| 00:02.11 | Bagginsww | I just love how the book has recycled previous class artwork for some of the new classes :p |
| 00:03.56 | Bagginsww | It uses the Dark apothecary artwork for the Dark inscriber. The Defias renegade gets resued for the Contender |
| 00:04.17 | Sky2042 | saves us from uploading new images, imo |
| 00:04.24 | Bagginsww | true |
| 00:04.37 | Bagginsww | we just have to explain to the newbs that it is used for both |
| 00:05.00 | Bagginsww | someone removed the fel-sworn image, because it is also used for felguards LOL |
| 00:06.27 | Bagginsww | the image for the Aqua druid class variant is a turtle LOL |
| 00:07.00 | Bagginsww | well the scarlet crusade's membership hasn't increased |
| 00:07.15 | Bagginsww | and they are still evil... |
| 00:07.39 | Bagginsww | have to check, they might have gone from strict evil to lawful evil |
| 00:07.51 | Bagginsww | or they might have been lawful evil previously, don't remember |
| 00:10.36 | Bagginsww | sigh they didn't even bother to give the abbendis first names lOL |
| 00:10.59 | Bagginsww | at least they explained it :) |
| 00:11.03 | Sky2042 | oh well. you live |
| 00:13.04 | Sky2042 | g0urra: cloth looks fabulous. can you add that to one of the examples? |
| 00:13.11 | Sky2042 | use that as an example* |
| 00:13.14 | g0urra | okay |
| 00:13.15 | Sky2042 | for the subgroup one. |
| 00:14.28 | g0urra | just replace that one with {{cloth}}? |
| 00:14.58 | Sky2042 | copy paste cltoh, and yes |
| 00:15.01 | g0urra | or subst:cloth |
| 00:15.32 | Sky2042 | yah |
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| 00:19.19 | Bagginsww | Either members are evil and willingly |
| 00:19.19 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.19 | Bagginsww | and now realize the organizationâs fanaticism and depravity. |
| 00:19.20 | Bagginsww | hmm |
| 00:19.32 | Jimdinventor | Is "/focus none" a synonym for "/clearfocus", or does it fail to do anything? |
| 00:19.45 | Sky2042 | Jimdinventor: test? xD |
| 00:19.58 | Sky2042 | actually, sec |
| 00:19.58 | Jimdinventor | Can't. I canceled my account. :-) |
| 00:20.09 | Sky2042 | Jimdinventor: ok. check in #wowuidev then |
| 00:20.13 | Sky2042 | =] |
| 00:20.20 | Jimdinventor | alright! |
| 00:20.47 | Sky2042 | they just moved to that channel name, which is why i didn't just say that xD |
| 00:22.28 | Bagginsww | interesting new stuff about Thorium |
| 00:22.30 | Bagginsww | brotherhood |
| 00:22.44 | Bagginsww | they predate the war of the three hammers |
| 00:22.49 | Bagginsww | and sided with the dark irons |
| 00:23.15 | Bagginsww | Neutral evil group heh |
| 00:24.44 | Sky2042 | g0urra: can you think of a use for the multiple show/hides navbox on wow? |
| 00:24.57 | g0urra | Outland zones |
| 00:25.04 | Sky2042 | oh? |
| 00:25.28 | g0urra | Outland collapsible shows HFP, Terokkar etc subzones |
| 00:26.55 | g0urra | or ugh nevermind, I looked through the code |
| 00:27.00 | Sky2042 | ? |
| 00:27.06 | Sky2042 | which template? |
| 00:27.23 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Outland ? |
| 00:27.33 | g0urra | #Multiple show/hides in a single container |
| 00:28.17 | Sky2042 | no, on which template? that one? |
| 00:29.31 | g0urra | well first you have Outland (main navbox) who has each different zone with its own navbox. then they have their own subzones/territories |
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| 00:29.59 | Sky2042 | that would really supersize that template :/ |
| 00:30.13 | g0urra | exactly. that's why I'm trying to come up with a new one |
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| 00:31.20 | g0urra | Hmm Old Horde maybe..with every sub-navbox being Leaders, Clans and Territories |
| 00:32.33 | Sky2042 | wow.... |
| 00:32.41 | Sky2042 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Rt25XNKXI |
| 00:32.46 | g0urra | just important ones, of course |
| 00:32.53 | Sky2042 | amazing. |
| 00:33.10 | Sky2042 | whoever did the music for brawl really did do a good job |
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| 00:41.37 | Bagginsww | Well zandalar tribe needs to be infoboxed |
| 00:41.43 | Bagginsww | Membership: 27,000. |
| 00:41.53 | Bagginsww | that's a huge tribe :) |
| 00:44.55 | g0urra | Bagginsww: why is it Zandalar and not Zandalar tribe? |
| 00:45.11 | Bagginsww | uh Zandalar is the island |
| 00:45.15 | Bagginsww | and tribe is different |
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| 00:45.23 | g0urra | ah, I see |
| 00:45.46 | g0urra | well let's say Bloodscalp then |
| 00:46.49 | g0urra | heck it even says "Zandalar tribe" on Zandalar troll page |
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| 00:49.54 | g0urra | Bagginsww? |
| 00:50.22 | Bagginsww | hmm? |
| 00:50.36 | Bagginsww | Zandalar tribe and Zandalar troll have seperate pages? |
| 00:50.47 | Bagginsww | That doesnt' make much sense |
| 00:50.53 | Bagginsww | The species and the tribe ar eone and the same |
| 00:51.06 | Bagginsww | The tribe doesn't let membrs of otehr troll races join it |
| 00:51.09 | g0urra | no, I meant that it should be "Zandalar tribe" instead of "Zandalar tribe" |
| 00:51.13 | g0urra | er |
| 00:51.17 | g0urra | instead of Zandalar troll |
| 00:51.36 | Bagginsww | Sure, its similar to the Sandfury tribe |
| 00:51.38 | g0urra | since the image on Zandalar troll, which is from the WoW faction page, says Zandalar tribe |
| 00:51.41 | Bagginsww | which is the only version of its species |
| 00:52.43 | g0urra | So shouldn't all of the troll tribes be moved to "<troll> tribe"? |
| 00:55.03 | Bagginsww | ask whoever thought it was better to do it the way it currently is :p |
| 00:55.19 | Bagginsww | I don't know |
| 00:55.32 | g0urra | heh okay |
| 00:55.45 | g0urra | anyway, gnight |
| 00:56.50 | Bagginsww | Forest troll makes sense |
| 00:56.53 | Bagginsww | its a race :p |
| 00:57.04 | Bagginsww | Zandalar troll is a race but its also the tribe :p |
| 00:57.07 | Bagginsww | ooops he left :p |
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| 01:05.56 | _Spike_ | There's a new icon that WoWwiki doesn't have yet - INV_Shoulder_89 |
| 01:06.12 | _Spike_ | If someone could upload it, I'd be appreciated. |
| 01:07.18 | _Spike_ | It's already on WoWhead (Thott, Alla & Co. don't have it yet) but I have no idea how to get an image from there. |
| 01:07.28 | kd3 | what item is that for? |
| 01:07.45 | Vysogota | 7 various items. |
| 01:07.46 | Sky2042 | whoa! |
| 01:08.02 | Sky2042 | Vysogota: i don't thnk theres a way to retrive it from wowhead, though let me look around. |
| 01:08.18 | Sky2042 | what item? |
| 01:08.33 | Vysogota | Pauldron of Perseverance for example. |
| 01:08.39 | Vysogota | *Pauldrons |
| 01:08.57 | Vysogota | Or Spaulders of the Thalassian Savior |
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| 01:09.26 | Vysogota | Or Spaulders of the Thalassian Defender |
| 01:09.45 | Vysogota | Or all the Season 4 plate shoulders. |
| 01:09.46 | kd3 | looks for his blp converter |
| 01:11.01 | Vysogota | These 7 items used to have old icons but it seems that it changed as of 2.4.2. |
| 01:11.58 | kd3 | gah... 85, 86, 88, 90, 91 |
| 01:12.03 | Sky2042_afk | Vysogota: can't get it from wowhead. the icon's on the page by javascript |
| 01:12.13 | Sky2042_afk | it's being served from somewhere of course :/ |
| 01:12.14 | Vysogota | I know :/ |
| 01:12.23 | kd3 | got it. any other icons while I've got the mpqs open? |
| 01:12.25 | Vysogota | That's why I came here for help. |
| 01:12.45 | Vysogota | No, I think that's the only one. |
| 01:12.47 | Sky2042_afk | kd3: thori'dal |
| 01:12.52 | Sky2042_afk | INV_WEAPON_BOW_39 |
| 01:13.36 | Sky2042_afk | nvm |
| 01:13.44 | Sky2042_afk | zeal got that one |
| 01:15.36 | kd3 | [[Image:INV Shoulder 89.png]] |
| 01:15.42 | Sky2042_afk | aye |
| 01:15.50 | Sky2042_afk | eek |
| 01:15.59 | Sky2042_afk | goes away to mow the lawn. |
| 01:16.16 | Vysogota | Yeah, that's it. |
| 01:16.20 | Vysogota | Thanks. |
| 01:16.20 | infobot | gern geschehen, Vysogota |
| 01:16.23 | kd3 | np |
| 01:16.43 | Vysogota | I'm not German, what does that mean? |
| 01:16.50 | kd3 | dunno |
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| 01:18.37 | kd3 | makes a rude gesture at his ISP |
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| 01:24.43 | Bagginsww | hmm tidal guardians are related to tube wyrms |
| 01:34.48 | pcj | wow |
| 01:34.51 | pcj | second cousins? |
| 01:38.33 | Bagginsww | well apparently there are different species of tube wyrms... |
| 01:38.48 | Bagginsww | not sure how a dragon like thing is anywhere similar to a giant barnacle type t hing... |
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| 02:29.10 | Vesitin | noob question: when should i spam heroic strike and when should i spam slam? |
| 02:36.43 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:57.05 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Life_spans |
| 04:19.14 | Mikk | Cairenn: coolio! |
| 04:19.18 | Mikk | Now give us an updater too :S |
| 04:19.34 | Mikk | Hrmph, wrong channel. Pardon. |
| 04:20.06 | Cairenn | Mikk: what do you mean give you an updater? there's already one :p |
| 04:20.29 | Cairenn | :) |
| 04:21.06 | Mikk | o.O |
| 04:21.08 | Mikk | WUU? |
| 04:21.11 | Cairenn | no |
| 04:21.22 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8239-WoWInterfaceUIManager-Windows.html |
| 04:21.28 | Cairenn | been there for ages now, dear |
| 04:21.35 | Mikk | Fine! I suck! |
| 04:21.36 | Cairenn | was a news report on it |
| 04:21.52 | Cairenn | there's also a Mac/*nix one as well |
| 04:22.09 | Mikk | cool stuff |
| 04:22.18 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8242-WoWInterfaceUIManager-GenericLinuxMacintosh.html |
| 04:22.39 | Cairenn | :) |
| 04:24.12 | Mikk | Will the wowui SVN happily pull externals from other sources? (Thinking primarily for embedded lib purposes here...) |
| 04:24.55 | Cairenn | dunno, need to ask in the lounge |
| 04:24.59 | Cairenn | I don't know from Svn |
| 04:25.14 | Mikk | moves conversation |
| 04:25.55 | Cairenn | remember the channel name change, though |
| 04:25.58 | Cairenn | #WoWUIDev |
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| 05:16.07 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Warofthethreehammers.jpg |
| 05:21.17 | Bagginsw | Vice Admiral Grezzlik |
| 05:21.21 | Bagginsw | leader of the Trade Fleets |
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| 05:46.40 | Bagginsw | two new zandali translations |
| 05:46.45 | Bagginsw | Atal'hakkar |
| 05:46.48 | Bagginsw | and Atal'ai |
| 05:55.25 | Bagginsw | why do we have two factionboxes? |
| 06:19.15 | Bagginsw | Defias Brotherhood has grown in size |
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| 07:03.26 | HolySheepy | Hi |
| 07:03.54 | HolySheepy | little question: here http://www.wowwiki.com/Axe_Specialization_%28warrior_talent%29 is says "[[Category: Warrior Talents]] Axe Specialization increases the chance a Warrior causes a Critical Hit, while wielding a one or two-handed axe.", but there no [[Category: Warrior Talents]] in the edit thing :/ |
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| 07:21.12 | Sky2042 | is it bad that i'm trying to add something to the spam-whitelist and the blacklist won't let me? |
| 07:21.14 | Sky2042 | >_< |
| 07:35.32 | HolySheepy | i dont get why it adds the category:warrior talents x.x |
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| 07:43.53 | HolySheepy | hm |
| 08:14.37 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn|sleep: if you're going to be awake, change the tag you goose. |
| 08:14.56 | Dotted | any css experts online? |
| 08:15.09 | Sky2042 | how expert is expert? |
| 08:15.38 | Dotted | sec |
| 08:16.25 | Fisker- | i'm fucking awesome |
| 08:17.05 | Sky2042 | Fisker-: your mom was fucking awesome. |
| 08:17.28 | Fisker- | yeah i know |
| 08:17.35 | Sky2042 | o_o |
| 08:17.46 | Dotted | how do you make a horizontal menu jump down on a new line? <br /> isnt enough since the menu itself is larger than a single line |
| 08:18.05 | Sky2042 | why not clear it? |
| 08:18.15 | Dotted | ah ofc |
| 08:18.19 | Dotted | im sleepy |
| 08:18.24 | Sky2042 | ok. |
| 08:18.29 | HolySheepy | he should be awake :P atleast he seems on wiki lol |
| 08:18.47 | Sky2042 | HolySheepy: that's why i left the comment on here. |
| 08:19.24 | Dotted | thx |
| 08:19.38 | HolySheepy | hm |
| 08:19.41 | HolySheepy | i need some awesome addons |
| 08:19.51 | Fisker- | slaps Dotted around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:19.53 | Fisker- | jeg er dig overlegen |
| 08:21.17 | Sky2042 | Fisker-: i am your overlord (guess on that last word)? |
| 08:21.34 | Fisker- | incorrect fool |
| 08:24.48 | HolySheepy | N> racebox or something with population :o |
