 | Bagginsww | burningboy? |
| 01:44.43 | Bagginsww | netherboy? |
| 01:44.47 | Ragestorm | Surely a crossover with Diablo works better? |
| 01:44.56 | Bagginsww | he's too funny for that :p |
| 01:45.04 | Bagginsww | he's closer to warcraft style humor |
| 01:45.11 | Ragestorm | ah |
| 01:45.26 | Ragestorm | Mind you, the way Knaak's going, it'll be the same |
| 01:45.29 | Bagginsww | he's basically satan's son, who's been trained to fight for good |
| 01:45.45 | Ragestorm | I've seen it. Looking forward to the next one. |
| 01:45.46 | Bagginsww | its a story of redemption really |
| 01:45.50 | Bagginsww | cool |
| 01:46.02 | Bagginsww | knaak has added humor to diablo? |
| 01:46.12 | Ragestorm | Well, a little. |
| 01:46.12 | Bagginsww | or just demons turning good? |
| 01:46.34 | Ragestorm | The humor isn't as dark or as dry as it was. |
| 01:46.37 | Bagginsww | closest diablo came to click humor was with the cows :p |
| 01:47.00 | Ragestorm | Actually. I take that back, the tone isn't really changing, just the lore. |
| 01:47.03 | Bagginsww | hmm maybe diablo III will be less sinister :p |
| 01:47.10 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 01:47.25 | Bagginsww | wait until blizzard opens up a dark portal to Sanctuary :p |
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| 01:48.23 | Ragestorm | Yes, and while the Horde tries to free Sanctuary from he demons, the Alliance must fend of a Zerg invasion! |
| 01:49.00 | Ragestorm | Arthas and Kerrigan enter an unholy Alliance, while Kil'jaeden aims to take over Hell! |
| 01:49.30 | Ragestorm | It'll be the Blizzard version of Crisis on Infitine Earths. |
| 01:49.30 | Bagginsww | oh yes |
| 01:49.38 | Bagginsww | hah hah |
| 01:50.06 | Bagginsww | actually a game like that maybe in the vein of Kingdom Hearts |
| 01:50.09 | Bagginsww | could be kinda cool |
| 01:50.12 | Ragestorm | Yeah. |
| 01:50.20 | Ragestorm | Tauren Marines, space fel orcs |
| 01:50.24 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
| 01:50.33 | Bagginsww | oh ya gotta have blackthorne |
| 01:50.35 | Ragestorm | Protoss armada bombards Hell |
| 01:50.36 | Bagginsww | and that racing game |
| 01:50.40 | Bagginsww | and the lost vikings |
| 01:51.17 | Bagginsww | ok look at rolandius earth article |
| 01:51.17 | Bagginsww | he even twisted the info |
| 01:51.23 | Bagginsww | about eaerly warcraft ii concept... |
| 01:51.30 | Bagginsww | trying to make it out to be an official story... |
| 01:51.46 | Bagginsww | check it out before I edit it... |
| 01:52.13 | Bagginsww | [[earth]] |
| 01:52.14 | Dotted | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/earth |
| 01:52.29 | Ragestorm | Shall you do the honors or shall I? |
| 01:52.45 | Bagginsww | which honor? bannin ghim? |
| 01:53.09 | Ragestorm | I was referring to excising the edits, but the other one is up to you. |
| 01:53.18 | Ragestorm | http://www.wowwiki.com/Eng-land |
| 01:53.49 | Bagginsww | well I'd say just redirecting all "earth refrences to one article :p |
| 01:54.19 | Ragestorm | Remove it. The article is about a frigging addon! |
| 01:54.38 | Bagginsww | well yes, that's the problem |
| 01:54.51 | Bagginsww | earth itself has never been mentioned as far as I know |
| 01:55.01 | Bagginsww | weird refrences to Eng-land |
| 01:55.07 | Bagginsww | doesn't even mean its one earth : |
| 01:55.09 | Ragestorm | It's an in-joke |
| 01:55.12 | Bagginsww | and it was injoke |
| 01:55.16 | Bagginsww | to some movie? |
| 01:55.35 | Ragestorm | Oh for the love of Elune, I'll do it myself. |
| 01:55.46 | Bagginsww | really if we take injokes silly we could list all the references to earth in warcraft III quotes :P |
| 01:56.06 | Bagginsww | so yes I agree with hyou |
| 01:56.54 | Bagginsww | acthually going to take one step further... Earth technically should be redirected to Earth magic |
| 01:57.10 | Bagginsww | and Earth (addon) |
| 01:57.16 | Bagginsww | should be the addon article :p |
| 01:57.51 | Bagginsww | Terra ;) |
| 01:57.55 | Ragestorm | Fine, fine I've deleted it anyway. |
| 01:57.58 | Ragestorm | Gaia |
| 01:58.00 | Bagginsww | good |
| 01:58.01 | Bagginsww | yep |
| 01:58.02 | Ragestorm | Qeb |
| 01:58.05 | Bagginsww | any number of names |
| 01:58.21 | Bagginsww | giant turtle :p |
| 01:58.31 | Bagginsww | although that's technically another name for north america |
| 01:58.50 | Bagginsww | but it was a native american world view. |
| 01:59.16 | Ragestorm | Oh, shut up. |
| 01:59.19 | Bagginsww | reading a book the other day that indians are adopting it to replace usage of :America" |
| 01:59.38 | Bagginsww | cultural anthropology book |
| 01:59.45 | Ragestorm | Most tribal names mean "the human beings" |
| 01:59.52 | Bagginsww | heh |
| 01:59.53 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 01:59.58 | Bagginsww | First Peoples |
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| 02:00.01 | Bagginsww | was the name of the book |
| 02:00.02 | Bagginsww | I think |
| 02:00.09 | Ragestorm | Now, what are we going to do about http://www.wowwiki.com/Eng-land |
| 02:00.16 | Bagginsww | I deleted it |
| 02:00.20 | Ragestorm | Oh, fine. |
| 02:00.51 | Ragestorm | You'll have to watch developments, It's getting late at my end. |
| 02:01.00 | Ragestorm | What time is it over there? |
| 02:01.42 | Bagginsww | 4 |
| 02:02.29 | Ragestorm | you mean 16? |
| 02:03.05 | pcj | over 9000 |
| 02:03.20 | Ragestorm | ?? |
| 02:04.35 | Bagginsww | and yes 16 |
| 02:05.07 | Bagginsww | so now we are on the offensive hah hah |
| 02:05.10 | Ragestorm | What the hell is he doing now? |
| 02:05.55 | Bagginsww | I meant all the stuff we have deloeted or are changing :p |
| 02:06.09 | Bagginsww | oh ya I don't like his definition of "world".... since when are universes a world :p |
| 02:06.26 | Ragestorm | He's deleting "the" from all infobox references to the Burning Legion! |
| 02:06.37 | Bagginsww | gg |
| 02:06.38 | pcj | hey can an admin move Burning Legion to The Burning Legion for me |
| 02:06.40 | pcj | k thx |
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| 02:07.02 | Ragestorm | WHAT? |
| 02:07.07 | Bagginsww | I tried to explain to him its decapitlized only in the middle of a sentence |
| 02:07.21 | Ragestorm | pcj, what are you talking about? |
| 02:07.24 | Bagginsww | I think he twisted my meaning as usually |
| 02:07.25 | pcj | lol |
| 02:07.33 | Bagginsww | *he usually does |
| 02:07.59 | Bagginsww | if I go to argue with him, he then say "blah but you said this " blah blah |
| 02:08.47 | Bagginsww | care to check Day of the Dragon tos ee if "Demon Horde" is supposed to be capitalized? |
| 02:10.07 | Bagginsww | or he'll say that to you ragestorm :p |
| 02:10.21 | Bagginsww | blah blah but Baggins said blah blah |
| 02:10.33 | Ragestorm | Might as well, I was planning to check that anyway. |
| 02:10.49 | Ragestorm | You have a nasty habit of misinterpreting. |
| 02:11.26 | Bagginsww | not a nasty habit |
| 02:11.32 | Bagginsww | most of the time I give direct quotes :p |
| 02:11.48 | Bagginsww | so you could say at least on wowwiki I have a nasty habit of plagiarizing :p |
| 02:12.07 | Bagginsww | but that's because people accuse me of misinterpreting... |
| 02:12.32 | Bagginsww | I used to only paraphrase |
| 02:12.38 | Ragestorm | Baggins, you added six new types of Elemental Spirit |
| 02:13.00 | Bagginsww | and I didn't create articles for them :p |
| 02:13.19 | Ragestorm | The text is referring to the spirits (also called souls) of the things in question, nothing to do with the Elemental Spirits! |
| 02:15.06 | Bagginsww | to be fair the book just says spirits and occasionally elemental spirit and that shamans worship the spirits, its not very specific |
| 02:15.18 | Bagginsww | and I felt it was better in that article than trying to create a new one :p |
| 02:15.27 | Ragestorm | BAGGINSWW!!!!!!!!!!! :x |
| 02:15.47 | Bagginsww | had it said "soul" |
| 02:15.49 | Ragestorm | "demon horde" is descriptive. |
| 02:16.37 | Ragestorm | It is referring to a "horde" that is made of "demons" that happens to be an alternative name! |
| 02:17.00 | Ragestorm | Rather, it's a description, NOT an alternative name. |
| 02:17.37 | Bagginsww | fixed |
| 02:17.39 | Ragestorm | Uncapitalized |
| 02:17.50 | Bagginsww | I thought something was off there |
| 02:17.57 | Ragestorm | There we go. |
| 02:18.18 | Ragestorm | It's redundant now. |
| 02:18.23 | Bagginsww | low |
| 02:18.44 | Ragestorm | "The '''Burning Legion''' is a demon horde of demons, infernals, and corrupted races who seek to destroy any trace of order in the Universe. '' |
| 02:18.59 | Ragestorm | Demon horde of demons. |
| 02:19.23 | Ragestorm | Fine |
| 02:19.23 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
| 02:20.58 | Ragestorm | Rolandius has obviously never hear the phrase "if it's not broken, don't fix it." |
| 02:21.07 | Bagginsww | so the quote was "legends of the demon horde, what some call the "Burning Legion" |
| 02:22.22 | Ragestorm | yes. |
| 02:25.49 | Bagginsww | removed that eyeshore of other planes of existence |
| 02:27.27 | Ragestorm | <bangs head against the wall.> |
| 02:28.01 | Ragestorm | Baggins, can we just get rid of the damned demon horde reference? now it does absolutely nothing. |
| 02:29.37 | Bagginsww | eh your choice |
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| 02:35.09 | Ragestorm | What about http://www.wowwiki.com/Burning_Legion#Command_structure |
| 02:35.17 | Ragestorm | That needs cleanup. |
| 02:35.31 | Bagginsww | he misinterpreted my comment again |
| 02:35.39 | Bagginsww | .... |
| 02:35.43 | Bagginsww | stabs self |
| 02:36.23 | Bagginsww | he also mininterpreted you :p |
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| 02:41.48 | Bagginsww | I guess in some dictionaries world can mean "the universe" |
| 02:41.52 | Bagginsww | but that's so broad |
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| 02:51.37 | Bagginsww | I don't want to tuch that command structure with a ten foot pole |
| 02:51.49 | Bagginsww | I'd recommend just moving it to a spinnout speculation page :p |
| 02:52.00 | Bagginsww | its fugly |
| 02:52.09 | Bagginsww | or deleting it :p |
| 02:54.13 | kd3 | oh wow. they added the stormwind harbor on the ptr |
| 02:54.42 | Bagginsww | hmm? |
| 02:54.49 | Bagginsww | behind stormwind? |
| 02:55.28 | kd3 | ya. it's supposed to be between the park and cath district |
| 02:55.53 | Bagginsww | where the portal is currently? |
| 02:56.12 | Bagginsww | I mean this is good, ti means they are trying to make the world closer to how it isin lore |
| 02:56.38 | Bagginsww | I'm sure there will still be huge scale issues, but this is better |
| 02:56.53 | Bagginsww | it also probably means closer to the alpha map though |
| 02:57.17 | Bagginsww | with that tit of a peninsula sticking out north of stormwind |
| 02:59.00 | Bagginsww | I'd like to see Theramore island get inlarged to ithe scale of WArcraft III |
| 02:59.27 | kd3 | meh, scale issues are just something I've given up on at this point |
| 03:00.09 | Bagginsww | heh |
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| 03:01.29 | nat | hey all |
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| 03:03.44 | Ragestorm | Oh, no, Bagginsww, you didn't... |
| 03:03.48 | Ragestorm | Oh well. |
| 03:05.03 | Bagginsww | well think of it this way... |
| 03:05.18 | Bagginsww | world he was adding every description like "spiritual world" or "physical world' :p |
| 03:05.33 | Bagginsww | the natural world :p |
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| 03:12.30 | Ragestorm | I have no energy left. |
| 03:13.00 | Ragestorm | Bagginsww, Clean the mess tonight, and then I'll clean your cleanup tomorrow |
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| 03:13.17 | Bagginsww | which mess? |
| 03:13.38 | Bagginsww | I don't feel like touching the burning legion article anymore tonight :p |
| 03:13.56 | Ragestorm | Things have quieted down now. |
| 03:14.27 | Ragestorm | Good night. |
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| 04:29.58 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Planes |
| 04:29.59 | Bagginsww | :p |
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| 04:52.07 | Bagginsww | eh I"m still getting ads |
| 04:56.09 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: yes?... |
| 04:56.15 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 04:56.25 | Bagginsww | the banner one just randomly appeared when I loaded a page |
| 04:56.29 | Sky2042 | this is working as intended. |
| 04:56.40 | Bagginsww | why cant the banner be at the bottom? |
| 04:56.47 | Sky2042 | because it doesn't make money there. |
| 04:57.03 | Bagginsww | ok. |
| 04:57.20 | Bagginsww | I won't be clicking on stupid gold farming ads... |
| 04:57.30 | pcj | baggins are you using internet explorer then |
| 04:58.02 | Bagginsww | ok now I got a box ad |
| 04:58.07 | Bagginsww | ya pcj :p |
| 04:58.29 | Bagginsww | box adds are trying to insert htemselves right where our infoboxes go |
| 04:58.35 | pcj | ok try using firefox, it has an extension called adblock plus which hides them |
| 04:58.36 | Bagginsww | and then it pushes the text down |
| 04:58.50 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: yes, this is also working as intended. |
| 04:59.14 | pcj | or you can write some custom JS to hide them |
| 04:59.28 | Bagginsww | eh have it take the top left corner and cover the wowwiki symbol |
| 04:59.35 | Bagginsww | when it randoml appears :p |
| 04:59.39 | Sky2042 | pcj: anyway to get the space back using js? |
| 04:59.53 | Bagginsww | because if you plan to have ads intended to screw up page formatting you are lame |
| 04:59.57 | pcj | just set that ID's style to display:none |
| 05:00.14 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: nope. ads make the most money in the content. |
| 05:00.17 | pcj | you could possibly do it via css except it loads after css |
| 05:01.04 | Bagginsww | I still say your reasoning is lame |
| 05:01.13 | pcj | it's not his reasoning |
| 05:01.21 | Bagginsww | I odn't mind the ads if they wereon't screwing up the formating on the pages |
| 05:01.26 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: it's not mine. |
| 05:01.32 | pcj | where would you put them baggins |
| 05:01.34 | Bagginsww | we have infoboxes on the ride side |
| 05:01.43 | Bagginsww | well if the top is important |
| 05:01.54 | pcj | top right is important |
| 05:01.55 | Bagginsww | put it to to the left just above search function |
