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| 00:12.06 | pcj | we should add flash stuff to wowwiki |
| 00:12.13 | pcj | what do you think adys |
| 00:12.26 | Sky2042 | eeps. Funny you should mention that. |
| 00:12.38 | Adys | lol pcj |
| 00:12.44 | Adys | you know i thought about it for a while? |
| 00:12.50 | Adys | i even have some blueprints ready |
| 00:13.17 | pcj | blueprints? |
| 00:13.29 | Adys | yes |
| 00:13.47 | Adys | the original interactive model viewer :) |
| 00:14.14 | pcj | indeed |
| 00:14.27 | Adys | and in between other things a street-view-ish engine |
| 00:14.32 | Adys | but shh :) |
| 00:14.46 | pcj | OK I WON'T TELL ANYONE |
| 00:15.01 | Sky2042 | wonders about Adys. |
| 00:15.02 | Adys | THANK YOU KINDLY ASSHOLE |
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| 00:15.07 | Sky2042 | HI KASO |
| 00:15.09 | Adys | speaking of assholes! |
| 00:15.25 | Sky2042 | He's a KASHOLE |
| 00:15.27 | Kaso | Hi sky! |
| 00:15.28 | Sky2042 | ;o |
| 00:15.29 | pcj | ohohoho |
| 00:15.31 | Kaso | fu adys! |
| 00:15.32 | Adys | that was directed to you sky |
| 00:15.35 | Kaso | fu you too! |
| 00:15.39 | Kaso | Why asshole? |
| 00:15.44 | Sky2042 | Adys: not my fault you timed it badly. |
| 00:15.52 | Adys | WELL YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THERE ARE THINGS YOU DONT TELL PEOPLE LIKE YOU |
| 00:16.36 | Adys | Besides, it was directed to sky. |
| 00:16.55 | Kaso | im sorry then adys |
| 00:17.17 | pcj | no you're not |
| 00:17.36 | Adys | yes he is you sucker |
| 00:17.54 | pcj | prove it |
| 00:18.07 | Adys | By the way Kaso you got just about 43 mins left to wish me a happy bday. :( |
| 00:18.30 | Sky2042 | happy bdays Adys. |
| 00:18.31 | pcj | gg kaso |
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| 00:18.55 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Sky2042!n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys] by Adys (Adys) |
| 00:18.55 | Kaso | Happy birthday my awesome friend! |
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| 00:19.15 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Adys_!n=Sky2042@wikimedia/Izno] by Sky2042 (that one too) |
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| 00:19.19 | Adys | try more |
| 00:19.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Happy birthday Adys, and stop kicking Sky2042 |
| 00:19.26 | Adys | Kaso: ping btw |
| 00:19.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Er, missed a comma :P |
| 00:19.53 | pcj | yeah, stop kicking, sky2042 |
| 00:19.55 | Sky2042 | He started it! |
| 00:20.02 | Kirkburn|afk | In fact, both ways work :) |
| 00:20.03 | Adys | no i didnt |
| 00:20.08 | Adys | he started it! |
| 00:20.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Now now, children |
| 00:20.15 | Sky2042 | No he did! |
| 00:20.20 | pcj | adys started it by having a birthday |
| 00:20.29 | Adys | fuck off that was years ago |
| 00:21.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, I love a community that gets on :) |
| 00:21.55 | Adys | shut up! |
| 00:22.00 | Sky2042 | yeah, shut up! |
| 00:22.02 | Adys | or i get you in the quotes |
| 00:22.41 | DuTempete | HAPPY BIRTHDAY ADYS!!!!one!!!un!!!eleven |
| 00:22.44 | pcj | you'd like him in the quotes |
| 00:23.35 | Adys | DuTempete: wtf how did you know?! |
| 00:23.39 | g0urra | ~wwquotes |
| 00:23.40 | infobot | http://teo.selfip.net/wowwiki-quotes.html |
| 00:23.50 | Adys | (by thw way you are all hours late it was yesterday, but forgiven) |
| 00:23.51 | DuTempete | a little bird told me |
| 00:24.04 | Adys | pcj zip back your little bird |
| 00:24.05 | DuTempete | oh, well, blame the little bird |
| 00:24.19 | DuTempete | as he also forgot to wishyou a birthday on the proper day |
| 00:28.27 | g0urra | why is it 2:28 am in the morning :( |
| 00:29.16 | Adys | because it cant be 2:28 am in the evening |
| 00:29.21 | Adys | nor 2:28pm in the morning |
| 00:29.22 | g0urra | True |
| 00:30.05 | Sky2042 | g0urra: better question is, why the hell are you up? |
| 00:31.00 | g0urra | Ssso much to gather, ssso much to catalog... |
| 00:31.36 | Sky2042 | g0urra: it's a wiki. it'll be there when you wake up. |
| 00:31.50 | Adys | why? |
| 00:32.06 | Adys | you think wikis are less prone to inconsistent vanishes than other websites? |
| 00:32.39 | Sky2042 | Adys: by no means do I mean it so. |
| 00:32.40 | g0urra | Sky2042: so if I don't wake up it will cease to exist? |
| 00:33.02 | Sky2042 | g0urra: its existence is not dependant on your state of wakefulness |
| 00:33.03 | Adys | no g0urra he'd have said "it'll be back when you'll wake up" then |
| 00:33.11 | g0urra | :> |
| 00:33.14 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 00:47.46 | Adys | night peeps |
| 00:57.50 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Loot#Removed_ifexist |
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| 04:08.43 | Joopmicroop | someone from sylvanas server here? |
| 04:09.10 | pcj | sylvanas eu? |
| 04:09.47 | Joopmicroop | yes eu |
| 04:10.24 | pcj | nope |
| 04:10.31 | Joopmicroop | aaah to bad... |
| 04:10.58 | Joopmicroop | can you suggest some good channels for that? |
| 04:12.38 | pcj | irc://irc.quakenet.org:6667/wow.sylvanas |
| 04:15.22 | Joopmicroop | ah nice |
| 04:15.36 | Joopmicroop | tkx very much :) |
| 04:16.42 | pcj | kd3, ping |
| 04:16.57 | kd3 | pong |
| 04:17.21 | Joopmicroop | this channel is now tagged as a favo :) |
| 04:17.32 | pcj | someone's been making server pages in the portal namespace, you may want to watch that and make sure they copy the content into the appropriate server page then delete |
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| 04:28.43 | NSB|Lint | Is Pcj hiding in the chan? |
| 04:28.54 | pcj | Why |
| 04:28.57 | Sky2042 | usually |
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| 05:04.41 | Sky2042 | fuckin christ |
| 05:04.44 | Sky2042 | that wasa unilateral |
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| 05:12.14 | Sky2042 | oh fuck. |
| 05:12.41 | Joopmicroop | doesn't go good there so it seems... |
| 05:13.08 | Sky2042 | every once in a while, you need to wonder.. |
