| 00:00.06 | Sky2042 | but what do I know? |
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| 00:25.31 | g0urra | Sky2042: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Neutral_Mounts needs some loving |
| 00:26.37 | Sky2042 | ugh, i still need to fix that. |
| 00:26.41 | Sky2042 | sec. |
| 00:27.12 | Kaso | Why do i get really randomly wrong tooltips on that |
| 00:27.49 | Sky2042 | Kaso: dunno. |
| 00:28.30 | Kaso | Riding turtle gives me Reins of the Swift Spectral Tiger,Black Qiraji Battle Tank gives me riding turtle |
| 00:28.32 | Kaso | its all odd |
| 00:33.01 | winkiller | g0urra: the guy in org was mannoroth, just added it ot the Valley of Wisdom page.. the rogue's damn question nagged me |
| 00:35.23 | g0urra | lol |
| 00:43.06 | g0urra | gnight |
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| 01:02.19 | Mikk | hai! |
| 01:02.25 | Charitwo | hello |
| 01:02.25 | infobot | hola |
| 01:02.31 | Mikk | i've got a discussion going with sky2042 |
| 01:03.48 | Mikk | regarding whether or not there should be a /najentus redirect |
| 01:03.50 | Sky2042 | did? o_o |
| 01:06.18 | Mikk | i'm arguing that there should be one to help visitors |
| 01:06.27 | Mikk | he's arguing that there shouldnt be one so visitors learn to type |
| 01:07.36 | Mikk | i'm thinking that it isn't wowwiki's job to teach visitors how to type the hard way |
| 01:07.48 | Mikk | nor make them believe that there is no article on naj'entus |
| 01:08.37 | Sky2042 | Mikk: btw, if they somehow come to that article, and it's a deleted with "Content was "#redirect [[Naj'entus]]", that reason will show up on the page. |
| 01:08.40 | Mikk | we've been using redirects for common misspellings since day 1... i don't see why naj'entus needs to be different |
| 01:08.48 | Sky2042 | ie, they can still get to where they want to go. |
| 01:09.03 | Mikk | erm |
| 01:09.10 | Mikk | deleted articles dont show for regular users |
| 01:09.17 | Mikk | that's the purpose of deleted |
| 01:09.35 | Sky2042 | Mikk: no, there's a reason that shows up that says "this article was previously deleted, and this was the admin's reason" |
| 01:09.45 | Sky2042 | s/reason/page (in first use) |
| 01:09.55 | Kaso | I believe there should redirects for misspelllings, what possible negative consequences could there be for having one other than some elitist "they should spell right goddamnit" type argument |
| 01:10.09 | Kaso | its not like its going to kill the server |
| 01:10.20 | Sky2042 | Kaso: it's not an issue of killing the server. :/ |
| 01:10.40 | Kaso | i know it isnt, but i cant see any real argument for not having them. |
| 01:10.43 | Sky2042 | Mikk: if that didn't show up for you, than that's because it was deleted before the user merge, which wiped all the user logs. |
| 01:11.32 | Mikk | i mean.. we even have a category of common misspellings |
| 01:11.51 | Sky2042 | and we shouldn't. |
| 01:12.05 | Kaso | Why? what are the cons for having one? |
| 01:12.12 | Sky2042 | what are the pros? |
| 01:12.22 | Sky2042 | the only pro is that people can be lazy. |
| 01:12.25 | Sky2042 | oh, wait. |
| 01:12.25 | Kaso | pros: users who cant spell as well can find articles easier |
| 01:12.58 | Sky2042 | and if they're having issues spelling it, they should be able to get to the article by using a proper search, rather than changing the name in the address bar |
| 01:13.00 | Kaso | We should remove the search function too, that just makes people lazy in finding articles |
| 01:13.10 | Sky2042 | LOL |
| 01:13.25 | Kaso | stopping people being lazy is not a good enough reason imo |
| 01:13.52 | Sky2042 | but neither is "let them be lazy" |
| 01:14.25 | Mikk | why would they be able to find the typoed name via search if all our editors are elitist jerks and refuse to even mention the typoed version? |
| 01:14.32 | Kaso | Sure it is, one of the first rules of interface design is to let your users get what they seek with the least number of interactions as possible. |
| 01:14.51 | Sky2042 | Mikk: "naj" and or "entus" |
| 01:15.09 | Mikk | .... |
| 01:15.19 | Mikk | that implies that they know where the ' is |
| 01:15.23 | Mikk | which e.g. i didn't |
| 01:15.30 | Mikk | now, i'm a fairly literate type of guy |
| 01:15.37 | Sky2042 | Mikk: and now you've learned something. |
| 01:15.39 | Sky2042 | ;P |
| 01:15.53 | Mikk | i would have learned something by watching the name that i got redirected to too |
| 01:15.59 | Sky2042 | Kaso: that shouldn't prevent the wiki from being easily maintainable. |
| 01:16.07 | Mikk | "one of the first rules of interface design is to let your users get what they seek with the least number of interactions as possible." |
| 01:16.10 | Mikk | accessibility > elitism |
| 01:16.13 | Sky2042 | Mikk: i doubt it, as you just said you've done the fight dozens of time. |
| 01:16.16 | Sky2042 | times* |
| 01:16.20 | Mikk | yeah well |
| 01:16.25 | Mikk | i'll doubtlessly forget it next week again |
| 01:16.29 | Mikk | i know there's a ' somewhere in there |
| 01:16.34 | Mikk | i cannot remember where for the life of em |
| 01:16.39 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 01:16.40 | Mikk | so i could go na'jentus -> nope |
| 01:16.45 | Mikk | najen'tus -> nope |
| 01:16.49 | Sky2042 | that sounds like a personal issue |
| 01:16.50 | Mikk | naje'ntus -> nope |
| 01:17.07 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Search?search=na%27jentus&go=1 |
| 01:17.10 | Kaso | Case point ^ |
| 01:18.35 | Kaso | I do agree that the current redirect system isnt the best way to do this, but its what we have at the moment and user experence is a prioirty imo |
| 01:19.03 | Sky2042 | but so is maintainability; do you want to hunt down the misspellings? |
| 01:19.24 | Kaso | What Links Here: ? |
| 01:19.41 | Sky2042 | yes, but that makes /my/ job harder. |
| 01:20.47 | Kaso | Is there a VP topic on this? it feels like perhaps a wider concensus should be attempted |
| 01:22.14 | Sky2042 | no, there isn't. i pmed mikk as he was wondering about it in an undeletion summary |
| 01:22.55 | Sky2042 | then he brought it here. |
| 01:23.45 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Misspellings |
| 01:24.01 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:List_of_common_misspellings |
| 01:24.29 | Sky2042 | Mikk: and? your examples only show that that is how it /has/ worked, not how it can / will work. |
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| 02:40.49 | Charitwo | wtf |
| 02:40.53 | Charitwo | :o |
| 02:41.46 | Charitwo | Kirkburn is staff now? |
| 02:43.32 | Sky2042 | Charitwo: ? |
| 02:44.19 | Charitwo | Sky2042: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special%3AListusers&username=Kirkburn&group=&limit=1 |
