| 00:01.02 | Bagginsww | hmm looks like someone removed the citations and the differences... :p |
| 00:01.36 | Bagginsww | removed the first section |
| 00:01.41 | Bagginsww | that had both accounts |
| 00:02.05 | Bagginsww | grrr.... |
| 00:02.10 | Ragestorm | The only person editing demon today was you |
| 00:02.19 | Bagginsww | uh it was rolandius |
| 00:02.22 | Bagginsww | earlier |
| 00:02.28 | Bagginsww | and I'm talking about on sargeras article |
| 00:02.32 | Bagginsww | he removed alot of content |
| 00:02.39 | Ragestorm | That was me. |
| 00:02.46 | Bagginsww | why? |
| 00:03.07 | Ragestorm | First off, I was trying to purge the "other legends" implication |
| 00:03.16 | Bagginsww | we do have our writing policy lore |
| 00:03.25 | Ragestorm | Second, I didn't see any citations. |
| 00:03.25 | Bagginsww | and both accoutns are given on website :p |
| 00:03.29 | Bagginsww | it had citations.. |
| 00:03.34 | Bagginsww | rolandius must have removed them |
| 00:03.53 | Bagginsww | I was very carefule about that when I made that section... |
| 00:04.44 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Sargeras&oldid=1379251 |
| 00:04.48 | Bagginsww | that's the older post |
| 00:04.52 | Bagginsww | before rolandius got to it |
| 00:05.10 | Ragestorm | Ah, only citations in the part I removed were the ones fron S&L. |
| 00:05.50 | Bagginsww | the shadows and light ones were extensions to the warcraft III/History of Warcraft accoutn |
| 00:06.03 | Ragestorm | " but Sargeras has created countless demons over the millennia so as to bolster the ranks of his destructive Legion." |
| 00:06.29 | Bagginsww | that's stated in the manual of monsters too |
| 00:06.32 | Ragestorm | That doesn't mean he created the idea, that just means that he supplemented them like a warcraft version of the Xel'naga. |
| 00:06.55 | Bagginsww | ok i'm confused which are you referring to s&L? |
| 00:07.14 | Bagginsww | or the second section? |
| 00:07.55 | Ragestorm | I'm referring to the line from the Warcraft Encyclopedia I quoted above. |
| 00:08.13 | Bagginsww | ok the next line includes; |
| 00:08.34 | Bagginsww | gotta find the other article |
| 00:08.38 | Ragestorm | Oh, now I see it. |
| 00:09.00 | Bagginsww | eredar the first race |
| 00:09.22 | Ragestorm | "However, Sargeras was not the sole creator of demons, and there are demons that have no affiliation with the Legion. Again, Illidan is an example of both of these exceptions." |
| 00:09.29 | Bagginsww | I mean he could ahve made demonic beasts but eh I don't really care about hat :p |
| 00:09.46 | Ragestorm | The above quite is from the demon article in the same source. |
| 00:09.51 | Ragestorm | *quote |
| 00:09.52 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 00:10.05 | Bagginsww | well I did have a reference at one point that he didn't make all the demons |
| 00:10.09 | Bagginsww | but someone must have removed that |
| 00:10.20 | Bagginsww | but its implied that he made most of them |
| 00:10.36 | Ragestorm | That's fine, that makes sense. |
| 00:10.51 | Ragestorm | But they didn't really retcon it, just poorly phrased it. |
| 00:10.59 | Bagginsww | and rpg says all demons were once mortal, so those he didn't make were changed by other forms |
| 00:11.00 | Ragestorm | And never updated it. |
| 00:11.12 | Ragestorm | Fel energy probably exists naturally. |
| 00:11.29 | Bagginsww | well the previous idea was he didn't make any demons but had them join him |
| 00:12.00 | Bagginsww | and manual of mosnters gives the impression that it was a one at a time affair, that he got his first demons |
| 00:12.22 | Bagginsww | hmm though its eems manual of monsters gives another idea |
| 00:13.35 | Bagginsww | that he he fought the demons, eredar, then llater picked them up, and they started creating more demons. So that would fit your interpretation |
| 00:15.29 | Ragestorm | huh? |
| 00:15.57 | Bagginsww | It is within the power of the eredar to create whole races of demons. They corrupt mortal species to make their minions. The greatest representatives of these species can bind others to their cause, as the eredar can, by offering the gift of their blood. The mystic bonds this process creates connect the various races of the Burning Legion |
| 00:16.19 | Bagginsww | that's from the manual of monsters |
| 00:16.26 | Ragestorm | Yeah, that works. |
| 00:16.27 | Bagginsww | that's after eredar joined the Legion. |
| 00:16.43 | Ragestorm | That's Kil'jaeden's entire original purpose. |
| 00:17.04 | Bagginsww | then it goes on |
| 00:17.09 | Bagginsww | I'll skip a bit |
| 00:17.37 | Bagginsww | oh you read the quote |
| 00:17.40 | Bagginsww | its on the demon page |
| 00:17.47 | Bagginsww | demons were evil once, blah blah |
| 00:17.59 | foxlit | "now they're good, ridding the world of naaru!" |
| 00:18.04 | Bagginsww | transformed by their conversion into |
| 00:18.08 | Bagginsww | demons blah blah |
| 00:18.54 | Ragestorm | Foxlit, I do not appreciate that. |
| 00:19.15 | foxlit | Oh? |
| 00:19.24 | Ragestorm | I have forbidden the prediction of absurd retcons |
| 00:19.50 | Ragestorm | <assumes a sagely posture> |
| 00:19.52 | foxlit | Remember that that has no effect outside of your head :) |
| 00:20.23 | Ragestorm | No, it does, I ban anyone who tries it. :D |
| 00:21.19 | Ragestorm | Something tells me you'll find a way to get around me, though. |
| 00:21.21 | foxlit | from your head? :) |
| 00:22.03 | foxlit | "But Illidan had cake, so they all became friends and lived happily ever after in Outlands." |
| 00:22.11 | foxlit | Could make a fortune on those snippets! |
| 00:22.37 | Ragestorm | Now you're just trying to annoy me. |
| 00:22.52 | Jimdinventor | By gum, I think I've got it. :-) Seal of Light and Mortal Strike should be correct, with the sandbox changes g0urra and I were working on. |
| 00:22.54 | Bagginsww | the cake is a lie |
| 00:23.07 | foxlit | See, that's how the story continues |
| 00:24.02 | foxlit | Illidan ran out of cake, so they all decided to kill him. |
| 00:24.04 | foxlit | With forks. |
| 00:26.13 | Bagginsww | But there's no sense crying |
| 00:26.13 | Bagginsww | over every mistake. |
| 00:26.13 | Bagginsww | You just keep on trying |
| 00:26.13 | Bagginsww | till you run out of cake. |
| 00:26.37 | Bagginsww | Illidan singing "still alive" |
| 00:26.57 | Bagginsww | I'm not even angry. |
| 00:26.57 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.57 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.57 | Bagginsww | And killed me. |
| 00:26.57 | Bagginsww | And tore me to pieces. |
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| 00:29.05 | Ragestorm | Sometimes, I have to be the bastard. |
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| 00:30.11 | Ragestorm | :D |
| 00:30.53 | Bagginsww | I feel fantastic and I'm still alive while your dying I'll still be alive and when your dead I'll still be alive :p...... You have seen portal right? |
| 00:31.58 | Bagginsww | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RthZgszykLs |
| 00:38.05 | Bagginsww | well talk to you all later |
| 00:38.22 | Bagginsww | I'm going to enjoy the weather. |
| 00:45.40 | Ragestorm | Oh, you and your tropical climates |
| 00:47.16 | Keolah | "Seen"? Don't you mean "played"? :p |
| 00:47.42 | Keolah | It's a game, not a movie ;p |
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| 01:58.04 | Bagginsww | rolandius again... |
| 01:58.25 | kd3 | just break out the lart |
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| 02:01.00 | Ragestorm | What now? I've only just sorted out the hyphen issue. |
| 02:01.31 | Bagginsww | the other issue |
| 02:01.36 | Bagginsww | under the hyphen thing... |
| 02:02.23 | Ragestorm | He blew up at you. You're an admin, get used to it. |
| 02:03.07 | Ragestorm | Is it even possible to remove someone's edit from a history? |
| 02:03.19 | pcj | theoretically yes |
| 02:03.30 | Bagginsww | well I wouldn't do it |
| 02:03.34 | Ragestorm | But practically? |
| 02:04.05 | Ragestorm | And did you? |
| 02:04.56 | Bagginsww | nope |
| 02:05.00 | Bagginsww | just reverted |
| 02:06.06 | Ragestorm | I've noticed a few times that some edits I made didn't get saved. Maybe he navigated away before the page was saved or something. |
| 02:06.31 | Ragestorm | Basically, how could this have happened? I assume that something like this needs concious effort? |
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| 02:10.53 | Bagginsww | maybe he has an astigmatism :p |
| 02:11.17 | Ragestorm | I have two. |
| 02:11.28 | Ragestorm | I don't go losing my old edits. |
| 02:11.44 | Ragestorm | Well, as a result of my ADHD, not my astigmatism, |
| 02:11.52 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 02:12.13 | Bagginsww | well I was talking about him completey overlooking "The wyverns, who share a common ancestry with both dragons and gryphons" |
| 02:12.26 | Ragestorm | Yes, I read it before I blacked out. |
| 02:12.54 | Bagginsww | its not like that's hard to read... its in a 4 sentence paragraph :p |
| 02:14.01 | Ragestorm | I'm not fond of his arguements. Logical enough, but missing something. |
| 02:14.15 | Ragestorm | Like most of Blizzard's novels. |
| 02:16.14 | Bagginsww | gg |
| 02:16.20 | Bagginsww | it never said parents |
| 02:16.23 | Bagginsww | it was adirect quote |
| 02:16.27 | Bagginsww | from the manual |
| 02:16.34 | Bagginsww | now he's argueing ... |
| 02:16.58 | Ragestorm | Wait for him to respond. |
| 02:17.27 | kd3 | looks for some popcorn |
| 02:17.54 | Ragestorm | He gave me a satisfactory answer for the Hyphen issue, even by my standards. |
| 02:18.33 | Ragestorm | <RageBeamEyes heat up kd3's popcorn> |
| 02:19.45 | Bagginsww | well ya runnon sentences can be an issue |
| 02:20.01 | Bagginsww | however splitting up the setences into several can look better :p |
| 02:20.17 | Ragestorm | That's what I told him |
| 02:20.17 | Bagginsww | generally speaking I try to do way with hyphanted text altogether |
| 02:20.45 | Ragestorm | Do you want to clean up his hyphens, then or should I? |
| 02:20.51 | Bagginsww | there are some articles in Dark FActions with some terrible hyphen work... |
| 02:20.56 | Ragestorm | He's been compliant |
| 02:21.00 | Bagginsww | it makes the articles very hard to follow |
| 02:21.12 | Bagginsww | I'll clean them up as I see them I suppose |
| 02:21.19 | Bagginsww | but we could both do that |
| 02:21.37 | Bagginsww | also double hyphen vs a single hyphen? |
| 02:21.40 | Bagginsww | what's the difference? |
| 02:21.41 | Ragestorm | I'll get onto it tomorrow. I think I might have finnally drilled the in-universething into him |
| 02:21.50 | Ragestorm | I've no idea. |
| 02:21.51 | Bagginsww | besides one looking even worse than the other "double" |
| 02:22.12 | Bagginsww | most books I read use a single hyphen |
| 02:22.25 | Bagginsww | I mean saying In----game |
| 02:22.28 | Bagginsww | would just be weird |
| 02:22.29 | Ragestorm | Pick up the Chicago Manual of Style, |
| 02:23.17 | Ragestorm | OOO! he's responded! |
| 02:23.40 | Ragestorm | My gods, is this what we've been reduced to? :O |
| 02:24.28 | Bagginsww | ok I can check that one |
| 02:24.31 | Bagginsww | history is there |
| 02:24.33 | Bagginsww | page history |
| 02:27.27 | Bagginsww | it was yesterday btw |
| 02:28.32 | Ragestorm | Wyvern hasn't been edited since the 15th. |
| 02:29.07 | Bagginsww | hmm they were working on changing the skin? that wouldn't have done anything? |
| 02:30.06 | Ragestorm | Ok, this is getting weird. |
| 02:30.20 | Bagginsww | though it probably was the 15th... everything is kinda blending together... |
| 02:31.02 | Bagginsww | ahh well I suppose I could see if the rpg made a quote like he said, and see if he removed that :p |
| 02:31.11 | Bagginsww | there really isn't that many wyvern sources... |
| 02:31.33 | Bagginsww | so I doubt there is anything related |
| 02:31.40 | Ragestorm | Either his memory is faulty, he's lying, or the history's been tampered with. |
| 02:32.16 | Bagginsww | I'd think the first most likely... |
| 02:32.25 | Ragestorm | yes, probably |
| 02:32.50 | Bagginsww | unless he's incredibly at acting... |
| 02:33.18 | pcj | you guys need to have different length of nicks |
| 02:33.30 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 02:33.32 | pcj | i keep having to look at who's talking |
| 02:35.04 | Ragestorm | I think we were once accused of being sock puppets of each other. |
| 02:35.33 | Bagginsww | ya something had to have disappeared I caught the edit because I'm pretty sure he left a note, saying 'blah blah state that blah blah" |
| 02:35.41 | Bagginsww | anything in the talk page? |
| 02:36.15 | Bagginsww | nothing... |
| 02:36.39 | Ragestorm | hasn't been discussed since October. |
| 02:37.15 | Ragestorm | Oh. Great. Gods |
| 02:37.32 | Bagginsww | I checked gryphon to make sure it wasn't in some similar mount page :p nothing there. Although I don't think I'd make that mistake... |
| 02:37.46 | Ragestorm | Have you read his response? |
| 02:38.01 | Ragestorm | I suggest we obliterate that cesspit! |
| 02:38.10 | Bagginsww | loading |
| 02:38.58 | Bagginsww | ok that makes more sense |
| 02:39.08 | Bagginsww | I was editing removing alot of junk |
| 02:39.17 | Bagginsww | at the time he was modifing things |
| 02:39.44 | Ragestorm | That page has grown far beyond acceptable sanity limits. |
| 02:40.00 | Bagginsww | but checking the history to make sure there |
| 02:40.14 | Bagginsww | I know :p |
| 02:40.30 | Bagginsww | at least people aren't editing it as much as they used to when it was freely open :p |
| 02:40.54 | Ragestorm | Oh, that reminds me. I think it's safe to finally edit the blood elf and draenei controversy pages. |
| 02:41.01 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Future_race_ideas&action=history |
| 02:41.06 | Ragestorm | Make them more encyclopedia and a bit less... |
| 02:41.10 | Ragestorm | Pathetic? |
| 02:41.13 | Bagginsww | hah hah |
| 02:42.28 | Ragestorm | Yes. I've always held that we should have a No Whining policy. |
| 02:42.50 | Ragestorm | At least people have finally accepted that Illidan is dead. |
| 02:45.48 | Fisker- | fail Bagginsww |
| 02:45.49 | Fisker- | :( |
| 02:47.04 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 02:47.35 | Fisker- | you don't get to lol |
| 02:47.57 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Rolandius#Citations |
| 02:48.44 | Bagginsww | also he might want to look up what ancestry means :p |
| 02:48.55 | Bagginsww | it has to do with breeding :p |
| 02:57.23 | Ragestorm | <bash head> |
| 02:58.13 | Bagginsww | <takes sleeping pills> |
| 02:58.46 | Lukian | sneaks into Bagginsww room :D |
| 02:59.03 | Bagginsww | umm... |
| 02:59.23 | Bagginsww | so lua it makes me amused somewhat :p |
| 02:59.35 | Bagginsww | its the hawaiian word for bathroom, I think |
| 02:59.52 | Bagginsww | or toilet |
| 02:59.56 | Bagginsww | not sure on the specifics |
| 03:00.42 | Bagginsww | and for those that didn't know pupus are apetizers |
| 03:01.43 | Ragestorm | 9.9 |
| 03:11.42 | Bagginsww | although I think rolandius needs to read things in a first grade level sometimes... |
| 03:11.53 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Rolandius#Citations |
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| 03:20.47 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Scout |
| 03:20.49 | Bagginsww | ... |
| 03:21.35 | Bagginsww | I didn't want to be too specific :p |
| 03:21.54 | Bagginsww | if I had explained its just a scout with lighter or less armor... |
| 03:22.02 | Bagginsww | he'd probably tried to create a page on it :p |
| 03:29.50 | Ragestorm | Does that count as a non-editorial discussion? |