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| 08:26.35 | Dotted | #menu .hidden { |
| 08:26.39 | Dotted | clear:left; |
| 08:26.42 | Dotted | float:left; |
| 08:26.46 | Dotted | } |
| 08:26.52 | Dotted | how fail |
| 08:27.19 | Adys | use divs for each line dotted |
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| 08:27.32 | Adys | or spans display:block'd |
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| 08:27.37 | Adys | ping Kirkburn |
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| 08:34.09 | laurly | ping adys |
| 08:35.02 | Dotted | seems IE liked the divs more |
| 08:35.38 | laurly | hey dotted any idea what happend to the page listing the nr of hits a day wiki gets? |
| 08:37.05 | Adys | pong laurly |
| 08:37.09 | Dotted | no idea |
| 08:37.18 | Dotted | go |
| 08:37.20 | Adys | hasnt it been disabled? |
| 08:37.23 | laurly | adys one line up add your name |
| 08:37.33 | Dotted | *god remote desktop is slow |
| 08:37.42 | laurly | hmm would be kewl to know how many hits wiki was getting :) |
| 08:38.05 | Adys | no idea tbh :/ |
| 08:38.29 | Sky2042_afk | 1.9 million uniques a month. |
| 08:38.35 | Sky2042_afk | excuse me, that's wrong. |
| 08:38.48 | Adys | lol sky |
| 08:39.00 | Sky2042_afk | i'm tired :( |
| 08:39.10 | Sky2042_afk | 3.8 million uniques* |
| 08:43.02 | Kirkburn | Adys? |
| 08:43.05 | Kirkburn | Morning all |
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| 08:54.34 | Kirkburn | What the hell is going on ... I'm barely even using the net >_> |
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| 08:58.12 | Kalroth | Not even leeching porn? |
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| 10:10.19 | HolySheepy | is the captcha a word from the article? O_o |
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| 10:24.46 | HolySheepy | hm |
| 10:24.54 | HolySheepy | i need an example of a pet ability article |
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| 11:35.07 | Dotted | why does Fx not like |
| 11:35.12 | Dotted | a:hover:first-letter, a:focus:first-letter { |
| 11:35.16 | Dotted | text-decoration:underline; |
| 11:35.19 | Dotted | } |
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| 11:44.22 | Fisker- | It's FF |
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| 11:57.11 | Adys | Dotted, .. how can you focus first-letter ? |
| 11:57.42 | Adys | and yes indeed Fisker- |
| 11:57.44 | Adys | it's FF |
| 11:57.46 | Adys | not Fx |
| 11:58.36 | Fisker- | No it's Fx! |
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| 12:22.50 | Dotted | lol you failures officially its Fx, unoficially its FF |
| 12:23.43 | Dotted | Adys i've had it working before, and im sure its the same code i used |
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| 12:32.51 | Lukian | It's IW |
| 12:33.33 | foxlit | It's Fs. |
| 12:33.45 | Fisker- | it's rm -rf / |
| 12:33.53 | foxlit | as in http://www.cosmicat.com/extensions/firesomething/ |
| 12:34.40 | Lukian | firesomething is a pretty awe extension |
| 12:34.46 | Lukian | I prefer iceweasel though ;p |
| 12:34.58 | Lukian | http://www.geticeweasel.org/ |
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| 12:35.46 | Adys | [14:34:35] <Dotted> +Adys i've had it working before, and im sure its the same code i used |
| 12:35.47 | Adys | eh |
| 12:35.52 | Adys | what were you trying to do? |
| 12:38.21 | Lukian | In a coding sense I usually call it GRE |
| 12:49.52 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:White_Kodo_Clan_(Feathermoon_US)/Timeline HAET |
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| 13:19.14 | g0urra | First I get called an admin, and now a "deity of the board, invisibly guiding us so we don't screw it up too badly" |
| 13:19.51 | pcj | don't let it go to your head, because you're not |
| 13:20.49 | g0urra | I know |
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| 13:22.36 | Kalroth | aww |
| 13:22.44 | Kalroth | You can be my deity, g0urra! |
| 13:25.42 | Dotted | Adys underline first-letter when hovered or focues |
| 13:25.55 | Dotted | reason being the first-letter is the same as the accesskey |
| 13:25.56 | Adys | how can you focus it? |
| 13:26.03 | Dotted | tab? |
| 13:26.09 | Adys | huh? |
| 13:26.16 | Adys | you cant focus first-letter |
| 13:26.20 | Adys | either you focus the word |
| 13:26.24 | Adys | or you focus nothing |
| 13:26.33 | Dotted | its the whole a tag you nub |
| 13:26.43 | Adys | a:focus |
| 13:26.48 | Dotted | ye |
| 13:26.50 | Adys | copypaste your snippet again |
| 13:27.02 | Dotted | a:focus:first-letter |
| 13:27.18 | Dotted | not a:first-letter:focus |
| 13:27.41 | Adys | just copypaste it |
| 13:28.41 | Dotted | dont have it here |
| 13:28.51 | Dotted | [13:35:05] [+Dotted]: a:hover:first-letter, a:focus:first-letter { |
| 13:28.51 | Dotted | [13:35:08] [+Dotted]: text-decoration:underline; |
| 13:28.51 | Dotted | [13:35:11] [+Dotted]: } |
| 13:29.15 | Adys | remove the second first-letter |
| 13:29.21 | Adys | you cant focus the first letter only |
| 13:29.30 | Adys | focus only happens on an entire element |
| 13:29.47 | Dotted | it is an entire element |
| 13:29.57 | pcj | ur mom |
| 13:30.27 | Adys | ur mom is a first-letter |
| 13:30.38 | Adys | first-letter cant be an entire element you nut |
| 13:30.54 | Adys | first-letter is the first character of whitespace-stripped El |
| 13:31.31 | Dotted | when a is hovered/focues underline first-letter, no? |
| 13:31.56 | Adys | written that way it'll trigger on hover/focus of first-letter |
| 13:32.01 | Adys | and will underline everything |
| 13:32.24 | Dotted | it doesnt do anything in Fx, and works fine in IE7 |
| 13:32.38 | Adys | a:hover, a:focus > a::first-letter { text-decoration: underline; } |
| 13:32.39 | Adys | try that |
| 13:33.52 | Dotted | cba to start my laptop |
| 13:34.13 | pcj | ... |
| 13:34.29 | Adys | :/ |
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| 13:47.49 | Dotted | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus |
| 13:51.06 | Keolah | So I took a look at today's weather forecast, and had to snicker at the fact that it said "Visibility: 10 miles". Man, my chars in WoW can hardly see 50 feet in front of them! ;p |
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| 14:00.28 | Dotted | Keolah why i love ArmA |
| 14:00.51 | Keolah | ? |
| 14:01.24 | Dotted | 10k km viewdistance |
| 14:01.38 | Keolah | I don't know what this is :P |
| 14:01.53 | Keolah | (But my chars are all myopic since I have my video settings set so low since my comp sucks) |
| 14:02.10 | Keolah | But that's okay. Moving tomorrow! And a new computer waiting for me! |
| 14:04.33 | Dotted | http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2232/5zd5.jpg |
| 14:04.44 | Dotted | not quite the best example |
| 14:06.51 | Keolah | Case in point, I can't even have a browser open at the same time as WoW without amazing lag on both ends ;p |
| 14:08.26 | Keolah | Now to see if I can level my troll hunter without interference from my nosy cat. |
| 14:08.40 | Fisker- | it's a client problem Keolah |
| 14:08.51 | Keolah | No, my computer just sucks. |
| 14:09.11 | Fisker- | perhaps |
| 14:09.17 | Fisker- | but it's still a client problem |
| 14:09.18 | Keolah | Ugh. Man, that'd be some excuse in an instance... "dude, we got wiped!" "Sorry, my cat jumped on the keyboard" |
| 14:10.12 | Keolah | No, I _intentionally_ set my video settings as low as they'd go :P |
| 14:10.35 | Dotted | Keolah www.bxd.dk/arma.png :D |
| 14:10.37 | Keolah | It's the only way I can manage to walk through Shat in less than 20 minutes. |
| 14:11.24 | Dotted | sounds like a ram upgrade to me |
| 14:11.36 | Keolah | Oh yes, I know. |
| 14:11.46 | Keolah | My new computer has 4x the ram of this one. ;p |
| 14:11.59 | Dotted | 2GB? :P |
| 14:12.19 | Keolah | Yeah. ;p |
| 14:15.05 | Dotted | AoC time |
| 14:15.23 | Keolah | Time to kill piggies! |
| 14:15.37 | Keolah | For their pork! |
| 14:16.05 | Dotted | wow windowed mode is sucky in AoC - on the fly resizé >_> |
| 14:16.06 | Keolah | Oh man. |
| 14:16.36 | Keolah | Yesterday, I tried to explain to a 12 year old that calling a male tauren a "bull" is not inaccurate.. they thought bulls and cows were different species, not different genders. |
| 14:16.53 | Dotted | LOL |
| 14:16.56 | Dotted | failures |
| 14:17.04 | pcj | more like steer |
| 14:18.33 | Keolah | And he was like, "Wait, all cows are female? Does that mean when you milk them you're giving them a handjob?" (well, with worse grammar and spelling) |
| 14:19.53 | Dotted | lol more fail |
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| 14:33.15 | soufron | hello |
| 14:34.36 | Vesitin | hai |
| 14:34.57 | Keolah | Ugh, why the hell are chunks of boar meat 2g a stack on my server? I just farmed 30 of em in like 10 minutes :P |
| 14:36.06 | Keolah | People are so lazy. |
| 14:36.37 | Vesitin | dude, i was getting 4-6g a stack for copper ore last week. |
| 14:36.47 | Keolah | Auction house has gone nuts lately. |
| 14:37.00 | Vesitin | yeah, it's all this inflation, and it's all the blood elves fault. |
| 14:37.01 | Keolah | I have nooo idea why _mageroyal_ is going at 10g a stack, either. |
| 14:37.12 | Vesitin | we need to do something about the blood elf problem |
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| 14:39.11 | HolySheepy | hm |
| 14:40.54 | pabst__ | whatsup |
| 14:42.51 | HolySheepy | whats the best way to say in rank table that the first rank is learned by a quest when the quest can be 6 different quests or something like that XD |
| 14:44.01 | HolySheepy | well, 3 different quests |
| 14:44.10 | Vesitin | you mean like the defensive stance quest? |
| 14:44.10 | g0urra | HolySheepy: what spell? |
| 14:44.17 | pabst__ | The ability is first learned by completing the x quest, blh blah? |
| 14:44.20 | Keolah | List the names of the quests along with the appropriate races? |
| 14:44.38 | Vesitin | or the tame beast quest |
| 14:44.47 | HolySheepy | Desperate Prayer |
| 14:45.14 | Vesitin | well, that's only two, isn't it...since only two races get desperate prayer? |
| 14:45.17 | Vesitin | or is there a third? |
| 14:45.37 | g0urra | only two |
| 14:45.42 | g0urra | human and dwarf |
| 14:45.45 | g0urra | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=desperate%20prayer#abilities |
| 14:46.00 | Vesitin | ah, i have a draenai priest, so i wouldn't know |
| 14:46.14 | g0urra | though it says it's a reward from 7 different quests.. |
| 14:46.16 | g0urra | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=13908#reward-from |
| 14:46.49 | HolySheepy | well, so whats the best way to add all the quests? ^^ |
| 14:47.22 | Vesitin | Say that it is obtained by a quest and link to the DP page? I don't know what the standards are, this is merely an uneducated suggestion |
| 14:47.23 | g0urra | and wtf http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Desperate_Prayer is tagged {{removedfromgame}} |
| 14:47.36 | g0urra | hm |
| 14:47.51 | HolySheepy | Vesitin: DP page? |
| 14:47.55 | Vesitin | I remember doing the starshards quest on my nightelf but i don't remember doing a symbol of hope or fear ward quest on my draenai... |
| 14:47.58 | Vesitin | desperate prayer |
| 14:47.58 | g0urra | talk page says it's trained now, and not a quest |
| 14:48.05 | g0urra | DP = Desperate Prayer |
| 14:48.12 | HolySheepy | Vesitin: then i would link from the dp page to dp page |
| 14:48.13 | HolySheepy | :p |
| 14:48.19 | Vesitin | oh. |
| 14:49.21 | g0urra | Well the ability is no longer a quest reward, but learned from trainer. |
| 14:49.23 | g0urra | Problem solved. |
| 14:49.27 | foxlit | "From a Human Trainer: ... Elune be with you, good <race>." |
| 14:54.46 | HolySheepy | huh |
| 14:54.53 | HolySheepy | since when was detect lesser invisibility removed |
| 14:55.06 | Vesitin | detect lesser invisibility for whom? |
| 14:55.28 | HolySheepy | warlock buff |
| 14:55.36 | foxlit | A while ago |
| 14:55.46 | HolySheepy | xD |
| 14:55.52 | Vesitin | it's not removed...i got it cast on me yesterday in undercity and i killed all the invisible apparaitions. |
| 14:56.08 | HolySheepy | o.o |
| 14:56.21 | HolySheepy | http://www.wowwiki.com/Detect_Lesser_Invisibility ? |
| 14:56.49 | foxlit | You are only partially correct |
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| 14:56.58 | foxlit | They merged the three ranks, so Lesser and Greater no longer exist |
| 14:57.09 | foxlit | There's just detect invisibility |
| 14:57.21 | HolySheepy | oh k |
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| 14:58.56 | HolySheepy | is there a WIP template? |
| 14:59.04 | HolySheepy | or something that says "is currently being edited" |
| 14:59.27 | foxlit | stabs Adys |