| 05:13.27 | Joopmicroop | about? |
| 05:14.03 | Sky2042 | how easy it is to make mistakes in life. |
| 05:14.14 | pcj | good work sky |
| 05:14.19 | pcj | hey adys sky2042 messed up again |
| 05:15.04 | pcj | i think we'll start calling him fandy |
| 05:15.12 | Joopmicroop | humm good excuse... I'm going to back to developing |
| 05:15.18 | Sky2042 | i fix my mistakes pcj. |
| 05:15.20 | Sky2042 | -_- |
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| 05:19.26 | pcj | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs3SfNANtig |
| 05:20.47 | Sky2042 | lol! |
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| 08:16.38 | Sky2042 | wait, i was getting off... |
| 08:22.05 | Lukian | is there a DK class icon yet? |
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| 08:26.52 | Fisker | yes |
| 08:27.01 | Fisker | but not officially available |
| 08:31.59 | Lukian | unofficially then, may I have a link? :D |
| 08:36.12 | Fisker | just search for some of the trillion "alpha" shots? :P |
| 08:36.33 | Lukian | effort |
| 08:36.48 | Fisker | your mother |
| 08:38.44 | Fisker | http://i31.tinypic.com/mact3s.png |
| 08:42.37 | Fisker | NOT EVEN A MARSHMELLOW? |
| 08:43.02 | Fisker | i'll remember that evil Lukian :( |
| 08:44.46 | Lukian | was pooping |
| 08:44.49 | Lukian | would you like some? |
| 08:44.59 | Fisker | yes |
| 08:45.48 | Lukian | a double edged axe? sad |
| 08:48.28 | Fisker | yo momma |
| 08:48.28 | Fisker | :O |
| 08:49.07 | Fisker | though a rune inscribed sword would've been better |
| 08:50.05 | Fisker | btw in b4 wow-europe have to disable their digital upgrade again :D |
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| 08:55.53 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#.22Wikia.27s_New_Style.22... major fail |
| 09:03.05 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LtYk7wsFnk&feature=related Lukian :IO |
| 09:03.06 | Fisker | :O |
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| 09:04.34 | Sky2042 | g0urra: http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Wikia%27s_New_Style&diff=next&oldid=152612 4.1k on it. |
| 09:04.40 | Sky2042 | idiots. |
| 09:09.56 | Sky2042 | i begin to wonder if sancus would take us back after this... |
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| 09:16.29 | Fisker | lol Sky2042 |
| 09:16.43 | Sky2042 | Fisker: if it only i were. |
| 09:18.25 | Fisker | was it deleted or something? |
| 09:18.42 | Sky2042 | was what deleted. my text? no. |
| 09:20.04 | Fisker | just took some time to appear here |
| 09:20.19 | Fisker | but yeah removing the ads are immersion breaking |
| 09:20.24 | Fisker | and it won't do much of a difference |
| 09:20.33 | Fisker | besides if they only generate per click they should get a better ad provider |
| 09:20.41 | Fisker | removing = moving |
| 09:21.27 | Sky2042 | i imagine they generate per view also, but either way... an ad right there is going to kill readership |
| 09:21.34 | Sky2042 | slaughter it |
| 09:22.22 | Sky2042 | and they're going to give special circumstances to uncyclopedia, which must parody wikipedia! |
| 09:22.40 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 09:24.26 | Fisker | uncyclopedia sucks |
| 09:24.44 | Sky2042 | indeed. |
| 09:25.34 | Fisker | wut |
| 09:26.07 | Fisker | is the layout wowwiki for you as well? :o |
| 09:26.37 | Sky2042 | no, i use monaco, though i think i could live with wowwiki if i needed to. |
| 09:26.47 | Fisker | http://i25.tinypic.com/o8dhn4.jpg |
| 09:26.48 | Fisker | :o |
| 09:27.04 | Fisker | now it's back to normal again |
| 09:27.04 | Fisker | :o |
| 09:27.07 | Sky2042 | lol... |
| 09:27.22 | Arrowmaster | did that for me too |
| 09:27.41 | Sky2042 | having technical issues, apparently. |
| 09:28.04 | g0urra | Sky2042: 4.1k what? |
| 09:28.07 | Sky2042 | btw Arrowmaster, Fisker, go leave your thoughts. as (un)structured as you need |
| 09:28.22 | Sky2042 | g0urra: in reply to that forum thread on central about the "new style" |
| 09:28.34 | g0urra | ah |
| 09:29.00 | Sky2042 | begins organizing grassroots campaign. |
| 09:29.09 | Sky2042 | cackles in madness. |
| 09:33.06 | Sky2042 | that is one nice piece of prose, if i do say so myself. |
| 09:33.14 | Sky2042 | Or your editors will abandon you, your viewership will leave, your wikis will be the ghost towns of the Internet. |
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| 09:36.56 | Ose | sup? |
| 09:37.14 | Sky2042 | Ose: see last edit or two to VP. |
| 09:37.23 | Sky2042 | go leave a note on the forum thread linked. |
| 09:39.49 | g0urra | "Wikia has 11 developers in its Poland development team - you could assign one of them to this rather than making ever-more widgets. " |
| 09:41.08 | Ose | that doesn't look very good... |
| 09:41.10 | Sky2042 | g0urra: haha. |
| 09:41.14 | Sky2042 | Ose: we know. |
| 09:41.23 | Ose | which forum thread btw? |
| 09:41.59 | Sky2042 | the one at central |
| 09:42.08 | g0urra | Okay, nice, I got that wowwiki skin bug now too |
| 09:42.11 | Ose | the discussion page? |
| 09:42.37 | Sky2042 | the [[Forum:X]] |
| 09:43.03 | g0urra | Ose: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Wikia%27s_New_Style |
| 09:43.34 | g0urra | "(at WikiFur, we have a clear page about this)" |
| 09:43.35 | g0urra | YIFF |
| 09:43.38 | Ose | yeah, the discussion page :P |
| 09:44.47 | g0urra | haha that GreenReaper is one humorous fellow |
| 09:44.53 | g0urra | Just look at the last part |
| 09:45.09 | g0urra | "Wikia staff shouldn't care about this, the users should suck up and pay!" |
| 09:45.10 | Sky2042 | oh, i love greenreaper =) |
| 09:46.44 | Sky2042 | anyway, off to bed |
| 09:46.49 | Sky2042 | feel free to keep sending people there. |
| 09:46.52 | Sky2042 | :] |
| 09:47.04 | Sky2042 | leaves it in hands of fellow WoWWikians. |
| 10:36.41 | g0urra | pong Kirkburn|afk |
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| 11:16.23 | g0urra | hi DuTempete |
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| 11:52.20 | Ose | DuTempete: when is Kirkburn|afk going to wake up? |