| 05:02.04 | Sky2042 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.05 | Bagginsww | people read from left to right :p |
| 05:02.06 | pcj | they tried that |
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| 05:02.16 | pcj | it didn't play well with advertisers apparently |
| 05:02.29 | Bagginsww | actually it was below search engine towards the bottom of sidebar before |
| 05:02.42 | Sky2042 | you can't have it on the left side like that because 1) that makes the sidebar huge and 2) putting a border around the ad also makes less money than in the content |
| 05:03.05 | pcj | interstitials would probably be the best compromise |
| 05:03.10 | Sky2042 | you're thinking of the old style. did you miss the whole passing off to wikia? :/ |
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| 05:03.17 | Sky2042 | interstitials pcj? |
| 05:03.25 | pcj | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstitial_webpage |
| 05:03.25 | Bagginsww | now to check omnipedia to see if this crap is happening |
| 05:03.56 | Bagginsww | 10 hits and not see one ad |
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| 05:04.29 | Sky2042__ | ejaeo qlawefj laeja |
| 05:04.44 | pcj | omfrrf |
| 05:04.47 | Bagginsww | so its something someone added to wowwiki eh? |
| 05:04.50 | Bagginsww | not wikia's fault? |
| 05:04.56 | pcj | it's wikia's fault |
| 05:04.58 | Sky2042__ | "interstitials pcj?" what came next? |
| 05:05.02 | pcj | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstitial_webpage |
| 05:05.41 | Sky2042__ | starts jibbering. |
| 05:05.41 | Sky2042__ | pcj: they talked about that, but they figured we would like that even less |
| 05:05.42 | Sky2042__ | fucking a. |
| 05:05.51 | pcj | it would probably be better than in the content |
| 05:05.59 | pcj | and people using adblock would still get it |
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| 05:06.46 | Sky2042 | true. |
| 05:06.51 | Sky2042 | but i'm not sure adblock is the issue :/ |
| 05:07.06 | pcj | issue for whom |
| 05:07.10 | Sky2042 | advertising can't accept that people don't want to see advertisements. |
| 05:07.22 | Sky2042 | the people who want teh $ |
| 05:07.34 | pcj | wikia just needs to have a bake sale |
| 05:08.18 | Sky2042 | bake? |
| 05:08.35 | pcj | sale |
| 05:08.50 | pcj | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bake_sale |
| 05:08.58 | Sky2042 | was about to do that... |
| 05:09.41 | Sky2042 | I'm not sure Wikia would pull in many people would buy girl scout cookies if they aren't from the girl scouts... |
| 05:09.43 | Sky2042 | ;p |
| 05:10.14 | pcj | * Sky2042__ starts jibbering. |
| 05:10.15 | pcj | what |
| 05:10.57 | pcj | ok |
| 05:12.38 | Bagginsww | we could start moving our infoboxes to the left :p |
| 05:13.25 | pcj | no |
| 05:13.31 | pcj | that would looked fucked up |
| 05:13.33 | pcj | look* |
| 05:14.16 | Bagginsww | like it already does |
| 05:14.21 | Bagginsww | you want me to give a screenshot? |
| 05:14.49 | Bagginsww | or several? |
| 05:14.56 | Bagginsww | the banner one isn't nearly as bad as that box ad |
| 05:15.07 | pcj | i've seen it |
| 05:15.11 | pcj | they're both terrible |
| 05:16.48 | Bagginsww | ya, that's why I hate apologetics like, "its working as intended" :p |
| 05:19.34 | pcj | well it is working as wikia intends |
| 05:19.56 | Bagginsww | which is funny I don't get the problem except on wowwik :p |
| 05:20.12 | Bagginsww | Perhaps I should blame Kirkburn ;) |
| 05:20.17 | pcj | they might not have migrated all their wikis to the new skin yet |
| 05:20.25 | Bagginsww | maybe |
| 05:21.53 | Bagginsww | oh yay the mysterious don carlos has appeared :p |
| 05:22.22 | Bagginsww | now all we need is all the other dons |
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| 05:47.10 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Language/Spanish am I missing any? |
| 05:47.19 | Sky2042 | welll that's bad... |
| 05:47.43 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: should be at [[Spanish]] or possibly [[Spanish language]] |
| 05:47.50 | Bagginsww | that would work |
| 05:47.57 | Bagginsww | I jus tdidn't want it to be amain page |
| 05:48.56 | Bagginsww | because it doesn't have an official warcraft name |
| 05:49.03 | Bagginsww | Spain does not exist :p |
| 05:49.30 | Bagginsww | and I'm not going to call it Hispaniola :p |
| 05:55.04 | Sky2042 | wow, look at all that space with using wowwiki... |
| 05:55.12 | Sky2042 | so much bigger. |
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| 06:01.08 | Sky2042 | lol, Kirkburn, you actually here? |
| 06:01.29 | Bagginsw | he should drop burritos and tacos |
| 06:01.46 | Bagginsw | make him even more of a stereotype :p |
| 06:02.00 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 06:02.06 | Sky2042 | he does look a bit mexican. |
| 06:02.45 | Bagginsw | especially his old version |
| 06:02.55 | Bagginsw | and his dog's name... |
| 06:04.00 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Nice_Hat... |
| 06:04.57 | Bagginsw | Haliscan |
| 06:05.11 | Bagginsw | is that a word? |
| 06:05.19 | Bagginsw | or a name of the place far away? |
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| 06:08.31 | Bagginsw | not any spanish I know |
| 06:08.45 | Sky2042 | don't think so. |
| 06:08.52 | Sky2042 | wonder if wowwiki loading is a bug on other... |
| 06:10.05 | Bagginsw | well I moved it to Haliscan since its the closest to a description |
| 06:10.11 | kd3 | whee... crashed firefox trying to load nice hat... |
| 06:10.46 | Kalroth | stop crashing firefox, kd! |
| 06:10.49 | kd3 | and gah at setting up a local copy of mediawiki so I can test out stuff |
| 06:11.17 | Sky2042 | kd3: why not use tekkubs test wiki?... |
| 06:11.24 | Sky2042 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:11.32 | kd3 | because that'd be too easy |
| 06:11.46 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 06:12.19 | kd3 | soon as I can get imagelink installed, things'll be good... but the only version I can find is the {{#imagelink}} one, not the <imagelink> ver |
| 06:12.46 | Sky2042 | gl finding <imagelink>; I doubt that it even exists on te internet anymore except for our wiki |
| 06:12.48 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 06:13.12 | kd3 | oh, geez. it's a wootoff |
| 06:13.17 | kd3 | 's going to be up all night |
| 06:15.09 | Sky2042 | my god, wowwiki skin loads so much faster than monaco |
| 06:15.20 | Sky2042 | fuckin ads |
| 06:15.39 | Sky2042 | and that javascript menu |
| 06:18.09 | Bagginsw | oh they replaced bats with dragonhawks eh? |
| 06:18.19 | Sky2042 | Bagginsw: ? |
| 06:18.29 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/06/18/patch-2-4-3-patch-notes/ |
| 06:19.12 | kd3 | or you could point to our copy... |
| 06:19.14 | Sky2042 | omg, CoE and CoS... |
| 06:19.17 | Sky2042 | yay |
| 06:19.29 | Bagginsw | I came across it looking ujp haliscan |
| 06:21.25 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Haliscan |
| 06:21.26 | Kalroth | "Mounts at level 30" |
| 06:21.33 | Kalroth | What the fuck, I just hit 40 on my alt |
| 06:21.36 | Kalroth | Goddamn casuals! |
| 06:21.40 | Sky2042 | lol, owned |
| 06:21.41 | kd3 | rofl |
| 06:22.02 | Kalroth | Also I paid bloody 80 gold |
| 06:22.16 | kd3 | looks for the whaaambulance |
| 06:22.23 | Kalroth | ~wedgie kd3 |
| 06:22.24 | infobot | ACTION hangs kd3 from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 06:24.37 | Kalroth | "The Eredar Twins will now award the same items regardless of which order they are killed in." |
| 06:24.38 | Kalroth | Nooo |
| 06:24.48 | Sky2042 | haha' |
| 06:24.54 | Sky2042 | what a nerf./ |
| 06:25.04 | Kalroth | I hate patch notes like that, it doesn't say if it's a fix or a nerf :) |
| 06:25.37 | kd3 | it's a buff. they're dropping more loot by default |
| 06:25.44 | kd3 | go check R&D |
| 06:25.56 | Kalroth | Alright, so they're dropping the same loot on "normal" as on "reverse" |
| 06:26.09 | kd3 | ya |
| 06:26.11 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116579218&pageNo=2&sid=1#20 |
| 06:26.14 | Kalroth | I'm european, will it be in my R&D too?! |
| 06:26.20 | Kalroth | :P |
| 06:26.21 | kd3 | probably not |
| 06:26.28 | Kalroth | Thanks |
| 06:27.37 | Lukian | ["Gigantique" Bag] - 1200 Gold |
| 06:27.39 | Lukian | rofl |
| 06:27.47 | Kalroth | :D |
| 06:27.57 | Kalroth | I'll need to farm money again |
| 06:28.43 | Kalroth | "Corrected an issue in which users with Creative X-FI sound cards would sometimes here a slight popping noise when running." |
| 06:28.48 | Kalroth | So THATs what it was |
| 06:28.58 | Kalroth | Christ, I thought it was my card being broken |
| 06:29.11 | Sky2042 | warns the channel that WoWWiki might break during the next 20 minutes. |
| 06:29.35 | Kalroth | reports Sky to Kirkburn! |
| 06:30.12 | Sky2042 | isn't doing it. |
| 06:31.02 | Lukian | hey Kalroth |
| 06:31.06 | Lukian | The bag is BoE |
| 06:31.14 | Lukian | feel like putting some up on the AH for cheap? :D |
| 06:32.33 | Kalroth | haha |
| 06:36.45 | Bagginsw | someone want to upload the en fuego sound effect? |
| 06:36.48 | Lukian | much like people buying 800g mounts back in the day and AH'ing them |
| 06:37.59 | Bagginsw | hah hah |
| 06:50.23 | Sky2042 | 186 |
| 06:51.13 | Sky2042 | not a single broken redirect for the moment |
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| 08:24.32 | Lukian | Anywhere I can check the 2.4.3 talent trees online? |
| 08:24.57 | Lukian | I'm curious if Improved Curse of Shadows is now Improved curse of Elements |
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| 08:40.59 | Bagginsw | gg |
| 08:41.07 | Bagginsw | on the warcraft quotes page |
| 08:41.13 | Bagginsw | someone has asterix and obelix |
| 08:41.23 | Bagginsw | under reference for "The Sky is Falling" |
| 08:41.35 | Bagginsw | umm, hasn't anyone ever read Chicken Little :p |
| 08:45.22 | sannse | now either you are as old as I am, or that classic is still going! ;) |
| 08:45.39 | Bagginsw | I'm not 90 :p |
| 08:46.04 | sannse | heh, nor am I... quite... (35) |
| 08:46.08 | Bagginsw | heh heh |
| 08:46.22 | Bagginsw | but ya chicken little is old very old |
| 08:46.31 | Bagginsw | I'm pretty certain it predates Asterix |
| 08:46.47 | sannse | yeah, I'd say so |
| 08:47.45 | Bagginsw | its its several centuries old at least |
| 08:48.19 | Bagginsw | got I hate rampant stupidity when people can't even know the original reference to something, and then reference something more modern that references the previous source :p |
| 08:49.12 | Bagginsw | I mean say for example a dc comic character said something like an eye for an eye |
| 08:49.27 | Bagginsw | and then that quote was to be said as a click joke |
| 08:49.43 | Bagginsw | and then someone comes back and says its a rference to a marvel character :p |
| 08:49.47 | Bagginsw | erm dc |
| 08:50.01 | Bagginsw | and yet you can trace that saying back to Hammarabi |
| 08:50.11 | Bagginsw | its just pure ignorance :p |
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| 08:52.18 | sannse | heh |
| 08:54.16 | sannse | 6 century BC - from the Jataka Tales, Indian folklore ... yeah, I'd say it's old (although it was a lion and a hare in that version) |
| 08:56.34 | Bagginsw | ahh |
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| 09:23.44 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Zandali#En_Fuego |
| 09:29.37 | g0urra | Morning Kirkburn|afk |
| 09:29.48 | Kirkburn | Morning |
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| 09:32.42 | Bagginsw | and gourra can you add a ogg of En Fuego? |
| 09:33.01 | Bagginsw | and any other terms we may have listed on language pages |
| 09:33.41 | g0urra | nope, I have no idea how to extract sound files |
| 09:34.13 | Bagginsw | you just go into the world editor |
| 09:34.17 | Bagginsw | as I recall |
| 09:34.28 | Bagginsw | and then you can search through them, and save the ones you want :p |
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| 09:35.04 | Bagginsw | although I don't expect you to do it, unless you have some free time and feel like doing it |
| 09:35.13 | Bagginsw | since it could be potentially time consuming |
| 09:35.18 | Bagginsw | unless the files have names |
| 09:35.37 | g0urra | "Silly Spanish Troll Speech 01.ogg" |
| 09:36.07 | Bagginsw | hah hah |
| 09:36.19 | Bagginsw | nah just call it en feugo |
| 09:36.49 | Bagginsw | and if you go about calling it silly you might as well call the star wars comments silly |
| 09:37.04 | Bagginsw | that other troll units say |
| 09:37.30 | Bagginsw | the others represent click jokes I believe |
| 09:37.36 | g0urra | "En fuego, baby!" |
| 09:37.39 | g0urra | That's what they say. |
| 09:37.40 | Bagginsw | en feugo was at least an acknowledgement sound |
| 09:37.42 | Bagginsw | yep |
| 09:37.47 | Bagginsw | that's the full phrase |
| 09:38.27 | Bagginsw | en fuego was acknolwedgement after you commanded them to burn something |
| 09:38.27 | g0urra | Can only save in wav |
| 09:38.38 | Bagginsw | ok save in wave I can do the conversion |
| 09:39.49 | Bagginsw | oh kirkburn you missed a don |
| 09:39.51 | Bagginsw | Don Pompas |
| 09:41.07 | g0urra | Don Pompa* |
| 09:41.29 | Bagginsw | ya |
| 09:41.51 | Bagginsw | gourra the forest trolls click routine are all star wars sayings pretty much huttese |
| 09:41.53 | Bagginsw | tazdingo |
| 09:41.58 | Bagginsw | o'hoba |
| 09:42.16 | Bagginsw | mind you the spelling might be off |
| 09:42.45 | Bagginsw | Taeiwanniwanga |
| 09:42.45 | Bagginsw | e'chuta |
| 09:42.45 | Bagginsw | O'hoba |
| 09:42.45 | Bagginsw | Jabonobatobatu |
| 09:42.45 | Bagginsw | Tuvak'tulas |
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| 09:52.10 | Bagginsw | Afete Dwain'tor? |
| 09:52.14 | Bagginsw | from beastmaster |
| 09:52.23 | Bagginsw | orcish, or common :p |
| 09:52.38 | Bagginsw | and does it refer to anything? |
| 10:19.14 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_WWI08 |
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| 10:29.17 | Kirkburn | Who wants to know how many pageviews we get a month? :P |
| 10:30.04 | Kalroth | more than 30?! |
| 10:31.28 | foxlit | surely over 9000 |
| 10:32.34 | Kalroth | OVER NINE THOUSAND? UNPOSSIBLE! |
| 10:32.37 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 10:32.54 | Kirkburn | multiply that by over 9000. |
| 10:33.18 | foxlit | <100m? Puny mortal. |
| 10:33.34 | Kirkburn | Hey, we've got WotLK to get us there :P |
| 10:34.01 | Kirkburn | I wonder how long ago it was we hit the billion pageview mark |