| 02:44.35 | Sky2042 | :O |
| 02:44.40 | Sky2042 | check smashwiki |
| 02:45.14 | Charitwo | what about it? |
| 02:46.34 | Charitwo | Sky2042: poek |
| 02:46.44 | Sky2042 | Charitwo: check to see if he's also under the staff group there also |
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| 02:47.03 | Kaso | He's on staff with wiki gaming is he not? |
| 02:47.08 | Kaso | wikia |
| 02:47.09 | Charitwo | Sky2042: i dont need to, i just used wowwiki as an example so you didnt have to check another site |
| 02:47.16 | Charitwo | Kaso: he was helper |
| 02:47.17 | Kaso | and has been for a while |
| 02:47.18 | Sky2042 | check anway |
| 02:47.21 | Kaso | oh i see |
| 02:47.21 | Sky2042 | Kaso: Helper. |
| 02:47.22 | Kaso | hmm |
| 02:47.27 | Kaso | i do not know |
| 02:47.28 | Sky2042 | Ie, unpaid intern i believe |
| 02:47.54 | Charitwo | Sky2042: i dont need to check something i already know |
| 02:48.01 | Charitwo | :P |
| 02:48.06 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 02:48.11 | Sky2042 | sighs at Charitwo. |
| 02:48.15 | Charitwo | His staff flag is global |
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| 03:41.35 | Mikk | ihnj, ijlts "global flagpoles" |
| 03:52.24 | Bagginswww | I hope that Dark Factions gives Abbendis a first name :p |
| 03:52.35 | Bagginswww | and her father :p |
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| 09:06.06 | g0urra | slap Ose |
| 09:06.18 | Ose | slaps g0urra |
| 09:06.23 | g0urra | http://armory.wow-europe.com/search.xml?searchQuery=pvp%20crew&searchType=all#search.xml?searchType=all&searchQuery=pvp+crew&selectedTab=guilds&p=1&sf=relevance&sd=a |
| 09:06.31 | Lelen | b0ring |
| 09:07.25 | Ose | http://armory.wow-europe.com/guild-info.xml?r=Dentarg&n=PvP+Crew&p=1 |
| 09:07.34 | g0urra | If you've come here for entertainment then you're at the wrong place |
| 09:07.43 | g0urra | yup, EU Ose |
| 09:07.53 | Ose | infobot, entertain Lelen |
| 09:07.54 | infobot | ACTION shows Lelen a real live elephant collection while scuba diving in 3d |
| 09:08.06 | Lelen | oO |
| 09:16.23 | Kirkburn | Hah, I see there was a fun conversation abut me earlier :p |
| 09:16.41 | Fisker- | slaps Kirkburn around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:16.49 | Corgan | Adys |
| 09:18.37 | Fisker- | Corgan |
| 09:18.42 | Kirkburn | Mikk, fwiw, I don't have a problem with misspelling redirects, so long as they're reasonable |
| 09:18.43 | Corgan | Fisker- |
| 09:18.47 | Corgan | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1211100914213.jpg |
| 09:18.47 | Fisker- | hey |
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| 09:18.48 | Corgan | what? |
| 09:19.14 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 09:19.24 | Lelen | slaps Fisker- with a big red brick |
| 09:19.39 | Fisker- | no u |
| 09:19.45 | Kirkburn | Nice cartoon - I can relate :) |
| 09:22.26 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Fiery_Festival_Brew&diff=1369497&oldid=1296258 |
| 09:22.31 | g0urra | stupid Blizzard nerfing fun |
| 09:25.42 | Lelen | flamethrower... -.- |
| 09:27.08 | Corgan | :< |
| 09:28.59 | Adys | Corgan, yes |
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| 11:54.01 | soufron | hello |
| 11:58.01 | g0urra | hello |
| 12:14.08 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Editcount/Adys uhh |
| 12:14.28 | Adys | wikia's problem |
| 12:14.59 | g0urra | heh |
| 12:39.32 | Mikk | zomg, i'm almost in the 10k club |
| 12:39.59 | pcj | fail |
| 12:41.05 | Adys | mikk <3 |
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| 13:13.54 | foxlit | <base> breaks anchor links :( |
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| 14:41.25 | Keolah | I dreamed of John Cleese dressed up as the Queen of England. |
| 14:43.09 | Kaso | Surely that must have happened at one point in the past. |
| 14:43.41 | Ose | yeah, propably |
| 14:43.54 | Keolah | Snicker. |
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| 14:59.39 | MetalColossus | Hi |
| 14:59.39 | infobot | hey |
| 15:00.02 | g0urra | Hi |
| 15:00.11 | g0urra | ~meh |
| 15:00.12 | infobot | meh int. /meh/ [The Simpsons] An interjection expressing apathy |
| 15:01.16 | g0urra | ~ose |
| 15:01.17 | infobot | it has been said that ose is the new kid on the block |
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| 15:19.19 | Ose | what now? |
| 15:28.22 | Ose | Kirkburn, theres something wrong with my edit-screen |
| 15:28.32 | Kirkburn | how so? |
| 15:29.36 | Ose | the bold and italics buttons are just text saying "bold text|italic text" |
| 15:30.54 | Ose | also, could anyone come up with a clever way to collapse the battlegroups on http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Infobox_server ? |
| 15:33.06 | Kirkburn | Yeah, the bold/italic images seem to frequently break |
| 15:33.09 | Kirkburn | Reload fixes |
| 15:33.16 | Ose | any thoughts on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Server_project#Autosortable_tables.3F ? |
| 15:33.17 | Kirkburn | I'll see about bringing it up |
| 15:34.00 | Kirkburn | As for sorting, not really a good idea |
| 15:34.20 | Ose | load? |
| 15:34.27 | Kirkburn | Best not to rely on JS for something to look as intended |
| 15:34.48 | Kirkburn | I could put that better |
| 15:35.43 | Kirkburn | It's not really a load issue, but more an overcomplication thing |
| 15:36.13 | Kirkburn | Then again, the "sortable" code may already allow that |
| 15:37.22 | Kirkburn | Help page is on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Sorting |
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| 17:04.40 | Ose | Kirkburn? |
| 17:04.46 | Kirkburn | sup? |
| 17:05.19 | Charitwo | Kirkburn: you're staff now? |
| 17:05.29 | Ose | on http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki:Server_project/Guild/Entry&action=edit : can I somehow make the <h5> not break lines? |
| 17:05.39 | Ose | a div or something? |
| 17:05.48 | Kirkburn | Charitwo, no comment :P |
| 17:06.07 | Kirkburn | In truth, no, I am not staff. I'm pseudo staff. |
| 17:06.19 | Kalroth | Kirkburn is a staffer, neener neener |
| 17:06.23 | Kirkburn | I'm in a quantum state where I have not yet coaleced into a single form |
| 17:06.24 | Charitwo | oh i was just curious. still wondering if you're still Gaming, or otherwise? |
| 17:06.39 | Kirkburn | I have transcended mere "gaming" :P |
| 17:06.40 | Kalroth | Kirk never leveled beyond 22! |
| 17:06.47 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 17:07.00 | Kirkburn | Actually, I'm still gaming, but my projects are often outside the area |
| 17:07.19 | Kirkburn | (e.g. help.wikia, monaco) |