| 03:31.41 | Bagginsww | the scout discussion? |
| 03:31.53 | Bagginsww | I don't know...? |
| 03:32.35 | Ragestorm | I've warned him about non-editorial discussions, but I'm not sure if he listened. |
| 03:34.01 | Bagginsww | I can tell you he doesn't :p |
| 03:34.38 | Ragestorm | Why did you give him an opening? |
| 03:34.43 | Bagginsww | granted its my fault :p |
| 03:34.48 | Bagginsww | well sometimes |
| 03:34.58 | Bagginsww | most of the time I ignore talk page posts |
| 03:35.00 | Ragestorm | He's being sarcastic, Baggins! |
| 03:35.13 | Ragestorm | That is my territory! |
| 03:35.26 | Ragestorm | Wow, I am sleep-deprived. |
| 03:36.10 | Bagginsww | lol me too :p |
| 03:37.12 | Bagginsww | some questions you just don't want to ask... |
| 03:37.28 | Bagginsww | like how did elune conceive Cenarius... |
| 03:37.33 | Bagginsww | I don't want to know |
| 03:37.46 | Bagginsww | I'm fine with just the knowledge that it happend |
| 03:37.47 | Ragestorm | Read a book of Greek mythology. |
| 03:38.01 | Bagginsww | well I remember a swan and zeuze |
| 03:38.03 | Bagginsww | *zeus |
| 03:38.11 | Ragestorm | Zeus was the swan. |
| 03:38.16 | Bagginsww | oh ya |
| 03:38.44 | Bagginsww | also didn't he change sex in some of the stories? |
| 03:38.49 | Bagginsww | and conceive himself? |
| 03:39.22 | Bagginsww | I mean have the babies of some other male. |
| 03:40.19 | Bagginsww | or am I mixing up another another god...? |
| 03:42.08 | Ragestorm | Not him. If Zeus wanted to sleep with a guy, he did it himself. |
| 03:42.45 | Bagginsww | ... |
| 03:42.53 | Ragestorm | Or as an eagle |
| 03:43.02 | Ragestorm | He was Greek. |
| 03:43.12 | Bagginsww | true |
| 03:43.39 | Bagginsww | pederasty was a common theme... from what I've read. |
| 03:44.51 | Ragestorm | It's a long and varied story. |
| 03:45.30 | Ragestorm | Mind you, even Zeus might have raised his eyebrows at the Elune/Malorne thing. |
| 03:46.39 | Bagginsww | hah hah |
| 03:47.02 | Ragestorm | But then again, Elune would accuse his shower of gold as being too extravagant. |
| 03:47.37 | Bagginsww | show of gold? |
| 03:48.52 | Ragestorm | Zeus impregnated Perseus's mother by appearing in her locked tower as a "shower of gold" |
| 03:49.18 | Bagginsww | weird |
| 03:52.37 | Ragestorm | Well, I'm going to get some sleep. Contrary to what Kirkburn|afk implies, it is biologically required for dealing with this site. |
| 03:54.55 | Ragestorm | Seriously, no strike from the shadows? Oh well. Good night and good luck. Keep the insanity to an acceptable level, I'll be back in about nine hours. |
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| 09:28.41 | Kirkburn | Hey g0urra |
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| 09:32.21 | Ose | how does {{urlencode}} work? |
| 09:33.23 | g0urra | {{urlencode:Silver Hand}} = Silver+Hand |
| 09:33.24 | Dotted | g0urra meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:urlencode:Silver_Hand |
| 09:33.39 | g0urra | slaps Dotted around a bit with a large molten giant |
| 09:33.54 | Dotted | wut? |
| 09:34.10 | g0urra | <g0urra> {{urlencode:Silver Hand}} = Silver+Hand |
| 09:34.10 | g0urra | <Dotted> g0urra meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:urlencode:Silver_Hand |
| 09:34.15 | Dotted | wut? |
| 09:35.02 | Dotted | or are you suggesting i should put all wowwiki's templates in my script so it doesnt fail >_>? |
| 09:36.05 | g0urra | wut? |
| 09:37.26 | Ose | what if spaces are represented by something other than a + in the url I want? |
| 09:37.57 | g0urra | then just type it out? |
| 09:38.08 | Ose | ... |
| 09:41.23 | g0urra | What url are you trying to urlencode then Ose |
| 09:55.05 | Kirkburn | Btw, we've got a lua syntax highlighter incoming |
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| 10:07.37 | HotRon | Hello |
| 10:08.08 | g0urra | Hello HotRon |
| 10:09.10 | g0urra | Grrr now Rolandius is adding random textures from WMV |
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| 10:09.52 | Bagginsww | rolandiius uploading wrath content now... |
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| 10:11.15 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 10:11.58 | g0urra | The raccoon? |
| 10:12.09 | Bagginsww | orca polar bear |
| 10:12.25 | Bagginsww | racoon is not in game |
| 10:12.31 | Bagginsww | so that's an issue... |
| 10:12.36 | Bagginsww | datamining |
| 10:13.04 | Bagginsww | I've got onto him enough, its someone else's turn.. :p |
| 10:14.49 | Bagginsww | ....reign deer... |
| 10:15.08 | Bagginsww | that's different than the metzen image hmm |
| 10:16.04 | Bagginsww | nah i guess its the same |
| 10:16.26 | Bagginsww | I falsely remembered metzen having a rudolph nose :p |
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| 10:17.04 | Bagginsww | although we already have a metzen image that's better than that white background version :p |
| 10:17.09 | g0urra | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=15664#screenshots:id=66083 |
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| 10:18.06 | g0urra | Frankly I'm tired of trying to clean up after the mess Rolandius does |
| 10:18.35 | Bagginsww | :( |
| 10:18.47 | Bagginsww | me too |
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| 10:19.28 | g0urra | He also added the texture for the chinese dragon... |
| 10:19.35 | Bagginsww | hmm |
| 10:19.49 | g0urra | That's it I'm putting him on WW:V |
| 10:19.51 | Bagginsww | that has been seen ingame in the chinese version :p |
| 10:20.02 | g0urra | ~_~ |
| 10:20.03 | infobot | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 10:20.30 | Bagginsww | but ya the other NDA stuff |
| 10:20.42 | Bagginsww | and dnp |
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| 10:21.28 | g0urra | He's basically posting datamined textures |
| 10:24.21 | Ose | whoa? |
| 10:24.27 | Ose | kirk, what's going on? |
| 10:24.46 | Ose | css doesn't load |
| 10:24.56 | Kirkburn | eh? |
| 10:25.40 | Bagginsww | ahh A "Knight of the Silver Hand" is a fancy title for "paladin"APG 134, and is the equivalent to the term "Blood Knight" for the blood elves.[citation needed] |
| 10:25.55 | Bagginsww | its technically in WoW |
| 10:26.16 | Bagginsww | paladins join the Blood Knights |
| 10:26.23 | Bagginsww | and paladins join the Knights of the Silver Hand |
| 10:27.06 | g0urra | But I wanted to join the Flowerpicker Clan :( |
| 10:27.35 | foxlit | "Black Lotus Scavanger" |
| 10:29.20 | g0urra | Mobat? 'the heck? |
| 10:30.39 | foxlit | I like this QT encode |
| 10:30.49 | foxlit | It went from "less than one minute" to "about 10 minutes" to "about 13 minutes" |
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| 10:32.15 | g0urra | Soon he's probably going to add "Body of Kathune" |
| 10:32.39 | Ose | nobody else is getting weird skin bug? |
| 10:34.21 | Kirkburn | Ose, need more details |
| 10:35.03 | Bagginsww | .... |
| 10:35.46 | Bagginsww | rolandius and his circular logic and fallacious reasoning :p |
| 10:35.58 | Ose | Kirkburn: http://bildr.no/image/215257.jpeg |
| 10:36.26 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Baby_Crocolisk.png |
| 10:36.27 | Bagginsww | ? |
| 10:36.46 | Bagginsww | I don't remember ever seeing one of those... |
| 10:37.36 | Bagginsww | weird |
| 10:39.43 | Kirkburn | Ose, haven't seen that at all |
| 10:39.49 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, yup, WotLK |
| 10:39.58 | Kirkburn | Ose, refresh help? |
| 10:40.12 | Bagginsww | kirkburn apparently its from a fishing quest |
| 10:40.16 | Bagginsww | already in game |
| 10:40.41 | Kirkburn | Oh yeah, d'og |
| 10:40.42 | Ose | cache refresh did |
| 10:40.48 | Kirkburn | *d'oh, it is in-game |
| 10:41.07 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Monaco.css ... can you tell me if spaces are missing on that page? |
| 10:41.15 | g0urra | god damn it |
| 10:41.21 | Kirkburn | e.g. "border:1pxsolid#ccc;" |
| 10:41.42 | g0urra | [[Chuck's Bucket]] |
| 10:41.43 | Dotted | g0urra meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Chuck's_Bucket |
| 10:44.46 | Kirkburn | Ose, ah, I just got something similar |
| 10:45.04 | Kirkburn | I think one of the servers must be timing out |
| 10:50.03 | Daedals | anyone else having wowwiki lag? |
| 10:50.55 | Daedals | every time I load a page, firefox gets stuck in "images.wikia.com read" or something, I have finnish localization so I dont know |
| 10:52.10 | Kirkburn | Sounds like a similar issue |
| 10:53.01 | Daedals | btw what is the lua pattern for "everything"? anyone knows? |
| 10:54.07 | foxlit | . |
| 10:54.39 | Daedals | ok ^ |
| 10:54.42 | Daedals | ^^ * |
| 10:55.07 | g0urra | Rolandius is taking the WMV pag eout of context.. |
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| 10:55.43 | g0urra | s/pag eout/page out/ |
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| 11:08.03 | Bagginsww | he takes everything out of context |
| 11:08.19 | Bagginsww | as kirkburn said yesterday, he uses alot of straw men... |
| 11:09.05 | Bagginsww | He won't say he's sorry, he has to argue to the bitter end :p |
| 11:09.25 | Bagginsww | find justification and all that :p |
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| 11:18.48 | Ose | g0urra: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Raidprogress/Dev better version? |
| 11:20.09 | Ose | see http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:The_United_Exiles_(Moonglade_EU) |
| 11:20.57 | Kalroth | For what it's worth, I'm not that fond of it |
| 11:21.03 | Kalroth | But I'm a bit biased, so .. :) |
| 11:23.38 | Kalroth | 1) The first column should be different from the rest, since it's the instance name and not a boss name |
| 11:23.40 | Camicio | yyeah |
| 11:24.03 | Kalroth | 2) The boss columns should be the same size, it'd make it much much easier to spot the progress |
| 11:26.04 | Kalroth | I coded this a while ago; http://serverprogression.elitism-guild.com/ - yes I know it's for multiple guilds and it's also two dimensional data (you can zoom in by clicking instance names) |
| 11:26.09 | g0urra | admins: http://www.wowwiki.com/Indenpendent |
| 11:31.16 | Bagginsww | so ya I completed Call of Duty 4 for DS its good |
| 11:31.46 | Kalroth | I knew it, Baggins is a gamer lamer! |
| 11:31.48 | Bagginsww | its very good considering its platform |
| 11:32.09 | Bagginsww | its a different than the pc version |
| 11:32.41 | Bagginsww | story follows a different set of characters |
| 11:32.56 | Bagginsww | the two game's stories interweave |
| 11:33.52 | Bagginsww | anyone who plays WoW is a gamer lamer ;) |
| 11:34.10 | Bagginsww | we are all gamers :p |
| 11:40.05 | g0urra | ffs M1330 |
| 11:40.57 | g0urra | oh well |
| 11:47.13 | Kalroth | Bagginsww: Lies! I play WoW and I'm not a gamer lamer! |
| 11:47.18 | Kalroth | Just ask uhmm, Kirkburn! |
| 11:47.31 | Bagginsww | you waste hours of your life |
| 11:47.44 | Bagginsww | ok days |
| 11:47.46 | Kirkburn | Damn right |
| 11:47.49 | Bagginsww | maybe yeras |
| 11:47.53 | Bagginsww | *years |
| 11:47.58 | Bagginsww | that is kinda lame |
| 11:48.07 | Bagginsww | from a health standpoint |
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| 11:58.04 | Bagginsww | oh right I need to bring up the decapitalizationof "clan" |
| 11:58.16 | Bagginsww | guuess I'll add something to the pump |
| 12:02.09 | g0urra | Bagginsww: http://www.wowwiki.com/Indenpendent |
| 12:02.43 | Bagginsww | ... |
| 12:04.26 | Bagginsww | Alright the pump page is veyr sluggish... |
| 12:06.59 | Bagginsww | eh I cna't evne type in there |
| 12:07.01 | Bagginsww | its too slow |
| 12:07.50 | Bagginsww | something about it is recking havic |
| 12:07.53 | g0urra | Why does Rolandius call making short dashes to long "grammar edits" |
| 12:09.59 | Bagginsww | tell him abou tit |
| 12:10.19 | Bagginsww | tell him that most books use short dashes :p |
| 12:10.34 | Bagginsww | its obvious he won't listen to me |
| 12:10.40 | Kirkburn | http://tinyurl.com/62tbuu :) |
| 12:11.16 | Ose | loool |
| 12:11.21 | g0urra | Um, why is Alliance categorized under Furbolgs |
| 12:11.39 | g0urra | "Categories: [...] | Furbolgs" |
| 12:11.40 | Bagginsww | they favor alliance, but that's abut it |
| 12:11.49 | Bagginsww | they are usually independent |
| 12:12.57 | g0urra | huh, stillpine furbolgs |
| 12:13.03 | g0urra | [[Stillpine] |
| 12:13.06 | g0urra | bleh |
| 12:14.16 | g0urra | Kirkburn: ?? |
| 12:14.28 | Kirkburn | What? |
| 12:14.43 | g0urra | ah, nvm, thought of another with double e in her name |
| 12:14.49 | g0urra | damn elves. |
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| 12:24.36 | g0urra | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=24324 :D |
| 12:26.32 | Ose | lol |
| 12:26.58 | Ose | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=24324#screenshots:id=68044 |
| 12:27.52 | Kirkburn | hehehe |
| 12:30.06 | Ose | whew is funnier to quest (67-): Shadowmoon or Netherstorm? |
| 12:30.09 | Ose | where* |
| 12:31.00 | Kirkburn | "funnier" is only used for humour |
| 12:31.08 | Kirkburn | You probably want "more enjoyable" |
| 12:31.18 | Kirkburn | In any case, Netherstorm personally |
| 12:31.19 | g0urra | "Less pain in the ass" |
| 12:33.05 | Ose | quests that involve humour is more enjoyable, yes? |
| 12:33.34 | Kirkburn | One hopes so. |
| 12:39.23 | Bagginsww | khttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#.22clans.22_and_.22tribes.22 |
| 12:41.31 | Ose | hmm... now i'm confused... |
| 12:42.28 | Ose | can anyone tell me why a lot of the rows on http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Raidprogress/Dev don't show whilst other do? |
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| 12:51.36 | foxlit | Any attempt to brew coffee with a teapot should result in the error code "418 I'm a teapot". |
| 12:52.17 | Ose | >.< |
| 12:52.47 | foxlit | also, your question is odd |
| 12:52.51 | foxlit | which rows do not show? |
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| 13:02.17 | Ose | BT and sunwell |
| 13:04.26 | Kalroth | they show here |
| 13:05.09 | foxlit | Your code has so many {{{}}} that you missed two |
| 13:05.09 | Kalroth | oh, now they don't |
| 13:05.09 | Kalroth | was a cache, sorry |
| 13:05.11 | foxlit | Good luck with that :P |
| 13:05.40 | Kalroth | You're making LISP proud, Ose! |
| 13:06.02 | foxlit | () have elegance, {} is just ugly! :) |
| 13:06.30 | Kalroth | () in limited amounts are |
| 13:06.31 | Camicio | [15:06:15] <@foxlit> () have elegance, {} is just ugly! :) this |
| 13:07.01 | Kalroth | In LISP you need 34 parentheses to add two numbers |
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| 13:13.49 | ralf-x_ | rofl |
| 13:15.18 | Kirkburn | http://www.halflife2.net/2008/06/18/pyro-update-details/ |
| 13:17.36 | Daedals | im making an addon, it currently shows repair npcs and ammunition vendors in the world map, what els should it show? |
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| 13:18.56 | Kirkburn | http://www.steampowered.com/pyro/?pw=presspreview :D |
| 13:19.22 | Kirkburn | Daedals, depends on how far you want it to exted |
| 13:19.32 | Kirkburn | You could have mailboxes, for example |
| 13:20.32 | Daedals | yeah, I just asked in #wowhead if I can search for mailboxes :D |
| 13:21.03 | Daedals | but seems that I can't :( |
| 13:21.03 | g0urra | Daedals: see #wowuidev |
| 13:21.15 | Daedals | oh |
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| 13:26.28 | g0urra | why is http://www.wowwiki.com/Zandalar_troll move protected? |
| 13:26.46 | Ose | foxlit: if you see what's wrong, can you fix it? |
| 13:26.47 | pcj | kirkburn anyway to turn the syntax highlighter off on a user basis |