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| 15:00.01 | g0urra | HolySheepy: for what? |
| 15:00.47 | HolySheepy | so that people dont edit it while im editing it? :p |
| 15:00.50 | g0urra | use Preview button to do small changes |
| 15:01.07 | g0urra | s/do small changes/see the result of your edits/ |
| 15:01.19 | HolySheepy | lol |
| 15:01.35 | g0urra | what are you editing? |
| 15:01.37 | HolySheepy | yeah but when someone changes something while im editing then i'll overwrite it |
| 15:01.43 | HolySheepy | skills |
| 15:02.13 | HolySheepy | well, all boilerplate requests |
| 15:02.36 | HolySheepy | ist detect invisibility more like utility or defensive? |
| 15:02.39 | HolySheepy | i would say utility |
| 15:02.41 | g0urra | utility |
| 15:03.23 | Keolah | I would think edit conflicts unlikely, and would'nt it say, anyway? I rarely ever ran into edit conflicts even on Wikipedia, and there's a lot more people on that :P |
| 15:03.28 | g0urra | also, talent != ability, so use {{infobox talent}} for talents (obviously) |
| 15:04.06 | HolySheepy | well |
| 15:04.08 | HolySheepy | it isnt a talent |
| 15:04.09 | HolySheepy | :p |
| 15:05.22 | g0urra | Did I say it is a talent? |
| 15:05.56 | HolySheepy | nope |
| 15:06.08 | HolySheepy | but you must have said that sentence for some reason :p |
| 15:06.18 | HolySheepy | hm that detect invisiblity stuff confuses me x.x |
| 15:06.55 | HolySheepy | was it called Detect Lesser Invisiblity with 3 ranks or what O_o |
| 15:06.58 | HolySheepy | or was it 3 skills? |
| 15:07.00 | HolySheepy | Lesser |
| 15:07.03 | HolySheepy | Normal, Greater |
| 15:08.06 | g0urra | there was Detect Less Invisbility, Detect Lesser Invisibility, and Detect Lessest Invisibility |
| 15:08.22 | g0urra | s/Invisbility/Invisibility/ |
| 15:08.26 | HolySheepy | then why does it say it hat 3 ranks |
| 15:08.34 | HolySheepy | *had |
| 15:08.54 | g0urra | fact: not everything said on the internet is the truth. |
| 15:09.11 | g0urra | I lied. |
| 15:09.30 | HolySheepy | fact: most of the skill articles seem to be very old xD |
| 15:09.47 | HolySheepy | i even had one without bc ranks |
| 15:09.48 | HolySheepy | x.x |
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| 15:19.50 | sacarasc_ | i just got moaned at for taking a +sd thing as a mage |
| 15:21.43 | g0urra | sacarasc_: what item? |
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| 15:36.17 | HolySheepy | where can i view the template for infobox pet ability |
| 15:37.39 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Infobox_pet_ability |
| 15:37.40 | g0urra | HolySheepy: use infobox ability |
| 15:37.47 | g0urra | ^ |
| 15:37.58 | HolySheepy | why that |
| 15:38.27 | g0urra | nevermind me. |
| 15:38.32 | HolySheepy | o.o |
| 15:38.37 | HolySheepy | *confused* |
| 15:38.38 | HolySheepy | XD |
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| 15:41.58 | pcj | the guard does |
| 15:42.32 | winkiller | oh, at the mage trainer |
| 15:42.40 | sacarasc_ | g0urra: the bracers that drop in RFC, the priest wanted them |
| 15:42.46 | winkiller | was so focused on shattrath that I hadn't thought of that :P thanks |
| 15:43.09 | winkiller | and when you portal to Exodar, do you land at the portal trainer? or elsewhere? |
| 15:43.21 | pcj | probably |
| 15:43.37 | g0urra | sacarasc_: more itemized for priests I'd say |
| 15:44.03 | g0urra | though you could moan at the priest if he tries to take the robe :> |
| 15:44.05 | sacarasc_ | its ok though, he got the robe ;\ |
| 15:44.15 | g0urra | heh |
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| 16:17.34 | pcj | ~seen kirkburn |
| 16:17.37 | infobot | kirkburn <n=Kirkburn@wikia/Kirkburn> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 7h 23m 3s ago, saying: 'What the hell is going on ... I'm barely even using the net >_>'. |
| 16:20.49 | pcj | can someone differentiate class="socket" between socket and socket bonus on http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Tooltip |
| 16:20.55 | pcj | slaps Adys |
| 16:20.57 | pcj | slaps foxlit |
| 16:20.59 | pcj | slaps kd3 |
| 16:21.00 | Adys | :/ |
| 16:21.09 | Adys | cba |
| 16:21.19 | Keolah | That new troll gargle sound for rage type abilities is freaky. |
| 16:21.21 | pcj | arses Adys anyway |
| 16:21.27 | Keolah | Especially when it's a female blood elf doing it. |
| 16:21.42 | pcj | Especially since female blood elves can't be warriors |
| 16:21.51 | Keolah | Yeah. But the NPCs do it. |
| 16:21.54 | pcj | Fake |
| 16:24.19 | Keolah | And my female troll warrior protests at gurgling like a male troll. |
| 16:28.07 | foxlit | WSG berserker, np |
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| 16:51.01 | Adys | Fucking country |
| 16:51.07 | Adys | I want to shoot half of france |
| 16:52.23 | Kaso | thats more like it! |
| 16:55.40 | Keolah | I want to shoot half of Earth. |
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| 17:16.12 | HolySheepy | uh |
| 17:16.29 | Kaso | oh? |
| 17:16.50 | HolySheepy | http://www.wowwiki.com/Bargrin_Stonefist why does this need a npcbox? |
| 17:18.15 | Arcanedeath | Because of the ethical implications of such a diverse calibration |
| 17:18.51 | Kaso | wtf ^ |
| 17:19.23 | HolySheepy | hm i need some image to use when there is no image |
| 17:19.23 | HolySheepy | :/ |
| 17:19.48 | Arcanedeath | Get a picture of a larper |
| 17:20.54 | Kaso | It does seem to me that npcbox isnt the most sutible for lore charaters, but im not expect on that field |
| 17:21.32 | Arcanedeath | What about loreguybox |
| 17:21.58 | Arcanedeath | Whatever you do lets not have the mobbox problem again |
| 17:23.00 | Arideni | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Silly - spelling error at the top, "manhwa." |
| 17:23.29 | Arcanedeath | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category%3ASilly&diff=1274179&oldid=1141417 |
| 17:23.44 | HolySheepy | is it doesn't or does'nt ? xD |
| 17:23.47 | HolySheepy | first one? |
| 17:24.07 | Arideni | doesn't |
| 17:24.26 | Arideni | Apostrophies go where the contracted letter occurs. |
| 17:24.44 | HolySheepy | N> good example article for a talent-skill |
| 17:24.52 | Arcanedeath | fixed |
| 17:25.18 | Arcanedeath | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category%3ASilly&diff=1371475&oldid=1274179 |
| 17:25.30 | Arideni | Oh, maybe I couldn't change the "manhwa" because I wasn't logged in,=p |
| 17:26.01 | Arcanedeath | there are only 2 does'nt in the entire wiki, I'll fix them |
| 17:26.43 | HolySheepy | any article? :x |
| 17:27.40 | HolySheepy | ah pyroblast |
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| 17:28.17 | Keolah | I heart the Barrens. |
| 17:28.53 | HolySheepy | is Omen of Clarity Offensive, Utility or Defensive? O_o |
| 17:29.00 | Arcanedeath | Wow. I think I just found the article with the worst spelling ever. http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Guild%3AChaldkydri_(Anachronos_EU)&diff=1371479&oldid=1146807 |
| 17:30.15 | g0urra | HolySheepy: Utility |
| 17:31.43 | Arideni | Utility |
| 17:32.40 | g0urra | Arcanedeath: almost the whole guild is vandalized |
| 17:32.43 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Guild:Chaldkydri_(Anachronos_EU)&diff=next&oldid=839997 |
| 17:33.01 | HolySheepy | lol |
| 17:33.59 | g0urra | I mean guild page |
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| 17:36.14 | Arcanedeath | lol I wasn't reading it just correcting spelling XD |
| 17:36.29 | Keolah | I think my blood has been replaced by chocolate milk. |
| 17:36.37 | g0urra | Aren't you reading it when you correct spelling? |
| 17:36.59 | Keolah | I once had this great quote... "Milk tastes like chocolate milk, but without the chocolate." |
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| 17:38.11 | HolySheepy | so many boilerplate requests left T_T |
| 17:38.49 | HolySheepy | the most annoying stuff about it is finding the correct information |
| 17:40.04 | Arideni | Is it nightsabres or night sabres" |
| 17:40.09 | Arideni | lol^_^;' |
| 17:40.22 | pcj | hawt you're doing BP requests |
| 17:40.23 | Arcanedeath | This is fun to do. http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki_talk%3ANP_Patrol&diff=1371496&oldid=1104159 |
| 17:40.46 | pcj | ...don't do that |
| 17:41.09 | Arcanedeath | Why? |
| 17:41.25 | Arcanedeath | I asked if it was ok to fix peoples spelling here and someone said yes. |
| 17:41.32 | pcj | Not on talk pages |
| 17:41.37 | Arcanedeath | Oh. |
| 17:42.03 | Arcanedeath | Not even if they say "tooo"? |
| 17:42.04 | Arideni | Oh, I guess it is "Nightsaber" |
| 17:44.02 | g0urra | Arcanedeath, no |
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| 17:44.31 | Arcanedeath | I'll undo it |
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| 17:45.08 | Vesitin | i must still be tired. for a while, i was lurking here, and i thought your 'nightsabre" was a typo for "lightsabre"...but I couldn't think of a point in the game that looks like a lightsabre, save for a few weapons whose names escape me |
| 17:45.23 | Keolah | A sword with a glow cast on it? |
| 17:45.33 | Arcanedeath | But why can't I edit talk pages to fix spelling? |
| 17:45.41 | Vesitin | althought a blood elf rogue dual-wielding light sabres would TOTALLY look like a jedi. |
| 17:45.44 | Arcanedeath | Isn't that contributing to the wiki? |
| 17:45.47 | Keolah | because talk pages aren't articles, they're discussion. |
| 17:46.06 | Arcanedeath | Oh well |
| 17:46.20 | Arcanedeath | It was fun |
| 17:46.21 | Keolah | Generally it's considered poor etiquette to edit someone else's comments on a talk page, unlike the articles themselves. |
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| 17:47.21 | g0urra | "omg someone's grammar is crap, I NEED TO EDIT" |
| 17:47.32 | Arcanedeath | lol |
| 17:49.08 | Arcanedeath | This looks like it could be a copyright violation. http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Scout_rangers1.jpg |
| 17:49.41 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Mumbatik ._. |
| 17:49.44 | Arcanedeath | And what does that users talk page have to do with WoWWiki anyway? http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Mumbatik&rcid=1353084 |
| 17:49.48 | Arcanedeath | lol |
| 17:50.09 | Arcanedeath | Name: Unknown |
| 17:50.09 | Arcanedeath | AKA: Colonel Marc the Black Cat |
| 17:50.56 | Arcanedeath | It's a page about his imaginary team and their weapons |
| 17:51.30 | HolySheepy | hm does anyone know any good site for lookin up skill, talent, item and quest information? |
| 17:51.33 | HolySheepy | thottbot is a bit unsorted |
| 17:51.33 | HolySheepy | xD |
| 17:51.42 | pcj | wowhead |
| 17:52.31 | Bagginsw | so, the Mackrura prawn, have we seen that design in the WoW? |
| 17:53.35 | Arcanedeath | What? |
| 17:53.44 | Arcanedeath | What is a prawn? |
| 17:53.56 | pcj | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prawn |
| 17:54.04 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Makrura |
| 17:54.14 | Bagginsw | well I also made the makrura prawn article yesterday |
| 17:54.17 | Arcanedeath | Oh |
| 17:54.21 | Arcanedeath | Interesting |
| 17:54.51 | Arcanedeath | It would be nice to get an in-game image for that |
| 17:54.56 | g0urra | they look pretty big. |
| 17:55.03 | Bagginsw | I wondered if it inspired the second makrura model in the game |
| 17:55.17 | Bagginsw | the one used by bogstrok |
| 17:55.31 | Bagginsw | but its been a while since I played the game to remember the differences |
| 17:55.48 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lobstrok |
| 17:56.33 | Arcanedeath | I thought data mining isn't allowed? |
| 17:56.42 | Bagginsw | strangely no one bothered to get a screenshot of a bogstrok :p |
| 17:56.48 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Bogstrok |
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| 17:58.00 | Bagginsw | guess there is a pc of rokmar |
| 17:58.10 | g0urra | Arcanedeath: that's not datamining |
| 17:58.30 | Bagginsw | although not really all that similar... |
| 17:58.32 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Rokmar.jpg |
| 17:58.56 | Bagginsw | so my guess the prawn is something we haven't seen yet... Unless I'm forgetting something from War3. |
| 17:59.47 | Bagginsw | oh gourra we have language info for Mur'gol now if you want to racebox them :) |
| 18:00.09 | g0urra | Mur'gol? |
| 18:01.34 | Bagginsw | a warcraft 3 enemy |
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| 18:02.07 | Bagginsw | probably mispelling it :p |
| 18:02.36 | Bagginsw | mur'gul |
| 18:02.45 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Mur%27gul |
| 18:02.52 | Arcanedeath | WHat is the unwikified template? |
| 18:02.58 | g0urra | they look like murlocs |