| 17:07.23 | Ose | [19:05]<Ose>on http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki:Server_project/Guild/Entry&action=edit : can I somehow make the <h5> not break lines? |
| 17:07.30 | Ose | yes no? |
| 17:07.47 | Kirkburn | You'll need to place the rest inside the h5 |
| 17:07.58 | Kirkburn | Actually, hmm |
| 17:08.01 | Kirkburn | What is it for? |
| 17:08.40 | Kirkburn | I think floats may help |
| 17:08.52 | Ose | the guilds on http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Khadgar_US/Progress links to their entries on guild list |
| 17:09.38 | Kirkburn | This is what I used on the main page: |
| 17:09.39 | Kirkburn | <h3 class="mpcontentbox-header">Warcraft news <span style="font-size:80%;">'''(news ''you'' can [{{fullurl:Portal:Main/User_News|action=edit}} edit!])'''</span></h3> |
| 17:09.49 | Kirkburn | However, you probably don't quite want that |
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| 17:10.36 | Kirkburn | For the search link on the old main page I had: |
| 17:10.38 | Kirkburn | <h3 style="font-size:125%; line-height:90%; float:left;">'''Selected WoW article index'''</h3> |
| 17:10.44 | Kirkburn | <span style="position:relative; top:-0.1em; right:0em; float:right; line-height:90%;"><imagelink>Icon-search-22x22.png|Special:Search</imagelink> '''[[Special:Search|Search]]'''</span> |
| 17:10.55 | Ose | eh? |
| 17:10.59 | Kirkburn | i.e. I used positioning to make the search link stay on the same line |
| 17:11.45 | Kirkburn | You could try just using float:right on the non h5 stuff |
| 17:12.19 | Ose | ok, thanks |
| 17:13.06 | Kirkburn | It's time for a random interesting page from help.wikia! http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Examples_of_customized_Monaco_skins |
| 17:18.35 | Ose | is randomly interested! |
| 17:23.38 | foxlit | "as the colours are not blinding after a session in a dark dungeon" |
| 17:23.43 | foxlit | ... |
| 17:23.45 | foxlit | ! |
| 17:24.37 | foxlit | The extension of that is clearly "Useful for those who dwell in basements, unfamiliar and allergic to light of all sorts" |
| 17:26.23 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 17:26.54 | foxlit | But seriously, when have you last been in a dark dungeon? |
| 17:27.11 | foxlit | Even BT isn't sufficiently dark, really |
| 17:27.22 | foxlit | And sunwell is "lol, park!" |
| 17:27.39 | g0urra | Shadow Labyrinth |
| 17:27.49 | g0urra | very .. shadowy |
| 17:27.55 | foxlit | Green, Purple |
| 17:28.00 | foxlit | light! |
| 17:28.16 | foxlit | there are no grue-supporting dungeons :( |
| 17:32.17 | g0urra | Don't you love when the guild leader robs the guild bank off epic gems to socket his crap gear... |
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| 18:00.04 | MrUseful | (Dark Legacy Comic) #143: Think Fast! - http://www.darklegacycomics.com/143.html |
| 18:10.55 | Lukian | g0urra, nah, our guild sells all epic gems atm :p |
| 18:12.06 | g0urra | ah, good to hear that your guild is so generous |
| 18:12.46 | g0urra | our gm is so cheap he won't let us pay raid repairs from guild bank, and sells all the stuff for his own needs |
| 18:13.37 | g0urra | Lukian, server? |
| 18:15.27 | Lukian | jubei'thos (oceanic) |
| 18:24.08 | g0urra | :( |
| 18:29.19 | Lukian | I was trying to understand the flavour text on 'Sanguine http://www.google.com.au/search?q=define%3Asanguine , any suggestions? |
| 18:29.23 | Lukian | er |
| 18:29.31 | Lukian | "Sanguine Hibiscus" |
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| 18:34.48 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: is there any real difference between 333 and (what is it?) 2f? doesn't look like it, but was just wondering. |
| 18:35.18 | Kirkburn | 333 looks like it should be part of the bg |
| 18:35.27 | Kirkburn | I just find it jarring |
| 18:35.32 | Sky2042 | huh |
| 18:36.23 | Kirkburn | That a template box should have "transparent" areas |
| 18:36.23 | Sky2042 | strange, as #333 is what it was before i changed it :P |
| 18:36.23 | Sky2042 | changed the colors* |
| 18:36.23 | Kirkburn | Still looked odd :P |
| 18:36.28 | Sky2042 | pft. |
| 18:36.31 | Sky2042 | oh well |
| 18:36.35 | Sky2042 | will live, either way. |
| 18:36.46 | Sky2042 | as it doesn't look that much different ;P |
| 18:37.03 | g0urra | Sky2042: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Patches |
| 18:37.20 | Sky2042 | g0urra: ? |
| 18:37.32 | g0urra | looks good with above & below? |
| 18:37.46 | Sky2042 | yes, though I'd abbreviate and italics the stuff in above. |
| 18:37.58 | g0urra | 'kay |
| 18:38.44 | Sky2042 | actually did a really nice job with that one, though some of the character references make no sense. |
| 18:39.34 | Sky2042 | ie, " – " |
| 18:45.12 | Kirkburn | it's double spacing |
| 18:45.25 | Sky2042 | wth is the difference between the game terms category and the glossary category? |
| 18:45.36 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: i see little reason for that >.> |
| 18:45.43 | Kirkburn | Readbility |
| 18:45.47 | Kirkburn | *readbility :P |
| 18:45.50 | Kirkburn | dammit"! |
| 18:45.58 | Kirkburn | *readability >_> |
| 18:46.10 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, I have no idea |
| 18:46.25 | Sky2042 | spellability, imo |
| 18:46.45 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 18:46.55 | Kirkburn | I'd say game terms should all be in Glossary |
| 18:47.51 | Sky2042 | I actually think we could split glossary into wow glossary and warcraft glossary |
| 18:48.37 | Kirkburn | Did it figure on Zeal's plan? |
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| 18:48.48 | Sky2042 | no, but i think it merits the change anyway |
| 18:48.58 | Kirkburn | Oh, I agree |
| 18:49.09 | Kirkburn | Just wondered whether he'd already got something for it |
| 18:49.23 | Sky2042 | i don't think he did, but i'm not going to bother to check. ^^ |
| 18:49.28 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 18:49.54 | Kirkburn | Does this link load for anyone? http://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/images/5/59/MiniSporeling.png |
| 18:50.18 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 18:50.20 | Kirkburn | I'm unable to get any response from images.wikia |
| 18:50.26 | Kirkburn | How odd |
| 18:50.39 | Kirkburn | Ah, flibble, it works now |
| 18:50.42 | Fisker- | everything happens for a reason neo |
| 18:51.01 | Kirkburn | Images all seems to be acting oddly for me atm (e.g. favicon is broken) |
| 18:56.06 | Ose|afk | Kirkburn: what do I need to change to make <span style="float:center;">{{{{{1}}} Icon Small}}</span> '''<h4 style="float:center;">{{{1}}} Guilds</h4> not break lines? |