| 13:27.14 | Ose | perhaps they dont want you to move it g0urra? |
| 13:27.18 | Kirkburn | Want to see more website design plagiarism? http://www.bbc.co.uk/ ... compare to http://www.rtl.hu/ and http://www.hrt.hr/ |
| 13:27.47 | Kirkburn | RTLs is ridiculously similar |
| 13:27.52 | g0urra | 22:56, 14 January 2007 Kirkburn (Talk | contribs) m (Protected "Zandalar Tribe": Popular page, move protected [move=sysop]) |
| 13:28.06 | Kirkburn | I was a little insane that day |
| 13:28.22 | Kirkburn | Removed |
| 13:28.36 | Kirkburn | Actually, we just didn't have the same protections Wikia affords us |
| 13:28.42 | Kirkburn | pcj ... ? |
| 13:28.42 | foxlit | Kirkburn, you have a website |
| 13:28.50 | foxlit | STOP PLAGIARIZING MY HTML! |
| 13:28.54 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 13:29.03 | pcj | it makes my JS look like a bag of skittles |
| 13:29.13 | foxlit | You clearly used a <html> tag. Know where you STOLE it from?! ME! |
| 13:29.23 | Kirkburn | pcj, and that's a bad thing? ;) |
| 13:29.34 | pcj | it is since i can't read it |
| 13:29.43 | Kirkburn | Which page? |
| 13:29.49 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Pcj/tooltip.js |
| 13:30.22 | Kirkburn | I'd recommend changing the <pre> background to white |
| 13:30.40 | Kirkburn | Looks fairly good that way |
| 13:30.50 | pcj | Probably |
| 13:30.55 | foxlit | White background on an otherwise black site? |
| 13:31.03 | Kirkburn | There's a request in to make sure the extension is fully updated |
| 13:31.04 | foxlit | pcj: add those span classes to your stylesheet? |
| 13:31.19 | Kirkburn | It's js, unfortunately, can't override |
| 13:31.19 | foxlit | or just kill them all |
| 13:31.27 | foxlit | pre span {color: white !important} |
| 13:31.46 | pcj | It's annoying that I should have to do it when it looks bad for everyone |
| 13:31.58 | ralf-x_ | pre span {background-color: white !important} |
| 13:32.11 | Kirkburn | S'why I've got a note on the VP to ask when people will object if <pre> goes back to a white bg |
| 13:32.12 | foxlit | urgh! |
| 13:32.15 | ralf-x_ | ;) |
| 13:32.22 | foxlit | that'd result in white highlights |
| 13:32.30 | Kirkburn | That way we can start converting the site's lua to be highlighted |
| 13:33.03 | foxlit | but kirk, "the colors are predefined" is BS |
| 13:33.08 | Kirkburn | And xml |
| 13:33.24 | pcj | Because the site has so much xml |
| 13:33.30 | Kirkburn | FrameXML, pcj |
| 13:33.37 | foxlit | Because we care so much about highlighting! |
| 13:33.38 | Kirkburn | And a hell of a lot of Lua |
| 13:33.56 | Kirkburn | Yes, addon authors would probably appreciate it |
| 13:34.01 | foxlit | I'm an addon author |
| 13:34.08 | Kirkburn | But do you speak for all of them? |
| 13:34.12 | foxlit | I speak for me |
| 13:34.16 | foxlit | Highlighting code on wiki is pointless |
| 13:34.33 | foxlit | Setting a white background on those rare blocks of pre would clash with the rest of the website. |
| 13:34.46 | foxlit | Minimal benefit, annoying design... where do I sign up? |
| 13:35.09 | Kirkburn | Yes, I can turn it off if that's the majority view |
| 13:35.23 | Kirkburn | However, say that on the VP topic |
| 13:36.02 | foxlit | Where did you get "The colours are predefined" from? |
| 13:36.09 | Kirkburn | From the extension itself |
| 13:36.28 | Kirkburn | The colours are indeed predefined, and created via JS |
| 13:36.33 | foxlit | "Since r22246, you can override the colors using [[MediaWiki:GeSHi.css]]." |
| 13:36.50 | Kirkburn | Ah, that's cool |
| 13:37.10 | foxlit | They're also pretty standard spans |
| 13:37.18 | Kirkburn | Aye, but I tried that method |
| 13:37.31 | Kirkburn | The JS is loaded after that CSS |
| 13:38.22 | Kirkburn | Where did you find that notice, foxlit? |
| 13:38.31 | foxlit | From the extension itself |
| 13:38.48 | Kirkburn | :/ ... I'm looking at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi |
| 13:39.01 | foxlit | CTRL+F "Since" |
| 13:39.12 | pcj | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi#Parameters |
| 13:39.52 | Kirkburn | Ah, wow, hidden |
| 13:40.07 | Kirkburn | Shall have to take a look |
| 13:40.28 | Kirkburn | Thanks |
| 13:42.07 | Bagginsww | gourra, now I understand what your intent is |
| 13:42.26 | Bagginsww | but I think the Zandalar as a race is more important than their nature as a tribe |
| 13:42.43 | Bagginsww | I'd recommend keeping the article on Zandalar trolls |
| 13:42.46 | Bagginsww | rather than tribe |
| 13:42.57 | Bagginsww | and make note of the tribal information in it |
| 13:43.12 | Bagginsww | similar ato what we did with Sandfury, sand, desert troll info |
| 13:44.56 | Bagginsww | i'll also be able to expand the article |
| 13:44.59 | Bagginsww | with the rpg info |
| 13:44.59 | Bagginsww | too |
| 13:45.05 | Bagginsww | dark factions |
| 13:45.07 | Bagginsww | later |
| 13:45.16 | Bagginsww | although you might want to keep game mechanics seperate :p |
| 13:45.23 | Bagginsww | ingame faction :p |
| 13:45.24 | Ragestorm | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:45.28 | Bagginsww | because its alot of info |
| 13:45.38 | Bagginsww | then maybe seperate the pages again :p |
| 13:45.44 | Ragestorm | Don't you DARE. |
| 13:45.54 | pcj | http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080618071857.swjey1c6&show_article=1 |
| 13:45.56 | Bagginsww | "that's what blizzard has it" lawl |
| 13:46.02 | Bagginsww | blizzard has it as alot of things :p |
| 13:46.10 | Ragestorm | Exodar draenei is nothing but a list of stats. |
| 13:46.22 | Bagginsww | ingame quests and talk you see them listed as both Zandalar trolls and tribe :p |
| 13:46.45 | Ragestorm | Fine, just ignore me as usual. |
| 13:46.45 | pcj | http://www.variety.com/VR1117987606.html |
| 13:47.06 | Bagginsww | well ragestorm I had it (playable) |
| 13:47.11 | Bagginsww | because it was mostly a list of stats |
| 13:47.32 | Bagginsww | and I couldn't see anything largely different between the and other draenei besides a starting location LOL |
| 13:47.33 | Ragestorm | The title is neither here nor there. |
| 13:47.59 | Ragestorm | Well, it might be worth noting that the Exodar faction is under Velen's direct guidance. |
| 13:48.15 | Ragestorm | The Shattrath ones have more contact with the naaru. |
| 13:48.25 | pcj | http://www.local6.com/news/16622891/detail.html |
| 13:48.27 | Bagginsww | ok it is called exodar faction in game? that's a point |
| 13:49.19 | g0urra | Maybe split Exodar to "Exodar (faction)" and "Exodar (spaceship)" ;o |
| 13:49.50 | g0urra | Yes, I'm just kidding. |
| 13:49.56 | Bagginsww | *that's a good point ragestorm |
| 13:50.04 | pcj | http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/betterplanet/2008/06/17/rotten-tomatoes-caused-by-climate-change/ |
| 13:50.07 | pcj | lol |
| 13:50.37 | Ragestorm | Err... I don't think so, I meant faction in a general sense, not a game sense. |
| 13:50.53 | Bagginsww | although there was discussion of simply calling all the playable race articles by race (playable) to make them all conform to the same standard :p |
| 13:51.05 | Ragestorm | I know, I disagreed. |
| 13:51.15 | g0urra | 'the hell, I'm flying Silvermoon -> Isle of Quel'danas -> Ghostlands |
| 13:51.17 | Bagginsww | I'm not going to push you on that |
| 13:51.21 | Bagginsww | not important to me |
| 13:51.28 | g0urra | Stupid bats |
| 13:51.55 | Bagginsww | remind me what the faction names were for alliance again? |
| 13:51.56 | Ragestorm | I'm still not convinced about the split, but at least it hasn't been taken too far. |
| 13:52.24 | Ragestorm | Exodar draenei, Stormwind human, Ironforge Dwarf? |
| 13:52.25 | Bagginsww | its mostly to keep game mechanics seperated out... not a lore decision |
| 13:52.52 | Ragestorm | In that case, consider reallocation the playable races temple. |
| 13:52.56 | Ragestorm | *template |
| 13:53.07 | Bagginsww | I'd had initially split stormwind human out for lore considerations |
| 13:53.10 | Ragestorm | *reallocating |
| 13:53.33 | Bagginsww | since the rpg lore was about every human, and the MMO was specifically referring to citizens of Stormwind |
| 13:53.46 | Bagginsww | and someone got tetchy on the issue |
| 13:53.52 | Ragestorm | Right, and the others? |
| 13:54.03 | Ragestorm | Good grief, keep a firm hand. |
| 13:54.05 | Bagginsww | to split out game mechanics to their own pages |
| 13:54.10 | Daedals | Kirkburn can I ask you something? |
| 13:54.18 | Ragestorm | Why? |
| 13:54.28 | Ragestorm | They didn't exactly overtake the articles. |
| 13:54.35 | Bagginsww | and orcs because someone couldn't tell the difference between orcs outside the horde and those in the horde :p |
| 13:54.42 | Daedals | I see you have a .eu domain, how much it costs per year? |
| 13:54.55 | Bagginsww | but mainly for game mechanics |
| 13:55.11 | Bagginsww | lots of people complaining how lore gets in the way of the game :p |
| 13:55.19 | Ragestorm | Baggins, you should not be backing down in the face of any fewer than five "tetchy" contributors |
| 13:55.36 | Ragestorm | Or fewer than two admins. |
| 13:55.40 | Bagginsww | I'm trying to balance between two sides |
| 13:55.45 | Kirkburn | Daedals, not much, I think it was maybe £7 |
| 13:55.52 | Bagginsww | and I discussed in with many admins at the time :p |
| 13:55.55 | Daedals | for year? :O |
| 13:56.00 | Bagginsww | I didn't come to the decision alone |
| 13:56.05 | Daedals | well thats not much at all |
| 13:56.39 | Kirkburn | Looking at 1and1.co.uk ... normally £9 from them, though only £1 at the moment |
| 13:56.54 | Ragestorm | Is this the descision made when I was in central america, or the one made without any discussion whatsoever on-sit? |
| 13:56.58 | Ragestorm | Or both? |
| 13:57.03 | Kirkburn | You were in Central America!? |
| 13:57.12 | Ragestorm | :O |
| 13:57.33 | Ragestorm | I sent you an e-mail, I was gone for two months! |
| 13:57.37 | Kirkburn | ;P |
| 13:57.43 | Kirkburn | This is true :) |
| 13:58.32 | Kirkburn | We need forums, we really do |
| 13:58.53 | Ragestorm | What we need is a written entrance exam:D |
| 13:58.58 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, enjoy Creature Creator :P |
| 13:59.01 | Ragestorm | * :D |
| 13:59.12 | Fisker- | fuck you Kirkburn |
| 13:59.14 | Fisker- | i'm a dragon |
| 13:59.19 | Fisker- | and if you want to know |
| 13:59.22 | Kirkburn | Glad to hear it |
| 13:59.27 | Fisker- | EA mentally challenged themselves again |
| 13:59.37 | Fisker- | "guuuh we have to give back moneys" |
| 13:59.56 | Fisker- | "NEVARS lets price it like it were a console game" |
| 14:00.05 | Ragestorm | Right, the problem is that this game mechanic choice is being interpreted and treated as a lore choice. |
| 14:00.15 | Kirkburn | I'm going to see if I can hurry up the forum request, it would help immensely with this stuff |
| 14:00.16 | Ragestorm | Particularly as only a few pages are split, |
| 14:00.22 | Fisker- | so might as well shoot myself in the head than actually use the rebate you get |
| 14:00.29 | Fisker- | Or buy it from the stores |
| 14:01.04 | Ragestorm | How would forums help immensly with this? |
| 14:01.26 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, fun, a rebate that costs you more money :P |
| 14:01.46 | Kirkburn | Ragestorm, so we have a place to discuss changes that affect several articles |
| 14:02.08 | Kirkburn | Atm we just have the village pump, and it's just unweildy and not entirely appropriate |
| 14:02.21 | Ragestorm | Don't we have a wiki for that? :P |
| 14:02.42 | Ragestorm | And then what's this for, then? |
| 14:03.02 | Kirkburn | Well, this isn't recorded and publically read |
| 14:03.03 | Fisker- | no u Kirkburn |
| 14:03.10 | Ragestorm | Ah, yes. |
| 14:03.18 | Fisker- | but srsly |
| 14:03.24 | Ragestorm | Which was the problem to begin with. |
| 14:03.25 | Kirkburn | It's rather a sticking point with Fandy and others, and I can understand it |
| 14:03.31 | Fisker- | it's like $95 instead of a game of the same quality/price for $70 |
| 14:03.34 | Fisker- | so fuck them |
| 14:03.36 | Ragestorm | It was a sticking point with me |
| 14:03.43 | Kirkburn | :) I'm glad you're here though |
| 14:03.48 | Fisker- | and you can even get the game for like $60 |
| 14:04.12 | Ragestorm | Baggins: btw Ragestorm, we're stepping on your toes and splitting lore pages. Don't worry we discused it on irc for a while! |
| 14:04.48 | Ragestorm | Kirkburn: thanks. |
| 14:05.26 | Kirkburn | I agree with the splits, fwiw |
| 14:05.35 | Ragestorm | I know, we discussed this. |
| 14:05.50 | Kirkburn | Well, fine ... /me pouts |
| 14:06.00 | Bagginsww | well ragestorm, sometimes the lore and game mechanic were indistinguishable :p |
| 14:06.09 | Kirkburn|afk | be back in a bit |
| 14:06.18 | Ragestorm | I can see the reasoning on both counts (lore and gameplay), the problem is that the split seems to have been done with both in mind, |
| 14:06.40 | Ragestorm | Not one or the other. |
| 14:06.40 | Bagginsww | I mean roughly speaking the manual gave a specific reasoning to what humans were being played :p |
| 14:07.09 | Bagginsww | and the term Ironforge dwarf, is a pretty common term, thrown around in the rpg even :p |
| 14:07.29 | Fisker- | you're not Bagginsww |
| 14:07.31 | Fisker- | i am Bagginsww |
| 14:07.36 | ralf-x_ | darkiron dorf |
| 14:07.54 | ralf-x_ | still, to this day, the faction that gives me nightmares |
| 14:08.32 | Bagginsww | Ironforge dwarf refers to all the small clans not just Bronzebeards :p |
| 14:10.24 | Bagginsww | I never got around to it but the intent is to split hte game mechanics out of all the player races. There is no lore differences behind the tauren really. Even the grimtotem are part of the tauren even if it its unclear ingame :p |
| 14:11.04 | Bagginsww | that is grimtotem are part of the single tauren faction |
| 14:11.18 | Ragestorm | I know. When I discussed it with the others, they thought it was a LORE change, so we renamed, and agreed not to split the Tauren, Night Elves, Forsaken or Gnomes. |
| 14:13.41 | Bagginsww | btw if yu know of any pages that have huge ugly 5 page thesis of just speculation :p... those need to be split out too :p |
| 14:14.04 | Bagginsww | like the lame controversy pages :p |
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| 14:16.39 | Ragestorm | I'd say just delete them. |
| 14:16.51 | Ragestorm | They're worse then the Archtyrant crisis |
| 14:18.30 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 14:18.49 | Bagginsww | Archruids and Archlich, and Archmages? |
| 14:18.57 | Bagginsww | and demons and angels :p |
| 14:19.13 | Bagginsww | oh ya archwizard? |
| 14:19.57 | Ragestorm | No Archtyrant was a user who insisted that Archmimonde was more powerful than Kil'jaeden. |
| 14:20.40 | AckisWork | well archimond is more powerful than kj |
| 14:20.51 | Ragestorm | He wrote a whole section, and when I edited to NPOV, he added "counter-counter arguments or somesuch. |
| 14:20.56 | AckisWork | kj is only half a body, where as archimond is out there walking around humping the world tree |
| 14:21.24 | Ragestorm | AckisWork, if you want to discuss lore with us, maintain an air of seriousness. |
| 14:21.34 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 14:21.46 | AckisWork | someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today :P |
| 14:22.16 | Ragestorm | I'm an archaeologist. I sleep in a sarcophagus. |
| 14:22.22 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 14:22.25 | Ose | define power... |
| 14:22.29 | Bagginsww | mummy issues |
| 14:23.00 | Ragestorm | Of all the ones you've thrown, that's one of the worst. |
| 14:23.04 | Bagginsww | frankly that kind of discussion is lame since its subjective |