| 11:58.29 | Ose | http://requests.wikia.com/wiki/Lulzwiki lulz? |
| 12:04.16 | g0urra | Wiki description: All the funny things of the internet |
| 12:04.17 | g0urra | uh |
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| 12:25.34 | Ose | ping Kirkburn|afk once again |
| 12:37.04 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Loot#Removed_ifexist |
| 12:53.27 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Gourra/Sandbox/2 |
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| 13:22.59 | foxlit | http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=34872 |
| 13:23.56 | foxlit | Damn you, 2.4 teaching spell changes |
| 13:25.10 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Helm_of_the_Executioner&oldid=1397127 ugh... |
| 13:26.11 | foxlit | !reload WikiItemGenerator |
| 13:28.33 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Molten_Core&oldid=1397129 eww... |
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| 13:31.18 | Ose | hai hob |
| 13:31.25 | Hobinheim | hi? |
| 13:31.52 | Ose | do you know how to make Kirk wake up? |
| 13:32.35 | g0urra | Ose: But I like ads that invades on the wiki space =( |
| 13:32.58 | foxlit | We have ads?! |
| 13:33.06 | foxlit | cheers at his /etc/hosts |
| 13:33.21 | foxlit | Although Curse seem to have found someone new |
| 13:34.06 | foxlit | http://rubiconproject.com/ |
| 13:34.14 | foxlit | "Make Mad Cash from Ads on Your Website!" |
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| 13:35.37 | foxlit | so long, mad cash :( |
| 13:42.52 | g0urra | http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5135/warglaivesod3.jpg lol |
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| 13:45.07 | sacarasc | hah, awesome |
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| 13:57.42 | Hobinheim | just try saying his name |
| 13:57.46 | Hobinheim | invoke him like a summon |
| 13:58.24 | g0urra | ~cast Summon Kirkburn |
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| 14:19.46 | Kirkburn|afk | What's up? |
| 14:23.50 | Ose | please make http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Deathcharger%27s_Reins&oldid=1397151 not happen Kirkburn... please... |
| 14:24.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, the ads |
| 14:25.39 | Ose | yes, the ads... |
| 14:25.46 | Fisker- | the horror |
| 14:25.55 | Kirkburn|afk | unfortunately, WoWWiki costs a lot of money, and the banner ads don't cover it |
| 14:25.55 | Fisker- | i thought it wasn't until 10th june |
| 14:26.11 | Ose | it is, the link was just a test by me |
| 14:26.52 | Kirkburn|afk | The bandwidth we use is just huge |
| 14:27.09 | Ose | I still don't understand whats so wrong with a banner ad instead? |
| 14:27.10 | foxlit | number, please! |
| 14:27.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Since the days of sancus' dedicated server we have many many times the visitors |
| 14:27.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Ose, banner ads don't make enough money to cover the running costs :( |
| 14:28.06 | Ose | why? |
| 14:28.16 | Kirkburn|afk | That's the ad market |
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| 14:28.43 | Ose | just out of curiosity, why does the ad market hate banner ads so? |
| 14:28.46 | Fisker- | why does moving them solve the problem? |
| 14:28.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Not interesting enough |
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| 14:29.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Btw, note that the number of ads for logged in users is the same - the banner ad will be replaced with the box ad, it's not in addition to it |
| 14:29.05 | Fisker- | there's more ads in the banner even |
| 14:29.31 | Kirkburn|afk | For tooltips, we could move them to the left side of the screen if it's a big problem |
| 14:29.44 | foxlit | Ose: out of interest, what in particular in that link that's worth being pointed out? :) |
| 14:29.56 | Fisker- | the ad |
| 14:30.01 | Ose | duh |
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| 14:30.09 | Ose | you have adblock? |
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| 14:30.17 | foxlit | No, but I don't see any ads regardless |
| 14:30.23 | foxlit | But that's beyond the matter, which ad? |
| 14:30.27 | foxlit | http://browsershots.org/screenshots/0f3ee9a0ded43a801bda9e9468c94530/ |
| 14:30.45 | Ose | http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia%27s_New_Style |
| 14:30.46 | Fisker- | wikia is removing the ad banner and replacing it in the right |
| 14:30.51 | Fisker- | where content boxes usually are |
| 14:31.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Fisker-, that is correct |
| 14:31.27 | Kirkburn|afk | That is because those boxes can actually cover the running costs |
| 14:31.37 | g0urra | Why? |
| 14:31.51 | Ose | I would rather have them expanding the sidebar and put it there... than this... |
| 14:31.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Advertisers pay more for them |
| 14:31.57 | foxlit | oh how, intrusive |
| 14:32.11 | foxlit | s/h/w/ |
| 14:32.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Unfortunately that is the only location for a 300x250 ad that's really possible for this skin |
| 14:32.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Quartz tried to fit it into the sidebar |
| 14:32.44 | Kirkburn|afk | However, that creates a /massive/ sidebar :/ |
| 14:33.03 | g0urra | Yeah good luck with driving off the casual browser from WoWWiki |
| 14:33.38 | Kirkburn|afk | The thing is, other websites also have these types of ads, but they have skins/layouts that work better with them |
| 14:33.43 | g0urra | "Hey you know this WoWWiki? Yeah they suddenly put these huge ads at the top of the pages! I hate it!" |
| 14:34.23 | Kirkburn|afk | I hear you |
| 14:34.47 | Kirkburn|afk | However, we are a top 700 website, which is trying to survive off banner ads |
| 14:34.52 | foxlit | "but/however" |
| 14:34.59 | foxlit | Hah, Kirk types faster, it seems. |
| 14:35.00 | Kirkburn|afk | That's just not maintainable |
| 14:35.12 | Ose | is this what you have been <quote>busy busy busy</quote> with lately Kirk? |