| 18:56.17 | Sky2042 | (not use h4) |
| 18:56.19 | Ose|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki:Server_project/Guild/Start&action=edit |
| 18:56.24 | Sky2042 | chuckles. |
| 18:56.47 | Kirkburn | Don't use float:center, for one |
| 18:56.51 | Kirkburn | It doesn't exist |
| 18:56.56 | Ose | aww... |
| 18:56.56 | Kirkburn | left, right or none |
| 18:58.07 | foxlit | loots a Skull of Guldan. |
| 18:58.17 | Sky2042 | foxlit: sweet |
| 18:59.31 | Ose | foxlit: YOU ARE NOT PREPARED to wield it so please hand it over |
| 19:01.23 | foxlit | still not hitcapped. drat. |
| 19:02.00 | Sky2042 | you're that far into WoW and you're not hit capped. |
| 19:02.06 | Sky2042 | shames foxlit. |
| 19:02.35 | foxlit | Generally speaking, you don't need to be |
| 19:02.58 | foxlit | Plus I love my blueberry friends with AWESOME totems |
| 19:03.01 | g0urra | infobot, 2000000/160 |
| 19:03.01 | infobot | 12500 |
| 19:03.19 | foxlit | infobot, pi/e |
| 19:03.19 | infobot | 1.15572734847 |
| 19:03.47 | foxlit | clever infobot! |
| 19:04.01 | g0urra | infobot, 780000/60 |
| 19:04.02 | infobot | 13000 |
| 19:04.09 | g0urra | slow dps is slow |
| 19:04.41 | Sky2042 | foxlit: generally speaking you don't need to be?... only against trash, and who cares about the trash. -_- |
| 19:04.56 | Sky2042 | if you're takin on bosses, hit capping is the most efficient way to increase dps |
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| 19:05.28 | foxlit | Blanket statements are meaningless in the face of available itemization |
| 19:05.39 | foxlit | +500 awesome rating or +5 hit? You decide! :) |
| 19:06.27 | Sky2042 | foxlit: you should be hit capped and have +450 awesome rating. |
| 19:06.39 | Sky2042 | at the BT level, anyway |
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| 19:10.56 | foxlit | Awesome starts when you're not hit capped, but are hit capped with group buffs :) |
| 19:11.03 | foxlit | Which works for me :) |
| 19:11.45 | Sky2042 | foxlit: unfortunately |
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| 19:16.29 | foxlit | About 1.3% off without equipping hit gear and without group buffs |
| 19:29.04 | Sky2042_afk | g0urra: suggestion for when you navbox stuff: leave some whitespace, a la http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Guides&curid=90605&diff=1369993&oldid=1369550 . not a requirement, but it does make it easier to pick out the groups and lists. |
| 19:29.49 | g0urra | ok |
| 19:29.51 | Sky2042_afk | hmm |
| 19:33.16 | foxlit | Oh wow, this animation... is awesome. |
| 19:33.36 | Ose | which one? |
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| 19:33.58 | foxlit | Skull of Gul'dan casting |
| 19:34.31 | Ose | o.O |
| 19:34.38 | Ose | you eat it? |
| 19:35.40 | foxlit | no, it sets you on fire |
| 19:35.58 | Ose | awesome! |
| 19:36.04 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 19:36.36 | foxlit | I'm so adding a screenshot |
| 19:36.58 | g0urra | http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.32483#71220 |
| 19:37.01 | PanSola | Reminder: chat in #Wikia-gaming in 25 minutes! |
| 19:37.46 | Ose | what do you think of the layout on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Server_project ? |
| 19:38.56 | Kirkburn | Um ... http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Mount&curid=13849&diff=1369999&oldid=1364289 |
| 19:39.07 | Kirkburn | How does a death knight get a mount at level 40 :P |
| 19:39.15 | foxlit | gourra: http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.32483#78561 imo |
| 19:39.23 | Sky2042 | lol kirkburn |
| 19:43.32 | Sky2042 | gaming chat in #wikia-gaming starts in 17 minutes |
| 19:44.17 | Fisker- | i will destroy you |
| 19:45.53 | Ose | infobot, set Fisker- destruction mode -1 |
| 19:47.00 | Fisker- | ACCESS DENIED |
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| 19:48.46 | Sky2042 | btw, kirkburn, when was your name added to "staff" permissions? |
| 19:49.47 | Kirkburn | Thursday or friday |
| 19:50.24 | Sky2042 | was j00 hired? |
| 19:50.30 | Kirkburn | As yet, I have not utilised the powers |
| 19:50.38 | Kirkburn | I am already an employee >_> |
| 19:51.04 | Adys | Kirkburn has been a wikia employee for a while sky |
| 19:51.07 | Sky2042 | huh. i though you were an intern (unpaid) |
| 19:51.11 | Sky2042 | sighs at Adys. |
| 19:51.30 | Adys | No, really. |
| 19:51.46 | Kirkburn | Only since ... er ... last year. |
| 19:51.46 | Sky2042 | Adys: I knew this -_- |
| 19:52.06 | Adys | Why did you just say you didn't know then? :p |
| 19:52.24 | Sky2042 | I didn't say that. -_- |
| 19:52.49 | Adys | [21:51:07] <Sky2042> huh. i though you were an intern (unpaid) |
| 19:53.03 | Sky2042 | That does not say "I did not know that" |
| 19:54.20 | Jimdinventor | Actually, it does. :-) If A <> B, and you think A, then you do not "know" B. |
| 19:54.35 | Sky2042 | ... Jimdinventor... er, no. |
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| 20:16.11 | Sky2042 | You'd be perfect for #uncyclopedia , ose |
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| 20:17.02 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: it was the new preprocessor which comes with 1.12 which cleared up that "bug" |
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| 20:19.39 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, yay |
| 20:19.50 | Sky2042 | Jimdinventor: you think maybe you could put all your macros on [[Useful macros for druids]] ? |
| 20:20.14 | Jimdinventor | Actually, many of them are there already. I'm purposefully developing this new concept space. |
| 20:20.19 | g0urra | Sky2042: {{navbox}} could use some wowwiki examples |
| 20:20.40 | g0urra | s/}}//code}}/ |
| 20:20.44 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: I only know this because a person at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Navbox was having issues; UseTidy didn't fix it, so I told him to upgrade to 1.12. |
| 20:20.52 | Sky2042 | Jimdinventor: erg. why not a second page then? |
| 20:20.53 | g0urra | I mean {{navbox/doc}} |
| 20:20.54 | g0urra | or something |
| 20:21.05 | Sky2042 | Jimdinventor: something like "Advanced macros for druids" |
| 20:21.29 | Jimdinventor | It is my belief that those pages will be created as category pages. |
| 20:22.02 | Jimdinventor | In fact, I was playing with the idea of adding "Category: Druid Ability" to the bottom of those macro pages that apply. |
| 20:22.16 | Sky2042 | as well Jimdinventor, <name> (macro) is ambiguous, which is part of the problem. |
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| 20:22.51 | Jimdinventor | Please elaborate. You are expressing the existence of a problem admirably, but I don't realize exactly what the problem is. :-) |