| 14:23.05 | AckisWork | rofl but what I said was said with a bit of sarcasm but has some bite to it... KJ can't enter the world archi did... |
| 14:23.42 | Ragestorm | Usually, in Warcraft, the more difficult the summon, the more powerful the summoned. |
| 14:23.54 | Ose | K'j and Archie are btoh powerfull, but in different ways. period. |
| 14:23.54 | Bagginsww | archi could enter the world only after the rituals were complete |
| 14:24.18 | Ragestorm | Sargeras needed the Well of Eternity to enter the world, and he was WAY more powerful than Arch. |
| 14:24.37 | AckisWork | I wasn't talking about how, I was talking about success |
| 14:24.41 | Ose | how did the titans enter then? |
| 14:24.54 | Bagginsww | granted they shoul dhave just flown there :p |
| 14:25.06 | Bagginsww | portals be damned |
| 14:25.18 | Bagginsww | titans made the well |
| 14:25.40 | Bagginsww | so they had to have come by some other means |
| 14:25.56 | Bagginsww | they made the well before they left |
| 14:26.07 | Bagginsww | to help nourish and evolove all life on the planet |
| 14:26.12 | Bagginsww | *evolve |
| 14:27.12 | Bagginsww | ackis both archi and KJ required rituals to bring them to azeroth. The difference is archis were completed, KJ was stopped before it could be completed |
| 14:27.35 | Bagginsww | although.... |
| 14:27.50 | Bagginsww | didn't KJ appear anywhere he wanted to in Warcraft III:TFT? |
| 14:28.30 | Ragestorm | I guess Outland is more vulnerable to his projections? |
| 14:29.35 | Bagginsww | its been a while but didn't he project himself to Illidan in on Azeroth just after illidan failed to destory Icecrown with the Eye of Sargeras? |
| 14:30.12 | Ragestorm | No |
| 14:30.44 | g0urra | Nope |
| 14:30.55 | Bagginsww | ahh only in outland eh? |
| 14:31.39 | Ose | {{raidprogress}} seems to be working good now. any more suggestions/comments on it? |
| 14:31.39 | Dotted | Ose meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:raidprogress |
| 14:31.48 | Ose | colouring maybe? |
| 14:32.08 | Ose | see http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:The_United_Exiles_%28Moonglade_EU%29#Raiding |
| 14:32.18 | AckisWork | Ose: Outdoor raid bosses? |
| 14:32.31 | Ose | ofc |
| 14:32.55 | g0urra | Ose: you missed out quite a few bosses. |
| 14:33.11 | ralf-x_ | you know, it's weird to me how no one ever talks about killing those |
| 14:33.34 | g0urra | Nightbane & Gurtogg Bloodboil, to take a few |
| 14:33.39 | Ose | I based it off some list I found |
| 14:34.04 | Ose | nightbane is there |
| 14:34.14 | ralf-x_ | the outdoor raid bosses rather |
| 14:34.31 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/Burning_Crusade_raid_instance_bosses is teh fail |
| 14:34.34 | g0urra | Opera event |
| 14:34.51 | ralf-x_ | animal bosses! |
| 14:34.52 | g0urra | Chess |
| 14:35.17 | Ose | animal bosses? in ZA? they are there |
| 14:35.25 | ralf-x_ | no, in kara |
| 14:35.28 | ralf-x_ | lol |
| 14:35.29 | AckisWork | it would also be M'uru and Entropius |
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| 14:38.02 | Ose | sorry for being a raid nub, but is there animal bosses in Kara? |
| 14:38.08 | Bagginsww | lets see from a purely game mechanic perspective Archemonde is the weaker boss of the two? |
| 14:38.19 | Ose | yes? |
| 14:38.32 | Bagginsww | a horse, a dragon, um |
| 14:38.35 | Bagginsww | two dragons |
| 14:38.48 | Bagginsww | dragons being "animal-like" |
| 14:38.51 | g0urra | Dragons? |
| 14:39.17 | AckisWork | animal boss is the stable area, it's an optional boss |
| 14:39.18 | Bagginsww | nether dragon, and a skeleton |
| 14:39.23 | Bagginsww | oh that |
| 14:39.24 | Bagginsww | too |
| 14:39.26 | ralf-x_ | Ose: yes |
| 14:39.28 | AckisWork | it's a random spawn once you clear the whole area |
| 14:39.28 | Bagginsww | I never fought those |
| 14:39.31 | g0urra | >,> |
| 14:39.34 | ralf-x_ | I've never fought them either |
| 14:39.39 | ralf-x_ | but I've heard of them! |
| 14:39.44 | ralf-x_ | they are pre-attumen |
| 14:39.53 | ralf-x_ | so they are a "gimmie" for failguilds |
| 14:39.53 | Bagginsww | no one wanted to go there so I have no idea what that area looks like :p |
| 14:39.59 | Bagginsww | I need a mapviewer :p |
| 14:40.16 | Bagginsww | or the bedrooms on the upper floor of the tower that have nothing? |
| 14:40.17 | g0urra | There's a spider (Hyakiss the Lurker), darkhound (Rokad the Ravager), and bat (Shadikith the Glider) |
| 14:40.42 | ralf-x_ | I do want to explore all of kara some day |
| 14:40.46 | AckisWork | the animal bosses were harder than attumen back in the day |
| 14:40.48 | g0urra | If you're talking about a nether dragon it would be Netherspite, it's not an animal boss |
| 14:40.54 | ralf-x_ | g0urra: I'm not |
| 14:40.59 | ralf-x_ | I'm talking about the ones you listed |
| 14:41.00 | g0urra | I'm not talking to you. |
| 14:41.35 | g0urra | <Bagginsww> nether dragon, and a skeleton |
| 14:41.35 | ralf-x_ | :P |
| 14:41.36 | g0urra | and the "skeleton dragon" is Nightbane, it's not an animal boss either |
| 14:41.39 | ralf-x_ | lol |
| 14:41.43 | Bagginsww | I was being descriptive |
| 14:42.06 | Bagginsww | notif they had some kinda animal subtype attached |
| 14:42.10 | AckisWork | g0urra: there's a 4th iirc too |
| 14:42.11 | Bagginsww | *beast" |
| 14:42.16 | g0urra | You don't know what you're talking about do you |
| 14:42.32 | g0urra | (Bagginsww) |
| 14:42.49 | Bagginsww | but ya dragons are more animal like than humanoids ;) unless they choose to be humanoids :p |
| 14:43.03 | ralf-x_ | there's 3 beasts in the servants' quarters |
| 14:43.34 | g0urra | Bagginsww: we're talking about the animal bosses that randomly spawns in the Servants' Quarters in Karazhan. |
| 14:43.49 | Bagginsww | I was confused as to what you were initially asking |
| 14:44.05 | pcj | there's Big Bad Wolf in opera |
| 14:44.17 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
| 14:44.17 | pcj | oh and does tito count |
| 14:44.18 | g0urra | slaps pcj around a bit with a large worgen |
| 14:44.32 | pcj | and Roar |
| 14:44.32 | Bagginsww | pcj is right |
| 14:44.50 | Bagginsww | you didn't specify "servent's quarter bosses" |
| 14:44.57 | g0urra | Shut up Bagginsww. |
| 14:45.02 | Bagginsww | you just said animals in kara |
| 14:45.07 | pcj | The horse in Chess Event is an animal |
| 14:45.11 | g0urra | <Ose> sorry for being a raid nub, but is there animal bosses in Kara? |
| 14:45.18 | ralf-x_ | hmm. |
| 14:45.20 | Bagginsww | ok ose |
| 14:45.29 | ralf-x_ | so there is no tank range weapons in kz. interesting |
| 14:45.46 | pcj | Midnight is an animal |
| 14:45.50 | g0urra | If you don't know what people mean with "Animal bosses in Kara" then shut up and don't be a wise guy talking about horses and dragons |
| 14:46.24 | pcj | So since I do know what they mean I can be a wise guy, perfect |
| 14:46.41 | Bagginsww | my guild just called it the servent quarter bosses |
| 14:47.09 | g0urra | Did your guild also call Nightbane for Arcanagos? |
| 14:47.31 | Bagginsww | did they call him nightbane? |
| 14:47.33 | Bagginsww | yes |
| 14:47.48 | g0urra | ... |
| 14:48.37 | Bagginsww | well that is hte specific name of the boss isn't it :p |
| 14:48.54 | g0urra | That's not what I meant. |
| 14:49.18 | AckisWork | anyways, I added Gurtogg Bloodboil to that raid template thing if that's ok? |
| 14:49.35 | g0urra | It's only okay if you kill one hundred gnomes while you do it |
| 14:49.45 | AckisWork | oh what if I killed about 12000? |
| 14:49.48 | AckisWork | is horde. |
| 14:52.38 | Bagginsww | ok "Zandalarian" |
| 14:52.57 | Bagginsww | is that term in game or troll compendiumor elsewhere? |
| 14:53.17 | Bagginsww | erm i mean Zandalarians |
| 14:53.25 | Bagginsww | for plural |
| 14:53.55 | Bagginsww | because Zandalari is another plural term if it is :p |
| 14:54.24 | g0urra | Let's merge them into one, nice, big Troll page. |
| 14:55.44 | Bagginsww | merga ll the trolls? |
| 14:56.01 | Bagginsww | don't we have a generic troll article? |
| 14:56.15 | Ose | so what should I add to the Kara row? |
| 14:56.34 | Ose | "Opera event" or all three possibilities? |
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| 14:59.23 | ralf-x_ | good question |
| 14:59.33 | ralf-x_ | for marking progression, I would just do "Opera" |
| 14:59.40 | ralf-x_ | that's just me |
| 14:59.52 | ralf-x_ | the reason being that you can't make the other events occur |
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| 15:00.55 | Ose | yeah, I did that |
| 15:01.29 | ralf-x_ | I know some ppl who have done kara for over a year and only seen certain events once or twice :P |
| 15:01.53 | Ose | heh |
| 15:02.18 | ralf-x_ | I think I've had a good mix of it |
| 15:02.24 | ralf-x_ | probably seen R+J the least |
| 15:02.25 | Bagginsww | ata'ai and the hakkari are merged into one article in dark factions in the same way ursoc and ursol are :p |
| 15:02.33 | Bagginsww | connected at the hip :p |
| 15:03.05 | Ose | what kind of category should it go into? |
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| 15:15.22 | Bagginsww | offiical fan art? |
| 15:15.30 | Bagginsww | what's he smoking :p |
| 15:17.38 | g0urra | I'd say "Whatever is better than a WMV image" |
| 15:18.48 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 15:19.27 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Sylvanas_Windrunner#.22official_fanart.22_eh.3F |
| 15:20.24 | Ragestorm | Well, you could argue that the fanart Blizzard posts is more official than the others. |
| 15:20.33 | Bagginsww | "Such images should only exceptionally be used in articles, and only according to the corresponding policies." |
| 15:20.58 | Bagginsww | I'm sorry but is that setence even grammatically corect? |
| 15:21.01 | g0urra | Ragestorm: did you see to what fanart he reverted back to? |
| 15:21.08 | Bagginsww | his own? |
| 15:21.23 | Ragestorm | Oh, I'm not saying that he's right, I'm just saying Baggins's argument is wrong. |
| 15:21.25 | g0urra | hah, true. |
| 15:21.52 | Bagginsww | anyone can add the fanart to blizzard's website as long as it doesn't break policies :p |
| 15:21.56 | Bagginsww | then people can vote off ones |
| 15:21.58 | Bagginsww | they don't like |
| 15:22.06 | Ragestorm | Oh, that's good. |
| 15:22.20 | Bagginsww | so i'm not saying that's really 'official' :p |
| 15:22.46 | Ragestorm | I say we only gallerize screenshots and Blizzard-posted fanart. |
| 15:22.53 | Ragestorm | And never in the infobox. |
| 15:23.20 | Bagginsww | you mean fan-posted artwork from blizzard's site :p |
| 15:24.09 | Ragestorm | I mean those things that cross the Blizzard news feeds. I don't care who adds them, they have more an air of officiality than random stuff. |
| 15:24.18 | Bagginsww | *or as blizzard calls it "fan submiitted" |
| 15:24.27 | Ragestorm | I also say that we should ban WMV images altogether. |
| 15:24.51 | Ragestorm | But then I also say that we should have an entrance exam. |
| 15:25.24 | Bagginsww | entrance exam, as in warcraft trivia if you don't pass it you don't get in? |
| 15:25.44 | g0urra | Ragestorm: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:JeklikBat.png would go away then? |
| 15:26.07 | Ragestorm | Warcraft trivia, writing sample to prove that these people can actually write, that sort of thing. |
| 15:26.26 | Bagginsww | hah hah |
| 15:26.31 | Ragestorm | High school diploma... |
| 15:26.39 | Ragestorm | Or most recent report card |
| 15:26.45 | Bagginsww | did you read the scrolls of lore article? |
| 15:26.53 | Ragestorm | On what? |
| 15:26.59 | Bagginsww | on wowwiki |
| 15:27.00 | Bagginsww | It has the dual purpose of being an encyclopedia of lore that will be edited by a select few; however, this has yet to debut. |
| 15:27.07 | Bagginsww | if that isn't a jab at us |
| 15:27.25 | Bagginsww | that hardly seem slike a "neutral" comment |
| 15:27.30 | Ragestorm | They hate us, that's no surprise. |
| 15:27.41 | Bagginsww | jealousy LOL |
| 15:28.15 | Bagginsww | there website has been down for a month |
| 15:28.24 | Bagginsww | perhaps they are dead |
| 15:28.30 | Ragestorm | Which one of us is on Worldofwarcraft.com? |
| 15:29.04 | Bagginsww | hmm? |
| 15:29.09 | Ragestorm | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/fansites.html |
| 15:29.35 | Ragestorm | I don't see scrolls of lore there. |
| 15:29.43 | Bagginsww | so we ar emore popular hah hah |
| 15:30.16 | Bagginsww | so ya I'd say jealousy :p |
| 15:30.27 | Ragestorm | Not really, just that Blizzard recognizes us. |
| 15:32.15 | Ragestorm | Yes, we do seem a bit POV on that one. |
| 15:32.20 | Bagginsww | well they don't have a website right now... only their forum works, but thats on anothe rsite :p |
| 15:32.25 | AckisWork | Ose: Kazzak the Supreme isn't showing up on that raid template |
| 15:32.54 | Ose | no, doom lord Kazzak is |
| 15:33.10 | Bagginsww | I'd edit it but some of them hate me beyond anyone else, so I don't want them to assume its an attack by me :p |
| 15:33.19 | Ose | and that is his name as seen when encountered in HF |
| 15:33.24 | AckisWork | Ose: The text was "{{#if:{{{Doomwalker|{{{Kazzak the Supreme|<noinclude>foo</noinclude>}}}}}}" lol |
| 15:33.29 | AckisWork | Was doing copy and pasting |
| 15:33.47 | Ose | oh, I see |
| 15:34.24 | AckisWork | was just dicking around with setting up a guild page thing |
| 15:34.26 | AckisWork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Team_Ice_(Illidan_US)#Raiding |
| 15:37.05 | Bagginsww | ok looking at the edit history |
| 15:37.15 | Bagginsww | apparently the page used claim, "an alternative to wowwiki" |
| 15:37.35 | Bagginsww | so if you take tha tline in context it was never meant to be neutral point of view :p |
| 15:38.04 | Bagginsww | ok it was sky's article... :p |
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| 15:41.32 | Bagginsww | well I was saying the article was created by sky |
| 15:41.52 | Bagginsww | his original verison of the article's context was even worse as far as neutrality :p |
| 15:42.12 | AckisWork | so just a question, if I'm editing something and I do something wrong/bad (out of ignorance, not malice) how hard will I get spanked? |
| 15:42.43 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Scrolls_of_Lore&oldid=868672 |
| 15:43.16 | Ose | AckisWork: if you have cleared the whole instances, you can just do <instance>=cleared and all the bosses in that instance will turn green |
| 15:43.22 | Bagginsww | ackiswork if you ar eplanning something major I'd suggest discussing it in the talk page of that article |
| 15:43.45 | Ose | ofc, if you want the dates to show, you have to do <boss>=<date> |
| 15:43.46 | Bagginsww | if you break something, just fix it |
| 15:44.40 | AckisWork | Ose: I plan on adding dates eventually, was just too much work for right now ;) |
| 15:45.06 | AckisWork | Generally my edits are small typo fixes, unless I'm creating a new page (aka mod pages, toon page, guild page) |
| 15:45.27 | Bagginsww | ya typo fixes are ok, unless its a direct quote |
| 15:45.39 | Bagginsww | and the typos were original typos |
| 15:45.56 | Bagginsww | if it was a typo added to the sentence in transcription then fix it ;) |
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| 16:01.35 | g0urra | Bagginsww: why revert back to that image? |
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| 16:02.00 | Bagginsww | see talk page |
| 16:05.22 | Ragestorm | Works for me |
| 16:06.05 | Ragestorm | Baggins, I know you have this psychosis against screenshots as infoboxes but that is |
| 16:06.23 | Ragestorm | An extremely unflattering Fandral |
| 16:07.16 | Bagginsww | but at least it doens't look like other players :p |