| 18:03.31 | Arcanedeath | That top image looks like a murloc with that evil spiderman suit on it |
| 18:03.46 | g0urra | Bagginsw: you go boilerplate, I don't have DF :) |
| 18:04.23 | Bagginsw | I just hate using the templates I always forget to close them lol |
| 18:04.42 | Bagginsw | or remembering all the sections :p |
| 18:04.54 | Bagginsw | anycase I'll just copy and paste from murloc or something and change the fields |
| 18:05.48 | Arcanedeath | Can I edit Template:Wikify to put pages in the Articles that need to be wikified category? |
| 18:06.19 | Arcanedeath | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Wikify http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Articles_that_need_to_be_wikified |
| 18:07.07 | Bagginsw | if anyone is interested I added more terms to the Zandali language article :) |
| 18:08.05 | Bagginsw | and we now have an official image of a hobgoblin too, beyond the concept art |
| 18:08.27 | HolySheepy | hm |
| 18:08.40 | HolySheepy | someone should do a blood elven language |
| 18:09.58 | Bagginsw | its the same as high elven language :p |
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| 18:10.04 | Bagginsw | Thalassian |
| 18:10.19 | HolySheepy | yeah |
| 18:10.23 | HolySheepy | someone should do one |
| 18:10.23 | Vesitin | Blood Elves *are* high elves, that have just developed an addiction to magic. |
| 18:10.25 | Bagginsw | we already have the article |
| 18:10.41 | Arcanedeath | Naga are high elves |
| 18:10.41 | Bagginsw | well they have mutated a bit from base high elves. |
| 18:10.58 | Arcanedeath | Just mutated a little bit |
| 18:10.58 | Bagginsw | and their cultures are very different |
| 18:11.02 | HolySheepy | ok lets say: someone should make one |
| 18:11.02 | Vesitin | naga are high elves too but i forgot what made them into naga |
| 18:11.20 | Bagginsw | from a cultural stand point its like saying the arabians are the same as the jews. |
| 18:11.41 | Bagginsw | if going by bibical standpoint |
| 18:12.00 | Bagginsw | they both came from brothers. |
| 18:12.01 | HolySheepy | i would do it, but i don't have time, no experience and no idea how to start :D |
| 18:12.07 | HolySheepy | im not that good with analyzing languages |
| 18:12.08 | HolySheepy | xD |
| 18:12.29 | Arcanedeath | So, should we merge the Mok'Nathal with the orcs or the ogres? |
| 18:12.36 | Bagginsw | nope |
| 18:12.44 | Bagginsw | its a faction page |
| 18:12.50 | Arcanedeath | I |
| 18:12.55 | Keolah | methinks the point is that the blood elves are still speaking Thalassian. |
| 18:12.59 | Arcanedeath | I'm being sarcastic |
| 18:13.17 | Bagginsw | there are alot of cultures that speak the same languages but aren't the ame people in real life ;) |
| 18:13.29 | Bagginsw | sure we are all humans, but there are different ethnic groups |
| 18:13.31 | Keolah | I can't imagine that the differences between what they speak and what the high elves speak as being even as much as the difference between US English and British English. |
| 18:13.45 | HolySheepy | you know, analyizing known sentences, filter out some rules/words as how they are build, and then start building rules around these things and new words |
| 18:13.51 | HolySheepy | so it will become a full language |
| 18:13.51 | Bagginsw | we don't know enough |
| 18:14.07 | Keolah | That'd be up for Blizzard to do, really. |
| 18:14.19 | HolySheepy | yeah, but they wont do it |
| 18:14.21 | Bagginsw | but its got alot of similarities to Tolkien's Elvish |
| 18:14.35 | Bagginsw | and there is enough for you to speak that if you wanted to :p |
| 18:14.53 | Keolah | I mean, you could do it in fanfic, but there's no way you'll get more canon language unless blizzard releases an elvish language guide like star trek did with Klingon ;p |
| 18:15.05 | Bagginsw | which would be silly ;) |
| 18:15.11 | Keolah | ... and people would probably buy it. |
| 18:15.37 | Bagginsw | but ya if you wanted to do it yourself, you could merge the tolkien elvish and throw in the few thallasian words that we know into it :p |
| 18:15.52 | Bagginsw | there are plenty of elvish guides out there :p |
| 18:15.59 | HolySheepy | i dont think blizzard has more of the language than the current sentences :p |
| 18:15.59 | Keolah | Or do what they do in-game, and just say "Anu belore delana" to mean everything! :P |
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| 18:16.10 | Bagginsw | lol |
| 18:16.12 | Arcanedeath | !roll 1337d1337 |
| 18:16.12 | Arcanebot | User arcanedeath rolled 1337d1337 Result: 914728 Rolls: Too many rolls to display. |
| 18:16.14 | Bagginsw | da kine |
| 18:16.17 | Arcanedeath | lol |
| 18:17.35 | Fisker- | !roll 1d20 |
| 18:17.35 | Arcanebot | User fisker- rolled 1d20 Result: 16 Rolls: 16 |
| 18:18.15 | HolySheepy | !help |
| 18:18.24 | Vesitin | i never played dnd so you have to explain to me how these roll things work |
| 18:18.45 | Keolah | the number before the d is how many dice are rolled, the number after is how many sides they have. |
| 18:19.06 | HolySheepy | !roll 3d-2,632 |
| 18:19.06 | Arcanebot | Invalid input. |
| 18:19.09 | HolySheepy | :< |
| 18:19.29 | Vesitin | ah, so the traditional 2x 6-sided dice would bve represented as |
| 18:19.32 | Vesitin | !roll 2d6 |
| 18:19.32 | Arcanebot | User vesitin rolled 2d6 Result: 7 Rolls: 3, 4 |
| 18:19.36 | Keolah | Correct. |
| 18:19.39 | Vesitin | Hahah! Seven! |
| 18:19.42 | Fisker- | !roll 10d100 |
| 18:19.42 | Arcanebot | Invalid input. |
| 18:19.45 | Vesitin | !roll 2d6 |
| 18:19.45 | Arcanebot | User vesitin rolled 2d6 Result: 5 Rolls: 4, 1 |
| 18:19.45 | Fisker- | fail |
| 18:19.47 | Fisker- | FAIL |
| 18:19.54 | Arcanedeath | I set a maximum on purpose |
| 18:19.57 | Fisker- | !roll 1d100 |
| 18:19.57 | Arcanebot | Invalid input. |
| 18:20.00 | Vesitin | Damn, was hoping to 11. |
| 18:20.00 | Arcanedeath | i will raise it |
| 18:20.02 | Fisker- | yeah but it fails Arcanebot |
| 18:20.10 | Fisker- | there's a 100 sided dice |
| 18:20.14 | Arcanedeath | okey dokey I'll up it and add a help |
| 18:20.15 | Keolah | Pfft, my dice script goes up to 10000! ;p |
| 18:20.18 | Vesitin | ( ireally don't know how to play craps, i just think i've been told seven on the first roll is good) |
| 18:21.01 | Keolah | Limitations of real dice are rarely applicable with the digital sort... there aren't many 3-sided dice, for instance, but a computer has no trouble with it :) |
| 18:21.39 | HolySheepy | hm |
| 18:21.43 | Fisker- | you can't make a 3-sided dice :o |
| 18:21.48 | HolySheepy | so lets find a possible 3-sided design xD |
| 18:21.58 | Keolah | You can, sort of, just not as a regular polyhedron. |
| 18:22.15 | Fisker- | ITS IMPOSSIBLE KEOLAH |
| 18:22.15 | pcj | A cylinder would work as a three-sided dice, sort of |
| 18:22.16 | Fisker- | RARW |
| 18:22.16 | Vesitin | well, yeah...all a computerized dye is is a random number generator with a constant minimum (1) and a variable maximum |
| 18:22.19 | Keolah | The 3-sided dice I've seen were like a 3-sided cylendar that you rolled on its side. |
| 18:22.31 | Fisker- | damn |
| 18:22.34 | Fisker- | now you're thinking with hax |
| 18:22.38 | Bagginsw | its a triangle not a cylinder lol |
| 18:22.40 | g0urra | ~g0urra |
| 18:22.41 | infobot | well, g0urra is an infobot interrogator. I wish he'd leave me alone. |
| 18:22.45 | Bagginsw | how can you roll it well? |
| 18:22.57 | Keolah | The edges would be rounded? |
| 18:23.15 | pcj | A 2D triangle which is extruded into a 3D environment would have 5 sides baggins |
| 18:23.17 | Keolah | I mean, how can you roll a d4 very well? |
| 18:23.39 | Vesitin | bbiab guys, taking dog for a walk |
| 18:23.40 | Keolah | It doesn't really roll, you just kinda shake it up and see which point lands up. |
| 18:23.42 | Bagginsw | well i'm not sure there is a term for a long box with a trianglure form |
| 18:24.14 | Keolah | Also, if you walk around in bare feet much, be sure not to misplace any d4s on the floor. ;p |
| 18:24.17 | Bagginsw | at least for d4 it bounces ;) |
| 18:24.23 | HolySheepy | randomness is the absence of knowledge :/ |
| 18:24.45 | Bagginsw | d4 is a pyramid right? |
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| 18:24.57 | Arcanedeath | !help |
| 18:24.58 | Arcanebot | Commands: |
| 18:25.06 | Arcanedeath | oops |
| 18:25.12 | HolySheepy | Lol |
| 18:25.12 | Keolah | Yup. |
| 18:25.23 | *** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@wikia/Kirkburn) |
| 18:25.23 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn] by ChanServ |
| 18:25.40 | *** join/#wowwiki Arcanebot (n=Arcanebo@unaffiliated/arcanedeath) |
| 18:25.42 | Keolah | I've never stepped on one... :P |
| 18:25.42 | Fisker- | using teh nets Kirkburn? |
| 18:25.42 | Bagginsw | ya sounds painful ;) |
| 18:25.43 | Fisker- | !help |
| 18:25.43 | Arcanebot | Commands: |
| 18:25.43 | Arcanebot | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.53 | Arcanedeath | oops again |
| 18:25.58 | Fisker- | !roll 1d100 |
| 18:25.59 | Arcanebot | User fisker- rolled 1d100 Result: 6 Rolls: 6 |
| 18:26.02 | Fisker- | fail |
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| 18:26.03 | Fisker- | !roll 1d100 |
| 18:26.03 | Arcanebot | User fisker- rolled 1d100 Result: 52 Rolls: 52 |
| 18:26.04 | Kirkburn | Evening |
| 18:26.09 | Fisker- | !roll 1d100 |
| 18:26.09 | Arcanebot | User fisker- rolled 1d100 Result: 61 Rolls: 61 |
| 18:26.09 | pcj | hi kirkburn |
| 18:26.12 | Fisker- | !roll 1d100 |
| 18:26.12 | Arcanebot | User fisker- rolled 1d100 Result: 26 Rolls: 26 |
| 18:26.14 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 18:26.15 | Fisker- | i suck |
| 18:26.16 | HolySheepy | let's play roll for a wow chest |
| 18:26.19 | HolySheepy | !roll 1d100 |
| 18:26.22 | pcj | it's gone |
| 18:26.27 | HolySheepy | T_T |
| 18:26.31 | *** join/#wowwiki Arcanebot (n=Arcanebo@unaffiliated/arcanedeath) |
| 18:26.36 | HolySheepy | !roll 1d100 |
| 18:26.36 | Arcanebot | User holysheepy rolled 1d100 Result: 51 Rolls: 51 |
| 18:26.40 | HolySheepy | 51! |
| 18:26.51 | pcj | kirkburn: would adding the functionality to let users add enchantments and gems to tooltips on an individual basis be useful |
| 18:27.02 | Keolah | Bah, it'd probably be full of junk anyway! :P |
| 18:27.24 | Kirkburn | pcj, I have no opinion |
| 18:27.46 | Arcanedeath | !roll 10000d100000 |
| 18:27.46 | Arcanebot | User arcanedeath rolled 10000d100000 Result: 492366174 Rolls: Too many rolls to display. |
| 18:27.52 | Fisker- | owned Kirkburn |
| 18:27.56 | Keolah | heh |
| 18:29.44 | HolySheepy | http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rpfz3m11bsk |
| 18:29.56 | Ose | pcj, me likeys teh idea |
| 18:30.01 | Arcanedeath | !roll 1d1337 |
| 18:30.01 | Arcanebot | User arcanedeath rolled 1d1337 Result: 409 Rolls: 409 |
| 18:30.30 | Arcanedeath | I guess that 409 cleaning stuff is really leet |
| 18:31.19 | Keolah | lol |
| 18:33.52 | pcj | my idea was that since it's a wiki letting users customize the tooltips for themselves makes sense |
| 18:35.48 | HolySheepy | hm how do i get this Suggestion List thingy away without using enter or clicking on one of the entries |
| 18:38.40 | Kirkburn | Adys, you've been pinging me? |
| 18:38.51 | Kirkburn | If it's about OpenWDB, I'm moving forward with it |
| 18:38.56 | pcj | oooo |
| 18:39.21 | Kirkburn | pcj, if you want to add the ability it's fine by me :) |
| 18:45.09 | Bagginsw | gourra could you add "alignment" to various infobox options? But as a optional option? |
| 18:45.33 | Bagginsw | like the faction and raceboxes should be sufficient |
| 18:45.48 | Vesitin | !roll 200d1000 |
| 18:45.48 | Arcanebot | User vesitin rolled 200d1000 Result: 100179 Rolls: Too many rolls to display. |
| 18:45.57 | Vesitin | !roll 10d100 |
| 18:45.57 | Arcanebot | User vesitin rolled 10d100 Result: 570 Rolls: 57, 84, 48, 23, 23, 59, 83, 54, 67, 72 |
| 18:46.03 | Vesitin | !roll 50d100 |
| 18:46.03 | Arcanebot | User vesitin rolled 50d100 Result: 2630 Rolls: 96, 64, 66, 11, 63, 89, 3, 14, 61, 96, 39, 39, 22, 96, 90, 66, 8, 43, 71, 53, 7, 62, 64, 95, 83, 15, 100, 63, 73, 35, 61, 44, 29, 35, 36, 39, 44, 75, 66, 21, 13, 48, 9, 5, 83, 72, 85, 69, 70, 39 |
| 18:46.06 | pcj | roll spam is annoying |
| 18:46.10 | Vesitin | !roll 100d100 |
| 18:46.10 | Arcanebot | User vesitin rolled 100d100 Result: 5578 Rolls: Too many rolls to display. |
| 18:46.19 | Vesitin | so it's somewhere between 50 and 100... |
| 18:46.41 | Keolah | Spammers are annoying. |
| 18:46.51 | Keolah | Personally, it's gold spammers I hate. :p |
| 18:46.59 | Vesitin | oh i know |
| 18:47.08 | Vesitin | moreover, i hate getting powerlevel spam...on my bank alt. |
| 18:47.19 | Keolah | Like, geez... I have two level 70s with epic flying mounts. I do not need to buy gold :P |