| 10:34.14 | Kirkburn | Possible before 2008 |
| 10:34.15 | Kalroth | Over 9000 minutes ago! |
| 10:35.55 | g0urra | Kirkburn, you mean 2009 |
| 10:36.02 | Kirkburn | No |
| 10:36.15 | g0urra | K |
| 10:36.17 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 10:36.22 | Kirkburn | Pretty sure we hit it last year :) |
| 10:42.48 | Kalroth | Is it because of the hidden porn site I got? |
| 10:44.43 | Kirkburn | uh |
| 10:44.46 | Kirkburn | sure |
| 10:45.06 | Kirkburn | We have some adult story material hidden away on the wiki, I'm pretty sure |
| 10:45.55 | Dotted | nice |
| 10:47.05 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, did you see http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Receipt.jpg ? |
| 10:47.08 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:AzsharaSL.jpg porn! |
| 10:47.21 | Kirkburn | bewbs! |
| 10:47.25 | Bagginsw | hah hah |
| 10:47.36 | Kalroth | woot! |
| 10:47.42 | Kirkburn | g0urra, I think the fact you could come up with that so quickly says something ... |
| 10:47.43 | Kalroth | That's close enough, g0urra! |
| 10:47.52 | Kalroth | I was about to say, hand over the other porn bookmarks! |
| 10:48.00 | g0urra | Loooool |
| 10:48.05 | Bagginsw | remember the warcraft red dragon picture ;) |
| 10:48.24 | g0urra | *looks for the WC2 manual* |
| 10:48.33 | Kirkburn | wonders whether to link the our "spoilers" disclaimer to that image :P |
| 10:48.37 | Bagginsw | and there is also a siren picture with boobles |
| 10:48.43 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Dragonwc2.gif there |
| 10:48.55 | Kalroth | haha |
| 10:49.36 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Naga_Siren.jpg |
| 10:49.51 | Bagginsw | you can see nipples in the black and white version of the artwork in Dark Factions |
| 10:50.05 | g0urra | Kirkburn, "porn on the wiki" reminded me of those images of the barov girls, and someone mentioned the azshara picture there |
| 10:50.09 | Bagginsw | they are in that color but seem to be a bit harder to make out |
| 10:50.14 | g0urra | The only bookmarks are in my head Kalroth ;) |
| 10:50.19 | Dotted | basicly its just like ecchi anime |
| 10:50.33 | Kirkburn | g0urra, what happened to those images anyway? |
| 10:50.39 | g0urra | They got deleted |
| 10:50.43 | Kirkburn | gah :/ |
| 10:50.46 | Kalroth | He's storing them locally |
| 10:51.14 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Emeralddreamcreatures.JPG |
| 10:51.18 | g0urra | http://azazel1944.deviantart.com/art/Lady-Illucia-Barov-61482482 |
| 10:51.23 | g0urra | http://azazel1944.deviantart.com/art/Jandice-Barov-61482615 |
| 10:51.26 | g0urra | http://azazel1944.deviantart.com/art/Instructor-Malicia-61483114 |
| 10:51.29 | Kirkburn | I think I expressed my lack of problem with them, but the whole thing was a bit confusing |
| 10:51.29 | g0urra | Happy Kirkburn? |
| 10:51.34 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 10:51.44 | Kalroth | there we go, almost proper boobies! |
| 10:51.50 | Kirkburn | bloody prudes :P |
| 10:51.59 | Bagginsw | got voted off the official site? |
| 10:52.25 | Bagginsw | they are quite well done for fan art |
| 10:52.31 | foxlit | Nah |
| 10:52.37 | foxlit | Someone just deleted them before the votes concluded |
| 10:52.44 | g0urra | http://azazel1944.deviantart.com/art/Scholomance-special-edition-77818785 moar bewbs |
| 10:53.59 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=Image_talk%3AJandice_Barov.jpg×tamp=20080401100331 |
| 10:54.08 | foxlit | That's 5 deletes to 4 keeps |
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| 10:56.28 | Kirkburn | g0urra, well, at least that made me go look up my dA account |
| 10:56.37 | g0urra | loooool |
| 10:58.19 | Kirkburn | He's into StarCraft too, http://blog.photo.sina.com.cn/showpic.html#url=http://static13.photo.sina.com.cn/orignal/4a6b260144c56caa8d50c |
| 10:58.34 | Kirkburn | ^ terran marine |
| 10:59.37 | Kirkburn | If someone wants to reupload the images and link them back on the articles, fine by me - but I'd recommend putting then in a gallery section a the bottom |
| 11:00.45 | g0urra | Kirkburn: let me upload some draenei porn too k |
| 11:00.57 | Kirkburn | No comment. |
| 11:01.14 | foxlit | Calling it porn is like calling 1st grade math mathematics :) |
| 11:01.29 | foxlit | "ooh, look, numbers!" |
| 11:01.35 | foxlit | "ooh, look, boobies!" |
| 11:01.39 | g0urra | foxlit: did I call what was linked "porn"? |
| 11:01.41 | g0urra | No. |
| 11:02.23 | foxlit | Were there any boobies in what was linked? :) |
| 11:02.36 | Bagginsw | lol |
| 11:03.11 | g0urra | Did I mention any boobies? |
| 11:03.24 | foxlit | I did, don't change the subject! |
| 11:03.36 | g0urra | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116580116&sid=1 lulz |
| 11:03.48 | g0urra | "This website seems to have a lot of WotLK info. Seems legit, [...]" |
| 11:03.56 | g0urra | Idiots, ahoy. |
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| 11:05.35 | Kirkburn | I wanted to do a private wiki, but that didn't go anywhere - it'll be useful to have such sources once the beta is out |
| 11:05.35 | foxlit | "Hurricane (Rank 5) - 2885 mana, no cooldown." |
| 11:05.55 | foxlit | wouldn't work ) |
| 11:06.14 | Kirkburn | How do you mean? |
| 11:06.20 | foxlit | If you're leaking expansion information, you probably want to leak it to the widest possible audience |
| 11:06.38 | foxlit | Thus, leaking it to private wikis defeats the purpose, really :) |
| 11:07.04 | Kirkburn | No, I meant for alpha testers to collate info |
| 11:07.17 | Kalroth | he means a closed wiki |
| 11:07.18 | foxlit | Much the same problem |
| 11:07.28 | Kalroth | No it isn't |
| 11:07.38 | Kalroth | a closed wiki where you control who got access etc. |
| 11:07.43 | foxlit | Assumiing you're not leaking, why would you want to contribute to something that's potentially one big leak anyway? |
| 11:07.50 | Kirkburn | We ran one for Tabula Rasa iirc |
| 11:08.26 | Kalroth | foxlit: By that logic all sites with user accounts are potential leaks |
| 11:08.41 | foxlit | Only if they encourage you to post information breaking the NDA |
| 11:08.44 | Kirkburn | Worked closely with the developer, only those in the beta could see/access it |
| 11:09.35 | Kalroth | I usually traded boobie pictures for alpha info in Asheron's Call |
| 11:11.05 | Kirkburn | Whose boobies? |
| 11:11.09 | g0urra | Your mom |
| 11:11.20 | Kirkburn | Classy |
| 11:11.54 | foxlit | That's what she said! |
| 11:12.22 | Kirkburn | In my pants. |
| 11:12.22 | g0urra | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116600033&sid=1#6 ehehe |
| 11:12.34 | g0urra | Did your mom say that in your pants? |
| 11:12.44 | Kirkburn | No, your mom did. |
| 11:13.55 | Kalroth | There's totally a Kirkburn mom quote on bash |
| 11:14.04 | Kalroth | http://www.bash.org/?868223 |
| 11:14.39 | Kirkburn | Only one for me - http://www.bash.org/?729963 |
| 11:14.59 | Kalroth | nuh uh! |
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| 11:17.00 | g0urra | http://www.nestoria.co.uk/kirkburn/property/buy |
| 11:17.05 | g0urra | " |
| 11:17.05 | g0urra | Property for sale in Kirkburn |
| 11:17.05 | g0urra | " |
| 11:17.33 | Kalroth | haha |
| 11:17.34 | g0urra | http://www.perfectmatch.com/Dating/Borders/Kirkburn/Kirkburn-Dating-Singles.html noes! |
| 11:17.40 | g0urra | Kirkburn Dating Singles! |
| 11:17.54 | Kalroth | Left Hairy Arsebun, Kirkburn |
| 11:18.25 | Kalroth | "Average House Prices in Kirkburn" |
| 11:18.41 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 11:18.48 | Kirkburn | I'm cheap. |
| 11:19.04 | g0urra | http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/849037 |
| 11:19.09 | g0urra | "Entrance to Kirkburn Farm" |
| 11:19.25 | Kalroth | Farming Kirkburn |
| 11:19.49 | foxlit | then vendoring him for 3s/stack |
| 11:19.55 | Bagginsw | eh the file didn't copy right |
| 11:19.56 | g0urra | http://www.churchatkirkburn.org.uk/page114.html |
| 11:19.59 | Bagginsw | back to fix it ;p |
| 11:20.05 | g0urra | Moar like "Lameass at Kirkburn" amirite |
| 11:20.11 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 11:20.12 | Kalroth | Kirkburn Bread |
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| 11:20.45 | Kirkburn | Apparently I chose a good nickname ten years ago |
| 11:21.15 | g0urra | http://elitistjerks.com/customavatars/avatar1580_1.gif Title: Kalroth's Avatar |
| 11:21.25 | Kalroth | Yes! |
| 11:22.13 | g0urra | 08:02.09KalrothWell Kaso is a chav, so to him it's the same |
| 11:22.53 | Kalroth | haha |
| 11:22.53 | Kalroth | Sweeet |
| 11:22.53 | Kalroth | I got my own blog now |
| 11:22.53 | Kalroth | http://kalroth.covenspace.com/blog/2008/06/06/sadness_does_not_last_forever |
| 11:22.53 | g0urra | wut eve online |
| 11:23.19 | Kalroth | yeah |
| 11:23.22 | Kalroth | I played that for a while |
| 11:23.24 | g0urra | <Kalroth> Can't I get an ugly chick and 25k mega? |
| 11:23.44 | g0urra | <Kalroth> Personally I don't think my mama is that hot, but I guess you guys think otherwise about your own mamas. |
| 11:23.58 | Kalroth | I wonder who I was insulting back then |
| 11:24.13 | g0urra | http://www.google.se/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=41&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.computergames.ro%2F136-eve-online%2F53135-eve-online-second-genesis%2Fpage-13.html&ei=fUFaSJOAOIGIwAHu_LmKDA&usg=AFQjCNFNDZ0DQd5WJuWa2di9LJAfOktsPA&sig2=7lhFSEmmwjZMXPHkXiOXwA |
| 11:24.21 | g0urra | or http://forum.computergames.ro/136-eve-online/53135-eve-online-second-genesis/page-13.html |
| 11:24.49 | g0urra | what the |
| 11:24.57 | g0urra | Kalroth on what server do you play? |
| 11:25.04 | Kalroth | Stormrage EU |
| 11:25.13 | g0urra | Not Earthen Ring? |
| 11:25.15 | g0urra | http://earthenring.wikia.com/wiki/Fateful_Night_(Daenara%27s_Story),A |
| 11:25.30 | Kalroth | I'm not a roleplayer@#?! |
| 11:25.37 | g0urra | "Kalroth took a spot a little further from the fire, and lay back against Fenris, snuggling into the wolfs thick fur." |
| 11:25.46 | Kalroth | hahaha |
| 11:26.08 | Kalroth | That's hot |
| 11:26.12 | g0urra | "Mari Theres Kalroth, född 1983-12-01 i Garsås, Mora" |
| 11:26.40 | Kalroth | Kalroth just sighed and raised up his rifle, not bothering to use both hands, cocked it, and shot the orc as he ran, downing him neatly. "Too slow," he chuckled to himself. |
| 11:26.46 | Kalroth | NOT THE ORC |
| 11:26.49 | Kalroth | YOU BASTARD |
| 11:27.10 | g0urra | LOL |
| 11:27.34 | g0urra | http://uk.youtube.com/Kalroth wut |
| 11:27.43 | Kalroth | Yeah, I saw that |
| 11:27.46 | Kalroth | Not me either |
| 11:27.59 | g0urra | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kmz8bD8Rs4o LOL FAVORITE'D |
| 11:28.05 | Kalroth | I'm http://uk.youtube.com/klrth on Youtube |
| 11:28.57 | g0urra | It's so easy |
| 11:29.00 | g0urra | Happy go lucky |
| 11:29.32 | Kalroth | I would actually favorite that one |
| 11:32.43 | g0urra | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=404qLvKU5u8 looool |
| 11:36.57 | Adys | Kirkburn: ping |
| 11:37.19 | Adys | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/images/portraits/bliz/ is blocked by the spam filter |
| 11:37.21 | Kirkburn | sup |
| 11:37.49 | Kirkburn | how odd |
| 11:38.16 | Adys | wait |
| 11:38.17 | Adys | no |
| 11:38.22 | Adys | its another url in my dev page .. |
| 11:38.54 | Adys | lol |
| 11:38.54 | Adys | The following text is what triggered our spam filter: 71160114950 |
| 11:39.04 | Adys | what the fuck? :P |
| 11:39.16 | Kirkburn | That's ... interesting |
| 11:40.09 | Adys | cant save blizz poster IDs :( |
| 11:40.17 | Kalroth | hi Adysysy |
| 11:40.30 | g0urra | 404 Page Not Found |
| 11:40.46 | Adys | hi Kalrothtotototo |
| 11:41.06 | Kirkburn | 11 numbers seems to block it |
| 11:41.12 | Adys | Lol |
| 11:41.16 | Kalroth | wtf? |
| 11:41.26 | Kirkburn | Adys, give me the regex fragment to unblock, and I'll enquire for wikia-wide |
| 11:41.34 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: That's not very chavy, I'm afraid I'll have to take your burburry away. |
| 11:41.39 | Adys | Id need the full regex for that Kirkburn |
| 11:41.43 | Kirkburn | Dang |
| 11:42.37 | Adys | or at least the part that blocks some of it :P |
| 11:42.42 | Kirkburn | Enquiring |
| 11:42.56 | Adys | oh wait |
| 11:43.06 | Adys | you mean a regex to unblock? |
| 11:43.21 | Kirkburn | yeah |
| 11:43.36 | Kirkburn | If there's something, you can put on here - http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist |
| 11:43.57 | Adys | I dont know, why is it blocking 11 numbers in the first place? |
| 11:44.12 | Kirkburn | Hopefully I'll find out in a sec :P |
| 11:45.15 | Adys | im unblocking 10-33 numbers |
| 11:45.26 | Adys | there are md5s on the patchlist anyway |
| 11:45.34 | Adys | wait, numbers only you said |
| 11:45.47 | Kirkburn | Random number were blocked due to spam, unfortunately |
| 11:45.58 | Adys | k unblocking 10-25 |
| 11:46.20 | Adys | if we get spammed should still be revertable |
| 11:46.42 | winkiller | sick idea :P |
| 11:47.08 | Adys | grr doesnt support smart regexes |
| 11:48.11 | Adys | wtf |
| 11:48.17 | Kirkburn | is still fact finding :) |
| 11:48.43 | Adys | neither [1234567890]+ nor \d{10-25} work |
| 11:48.59 | Adys | first one is the simplest it can get |
| 11:50.29 | winkiller | not really |
| 11:50.46 | winkiller | [0-9]{2} |
| 11:50.57 | Adys | thats more complicated to parse |
| 11:51.04 | Adys | im talking about mw |
| 11:51.13 | winkiller | pff, silly software |
| 11:51.15 | Adys | it doesnt support {} |
| 11:51.19 | winkiller | WTF |
| 11:51.21 | Adys | nor [] it seems |
| 11:51.32 | winkiller | (0|1|... :) |
| 11:51.32 | Kirkburn | It's using a different method |
| 11:51.45 | Kirkburn | Sec |
| 11:51.52 | Adys | winkiller: i doubt it supports () |
| 11:51.57 | winkiller | lol |
| 11:52.01 | winkiller | then it's not a regex ;) |
| 11:52.13 | Adys | it supports backslashes tho |
| 11:52.15 | winkiller | no ([{ :) |
| 11:52.43 | winkiller | \d+? |
| 11:53.03 | Kirkburn | The spam whitelist is just a simple thing |
| 11:53.04 | Adys | seems not |
| 11:53.15 | Kirkburn | This block is via the Wikia wide spamregex |
| 11:53.32 | Kirkburn | We're removing the block, but it may have to return if we get spam again |
| 11:53.45 | Kirkburn | Fingers crossed |
| 11:53.50 | Kalroth | spams Kirkburn. |
| 11:53.58 | Adys | 12368976234675673682379503 |
| 11:54.03 | Adys | HAHAHA YOU CANT BAN ME |
| 11:54.25 | Kalroth | That was some shitty spam, not even mentioning viagra or boobies |