| 16:07.26 | Bagginsww | ya I'm not much on the comic artwork |
| 16:07.32 | Bagginsww | I don't see what people see in that artist |
| 16:07.37 | Bagginsww | simonson is it? |
| 16:07.54 | Bagginsww | if a choice exists samwise and him |
| 16:07.58 | Ragestorm | Who did the one we have for Aegwynn? |
| 16:08.00 | Bagginsww | I'd go for samwise |
| 16:08.03 | Bagginsww | samwise |
| 16:08.23 | Bagginsww | samwise did the cover artwork |
| 16:08.33 | Bagginsww | I haven't seen the simonson cover |
| 16:09.37 | Ragestorm | So Samwise did the Aegwynn? |
| 16:09.42 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 16:10.14 | Bagginsww | just a sec |
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| 16:10.46 | Bagginsww | http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/viewer.php?artist=samwise&cat=warcraft&art=112 |
| 16:10.51 | Bagginsww | I like that image of jaina :p |
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| 16:10.58 | Ragestorm | To romancy. |
| 16:11.04 | Ragestorm | Waaay to Romancy. |
| 16:11.07 | Ragestorm | *too |
| 16:11.11 | Bagginsww | I mean cut the guy out |
| 16:11.17 | Bagginsww | but its one of the most detailed versions of her |
| 16:11.31 | Ragestorm | Looks too childish, I think. |
| 16:11.35 | Bagginsww | that's true |
| 16:11.57 | Bagginsww | the ccg artwork was good too |
| 16:12.14 | Ragestorm | Oh, yeah, that one was awesome |
| 16:12.18 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 16:12.30 | Bagginsww | and its frontal so all good for infobox ;) |
| 16:12.41 | Ragestorm | Problem is, I still think the best one was the fanart one of her in front of the Violet Citadel. |
| 16:12.51 | Bagginsww | but ya jaina artwork is few and far between :p |
| 16:13.06 | Bagginsww | ya fanart was much better :p |
| 16:13.23 | Bagginsww | and why won't blizzard do a good sylvanas :p |
| 16:13.54 | Ragestorm | I'd really like to ask Metzen why she alway looks like a Night elf. |
| 16:14.05 | Bagginsww | hah hah ya |
| 16:14.18 | Ragestorm | If they're going to dramatically reveal she was one the whole time, fine, but put the damn thing to rest!@ |
| 16:16.46 | Ragestorm | How @#$%ing long is Night of the Dragon that they want $16 list price? |
| 16:18.26 | Bagginsww | ..... |
| 16:18.38 | Bagginsww | maybe its in archive size :p |
| 16:18.43 | Bagginsww | big text |
| 16:19.08 | g0urra | http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/viewer.php?artist=samwise&cat=warcraft&art=124 |
| 16:19.14 | g0urra | lol @ the title |
| 16:19.15 | Ragestorm | Big text? LEARN TO FUCKING READ |
| 16:19.19 | g0urra | "WarCraft - Make a Wish Foundation Orc" |
| 16:19.29 | Bagginsww | hmm an arthas novel |
| 16:19.41 | Ragestorm | Golden, it should be fine |
| 16:19.52 | Ragestorm | Well, finer |
| 16:20.10 | Bagginsww | at least her style is very readible , :) |
| 16:20.16 | Fisker- | in your dreams Bagginsww |
| 16:20.36 | Ragestorm | At least she doesn't suffer from second-novel-Mary-Sue psychosis. |
| 16:20.37 | Bagginsww | knaacks style is too dry really |
| 16:21.04 | Ragestorm | Knaak's style is "doesn't realize other people came up with ideas." |
| 16:21.06 | Bagginsww | well at least she hasn't been working with characters of her own :p |
| 16:21.25 | Ragestorm | She might have, but she's not getting carried away. |
| 16:21.46 | Bagginsww | well she created some but so far her eras have been so far apart |
| 16:22.00 | Ragestorm | She's more about defining lore, where as Knaak feels like he has to make it from scratch, |
| 16:22.02 | Bagginsww | that they don't really show up in each of hte books LOL |
| 16:22.08 | Bagginsww | unless its some obscure orc |
| 16:22.46 | Ragestorm | See, Knaak can't even keep place names. In his Diablo books, he renames places |
| 16:22.52 | Bagginsww | ? |
| 16:23.09 | Bagginsww | well Knaack was 50/50 in his first book |
| 16:23.15 | Ragestorm | In Moon of the Spider, he claims that the capital of Westmarch is Westmarch. |
| 16:23.21 | Bagginsww | half the names were obscure warcraft II refrences |
| 16:23.34 | Bagginsww | and the other half were places made from scratch |
| 16:23.39 | Ragestorm | When the DiabloII maps have a little star in the centre of Westmarch labeled "Duncraig." |
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| 16:23.47 | Bagginsww | Lawl |
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| 16:24.12 | Bagginsww | although intenrally you never know what blizzard told him to do :p |
| 16:24.19 | Ragestorm | And in spite of the fact that a fifth of Diablo II is set in Kurast, the capital of Kehjistan in the Sin War is Kehjan. |
| 16:24.27 | Ragestorm | This is true, |
| 16:25.14 | Ragestorm | But looking at them, Maiev Shadowsong, an established character, doesn't appear until book 3, while her brother, apparently his own invention, is a major character from page 20. |
| 16:25.31 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 16:25.44 | Bagginsww | although maiev's background wasn't that big in the rpg either |
| 16:25.54 | Ragestorm | I like some of what he does, but he's given WAY too long a leash, |
| 16:26.05 | Bagginsww | she basically only "showed up" after Illidan made the well |
| 16:26.09 | Bagginsww | second well |
| 16:26.11 | pcj | http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23496124-details/The+Google+Earth+gatecrashers+who+take+uninvited+dips+in+home-owners%27+swimming+pools/article.do |
| 16:26.17 | Bagginsww | upset at the dange rit oculd cause |
| 16:26.17 | Ragestorm | Golden works within what is already established. |
| 16:26.24 | Bagginsww | and that was her reason for becomign his warden |
| 16:27.18 | Bagginsww | on theother hand that can be a double edged sword |
| 16:27.48 | Bagginsww | some interviews from authors of the rpg and novels have made claims that they wante dto utilize already established characters but were denied |
| 16:27.57 | Bagginsww | because Blizzard wants to do something with them themselves |
| 16:28.11 | Bagginsww | so they were forced to work with other minor things or create their own |
| 16:29.09 | Bagginsww | but ya shadows and light came out after knaacks first book |
| 16:29.19 | Bagginsww | somewhere near the release of the second |
| 16:29.28 | Bagginsww | he might not have been allowed to work with maeiv |
| 16:29.41 | Bagginsww | because even shadows and light is vary vague on her past |
| 16:29.47 | Bagginsww | during the war itself |
| 16:30.06 | pcj | http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=764 |
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| 16:31.50 | Ragestorm | that still does not justify turning WotA into a timetravel adventure. |
| 16:32.23 | Bagginsww | When the demons first came to Azeroth 10,000 |
| 16:32.24 | Bagginsww | years ago and blasted Kalimdor apart, Maiev |
| 16:32.24 | Bagginsww | Shadowsong was a young Kaldorei and could do |
| 16:32.24 | Bagginsww | little but observe the destruction. |
| 16:32.38 | Bagginsww | nothing justifies time travel :p |
| 16:33.06 | Bagginsww | the quest in game ruins the events of lord of the clans |
| 16:33.29 | Bagginsww | I'm sorry, "the bronze dragons gave them false memories" doesn't cut it for me |
| 16:33.44 | Bagginsww | the escape in the book was much better more thrilling. |
| 16:33.54 | Bagginsww | it was set at night even :p |
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| 16:58.59 | pcj | gosh the admins are fighting |
| 16:59.19 | Fisker- | chickfight? |
| 16:59.25 | pcj | if only |
| 17:00.53 | Ragestorm | Just stay out of it. |
| 17:01.16 | pcj | hmm |
| 17:01.20 | pcj | punches Ragestorm in the face |
| 17:01.21 | pcj | oops |
| 17:01.44 | *** kick/#wowwiki [pcj!n=JMW@162.84.148.219] by Ragestorm (Ragestorm) |
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| 17:01.48 | Ragestorm | Riight. |
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| 17:02.04 | pcj | it was jim |
| 17:02.09 | Jimdinventor | Ack! |
| 17:02.10 | Jimdinventor | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:03.22 | pcj | http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080618133730.bsj1ewfm&show_article=1 |
| 17:03.38 | pcj | how can the chinese government be worried about monopoly when they themselves are a monopoly |
| 17:04.18 | Jimdinventor | Everyone's all well and fine with the concept until their opponents take the entire red and green property strips. |
| 17:04.28 | Ragestorm | What does that have to do with anything? |
| 17:14.00 | pcj | everything |
| 17:17.38 | Bagginsww | so yes I bothered to make the article on discapitalizing clans no one seems to be argueing... |
| 17:19.18 | g0urra | http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/viewer.php?artist=samwise&cat=warcraft&art=167 I wouldn't want to meet that in a dark alley... |
| 17:19.23 | Bagginsww | *make a discussion |
| 17:19.40 | Bagginsww | heh mheh |
| 17:20.52 | Bagginsww | I could go for a Troll Wars novel |
| 17:22.25 | g0urra | Bagginsww, how come Gul'dan is a [[Healer]]? |
| 17:22.30 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Healer#Famous.2FNamed |
| 17:23.59 | Bagginsww | because healers and shamans share some of the same spells :p |
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| 17:25.03 | Bagginsww | that's reason I think the rpg gave him the class |
| 17:25.11 | ralf-x_ | which spells? |
| 17:25.23 | Bagginsww | now that acould take all day Lawl |
| 17:25.32 | Bagginsww | I'm not toing to go through the rpg book to check :p |
| 17:25.47 | ralf-x_ | eh. k |
| 17:25.48 | Bagginsww | well all the rpg books of the Warcraft RPG |
| 17:26.00 | ralf-x_ | ok but not in the MMO |
| 17:26.02 | Bagginsww | system changed a bit in World of Warcraft RPG |
| 17:26.04 | pcj | um why does https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6622 not work with fx3 |
| 17:26.22 | Bagginsww | RIght there is no way to learn cross class spells in the MMO |
| 17:26.27 | pcj | nvm got it |
| 17:26.34 | ralf-x_ | yea ok I was a bit confused there for a sec :P |
| 17:28.01 | Bagginsww | interesting fact is thta druids, scouts and rangers/sentinels fall under "druidic" classes in the rpg |
| 17:28.07 | ralf-x_ | odd |
| 17:28.13 | Bagginsww | well not really |
| 17:28.23 | Bagginsww | all three are very intuned to nature |
| 17:28.38 | Bagginsww | the druid class itself is the shapeshifter of the bunch |
| 17:28.54 | Bagginsww | but the other too vary on being closer to traditional idea of druids |
| 17:28.54 | ralf-x_ | mm I suppose so ya |
| 17:29.10 | Bagginsww | like speaking to trees and what not |
| 17:30.49 | Bagginsww | scouts have the least druidic style abilities though |
| 17:31.12 | Bagginsww | I'd say more between a warrior and a druid |
| 17:32.00 | Bagginsww | more towards warrior though, maybe a touch of rogue |
| 17:32.06 | Bagginsww | going by ingame abilitie sof course |
| 17:32.24 | Bagginsww | I'd have to compare to see how close they get to rpg style rogues and warriors |
| 17:33.57 | pcj | Can someone edit the Template talk in http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Tnavbar to an external links |
| 17:34.32 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Speak_with_Plants |
| 17:39.55 | pcj | kirkburn: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Tnavbar&diff=1414978&oldid=1377652 |
| 17:41.45 | Kirkburn|afk | lol, I already made that edit on Tnavbox/dev |
| 17:42.28 | Kirkburn|afk | Will change |
| 17:43.24 | foxlit | kirk sawed the corners off most things |
| 17:43.36 | foxlit | except for portal navigation, which now looks odd :/ |
| 17:44.09 | Kirkburn|afk | I did? |
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| 17:44.39 | Kirkburn|afk | I updated the CSS with webkit corners, perhaps that? |
| 17:46.09 | Kirkburn|afk | pcj, done |
| 17:46.46 | Kirkburn|afk | There's a small problem with ad margins on the non-main page portals, but nothing else new |
| 17:47.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyway, back to afk |
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| 17:47.51 | Kirochi | PCJ |
| 17:48.09 | pcj | what |
| 17:48.51 | Kirochi | why did you take the spanish phrase off my template? |
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| 17:49.31 | pcj | WW:DNP |
| 17:49.33 | pcj | non-english content |
| 17:49.52 | Kirochi | how is this "content" |
| 17:50.15 | pcj | it's also pointless to have it in spanish |
| 17:55.59 | Gourra|away | En fuego! |
| 17:57.57 | Fisker- | NEIN |
| 17:59.13 | Ragestorm | ã´ìã
! |
| 17:59.40 | g0urra | |
| 17:59.40 | g0urra | éç¸ä¸ç |
| 17:59.44 | Dotted | ach du lieber august |
| 17:59.58 | Fisker- | hals maul idiot |
| 18:00.09 | Dotted | halt die klappe |
| 18:00.11 | Ragestorm | WoWWiki goes multinational. Gotta love the UN. |
| 18:00.22 | g0urra | Du hasst |
| 18:02.03 | AckisWork | bonjour, comment ca vas? |
| 18:02.57 | Ragestorm | ã
ã
, íã´. |
| 18:03.07 | Ragestorm | Damnnit |
| 18:03.14 | Ragestorm | That's better |
| 18:04.24 | ralf-x_ | please stop vomiting on my terminal, thx |
| 18:04.34 | pcj | !jobqueue |
| 18:04.50 | Dotted | The WoWWiki job queue length is currently 0 |
| 18:04.53 | pcj | lol |
| 18:04.56 | g0urra | o.0 |
| 18:05.40 | g0urra | !jobqueue |
| 18:05.56 | Dotted | The WoWWiki job queue length is currently 9925 |
| 18:06.02 | g0urra | That's the spirit |
| 18:07.19 | pcj | !jobqueue |
| 18:07.35 | Dotted | The WoWWiki job queue length is currently 9925 |
| 18:10.42 | Kirochi | allez tous vous faire enculer |
| 18:11.09 | pcj | je m'en fous |
| 18:11.25 | Kirochi | elle avait un tête de sharpeï et ses cadeaux étaient minables |
| 18:11.41 | Kirochi | wha wha wha |
| 18:11.43 | Kirochi | Ragestorm !! |
| 18:11.49 | Kirochi | thou here |
| 18:11.54 | Kirochi | what a delight |
| 18:12.46 | Ragestorm | [:) |
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| 18:13.21 | Kirochi | what is this you're wearing on top? |
| 18:14.03 | Kirochi | pcj, you're made of fail. A hidden line doesn't hurt any eye, even the most bigoted New Zealander's |
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| 18:14.45 | Sky2042 | onos, teh Kirochi |
| 18:15.19 | Kirochi | ragestorm, while I got you here |
| 18:15.32 | Ragestorm | hmm? |
| 18:15.34 | Kirochi | I'll be representing the bookkeepers at WWI |
| 18:15.46 | pcj | world war one? |
| 18:15.47 | Sky2042 | (he's here more than you are now!) |
| 18:15.52 | Sky2042 | pcj: yes. |
| 18:15.54 | Sky2042 | ;0 |
| 18:16.22 | Ragestorm | Umm... why do we need representation exactly? |
| 18:16.41 | pcj | to watch for retcons, duh |
| 18:16.46 | Kirochi | yeah, we always need books in trenches |
| 18:16.55 | Kirochi | well |
| 18:17.13 | Kirochi | I'll be displaying short exposés about the lore of some WoW places |
| 18:17.19 | Kirochi | on a wide screen |
| 18:17.24 | Ragestorm | Best keep it as a representing WoWWiki, |
| 18:17.31 | Sky2042 | wtf |
| 18:17.45 | Sky2042 | well, huh |
| 18:17.49 | pcj | no, can't let him represent wowwiki |
| 18:17.56 | pcj | that would be bad |
| 18:17.56 | Kirochi | rage, why? |
| 18:17.56 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Techslayer.JPG lol |
| 18:18.30 | Sky2042 | pcj: agreed |
| 18:18.40 | Ragestorm | We're a minor and practically defunct facet. |
| 18:18.42 | Kirochi | why so? |
| 18:19.04 | Ragestorm | Me or them? |
| 18:19.13 | pcj | Yes |
| 18:19.13 | Kirochi | well adys will already be there to represent the admins |
| 18:19.14 | Kirochi | dem |
| 18:19.24 | Sky2042 | (oh god) |
| 18:19.37 | Ragestorm | Sky, pcj, over to you. |
| 18:20.00 | Sky2042 | lets pcj take control. |
| 18:20.09 | pcj | we already have adys |
| 18:20.14 | Kirochi | anyway I'll be representing Dell, Intel, my guild and the Troll Liberation Front as well :D |