| 18:48.04 | Keolah | And don't need somebody else to play the game for me either. |
| 18:48.09 | Keolah | I don't get it. |
| 18:48.10 | g0urra | btw Bagginsw it's g0urra, with a zero |
| 18:48.28 | g0urra | and what do you mean with "alignment"? |
| 18:48.30 | Keolah | Am i weird because I _like_ leveling? :p |
| 18:48.36 | g0urra | no |
| 18:48.56 | g0urra | I see leveling as a way to not having to interect with people in my guild that I don't have to like |
| 18:49.06 | g0urra | s/interect/interact/ |
| 18:49.09 | Bagginsw | oh btw we now know who was behind the goblins during the second war:) |
| 18:49.13 | Keolah | heh |
| 18:49.22 | g0urra | let me guess, deathwing |
| 18:49.24 | Bagginsw | gourra, such as "evil", "good" "neutral", "lawful" etc |
| 18:49.33 | g0urra | no zero no ping |
| 18:49.53 | Arcanedeath | You can private message the bot if you want to roll |
| 18:49.58 | g0urra | and Bagginsw, I'll let you do that, I'm "busy" raiding BT |
| 18:50.15 | Bagginsw | I'm no good with template construction :p |
| 18:50.36 | Bagginsw | every time I tried to add a new cell to the templates I broke the templates :p |
| 18:50.41 | g0urra | lol |
| 18:50.44 | Keolah | I'm busy trying to find Rocklance again... bastard's got it coming! |
| 18:51.01 | Bagginsw | gourra don't have to do it right now |
| 18:51.04 | Bagginsw | just when you get the time |
| 18:51.16 | Bagginsw | race, character, and faction should suffice. |
| 18:59.34 | HolySheepy | uh |
| 18:59.45 | HolySheepy | whats a good way to use Ability Boilerplate with rogue finishing moves? |
| 19:00.03 | HolySheepy | Just do like |
| 19:00.14 | HolySheepy | Stuns for X seconds. |
| 19:00.21 | HolySheepy | and in rank table the combo points? |
| 19:02.36 | g0urra | HolySheepy: do it like it's listed on http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=408 |
| 19:02.49 | HolySheepy | well |
| 19:02.58 | HolySheepy | for the highest rank? |
| 19:03.08 | HolySheepy | well can't get such a list :p |
| 19:03.25 | g0urra | lowest-highest damage |
| 19:03.49 | HolySheepy | huh? |
| 19:03.51 | HolySheepy | so like |
| 19:03.56 | HolySheepy | 1 point : 1-2 seconds |
| 19:03.57 | HolySheepy | ? |
| 19:04.09 | Keolah | I'd think you'd want to list the effect for each rank. |
| 19:04.26 | HolySheepy | i cant list every effect in the infobox |
| 19:04.27 | HolySheepy | XD |
| 19:04.40 | Keolah | Why does the infobox need to do all that? ;p |
| 19:04.41 | HolySheepy | usually rank table is used for that |
| 19:04.41 | HolySheepy | o.o |
| 19:05.21 | HolySheepy | well im just asking what i should put into the infobox skill description ^^ |
| 19:05.33 | Keolah | As I'd think the _page_ would have tables for each rank listing the effect per combo point. |
| 19:05.42 | HolySheepy | yeah |
| 19:05.52 | HolySheepy | it has, still i have to write something into skill desc :P |
| 19:06.04 | HolySheepy | so should i do like |
| 19:06.13 | HolySheepy | 1 point : X second(s) |
| 19:06.19 | HolySheepy | 2 points: X second(s) |
| 19:06.21 | HolySheepy | ? O_o |
| 19:06.31 | HolySheepy | thats how e.g. Arcane Intellect does it |
| 19:06.35 | HolySheepy | "increases intellect by X" |
| 19:07.12 | g0urra | ...what. |
| 19:07.16 | HolySheepy | lol |
| 19:07.17 | g0urra | just make a rank table. |
| 19:07.23 | HolySheepy | ... |
| 19:07.24 | HolySheepy | im going to |
| 19:07.33 | HolySheepy | but im asking what i should write into skill description |
| 19:07.33 | HolySheepy | xD |
| 19:07.55 | HolySheepy | cant look at the other finishing moves, since they arent boilerplated |
| 19:07.55 | g0urra | "Increases the target's Intellect by X for 30 min. |
| 19:07.55 | g0urra | " |
| 19:07.55 | HolySheepy | :x |
| 19:07.56 | g0urra | done |
| 19:08.00 | HolySheepy | ehr |
| 19:08.15 | HolySheepy | yeah but arcane intellect has only that effect so kidney shot owuld be like |
| 19:08.22 | Keolah | "Stuns target for X seconds." |
| 19:08.42 | HolySheepy | "Finishing move that stuns the target. |
| 19:08.42 | HolySheepy | Lasts longer per combo point: |
| 19:08.43 | HolySheepy | 1 point : X second(s) |
| 19:08.43 | HolySheepy | 2 points: X second(s)" and so on |
| 19:08.48 | HolySheepy | "right? |
| 19:09.01 | HolySheepy | hm |
| 19:09.04 | Keolah | That's not especially informative. ;) |
| 19:09.08 | g0urra | can't you just put in the seconds?? |
| 19:09.20 | HolySheepy | because you told me to put it like wowhead?! |
| 19:09.22 | HolySheepy | :p |
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| 19:09.49 | g0urra | yeah and wowhead says |
| 19:09.53 | g0urra | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.53 | g0urra | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.53 | g0urra | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.53 | g0urra | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.53 | g0urra | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.57 | HolySheepy | yeah |
| 19:10.02 | HolySheepy | skill description |
| 19:10.03 | HolySheepy | :p |
| 19:10.09 | Keolah | depending on rank. |
| 19:10.12 | g0urra | jesus |
| 19:10.13 | g0urra | right |
| 19:10.15 | HolySheepy | lol |
| 19:10.20 | HolySheepy | well whatever |
| 19:10.24 | HolySheepy | i'll just write for X seconds |
| 19:10.28 | HolySheepy | and put the rest in rank table |
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| 19:11.09 | Keolah | That'd be the most reasonable I think. Anyone really looking would realize the duration changes. :P |
| 19:11.25 | Ose | why are european servers "Server:Foo Europe" wjile guilds are "Guild:Blah (Foo EU)" |
| 19:11.33 | Ose | why the inconsistency? |
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| 19:13.13 | Kirkburn | Servers got moved second, I think |
| 19:13.28 | Kirkburn | And there's lots more guilds |
| 19:14.32 | g0urra | Server:Aggramar United States |
| 19:15.12 | Ose | couldn't we have a bot vhange them (and delete the redirect pages)? |
| 19:15.18 | Kirkburn | Also, EU =/= Europe :P |
| 19:15.21 | Ose | s/vhange/change/ |
| 19:15.41 | Kirkburn | Moving guild pages again is just ... ugh, god no |
| 19:16.16 | Keolah | Does it really matter all that much? |
| 19:17.11 | Keolah | I mean, I doubt anyone outside of a particular server cares about a specific guild anyway unless it's a really unusual one :P |
| 19:19.53 | Ose | consistency is good |
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| 19:22.32 | Ose | well, {{User server}} should be categorizing people correctly now |
| 19:22.59 | Ose | unless someone has named their category "Foo EU players" or something |
| 19:23.14 | Ose | (instead of "Foo Europe players") |
| 19:24.18 | Ose | and only if the namespace is User |
| 19:24.55 | Ose | also, could someone who knows tables and stuff better than me clean up http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Infobox_server ? |
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| 19:28.41 | Bagginsw | one thing I don't like about dark factions is that they didn't bother to give class categories for any of the characters it discusses :p... |
| 19:29.11 | Kraps | can i ask game-related questions here? |
| 19:29.29 | Bagginsw | Brann Bronzebeard has a writeup (yes he discusses himself) and there is no clue what class he is :p |
| 19:29.31 | Kirkburn | Sure, god knows if we can asnwer them though :P |
| 19:29.34 | Keolah | We were talking about craps earlier! :P |
| 19:29.35 | Bagginsw | lol |
| 19:29.43 | Kraps | lol |
| 19:29.47 | Keolah | Nonsense. |
| 19:29.49 | Keolah | We can answer anything! |
| 19:29.52 | Keolah | If you don't mind wrong answers. :) |
| 19:30.17 | Kraps | ok, what and how are "stances"? |
| 19:30.57 | Keolah | Things warriors get that affect how they fight? |
| 19:31.15 | Kraps | yeah |
| 19:31.23 | Kraps | how do i get more? |
| 19:31.35 | Bagginsw | btw, dark factions is set just before TBC. It confirms people are just starting to go into AQ at that point in time |
| 19:31.37 | Keolah | Quests at certain levels. |
| 19:31.41 | Bagginsw | to try to kill C'thun LOL |
| 19:32.02 | Bagginsw | Brann knows that Katrana Prestor is Onyxia |
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| 19:32.15 | Bagginsw | but for some reason he can't do anything about it :p |
| 19:32.29 | Kraps | how do i fish? i was going crazy earlier |
| 19:32.32 | Keolah | I think berserker stance is a quest at level 30, and defensive is 10? |
| 19:32.59 | Keolah | You train fishing at a fishing trainer, buy a fishing pole, equip it, then use the fishing skill next to a body of water. |
| 19:33.06 | Kraps | Keolah: i'm at 19, didn't see defensive |
| 19:33.17 | Keolah | It might be 20, I really don't remember. |
| 19:33.21 | Kraps | use the fishing skill? |
| 19:33.23 | Keolah | Been a long time for either of my warriors. |
| 19:33.34 | Keolah | Yeah, you get a fishing skill from training fishing, move it to a button bar or something and press that. |
| 19:33.40 | Bagginsw | at the point and time the book is set, Nefarian is still much alive |
| 19:33.53 | Bagginsw | as is the Dark Horde. |
| 19:33.56 | Keolah | Try starting out fishing in a newbie area, since the difficulty of fishing is roughly around the difficulty of the area based on thelevel of the mobs. |
| 19:33.58 | Kraps | hmm didn't notice any button |
| 19:33.59 | Keolah | (with some exceptions) |
| 19:34.10 | Keolah | it'll be in your general tab in the skills page. |
| 19:34.19 | Kraps | ah ok |
| 19:35.11 | Kraps | 1 more (fore now): where is the elven city? |
| 19:35.16 | Keolah | Then when you cast a line, you wait for the bobber to splash and move, and click on it like you'd loot a corpse. |
| 19:35.39 | Keolah | On an island northwest of Kalimdor. |
| 19:35.58 | Keolah | What race are you? |
| 19:36.06 | Kraps | human |
| 19:36.31 | Keolah | Yeah, if you wanna get there as a human, you'll need to cross the Wetlands to Menethil Harbor and take a boat to Auberdine. |
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| 19:36.55 | Keolah | That'll be on the northern dock there. |
| 19:36.59 | Kraps | human warrior, the most boring combination in WoW :p |
| 19:37.04 | Keolah | Ah, they're not so bad. ;p |
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| 19:37.20 | Keolah | I mean... you see more night elf hunters than human warriors! :P |
| 19:37.46 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, want. That. Book. |
| 19:37.56 | Bagginsw | its worth it :) |
| 19:38.17 | Bagginsw | I bought the pdf for my use here in Hawaii. But have the hardcover sent to my home. |
| 19:38.24 | Keolah | And judging by the LFG requests, nobody seems to want to play warriors, nor healers :P |
| 19:38.28 | Kraps | i'm having trouble just exploring without getting killed by "??"'s |
| 19:38.39 | Bagginsw | I really like the parts about the Earthen Ring |
| 19:38.55 | Bagginsw | it was kinda of confusing figuring out what it was from ingame quests alone :p |
| 19:39.03 | Keolah | Heh. Well, don't explore there then. ;) |
| 19:39.13 | Bagginsw | so ya elemental spirits are chaotic :) |
| 19:39.17 | Keolah | Like for instance, don't go north from Redridge unless you're at least level 50 ;) |
| 19:39.43 | Bagginsw | and destructive |
| 19:39.43 | Bagginsw | not evil mind you, but could destroy the world if not kept in check |
| 19:39.44 | Bagginsw | makes them very similar to regular elementals |
| 19:39.51 | Bagginsw | its unclear if they aren't one and the same however :) |
| 19:40.15 | Bagginsw | just a few like elemental lords deciding to side with the Old Gods. |
| 19:41.15 | Bagginsw | so ya we now know more about the goblins and second war :) |
| 19:41.31 | Bagginsw | turns out one of the trade princes or moguls or some such |
| 19:41.46 | Bagginsw | decided to side with the horde, assured that they would win |
| 19:42.21 | Bagginsw | so that he could get monopoly on the war profiteering |
| 19:42.57 | Kraps | oh, and i need a map showing me where forges are :P |
| 19:43.02 | Keolah | lol |
| 19:43.06 | Bagginsw | I didn't read it all but there is hints that he was selling goblins to the Horde as slaves |
| 19:43.08 | Keolah | There's a really big one in Ironforge! :P |
| 19:43.12 | Kraps | srsly |
| 19:43.18 | Kraps | yeah |
| 19:43.34 | Keolah | Most towns have one, except the ones you really wish did. ;p |
| 19:43.57 | Keolah | Like frickin' Astranaar. Damned pyrophobic elves. |
| 19:44.17 | Bagginsw | I'll add the dates established in the book to the Player's Guide timeline article |
| 19:44.21 | Keolah | And there's a forge in Darnassus... but no anvil. Go figure. |
| 19:44.22 | Kraps | theres one is my hometown ( :P) , goldshire |
| 19:44.27 | Bagginsw | since the book is supposed to be part of that series |
| 19:44.38 | Kraps | oh no |