| 14:35.27 | g0urra | Kirkburn|afk: why does Wikia fail so much that they appearantly has this in development for months, but don't say anything about this until 4 days before the change? |
| 14:35.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Partly, but I have many other projects |
| 14:35.55 | g0urra | Heck, we don't even get a global wikia announcement |
| 14:36.03 | Kirkburn|afk | That's planned for tomorrow |
| 14:36.19 | foxlit | Eventually, that'll just lead to scatter, as things replace one "top 700" website with several "top 70000" ones |
| 14:36.28 | Kirkburn|afk | The thing is, while we are open to feedback, this is a change that needs to happen |
| 14:36.38 | g0urra | Tomorrow?! The day before you implement it?! |
| 14:36.41 | g0urra | You must be crazy. |
| 14:37.46 | Kirkburn|afk | What would an extra week achieve? We have to try this, see how it plays out, and work from that |
| 14:38.08 | Fisker- | According to adsense the location of the ad is irrelevant |
| 14:38.10 | Kirkburn|afk | An extra week would only really give rise to more theorycrafting |
| 14:38.23 | Fisker- | as such you are not really earning anything by placing it anywhere else |
| 14:38.48 | Kirkburn|afk | They guys recommending the changes know what they are doing |
| 14:38.53 | g0urra | Kirkburn|afk: at least tell people in advance |
| 14:39.02 | Kirkburn|afk | These ads are paid by impressions - i.e. views |
| 14:39.09 | Fisker- | yes |
| 14:39.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Ad buyers need to know that the ads will be seen, and look good |
| 14:39.26 | Fisker- | that's irrelevant |
| 14:39.34 | Fisker- | If the ad is loaded, the ad is "seen" |
| 14:39.44 | Fisker- | whether or not it has done anything is irrelevant for payment |
| 14:39.45 | Kirkburn|afk | g0urra, we are doing that - these announcements were intended to go out earlier, but we had a few delays |
| 14:39.53 | g0urra | hah |
| 14:39.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Fisker-, ads buyers do look at what they're buying though |
| 14:40.13 | Kirkburn|afk | If it's below the fold, they won't buy |
| 14:40.40 | Kirkburn|afk | "the fold" being the bottom of the browser when you load a site |
| 14:41.02 | Kirkburn|afk | The old location of the WoWWiki ad was a bit a sticking point, when the featured article was above it |
| 14:41.06 | Fisker- | The ad was in the banner, not the footer |
| 14:41.11 | Fisker- | oh |
| 14:41.14 | Fisker- | well for wowwiki perhaps |
| 14:41.18 | Fisker- | but for wikia in general it was a banner |
| 14:41.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Even such a small difference changes a lot with ad buyer - a fickle bunch, they are |
| 14:41.47 | Fisker- | Changing a ad from not being seen to being seen is a big change |
| 14:41.57 | Kirkburn|afk | True, and it still will be a banner if it clashes with content |
| 14:42.16 | Fisker- | However moving an ad from a place where it is already seen to a place where it obnoxiously hard to avoid only makes users block them completely |
| 14:42.49 | foxlit | Fisker-, we're counting on our intended audience being technically illeterate |
| 14:42.52 | foxlit | Clealry. |
| 14:42.56 | Ose | that would mean that most of wowwikis pages will have banner ads tho, since we are heavily into userboxes and stuff |
| 14:42.59 | foxlit | s/lr/rl/ |
| 14:43.00 | Fisker- | of course foxlit |
| 14:43.07 | Ose | not userboxes... |
| 14:43.12 | Ose | infoboxes -.- |
| 14:43.12 | Kirkburn|afk | This is a Wikia-wide change, so it is difficult to claim exceptions |
| 14:43.13 | Fisker- | That really shows how "smart" those people are |
| 14:43.16 | Fisker- | as Kirkburn|afk put it |
| 14:43.17 | Fisker- | :o |
| 14:43.38 | Fisker- | "Our users are too stupid to bother" |
| 14:43.42 | Fisker- | "Oh wait, no they're not" |
| 14:43.56 | foxlit | That culminates with click-throughs |
| 14:44.02 | foxlit | Speaking of which, I need to figure out what to do with them |
| 14:45.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Aye, it will push down infoboxes |
| 14:45.20 | Kirkburn|afk | However, there is a a note to make here |
| 14:45.29 | g0urra | Kirkburn|afk: go go adblockers |
| 14:45.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Though they get pushed down, the content moves up |
| 14:45.35 | g0urra | = 0 money |
| 14:45.51 | DuTempete | I sincerely doubt we're going to lose either readership or editing on WoWWiki, unless one of you folks gets too stubborn. |
| 14:46.06 | Ose | anyway I get to know what subject my oral exam will be about tomorrow or tuesday, then i'll have 48 hours before the exam itself to prepare, so I won't be around at the change :P |
| 14:46.12 | Kirkburn|afk | As there is no longer a massive banner areas, the content (on the left) will move up /a lot/ |
| 14:46.20 | Fisker- | meh |
| 14:46.25 | g0urra | looks for the "renew account" button on WoW |
| 14:46.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Ose, good luck btw |
| 14:46.30 | Fisker- | i just removed wowwiki from the adblocker whitelist |
| 14:46.41 | Fisker- | though it'll probably still give you impressions |
| 14:46.43 | Fisker- | which is a shame |
| 14:46.47 | Ose | thanks |
| 14:46.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Fisker-, please lets not be hasty |
| 14:47.12 | Kirkburn|afk | The change isn't active yet, and we've yet to see it in action |
| 14:47.23 | Fisker- | That may be |
| 14:47.33 | DuTempete | It's not going to be easy to adjust to, I agree, but unless anyone has any good ideas that Wikia will take into consideration (which they've probably already considered, so good luck), the only other option is to take our wiki elsewhere... and which of you is going to volunteer for that? |
| 14:47.34 | Fisker- | But that itself just proved how little they thought it through |
| 14:47.41 | Fisker- | It takes a user 5 seconds to block the ads |
| 14:48.05 | Kirkburn|afk | A lot of the ads are aimed at the general readership |
| 14:48.11 | Fisker- | DuTempete the position of the ad is not going to give them more money |