| 18:20.16 | Adys | i doubt ill be there to represent ww |
| 18:20.36 | pcj | ok |
| 18:20.40 | Fisker- | for WWI? |
| 18:20.41 | Sky2042 | (no wonder Dell sucks) |
| 18:20.41 | Fisker- | :( |
| 18:20.43 | Fisker- | what a shame |
| 18:20.45 | Sky2042 | /thread |
| 18:20.45 | Adys | Kirochi: tout le monde se fout pas mal du TLF |
| 18:20.50 | Fisker- | now i might as well throw out my ticket |
| 18:20.53 | Kirochi | je t'emmerde pésquenaud |
| 18:21.02 | pcj | omelette du fromage |
| 18:21.13 | Adys | omelette AU fromage you fucktwat |
| 18:21.26 | Kirochi | -s |
| 18:21.28 | Kirochi | merde |
| 18:21.34 | pcj | no i like my omelettes made entirely out of cheese |
| 18:21.35 | Kirochi | au fait, t'es vraiment en grèce? |
| 18:21.40 | Adys | pas encore |
| 18:21.44 | Adys | apres la wwi j'y part |
| 18:21.50 | Kirochi | quelle région? |
| 18:21.51 | pcj | o sht |
| 18:21.52 | Adys | billet pour le 1er |
| 18:21.53 | Adys | athenes |
| 18:21.55 | Kirochi | han |
| 18:21.56 | Kirochi | rox |
| 18:21.57 | g0urra | Who's going to the WWI? |
| 18:22.07 | Adys | kirk, Kirochi, and me at least |
| 18:22.07 | Fisker- | btw teefuckinghee Kirkburn|afk |
| 18:22.10 | Fisker- | magelo is against the tos |
| 18:22.12 | Kirochi | je peux te conseiller un pote dealer là-bas si t'es en manque de matos |
| 18:22.14 | Fisker- | (blacklist lolol) |
| 18:22.17 | pcj | i assume france, england, austria-hungary, etc |
| 18:22.30 | Kirochi | kirk will be there? |
| 18:22.31 | Sky2042 | Fisker-: er, i'm pretty sure not. |
| 18:22.36 | Adys | yes |
| 18:22.39 | g0urra | I'm going to WWI too |
| 18:22.45 | Adys | nicey gourra |
| 18:22.49 | Fisker- | Sky2042 of course it is |
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| 18:23.03 | Kirochi | aw |
| 18:23.11 | Kirochi | there'll be four of us then |
| 18:23.13 | Sky2042 | Fisker-: orly?! |
| 18:23.16 | Fisker- | yarly |
| 18:23.23 | Ragestorm | Good, we have a plentiful supply of users. |
| 18:23.36 | Ragestorm | Now we just need to prevent them from killing each other. |
| 18:23.42 | Sky2042 | chuckles at Ragestorm. |
| 18:23.44 | Adys | you're coming too Ragestorm? |
| 18:23.46 | Kirochi | Ragestorm, could you give me advice? |
| 18:24.04 | Fisker- | kd3 magelo magelo magelo |
| 18:25.08 | Ragestorm | No, i'm not going |
| 18:25.12 | Adys | aw |
| 18:25.14 | Adys | [20:10:43] <Kirochi> allez tous vous faire enculer |
| 18:25.16 | Adys | mais genre |
| 18:25.22 | Kirochi | damn, haven't stopped coughing for ten mins |
| 18:25.23 | Adys | le mec se croit chez mémé |
| 18:25.39 | Kirochi | hey, t'as pas lu ce qu'ils m'ont écrit en allemand les enfoirés |
| 18:26.17 | Adys | tu veux que je t'apprennes des insultes en russe? |
| 18:26.34 | Kirochi | j'en connais :p |
| 18:26.39 | Kirochi | yobanij v rot |
| 18:26.42 | Kirochi | bliat |
| 18:26.43 | Adys | en grec alors?! |
| 18:26.55 | Kirochi | si malakas |
| 18:27.00 | Adys | ouais |
| 18:27.04 | Adys | t'iras pas loin avec ca. |
| 18:27.05 | Kirochi | re ilithie |
| 18:27.25 | Kirochi | (enfin je sais le prononcer à la grecque) |
| 18:27.41 | Adys | (sbien, encore un peu et tu va carrement faire peur!) |
| 18:27.46 | Kirochi | (??) |
| 18:28.00 | Adys | sbon laisse :p |
| 18:28.58 | g0urra | So I heard that france lost against Italy last night |
| 18:29.25 | Sky2042 | g0urra: so, I heard you're right. |
| 18:29.56 | Fisker- | no me Sky2042 |
| 18:30.04 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Fisker-!n=Sky2042@wikimedia/Izno] by Sky2042 (no me.) |
| 18:30.12 | *** join/#wowwiki Fisker- (i=bawww@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 18:30.13 | Fisker- | NO ME |
| 18:30.17 | Sky2042 | fail. |
| 18:30.33 | Fisker- | hey |
| 18:30.51 | Adys | france sucks |
| 18:30.53 | Adys | im glad they lost |
| 18:31.16 | Kirochi | elle est pas bien mon insulte? |
| 18:31.25 | Adys | rien a branler mais alors |
| 18:31.33 | Adys | they are so fucking annoying the entire country with each football event |
| 18:32.13 | Adys | now its to see 2 popular channels fucked right where they should be with bad placement in ads ^^ |
| 18:32.27 | Adys | its like wowwiki, bad ad placement! |
| 18:32.37 | Kirochi | mec t'as pas répondu |
| 18:32.42 | Adys | non mais |
| 18:32.44 | Adys | rien a foutre |
| 18:32.49 | Adys | tu t'imagines pas a quel point |
| 18:33.03 | Kirochi | pourquoi tu m'as demandé alors hé toto? |
| 18:33.23 | Adys | t'iras pas loin avec tout ca stout |
| 18:33.24 | Adys | :P |
| 18:33.27 | Kirochi | http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/resource.php?t=86971 |
| 18:33.39 | Kirochi | bha escuse 1 an de grec, j'ai pas appris que des insultes |
| 18:33.57 | Kirochi | le russe j'ai pas cette prétention, j'ai quelques mots d'avec mon ex stou |
| 18:34.11 | Adys | visiblement t'as pas appris comment on ecrit "excuse" non plus |
| 18:34.28 | Kirochi | pas de taunt sur l'orthographe |
| 18:34.35 | Adys | owi owi. |
| 18:34.36 | Kirochi | en français j'ai rien apprendre de toi :p |
| 18:34.53 | Adys | gros gros fail la |
| 18:35.21 | Kirochi | la dernière fois que j'ai fait une faute d'orthographe involontaire j'ai été envoyé au coin :x |
| 18:35.28 | Adys | haha |
| 18:35.35 | Adys | y'a 3 jours?^^ |
| 18:35.39 | Kirochi | nan |
| 18:35.45 | Kirochi | y'a 13 ans |
| 18:35.52 | Adys | sbien ! |
| 18:36.03 | Adys | maintenant te reste plus que la grammaire ! |
| 18:36.07 | Kirochi | wtf |
| 18:36.12 | Kirochi | stop digging |
| 18:36.18 | Kirochi | demain épreuve de maths >< |
| 18:36.25 | Kirochi | par contre l'anglais easy |
| 18:36.56 | Adys | j'me serais bien moqué de ton accent mais je sais que jsuis probablement aussi mauvais la dessus |
| 18:43.31 | Kirochi | t'aurais été mal |
| 18:43.37 | Kirochi | j'ai un super accent :D |
| 18:44.10 | Kirochi | d'ailleurs je vais faire des interviews en anglais |
| 18:46.36 | Sky2042 | wtf |
| 18:46.54 | Sky2042 | I got a block ad on a page with a table already on it... |
| 18:46.56 | Sky2042 | sigh |
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| 18:53.22 | Sky2042 | IE 9 is being developed? |
| 18:53.24 | Sky2042 | o_o |
| 18:55.49 | pcj | yeah, it supports HTML5 |
| 18:56.08 | Sky2042 | Ah. |
| 18:56.28 | Sky2042 | Why aren't they doing that with IE 8? |
| 18:56.33 | Sky2042 | (or are they?) |
| 18:57.49 | pcj | lol idk |
| 18:57.54 | pcj | where'd you hear about ie9 |
| 18:58.25 | Sky2042 | pcj: it's the source code of a wikia page... :o |
| 18:58.37 | Keolah | Dire Maul West is hell. |
| 18:58.42 | pcj | ah yeah, doesn't exist yet then |
| 18:59.09 | Sky2042 | Keolah: I love West. It's like BRD. xD |
| 18:59.18 | Sky2042 | which i hate brd, but some don't |
| 18:59.27 | Sky2042 | (which doesn't make sense... weeeeee) |
| 18:59.46 | Keolah | I hate BRD too ;p |
| 18:59.50 | Keolah | Toooooo big. ;p |
| 18:59.57 | Sky2042 | Well, yeah. |
| 19:01.07 | Kirochi | brd? |
| 19:01.29 | Kirochi | brd is funfun |
| 19:01.53 | g0urra | http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/viewer.php?artist=samwise&cat=warcraft&art=46 what's that? Jaina and Arthas had a christmas party? |
| 19:02.10 | g0urra | It must be true! |
| 19:02.14 | g0urra | messages Rolandius |
| 19:02.32 | Kirochi | hah |
| 19:02.39 | Sky2042 | thanksgiving? |
| 19:02.40 | Kirochi | the tauren drinking soy milk |
| 19:02.43 | Kirochi | what a wuss |
| 19:02.44 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 19:02.57 | g0urra | Sky2042: it says "Christmas '02" |
| 19:03.05 | Sky2042 | lol... |
| 19:03.05 | Kirochi | and furion shitfaced |
| 19:03.07 | Kirochi | :p |
| 19:03.51 | Kirochi | oh |
| 19:04.06 | Kirochi | there's gonna be a L70ETC concert at the WWI |
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| 19:12.37 | pcj | i don't remember that in my history books |
| 19:13.25 | Kirochi | dun remember wha'? |
| 19:16.09 | pcj | a concert in world war one |
| 19:18.57 | Kirochi | ah |
| 19:18.58 | Kirochi | well |
| 19:19.07 | Kirochi | there was one, arthas was performing |
| 19:21.56 | Fisker- | a concert in your mom pcj |
| 19:26.50 | Sky2042 | we is have patch notes? |
| 19:27.54 | Kirochi | i can has patcehs? |
| 19:30.03 | Sky2042 | zomg, no cooldown on normal mooncloth? |
| 19:33.19 | pcj | "Banker Meeda, in Area 52 is now in the...well...the bank, along with a guild vault and guards. The other three Area 52 bankers are still located in the auction-house-turned-bank. " |
| 19:33.22 | pcj | Auction House? |
| 19:33.36 | g0urra | pcj: see Gadgetzan bank |
| 19:33.53 | g0urra | auction house* |
| 19:34.09 | pcj | what? |
| 19:34.21 | g0urra | the Gadgetzan auction house. |
| 19:34.29 | g0urra | it looks like the Area 52 bank. |
| 19:34.43 | pcj | So? |
| 19:35.23 | g0urra | o.0 mounts at level 30. |
| 19:35.31 | pcj | oooold |
| 19:37.10 | kd3 | gah, edit conflicts |
| 19:37.48 | Jimdinventor | Edit conflicts, passed down to the next generation, resulting in blood feuds. |
| 19:41.38 | pcj | "The quest turn-ins for the AhnQiraj war effort now give the appropriate amount of credit for each successful quest turn-in." |
| 19:41.38 | pcj | woot |
| 19:43.38 | Kirochi | Hell |
| 19:43.42 | Kirochi | It was about time |
| 19:44.15 | Sky2042 | It's about time* |
| 19:44.24 | Sky2042 | chuckles at so-obvious-pun. |
| 19:44.40 | Kirochi | http://bestgamewallpapers.com/files/starcraft-2/hell-its-about-time.jpg |
| 19:46.32 | pcj | "Alcohol cooldowns have been rolled into Drinks: All 10-second cooldowns have been removed and replaced with the 1-second Drink cooldown." |
| 19:46.35 | pcj | wtf does that mean |
| 19:46.58 | Kirochi | ah |
| 19:47.10 | Kirochi | well alcohols had longer cooldowns |
| 19:47.22 | Kirochi | now they're just classified as driks |
| 19:47.24 | Kirochi | drinks |
| 19:47.33 | Sky2042 | kd3: those notes are verifiable where? |
| 19:47.42 | Kirochi | just as water, moon tear soup and camel piss |
| 19:48.37 | Sky2042 | Mounts at 30... |
| 19:48.39 | Sky2042 | my god. |
| 19:48.41 | Sky2042 | what a change |
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| 19:57.43 | Sky2042 | Jimdinventor: some "sayings" can be cited? |
| 19:57.50 | Sky2042 | s/?/. |
| 19:58.17 | Corgan | Fisker- |
| 19:58.23 | Corgan | http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5869/cre0682ee92smlea5ot0.png |
| 19:58.32 | Sky2042 | LOL |
| 19:58.51 | Corgan | lol, like it Sky? |
| 19:58.54 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Buyout&rcid=1398044 |
| 19:58.58 | Sky2042 | no, not your link corgan, mine |
| 19:59.00 | Jimdinventor | They could be, I suspect, but I know of none of these (at the top of ability articles) that are. |
| 19:59.02 | Corgan | pff |
| 19:59.03 | Corgan | :( |
| 19:59.19 | Corgan | goes away |
| 19:59.21 | Sky2042 | Jimdinventor: There are more than a few of the Rogue ones which are. |
| 19:59.49 | Jimdinventor | My knowledge of the rogue content is admittedly sketchy. :-) |
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| 20:00.38 | Sky2042 | I figured it to be so. |
| 20:00.40 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 20:00.59 | Jimdinventor | Make love, not gaping holes in the back, I always say |
| 20:02.05 | Jimdinventor | So, these quotes that are actually quotes, are they cited now? |
| 20:04.44 | Sky2042 | no. but that's what i got from the contributer who first started adding them. |
| 20:04.54 | Sky2042 | good luck citing them |
| 20:04.56 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 20:05.23 | Camicio | http://inconnu.isu.edu/~ink/new/humor/paperclip_suicide.jpg |
| 20:05.32 | Jimdinventor | Heh. Won't be me. Maybe we can get Tycho and Gabe to take some time off from that silly comic they do. They support Wiki, yeah? |
| 20:05.45 | Jimdinventor | Apparently big fans of the TCG as well. |
| 20:07.09 | Jimdinventor | *the wheels begin to turn* -- mmmactually, I shouldn't doubt that the cards are all available to view somewhere on the 'Net. Upper Deck site, more 'n likely.. |
| 20:07.52 | Sky2042 | likely |
| 20:07.57 | Sky2042 | though i doubt in high res. |
| 20:09.46 | Ose|afk | anybody else think Entropius sounds like some sort of fruity thing? |
| 20:09.54 | Kirochi | yeah |
| 20:09.55 | Kirochi | ose |
| 20:10.05 | Kirochi | you've played Pokémon for too long maybe |
| 20:10.11 | Jimdinventor | *snicker* |
| 20:10.35 | Sky2042 | chuckles. |
| 20:12.07 | Kirkburn|afk | kd3, btw, sorry for keeping moving the stuff for the main page - makes it a pain to update the patch stuff I'm sure. Shouldn't move anywhere new though now |
| 20:12.52 | Kirochi | Kirkburn|afk |
| 20:12.59 | Fisker- | slaps Kirkburn|afk around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:13.16 | Kirochi | rage wants me to introduce you to the members of Blizzard I know |
| 20:13.24 | Kirochi | so just stick to me at the WWI |
| 20:13.38 | kd3 | kk |
| 20:13.47 | Fisker- | Tell Aeus that he owes me |
| 20:14.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Kirochi, aye, I got his email - sounds like a good idea |
| 20:15.21 | Fisker- | remember the EU community managers are only there to look cute |
| 20:15.21 | Fisker- | :P |
| 20:15.36 | Fisker- | <-brainfreeze ;_; |
| 20:15.48 | Kirochi | I personally know the EU community managers |
| 20:16.00 | Kirkburn|afk | I have a feeling "Mounts at 30?!" will become a bit of a meme over the next few days ... |
| 20:16.16 | Fisker- | It totally destroyed the level 40 mount picture |
| 20:16.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Kirochi, /bite |
| 20:16.30 | pcj | can someone explain this edit http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Formula:_Enchant_Weapon_-_Spellsurge&diff=1415137&oldid=1415121 to flamered5 |
| 20:16.33 | Fisker- | http://www.warp10.net.au/lvl40.jpg |
| 20:16.34 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 20:16.34 | pcj | ...i'm at a loss |
| 20:17.19 | Fisker- | lol |
| 20:17.23 | Fisker- | he tried to put AH prices on? :P |
| 20:17.31 | Kirochi | why did you bite me, meanie? |
| 20:17.46 | Fisker- | /scratch Kirochi |
| 20:17.53 | Fisker- | i.e. /kitty |
| 20:17.57 | Kirochi | ah |
| 20:18.16 | Kirochi | but the one who bites is the puppy, not the kitty, lest I'm mistaken |
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| 20:18.51 | Kirochi | we were just discussing kittehz & puppehz when you arrived, Ragestorm |
| 20:19.09 | Ragestorm | Do I want to know? |
| 20:19.09 | Sky2042 | lol Kirkburn|afk, that was my thought exactly |
| 20:19.10 | Sky2042 | xD |
| 20:19.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Sky2042, you said I made an astute edit a few days ago, I'm intrigued |
| 20:19.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Ragestorm, thanks for the email :) |
| 20:19.54 | Ragestorm | :) |
| 20:20.20 | Sky2042 | yay! |
| 20:20.28 | Kirochi | you've sent him mail? |
| 20:20.32 | Kirochi | I'm jealous |
| 20:20.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Need to start organising what I'll be doing in Paris, and hobnobbing with a Son of the Storm sounds fun. And Kirochi. Dunno about Adys though :P |
| 20:20.45 | Sky2042 | why are the portal talk pages categorized? |
| 20:20.51 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 20:21.08 | Ragestorm | That's why you're going, boss |
| 20:21.36 | Sky2042 | poor adys |
| 20:21.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Sky2042, I'm assuming that's not my "astute edit" ;) |
| 20:22.00 | Kirkburn|afk | hugs Adys. |
| 20:22.08 | Sky2042 | yes, that was all it was. though if you've made any others, I'd like to know about them! |
| 20:22.33 | Kirkburn|afk | It'll be nice to meet people, really |
| 20:22.42 | Kirkburn|afk | convinces himself |
| 20:23.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Sky2042, I guess I just felt like it |
| 20:23.49 | Sky2042 | heh |