| 11:54.32 | Kirkburn | That wouldn't have been blocked anyway |
| 11:54.46 | Kirkburn | It targeted 11, 21 and 24 character numbers |
| 11:54.55 | Adys | Wtf |
| 11:54.56 | Kirkburn | (assuming I understand regex) |
| 11:55.04 | Kirkburn | Don't ask me, ask the bloody spammers :P |
| 11:55.07 | Adys | can you paste me that bit? |
| 11:55.49 | Kirkburn | PM :) |
| 11:56.23 | Adys | thats newline, 11 numbers, wordbound or wordbound, 21-24 numbers |
| 11:56.47 | Kirkburn | Fun |
| 11:57.43 | Kirkburn | We do block some very interesting phrases |
| 11:58.09 | Adys | i prefer blizzard's ones ! |
| 11:58.29 | Kirkburn | Well, yes, we have no problem with grapes here. |
| 11:59.07 | Adys | we had interesting times when french and english profanity filters were shared |
| 11:59.21 | Adys | "J'vais prendre une tit douche" means "Gonna grab a lil shower" here |
| 11:59.33 | Adys | was really interesting times. |
| 11:59.45 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 11:59.48 | Kirkburn | Time to rock the house with ELO :) |
| 12:00.02 | Adys | (particularly since the profanity filter was in a very obscure place and we all jumped of joy when we found it) |
| 12:03.20 | Adys | Kirkburn: still getting blocked :( |
| 12:06.57 | Kirkburn | Okay, checking up |
| 12:08.39 | Kirkburn | It's supposed to take effect immediately, but there may be a delay still |
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| 12:53.09 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Wikicat.JPG lulz |
| 12:54.28 | Kalroth | aw |
| 13:01.19 | g0urra | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/gOurra/DSC06516-3.jpg bettarz |
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| 13:12.13 | ralf-x_ | wewt, I'm ready to go back to BM and get my kara key |
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| 13:40.03 | pcj | http://wbztv.com/local/gloucester.high.school.2.751873.html |
| 13:40.05 | pcj | good work |
| 13:42.13 | pcj | http://www.nzherald.co.nz/feature/story.cfm?c_id=1501834&objectid=10516992 |
| 13:44.02 | pcj | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4168112.ece |
| 13:44.04 | pcj | "he installed spyware on school hard drives that allowed him to access the computers from remote locations." |
| 13:44.07 | pcj | ...that's not spyware |
| 13:44.29 | pcj | http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080619121714.l4my6v8z&show_article=1 |
| 13:44.29 | pcj | woot |
| 13:44.55 | Kirkburn | "Normally, the school has about four pregnancies per school year.", even that scares me |
| 13:45.22 | Kirkburn | Never in my school life did I know of someone at my school getting pregnant. |
| 13:45.35 | Kirkburn | Not even at University. |
| 13:45.41 | g0urra | Principal Joseph Sullivan said that wasn't all that was shocking. |
| 13:45.41 | g0urra | "We found out one of the fathers is a 24-year-old homeless guy," he told Time. |
| 13:45.45 | g0urra | -.- |
| 13:45.55 | Kirkburn | (within my circle of acquaitances) |
| 13:46.07 | pcj | i wish i was a 24 year old homeless guy |
| 13:46.10 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 13:46.16 | g0urra | A recent graduate who had a baby during her freshman year told Time she knows why the girls wanted to get pregnant. |
| 13:46.16 | g0urra | "They're so excited to finally have someone to love them unconditionally," Amanda Ireland, 18, said. "I try to explain it's hard to feel loved when an infant is screaming to be fed at 3 a.m." |
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| 14:03.11 | [Liquidor] | typo on http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSavedInstanceInfo: GetNumSavedInstaces() -> GetNumSavedInstances() |
| 14:05.00 | pcj | kirkburn...did the wowwiki skin get changed |
| 14:05.40 | Kirkburn | Sky removed the popular links, that's all I know of |
| 14:05.46 | pcj | ... |
| 14:05.53 | Kirkburn | Btw, apparently only I can prevent wildfires. |
| 14:06.12 | pcj | put them back sky |
| 14:07.15 | pcj | yeah he's not here |
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| 14:07.25 | Kirkburn | Wondered how long that would take :P |
| 14:07.33 | Kirkburn | Post on his talk page |
| 14:07.34 | pcj | fuck |
| 14:07.51 | Kirkburn | hey now |
| 14:10.23 | pcj | no, fuck you, you unhelpful ass |
| 14:10.37 | pcj | afk |
| 14:14.07 | Kirkburn | :( |
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| 15:01.43 | Fisker- | hoho Kirkburn |
| 15:01.59 | Kirkburn | Hey Fisker- |
| 15:02.31 | Fisker- | wow-europe answered regarding magelo :P |
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| 15:07.24 | Kirochi | whew |
| 15:07.28 | Kirochi | exams over at last |
| 15:07.32 | Kirkburn | Congrats |
| 15:07.41 | Kirochi | thanks |
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| 15:08.03 | Kirochi | the english test was not as easy as I had expected |
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| 15:08.24 | Kirochi | gave me some matter to think about and work to provid |
| 15:08.24 | Kirochi | e |
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| 15:14.42 | Kirkburn | Kirochi, oh? |
| 15:14.45 | Kirkburn | What type of questions |
| 15:15.12 | sacarasc | Fisker-: where (for the magelo thing) |
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| 15:17.00 | pcj | magelo is against the ToU, should we really have ads for them |
| 15:17.32 | sacarasc | i was asking about the post |
| 15:17.53 | pcj | you mean http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6962916601&sid=1 ? |
| 15:18.35 | sacarasc | Fisker- said wow-europe answered, wanna see that one |
| 15:19.29 | sacarasc | Ackis is a quitter :o |
| 15:19.53 | Ackis | lol |
| 15:20.01 | Ackis | leaving chans so I don't spam with nick changes |
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| 15:20.08 | Kirkburn | If Blizz have a problem with it and notify us, we'll deal with it then, Until then, don't worry. |
| 15:21.16 | Fisker- | i'm not worried about you :P |
| 15:22.26 | Fisker- | Just more about them writing about it on their front page |
| 15:23.09 | Kirkburn | d;oh: http://wow-europe.com/en/index.xml |
| 15:24.21 | g0urra | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iOS3poECd3I Lord of The Clans gameplay o.0 |
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| 15:28.32 | Kirkburn | g0urra, you know you have use the youtube extension right? |
| 15:28.38 | Kirkburn | s/have/can/ |
| 15:28.44 | Kirochi | http://www.wowwiki.com/Whale <=fugly green square |
| 15:28.48 | g0urra | Yes, I know |
| 15:28.53 | Kirkburn | k :) |
| 15:29.06 | Kirkburn | Green square? |
| 15:29.07 | g0urra | green square where Kirkburn? |
| 15:29.13 | pcj | *kirochi |
| 15:29.19 | g0urra | ye ye |
| 15:29.24 | Kirkburn | I know we look alike ... |
| 15:29.48 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 15:29.53 | Fisker- | did you change ad layouts again? :D |
| 15:30.00 | Kirochi | am I the only one that sees this big piece of green dung? |
| 15:30.05 | Kirochi | ah |
| 15:30.10 | Kirochi | it was just an ad bug |
| 15:30.15 | Kirochi | I reloaded and it went away |
| 15:30.56 | Kirkburn | If you see if again, please get a screenshot and I'll pass on |
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| 15:31.29 | Kirkburn | In fact, actually - http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Bad_advertisements |
| 15:36.21 | Kirkburn | Updated http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Bad_ads with that stuff |
| 15:39.28 | Kirkburn | Btw, this is fun to read :P http://forum.gamesradar.com/viewtopic.php?t=120121&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 |
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| 15:42.41 | sacarasc | old ;p |
| 15:45.21 | Kirkburn | Yeah, not sure how I missed it |
| 15:45.52 | pcj | By being oblivious |
| 15:46.07 | Kirkburn | No, I mean it didn't come up on my feeds |
| 15:46.11 | pcj | Suuuuure |
| 15:46.20 | Kirkburn | Although I have ignored the gaming ones for ages, cause there's too damn much |
| 15:46.27 | pcj | lol |
| 15:46.32 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 15:46.55 | Kirkburn | They take ages to load in IE7, just need to get around to moving everythign to Fx3 |
| 15:47.22 | pcj | *fx3 rc2 |
| 15:47.33 | Fisker- | get held back by his leash |
| 15:47.33 | Fisker- | :( |
| 15:47.35 | Fisker- | gets* |
| 15:48.36 | Kirkburn | pcj ... true :P |
| 15:49.18 | Fisker- | growls even more |
| 15:49.45 | Kirkburn | What? |
| 15:49.58 | Kirkburn | RC2 is identical to final |
| 15:50.51 | Fisker- | i got the firefox rabies |
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| 16:06.53 | Kirkburn | zomg http://lotl.wikia.com/wiki/Limbo_of_the_Lost_Wiki |
| 16:07.02 | Kirkburn | That's awesome |
| 16:07.05 | Kirkburn | We're awesome :P |
| 16:07.22 | g0urra | moar liek lotlol amirite |
| 16:07.39 | Kirkburn | Yeah, that's what of when I saw the URL :) |
| 16:07.45 | Kirkburn | *what I thought of |
| 16:07.53 | g0urra | :P |
| 16:11.55 | g0urra | "Limbo of the Spy Guy" lol |
| 16:13.14 | Kirkburn | They even copy Blizzard: |
| 16:13.23 | Kirkburn | http://lotl.wikia.com/wiki/Image:0002432.jpg vs http://lotl.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Blacktemple-1024x.jpg ... see the top bar |
| 16:14.21 | g0urra | lool |
| 16:18.35 | g0urra | oh man, Settlers II was soo good |
| 16:21.34 | Kirkburn | Ooh, yes |
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| 16:22.05 | Kirkburn | I had to go to a friend's house in order to play my copy >_< |
| 16:22.37 | g0urra | lol |
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| 16:27.07 | Kirochi | dewadewanga |
| 16:28.19 | Kirkburn | So I notice Gmail still syas "beta" on the logo |
| 16:28.42 | JohnMahowald | Google betas are like 5 years long |
| 16:28.48 | Kirkburn | And yahoo is introducing an @ymail.com option |
| 16:28.48 | Kirochi | so I herd u liek mudkips |
| 16:28.53 | Kirkburn | The world is a funny place :P |
| 16:39.32 | g0urra | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=v59PilBshxE&feature=PlayList&p=2FB07ED95CBF40B9&index=0&playnext=1 |
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| 16:48.12 | g0urra | Kirkburn: I presume that adding undocumented changes in patch 2.4.3 from WoR wont' get me in trouble? |
| 16:48.29 | Kirkburn | Not at all |
| 16:48.58 | Kirkburn | Cite them though, it's only fair |
| 16:54.24 | pcj | mm stormwind harbor |
| 16:54.25 | pcj | cool |
| 16:59.49 | kd3 | yay for finally being able to talk about it |
| 17:00.00 | Fisker- | i'm scruffy |
| 17:00.02 | Fisker- | the janitor |
| 17:00.14 | Fisker- | you've been able to talk about it forever |
| 17:00.37 | kd3 | lol |
| 17:06.32 | g0urra | "One cat, 50 MSK!" |
| 17:07.52 | g0urra | http://media.worldofwarcraft.com/movies/video_loader/wow_video.htm?vid=pepitoz&dir=movies/machinima |
| 17:20.12 | Kirkburn | kd3, we can talk about it? What changed? |
| 17:20.29 | Kirkburn | Oh! |
| 17:20.31 | Kirkburn | I see :) |
| 17:20.36 | kd3 | it's on the ptr |
| 17:20.43 | Kirkburn | Awesomesauce |
| 17:21.08 | Kirkburn | Btw, an interesting song composed mostly from Alice in Wonderland - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pAwR6w2TgxY |
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| 17:29.47 | Camicio | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.10 | AckisWork | time to change batteries? |
| 17:34.19 | Camicio | triedlatest driver installed . it worked until a couple of days ago, it stopped working, i changed batteries. and i press both 'connect' buttons on keyboard and receiver |
| 17:35.32 | pcj | i think you must've forgotten to hit it regularly with a hammer |
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| 17:45.09 | kd3 | percussive maintenance <3 |
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| 17:50.00 | g0urra | Uh, what non-WoW fishing poles are there? |
| 17:50.02 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:World_of_Warcraft_fishing_poles |
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| 18:03.14 | Fisker- | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:05.17 | kd3 | wth? "gamepro media"? |
| 18:07.18 | Sky2042_afk | Gryphen: lol at your wowhead post |
| 18:07.32 | Sky2042_afk | i wasn't sure how to summarize it well, but that works. >.> |
| 18:07.33 | Gryphen | hate that guy |
| 18:07.54 | Gryphen | such a forum expert doesnt know something so simple |
| 18:10.27 | g0urra | slooowwiki |
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| 18:14.11 | SeverinAndrews | Hello everyone |
| 18:14.27 | SeverinAndrews | Hope someone is not idle |
| 18:14.35 | pcj | why |
| 18:14.49 | SeverinAndrews | I want to talk with someone |
| 18:14.55 | pcj | about what |
| 18:15.08 | SeverinAndrews | Mmm... Wow? |
| 18:15.15 | pcj | wow. |
| 18:16.05 | SeverinAndrews | Anyone active besides you? |
| 18:16.19 | Gryphen | why |
| 18:16.36 | SeverinAndrews | 'Caus I don't want to talk with one people ;) |
| 18:17.06 | SeverinAndrews | What do you guys think, what would be subject of 3rd WoW's expansion? |
| 18:17.16 | g0urra | Kittens |
| 18:17.39 | Gryphen | Rare Beans |
| 18:17.47 | g0urra | Devil Fruits |
| 18:17.48 | SeverinAndrews | Ehe, seriously ;) |
| 18:18.09 | SeverinAndrews | I bet on Great Sea, and you? |
| 18:18.11 | pcj | Fighting Sargeras in the Emerald Dream |
| 18:18.33 | SeverinAndrews | Sargeras in Emerald Dream? |
| 18:18.39 | g0urra | Fighting kittens in the Azure Nightmare |
| 18:18.51 | SeverinAndrews | I don't think he's there, it was rather something with an Old God |
| 18:19.05 | pcj | How do you know what's in the emerald dream |
| 18:19.17 | Ragestorm | The source of the Nightmare is completely unknown. Only speculation. |
| 18:19.36 | SeverinAndrews | I don't know, but it was somewhere mentioned that it has something to do with the Old Gods |
| 18:19.44 | pcj | And what do you think Sargeras is |
| 18:19.46 | SeverinAndrews | Maybe even it was about Hakkar |
| 18:19.58 | SeverinAndrews | Sargeras? Fel-corrupted Titan. |
| 18:20.07 | Ragestorm | Probably a speculation page |
| 18:20.26 | SeverinAndrews | Maybe |
| 18:20.27 | Sky2042 | "Fel-corrupted Titan"... that's a new description. |
| 18:20.28 | Ragestorm | Or a relic from before we added the speculation tag |
| 18:20.45 | Ragestorm | If you read in on WoWWiki. |
| 18:20.57 | SeverinAndrews | Well, he's a Titan |
| 18:21.03 | SeverinAndrews | And he's corrupted by fel |
| 18:21.09 | Ragestorm | Not exactly. |
| 18:21.15 | Ragestorm | His corruption was internal |
| 18:21.16 | g0urra | He's dead/eternal ya know |