| 14:48.30 | DuTempete | Fisker-: they already tried putting it somewhere else and we told them no. |
| 14:48.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Depending on how this goes, it may mean ads can be removed entirely for those who log in |
| 14:48.56 | DuTempete | Quartz resulted in a waste of space |
| 14:49.02 | Fisker- | i don't mind the ads as they are now in a banner |
| 14:49.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Understandable, but again banners can't support a top 700 website |
| 14:49.40 | DuTempete | Frankly, it's _because of us_ because of what we've already said to them that they're putting it there. |
| 14:50.01 | foxlit | (699?) |
| 14:50.15 | Kirkburn|afk | foxlit, :O |
| 14:50.25 | DuTempete | I want spot 666... |
| 14:50.36 | DuTempete | That'll give Jack Thompson something to chew on. |
| 14:50.39 | Kirkburn|afk | We had spot 666 :P |
| 14:50.54 | DuTempete | Bastard. You didn't tell me. |
| 14:51.13 | Kirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 14:51.52 | Ose | I have a screenie |
| 14:52.02 | Kirkburn|afk | On the feedback thread, by all means suggest ideas - however, don't suggest things like "no ads" or "donations instead" as those are just not viable options |
| 14:52.05 | Ose | on another comp tho |
| 14:53.16 | DuTempete | Also, as someone who reads these threads... keep in mind what I said above, and don't think you're any smarter than the people at Wikia who have been hashing this over for months. |
| 14:54.06 | foxlit | I appreciate your patronizing tone, DuTempete. |
| 14:54.11 | DuTempete | <3 |
| 14:54.24 | DuTempete | And um, I'm not patronising. |
| 14:54.53 | DuTempete | Patronising would be if I had said how "valuable" anything you had to say would be. |
| 14:55.15 | foxlit | What would you call consistently stating the obvious as if it wasn't obvious? |
| 14:55.31 | DuTempete | And I'll be the first to say that most of what I've read in that thread is anything but valuable. |
| 14:55.48 | DuTempete | Well it surely hasn't been obvious to anyone who's replied thus far. |
| 14:57.22 | DuTempete | you're welcome to call me "Captain Obvious" if you like, foxlit ;) |
| 14:58.54 | kd3 | hm |
| 14:58.55 | DuTempete | G0urra, thanks for the hello earlier. Either my laptop or my connection restarted whilst I was still in bed. :) |
| 14:59.59 | Fisker- | DuTempete ok, that's cool and all |
| 15:00.20 | Fisker- | But since Google pay you at the amount of impressions and clicks (and subsequent purchases) |
| 15:00.41 | Fisker- | How do you consider removing 1 impression per page-load, and forcing a lot of users to be annoyed will solve it? |
| 15:00.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Again, the ads were going for are only per-impression |
| 15:00.49 | Fisker- | ah ok |
| 15:00.53 | Fisker- | then it only makes less sense |
| 15:01.10 | Kirkburn|afk | And again, because ad buyers buy sizes and locations |
| 15:01.27 | g0urra | hopes his ABP will all solve this |
| 15:01.37 | Fisker- | Google adsense buy neither |
| 15:02.03 | Kirkburn|afk | A 300x250 at the bottom of a page won't sell, and the banner ads at the top alone don't make enough |
| 15:02.03 | Fisker- | And there are 4 ads in the banner, 3 in the box |
| 15:02.03 | Fisker- | so you're removing 1 ad |
| 15:02.03 | DuTempete | Google doesn't cover costs or we wouldn't be having this discussion, Fisker. |
| 15:02.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Banner /or/ box, not both |
| 15:02.38 | DuTempete | And if you're suggesting just adding in another ad that covers the gap between Google and costs, then you're talking about there being MORE ads on the same front page. |
| 15:02.43 | Kirkburn|afk | The only place both appear is on the main page |
| 15:03.13 | Fisker- | Let me just walk you through this once more |
| 15:03.39 | Fisker- | At the moment there are 4 google ads in a banner in the top (Google only pays per impression, location, size, etc. is irrelevant, the number of ads and page loads are not) |
| 15:03.54 | Fisker- | The solution to the missing money is a google ad box with only 3 google ads |
| 15:04.00 | Fisker- | That's less impressions per page load |
| 15:04.04 | Fisker- | Thus, less money |
| 15:04.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Ads are not all created equal - Google ads especially |
| 15:04.18 | Fisker- | 3 * x = 3x and 4 * x = 4x |
| 15:04.29 | Fisker- | 4x > 3x etc. |
| 15:04.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Google is basically the lowest paying ads in existence |
| 15:05.34 | DuTempete | I think the idea is to replace Google with more lucrative ads. So, consider an ad for Alienware that would pay more than 3 Google ads. |
| 15:05.44 | DuTempete | or even 4 Google ads |
| 15:05.52 | Kirkburn|afk | A single impression from a proper ad buy would be equal to many many Google ads |
| 15:06.14 | Kirkburn|afk | And, of course, the ads would be much better |
| 15:06.46 | DuTempete | Yup, no need to maintain a white- or blacklist, once Google is out |
| 15:07.21 | Fisker- | Why would that be out? |
| 15:07.29 | DuTempete | I'm sure Wikia would choose partners that would agree with Blizzards licenses |
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| 15:07.33 | Fisker- | There's still annoying ads, as well as exploitive ads |
| 15:07.37 | DuTempete | Because Google ads suck, and don't pay |
| 15:07.55 | DuTempete | *pay as well |
| 15:08.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Fisker-, true, but we will keep the annoying ones to a minimum |
| 15:08.10 | Fisker- | Of course |
| 15:08.20 | Fisker- | but that doesn't eliminate the need for a blacklist |
| 15:08.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Seriously, no smiley ads. We hate them. |
| 15:08.27 | Kirkburn|afk | Mostly it does |
| 15:08.36 | foxlit | see: wowhead's ad adventures |
| 15:08.43 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 15:09.30 | g0urra | wowhead ads is why I discovered ABP. |
| 15:09.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Gold sellers generally don't buy nice ads |