| 19:44.47 | Bagginsw | its officially the "Indepedent Player's Guide" according to the introduction |
| 19:45.02 | Keolah | Sometimes you'll find one sitting out where you don't expect it, so keep your eyes open. Like I think there's one in Sentinel Hill near the mill. |
| 19:45.15 | Kraps | just realized that forge and anvil are separate |
| 19:45.20 | Keolah | Heh. Yep :P |
| 19:45.35 | Keolah | And draenei forges look really odd. |
| 19:46.04 | Kraps | I TRIED TO USE THAT ANVIL TO MAKE COPPER BARS |
| 19:46.12 | Kraps | headdesks |
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| 19:47.25 | Kaso | what frustrates me is how i can mine gold, yet only sell it to the vendor for a silver or whatever >.< |
| 19:47.36 | Keolah | Why would you sell it to a vendor? ;P |
| 19:48.09 | Kaso | well whatever, but i have gold? why cant i just use that as money! |
| 19:48.31 | Keolah | You're not authorized to mint currency! |
| 19:48.32 | Keolah | :) |
| 19:49.07 | Kaso | Im sure the goblins wouldn't ask too many questions |
| 19:49.37 | Keolah | And why the horde, alliance, and two different planets use the same money, anyway? ;p |
| 19:50.05 | Kraps | i used to have skinning and leatherworking, but switched to mining and blacksmithing. seems more satisfying |
| 19:50.13 | Keolah | There isn't even any gold on Outland! Why don't they use khorium coins or something? :p |
| 19:50.25 | Keolah | if you're a warrior, having leatherworking is pretty pointless. |
| 19:50.26 | Kaso | heh, thats a good point you have there Keolah |
| 19:50.47 | Kraps | why? |
| 19:50.53 | Keolah | You can wear mail and later plate. |
| 19:51.07 | Kraps | yeah |
| 19:51.13 | Keolah | You wouldn't _want_ to use any of the leather stuff you'd make. |
| 19:51.30 | Kraps | not everyone can wear mail? |
| 19:51.51 | Keolah | You generally want a crafting profession of things you can use yourself, since you'd get the benefit of the BoP items craftd from it. |
| 19:52.28 | Keolah | Now, skinning/mining or skinning/herbalism is good for making money if you're poor, too. Crafting professions can be expensive to raise at times. |
| 19:52.44 | Kraps | generally want a crafting profession of things he can sell :P |
| 19:52.57 | Keolah | You won't be making much money off things you can craft for many levels. |
| 19:53.17 | Keolah | In fact at the moment, with current auction house prices, if you mainly want money, take two gathering professions. |
| 19:53.36 | Keolah | Materials are going for insane prices, the items crafted with them not so much. |
| 19:53.50 | Kraps | how come? |
| 19:54.06 | Keolah | I have nooo clue. |
| 19:54.20 | Keolah | But low level herbs going for 10g a stack... ridiculous. |
| 19:54.27 | Kraps | :O |
| 19:54.53 | Keolah | Same on both servers I play regularly. |
| 19:55.26 | Keolah | Check the auction house on your server and see how much a stack of copper goes for, you'll see what I mean I think. |
| 19:59.47 | Bagginsw | so rumors are that Darkmoon fair is a front, :) |
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| 20:00.05 | Kaso | Oh Bagginsw ? |
| 20:00.14 | Bagginsw | a front for adventurers seeking ancient mysteries |
| 20:00.24 | Bagginsw | and that they may be spying |
| 20:00.24 | Kraps | Bagginsw: what book are you talking about? |
| 20:00.28 | Bagginsw | Dark Factions |
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| 20:00.55 | Bagginsw | they are neutral though, so whatever they are a front for doesn't appear to be for sinister purposes |
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| 20:06.21 | Keolah | Man. You know the graveyard is too far away when you die, start running in the general direction of your corpse, go downstairs and get something to drink, argue with grandmother, come back, and you're still not there yet ;p |
| 20:07.21 | Lukian | You know you've been afk in flight too long when you come back and find your character running into the side plane of the skybox |
| 20:07.24 | Lukian | :D |
| 20:07.28 | Keolah | hehe |
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| 20:09.26 | AU518987077 | hey all, quick question |
| 20:10.04 | AU518987077 | anyoen see anythign about a system emssage saying " you have entered to many instnacse recently. and whats the cool down on it |
| 20:10.16 | Lukian | 5/hr |
| 20:10.25 | AU518987077 | your kidding |
| 20:10.28 | Lukian | no |
| 20:10.30 | Ose | to avoid farming first bosses etc |
| 20:10.32 | Lukian | stop farming |
| 20:10.54 | Keolah | You generally wouldn't need to enter more than 5 instances in an hour if you weren't farming :P |
| 20:11.06 | AU518987077 | im nto afarmign im tryignt o get soemthgin specific from the visuc fallout |
| 20:11.15 | Lukian | ... |
| 20:11.19 | Ose | the staff? |
| 20:11.22 | Keolah | So... you're farming. ;p |
| 20:11.26 | Lukian | ^ |
| 20:11.30 | Lukian | WE HAVE A WINNER |
| 20:11.33 | AU518987077 | yes, hydrostaff |
| 20:11.46 | Kraps | lol |
| 20:12.09 | Ose | I remember it dropeed for my mage's group once... |
| 20:12.14 | Ose | hunter took it... |
| 20:12.16 | AU518987077 | is the cool down really 5 hours? |
| 20:12.28 | Ose | no 5 insyances pr. hour |
| 20:12.35 | AU518987077 | ok |
| 20:12.39 | Ose | s/insyances/instances/ |
| 20:12.47 | AU518987077 | when was thsi implamented? |
| 20:12.49 | AU518987077 | 2.4? |
| 20:12.57 | Ose | long time ago |
| 20:13.31 | AU518987077 | not when i did it for my hunter and mage and warlock and priest |
| 20:14.16 | Lukian | earlier than 1.8 iirc |
| 20:14.24 | Ose | or, when you entered the sixth time, it had gone one hour since the first reset? |
| 20:14.35 | Lukian | ^ |
| 20:14.46 | Kraps | srsly, how can you guys play more than one character? |
| 20:15.00 | Ose | One at a time? |
| 20:15.21 | Kraps | lol |
| 20:15.29 | subu | how can anyone NOT play more than one character? :) |
| 20:15.30 | Lukian | "The limit is 5 instance resets per hour. It was patched in around 1.5 or 1.6 or so to deter teleport hack farmers farming the princess in Mauradon and the chests there. No way around it." |
| 20:15.31 | AU518987077 | i have 5 level 70's and am owrkign on thsi hunter, shes 53 now |
| 20:15.36 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/Multiboxing ? |
| 20:15.52 | HolySheepy | kidney shot is offensive right= |
| 20:15.58 | AU518987077 | yes it is |
| 20:16.10 | AU518987077 | you dotn knwo how much a well places punch to the womb feels |
| 20:16.11 | HolySheepy | k ty |
| 20:16.16 | HolySheepy | xD |
| 20:16.35 | AU518987077 | ok thansk for the answers |
| 20:16.39 | AU518987077 | toodles |
| 20:16.56 | Kraps | i mean, it takes more than enough time and energy to play and level ONE character |
| 20:17.09 | Ose | question: when my page says that i'm in "Category:Moonglade Europe players", why don't I show on http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Moonglade_Europe_players ? |
| 20:17.14 | Keolah | I have two level 70s, three more 60+, and countless mid-levels. |
| 20:17.37 | Kraps | O_O |
| 20:17.42 | Lukian | three 70, one 68, one 57 |
| 20:18.03 | g0urra | Ose: some strange categorization thing |
| 20:18.14 | Keolah | Presently I'm working on my troll hunter, who is level 18. |
| 20:18.21 | Kraps | so you guys are playing years? |
| 20:18.28 | Ose | I have a 65 mage, 29 lock and 16 rogue :P |
| 20:18.38 | Lukian | ~263 played days (total) |
| 20:18.41 | Ose | but i'm currently gamecard-less |
| 20:18.44 | Lukian | so yeah, I guess that's years |
| 20:18.49 | g0urra | I have four level 70s, three more 60+, one level 28, and countless others |
| 20:18.49 | Keolah | I've no idea. |
| 20:19.00 | Keolah | I've only been playing since last summer ;p |
| 20:19.05 | g0urra | :| |
| 20:19.05 | Lukian | Keolah, grab RestFu if you use fubar |
| 20:19.11 | Lukian | it'll sum up your /played :) |
| 20:19.19 | Keolah | No point. |
| 20:19.19 | Kraps | liar :p |
| 20:19.23 | Keolah | I'm moving tomorrow anyway. |
| 20:19.39 | g0urra | I'm played 3 years+ |
| 20:19.43 | Ose | plus i'm an incredibly slow levler ( proof ---> http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:OseScreenies13.jpg ) |
| 20:19.45 | g0urra | s/I'm/I've/ |
| 20:20.19 | Kraps | you guys mod your UI's |
| 20:20.39 | g0urra | yes |
| 20:20.46 | Keolah | Actually, it only takes me a couple weeks real-time to level up a new char to level 70, if I'm actually playing them and not getting distracted with alts :p |
| 20:21.00 | Lukian | yeah same |
| 20:21.06 | g0urra | Keolah: same here, but replace alts with raids |
| 20:21.09 | Kraps | thats crazy |
| 20:21.14 | Ose | level up a new char to level 70 = alting..? |
| 20:21.24 | Keolah | You wind up memorizing where every quest is and the most optimal way to go about them ;p |
| 20:21.27 | Lukian | Well, my alts were oringally twinks |
| 20:21.43 | Kraps | you ever use the bathroom? :P |
| 20:21.51 | Lukian | tested out the different ranges, but they were quite fun to play in pve and they levelled too quickly :p |
| 20:21.57 | Lukian | :D |
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| 20:21.59 | Kraps | pc in bathroom i know |
| 20:21.59 | Keolah | hehe |
| 20:22.08 | Keolah | Yes, and I eat and sleep regular hours too :P |
| 20:22.10 | g0urra | I think s/he rebuilt the bathroom to a combined bedroom/livingroom |
| 20:22.26 | Ose | Kirkburn? |
| 20:22.33 | Kirkburn | hmm? |
| 20:22.41 | Keolah | Case in point, this troll hunter was level 13 yesterday, and is 18 now, and a lot of that time was spent running around forgetting to train swords and farming boar meat to raise cooking :P |
| 20:22.43 | Ose | there's something weird going on with some categories... |
| 20:22.56 | g0urra | or, Ose, it could just be slow categorizing |
| 20:22.57 | Ose | goes to get an example, hold on |
| 20:23.03 | g0urra | if you talk of {{user server}} |
| 20:23.14 | Ose | yez |
| 20:23.27 | Keolah | Total time played on this char is 17 hours, including the run to Teldrassil to tame an owl :P |
| 20:23.47 | Lukian | hunters are ezmode levelling |
| 20:23.48 | Lukian | :D |
| 20:23.54 | Keolah | Hunters are fun! :) |
| 20:23.57 | Ose | User:Ose says Cat:Moonglade Europe players, but i'm not on the cat page |
| 20:24.07 | Lukian | until you outgear your pet, and pull aggro off it with two autoshots :( |
| 20:24.35 | Keolah | I have a level 70 hunter who has no problem with pet aggro :p |
| 20:24.45 | Lukian | you suck then :o |
| 20:24.47 | Kraps | i bet with pets its quicker |
| 20:24.48 | Lukian | ^_^ |
| 20:25.01 | Keolah | I leveled up a mage from 17 to 21 yesterday too ;p |
| 20:25.04 | Keolah | Solo. |
| 20:25.06 | Lukian | yeah warlocks level quite fast too |
| 20:25.16 | Keolah | Which was... painful :p |
| 20:25.28 | Lukian | <- hasn't rolled squishies, yet |
| 20:25.31 | Lukian | spriest soon.. |
| 20:25.31 | Kirkburn | Ose, nothing strange, just caching |
| 20:25.37 | Ose | owkay |
| 20:25.43 | Kirkburn | Resaved both, you appear now |
| 20:26.13 | Kraps | Ose: bad spam! :p |
| 20:26.23 | Keolah | It's just that I do a lot of soloing, and hunters are great for soloing. |
| 20:26.35 | Kraps | (the screenshot) |
| 20:26.50 | Keolah | Also, I heart pets. I love getting unusual or hard to get pets. I love getting pets that AREN'T CATS :p |
| 20:26.59 | Kraps | lol |
| 20:27.12 | Lukian | Keolah, hehe |
| 20:27.26 | Kraps | wonders if he should start again with a hunter |
| 20:27.36 | Ose | Kraps: spam where? |
| 20:27.44 | Ose | oh right |
| 20:27.44 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:ProblemReports/9789 |
| 20:28.24 | Lukian | Kraps, what are you playing atm? |
| 20:28.25 | Bagginsw | rpg |
| 20:28.31 | Bagginsw | its in magic and mayhem |
| 20:28.34 | Keolah | "start a hunter" you mean? :P I mean, you don't need to delete your warrior to try another char. *snigger* |
| 20:28.41 | Ose | Kirkburn: how about making somebig flashy sign on the top of the problemreportspage explainging what it's for? |
| 20:28.44 | Keolah | Hunters can be good to play if you're having difficulty leveling, but warriors are much more in demand for instances and such. |
| 20:28.58 | Kraps | Lukian: human warrior |
| 20:29.04 | Bagginsw | of course not all warlocks :) |
| 20:29.07 | Bagginsw | just many of them |
| 20:29.16 | Bagginsw | its more the history behind Alliance warlocks |
| 20:29.33 | Kraps | oh btw, i suck at bg's :/ |
| 20:29.36 | Kirkburn | It's time for you to deal with a problem report, Baggins :) |
| 20:29.37 | Keolah | A solo hunter (or warlock) can pull off a lot of things that would _murder_ most classes when solo. |
| 20:29.45 | HolySheepy | is there a boilerplate for a "faction"? which includes population ammount etc |
| 20:30.04 | Kirkburn | (use the "Comments" link to explain why you closed it) |
| 20:30.08 | Keolah | For instance, I killed a level 17 elite today, at level 17.. without much trouble, either. |