| 18:21.28 | Ragestorm | Fel-corruption implies what happened to the Orcs |
| 18:21.48 | SeverinAndrews | So why he have horns, cracked skin etc? |
| 18:21.52 | g0urra | He was "enlightened" |
| 18:21.57 | Ragestorm | Sargeras went insane, and his powers changed to reflect what was in his mind |
| 18:22.28 | SeverinAndrews | And you think fel didn't had any effect on him while sitting for milennia in the Nether? |
| 18:22.49 | Ragestorm | He wasn't. He was off wherever the Champion was needed. |
| 18:23.01 | Ragestorm | It's also possible titans are immune |
| 18:23.26 | SeverinAndrews | I mean, after the he disbanded being a Champion |
| 18:23.43 | SeverinAndrews | Possible... this word is coming out too much |
| 18:24.01 | pcj | Well, the only thing above the Lich King is going to be Sargeras |
| 18:24.07 | Ragestorm | <shrug> He's described as changing soon after his change of heart. |
| 18:24.17 | pcj | So since we presumably defeat Arthas in WOTLK, Sargeras should be next |
| 18:24.28 | Ragestorm | Err... not really. |
| 18:24.35 | pcj | And I doubt we're going to find him in the maelstrom |
| 18:24.44 | SeverinAndrews | We still haven't dealt with Azshara, remaining Old Gods, source of Worgen curse... |
| 18:24.55 | SeverinAndrews | Many villains yet to be defeated |
| 18:24.58 | Ragestorm | Old Gods seem to rank above Sargeras |
| 18:25.01 | SeverinAndrews | Source of a Nightmare |
| 18:25.16 | Ragestorm | Really killing Kil'jaeden |
| 18:25.23 | SeverinAndrews | Yeah |
| 18:25.33 | pcj | I doubt they're going to cover really killing kil'jaeden in WoW |
| 18:25.40 | pcj | or anything beyond arthas |
| 18:25.42 | Ragestorm | There's still a lot to do, and I heard they're planning to bring Warcraft back to RTS in a few years. |
| 18:26.06 | Ragestorm | So Sargeras can wait. |
| 18:26.06 | SeverinAndrews | They're going to cover killing Kil'jaeden and everyone else in few years... |
| 18:26.23 | SeverinAndrews | Look how they dealt with Illidan, and now Arthas |
| 18:26.37 | Ragestorm | Kil'jaeden, they're probably saving |
| 18:26.42 | SeverinAndrews | I don't mean they superduperheroes, just they were loved my many. |
| 18:27.22 | Ragestorm | A) he's the longest running continuous villain, and B) they've put him in at less than half power already, so they won't do full. |
| 18:27.41 | Ragestorm | *B ) |
| 18:28.48 | Sky2042 | full comes at level 90 or 100 |
| 18:28.50 | Sky2042 | :DD |
| 18:29.11 | SeverinAndrews | Ful comes at level 10000 |
| 18:29.13 | SeverinAndrews | ;) |
| 18:29.20 | Sky2042 | no, not over 9000 imo |
| 18:29.40 | SeverinAndrews | Yeah, 900 expansions are a bit too much ;) |
| 18:31.03 | pcj | they'll probably run out of modifiers for healing potion (e.g., greater healing potion, major healing potion, super healing potion) past the 5th expansion |
| 18:31.17 | SeverinAndrews | I bet this way: Great Sea, Elemental Plane, Emerald Dream, Twisting Nether, END |
| 18:31.22 | g0urra | "Awesome Healing Potion" |
| 18:31.23 | Sky2042 | they'll just change the name pcj. |
| 18:31.31 | g0urra | Lol what Elemental Plane before Emerald Dream? |
| 18:31.33 | Sky2042 | restorative potion or something. |
| 18:31.37 | pcj | dumb |
| 18:31.53 | Ragestorm | SeverinAndrews: I don't think they'll do that many. |
| 18:32.03 | pcj | ok smart guy what do they call profession training past master |
| 18:32.05 | SeverinAndrews | What, I really want to deal with the malicious Elementals :) |
| 18:32.16 | SeverinAndrews | Master, Overlord? :) |
| 18:32.31 | Ragestorm | They'll probably do Elemental Plane, Emerald Dream, and that's it. |
| 18:32.51 | SeverinAndrews | What with Azshara? |
| 18:32.59 | Ragestorm | WoW was designed to function as the main project for not more than ten years. |
| 18:33.51 | Ragestorm | Call me crazy, but I don't think they're going to go for an underwater one |
| 18:34.03 | SeverinAndrews | Why? |
| 18:34.29 | pcj | uh |
| 18:34.40 | pcj | you can't do a lot of stuff while swimming |
| 18:34.48 | Ragestorm | Well, partly because they made such a huge stink about how long everyone could hold their breaths |
| 18:35.02 | Ragestorm | partly because you can't shoot an arrow underwater |
| 18:35.16 | Ragestorm | Not relably, anyway |
| 18:35.22 | pcj | and the cooking profession would just die |
| 18:35.41 | Ragestorm | So would Fire spells |
| 18:35.56 | SeverinAndrews | Well, we could fight inside some... uh... domes under water? |
| 18:36.04 | Ragestorm | Frost would be virtually useless. |
| 18:36.10 | SeverinAndrews | Xavius must be covered with one. |
| 18:36.19 | Ragestorm | Xavius is dead. |
| 18:36.27 | SeverinAndrews | Xavius is a tree |
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| 18:36.40 | Ragestorm | No, his body was used to feed a tree. |
| 18:37.05 | SeverinAndrews | I "heard" on WoWWiki that he was changed into a tree |
| 18:37.58 | Ragestorm | http://www.wowwiki.com/Xavius |
| 18:38.13 | Ragestorm | It's in the paragraph right before that crap about him being an Eternal |
| 18:38.53 | Ragestorm | Depending on location, the tree was either destroyed in the Sundering or is still in the eastern extremity of Ashenvale |
| 18:39.02 | Ragestorm | Or has since died |
| 18:39.20 | Ragestorm | Speaking of which, that article needs reformatting |
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| 18:40.43 | SeverinAndrews | Well, my last argument is... |
| 18:40.58 | SeverinAndrews | Because I feel next expansion would be Great Sea ;) |
| 18:41.17 | SeverinAndrews | I felt that Northrend would be second and Outland first, so I must be right this time too ;) |
| 18:43.01 | g0urra | "With one last bestial howl, all trace of the satyr vanished as the tree that the druid had created from the wooden shaft took full bloom. Xavius' skin mottled, then became thick bark. His mouth, still howling, turned into an open knot. Combatants around him scarred as the roots stretching down to his hooves burrowed deep into the ground and sealed his position. And in the midst of so much devastation and death, a huge, proud oak spread a canopy o |
| 18:43.01 | g0urra | f rich, green leaves over the hillside, the triumph of life over the mockery of it." |
| 18:43.10 | g0urra | Sunder, page 353 |
| 18:43.14 | g0urra | The Sundering* |
| 18:44.36 | Ragestorm | <shrug> It's still possible |
| 18:45.18 | Ragestorm | They could dramatically increase the number of Broken Isles, then perhaps magically teleport you down to Nazjatar for the final confrontation |
| 18:45.42 | Ragestorm | Where Azshara's pride would lead her to challenge you in air |
| 18:46.06 | Ragestorm | Or Nazjatar could rise horrifically from the sea |
| 18:46.36 | SeverinAndrews | Yeah, famous retcons ;) |
| 18:46.48 | Ragestorm | ? |
| 18:47.08 | SeverinAndrews | They would retcon his death if needed for expansion |
| 18:47.18 | Ragestorm | Whose? |
| 18:47.19 | SeverinAndrews | Just as number of Broken Isles |
| 18:47.25 | SeverinAndrews | Xavius's |
| 18:47.37 | Ragestorm | If deperately needed |
| 18:47.49 | Ragestorm | But satyrs and Naga don't really mix |
| 18:48.10 | g0urra | "In another time line, Xavius didn't get turned into a tree by Malfurion" |
| 18:48.54 | SeverinAndrews | Well, Azshara was working with Xavius closely. She's a Naga now and Xavius is a Satyr. |
| 18:49.05 | Ragestorm | Azshara hated him |
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| 18:49.23 | Ragestorm | She'd sooner kill him then even look at him |
| 18:49.41 | g0urra | "You have failed me, Xavius! Justice shall be met, indeed!" |
| 18:49.45 | Ragestorm | Plus, Xavius serves the Legion, Azshara now served the Old Gods |
| 18:50.16 | SeverinAndrews | Well, he's still under the Maelstrom so he just fits here :D |
| 18:50.22 | g0urra | Oh so it was the well's energies that transformed them, but they serve the old gods? |
| 18:51.00 | g0urra | Or did they get transformed by the old gods to serve them? |
| 18:51.48 | SeverinAndrews | The latter, I guess |
| 18:52.19 | g0urra | Ragestorm is the bookkeeper, he should know |
| 18:52.58 | Ragestorm | Azshara, in her final act of defiance held back the waters of the Well. |
| 18:53.19 | Ragestorm | As Well and Queen rage, the handmaidens were totally useless. |
| 18:53.32 | Ragestorm | Vashj in particular was stuck to the Queen's leg in terror |
| 18:54.00 | Ragestorm | As Azshara's power slowly crumbled, three voices whispered |
| 18:54.15 | Ragestorm | offering help, but warning her that they must be transformed. |
| 18:54.35 | Ragestorm | The proud queen agreed, just as the water struck her down and filled her lungs. |
| 18:54.41 | Ragestorm | But she did not die |
| 18:54.46 | Ragestorm | ... |
| 18:55.25 | Ragestorm | I'm paraphrasing, obviously |
| 18:57.12 | AckisWork | those were old gods right? |
| 18:57.23 | SeverinAndrews | Yeah, Old Gods changed them. Three voices you say? |
| 18:58.01 | Ragestorm | Well, the passage itself doesn't mention a number, but we know from elsewhere that three of them were being the events of the books |
| 18:58.11 | Ragestorm | *behind |
| 19:00.44 | SeverinAndrews | So, where's the fourth? |
| 19:00.52 | SeverinAndrews | I mean, C'Thun and three other should be here |
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| 19:01.51 | SeverinAndrews | So, where's the fourth? C'Thun and three other should be there. |
| 19:02.44 | Ragestorm | The assumption is that the last one is actually dead |
| 19:03.11 | Ragestorm | Alternately, it, and not the Three or C'Thun, is behind the Emerald Nightmare |
| 19:03.49 | g0urra | "They were twisted by the residual cascading energies of the Well of Eternity" |
| 19:03.57 | g0urra | Baggins like to say that. |
| 19:03.58 | Ragestorm | It is also assumed that C'Thun acts independently of Three. While we don't know this for certain |
| 19:04.13 | AckisWork | one is dead by the undead starting area I thought? |
| 19:04.20 | SeverinAndrews | They were five at the beginning. One slain by the Titans and lays in Darkshore. C'Thun and three other. |
| 19:04.55 | Ragestorm | In their original reference the Five were chained beneath the surface |
| 19:05.11 | Ragestorm | Knaak then featured Three in WotA |
| 19:05.43 | SeverinAndrews | So, C'Thun is independent? |
| 19:06.08 | AckisWork | isn't there one of them trying to surface in azeroth (by UC)? |
| 19:06.19 | g0urra | What? |
| 19:06.42 | AckisWork | my lore is a bit fuzzy but I thought some of the corruption with the elves was due to an old god |
| 19:06.47 | Ragestorm | No |
| 19:07.07 | AckisWork | ie: where the elves landed when they left kalimdor |
| 19:07.08 | g0urra | Ragestorm, despite what both you and me say, Baggins like to cite from DF that the naga were "twisted by the residual cascading energies of the Well of Eternity" |
| 19:07.24 | Ragestorm | I figured as much. |
| 19:08.02 | Ragestorm | The High elves landed in the Tirisfal Glades, and apparently sensed something evil there and moved on |
| 19:08.25 | AckisWork | Ragestorm: and I was under the impression that the evil was an old god |
| 19:08.43 | SeverinAndrews | So Maelstrom + Tirisfal + Northrend is the Three? |
| 19:09.10 | g0urra | ??? |
| 19:09.15 | Ragestorm | This fits into the theory that the Old Gods were chained, one beneath Ashenvale, C'Thun beneath Tanaris, one beneath Tirisfal |
| 19:09.34 | Ragestorm | One beneath either the Maelstrom or Northrend |
| 19:09.55 | Ragestorm | and the final one somewhere around Zul'Gurub |
| 19:11.24 | Ragestorm | *Silithus, not Tanaris |
| 19:12.06 | Ragestorm | By this thinking, the Forgotten One beneath Azjol-Nerub is an Old God, and Hakkar is either an Old God or a servant thereof. |
| 19:12.54 | AckisWork | do you think there will be old god stuff in wrath? |
| 19:13.14 | Ragestorm | Depends on how heavily Azjol-Nerub features |
| 19:13.32 | AckisWork | old god -> titan -> stuff I like (next to dragon aspects) |
| 19:13.43 | Ragestorm | It sounds like they're more focused on wrapping up the Malygos and Scourge storylines |
| 19:14.07 | Ragestorm | Although they did make a big deal out of those Nerubian viziers |
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| 19:15.43 | AckisWork | would be interesting to see new titan lore =/ |
| 19:15.56 | AckisWork | and I'm really excited for the Malygos storyline |
| 19:17.22 | Ragestorm | I'm very interested to see exactly what Knaak is publishing to make Night of the Dragon's list price $16 |
| 19:29.39 | Fisker- | hey Ackis- |
| 19:29.42 | Fisker- | i want to kill you |
| 19:29.50 | AckisWork | why? |
| 19:30.01 | AckisWork | and can you make it painless? |
| 19:32.08 | AckisWork | ~lart Fisker- |
| 19:32.08 | infobot | gets a hotmal account and SPAMs Fisker- |
| 19:34.03 | g0urra | hotmal? |
| 19:34.06 | g0urra | fail |
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| 19:36.36 | g0urra | http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/viewer.php?artist=thammer&cat=warcraft&art=16 ouch |
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| 19:42.03 | SeverinAndrews | Uh, disconnected a while... |
| 19:44.18 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump |
| 19:44.19 | Bagginsww | :p |
| 19:44.43 | SeverinAndrews | ? |
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| 19:46.46 | g0urra | Bagginsww: Ragestorm is a firm believer of that naga were transformed by the Old Gods, and that they now serve them |
| 19:47.11 | g0urra | <Ragestorm> Azshara, in her final act of defiance held back the waters of the Well. |
| 19:47.11 | g0urra | <Ragestorm> As Well and Queen rage, the handmaidens were totally useless. |
| 19:47.11 | g0urra | <Ragestorm> Vashj in particular was stuck to the Queen's leg in terror |
| 19:47.11 | g0urra | <Ragestorm> As Azshara's power slowly crumbled, three voices whispered |
| 19:47.11 | g0urra | <Ragestorm> offering help, but warning her that they must be transformed. |
| 19:47.12 | g0urra | <Ragestorm> The proud queen agreed, just as the water struck her down and filled her lungs. |
| 19:47.31 | Bagginsww | sure, it just seems the old gods utilized the energies of the well to transform the naga into who they are |
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| 19:48.01 | SeverinAndrews | I don't think they need the Well, their own power is enough |
| 19:48.26 | g0urra | Bagginsww, now you're saying it's not the energy itself, but that the Old Gods used it. |
| 19:48.29 | Bagginsww | I'm referring to the quotes form several sources that talk about cascading energies |
| 19:48.34 | Bagginsww | that were left over |