| 15:09.38 | Fisker- | I can see that an ad with a placement like that would be more lucrative than a banner ad |
| 15:09.48 | Fisker- | but would the banner ad not still be more lucrative than a google ad? |
| 15:09.59 | Fisker- | They do buy ads for exploits though :P |
| 15:10.08 | Fisker- | so they can hack a couple of thousand machines and get their accounts :P |
| 15:10.13 | Kirkburn|afk | We'll still remove 'em :) |
| 15:10.31 | DuTempete | I would think that Wikia would explore specific ads just for the gaming community... maybe even more specifically for MMOs and WoWWiki |
| 15:10.43 | Kirkburn|afk | ^ we do :) |
| 15:11.26 | DuTempete | And they are already aware of licensing issues associated therein. |
| 15:11.59 | g0urra | "Stay home and earn money!" |
| 15:12.06 | DuTempete | lol |
| 15:12.22 | Kirkburn|afk | It's not as if I /want/ these ads, but they are a neccessity in some form |
| 15:12.26 | g0urra | "Sweet, I can get my subscription paid!" |
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| 15:23.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Thing that people often miss - only ads on content pages, no extra ads for logged in users, the stamp logo will return |
| 15:25.46 | Kirkburn|afk | (Adys'll be pleased) |
| 15:26.08 | foxlit | The stamp logo never left <3 |
| 15:26.14 | Adys_ | thank you. |
| 15:26.27 | Adys_ | even more so for the logo than the ads |
| 15:26.42 | Ose | what namespaces are we going to treat as content? main only? |
| 15:26.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Main, Server, Guild |
| 15:27.05 | Ose | ok |
| 15:27.09 | Kirkburn|afk | I think that's all of them |
| 15:27.20 | Kirkburn|afk | No ads whatsoever on talk pages, project pages, user pages |
| 15:27.26 | Kirkburn|afk | That's /less/ than before |
| 15:27.34 | Ose | those guildcafé people will be happy, ggetting to advertise on server and guild :P |
| 15:27.54 | Kirkburn|afk | That's actually a very interesting idea |
| 15:28.17 | Kirkburn|afk | I will mention the idea of namespace targeting ads |
| 15:28.39 | g0urra | "...ads won't be on any talk pages, user pages, project pages, MediaWiki pages, template pages, and help pages" |
| 15:28.43 | foxlit | "Nihilum are a bunch of suckers, find your new guild at @ moo.com" |
| 15:28.52 | DuTempete | lol |
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| 15:45.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, good comparison - http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Old_Monaco.jpg http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Image:New_Monaco_A.jpg |
| 15:46.31 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Nordrassil_Regalia |
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| 15:46.41 | foxlit | growls at command-w |
| 15:46.48 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Highlord_Kruul |
| 15:47.57 | foxlit | Would be far more interesting to see effects on those pages |
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| 15:49.33 | g0urra | yay for killing ambox |
| 15:50.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Killing ambox? |
| 15:50.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh, thsat should cause a banner ad instead |
| 15:50.20 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Highlord_Kruul&oldid=1397183 |
| 15:50.30 | g0urra | gg |
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| 15:51.18 | foxlit | gourra: unless that's the same code as will actually be used to insert the ads, it's not that interesting |
| 15:51.30 | Kirkburn|afk | If it'll collide with tables, it should create a banner ad instead |
| 15:51.45 | foxlit | How does it detect whether it collides with tables? |
| 15:56.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Fancy code |
| 15:56.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Beyond me |
| 16:06.01 | foxlit | What defines a collision? |
| 16:06.23 | foxlit | [problem is, if you don't know _how_ it's done, you really don't know _whether_ it'll be done in any specific case] |
| 16:06.36 | foxlit | I mean, most of our infoboxes are probably tables |
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| 16:51.41 | Kirkburn|afk | foxlit, if it's floated right, it should just push it down |
| 16:52.06 | g0urra | but we're still going to have amboxes pushing content down |
| 16:52.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Amboxes should cause a banner ad |
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| 16:53.09 | Fisker- | btw |Pixel| |
| 16:53.19 | Fisker- | your new digital upgrade might need another pulldown :P |
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| 17:06.07 | Fisker- | http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/06/nyregion/06rape.html?em&ex=1212984000&en=9497caf28b21f412&ei=5087%0A >:O |
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| 17:12.00 | g0urra | "...sealed her mouth with glue..." |
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| 17:32.45 | Kirkburn | I point you all towards - http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia_Gaming:Puzzle_Challenge |
| 17:34.28 | Kirkburn | US resident, 18+ though (sorry) |
| 17:35.34 | Dotted | massive wikia failure yet again |
| 17:35.54 | g0urra | ^ |
| 17:37.00 | Dotted | atleast you didnt have to spam my talkpage tbh |
| 17:45.41 | Kirkburn | Blame the legal system |
| 17:45.55 | Kirkburn | Anyway, I wouldn't have been able to enter either :( |
| 17:46.06 | foxlit | DAMN YOU, LEGAL SYSTEM |
| 17:46.12 | Kirkburn | ^ :) |
| 17:46.41 | Fisker- | what legal system doesn't know, legal system doesn't get hurt by |
| 17:46.41 | Fisker- | :D |
| 17:46.55 | foxlit | Though, tbh, it's probably that combined with the general expenses of trying to open that up to anyone not in the states |
| 17:47.04 | Kirkburn | You mean, "what legal system doesn't know, Wikia doesn't get hurt by" |
| 17:47.37 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 17:47.45 | Fisker- | can't remember how it is with that expression |
| 17:48.18 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I was just making it accurate :P |