| 20:24.32 | Sky2042 | Jimdinventor: colating all the macros on one page (two, three, w/e) ensures that information is not duplicated (for one), and two, ensures naming issues (such as the one just specified) also aren't developed. Naming something "x (macro)"... I could click on "x (macro)" as a mage, and it wouldn't help me in the slightest. |
| 20:24.41 | g0urra | Jimdinventor: http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros_for_druids |
| 20:24.44 | Sky2042 | (currently) |
| 20:24.47 | Sky2042 | g0urra: i just said that. |
| 20:24.51 | g0urra | k |
| 20:25.01 | Sky2042 | g0urra: also, agree with examples. You can work on that if you want :P |
| 20:25.13 | g0urra | I'm trying to keep track of a NHL hockey game, BT instance run and IRC channel at the same time |
| 20:25.21 | Sky2042 | o_o |
| 20:25.36 | g0urra | luckily it's just radio ad right now |
| 20:25.53 | g0urra | but the boss start now so meh |
| 20:26.13 | Jimdinventor | <emphatic nod>. Duplication of information is indeed my 1st motivator. You'll note that macros are duplicated all across the class-macro pages. Am I rash, then, in thinking that moving them to their own, categorical pages is a bad idea? |
| 20:27.02 | Sky2042 | Jimdinventor: if they are duplicated in such a manner, they should be moved to [[Useful macros]] or some such. Making them their own pages also makes them more difficult to search for. |
| 20:27.45 | Jimdinventor | Okay. I can agree with that. May I pose something else for your consideration? |
| 20:28.21 | Sky2042 | feel free =) |
| 20:29.03 | g0urra | 3-0 pittsburgh yesss |
| 20:30.23 | Jimdinventor | Thank you! I see macros as "deep" to the same degree that mob and items are deep. That is, just like a mob gets an article to discuss its abilities, location, strats, etc, so too do macros get discussed in terms of "what purpsoe does this serve?" or "when does it fail?". In your opinion, do the total-macro-pages permit the space for this depth? |
| 20:30.23 | infobot | Jimdinventor: my pleasure |
| 20:30.43 | Sky2042 | wtf infobot? |
| 20:30.48 | Sky2042 | xD |
| 20:30.50 | Jimdinventor | heh |
| 20:31.36 | Adys | thank you ChanServ |
| 20:31.36 | infobot | pas de quoi, Adys |
| 20:31.40 | Adys | thought so |
| 20:33.13 | Sky2042 | Jimdinventor: I see what you mean, and I would say they do, though of course that's opinion. |
| 20:34.26 | Jimdinventor | :-) Alright. I will sideline what I was attempting, for now, and work instead on removal of duplicates on the class-specific pages (moving them to the Useful Macros main where appropriate). That's a good job anyway! |
| 20:35.06 | Sky2042 | Jimdinventor: certainly. I can definitely agree though that in many cases, the information on each macro could be expanded. |
| 20:35.26 | Jimdinventor | Thank-- uh, m e r ci - much for your perspective in the matter, Sky. I really do appreciate it. |
| 20:35.26 | infobot | sure thing, Jimdinventor |
| 20:35.35 | Jimdinventor | Damn you, infobot. |
| 20:35.42 | Sky2042 | infobot, damn you. |
| 20:35.43 | infobot | ACTION damns you. to the bowels of bloody hell forever. |
| 20:35.50 | Jimdinventor | lol |
| 20:35.56 | Sky2042 | infobot's an idiot. |
| 20:36.09 | Jimdinventor | I must regretfully agree. |
| 20:36.30 | Sky2042 | infobot, kirkburn |
| 20:36.30 | infobot | Author of the phunky font changing addons ClearFont and ClearFont2, and WoWWiki bureaucrat. Also likes kittens and middle-management. |
| 20:36.52 | g0urra | ~sky2042 |
| 20:36.52 | infobot | sky2042 is probably a cool wowwiki and wowhead mod. |
| 20:37.00 | Kirkburn | Only 2 of those 4 facts are true. |
| 20:37.07 | Kirkburn | Er, *3 |
| 20:37.08 | g0urra | ~g0urra |
| 20:37.11 | g0urra | ~Gourra |
| 20:37.14 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: i'd say that's 5 things, but could be wrong. |
| 20:37.16 | g0urra | heh |
| 20:37.18 | Sky2042 | ~gourra |
| 20:37.32 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, yeah I wrote 5 originally. I should have just stayed quiet :P |
| 20:37.39 | Jimdinventor | "g0urra is an infobot interrogator. I wish he'd leave me alone." |
| 20:37.55 | g0urra | infobot, g0urra is an infobot interrogator |
| 20:37.55 | infobot | g0urra: okay |
| 20:38.04 | Jimdinventor | bwah ha ha haha |
| 20:38.13 | g0urra | infobot no, g0urra is an infobot interrogator. I wish he'd leave me alone. |
| 20:38.14 | infobot | g0urra: okay |
| 20:38.20 | g0urra | ~g0urra |
| 20:38.21 | infobot | i guess g0urra is an infobot interrogator. I wish he'd leave me alone. |
| 20:38.41 | Jimdinventor | I guess I can die fulfilled, now. |
| 20:39.20 | g0urra | pittsburgh vs philadelphia, 4-0 yesss, in your face |
| 20:48.52 | Keolah | I find it inordinately amusing to sheep a Son of Arugal... then run away because I'm a poor squishy level 18 mage. |
| 20:51.17 | g0urra | 5-0 |
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| 20:55.17 | foxlit | http://www.spirit-dreams.net/box/felturkey.jpg |
| 20:55.59 | foxlit | If you see it coming, run like hell! |
| 20:56.36 | Jimdinventor | Interesting, but out of season. Bookmark it for American Thanksgiving, and your friends will think you a genius. |
| 20:57.11 | Sky2042 | oh, also Kirkburn, all the [[Special:Log]]s were cleared when we merged userbases... can haz fix? |
| 20:57.22 | Kirkburn | It's known |
| 20:57.32 | Kirkburn | Don't worry, it'll get done :) |
| 20:58.20 | Ose | :( |
| 20:58.39 | Ose | infobot, set weekend +1 day |
| 20:59.15 | kd3 | la-de-da... so the official map's been uploaded so far, and that's it? |
| 20:59.22 | kd3 | expected a bit more than that by this point |
| 20:59.33 | Ose | official map of what? northerend? |
| 20:59.36 | kd3 | ya |
| 20:59.39 | Ose | link |
| 20:59.44 | kd3 | leaked from the client. it's been deleted |
| 21:00.01 | Ose | aww |
| 21:00.41 | Ose | I guess the b e t a will come pretty soon |
| 21:01.30 | Ose | and now, instead of /quit, beta beta beta |
| 21:01.37 | Ose | aww... |
| 21:01.52 | Ose | adys disable kickthingy? |
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| 21:04.58 | Adys | eh? |
| 21:05.58 | Kirkburn | I have no idea |
| 21:06.23 | Kirkburn | kd3, I *think* people are more used to how it works now |
| 21:07.03 | kd3 | meh... here's hoping |
| 21:07.27 | Kirkburn | I don't think we were quite so proactive last time |
| 21:07.42 | Sky2042 | wonders wth you two are talking about. |
| 21:07.46 | Kirkburn | (we didn't know about the F&F alpha until later certainly) |
| 21:08.09 | Kirkburn | Regarding that official map ... wtf at the size of Storm Peaks |