| 20:30.18 | Bagginsw | ya ok which article is it referring to? |
| 20:30.18 | Lukian | Kraps, terrible choice unless you are planning on tanking ;) |
| 20:30.22 | Bagginsw | so I can add the citations :p |
| 20:30.49 | Lukian | Keolah, yeah I'm levelling up an http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/mobs/mob_arashethis.php as my dps pet :D |
| 20:31.00 | Keolah | But yeah, you wanna get a feel for the game, learn where things are, solo up a bit, play a hunter. If you want to do instances and such, you can bring out that warrior and start running them. |
| 20:31.16 | Kraps | i'm having a problem leveling right now |
| 20:31.17 | HolySheepy | mainly for boilerplating this article http://www.wowwiki.com/Bloodmar |
| 20:31.36 | Kraps | kinda stuck |
| 20:31.43 | Keolah | Right, I'd imagine. Warriors aren't the best for soloing as a newbie. |
| 20:31.44 | Lukian | dps warriors have no utility in end game instances, you'd be very lucky to get a group for the harder herocis :) |
| 20:32.01 | Lukian | er 70 instances :p |
| 20:32.13 | Lukian | in normal instances, anythign goes :D |
| 20:32.17 | Keolah | I have a fury warrior and a prot warrior... mainly I made the fury one for fun since I don't do much instancing and just group with my bf. |
| 20:32.30 | Lukian | awesome :) |
| 20:32.39 | Lukian | do you like dps then? :D |
| 20:32.43 | Keolah | But it's hard to beat a prot warrior for tanking, unless they suck. |
| 20:33.04 | Keolah | I also have a prot pally, several hunters, an assassin rogue, a feral druid... |
| 20:33.34 | Kraps | so i should start a hunter or warlock? |
| 20:33.46 | Lukian | I think a prot paladin has an interesting level of control as a prot warrior |
| 20:33.51 | Keolah | I'd suggest a hunter, myself, but that's personal preference. |
| 20:34.02 | Lukian | reverse taunt, blessing of protection |
| 20:34.23 | Keolah | Hunter pets tend to make better tanks than warlock pets when soloing. |
| 20:34.26 | Lukian | Kraps, level both to 20's, see what you enjoy and go battleground :D |
| 20:34.45 | Kraps | think paladins and druids are cool |
| 20:34.53 | Keolah | (As a note, if you intend for soloing as a hunter, spec for Beast Mastery) |
| 20:34.56 | Kraps | s/think/thinks |
| 20:35.14 | Lukian | paladins are a bitch to level, druids not :D |
| 20:35.29 | Kraps | Lukian: i'm at 19 |
| 20:35.35 | Keolah | I leveled up my paladin from 6 to 70 whilst grouping with my bf's mage. That wasn't a bitch to level ;) |
| 20:35.35 | Kraps | just |
| 20:35.54 | Lukian | Keolah, cheater :p |
| 20:35.59 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, it says on the problem report |
| 20:36.06 | Lukian | Keolah, do it again solo |
| 20:36.12 | Keolah | hehe |
| 20:36.20 | Lukian | my pally was my first char >< |
| 20:36.24 | Kraps | Lukian: i did 2 battlegrounds. not one kill :/ |
| 20:36.31 | Lukian | and ret was terrible in 1.0 - 1.3 days :p |
| 20:36.37 | Keolah | I don't do pvp, period. |
| 20:36.38 | Kraps | but many deaths |
| 20:36.42 | Lukian | Kraps, 19 bg's are full of twinks |
| 20:36.44 | Lukian | don't do them |
| 20:36.57 | Lukian | the next range is much more forgiving |
| 20:36.58 | Keolah | Unless, of course, you're a 19 twink. |
| 20:37.04 | Kraps | heh |
| 20:37.22 | Kraps | thing is, i'm a trial, so no trading |
| 20:37.36 | Lukian | buy it :p |
| 20:37.39 | Keolah | lol |
| 20:37.47 | Kraps | no shit :p |
| 20:37.54 | Keolah | You've gotten to 19 on a trial account? :p |
| 20:38.00 | Kraps | yeah |
| 20:38.09 | Lukian | yeah you can do it easily :p |
| 20:38.10 | Kraps | is that good? |
| 20:38.10 | Keolah | Man, I only got to 11 max :P |
| 20:38.12 | g0urra | COUNCIL DOWN OWEQUFHWEIKFYUGWEKIYFUGF |
| 20:38.14 | Lukian | but 20 is the level limit |
| 20:38.15 | Amberrock | you can get to 20 on a trial |
| 20:38.16 | Keolah | No, I'm just easily distracted. |
| 20:38.19 | Keolah | And wanted to try _everything_ :p |
| 20:38.20 | Lukian | so don't waste too much xp :p |
| 20:39.03 | Ose | Kirkburn: when will we have our upload logs back? |
| 20:39.16 | Kirkburn | Hopefully sometime this week |
| 20:39.22 | Kraps | dunno if i'll continue my warrior, too frustrating |
| 20:39.33 | Keolah | And when I started playing, I thought "soulbound" meant it stayed with you when you died... and kept wearing cloth items just because they were "soulbound" :p |
| 20:40.10 | Keolah | ... to be fair, another game i played had "soulbound" items that did work that way :P |
| 20:40.23 | Lukian | hehe :o |
| 20:40.31 | HolySheepy | hm |
| 20:40.35 | Lukian | which game? |
| 20:40.36 | HolySheepy | imho wowhead is missing quest-links |
| 20:40.46 | Keolah | Rogue Winds! :p |
| 20:40.49 | HolySheepy | like http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25771 should have a link to the related quest |
| 20:40.56 | Keolah | (you've never heard of it probably ;p) |
| 20:41.04 | Lukian | indeed :( |
| 20:41.14 | Keolah | And it's long dead. |
| 20:41.26 | Keolah | Shut down in around 2003. |
| 20:41.35 | Lukian | HolySheepy, that would probably have to be manually linked |
| 20:41.37 | Kraps | too low to get a really good weapon, enemies are murder |
| 20:41.42 | Lukian | HolySheepy, talk to an admin in #wowhead ;p |
| 20:42.02 | Keolah | kraps, primarily what you need to do is buy the game :p |
| 20:42.15 | Keolah | And I don't work for blizzard so I'm not peddling crack here ;) |
| 20:42.25 | Kraps | although 57-75 sword should work, no? |
| 20:42.41 | Kraps | 600+ armor |
| 20:43.00 | Keolah | Some classes are harder to solo than others, especially when you're inexperienced. |
| 20:43.48 | HolySheepy | * {{questlong|Alliance|4|Inoculation}} <- what are the 2 last params for? |
| 20:44.00 | Keolah | And there's no shame in doing lower level quests if you're having trouble with the ones at your level. |
| 20:44.04 | Kraps | will use the online upgrade thing |
| 20:44.07 | Lukian | Kraps, http://www.wowhead.com/?items=2&filter=maxrl=19;ub=1#0-2+1 |
| 20:44.25 | HolySheepy | oh |
| 20:44.27 | HolySheepy | level and name |
| 20:44.56 | g0urra | Illidan here we come :D |
| 20:45.26 | Kraps | Lukian: they are pretty much done |
| 20:45.28 | *** join/#wowwiki Corgan (n=Corgan@udp138899uds.hawaiiantel.net) |
| 20:46.36 | Kraps | Lukian: whats the list? |
| 20:46.38 | Lukian | Kraps, hmm? (as a side note, wow players generally refer to weapons by their "dps" statistic) |
| 20:46.49 | Lukian | Kraps, all weapons usable by a level 19 warrior |
| 20:47.00 | Lukian | top of the list are the better ones |
| 20:47.14 | Lukian | the "quest" ones will be easy to get, if you have someone helping |
| 20:47.26 | Lukian | and the drop ones need a 5 man group, or a high level player to help :) |
| 20:47.37 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, g0urra added the [citation needed] flag to http://www.wowwiki.com/Warlock :) |
| 20:47.46 | Bagginsw | sure |
| 20:47.53 | Bagginsw | I'm looking through the books |
| 20:47.59 | Kirkburn | kewl |
| 20:48.20 | Kirkburn | Btw, I think a new brazilian wow wiki is joining Wikia |
| 20:48.23 | Bagginsw | also what does the intro for warlocks say? |
| 20:48.30 | Bagginsw | ingame |
| 20:48.58 | Kirkburn | no idea |
| 20:49.00 | Kraps | i have alot of accumilated junk from quests that i cant get rid of |
| 20:49.06 | Kirkburn | Will look now |
| 20:49.38 | Lukian | Kraps, quest items from quest (chains) you've fully completed? |
| 20:49.44 | Lukian | Just destroy them if so :) |
| 20:49.53 | Kraps | no |
| 20:50.01 | MrUseful | (MMO Champion) Friend & Family Alpha Signup are now open - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=7691.0 |
| 20:50.08 | Kraps | quests im in middle of |
| 20:50.13 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, says nothing of interest |
| 20:50.16 | g0urra | lol signups. |
| 20:51.04 | foxlit | "you may not maintain a gaming fan or guild website." |
| 20:51.14 | Bagginsw | the choice selection screen used to be more interesting :p at least for paladins LOL |
| 20:51.22 | foxlit | Blizzard: all of our friends are loners. |
| 20:51.26 | Bagginsw | but they had to make it more generic when adding more paladin orders |
| 20:52.02 | Kraps | should i get BC too? |
| 20:52.11 | g0urra | https://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/expansion/images/expansion2-upgrade.jpg |
| 20:52.12 | Lukian | Kraps, no need until you hit level 58 |
| 20:52.19 | Lukian | unless of course the boxed set is cheaper |
| 20:52.22 | Kirkburn | foxlit, lol, it's anti-journalist protection |
| 20:52.30 | Kraps | why 58? |
| 20:52.30 | Lukian | and you are planning to play for a few months at least :) |
| 20:52.40 | Lukian | BC only adds outland content |
| 20:52.41 | foxlit | Kirkburn: that's the entry immediately preceeding that |
| 20:52.48 | foxlit | *cough*silvermoon |
| 20:52.50 | Bagginsw | âThe soul of a Warlock is far from non-existent. In fact, it is massive, easily two fold the, size, for lack of a better term, of a standard soul. But it is corrupted, twisted in a way that can both hinder and help it. Warlocks are among the most veteran of all warriors, as they fight a battle everyday, the battle between themselves and the Burning Legion, the price of which is the Warlockâs sanity, self, and very existence. Th |
| 20:52.50 | Bagginsw | is is often the reason for a Warlockâs surly manner; his body has become a ravaged battlefield.â |
| 20:52.59 | Bagginsw | I can't stand those made up quotes... |
| 20:53.04 | Lukian | which is only really accessible at 58 (although it makes a great transport hub, as you can hearth there, then portal to any major city) |
| 20:53.10 | Keolah | kraps - unless you want to play a draenei or blood elf at least. |
| 20:53.13 | Bagginsw | its like bad fanfic |
| 20:53.28 | Lukian | (You can have a friend or random summon you to Shattrath/Outland) |
| 20:53.34 | Kirkburn | foxlit, anti-non-official-journalists |
| 20:53.37 | Lukian | (regardless of your level) |
| 20:54.25 | Bagginsw | hmm I can't find it right now but I think its probably more accurate to say that warlocks were "once members of the Kirin Tor" :p |
| 20:54.40 | Bagginsw | that's to say that it could have been mages, wizards, or sorcerers :p |
| 20:55.01 | Bagginsw | there were no mages in the first edition of the game. |
| 20:55.17 | Bagginsw | and wizards and sorcerers were more or less folded into the mage class in the second edition |
| 20:55.54 | HolySheepy | hm i dont get why the db addons(like for thottbot) can't manage to decide if a player is searching for the quest item or not, and by that have a real quest-item droprate instead of a very-low-drop-rate because people kill the mobs without having the quest |
| 20:56.23 | Bagginsw | the majority of human warlocks we know about where once members of the Kirin Tor |
| 20:56.37 | Kraps | loves Elwynn Forest |
| 20:56.42 | Bagginsw | however, warlock and necromancy is frowned upon by the Kirin Tor |
| 20:56.45 | Bagginsw | forbidden magic |
| 20:57.11 | Bagginsw | so they would have had to have been mages, archmages, sorcerers, wizards, and the like only. |
| 20:57.55 | Kraps | "This region is an apparent paradise. If one enters it from the desolate south of Duskwood, itâs an assault on the senses: a sense of fear no longer clogs ones nose, the trees are lush and the people are friendly instead of terrified." |
| 20:58.08 | Kraps | zomglulz |
| 20:58.24 | HolySheepy | elwynn? |
| 20:58.26 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, sounds like the whole intro needs a rewrite then |
| 20:58.30 | Kraps | yeah |
| 20:58.31 | Bagginsw | ya |
| 20:59.05 | Kraps | i could barely step into Duskwood |
| 20:59.11 | Bagginsw | you couold change it to 'arcanists" :) |
| 20:59.16 | Bagginsw | save the time right now |
| 20:59.35 | Bagginsw | because warlocks are variant class to arcanists |
| 21:00.07 | MrUseful | (World of Raids) WotLK - Friend & Family Alpha Phase has officialy started - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-13395-1.html |
| 21:00.10 | Bagginsw | arcanist will train in one of the three fields of study |
| 21:00.21 | Bagginsw | or four now actually |
| 21:00.37 | Bagginsw | inscriber, necromancer, warlock, mage |
| 21:00.49 | Kirkburn | not a bad idea |
| 21:01.01 | Kraps | i didn't know what a "gryphon master" was until a lvl 15 quest |
| 21:02.19 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, I've switched the text and removed the fake quote |
| 21:02.34 | Bagginsw | ya I think we should do away with fake quotes on all pages :p |
| 21:02.54 | Lukian | Kraps, oh dear :) |
| 21:03.01 | Kraps | i know |
| 21:03.20 | Lukian | that said, the first time you'd see one other than in city would be about level 12 or maybe 13 |