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| 18:30.13 | pcj | how can wikia afford to send people off to that and be complaining about not affording servers |
| 18:31.14 | g0urra | oh the irony. |
| 18:34.22 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Loot#Removed_ifexist |
| 18:35.43 | Fisker- | just kill me now Dotted |
| 18:36.22 | Dotted | kills Fisker- |
| 18:36.37 | Fisker- | reported to the police |
| 18:42.11 | Fisker- | så sover jeg da bare |
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| 18:46.54 | Sky2042 | pcj: nice ifexist functionality with javascript |
| 18:52.12 | Sky2042 | pcj: would you mind leaving your comments at the talk page of the thread linked?... |
| 18:52.28 | pcj | hmm? |
| 18:53.11 | Sky2042 | for the new style |
| 18:53.18 | pcj | what thread |
| 18:53.59 | Sky2042 | http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia%27s_New_Style |
| 18:54.28 | pcj | that's not a thread |
| 18:54.40 | Sky2042 | the talk page is. |
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| 18:55.06 | Sky2042 | welcomes DuTempete back. |
| 18:55.49 | DuTempete | thanks, Sky2042... Kirkburn's wifi is flaky :( |
| 18:55.56 | Sky2042 | heh. |
| 18:56.09 | Sky2042 | did /he/ know about the style change? |
| 18:56.13 | Sky2042 | is wondering... |
| 18:56.14 | pcj | oh, can't find the talk page on monaco |
| 18:56.25 | Sky2042 | LOL |
| 18:56.28 | DuTempete | don't think it's my place to discuss what he has to do with any of it |
| 18:56.37 | Sky2042 | bah. |
| 18:57.54 | DuTempete | pcj: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Wikia%27s_New_Style |
| 18:58.16 | pcj | that's not a forum, that's chaos |
| 18:59.20 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 18:59.25 | DuTempete | can't argue with you there |
| 18:59.41 | pcj | not your place to discuss that either huh |
| 18:59.45 | DuTempete | anyway, I'm going to play Bioshock and make gooie eyes at Kirkburn |
| 18:59.55 | pcj | mmm gooey eyes |
| 19:07.29 | Sky2042 | btw, that comparison of size of article content is poorly made. |
| 19:07.40 | Sky2042 | you have to cut out the upper right hand corner -_- |
| 19:07.43 | Sky2042 | for "New" |
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| 19:10.06 | pcj | that was one of my points, yeah |
| 19:13.25 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Hellfire_Peninsula_NPCs#Horde wiee |
| 19:13.27 | g0urra | scroll down |
| 19:14.42 | pcj | yeah ifexist still needs to be removed from quest and questlong |
| 19:14.46 | g0urra | "Warning: This page contains too many #ifexist calls. It should have less than 100, there are now 162." |
| 19:14.47 | g0urra | :> |
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| 19:15.03 | g0urra | -> |
| 19:18.32 | Fisker- | i hate all this javascript |
| 19:18.35 | Fisker- | it makes IE cry |
| 19:18.53 | Fisker- | IE Renderer: "Please, think of the children" |
| 19:19.11 | Arcanedeath | who uses IE? |
| 19:19.45 | Arcanedeath | get a real browser please. If they wont let you install it at work put it on a usb drive or something |
| 19:20.25 | Arcanedeath | Not to be rude, read that in a friendly tone please. |
| 19:20.36 | foxlit | IE is a real browser. |
| 19:20.44 | foxlit | :) |
| 19:21.04 | Arcanedeath | Are you talking about internet explorer or can IE mean something else? |
| 19:21.24 | foxlit | both |
| 19:21.35 | pcj | so what don't you like about IE... |
| 19:23.55 | pcj | foxlit/sky, remove ifexist part from questlong plz |
| 19:26.03 | Fisker- | yeah i prefer IE over opera :o |
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| 19:35.09 | Adys_ | IE sucks |
| 19:35.17 | Adys_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.58 | Arcanedeath2 | /lol |
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| 19:38.02 | Adys_ | http://pastebin.com/d77891729 |
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| 19:42.27 | kd3 | whee for hardlocking the kernel trying to start wow |
| 19:54.39 | pcj | http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/truk01.shtml |
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| 20:23.02 | foxlit | http://ragnarok2.wikia.com/wiki/WG |
| 20:23.10 | foxlit | It's them up/down/left pointy thingies of doom |
| 20:23.12 | foxlit | run! |
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| 21:15.38 | Ose | uhm, anyone know why the <onlyinclude> tags doesn't work on {{tab}}? |
| 21:15.47 | Ose | the whole page is transcluded... |
| 21:16.30 | Ose | template loop detected? |
| 21:17.37 | pcj | {{tab}} |
| 21:17.38 | Dotted | pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:tab |
| 21:18.22 | Ose | hmm... it works on [[User:Ose/wrap]] |
| 21:18.32 | Ose | [[User:Ose/wrap]] |
| 21:18.33 | Dotted | Ose meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/wrap |
| 21:19.32 | g0urra | {{spc}} |
| 21:19.33 | Dotted | g0urra meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:spc |
| 21:19.39 | Ose | pcj, you know what a template loop is? |
| 21:19.41 | Ose | anyone? |
| 21:20.24 | Ose | well, I have to go... need to sleep before tomorrow |
| 21:20.26 | Ose | bai |
| 21:21.37 | pcj | hmm that was almost worth looking into until he left |
| 21:24.17 | foxlit | it's rather obvious from the error message |
| 21:34.38 | g0urra | http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.massively.com/media/2008/03/dsc_1963.jpg oh |
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| 21:40.35 | Sky2042 | wonders about g0urra... |
| 21:40.42 | g0urra | ? |
| 21:40.49 | Sky2042 | I'm thinking about something. |
| 21:41.01 | g0urra | Spit it out |
| 21:41.25 | Sky2042 | no. not yet. |
| 21:42.27 | g0urra | Okay... |
| 21:53.05 | g0urra | Sky2042? |
| 21:53.16 | Sky2042 | mmm? |
| 21:53.21 | g0urra | What was it? |
| 21:53.33 | Sky2042 | Nada. |
| 21:53.42 | g0urra | ... |
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| 22:07.24 | pcj | http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/0806_exclusive_pregnant_man.shtml |
| 22:07.37 | Fisker- | old |
| 22:07.41 | Fisker- | btw |
| 22:07.45 | Fisker- | the ship can't sink |