| 19:48.35 | Bagginsww | residual |
| 19:48.40 | Bagginsww | changing them |
| 19:48.42 | SeverinAndrews | Look, Knaak is more important in lore that RPG, with all due respect to the RPG |
| 19:49.12 | Bagginsww | please post post proof of that statement |
| 19:49.14 | Sandwichman2448 | =? |
| 19:49.25 | Bagginsww | I can give you statements from other officials saying that they are all the same :p |
| 19:49.27 | g0urra | Ask Ragestorm |
| 19:49.33 | Sandwichman2448 | =. |
| 19:49.39 | g0urra | or who are you asking. |
| 19:49.52 | Bagginsww | or rather that books are "mostly canon" to the games themselves |
| 19:50.05 | Bagginsww | gourra, severin's "more important" |
| 19:50.06 | Bagginsww | quotes |
| 19:50.09 | g0urra | k |
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| 19:50.34 | Bagginsww | btw Metzen was involved with writing ever rpg book |
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| 19:50.55 | g0urra | speaking of the devil |
| 19:51.08 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeh. |
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| 19:51.12 | SeverinAndrews | Ragestorm, convince him that Knaak is more important than RPG |
| 19:51.16 | Bagginsww | and that other Blizzard Official, Bob Fitch |
| 19:51.45 | Bagginsww | Knaack is more important than Bob Fitch and Metzen? |
| 19:51.53 | Ragestorm | No. |
| 19:52.23 | Ragestorm | It's not possible to convince Baggins that one source of lore is more important than another. |
| 19:52.37 | Bagginsww | but ya my point is no source is more important than another except for the games themselves |
| 19:52.56 | Bagginsww | which Metezen said himself |
| 19:53.00 | SeverinAndrews | I like the RPG but look: in my last campaign I have the Autons, race created by me. It doesn't make Autons part of lore. |
| 19:53.10 | SeverinAndrews | RPG campaign, I might add |
| 19:53.17 | Ragestorm | that's different |
| 19:53.36 | Ragestorm | We're talking about what's specifically published, not what |
| 19:53.53 | Bagginsww | http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/6335034.htm |
| 19:53.57 | Ragestorm | people add. |
| 19:54.51 | Sandwichman2448 | They were from Doctor Who I think... |
| 19:54.57 | SeverinAndrews | But RPG was created to give us more freedom and the published texts are also "free" |
| 19:55.12 | Bagginsww | ... |
| 19:55.26 | SeverinAndrews | OK, I don't want to get into this once more |
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| 19:56.02 | SeverinAndrews | BTW, Baggins do you think Appendix 3 (MoM) is really cannon? |
| 19:56.04 | Ragestorm | Autons are plastic humaniform agents of the Nestene Conciousness |
| 19:56.15 | SeverinAndrews | Not these Autons ;) |
| 19:56.20 | Ragestorm | They tried several times to invade Earth |
| 19:56.35 | Ragestorm | First thwarted in the 1970s by the Third Doctor and UNIT |
| 19:56.38 | SeverinAndrews | I watch Doctor Who, but that's only the coincidence of names |
| 19:57.08 | Ragestorm | Then again in the 2000s following the Last Great Time War, thwarted by the Ninth Doctor and Rose Tyler |
| 19:57.14 | Bagginsww | cannon's go boom |
| 19:57.26 | Ragestorm | Current status: presumed destroyed. |
| 19:57.37 | SeverinAndrews | You know what I mean, misspelling: canon |
| 19:58.18 | Bagginsww | I don't discuss canon sorry... I hold no opinions on that issue. Gotta keep things neutral. |
| 19:58.18 | SeverinAndrews | Or lore to be more precisely. |
| 19:58.31 | Sandwichman2448 | feels Ragestorm has a good memory. |
| 19:58.43 | Bagginsww | you have read the policy right? |
| 19:58.59 | SeverinAndrews | Which one this time? |
| 19:59.14 | Ragestorm | Sandwichman2448: I grew up hiding behind the sofa whenever the Daleks appeared |
| 19:59.28 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Policy/Writing/Lore |
| 19:59.28 | Sandwichman2448 | I just watched it. |
| 19:59.53 | Ragestorm | SeverinAndrews, nobody is saying that the RPG is the trump-all |
| 20:00.02 | Ragestorm | It's just that a percentage of the lore within |
| 20:00.22 | Ragestorm | (Exactly what percentage Bagginsww and I disagree heavily on) |
| 20:00.43 | Ragestorm | Is probably correct, helpful, expansive, etc. |
| 20:00.43 | SeverinAndrews | We don't decide what is the lore, it's Blizzard job. Yes, it is - and Blizzard mentioned Appendix 3 is not canon. |
| 20:01.00 | Bagginsww | Blizzard hasn't said anything on the issue |
| 20:01.04 | Bagginsww | actually |
| 20:01.24 | Bagginsww | only a former author, who later admitted she doesn't know what blizzard's thoughts were |
| 20:01.56 | Bagginsww | secondly |
| 20:02.03 | SeverinAndrews | Quoting "Manual of Monsters" article on WoWWiki: However, the rpg staff involved has admitted that their opinion is their own, and does not represent Blizzard Entertainment. |
| 20:02.08 | SeverinAndrews | So this was not lore. |
| 20:02.31 | SeverinAndrews | But out of lore-not lore, do you really think Leprechaun and Forlarren is part of lore? |
| 20:02.36 | Bagginsww | even if they had intended for it to not be official someone forgot the memo when they scattered appendix three info throughout the entire book,through chapter one all the way to appendix 2 |
| 20:02.47 | SeverinAndrews | I mean, your personal opinion. |
| 20:03.18 | Bagginsww | and the same rpg staff admitted it was their opinion and not repsrentive of blizzards |
| 20:03.20 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:ProblemReports/11079 what? |
| 20:03.29 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:ProblemReports/11080 .. |
| 20:03.50 | g0urra | Oh, lol. |
| 20:03.56 | pcj | stfu |
| 20:04.00 | pcj | he's being dumb |
| 20:04.03 | pcj | see his talk page |
| 20:04.07 | g0urra | Figured as much |
| 20:04.48 | Bagginsww | also othe authors have said things 'off the record' their opinions only to have something else published that contradicted them... thus at the top of our writing policy stating; |
| 20:05.12 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Policy/Writing/Lore |
| 20:05.12 | SeverinAndrews | I mean, your personal opinion. Do you think it's really accurate? |
| 20:05.19 | Bagginsww | Comments by authors, artists, and Blizzard employees may also be of interest, but should always be clearly cited as such, and not taken as definitive statements of fact. |
| 20:05.23 | g0urra | pcj: it was more like "huh?", not "LULZ EDIT WARZ" |
| 20:05.28 | SeverinAndrews | Be out of policies for a moment. Your personal opinion. |
| 20:05.45 | pcj | well "huh?" was my thought too |
| 20:06.11 | Ragestorm | I can't even make sense of the Staff of Hale one |
| 20:06.11 | Sandwichman2448 | I do not think admitting a bias is very neutral. |
| 20:06.18 | Bagginsww | Honestly I don't know what to think of it... If it wasn't intended by the authors to be official then why did authors merge some of the info into the main bulk of the book? |
| 20:06.25 | Bagginsww | [[mite]] is a good example |
| 20:06.29 | Bagginsww | [[mite]] |
| 20:06.43 | Ragestorm | Bagginsww, you have to copy the url, we're not on-site |
| 20:06.49 | Bagginsww | just a sec |
| 20:06.51 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Mite |
| 20:06.51 | Dotted | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/mite |
| 20:06.51 | g0urra | [[Mite]] |
| 20:06.51 | Dotted | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/mite |
| 20:06.51 | Dotted | g0urra meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Mite |
| 20:06.57 | Sandwichman2448 | :( |
| 20:07.00 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Mite |
| 20:07.05 | Sandwichman2448 | lol |
| 20:07.10 | Ragestorm | I think he gets the message |
| 20:07.19 | Bagginsww | page 89 is the salamander article btw |
| 20:07.22 | SeverinAndrews | Yeah, I did the first time :P |
| 20:07.23 | Ragestorm | Gods only know what will happen when I ask for a reference |
| 20:07.52 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 20:08.23 | Bagginsww | and some of the other stuff has slowly been incorporated into other sources... |
| 20:08.57 | Bagginsww | half-ogre section for example was pretty much quoted and expanded on in Horde Player's Guide |
| 20:09.30 | SeverinAndrews | Remind me of buying APG and HPG... I can't find them anywhere |
| 20:09.49 | Sandwichman2448 | Drivethrough RPG thing. |
| 20:09.53 | Bagginsww | so I'd say my opinion is roughly that maybe not all of it is official but apparently parts of it are, and is certainly fair game for other authors to use... |
| 20:10.09 | Bagginsww | but then again not all parts of the novels are "official" either accordking Metzen |
| 20:10.19 | Bagginsww | they give the authors alot of freedom |
| 20:10.24 | Bagginsww | to write whatever they want |
| 20:10.31 | Sandwichman2448 | has little idea what he is talking about, but knows it is some type of RPG shopping website. |
| 20:10.32 | Bagginsww | to a point |
| 20:10.38 | SeverinAndrews | Well, at least Forlarren seems interesting |
| 20:10.43 | SeverinAndrews | And fits Illidan |
| 20:11.13 | Bagginsww | although illidan isn't born half-demon :p |
| 20:11.16 | Bagginsww | *wasn't |
| 20:11.26 | SeverinAndrews | But Fatling... I can't think of it. It hurts my brain. |
| 20:11.32 | SeverinAndrews | So Illidan is unnatural Forlarren |
| 20:11.39 | Bagginsww | he's something else imo |
| 20:11.54 | Bagginsww | sort of how eredar became demons |
| 20:12.06 | Bagginsww | through use of demonic magic and fel energy |
| 20:12.31 | Sandwichman2448 | You know, one concept art piece of Illidan has him as big as the room he is in. |
| 20:12.42 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
| 20:13.21 | Sandwichman2448 | feels that was off topic. |
| 20:13.25 | Bagginsww | I get the impression demons have the ability to change size as one of their powers, :p there are several examples of demons infiltrating into other races appearing as those races |
| 20:14.11 | Bagginsww | at least we know its certainly a power for KJ |
| 20:14.35 | g0urra | and Archimonde |
| 20:14.39 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 20:15.29 | Sandwichman2448 | May I please link humorous information about WotLK alpha information? The hammer fell down a short while ago upon on those who broke the NDA. |
| 20:15.54 | Sandwichman2448 | It contains links to DNP alpha info. |
| 20:16.12 | pcj | ok |
| 20:16.42 | Sandwichman2448 | http://wotlk.wikidot.com/forum/t-68620/statement-about-the-recent-deleting-editing-of-alpha-content |
| 20:16.48 | Sandwichman2448 | DarkWoWWiki. |
| 20:18.18 | Bagginsww | lol |
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| 20:19.04 | Bagginsww | fatling, reminds me of a variation on everybody's favorite fat abominations, though "smarter"? |
| 20:19.57 | Bagginsww | i have no idea what the oriignal race wa slike that inspired the Warcraft conversion version. |
| 20:21.38 | Bagginsww | the term fatling originates from a real world term, a fatted animal intended to be butchered? |
| 20:22.27 | Bagginsww | I for the life of me never thought Blizzard would incorporate Beholders LOL |
| 20:22.44 | Bagginsww | or even use that term... |
| 20:22.48 | Bagginsww | I thought the term was copyrighted |
| 20:23.01 | SeverinAndrews | They did not officialy use Beholders |
| 20:23.08 | SeverinAndrews | Officialy they're "floating eyes" |
| 20:23.18 | Bagginsww | actually they are called beholders in game |
| 20:23.30 | Bagginsww | they drop "beholder eyes" |
| 20:23.43 | Bagginsww | floating eys and beholder are interchangeable terms |
| 20:23.54 | Bagginsww | actually floating eyes originate from the DnD too as I recall |
| 20:24.02 | SeverinAndrews | I always thought "beholder" is only model file name |
| 20:24.05 | Bagginsww | don't remember if they were variants of beholders |
| 20:24.44 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Crimson_Beholder_Eye one eample |
| 20:25.17 | SeverinAndrews | I still prefer calling them "Sleepy Willy" ;P |
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| 20:25.54 | Bagginsww | ahh yes one of my favorite pets heh |
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| 20:27.00 | g0urra | Hmm I see several of the leaked alpha icons showing on wowhead... |
| 20:27.10 | Bagginsww | they should use the baby floating eyes/beholders as an enemy |
| 20:27.16 | Bagginsww | like have swarms of them come out |
| 20:27.29 | Bagginsww | and start shooting lazers out of their eyes |
| 20:27.33 | Bagginsww | have to be aoed |
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| 20:28.04 | Sandwichman2448 | mm I see several of the leaked alpha icons showing on wowhead... |
| 20:28.04 | Sandwichman2448 | <Bagginsww> they should use the baby floating eyes/beholders as an enemy |
| 20:28.04 | Sandwichman2448 | <Bagginsww> like have swarms of them come out |
| 20:28.04 | Sandwichman2448 | <Bagginsww> and start shooting lazers out of their eyes |
| 20:28.09 | Sandwichman2448 | Um... |
| 20:28.16 | Sandwichman2448 | I dod not mean to do that. |
| 20:28.21 | Sandwichman2448 | *did |
| 20:28.25 | Bagginsww | Lol |
| 20:28.36 | foxlit | I have a new idea for a wowinsider poll series |
| 20:28.46 | foxlit | "What's the imbaest trash mob, ever?" |
| 20:29.10 | Bagginsww | *imbaest? |
| 20:29.12 | Sandwichman2448 | ? |
| 20:29.20 | Bagginsww | lamest? |
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| 20:29.41 | foxlit | compare trash mobs' fighting styles, decide who'll come out the winner of a trash v trash match up! |
| 20:30.06 | foxlit | Or "Which trash pack wouldn't you want to meet in a dark alley?" |
| 20:30.07 | Sky2042 | who would win, Obsidian Destroyer or Molten Giant?! |
| 20:30.13 | foxlit | (a) C'Thun trash |
| 20:30.15 | SeverinAndrews | See you later, I'm leaving now |
| 20:30.21 | foxlit | (b) Sunwell blood-elf packs |
| 20:30.29 | foxlit | (c) Council's blood-elf packs |
| 20:30.34 | Bagginsww | well the tiny bit of AQ40 I did the respawning bugs was a bit annoying... but not as bad as the ones in BRS imo :p |
| 20:30.57 | AckisWork | C'thun trash is still talked about, I doubt sunwell will be and council has already been ignored |
| 20:31.32 | foxlit | C'Thun trash was generally badly balanced |
| 20:32.07 | foxlit | and yeah, council's packs are boring |
| 20:32.08 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Scarab <--My vote. |
| 20:32.28 | kd3 | post-emps trash... </3 |
| 20:33.21 | Bagginsww | I never got as far as C'thun |
| 20:33.28 | Bagginsww | unfortunately :p |
| 20:33.29 | Kaso | I loved AQ |