| 20:23.53 | Sky2042 | works for me |
| 20:24.37 | Ragestorm | Yes. It would. If you happen to run into Metzen, ask him to update the Warcraft encyclopedia. |
| 20:24.44 | Kirochi | Kirkburn|afk, I hope I'll have enough spare time for you |
| 20:24.57 | Kirochi | my guild master think's I'm a slave |
| 20:24.57 | Kirkburn|afk | :) |
| 20:25.05 | Ragestorm | Better yet, ask him to e-mail me, but I'm not holding my breath. |
| 20:25.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Perceptive guy, your GM. |
| 20:25.35 | Kirochi | I've been doing lots and lots of small jobs for him lately |
| 20:25.55 | Kirkburn|afk | It'll be interesting to be a journalist for a weekend ... |
| 20:26.07 | Ragestorm | Journalist? |
| 20:26.16 | Kirochi | ranging from entire articles in english about lore to unspeakable acts of depravation in a basement with leather and rugby teams |
| 20:26.37 | Ragestorm | :O |
| 20:27.01 | Ragestorm | Online content clearly NOT rated by the ESRB. |
| 20:27.20 | Kirochi | the ESRB ran away, afraid of me? |
| 20:27.23 | Kirkburn|afk | DuTempete's new main page poll is pretty interesting so far |
| 20:27.27 | Sky2042 | did someone say orgy? |
| 20:27.36 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Sky2042!n=JMW@pool-162-84-148-219.ny5030.east.verizon.net] by Ragestorm (Ragestorm) |
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| 20:27.48 | Sky2042 | chuckles at Ragestorm. |
| 20:28.14 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Polls/Favourite_universe_aspect (man, it looks so sexy when unformatted) |
| 20:28.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Lore is 45% of all votes so far |
| 20:28.28 | Kirochi | oh |
| 20:28.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Raid gameplay is second on 20% |
| 20:28.39 | Kirochi | I thought dutemp was talking about the dragon aspects |
| 20:28.48 | Sky2042 | here's an idea Kirkburn|afk: how about a Portal:News. you can put all the RSS feeds on it, and news we get?... |
| 20:28.55 | Kirochi | I like Ysera cuz she's green, just like my girl's eyes |
| 20:28.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Kirochi, lol |
| 20:28.57 | Ragestorm | edges slightly away from Kirkburn |
| 20:29.13 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn|afk: lurking variable there. |
| 20:29.33 | Sky2042 | sighs at Kirochi. |
| 20:29.41 | Ragestorm | Interesting. WIth the exception of the present company every WoW player I've met doesn't give a damn about lore. |
| 20:29.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Sky2042, I can make little sense too: mighty fine fish you have there. |
| 20:30.07 | Sky2042 | In response to portal:news or lurking variable? |
| 20:30.10 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 20:30.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Lurking variable. |
| 20:30.19 | Sky2042 | ah. |
| 20:30.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Portal:News is pretty reasonable |
| 20:30.25 | Sky2042 | look it up on wikipedia. |
| 20:30.32 | Kirochi | Ragestorm> are lore geeks and hardcore-playing geeks the same amount of fail? |
| 20:30.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Sky2042, similar to http://www.wowwiki.com/RSS_feeds ? |
| 20:30.47 | Sky2042 | hardcore playing geeks are more fail |
| 20:31.15 | Ragestorm | Lore geeks have brains. |
| 20:31.18 | Kirochi | (just waiting for pcj to complete the talk with a resonating "ur mom") |
| 20:31.39 | Corgan | ur mom |
| 20:31.52 | Kirochi | Ragestorm> last time I checked I had a spider up here, maybe she's moved |
| 20:31.55 | Kirkburn|afk | pcj, you look so different today |
| 20:32.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Did you have a haircut? |
| 20:32.19 | Ragestorm | Present company excepted from my above comment. |
| 20:32.25 | Ragestorm | :D |
| 20:32.29 | pcj | what |
| 20:32.32 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn|afk: somewhat. perhaps a redirect from [[WoWWiki:News]] or something... |
| 20:32.38 | Sky2042 | Ragestorm: oh, thanks. -_- |
| 20:32.50 | Kirkburn|afk | pcj, don't worry :) |
| 20:33.06 | Sky2042 | the lurking variable would be that "perhaps more people come to WoWWiki because of the lore, rather than the "other stuff"" |
| 20:33.15 | Kirkburn|afk | Sky2042, oh right |
| 20:33.20 | Kirochi | oh, I know lore |
| 20:33.28 | Sky2042 | hides. |
| 20:33.30 | Kirochi | he's a pretty decent fellow, lore |
| 20:33.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, heh ... this is actually good news for the current lore/tactics split :P |
| 20:33.59 | Ragestorm | No, hardcore players who say "For the Horde!" without knowing who Durotan or Orgim are and who use the word "huntard" fail way more than lore geeks. |
| 20:34.10 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn|afk: heh. |
| 20:34.18 | Sky2042 | nice conclusion, i think. |
| 20:34.42 | Kirkburn|afk | I have an awesome girlfriend, if I may say so :P |
| 20:34.57 | Kirochi | ah |
| 20:35.03 | Kirochi | Does she come in... |
| 20:35.04 | Kirochi | Handy? |
| 20:35.05 | Sky2042 | tells Ragestorm to arbitrarily make Warthok Keeper of the Dragons - Lorekeeper. |
| 20:35.06 | Kirochi | :D |
| 20:35.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Need to think of some more polls like that, they're useful for guiding the site |
| 20:35.15 | Sky2042 | Bookkeeper* |
| 20:35.19 | g0urra | russians bastards |
| 20:35.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Kirochi, yes she does come in... |
| 20:35.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Handy |
| 20:35.27 | Sky2042 | sighs. |
| 20:35.33 | Ragestorm | Sky2042: I agree |
| 20:35.36 | Sky2042 | How quick the Internet is to turn to innuendo. |
| 20:35.45 | Kirochi | the internet |
| 20:35.50 | Kirochi | is really really great |
| 20:36.15 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyway, I'm afk dammit. Will chat more about WWI meetup over the week :) |
| 20:36.29 | Kirochi | yeah |
| 20:36.37 | Kirochi | I just need to complete my exam week |
| 20:36.43 | Kirochi | tomorrow is the last stand |
| 20:36.44 | Sky2042 | wtf...? |
| 20:37.09 | Kirochi | g0urra |
| 20:37.12 | Kirochi | are you swedish? |
| 20:37.14 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Portal:World_of_Warcraft&curid=112190&diff=1415148&oldid=1404392 is showing up without the banner on the main page... |
| 20:37.17 | Sky2042 | I think he is. |
| 20:37.31 | Sky2042 | s/banner/block |
| 20:37.33 | g0urra | Kirochi: yes. |
| 20:37.42 | Kirochi | FRA passed |
| 20:38.02 | Kirochi | FRA gick igenom |
| 20:38.04 | g0urra | ... |
| 20:38.24 | g0urra | and I thought the day couldn't get any worse |
| 20:38.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Sky2042, aye, the double ads only target the main page atm - /might/ change |
| 20:38.50 | Kirochi | some day you had to pay for your marvelous communications network |
| 20:38.57 | Ragestorm | Does anyone else get the impression that User:Kesmana is a sock puppet? |
| 20:39.06 | Kirochi | of whom? |
| 20:39.13 | Ragestorm | M1330 |
| 20:39.40 | Ragestorm | Her advoation of "his" Sylvanas picture is not normal. |
| 20:39.48 | Ragestorm | *advocation |
| 20:39.51 | Kirochi | well you're the admin, have you got any IP records? |
| 20:40.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Only staff can checkuser |
| 20:40.18 | Ragestorm | Which I am not. |
| 20:40.27 | Sky2042 | tell Kirkburn|afk to checkuser. |
| 20:40.31 | Sky2042 | tells* |
| 20:40.47 | Sky2042 | Ragestorm: i don't think so, though i haven't yet looked far into it. |
| 20:40.50 | Ragestorm | I'm not making a formal accusation, boss, it's just wird |
| 20:40.57 | Ragestorm | *weird. |
| 20:42.03 | Kirochi | is checkuser a tiring and/or long process to perform? |
| 20:43.05 | Kirkburn|afk | For the servers, yes |
| 20:43.09 | Sky2042 | hmm |
| 20:43.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, it's not that bad |
| 20:43.27 | Sky2042 | only because checkuser wasn't made for wikia's unique naming method. |
| 20:43.29 | Ragestorm | Like I said, this is just something I noticed. |
| 20:43.33 | Kirkburn|afk | But the issue is more of privacy |
| 20:44.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Sky2042, lookupcontribs works fantastically fast these days :) |
| 20:44.06 | Ragestorm | It's just as likely, if not more so, that she just REALLY likes that picture. |
| 20:44.10 | Sky2042 | bah Kirkburn|afk, that's a copout on privacy. that's just the reason that the majority of people don't get to use it. |
| 20:44.59 | Kirochi | just like the FRA in Sweden :P |
| 20:45.18 | g0urra | Yeah right |
| 20:45.59 | Kirochi | g0urra when you see big brother greet him for me |
| 20:46.10 | g0urra | ~kill Kirochi |
| 20:46.10 | infobot | ACTION shoots a excited anti-tachyon gun at Kirochi |
| 20:46.31 | Kirochi | ~rickroll g0urra |
| 20:46.38 | g0urra | ~fail |
| 20:46.39 | infobot | Sorry, g0urra, you have failed. |
| 20:46.42 | g0urra | WHAT |
| 20:46.47 | Kirochi | HAHA |
| 20:46.50 | Kirochi | OWNED |
| 20:47.23 | Kirochi | you got pizzowned by your own |
| 20:47.50 | g0urra | Kirochi, you mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberry! |
| 20:47.57 | Kirochi | Ragestorm, do we have a future as bookkeepers? |
| 20:48.01 | Kirochi | ah |
| 20:48.09 | Kirochi | monty python lovers here? |
| 20:48.31 | Kirochi | today books are mainly used as bum wad |
| 20:50.25 | Jimdinventor | A template that requests a picture -- is that a kind of stub? The Flight Form page could benefit from a tauren/night elf comparison image, like the other forms have. |
| 20:50.50 | Kirochi | back |
| 20:50.52 | g0urra | What are you suggesting? |
| 20:50.53 | foxlit | {{screenshot}}, I think |
| 20:51.08 | foxlit | as in {{screenshot|cow crow, please}} |
| 20:51.09 | Dotted | foxlit meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:screenshot |
| 20:51.23 | Jimdinventor | Thank you, Foxlit. g0urra - just anything that shows the tauren golden brown would be nice |
| 20:51.42 | g0urra | tauren golden brown what |
| 20:51.59 | Jimdinventor | ... Flight Form. They're not black, like the Alliance. |
| 20:52.41 | g0urra | {{Zone Map}} |
| 20:52.42 | Dotted | g0urra meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Zone_Map |
| 20:52.52 | g0urra | Hmm |
| 20:53.57 | g0urra | Just find the flight from image? |
| 20:54.02 | g0urra | s/from/form/ |
| 20:54.03 | Kirkburn|afk | So about that checkuser |
| 20:54.24 | Kirkburn|afk | They are ... the same. |
| 20:54.28 | g0urra | Lol |
| 20:54.32 | Sky2042 | touche Ragestorm. |
| 20:54.39 | Ragestorm | Hmm? |
| 20:54.49 | Sky2042 | >So about that checkuser |
| 20:54.51 | Sky2042 | They are ... the same. |
| 20:55.32 | Kirkburn|afk | I don't suggest takign action, though perhaps a note saying that backing yourself up in an argument is a bit cheeky |
| 20:55.44 | Jimdinventor | heh, the purpose of the stub is to ask ''someone who has time'' to find that image, g0urra -- I want to complete the Druid abilities today. |
| 20:56.25 | Ragestorm | I'm not planning on doing anything. Ever since I refused to ban Rolandius, M1330 |
| 20:56.43 | Kirochi | haha |
| 20:56.45 | Ragestorm | 's been silent, and Kesmana is ensconsed in that cesspit I never visit. |
| 20:56.52 | Kirochi | maybe I'll add the note myself |
| 20:57.05 | kd3 | high elves are blue-eyed, right? it's blood elves with green? |
| 20:57.16 | Kirochi | ehm |
| 20:57.18 | Sky2042 | kd3: i think so. |
| 20:57.18 | Kirochi | not really |
| 20:57.25 | Kirochi | both have green and blue eyes |
| 20:57.58 | Ragestorm | High Elves have naturally blue or green eyes, Blood elves have "fel glow" green eyes. |
| 20:58.34 | Kirochi | and felblood elves have |
| 20:58.36 | Kirochi | creepy eyes |
| 20:58.40 | Kirkburn|afk | They might have blue eyes, but you wouldn't know it from the BURNING EYES, THE BURNING EYES! |
| 20:58.44 | Kirochi | is creepy a colour? |
| 20:59.18 | Kirochi | g0urra |
| 20:59.19 | Ragestorm | Depends on what you've been smoking. |
| 20:59.20 | Kirochi | g0urra |
| 20:59.23 | g0urra | Kirochi |
| 20:59.24 | g0urra | Kirochi |
| 20:59.26 | Kirochi | I have good news for you |
| 20:59.27 | Kirochi | <Bat4Dead\HNS> uhm |
| 20:59.27 | Kirochi | <Bat4Dead\HNS> den är ju frasmskjutning |
| 20:59.27 | Kirochi | <@^Dopefish> yeah, until this evening |
| 20:59.27 | Kirochi | <@^Dopefish> and it went through an hour ago |
| 20:59.27 | Kirochi | <Bat4Dead\HNS> hrm |
| 20:59.29 | Kirochi | <Bat4Dead\HNS> lets all start searching for childporn |
| 20:59.31 | Kirochi | <@^Dopefish> I rather search on how to build bombs and start writing down addresses for politicians |
| 20:59.33 | Kirochi | <Bat4Dead\HNS> hmm good idea |
| 20:59.35 | Kirochi | LA RESISTANCE |
| 20:59.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Um, don't spam please :) |
| 20:59.43 | kd3 | ^ |
| 20:59.45 | Kirochi | sorry |
| 20:59.48 | Ragestorm | ^ |
| 20:59.50 | g0urra | ^ |
| 20:59.52 | Kirochi | but sweden is endangered |
| 21:00.17 | Kirkburn|afk | From what? Polar bears? |
| 21:00.22 | Kirochi | no |
| 21:00.24 | Kirochi | its own gov |
| 21:00.26 | Ragestorm | Vikings? |
| 21:00.35 | Kirochi | they don't have enough terrorists |
| 21:00.44 | Kirkburn|afk | It has a government made up of vikings and polar bears? |
| 21:00.45 | g0urra | NEEDS MOAR DRAMA |
| 21:00.48 | g0urra | I mean wtf |
| 21:00.51 | Ragestorm | <slams head against a table, |
| 21:00.54 | Kirochi | so they've made up a big brother law just to have them come over |
| 21:01.11 | g0urra | It's ridicilous |
| 21:01.38 | g0urra | "We don't know what threats we'll have in the future, but if we go through with this then we /might/ find those secret terrorists!" |
| 21:05.42 | Kirochi | This is just an invitation to terrorists to come over and have their share of busty swedish blondes and democracy |
| 21:05.47 | g0urra | Kirochi: luckily it's not going in use until 1 January 2009 |
| 21:06.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Now that I've used checkuser once, I feel a bit more comfortable using it again, but it'll still have to be sparingly. (And actually the results were very fast) |
| 21:07.03 | Kirochi | I love my swedish blondes |
| 21:07.22 | Kirochi | so kirk what are the results? |
| 21:08.12 | g0urra | <Kirkburn|afk> So about that checkuser |
| 21:08.12 | g0urra | <Kirkburn|afk> They are ... the same. |
| 21:08.24 | g0urra | 14 minutes ago Kirochi |
| 21:08.24 | g0urra | gg |
| 21:09.30 | Kirkburn|afk | (there's no rule against people having alternate accounts, only against abuse) |
| 21:09.34 | Kirochi | sorry |
| 21:09.40 | Kirochi | well |
| 21:09.42 | Kirochi | he abused |
| 21:09.52 | Kirochi | he made us think kesmana was a chick |
| 21:09.55 | Kirochi | that's evil |
| 21:10.02 | Sky2042 | Ragestorm: I see what you mean (referring to earlier) |
| 21:10.11 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 21:10.15 | Ragestorm | Hmm? |
| 21:10.36 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn|afk: i'm pretty sure there's no rule against abusing them either. |
| 21:10.37 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 21:11.53 | Kirochi | ok |
| 21:12.02 | Kirochi | let us not talk falsely now |
| 21:12.05 | Kirochi | the hour is getting late |
| 21:14.31 | Kirochi | bye |
| 21:14.37 | *** join/#wowwiki MentalPower (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 21:14.38 | Kirochi | it was nice seeing you around ragestorm |
| 21:14.50 | Ragestorm | G'night. |
| 21:14.55 | Kirochi | you proved us you had fast enough fingers to chat with us lot |
| 21:14.56 | Ragestorm | Kirkburn |
| 21:15.06 | Ragestorm | take not of this. |
| 21:15.11 | Ragestorm | *note |