| 22:08.43 | pcj | http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/threat-of-world-aids-pandemic-among-heterosexuals-is-over-report-admits-842478.html |
| 22:08.45 | pcj | "Kevin de Cock, the head of the WHO's department of HIV/Aids said there will be no generalised epidemic of Aids in the heterosexual population outside Africa." |
| 22:08.48 | pcj | is that a joke name |
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| 22:33.48 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Muninn_Magellas :p |
| 22:39.11 | g0urra | Bagginsww: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Slaughterhouse&curid=174123&diff=1397602&oldid=1397597 where did you get this info? |
| 22:39.22 | g0urra | It's not in the original manual. |
| 22:39.25 | Bagginsww | manual :p |
| 22:39.28 | Bagginsww | pdf |
| 22:39.36 | Bagginsww | from collector's edition |
| 22:39.37 | Bagginsww | color |
| 22:39.42 | Bagginsww | my copy of the game |
| 22:39.47 | Bagginsww | it is original manula;) |
| 22:40.03 | g0urra | I have the original manual here, and it doesn't say that. |
| 22:40.29 | Bagginsww | so collector's edition has a more detailed manual? |
| 22:40.30 | g0urra | Make something like W3ManPDF .. |
| 22:40.41 | Bagginsww | it is the same as my collector's manual :p |
| 22:40.52 | g0urra | W3ManCE |
| 22:46.18 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Muninn_Magellas |
| 22:47.51 | Bagginsww | yo uhave a boring manual |
| 22:48.07 | g0urra | make that "you have the original manual" |
| 22:48.08 | Bagginsww | you sure yo have the first edition of the manual? |
| 22:48.16 | Bagginsww | I owned both versions :p |
| 22:48.31 | Bagginsww | and other than the cover being different hte manuals were the same |
| 22:48.35 | g0urra | From 2002 |
| 22:48.44 | Bagginsww | well I should say my sis has the 2002 original edition |
| 22:48.47 | Bagginsww | and I had collector |
| 22:49.00 | Bagginsww | sand we both had the same manual other than mine had signatures on the back |
| 22:49.18 | Bagginsww | but content inside was exactly the same |
| 22:49.33 | g0urra | I have the original edition from 2002, and it doesn't say anything about how abominations are stitched up in the Slaughterhouse description |
| 22:49.43 | Bagginsww | so there must be two versions fo the original manual |
| 22:49.54 | Bagginsww | your version lacks all the lore |
| 22:50.02 | Bagginsww | it seems for everything |
| 22:50.10 | Bagginsww | you just put up shaman lodges |
| 22:50.14 | Bagginsww | and left out alot of stuff |
| 22:52.04 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Muninn_Magellas&curid=69176&diff=1397625&oldid=1397556 |
| 22:54.48 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:City:Ironforge oops seems like the bot missed a spot |
| 22:55.12 | Bagginsww | hmm |
| 22:55.20 | g0urra | heh, there's several spots http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Cities |
| 23:00.32 | Bagginsww | I've modified the lore policy page to mirror Kirkburn's about page |
| 23:00.41 | Bagginsww | to hopefuly avoid future confusion :p |
| 23:05.03 | Bagginsww | so gourra back to the manuals? Do you have american edition of the game? |
| 23:05.17 | g0urra | European/UK |
| 23:05.27 | Bagginsww | hmm that might make a difference? |
| 23:05.43 | g0urra | probably |
| 23:05.45 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Warcraft_II_manual =) |
| 23:05.58 | Bagginsww | the versions I have access are American editions |
| 23:06.53 | Bagginsww | I think the warcraft II manual is exactly the same. Just looking at it briefly |
| 23:07.53 | Bagginsww | I'd say it should add a section for us edition :) |
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| 23:08.03 | Bagginsww | but poiunt out the rest is exactly the same :p |
| 23:08.12 | Bagginsww | at least from what I can tell :p |
| 23:10.38 | Gourra | hm what's the command to kill a clone? |
| 23:10.44 | Gourra | waves at g0urra |
| 23:13.38 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 23:13.46 | Bagginsww | no idea :p |
| 23:14.25 | foxlit | You're doing it wrong! |
| 23:14.37 | foxlit | clones kill you, not the other way around |
| 23:14.42 | Gourra | shi |
| 23:31.19 | Bagginsww | foxlit maybe in star wars ;) |
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| 23:40.18 | Bagginsww | honestly I just don't understand how someone can't tell the difference between a page that is clearly labeled from the RPG, and one that is clearly labeled as being in the MMO :P |
| 23:40.40 | Bagginsww | and then takes offense, Lawl, when I mention I don't understand :p |
| 23:41.06 | g0urra | Bagginsww, maybe you could've thought of making a short description of who the different Magellas are? |
| 23:41.16 | g0urra | on the High Explorer Magellas page |
| 23:41.31 | Bagginsww | I've put the inline citation for tomi |
| 23:41.46 | Bagginsww | to be fair I don't know how they are related enough :p |
| 23:41.53 | Bagginsww | there is that speculation section on the bottom |
| 23:42.38 | g0urra | To be fair he has a point - the article is misleading to WoW players as I don't know who the heck any of those Magellas are in the first place |
| 23:43.35 | g0urra | So just because you are an admin of the wiki doesn't mean you can use any attitude against him, saying "lol its RPG and screenshots on the different pages, L2READ NOOB" (not the exact words, but you get the point) |
| 23:43.42 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/High_Explorer_Magellas |
| 23:44.14 | Bagginsww | I was stating that we have those nice big templates |
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| 23:44.54 | Bagginsww | I didn't make the "name" policy |
| 23:45.05 | Bagginsww | lore name policy to be precise |
| 23:45.16 | Bagginsww | I don't know who did |
| 23:46.15 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Muninn_Magellas&curid=69176&diff=1397665&oldid=1397632&rcid=1379662 what. |
| 23:50.16 | Bagginsww | .... |
| 23:50.28 | Bagginsww | that's twice we have had to revert him... |
| 23:57.24 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Wentham |