| 20:33.33 | Kaso | it was really fun |
| 20:33.46 | kd3 | I still maintain that C'thun was the best boss fight they've ever implemented |
| 20:33.58 | kd3 | once they un-cockblocked him |
| 20:34.00 | Sandwichman2448 | So useless it is sad (one quest, but you do not need the room to finish it), everyone is like 'NO AOE' but everyone hears 'AOE only comes from some AOE spells' and then wipe. |
| 20:34.09 | Bagginsww | Imo they should rework some of those 40 mans for 10 man stuff. use a heroic /normal switch |
| 20:34.23 | Bagginsww | to allow people to see what they were like |
| 20:34.35 | Bagginsww | of course you can probably 10 man in next expansionLOL |
| 20:34.57 | Bagginsww | did they ever fix the broken boss battle in BRS first boss? |
| 20:35.12 | kd3 | where the phase 1 trash kept spawning in 2? |
| 20:35.20 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 20:35.22 | Sandwichman2448 | ...The wolf? |
| 20:35.27 | kd3 | dunno. it's still doable |
| 20:35.33 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 20:35.45 | Kaso | I agree Bagginsww, its a shame that the old 40mans are completely dead :< |
| 20:36.12 | kd3 | meh, we were 5-8-manning MC once a week for a while to get to the bindings bosses |
| 20:36.12 | Bagginsww | I mean I don't necessarily want the loot I want to see the story |
| 20:36.25 | Sandwichman2448 | Want to know what I think about their future? |
| 20:37.07 | Kaso | I still want my damn Shard of the fallen star from AQ |
| 20:37.09 | Bagginsww | people will still try to collect pieces for the atiesh |
| 20:37.13 | Kaso | never saw that drop >< |
| 20:38.10 | Sandwichman2448 | With the preview of the WoW comic with the Ony questline in it, I feel Lo'Gosh will do all the instances (so the content is documented) and then they will be removed. |
| 20:38.11 | Bagginsww | apparently they fixed the dire maul tribute for people last 60? so that the quest is doable although you can't get a buff anymore. |
| 20:38.41 | Bagginsww | I don't think they will remove a dungoen |
| 20:38.58 | Bagginsww | but they will probably change the boss name if there is a lore conflict |
| 20:39.00 | Sandwichman2448 | It is far fetched... |
| 20:39.11 | Bagginsww | and the way you get attuned |
| 20:39.17 | Bagginsww | probably just drop the attunement |
| 20:39.32 | Bagginsww | if they plan to add the king back to stormwind castle |
| 20:39.44 | Bagginsww | on the other hand I really hate tha tkind of story progression |
| 20:39.56 | Bagginsww | imo the game's story should be the same for starting players |
| 20:39.59 | g0urra | What would you say if I corrected the current death knight "icon" to the real one? |
| 20:40.25 | kd3 | nope. unless you've seen it posted with blizz's ok... |
| 20:40.28 | Sandwichman2448 | No. |
| 20:40.30 | g0urra | k |
| 20:40.40 | Bagginsww | basically a player hsould be able to to level up see developing story |
| 20:40.45 | Bagginsww | use a invisible trigger system |
| 20:40.54 | Sandwichman2448 | Like LOTRO? |
| 20:40.58 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 20:41.05 | Bagginsww | although it would work somewhat different |
| 20:41.33 | g0urra | Lol it's on wowhead. |
| 20:41.38 | Bagginsww | basically if you finishe dosme mimportant story quest they could make the character you should see appear anytime you come near that area only for you |
| 20:41.50 | Bagginsww | and the other invisible |
| 20:42.14 | Bagginsww | there are a couple of characters in game that are already that way if I recall |
| 20:42.28 | Bagginsww | you had to do some early quests just to make the character appear before your eyes |
| 20:42.44 | Bagginsww | once yo had he prereqs finished you could see them ever after |
| 20:42.57 | Bagginsww | so imo that's what should have happened with M'uru |
| 20:43.29 | Bagginsww | the starting blood elves learn about the treachery of their race stealing the naaru's power |
| 20:43.57 | Bagginsww | once they reach level 70 beat Kael'thas and do a certain quest, it would trigger the change in their race |
| 20:44.13 | Bagginsww | you know how some quests will get you announced every time you enter an area? |
| 20:44.30 | Bagginsww | they could have worked it so that those lines from the robots worked the same way |
| 20:44.43 | Sandwichman2448 | <name> is our top gun. |
| 20:45.00 | Bagginsww | ya well they could have had it say For Kael'thas early on |
| 20:45.13 | Bagginsww | but once you defeat Kael'thas learning of his treachery |
| 20:45.19 | Bagginsww | then they would say what htey say currently |
| 20:45.25 | Sandwichman2448 | Remain strong. Kael'thas will -- error -- Lor'thermar will lead you to power and glory!. |
| 20:45.31 | Bagginsww | yep |
| 20:46.42 | Bagginsww | but ya I'd have set the switch based on the quest that leads you to Quel'Danas |
| 20:47.04 | Bagginsww | for those that missed out first Kael battle |
| 20:47.32 | Bagginsww | so as long as you start that portal quest, |
| 20:47.46 | Bagginsww | everything in silvermoon relating to mu'ru would change |
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| 20:49.12 | Sandwichman2448 | I see. |
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| 20:50.37 | Bagginsww | It really makes things truly dynamic |
| 20:50.54 | Bagginsww | lotro does it differently |
| 20:51.07 | Bagginsww | it keeps the most important things in seperate rooms |
| 20:51.13 | Sandwichman2448 | Get hired by Blizzard and tell them that. |
| 20:51.20 | Sandwichman2448 | Really. |
| 20:51.20 | Bagginsww | so you load the room |
| 20:51.26 | Sky2042_afk | alternatively post to the suggestions forum instead of here! |
| 20:51.33 | Bagginsww | I have before |
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| 20:51.37 | Sandwichman2448 | A good idea. |
| 20:51.44 | Sandwichman2448 | oh. |
| 20:51.50 | Bagginsww | I even suggested an idea for gnomer |
| 20:51.56 | Bagginsww | put it on a switch |
| 20:52.15 | Bagginsww | so that if you beat it you could use the heroic/normal system to turn it into a city |
| 20:52.50 | Bagginsww | so basically you beat it once, and then that means the Gnomes took it back |
| 20:52.58 | Bagginsww | and you are allowed to switch into the city mode |
| 20:53.11 | Bagginsww | and new sets of vendors and gnome quests are opened from within the city |
| 20:53.11 | Sandwichman2448 | Gnomer Gnomer Hey. Gnomer Gnomer Hey. Gnomer Gnomer Gnomer Gnomer Hey. |
| 20:53.29 | Sandwichman2448 | Radiation would not dissapate that quickly. |
| 20:53.34 | Bagginsww | and if you wante dto run the place again you just switch back |
| 20:53.53 | Bagginsww | eh this is warcraft not real life |
| 20:54.04 | Bagginsww | remember the |
| 20:54.13 | Bagginsww | [[Green Havens]] |
| 20:54.14 | Dotted | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Green_Havens |
| 20:54.15 | Bagginsww | ? |
| 20:54.33 | Bagginsww | just scrub your problems away with Magic |
| 20:54.39 | Sandwichman2448 | I see. Magic. |
| 20:54.59 | Bagginsww | and if yo have good technology too :p |
| 20:55.49 | Sky2042_afk | oh god Jim. |
| 20:55.57 | Sandwichman2448 | [alpha info redacted] |
| 20:56.15 | kd3 | tabs open RC... |
| 21:02.35 | Sandwichman2448 | So... |
| 21:06.04 | Bagginsww | I hold my ground things should be from verifible published sources |
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| 21:07.00 | memeyou | does anyone know of a COMBAT_LOG_EVENT exists for the log entry that generates "X's debuff-X is cleansed by Y's spell-X"? |
| 21:07.00 | memeyou | the SPELL_AURA_DISPELLED doesn't seem to have a srcGUID :(( |
| 21:07.05 | g0urra | #wowuidev |
| 21:07.12 | memeyou | sry |
| 21:07.12 | Sky2042_afk | i've pissed off two people today. wonder if i can make that three? |
| 21:07.13 | Sandwichman2448 | It OK. |
| 21:07.30 | Sandwichman2448 | I can be pissed off if you wish me to be. |
| 21:07.38 | Sky2042_afk | ok. go go go. |
| 21:07.43 | Sandwichman2448 | >:( |
| 21:08.28 | Sandwichman2448 | is done. |
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| 21:08.30 | Bagginsww | sky if you like I could be pissed off at you for no reason? |
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| 21:08.39 | Ragestorm | There, how's four? |
| 21:08.47 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 21:08.47 | Ragestorm | Or is that five? |
| 21:09.07 | Sandwichman2448 | is sorry (again). |
| 21:09.16 | Sandwichman2448 | is not 'timid'. |
| 21:09.46 | Ragestorm | Sandwichman2448, stop cowering in the corner |
| 21:09.59 | Sandwichman2448 | ...What? |
| 21:10.21 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Ragestorm!n=Sky2042@wikimedia/Izno] by Sky2042_afk (that I can do something about.) |
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| 21:10.39 | Sandwichman2448 | IRL there are no 'corners' near my keyboard. |
| 21:11.33 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Spell_sayings |
| 21:11.36 | Bagginsww | :p |
| 21:11.42 | Sandwichman2448 | feels he ruined another joke. |
| 21:12.20 | Sandwichman2448 | Very bold Baggins. |
| 21:12.42 | Sky2042_afk | Bagginsww: it's not signed. did you not get that part? |
| 21:13.29 | winkiller | Sky2042_afk: stop calling people nublet if you're not grasping stuff |
| 21:13.40 | *** kick/#wowwiki [winkiller!n=Sky2042@wikimedia/Izno] by Sky2042_afk (nub.) |
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| 21:13.45 | Bagginsww | sky the "signed' part is what I mean that citations need to be given |
| 21:13.53 | Bagginsww | if its a quote the source of the quote needs to be given |
| 21:13.57 | Bagginsww | otherwise its not a quote |
| 21:14.01 | winkiller | Sky2042_afk: when my name gets changed I don't give a flying fuck if somewhere my old signature is broken |
| 21:14.16 | winkiller | Sky2042_afk: so fix it you are a pedant, but don't insult people |
| 21:14.24 | Sky2042_afk | o_o |
| 21:14.31 | Sky2042_afk | isn't quite sure what sparked this outrage. |
| 21:14.39 | winkiller | User_talk:Armagone |
| 21:14.56 | Sky2042_afk | Ok, you're number 3 |
| 21:14.58 | Sky2042_afk | woohoo |
| 21:15.39 | Sky2042_afk | Why are you linking your user talk page if there's nothing on it? |
| 21:15.55 | Sky2042_afk | of use to inform me of what's going on* |
| 21:16.13 | winkiller | okok, it was User_talk:Armagon |
| 21:16.41 | Sky2042_afk | still doesn't help. i see all of two edits in the history |
| 21:16.49 | g0urra | Armagon links to Armagone.. |
| 21:16.50 | Sky2042_afk | one of which is redirecting it to the correct place. |
| 21:16.55 | winkiller | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AArmagone&diff=1405969&oldid=1332762 |
| 21:16.56 | g0urra | s/links/redirects/ |
| 21:17.14 | Sandwichman2448 | Eh? A db merge thing? |
| 21:17.19 | winkiller | " (fix your sig, nublet.)" |
| 21:17.20 | Sky2042_afk | ok, there we go. |
| 21:17.43 | winkiller | insult the wikia people. their fault, not mine |
| 21:18.20 | Sky2042_afk | sighs. |
| 21:18.46 | Sky2042_afk | wonders how and why people get pissed off for such little things. |
| 21:18.56 | *** part/#wowwiki Malgayne (n=Malgayne@cpe-66-75-244-175.san.res.rr.com) |
| 21:19.32 | Sandwichman2448 | Little is relative... |
| 21:20.22 | winkiller | I don't mind being called idiot or moron if I made a mistake. but not if it's not my fault. |
| 21:22.03 | Sandwichman2448 | Bagginsww: Speaking of me being called timid, you still have not commented on the doomed to fail but still nice to comment on vote that you suggested I start... |
| 21:22.56 | Bagginsww | hmm which vote? |
| 21:22.59 | Bagginsww | I'm lost |
| 21:23.08 | Sandwichman2448 | Admin. |
| 21:23.14 | Bagginsww | oh the one you never gave me a link to |
| 21:23.22 | Sandwichman2448 | Oh, and is this fan fiction: http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Sky2042#Kalimag Sky said it is not. |
| 21:23.23 | Bagginsww | I didn't even know you made one LOL |
| 21:23.29 | Bagginsww | its speculation |
| 21:23.33 | Sandwichman2448 | [[WW:RFA]] |
| 21:23.33 | Dotted | Sandwichman2448 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:RFA |
| 21:23.45 | Bagginsww | over the top speculation |
| 21:23.48 | Bagginsww | but still speculation :p |
| 21:23.52 | Sandwichman2448 | Oldish... |
| 21:24.08 | Bagginsww | generally speaking I'd say remove all languag especulation... but eh |
| 21:24.27 | Sandwichman2448 | It is messy... |
| 21:27.34 | Kirkburn | Hmm, database lock |
| 21:27.40 | pcj | yay |
| 21:28.24 | Bagginsww | gg, right in the middle of a long post |
| 21:28.26 | Bagginsww | I hate someone |
| 21:28.44 | Bagginsww | now I have to rewrit eit |
| 21:29.02 | g0urra | Can't you just go back? |
| 21:30.01 | Kirkburn | Firefox at least saves posts if you click back |
| 21:30.44 | Ragestorm | So does Safari |
| 21:35.31 | Bagginsww | go back it was already deleted out of my cache |
| 21:35.37 | Kirkburn | o_O |
| 21:35.51 | Bagginsww | so does explorer |
| 21:35.56 | Bagginsww | but apparently sometimes it glitches |
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| 21:37.15 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#MOS_and_capitalization_issues |
| 21:39.08 | Jimdinventor | hmmm, I'm glad you brought that to my attention. |
| 21:39.20 | Jimdinventor | I've been capitalizing Druid wherever I see it. :-p |
| 21:40.06 | Sandwichman2448 | Lotsa caps. |
| 21:40.31 | Bagginsww | oops hopefully you don't from now on LOL |
| 21:40.43 | Jimdinventor | Indeed not, sir. |
| 21:41.07 | Bagginsww | I never undersood why warcraft 1 and 2 manuals capitalizd the most mundane things |
| 21:41.23 | Bagginsww | well it was in the game text too |
| 21:41.51 | Bagginsww | Captain build your Farms and a Barracks near our encampment. |
| 21:41.52 | Sandwichman2448 | Caps make Things stand out. |
| 21:41.56 | Jimdinventor | I would assume it's Convention.</irony> Dames, Lords, and Sires, 'n' all that. |
| 21:42.04 | Bagginsww | well later games don't do it |
| 21:42.37 | Bagginsww | i could undertand capitalizing race/ethnic names |
| 21:42.41 | Bagginsww | we do it int real life sometimes |
| 21:42.54 | Bagginsww | some people do capitalize "HUman" |
| 21:43.02 | Kirkburn | It's one of those fantasy universe things |
| 21:43.30 | Bagginsww | its a fantasy univere thing to decapitalize or capitalize? |
| 21:43.35 | Kirkburn | Capitalize |
| 21:43.41 | Bagginsww | uh no its in real life too |
| 21:43.44 | Bagginsww | :p |
| 21:43.58 | Kirkburn | Well yeah, if people don't follow proper grammar :P |
| 21:44.00 | Bagginsww | British or british? |
| 21:44.15 | Bagginsww | well there isn't a steadfast grammatical rule on the issue |