| 21:08.36 | Kirkburn | It seems to have engulfed Azjol'Nerub /and/ Crystalsong Forest |
| 21:08.54 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:WorldmapNR.jpg |
| 21:09.09 | Sandwichman2448 | It that his art or the map? |
| 21:09.12 | g0urra | art |
| 21:09.13 | kd3 | that's art |
| 21:09.13 | Kirkburn | His art |
| 21:09.26 | Sandwichman2448 | K |
| 21:09.30 | kd3 | map was NorthrendMapOfficial.jpg |
| 21:09.43 | Sandwichman2448 | There may have been more than one... |
| 21:09.51 | Kirkburn | Still wonder how Azjol'Nerub will be done - WoW doesn't support underground areas well |
| 21:10.05 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: gnomer, imo. |
| 21:10.06 | Kirkburn | Normally they have to be entirely modelled, as opposed to a heightmap |
| 21:10.24 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah. All one doodad. |
| 21:10.29 | Kirkburn | Well, gnomer is a huge model |
| 21:10.39 | kd3 | so is IF, now that I think about it |
| 21:10.45 | Kirkburn | But AN has got to be much larger |
| 21:10.49 | Bagginsww | you could make sky using a skybox right? |
| 21:11.06 | Kirkburn | true, but that'd be such a cop-out |
| 21:11.08 | Bagginsww | the rest fo the world wouldn't be loaded while your there |
| 21:11.17 | Kirkburn | You're underground, cause we blacked out the sky :P |
| 21:11.23 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 21:11.27 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: it works. |
| 21:11.34 | Bagginsww | well a brown texture mapped skybox |
| 21:11.35 | Bagginsww | :p |
| 21:11.45 | Bagginsww | and tunnells too :p |
| 21:11.58 | Kirkburn | It's possible they could do more than one heightmap, but that'd be unprecedented in WoW |
| 21:12.08 | Bagginsww | closer you get to the roof they could then spawn an actual roof |
| 21:12.21 | Bagginsww | with stalactites |
| 21:12.39 | Bagginsww | depends on how far they want the roof to be |
| 21:12.51 | Kirkburn | True, we have no idea what scale they're working on |
| 21:12.54 | Bagginsww | depending on which part of the the area your at |
| 21:12.57 | Sandwichman2448 | They say something about it here: http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=1&cId=3163178 |
| 21:13.04 | Kirkburn | All we've seen of AN is some caverns in TFT |
| 21:13.17 | Bagginsww | but ya anyone play KOTOR? |
| 21:13.26 | Bagginsww | the underground in that game was pretty cool |
| 21:13.34 | Bagginsww | on the first world. |
| 21:13.34 | Kirkburn | "It's going to be exterior terrain, but underground" |
| 21:13.49 | Kirkburn | "It'll feel like you're in a cave, but it'll be gigantic. Buildings, temples -- a look and feel very similar to Naxxramas, since [the Nerubians] are where the Scourge stole that architecture from." |
| 21:13.51 | Bagginsww | probably something like the underground in KOTOR |
| 21:14.13 | Kirkburn | For it to be exterior terrain, that has to be a height map o_O |
| 21:14.19 | Kirkburn | I'm so very intrigued |
| 21:14.19 | Bagginsww | but maybe something akin to Moria in FOTR movie |
| 21:14.37 | Bagginsww | btw, LOTRO is doing the same thing with Moria |
| 21:14.42 | Kirkburn | I played KOTOR :D |
| 21:14.42 | Bagginsww | huge Underground world |
| 21:14.52 | Kirkburn | I've forgottem most of it >_< |
| 21:14.55 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 21:15.01 | Bagginsww | well I played only the first world :p |
| 21:15.05 | Bagginsww | before I got sick of star wars :p |
| 21:15.06 | Kirkburn | I got withing 5 minutes of the ending and never finished it ... >_> |
| 21:15.12 | Bagginsww | not because of the game |
| 21:15.23 | Kirkburn | Just cause it was star wars? |
| 21:15.23 | Bagginsww | but because of the changes to the movies... for the worse... |
| 21:15.27 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 21:15.42 | Kirkburn | makes plans to play KOTOR again |
| 21:15.48 | g0urra | holy shit 6-0 |
| 21:15.53 | Bagginsww | I'll play it... but not because its star wars |
| 21:15.57 | Bagginsww | because I like the company that made it |
| 21:16.06 | Bagginsww | I love their jade empire and mass effect |
| 21:16.22 | g0urra | flyers are getting owned |
| 21:17.32 | Kirkburn | Annoyingly, I can't make a WMV screenshot of Anub'Rekhan ... the colours get all washed out for some reason |
| 21:17.55 | Fisker- | datamining! |
| 21:18.11 | g0urra | datamining! |
| 21:18.12 | Fisker- | i remember back in the days |
| 21:18.13 | Fisker- | when he was black |
| 21:18.18 | Bagginsww | can't wait for Jade Empire 2 ;) |
| 21:18.38 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Rexxar#He.27s_not_technically_a_Mok.27nathal |
| 21:22.57 | foxlit | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/05/18/wow-as-a-bargaining-chip/ |
| 21:23.02 | foxlit | screenshot is awesome, rest of article, who knows |
| 21:23.13 | foxlit | " ... You're making the peon cry. ..." |
| 21:23.40 | Sky2042 | ^ |
| 21:23.43 | Sky2042 | yeah |
| 21:24.43 | foxlit | "How dare you make the peon cry." |
| 21:24.53 | foxlit | "You will now be terminated for making the peon cry." |
| 21:25.45 | Sandwichman2448 | Aww... |
| 21:27.21 | Sandwichman2448 | Hey Bagginsww, did I get this right? http://www.wowwiki.com/Trade_Coalition |
| 21:29.03 | g0urra | Sky2042: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Gourra/Sandbox/5 looks good to you? |
| 21:29.08 | Bagginsww | not sure |
| 21:29.33 | Sky2042 | g0urra: for? |
| 21:29.41 | Bagginsww | cartels and trade empires may be synomous :p |
| 21:29.43 | g0urra | the image |
| 21:29.46 | Bagginsww | Dark Factions might clear this up though |
| 21:29.59 | Bagginsww | its got a huge expansion on goblin information |
| 21:30.24 | Sky2042 | g0urra: i like the kalimdor one. |
| 21:30.34 | Sky2042 | the barrens overbalance the picture. |
| 21:31.11 | Kirkburn|sleep | Overbalance? |
| 21:31.47 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn|sleep: pft. you bed now. |
| 21:31.52 | Kirkburn|sleep | Hmm, isn't that the wrong Barrens map anyway? |
| 21:32.43 | g0urra | "wrong barrens map"? it's the one linked on main article |
| 21:33.09 | Kirkburn|sleep | Yeah, but we uploaded a whole bunch of new ones of standard size |
| 21:33.12 | Sandwichman2448 | :O |
| 21:33.35 | g0urra | ah maybe http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:WorldMap-Barrens.jpg |
| 21:34.17 | Kirkburn|sleep | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:WorldMap-Barrens.jpg |
| 21:34.20 | Kirkburn|sleep | Dammit |
| 21:34.34 | Kirkburn|sleep | Yeah, they all need to be replaced on articles with those versions |
| 21:34.54 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Coords/Maps |
| 21:36.06 | Kirkburn|sleep | Bah, I'll stick on my todo, unless someone gets to it first |