| 21:04.57 | Kraps | funny thing is, that i had already gotten flight routes, i just didn't know what they were XD |
| 21:05.39 | *** join/#wowwiki soufron (n=soufron@pha75-4-81-56-60-119.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:05.43 | Lukian | o.O |
| 21:05.56 | Kraps | lol |
| 21:10.13 | Kraps | see, i can take on two meleeing murlocs any day, but too many at a time or the spellcasting ones, dead http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Coast_Isn%27t_Clear |
| 21:10.39 | Kirkburn | Ugh, oracles |
| 21:10.53 | Kraps | so i think i need a pet |
| 21:11.01 | Kraps | Kirkburn: yeah |
| 21:12.19 | Keolah | kraps - isn't there a quest in Westfall that tells you all about them? |
| 21:12.32 | Kraps | :? |
| 21:12.35 | Keolah | flight paths that is. |
| 21:12.54 | Keolah | The second newbie zone generally has a quest for "Go fly here, talk to somebody, and fly back" to introduce you to flight paths. |
| 21:13.31 | Kraps | yeah, at the one in Westfall i figured it out |
| 21:14.36 | *** join/#wowwiki Bagginswww (n=baggins@cpe-66-91-123-91.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 21:16.23 | Keolah | Well, that's what their purpose is. ;) I mean, it's not like there's an fp in goldshire or anything... |
| 21:16.38 | Kraps | right |
| 21:17.49 | Kraps | the "Go fly here, talk to somebody, and fly back" one is in the Redridge Mountains. the quests there are killing me |
| 21:18.10 | Amberrock | you've got many quests of that sort |
| 21:18.19 | Amberrock | but the introductionary one IS the westfall one though |
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| 21:19.47 | Kirkburn | I love those quests :P |
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| 21:20.04 | MrUseful | (World of Raids) WotLK - Friend & Family Alpha Phase has officially started - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-13395-1.html |
| 21:20.24 | Amberrock | they're easy money most of the times |
| 21:20.54 | Kraps | if you're a 30+... |
| 21:24.10 | Bagginswww | what's funny is that glib never once shows up in the RPG LOL |
| 21:24.11 | Amberrock | for any level |
| 21:24.27 | Amberrock | glib? |
| 21:24.34 | Bagginswww | Brann's "monkey" |
| 21:24.45 | Keolah | kraps - flying someplace for a single quest is usually a waste of time. |
| 21:24.48 | Bagginswww | He never speaks of Glib once. |
| 21:24.59 | Bagginswww | and the battles against C'thun have already begun |
| 21:25.22 | Bagginswww | He doesn't speak of Atiesh either I don't think |
| 21:25.29 | g0urra | you mean Glibb then |
| 21:25.32 | Keolah | I like to combine the Lakeshire "go here and come back" quest with the defias brotherhood quests that send you to westfall, stormwind, and lakeshire anyway. |
| 21:25.42 | Bagginswww | or that he's been AQ himself |
| 21:27.24 | Bagginswww | but ya we are going to have to move sections of Brann's article around again :p |
| 21:29.22 | Bagginswww | Few researchers know anything about the Old |
| 21:29.22 | Bagginswww | Gods and their mad worshipers until CâThun made |
| 21:29.22 | Bagginswww | its presence felt in AhnâQiraj, practically no one on |
| 21:29.22 | Bagginswww | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.27 | Bagginswww | bah :p |
| 21:29.34 | Bagginswww | tried to remove the spaces didn't work |
| 21:31.17 | g0urra | "I'm afraid that he'll be powerless without his monkey. " lol |
| 21:31.28 | Kraps | whats a "puller"? |
| 21:31.35 | g0urra | I mean "If you ever find a way into Ahn'Qiraj, keep an eye out for ol' Brann. I'm afraid that he'll be powerless without his monkey. " |
| 21:32.57 | Kraps | bsh, can't have a human hunter :( |
| 21:33.02 | Amberrock | Kraps: the one who attacks the mob first |
| 21:33.22 | Bagginswww | xbut ya gourra |
| 21:33.36 | Bagginswww | we can assume glib issue occurs before Brann wrote his notes for Dark Factions |
| 21:33.40 | Bagginswww | *Glibb |
| 21:34.01 | Bagginswww | He recently woke completely and physically returned to Azeroth. He now lairs in the ruins of AhnâQiraj, and packs of brave heroes have already begun to form and venture into the ruins. Perhaps they can destroy the evil god before he emerges to devastate Azeroth |
| 21:34.16 | Bagginswww | because Dark Factions confirms the gate has opened |
| 21:34.26 | Bagginswww | whereas the glib issue was him trying to find a way in |
| 21:35.00 | Bagginswww | He never actually admits to having ever seen inside as far as I know |
| 21:35.25 | Bagginswww | even in Horde Player's Guide he discusses not seeing past the wall |
| 21:35.35 | Bagginswww | although he hints at fighting Silithid |
| 21:35.36 | Bagginswww | in the area |
| 21:36.30 | Keolah | kraps - dwarf or night elf if you're wanting to play alliance. Though I'd really recommend playing horde sometime just to see how the other side lives, too. ;) |
| 21:36.57 | Keolah | I like them both... |
| 21:37.22 | Kraps | what, factions or races? |
| 21:38.11 | Keolah | Factions. ;p |
| 21:38.27 | Amberrock | Both have got their nice touches |
| 21:38.35 | Keolah | I only have one dwarf, since most of my chars are female and dwarf females are scary. |
| 21:39.02 | g0urra | I don't have any female characters. |
| 21:39.02 | Amberrock | dwarf females are the only non-ho alliance race >_> |
| 21:39.02 | Kraps | lol |
| 21:39.02 | g0urra | Except bank alts. |
| 21:39.20 | Amberrock | I got both male and female chars |
| 21:40.24 | Bagginswww | strange time |
| 21:40.24 | Bagginswww | anomaly that surfaced during the War of the Ancients |
| 21:40.24 | Bagginswww | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.35 | Bagginswww | hmm reference to the trilogy eh? |
| 21:40.42 | g0urra | most likely |
| 21:40.44 | Keolah | I think I have... three male chars. |
| 21:40.49 | Bagginswww | interesting that he would even know about that :) |
| 21:40.54 | Keolah | And one, being a clothie, is of questionable masculinity :p |
| 21:41.00 | Bagginswww | man the guy's omniscient at times |
| 21:41.04 | Kraps | # The advice, "Do not take crafting professions until you are over level 40." is sound; at that level you can harvest many of the materials for yourself. |
| 21:41.06 | Kraps | # None of the crafting professions offers profit margins at low levels that exceeds the profit from selling the raw materials (ore, herbs, and skins). |
| 21:41.08 | Kraps | # Instead, in fact, often you lose value by crafting goods, the raw materials are worth more than the product. |
| 21:41.16 | Kraps | hmph |
| 21:41.16 | Bagginswww | like how he now knows Katana Prestor's identity |
| 21:41.25 | Bagginswww | and she's still in charge :p |
| 21:42.44 | Keolah | I wouldn't necessarily recommend not taking crafting professions at low levels, but unless you already have a high-level alt and plenty of money, you'll probably want two gathering professions instead. |
| 21:43.07 | g0urra | searches his chatlogs for "10G MAGEROYAL STACKS" |
| 21:43.21 | Keolah | Yeah. ;p |
| 21:43.32 | Keolah | And briarthorn for about the same. |
| 21:43.36 | Keolah | Or more. |
| 21:43.52 | Amberrock | AH + mining/herbalism = nice income for a young adventurer |
| 21:44.02 | Bagginswww | so uh should I update cho'gall to "presumed dead" as its described in DF? |
| 21:44.09 | Keolah | I'd personally recommend mining/skinning or herbalism/skinning... just to avoid having to constantly switch tracking :p |
| 21:44.13 | g0urra | yes Bagginswww |
| 21:44.25 | Keolah | And leather does sell well too. |
| 21:44.56 | Kraps | AH? |
| 21:45.05 | g0urra | auction house |
| 21:46.21 | Keolah | checks AH real quick... yep, all full stacks of mageroyal that are up are up for 9-11g. |
| 21:46.52 | g0urra | primal life then? |
| 21:47.06 | Kraps | so hunter + mining/skinning = win? :P |
| 21:47.16 | Kraps | for a newb |
| 21:47.18 | Keolah | Primal life is 20g each... |
| 21:47.23 | Amberrock | sounds like a great combination |
| 21:47.30 | g0urra | :( 25g+ here |
| 21:47.33 | Keolah | hunter + mining/skinning = you'll spend most of your early money buying bags just to carry ita ll... but that's okay. |
| 21:48.36 | Kraps | oh yeah, what with the discrepancy between 6 slot and 8 slot bags? |
| 21:48.37 | Keolah | You can usually get netherweave bags for 6g-ish, and they're a good investment once you have the cash from selling copper for stupid amounts :P |
| 21:48.46 | Keolah | Discrepancy? |
| 21:48.46 | Kraps | 6 = 2s |
| 21:48.53 | Kraps | 8 = 22s |
| 21:48.58 | Kraps | srsly |
| 21:49.00 | Keolah | Bigger bags = more money. Generally exponentially. |
| 21:49.17 | Adys | Anyone feeling useful? |
| 21:49.21 | Keolah | Define "useful". |
| 21:49.25 | Kraps | thats what i thought, but still |
| 21:49.40 | Adys | I need the screenshot of an item tooltip when being hovered at a vendor (sells for ...) |
| 21:49.48 | Adys | one being sold, and one being bought |
| 21:50.00 | Keolah | But netherweave are actually a good deal if they're at 6g, since they're 16-slotters. |
| 21:50.32 | Keolah | Mageweave and runecloth, at 12 and 14 slots, might be 3 or 4 gold each or so. |
| 21:51.11 | Keolah | And if you can sell a stack of copper ore for 2g or so (not that tough with current prices), you'll be able to afford them pretty easily. |
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| 21:54.12 | Amberrock | plus, if you play horde there are two 4-slot bags available for free in the blood elf area |
| 21:54.27 | Amberrock | just finish some simple quests |
| 21:56.17 | Keolah | The draenei area has a free 4-slotter too. But he doesn't have BC. |
| 21:59.10 | Keolah | And there's also one in Westfall. But yeah, not really long-term bags. I still say you should go straight for the netherweave ones once you can afford them, as you won't be seriously disadvantaged even using them at 70 and they're pretty cheap. |
| 22:00.00 | Keolah | Compared to imbued netherweave which might be like 40+g:P |
| 22:00.56 | Kraps | never heard of netherweave |
| 22:02.01 | Keolah | Well, yeah, that's outland stuff, you won't actually see any netherweave until level 58+ ;) |
| 22:02.09 | Keolah | But you can still buy it and use it. |
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| 22:31.22 | Kirkburn | kd3, Blizz have emailed a reminder about the NDA, good thing we've only had one image so far |
| 22:32.51 | Fisker- | giev copy |
| 22:32.56 | g0urra | ^ |
| 22:33.20 | Fisker- | btw i didn't sign no stinking nda! |
| 22:33.23 | Arcanedeath | Do you guys completly delete it or is it still in the history? |
| 22:33.41 | Kirkburn | Probably admin accessible |
| 22:33.43 | Arcanedeath | But WoWWiki wants to have a link on the website :P |
| 22:33.46 | Kirkburn | Only a general notice, nothing specific, Fisker- |
| 22:34.08 | Kirkburn | It's more than just a link on the website :) |
| 22:34.39 | Kirkburn | Anyways, I'm off to bed |
| 22:34.44 | Kirkburn | Have a good evening, all |
| 22:34.47 | Arcanedeath | bye |
| 22:37.39 | Kraps | NDA? |
| 22:37.47 | Adys | non disclosure agreement |
| 22:37.50 | Adys | ~nda |
| 22:37.51 | infobot | I'm not allowed to tell you |
| 22:37.55 | Adys | ~wikipedia nda |
| 22:38.28 | Kraps | lol |
| 22:38.38 | Kraps | is a wikipedian |
| 22:39.05 | Kraps | ~wikipedia Non-disclosure agreement |
| 22:40.39 | Arcanedeath | ~wikipedia I leik mudkips |
| 22:40.45 | Kraps | Legolas - Wrong universe. Too unoriginal. |
| 22:40.50 | Kraps | snortlol |
| 22:40.54 | Arcanedeath | ~wikipedia hello%00 |
| 22:41.07 | Arcanedeath | nice... |
| 22:41.15 | Arcanedeath | thats pretty well coded |
| 22:43.16 | g0urra | ~wikipedia mudkips |
| 22:44.18 | Arcanedeath | ~wikipedia gourra |
| 22:44.35 | g0urra | ~wikipedia baldibar |
| 22:44.47 | g0urra | meh okay |
| 22:45.01 | Arcanedeath | ~wikipedia lol |
| 22:46.01 | Adys | spammers :/ |
| 22:46.58 | Arcanedeath | ~wikipedia spam |
| 22:47.06 | Kraps | http://www.rinkworks.com/namegen/ this should be linked here http://www.wowwiki.com/Newbie_Guide/Character_Creation#Name |
| 22:48.06 | Kraps | see ya |
| 22:50.32 | MrUseful | (World of Raids) Daily Blue, TR stats, The9 & Earthquake Mourning for China - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-13453-1.html |
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| 23:08.18 | Bagginswww | well I've modified brann article |
| 23:08.33 | Bagginswww | I've tried to reinsert WoW material where it should logically fit |
| 23:08.51 | Bagginswww | and moved some of the factoids to the notes section |
| 23:09.04 | Bagginswww | so that there is a consistent flow to the material |
| 23:09.33 | sacarasc_ | did Doomwalker get easier? |
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| 23:23.11 | soufron | hello |
| 23:23.52 | g0urra | hi |
| 23:24.23 | Arcanedeath | hey |
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