| 21:15.42 | Ragestorm | People other than me actually take a break! |
| 21:15.59 | Kirochi | who are you talking about? |
| 21:17.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Ragestorm, that's crazy talk :P |
| 21:17.53 | Sky2042 | didn't contribute all of yesterday. That counts as a break, right? |
| 21:18.17 | Ragestorm | Fine. But let it not be said I don't try to keep my bosses alive. |
| 21:24.31 | *** join/#wowwiki Bagginsww (n=baggins@cpe-66-91-123-82.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 21:24.31 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Bagginsww] by ChanServ |
| 21:24.41 | pcj | sky2042 when are you going to delete my spell sds |
| 21:24.55 | Sky2042 | pcj: see #wikia |
| 21:24.57 | Sky2042 | ^^ |
| 21:25.03 | pcj | what |
| 21:25.13 | Sky2042 | oh, nvm, you weren't there. |
| 21:25.20 | Sky2042 | [14:23]|<--andres41 has left chat.freenode.net (Client Quit) |
| 21:25.21 | pcj | why |
| 21:25.22 | Sky2042 | <JSharp>good news for all that use #cvn-wikia :) a fix has been made to Special:Log notifications that provides information about where the log event occurred so now we can tell where they're happening :) |
| 21:25.24 | Sky2042 | <Sky2042>that's nice. |
| 21:25.25 | Sky2042 | * Sky2042thinks about spamming the new-and-improved #cvn-wikia |
| 21:26.02 | pcj | so? |
| 21:27.18 | Sky2042 | thinks Kirkburn|afk being arbitrary right now would be really sweet. |
| 21:27.21 | Sky2042 | chuckles. |
| 21:33.47 | Bagginsww | anyone know what coobra is referring to? http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas#Owlkin.3F |
| 21:34.37 | Ose | can anyone tell why http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Raidprogress/Cell fails at making table? |
| 21:34.38 | Sky2042 | He's saying that one of the races on future race ideas is disqualified by one of the items on the "qualifier" list, but since he can't talk about it, he can't tell you which and why. |
| 21:35.08 | Sky2042 | Ose: "|" |
| 21:35.22 | Ose | you fix, kk? |
| 21:36.02 | Sky2042 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.51 | Bagginsww | I know what he means, I was wondering if anyone knew :p |
| 21:37.13 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: it doesn't matter. /they can't tell you/ |
| 21:37.15 | Ose | Sky2042: but you know how to, I don't |
| 21:37.22 | Sky2042 | did you not understand the first time Bagginsww? |
| 21:37.40 | Sky2042 | Ose: so learn. :) |
| 21:37.57 | Bagginsww | lets see not the first time I've seen people discussing things in here, and posting screenshots before they get deleted :p |
| 21:38.18 | Sky2042 | And? |
| 21:38.29 | Sky2042 | Neither of which are excuses for their behavior. |
| 21:38.45 | Bagginsww | I mean a one word, "centaur" is hardly going to be earth shattering :p |
| 21:39.09 | Bagginsww | centaur being an example of something on the page |
| 21:39.23 | Sky2042 | sigh. |
| 21:39.45 | Sky2042 | "Is hardly going to be earth-shattering" is the logic used by NDA breakers in the first place. |
| 21:39.46 | Ose | *mumble*nathrezim?*mumble* |
| 21:40.15 | Bagginsww | hah hah LOL |
| 21:40.17 | Ose | is ready to be jabbed |
| 21:40.31 | Bagginsww | the problem with NDA breaker sis that they go into more than just one word |
| 21:40.33 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Ose!n=Sky2042@wikimedia/Izno] by Sky2042 (imagine this is a jab.) |
| 21:41.03 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: Stop trying to get around it Bagginsww. You should know better. |
| 21:41.15 | Bagginsww | technically with what coobra said I could probably elminate possibliities |
| 21:41.30 | Bagginsww | what he said maybe gave away too much info |
| 21:41.45 | Bagginsww | you can elminate arrakoa |
| 21:41.55 | Bagginsww | you can eliminate centaur |
| 21:42.06 | Sky2042 | jesus. |
| 21:42.07 | Bagginsww | we already know the favored children can talk |
| 21:42.22 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: Srsly, just drop it until the info can be posted. |
| 21:42.24 | Sky2042 | >_< |
| 21:42.38 | Sky2042 | pcj: jesus, you've been busy. |
| 21:42.51 | Bagginsww | well my reasons were rolly polly, and hardly sentient |
| 21:43.10 | Bagginsww | that eliminates quite a few possibilities |
| 21:43.29 | Bagginsww | and we know its gotta be in northrend |
| 21:43.36 | Bagginsww | process of elimination |
| 21:43.47 | Bagginsww | so nothing seen inoutland or other continents |
| 21:44.23 | Bagginsww | murlock oracles are kinda rolly polly |
| 21:44.28 | Bagginsww | *murloc |
| 21:44.33 | Bagginsww | or whatever that artwork is |
| 21:44.36 | Bagginsww | that's speculated on |
| 21:44.40 | *** join/#wowwiki Ose (n=chatzill@static142-224.adsl.no) |
| 21:44.54 | *** join/#wowwiki MentalPower (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 21:44.59 | Bagginsww | furbolg are kinda big and bulky |
| 21:45.05 | Bagginsww | yet we know they have a culture |
| 21:45.10 | Bagginsww | and can speak |
| 21:45.20 | Ose | Sky2042: TELL ME WHAT IS WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:45.28 | Sky2042 | I did. |
| 21:45.35 | Sky2042 | You have "|" all over the place. |
| 21:45.54 | Sky2042 | actually, drop all the html comments and use newlines instead |
| 21:45.56 | Sky2042 | that might help |
| 21:46.04 | Bagginsww | tuskarr are rolly poly :p |
| 21:46.05 | kd3 | hokay, the two PTR icons are up |
| 21:46.11 | Bagginsww | but we knew that from the artwork :p |
| 21:46.27 | Bagginsww | but they can speak |
| 21:46.36 | Ragestorm | He's probably talking about Nerubians or something. Let it go. |
| 21:46.52 | Bagginsww | and worgen are largely less than sentient although they can "speak" |
| 21:47.00 | Bagginsww | but thelore already said that :p |
| 21:48.28 | Bagginsww | nerubians are certainly bulky ragestorm, they can speak, and they don't wear clothes we knew that already in warcraft III ;) |
| 21:49.07 | Ragestorm | I don't really care. We're talking about the page I call "the cesspit." |
| 21:50.04 | Bagginsww | it is of course a hive of scum |
| 21:53.31 | Sky2042 | pcj: ew.... the ads are rendering above the tooltips; ie, when there's a conflict, the ad is above the tooltip |
| 21:53.43 | pcj | what |
| 21:53.56 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell:28093 |
| 21:54.05 | Sky2042 | if there's a banner, that tooltip will render beneath it |
| 21:54.35 | pcj | it shouldn't |
| 21:54.43 | pcj | tooltips have a zindex of 999 |
| 21:55.10 | Sky2042 | is it doing so for you, or just me? |
| 21:55.42 | pcj | well i use the wowwiki skin so i don't get any ads even with adblock off, one sec |
| 21:56.11 | Sky2042 | (there's no ads on wowwiki?) |
| 21:56.23 | pcj | nope... |
| 21:56.27 | Sky2042 | :o |
| 21:56.41 | pcj | why do you think they made the monaco skin the default |
| 21:56.47 | Sky2042 | they're going to put them on monobook, but don't mention that fact to k*irkburn |
| 21:56.56 | g0urra | Lol. |
| 21:57.05 | Sky2042 | (and so far as i can tell, wowwiki != monobook) |
| 21:57.15 | Ose | hmm... i'd better get to sleep... have to get up in 5 hours... |
| 21:57.33 | pcj | that will really have to take some thought how to make the tooltips avoid ads |
| 21:57.45 | pcj | since the ads don't seem to have a declared zindex |
| 21:58.09 | Ose | oh, and i'll be gone for a while (Paris!). If anyone wants to work on {{Raidprogress}}, be my guest |
| 21:59.16 | Sky2042 | pcj: if it's not declared, that might be a bug on wikia's part :/ |
| 22:00.43 | pcj | no it's probably a "feature" with Flash |
| 22:00.51 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 22:01.16 | Sky2042 | oooo, beach volleyball is on. |
| 22:01.19 | Bagginsww | but ya worgen are confirmed to be wrath on the worgen page, on an linked article. I haven't seen that article to see where its from but yomight want to check tos ee if it is a fan site and possibly breaking nda |
| 22:01.21 | Sky2042 | (wimenz) |
| 22:02.04 | Bagginsww | generally speaking you can only trust professional industry magazines to not break the NDA |
| 22:02.10 | Bagginsww | otherwise they'd be sued |
| 22:03.07 | g0urra | Bagginsww: http://www.worldofwar.net/articles/413336/wotlk-report-may-2008/page5 |
| 22:03.22 | g0urra | "Arthas discovered Arugal's activities and brought him back from the dead to work for him, so now there are a lot of Worgen in Northrend and in particular, Grizzly Hills." |
| 22:03.34 | Bagginsww | fan site |
| 22:03.41 | Bagginsww | I'd consider that possibly nda breaking... |
| 22:03.43 | g0urra | First page: "Earlier in the week, we were invited to attend a Wrath of the Lich King presentation at Blizzard's offices in Irvine, California." |
| 22:03.48 | Sky2042 | you didn't even look at the link, did you |
| 22:03.55 | Bagginsww | just did |
| 22:04.13 | Bagginsww | let's see being invited and "allowed to talk" are two different things |
| 22:04.40 | Bagginsww | I've once went on a tour of Sierra back when it was around |
| 22:04.46 | Bagginsww | and had to sign a NDA |
| 22:05.03 | g0urra | Bagginsww: what about all the other fansites who were invited and wrote about it? |
| 22:05.15 | Bagginsww | have you ever seen the law on the NDA? |
| 22:05.25 | g0urra | Have you been at that meeting? |
| 22:05.34 | Bagginsww | they are pretty clear that you can see this but are you allowed to speak |
| 22:05.57 | Bagginsww | no, I haven't but just pointing out my experience with NDA |
| 22:06.04 | Ose | Kesmana is M1330? |
| 22:06.08 | Bagginsww | that doens't mean people don't break things |
| 22:06.13 | g0urra | Ose: yes |
| 22:06.28 | Bagginsww | an industry magazine on the other hand is less likely to break things |
| 22:06.37 | Ose | L |
| 22:06.38 | Bagginsww | because they would be more worthwhile to sue |
| 22:06.39 | Ose | O |
| 22:06.41 | Ose | L |
| 22:06.46 | Ose | damn you baggins |
| 22:07.11 | Bagginsww | and you do hear about the lawsuits all the time if you keep up with the gaming industry news :p |
| 22:07.32 | Ose | well, cya folks |
| 22:07.41 | pcj | kirkburn banner ads are always at the top right |
| 22:07.46 | Bagginsww | but ya, I'd make sure to veriify infoheard through profesisonal sites as well |
| 22:08.13 | g0urra | IGN has coverage on that "visit" too |
| 22:08.17 | g0urra | http://pc.ign.com/articles/872/872841p1.html |
| 22:08.25 | Bagginsww | then they should be the primary link |
| 22:08.32 | Bagginsww | on the page |
| 22:08.55 | Bagginsww | I'm just saying that we shouldn't rely on fansite only |
| 22:09.10 | g0urra | Because IGN is more reliable than worldofwar? |
| 22:09.14 | Bagginsww | professinal gaming mags should be considered slightly more reliable |
| 22:09.20 | Bagginsww | its a professional company |
| 22:09.33 | Bagginsww | a bit easier to sue |
| 22:10.13 | Bagginsww | sue a fansite and you might cost more than what you actually get out of it :p |
| 22:11.42 | Bagginsww | but ya post both links. not just world of war. |
| 22:12.02 | Bagginsww | that way you can avoid any moral gray areas |
| 22:12.17 | Bagginsww | of legal gray areas :p |
| 22:12.21 | Bagginsww | *or |
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| 22:17.04 | g0urra | and I just wondered what window I shut down earlier.. |
| 22:17.52 | Bagginsww | window? |
| 22:18.24 | g0urra | I have my xchat in windowed mode. |
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| 22:20.24 | Adys | [00:19:14] <g0urra> +Because IGN is more reliable than worldofwar? |
| 22:20.32 | Adys | because worldofwar is reliable? |
| 22:21.22 | |Pixel| | relia-what ? |
| 22:21.39 | Kirkburn|sleep | Night all |
| 22:22.04 | Ragestorm | <blink> |
| 22:22.16 | Ragestorm | Seriously. He's actually sleeping. |
| 22:22.55 | Ragestorm | I think Kil'jaeden's coming through. |
| 22:24.39 | pcj | perfect, it's fixed sky |
| 22:25.35 | Sky2042_afk | pcj: what did you do? |
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| 22:33.09 | pcj | if the banner exists |
| 22:33.13 | pcj | and presuming that it's always at the top |
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| 22:33.27 | pcj | i made the tooltip check to see if it's within a certain distance to the top of the page |
| 22:33.35 | pcj | and if so and if the banner ad exists it flips down |
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| 23:05.33 | Bagginsww | gourra if your moving all categories to lower case I'll start next article as such |
| 23:05.45 | Bagginsww | should it be npc classes? or NPC classes? |
| 23:05.59 | g0urra | NPC classes |
| 23:06.13 | g0urra | Seeing as NPC is an acronym |
| 23:06.19 | g0urra | or abbreviation |
| 23:06.28 | g0urra | Non-Playable Character |
| 23:06.49 | Bagginsww | I know :p |
| 23:07.00 | Bagginsww | although not all acronyms are capitalized LOL |
| 23:07.05 | Bagginsww | thus why I was asking |
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| 23:08.08 | g0urra | What's a "NPC class" anyway? |
| 23:09.23 | Bagginsww | not playable by characters |
| 23:09.30 | Bagginsww | like |
| 23:09.33 | Bagginsww | [[soldier]] |
| 23:09.34 | Dotted | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/soldier |
| 23:10.14 | Bagginsww | used only for npcs, or represent an npc |
| 23:10.17 | Ackis | alert: I am back |
| 23:10.38 | Ackis | points that to a different channel |
| 23:10.54 | Bagginsww | for example monk would represent an npc class in WoW |
| 23:11.17 | g0urra | Bagginsww: I presume the cult mentioned is Cult of the Damned (I'm editing right now) |
| 23:11.29 | Bagginsww | um oops ya |
| 23:11.43 | Bagginsww | hmm we need a class section for faction boxes |
| 23:13.28 | g0urra | "Were you looking for the well-known European professions official forum poster named Tinker?" what? |
| 23:14.09 | kd3 | o_O; |
| 23:14.48 | g0urra | [[Tinker]] |
| 23:14.48 | Dotted | g0urra meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Tinker |
| 23:15.17 | Bagginsww | huh? is right |
| 23:15.57 | g0urra | Bagginsww: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Tinker&curid=69530&diff=1415366&oldid=1414297 |
| 23:16.42 | Bagginsww | I have no idea LOL |
| 23:22.03 | Bagginsww | gourra could you add a class section to the faction box? |
| 23:22.12 | Bagginsww | optional would be preferred |
| 23:24.29 | g0urra | Done |
| 23:25.30 | g0urra | use character= |
| 23:26.59 | g0urra | !jobqueue |
| 23:27.06 | Bagginsww | thanks |
| 23:27.14 | Dotted | The WoWWiki job queue length is currently 9925 |
| 23:27.50 | g0urra | !jobqueue |
| 23:27.50 | Dotted | The WoWWiki job queue length is currently 10119 |
| 23:27.56 | g0urra | o.0 |
| 23:29.49 | Bagginsww | that will save having to make sections discussing every class variant :p |
| 23:30.20 | Bagginsww | on the faction page I mean |
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| 23:34.02 | g0urra | !jobqueue |
| 23:34.17 | Dotted | The WoWWiki job queue length is currently 10119 |
| 23:34.32 | g0urra | liar |
| 23:34.34 | g0urra | !jobqueue |
| 23:34.34 | Dotted | The WoWWiki job queue length is currently 10119 |
| 23:34.38 | Bagginsww | gourra why did you remove hte artwork from vindicator |
| 23:34.47 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.11 | Bagginsww | oh never mind you didn't |
| 23:35.13 | Bagginsww | now to track who did |
| 23:35.23 | g0urra | You did. |
| 23:35.26 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Vindicator&curid=96897&action=history |
| 23:35.40 | Bagginsww | lol accidnetly it seems |
| 23:35.45 | Bagginsww | thanks |
| 23:37.05 | Bagginsww | fixed |
| 23:53.24 | Bagginsww | http://www.gastateparks.org/info/blackrock/ hah hah |
| 23:57.14 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:City:Thunder_Bluff finally |
| 23:59.42 | g0urra | and I'm off to bed, good night |