| 21:36.50 | g0urra | Kirkburn|sleep, stick http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Navbox/doc on it too :p |
| 21:37.00 | Sky2042 | oh jebus |
| 21:37.02 | g0urra | could use some local loving |
| 21:37.07 | g0urra | yes I went there. |
| 21:37.13 | Sky2042 | g0urra: can you boilerplate http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Gann%27s_Reclamation for me? |
| 21:37.19 | g0urra | ok |
| 21:37.20 | Kirkburn|sleep | @ Sky, don't put that thing near me :) |
| 21:37.49 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn|sleep: I didn't say that! |
| 21:37.53 | Sky2042 | g0urra did! |
| 21:38.03 | Kirkburn|sleep | I know :P |
| 21:38.08 | g0urra | cackles maniacally |
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| 21:38.35 | Kirkburn|sleep | Anyway, I must congratulate you on getting it set up |
| 21:38.48 | Kirkburn|sleep | Hope there's not toooo many to convert |
| 21:39.24 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn|sleep: i said last night i'd ask arcanedeath to do it. |
| 21:39.29 | Sky2042 | cackles like g0urra. |
| 21:44.25 | g0urra | Sky2042: done |
| 21:44.30 | Sky2042 | g0urra: thx. |
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| 21:46.13 | Sky2042 | g0urra: now, fix links to http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Quest:Did_Someone_Say%2C_%22Souvenir%3F%22_%28Alliance%29&redirect=no |
| 21:46.15 | Sky2042 | ^^ |
| 21:46.29 | Fisker- | i wanted the white snow Sky2042 |
| 21:46.31 | g0urra | goes on WW:BR |
| 21:46.47 | Sky2042 | g0urra: why would you need WW:BR?.. |
| 21:47.00 | g0urra | 'cause it would make it easier. :P |
| 21:47.11 | Sky2042 | g0urra: just use AWB :o |
| 21:48.05 | Vesitin | yay first character on a server, level 31, and i already have more than enough gold to buy my level 40 mount |
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| 21:48.29 | Mikk | money is obscenely easy with some auctioneering |
| 21:48.51 | Mikk | the other day i got it into my head to try it with my level20 something cow that had 3 gold or so |
| 21:49.09 | Mikk | after _three_ AHing sessions is have 25 gold, and still items left to sell |
| 21:49.43 | Vesitin | i'd have more gold if i didn't stop every couple of levels to browse for new gear, but it's kind of required with warriors |
| 21:50.02 | g0urra | is happy he only got a rogue to level now |
| 21:50.19 | Vesitin | i just rerolled horde on another server and i'm working on three toons there |
| 21:50.28 | Mikk | meh. only real important for rogues&warriors is good weapons |
| 21:50.29 | g0urra | server, eu/us? |
| 21:50.33 | Sandwichman2448 | I got a nether ray... |
| 21:50.33 | Mikk | the rest doesn't really matter as much |
| 21:50.40 | Sandwichman2448 | sucks at WoW. |
| 21:50.41 | Vesitin | the warrior, which will become my main...a rogue, and also a shama nthat i'm working on with a guildy from my ally server |
| 21:50.45 | g0urra | good job Sandwichman2448! |
| 21:50.47 | Vesitin | Demon Soul US |
| 21:50.57 | g0urra | Aggramar EU |
| 21:51.17 | Sandwichman2448 | Moonrunnehforgetit. |
| 21:51.29 | Vesitin | yea i need to upgrade my weapons i haven't really found any 'great' ones yet...i got the blue mace from SFK and a green axe from AH |
| 21:51.41 | Vesitin | but the blue mace is lvl 20, about time for an upgrade |
| 21:52.02 | Vesitin | should browse RFK and SMGY/Lib drops |
| 21:52.11 | g0urra | it's crazy though, I could sell a stack of runecloth on steamwheedle cartel for 16g, while on aggramar it's just 4-5g |
| 21:52.43 | g0urra | probably has something with that steamwheedle is an RP server, heh |
| 21:53.06 | Vesitin | i wonder how barrens chat is on RP servers... |
| 21:53.17 | Sandwichman2448 | I have a made-up family to feed. |
| 21:53.54 | g0urra | "On some RP servers, good ol' Chuck is replaced with High Overlord Saurfang" |
| 21:53.56 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Barrens_chat |
| 21:54.02 | Mikk | Zug-zug! The filthy humans killed Mankrik's wife! FORM A RAID TO FIND HER! |
| 21:54.18 | Sky2042 | g0urra: lol |
| 21:57.14 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Barrens_chat&curid=25101&diff=1370284&oldid=1367667 |
| 21:57.14 | Mikk | Bah. I had to fix the bad cow pun section. It didn't even mention udders. |
| 21:57.19 | Sandwichman2448 | LULZ |
| 21:58.19 | Vesitin | F5! |
| 22:01.24 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:WorldMap-Aszhara.jpg wroooong name |
| 22:01.46 | Vesitin | that's Aszhara.... |
| 22:01.56 | Sky2042 | Azshara* |
| 22:01.57 | Vesitin | man i hate that zone |
| 22:02.05 | Sky2042 | pcj: poke. |
| 22:02.10 | Vesitin | i hate any zone that has a lack of raods |
| 22:02.13 | pcj | hi |
| 22:02.13 | infobot | privet, pcj |
| 22:02.13 | Vesitin | roads |
| 22:02.13 | g0urra | yes, Azshara |
| 22:02.24 | g0urra | lol @ infobot |
| 22:02.29 | Sky2042 | hi pcj, you might want to fix that so we don't kill the tooltips. |
| 22:02.39 | pcj | fix what |
| 22:02.55 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:WorldMap-Aszhara.jpg wroooong name unless it's misspelled by blizzard? |
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| 22:03.02 | pcj | It's misspelled by blizzard |
| 22:03.07 | pcj | we've been over this like 3 times now |
| 22:03.54 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 22:04.03 | Sky2042 | g0urra: leave a note on the image tlak page plx |
| 22:05.18 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Pcj#Template:Zone_Map |
| 22:06.02 | Mikk | (Am I the only one that can't see resized images at all in the wiki?) |
| 22:06.32 | g0urra | Mikk: I have that problem sometimes |
| 22:06.38 | g0urra | s/es/e/ |
| 22:07.00 | Jimdinventor | No he didn't, infobot. :-p |
| 22:07.39 | Mikk | the img src: http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/thumb/d/d7/WorldMap-Aszhara.jpg/501px-WorldMap-Aszhara.jpg |
| 22:07.44 | Mikk | and that one certainly does not load |
| 22:07.55 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image_talk:WorldMap-Aszhara.jpg |
| 22:07.58 | Sky2042 | Mikk: kirkburn mentioned it today, actually. |
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| 22:09.14 | Mikk | eh... NOW it loaded |
| 22:09.54 | Sandwichman2448 | I think I need to rewrite Cashbringer to fit with lore better, not that it is important, but how much is that policy enforced? |
| 22:10.08 | Mikk | i lie, it still doesn't show in the page |
| 22:10.13 | Kirkburn|sleep | I'll check up on the image loading thing tomorrow |
| 22:10.21 | Kirkburn|sleep | Something very odd is going on |
| 22:10.33 | Mikk | funnily, if i request it from my linux box with a raw wget, it shows |