| 21:44.23 | Sandwichman2448 | If M1330 and Kesmana are the same person why are not they both banned? Both are questionable users that have gotten a lot of mercy (Too much if combined) IMSO. Sockpuppets are bad, no? |
| 21:44.29 | Bagginsww | generally speaking most sources will capitalize ethnic groups |
| 21:44.33 | Bagginsww | or cultures |
| 21:44.43 | Sandwichman2448 | Ethnic Groups. |
| 21:44.45 | Sandwichman2448 | I do. |
| 21:44.53 | Bagginsww | I won't use "race" since that's misleading terminology |
| 21:45.03 | Kirkburn | Sandwichman2448, unless they abuse them, there's nothing we can/should do |
| 21:45.06 | Bagginsww | but most people do capitalize "race" |
| 21:45.20 | Sandwichman2448 | I see. |
| 21:45.27 | Bagginsww | I mean not the term race |
| 21:45.34 | Bagginsww | but what people perceive as races of the world |
| 21:45.43 | Bagginsww | ethnic groups is better |
| 21:45.45 | Bagginsww | term |
| 21:45.50 | Kirkburn | If they continue to be a problem, a quiet word by an admin to say "we know" would probably be enough |
| 21:45.53 | Bagginsww | or at least acceptable |
| 21:46.46 | Sandwichman2448 | Hm. |
| 21:48.40 | Kirkburn | Interesting article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalization |
| 21:49.17 | Sandwichman2448 | I still think it is funny they called themselves the 'Official Wrath Alpha Wiki'. |
| 21:49.50 | kd3 | the one on wikidot? yah, that's been amusing |
| 21:50.12 | Sandwichman2448 | I was talking about how Blizz got them earlier. |
| 21:50.53 | Ragestorm | I've looked at their forums, they mostly reference us |
| 21:51.15 | Ragestorm | And re the puppets, they know if they've checked the violations page. |
| 21:51.34 | kd3 | rofl... I'm surprised blizz didn't just c&d them |
| 21:51.34 | Sandwichman2448 | I know. I think it may be ironic. |
| 21:51.55 | Ragestorm | c&d orders do take time |
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| 21:53.29 | FullDolphinX | GAH! What'd i miss? |
| 21:53.33 | FullDolphinX | *I |
| 21:53.44 | FullDolphinX | C&D thing, right? |
| 21:53.52 | FullDolphinX | Well, they did. |
| 21:54.07 | FullDolphinX | Sorta. |
| 21:54.32 | FullDolphinX | http://wotlk.wikidot.com/forum/t-68620/statement-about-the-recent-deleting-editing-of-alpha-content |
| 21:54.45 | Kirkburn | This is fantastic - http://www.garrysmod.com/?dont_buff_my_pylon=488&Epic_Rube_Goldberg |
| 21:54.47 | FullDolphinX | May not be a true c&d. |
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| 21:56.00 | Bagginsww | sandwich I posted |
| 21:56.13 | FullDolphinX | What? On the doomed admin thing? |
| 21:57.36 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 21:57.41 | Jimdinventor | Nice machine. Better than Jeff Goldberg (but only just). |
| 21:57.42 | Bagginsww | poor sandwich :p |
| 21:58.06 | FullDolphinX | Oh. Thank you (emphasis). I was watching the Rube. |
| 21:59.13 | Ragestorm | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template%3AMain_characters&diff=1416697&oldid=1377186 |
| 21:59.29 | Ragestorm | Main characters? |
| 22:00.08 | FullDolphinX | Heh. Kicked the ball. |
| 22:00.11 | *** part/#wowwiki FullDolphinX (n=cyrillpi@97.101.231.142) |
| 22:05.04 | Fisker- | http://steamcommunity.com/id/Fisker/stats/TF2?tab=achievements |
| 22:10.15 | g0urra | "BarbeQueQ |
| 22:10.16 | g0urra | Cause a dominated player to leave the server. " |
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| 22:17.39 | g0urra | Database rror |
| 22:17.42 | g0urra | error* |
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| 22:31.49 | pcj | oh he's back |
| 22:34.09 | pcj | kirkburn can you or another admin address http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:ProblemReports/11080 |
| 22:34.22 | pcj | i've warned him on his page but he is still being weird about it |
| 22:36.40 | kd3 | bah, the {{#imagelink}} extension is annoying compared to the <imagelink> one... it mandates a <p> tag that I can't figure out how to get rid of. {{cost}}'s broken pretty badly |
| 22:37.23 | pcj | {{cost}}? |
| 22:37.23 | Dotted | pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:cost |
| 22:37.30 | kd3 | on my test wiki |
| 22:38.10 | pcj | Well, if I could look at it, maybe I could help |
| 22:38.18 | Bagginsww | oh gourra I'm going to move that citation out past the "with the old god's help" |
| 22:38.38 | Bagginsww | so that its more clear that the other source is less specific |
| 22:38.45 | Bagginsww | on that detail |
| 22:38.47 | kd3 | sec, lemme open up my firewall |
| 22:39.43 | Bagginsww | well I would if it wasn't locked :p |
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| 22:50.02 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.16 | pcj | The requested URL /wiki was not found on this server. |
| 22:50.26 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.28 | kd3 | pokes apache some more |
| 22:51.00 | pcj | i can haz ddos attack? |
| 22:52.35 | pcj | well i found the problem |
| 22:52.43 | pcj | {{cost}} doesn't even use {{#imagelink}} |
| 22:52.43 | Dotted | pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:cost |
| 22:52.48 | kd3 | go back a few revisions |
| 22:53.30 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.59 | kd3 | which is now the current revision |
| 22:55.49 | pcj | wow, that's messed up |
| 22:56.12 | kd3 | ya. I may have to hack around with the php itself to see if I can get rid of the <p></p> nonsense |
| 22:58.20 | kd3 | you should have edit permissions. if you have any ideas, feel free |
| 23:03.17 | pcj | lol kd3 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:ImageLink#Two_imagelinks_on_the_same_line |
| 23:03.20 | pcj | ugh |
| 23:03.51 | kd3 | kuso |
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| 23:07.27 | kd3 | whee, food |
| 23:10.43 | Ragestorm | Bagginww, nice reconcile on Naga |
| 23:11.06 | Ragestorm | Or was that g0urra? |
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| 23:11.34 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Naga&diff=1416557&oldid=1416036 |
| 23:12.16 | g0urra | All cites from RP books are from Baggins :P |
| 23:13.03 | Bagginsww | we discussed it yesterday actually |
| 23:13.08 | Bagginsww | or the day before :p |
| 23:13.10 | g0urra | anyway, I'm off for the weekend, see you on sunday |
| 23:14.18 | Bagginsww | enjoy |
| 23:14.45 | Ragestorm | have fun |
| 23:14.53 | Ragestorm | Oh, he's gone |
| 23:15.06 | Ragestorm | Bagginsww, the Sundering reference is explicit |
| 23:15.26 | Ragestorm | Although using the Well as a medium makes sense |
| 23:15.46 | Bagginsww | that's the problem both sources are explicity, so we take the middle ground |
| 23:16.11 | Bagginsww | rpg version is based on TFT info I think |
| 23:16.19 | Bagginsww | but highly expanded |
| 23:17.24 | Bagginsww | wonders if the ingame quests state anything tooo |
| 23:17.26 | Bagginsww | *too |
| 23:17.33 | Bagginsww | or the books |
| 23:18.01 | Ragestorm | Sundering expanded upon what was mentioned in Terror of the Tides |
| 23:18.06 | Ragestorm | Vashj never went into detai |
| 23:18.10 | Ragestorm | *detail |
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| 23:18.58 | Ragestorm | Interestingly, the Warcraft Encyclopedia implies that Azshara's survival isn't confirmed |
| 23:20.17 | Bagginsww | that's been like that since that article was written |
| 23:21.24 | Bagginsww | even brann discusses things in a maybe maybe not way, most of the time. |
| 23:21.42 | Bagginsww | at least for relgious debates ;P |
| 23:22.08 | Bagginsww | Somehow, against all odds, Queen Azshara and her Highborne elite managed to survive the ordeal. Tortured and twisted by the powers they had released, Azshara and her followers were dragged down beneath the raging sea by the Well's implosion. Cursed - transformed - they took on new shapes and became the hateful serpentine naga. Azshara herself expanded with hate and rage, becoming a massive monstrosity, reflecting the wickedness an |
| 23:22.08 | Bagginsww | d malice that had always hidden within her core |
| 23:22.15 | Bagginsww | from the ingame book |
| 23:22.34 | Bagginsww | or History of Waracraft site as its called |
| 23:23.09 | Bagginsww | so that's probably the original source of the "well's energies" idea |
| 23:24.21 | Bagginsww | mind you as far as I know all sources call the mutations "a curse" |
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| 23:26.09 | Bagginsww | naga article on encclopyedia leaves it incredibly vague |
| 23:26.28 | Bagginsww | not even referencing any old gods involvment... |
| 23:26.31 | Ragestorm | Odd, that |
| 23:26.55 | Bagginsww | generally speaking we are discussing source that were published after Sund |
| 23:27.13 | Bagginsww | I mean most of those rpg citations and the encyclopedia |
| 23:27.25 | Bagginsww | MoM was definitely published before sundering |
| 23:27.39 | Bagginsww | as weas Alliance & Horde compendium as far as I know |
| 23:28.35 | Bagginsww | on the other hand what I read in the book one possible interpretatin was that Old Gods had predicted that they would be mutated, and insured that htey would be in the right lace to be mutated :p |
| 23:28.40 | Bagginsww | *in Sundering |
| 23:28.59 | Bagginsww | but I"m going by google and amazon book seraches since I don't have access to the books right now |
| 23:29.21 | Bagginsww | its implied that htey are still mutating today |
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| 23:30.25 | Bagginsww | oh |
| 23:30.27 | Bagginsww | guess what |
| 23:30.34 | Bagginsww | the encyclopedi aidsucses the well mutations too |
| 23:30.51 | Bagginsww | As it was driven downward into the sea, the Well of Eternity continued to collapse in on itself and was finally obliterated. Its violent destruction has left behind a deep trench on the ocean floor that reaches all the way to the planet's molten core. To this day that core remains exposed and heats the ocean's cold waters. The magical energies that still emanate from the trench have caused monstrous mutations in all nearby living |
| 23:30.51 | Bagginsww | things. |
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| 23:42.25 | Ragestorm | Bagginsww, quadruple referencing it is useless |
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| 23:42.39 | Bagginsww | it gives people a chance to go to to those sources |
| 23:42.42 | Bagginsww | to check for themselves |
| 23:42.49 | Bagginsww | not everyone has access to every source |
| 23:43.38 | Ragestorm | Tomorrow I'll tell Kirkburn to give DuTempte a new poll: How many people go and check WoWWiki's references for themselves |
| 23:44.35 | Bagginsww | hah hah |
| 23:45.07 | Bagginsww | eh just combined all the references into one reflist entry |
| 23:46.40 | Bagginsww | but you have to admit if its the rpg reference only there are "people" that automatically question it :p |
| 23:47.25 | Ragestorm | You mean everyone but you? :D |
| 23:47.36 | Bagginsww | don't say everyone |
| 23:47.56 | Bagginsww | unless you can cite that |
| 23:48.03 | Ragestorm | ROFL |
| 23:48.12 | Bagginsww | you need to qualify your accusations |
| 23:48.28 | kd3 | ponders |
| 23:48.32 | kd3 | scrolls up |
| 23:48.41 | Ragestorm | Yet another poll |
| 23:49.06 | Bagginsww | but ya i'm hardly the only one that's added rpg information, or the only one that discusses it |
| 23:49.16 | Bagginsww | or the only one that defends it |
| 23:49.33 | Bagginsww | Blizzared does enough of a job on that on their own |
| 23:49.50 | Bagginsww | but generally speaking there is usally only one or two people that complains |
| 23:49.51 | Ragestorm | Yes, but you're the only WoWWikian who consistently does it. |
| 23:49.57 | Bagginsww | and a handful that defends them |
| 23:50.08 | Ragestorm | The rest of us agree with you because we don't disagree. |
| 23:50.21 | Bagginsww | you haven't seen the arguements on WoWforums have you? |
| 23:50.30 | Bagginsww | the official forums |
| 23:50.39 | Ragestorm | No, I tend to stay away places where scum gather. |
| 23:50.41 | Bagginsww | if you have you eyes set on WoWWiki alone... |
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| 23:50.59 | Kirochi | hi |
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| 23:51.08 | Kirochi | ah |
| 23:51.11 | Bagginsww | but ya don't kid yourself WoWWiki probably isn't visited by every WoW fan. |
| 23:51.12 | Kirochi | kirkburn sleeps |
| 23:51.15 | Kirochi | damn |
| 23:51.22 | Bagginsww | we probably aren't the majority of fans either |
| 23:51.32 | Kirochi | he wanted me to send him a bug screenshot |
| 23:51.41 | Bagginsww | so if you say "everybody" you'd be hard pressed to prove that |
| 23:51.42 | Kirochi | who's gonna be up when he wakes up? |
| 23:51.45 | Bagginsww | especially with a poll |
| 23:51.46 | Ragestorm | Remind me to give you a lesson in Sarcasm |
| 23:51.57 | Bagginsww | ;) |
| 23:52.18 | Kirochi | I am completely drunk at the moment so I need someone to handle me |
| 23:52.31 | Kirochi | who can give kirk the screenshot he wants to see? |
| 23:52.53 | Ragestorm | You can, just e-mail him |
| 23:53.29 | Kirochi | dunno his addess, duh |
| 23:53.33 | Kirochi | +r |
| 23:53.43 | Ragestorm | It's on his usertalk |
| 23:53.48 | Ragestorm | I think |
| 23:53.57 | Kirochi | uh oh |
| 23:53.58 | Kirochi | true that |
| 23:54.17 | Kirochi | I opened the IRC window with the irc link on this very same page :'( |
| 23:54.20 | Kirochi | I apologize |
| 23:54.59 | Kirochi | soo |
| 23:55.26 | Kirochi | My guild master would like to replace the silvermoon idea with the oshu'gun starship |
| 23:55.48 | Kirochi | too bad, the elven capital is an awesome place |
| 23:56.08 | Kirochi | though I have nothing but disrespect towards all elves |
| 23:57.46 | Ragestorm | Oshu'gun has some nice history. |
| 23:57.51 | Kirochi | yep |
| 23:57.53 | Ragestorm | It's a spaceship, remember? |
| 23:58.14 | Kirochi | I'd written "starship" a few lines top of this one |
| 23:58.26 | Bagginsww | ahh ragestorm did you read the end of hte naga article in the characteristics and abilities section? |
| 23:58.31 | Kirochi | I do remember Oshu'gun's history |
| 23:58.54 | Kirochi | it was the small vessel that gathered the draenei on Argus and set off to another world |
| 23:58.55 | Bagginsww | Charac beneath the site of the original Well of Eternity. Thus, although the Well itself no longer exists, the naga have experienced a wide range of mutations due to the Well's residual energies. |
| 23:59.07 | Kirochi | (I've read RotH in English :D ) |