| 22:10.46 | g0urra | I had that problem before, <gallery> didn't show images |
| 22:11.09 | g0urra | Kirkburn|sleep: I quote night elf rangers: "Are we being invaded?" |
| 22:11.20 | Kirkburn|sleep | How long ago is "before"? |
| 22:11.37 | g0urra | dunno, a week or two |
| 22:11.55 | Kirkburn|sleep | Hmm, I've seen seeing it for about a day |
| 22:11.56 | g0urra | still doesn't work completely, but at least /some/ images show |
| 22:12.07 | Kirkburn|sleep | Ah well, I'll see what I can do |
| 22:12.46 | Mikk | I've had it since the latest upgrade |
| 22:13.00 | Mikk | Not a single resized image shows for me |
| 22:13.23 | kd3 | weird... I've only had that happen when a cache broke |
| 22:13.46 | Mikk | Galleries, thumbnails... nada. Even clicking into an image page does nothing for me when the image page itself shows a scaled-down one (which is true for screenshots) |
| 22:14.13 | Mikk | Hokay... just copy&pasted the image url from opera to firefox, and it worked there |
| 22:14.30 | Kirkburn|sleep | how odd |
| 22:15.03 | Mikk | .... |
| 22:15.04 | Kirkburn|sleep | (I'm properly running off to bed now, I'll catch up on discussion tomorrow) |
| 22:15.05 | Mikk | IGNORE ME |
| 22:15.22 | Mikk | Somehow I had an ad blocker that triggered on that url >.< |
| 22:15.23 | Kirkburn|sleep | I could never ignore you |
| 22:15.24 | Vesitin | is it me or did the silly catagory get HUGE? |
| 22:15.27 | g0urra | Odd enough the problem only shows when I'm in firefox, but fine in safari. :| |
| 22:15.30 | Kirkburn|sleep | And L.O.L. |
| 22:16.20 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:TuskarrFemale.JPG hot. |
| 22:16.41 | Sandwichman2448 | Vesitin: Yes it has. We need more rules for it. |
| 22:17.14 | Mikk | Here's the kicker though.... that URL isn't in my ad block list |
| 22:17.58 | Sandwichman2448 | 'Hot' is not quite the word... |
| 22:18.28 | g0urra | also lol http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/Lvl_60_IRC |
| 22:18.29 | Vesitin | considering they live in the arctic climate of northrend... |
| 22:18.39 | Adys | old as shit |
| 22:18.48 | Mikk | oho there we go.... *.nocookie.net/* |
| 22:18.55 | Mikk | wonder what they did to piss me off |
| 22:19.35 | Sandwichman2448 | The impracticality of her dress was pointed out. |
| 22:19.37 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tuskarr#Female_model |
| 22:20.47 | Sandwichman2448 | "Articles in this category must be notable, being known on at least two different servers. |
| 22:21.00 | Sandwichman2448 | How many do you think are? |
| 22:21.21 | Sandwichman2448 | Even mine... |
| 22:22.13 | kd3 | meh, I should probably drop nelf mistakes in that cat |
| 22:22.19 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/Night_elves_continued |
| 22:23.32 | Sandwichman2448 | I remember it was big on the forums. |
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| 22:24.35 | Adys | Kirkburn|sleep, ping |
| 22:30.16 | Sandwichman2448 | Does Cat:Silly need more enforcement? |
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| 22:35.11 | Sandwichman2448 | I take that as a 'no'... |
| 22:35.48 | Mike-N-Go_ | http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_FAQ/AddOns#Legal.3F needs citation. |
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| 22:46.07 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Require_naming_cleanup :| |
| 22:48.33 | Mike-N-Go_ | I add it to the list there? |
| 22:49.44 | Sky2042 | lol, Mike-N-Go_, tag it with a {{fact}} |
| 22:49.55 | Mike-N-Go_ | Sky2042: Thank you. |
| 22:51.28 | foxlit | <!-- Nedenstående indsat af TDC for at måle trafikken samtidig med at brugeren er 100% anonym. Koden må ikke sættes ud af funktion, kopieres, eller ændres. --> <img src="http://statistik-gallup.net/V11***tdckoncern_dk/dk/ISO-8859-1//"> |
| 22:51.31 | foxlit | I is outraged! |
| 22:51.42 | Mike-N-Go_ | I do not know the wiki markup well. |
| 23:16.17 | Bagginsww | I suggest, watching eman's edits. While some of his additions are ok... some of it shows a high degree of horde bias, or mechanic comparisons |
| 23:16.45 | Bagginsww | also he has a tendency to modify quotes |
| 23:17.30 | Bagginsww | By that I mean adding stuff into quotes that wasn't said there previously. |
| 23:17.58 | Bagginsww | While paraphrasing should occur, simply modifying blockquoted material is not paraphrasing |
| 23:20.33 | Bagginsww | lol |
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| 23:23.54 | Sky2042 | oh, that post felt real good. |
| 23:31.05 | Sky2042 | oh yes, that felt real good. |
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| 23:41.22 | Mikk | No, don't go sticking {{fact}} into the UI FAQ |
| 23:41.39 | Sky2042 | Mikk: then cite it, imo. i know it's true, but it needs a linkie |
| 23:42.08 | Mikk | The UI FAQ is fairly devoid of wiki markup for a purpose |
| 23:42.52 | Bagginsww | oh ok dark factions pdf is out? |
| 23:42.56 | Bagginsww | ok must order now :) |
| 23:43.00 | Mikk | Err the whole section is blockquoted stuff |
| 23:43.11 | Mikk | What exactly needs to be more clear there? |
| 23:43.23 | Sky2042 | Mikk: A LINK TO THE OP |
| 23:43.29 | Sky2042 | do you not get that? >_< |
| 23:43.41 | Mikk | No, i'm liek st00pid |
| 23:43.45 | Bagginsww | momentaryil :) |
| 23:43.49 | Mikk | That was 3 forums ago |
| 23:44.12 | Sky2042 | well then, explanation should be on the page, eh? |
| 23:46.23 | Mikk | Fine. I have now explained that posts can disappear from the blizzard forums. |
| 23:46.31 | Mikk | And that this one indeed has. |
| 23:46.50 | Sky2042 | Mikk: cool. works for me. |
| 23:46.53 | Mikk | Not that that in and of itself makes it any more verifiable nor believable so I fail to see how it serves a purpose. |
| 23:46.59 | Mikk | shrugs |
| 23:52.48 | Bagginsww | personally never consider forum posts all that reliable or easy to cite :p |
| 23:52.54 | Bagginsww | because of the instability |
| 23:53.14 | Sky2042 | so you cite an archival site |
| 23:53.21 | Bagginsww | if I can find one |
| 23:53.32 | Sky2042 | o_o |
| 23:53.34 | Bagginsww | but ya I use wayback on occasion |
| 23:53.45 | Bagginsww | but it doesn't always have all the archives |
| 23:54.09 | Mikk | http://mikk.cjb.net/chillpill.jpg |
| 23:54.27 | Bagginsww | yay pdf is almost downloaded :) |
| 23:55.10 | Bagginsww | next best thing to having my actual hardcover :p... but doesn't require me lugging around all my books over here... |
| 23:56.29 | Bagginsww | sweet |
| 23:57.18 | Sky2042 | watches as Bagginsww starts jacking off. |
| 23:57.19 | Sky2042 | ;P |
| 23:57.27 | Bagginsww | eww |
| 23:57.44 | Bagginsww | there is "prawn" in the book :p |
