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01:14.59pcjhow long does wikia typically take to respond to server requests kirkburn
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04:18.01Sky2042_afksilly gryph isn't on :/
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04:42.55KirkburnMorning
04:43.03Kirkburnpcj, depends
04:43.09Sky2042Kirkburn: morning? o_o
04:43.30Sky2042how late is "morning"? 3ish?
04:43.31KirkburnThey've not been looked at recently due to all the upgrade stuff, but this week should see a fair few sorted
04:43.36Kirkburn5:42am
04:43.51Sky2042brr... so they're going after our server requests?
04:44.07KirkburnIndeed already got a few done/on their way
04:44.09Sky2042and q: is imagemap basically <imagelink>, or am i hallucinating?
04:44.12Sky2042coolio.
04:44.29KirkburnSimilar, but not identical
04:44.36Sky2042which, or do i have to wait for you to spill the beans later?
04:45.16pcjYes
04:45.30KirkburnOpensearch plugin was fixed
04:45.51KirkburnImage replacements should be live tomorrow
04:45.59Sky2042replacements?
04:46.12KirkburnRedirect arrow, recent changes arrow
04:46.21Sky2042cool.
04:46.30KirkburnThe other things all have been assigned now too.
04:46.49Sky2042"assigned" as in "dates to be done" or "people to do them"?
04:46.56Kirkburnlatter
04:47.05Sky2042good good. and the bugs?
04:47.11Sky2042(those will be fun, imo)
04:47.47Kirkburnbroken redirects and the others?
04:47.54Sky2042aye.
04:48.09KirkburnAlso been assigned, have no updates yet
04:49.47KirkburnBut I have specific people to pester now:P
04:49.57Sky2042Hagger on WoWWiki
04:50.09Sky2042gonna need help for this kirkburn.
04:50.13Sky2042bops kd3
04:50.29Kirkburneh?
04:50.48Sky2042problem user on Wikipedia.
04:50.58Sky2042really bad problem user
04:51.10Sky2042pokes Charitwo. you too.
04:51.17Kirkburnlooking...
04:51.22CharitwoHAGGER????
04:51.36Sky2042yes, him./
04:51.42Charitwoi added him to the global blacklist
04:51.55Sky2042well, he's here either way.
04:51.58KirkburnWe can revert page moves now btw :)
04:52.10Sky2042i put a block on the first one, but iunno how long till the next.
04:52.24Sky2042Kirkburn: as in "rollback"?
04:52.29KirkburnAye
04:52.29Sky2042ah hell.
04:54.28Sky2042well, he gave up fast.
04:55.09pcji think sky was lying
04:55.29CharitwoSky2042: he's on everquest now
04:56.05Sky2042Kirkburn: fail.
04:56.11Sky2042just tried to rollback a page move.
04:57.38KirkburnI forgot to tick "move talk page" first time
04:57.55KirkburnWhy on earth it's not ticked by default on a revert screen I dunno
04:58.27Sky2042Charitwo: can i get a +v on cvn?
04:59.05Charitwohold on
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05:24.28Sky2042hey, Kirkburn, are we ever going to get that php based forum?
05:25.12KirkburnIt's not high on the list of priorities atm
05:26.03Sky2042ouch. you think they could set one up in the vain of ffxi possibly? i'm tired of having a huge VP, and I'm hesitant to start using the forum namespace, as <forum> is just a <DPL> hack.
05:26.22KirkburnIt's possible, yeah
05:26.30KirkburnI'll ask
05:26.38Sky2042that would be cool =)
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06:01.57Sky2042Arcanedeath: your bot finish up?
06:03.25ArcanedeathDays ago...
06:03.31Sky2042yum.
06:04.06Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:World_of_Warcraft_items_by_type_and_slot
06:04.12Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:World_of_Warcraft_items_by_type
06:04.20Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:World_of_Warcraft_items_by_slot
06:05.12Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:World_of_Warcraft_items_by_slot is missing a few.
06:05.29Sky2042shoulders
06:05.43Sky2042aaaand...
06:07.50ArcanedeathThis looks kind of lonely:
06:07.51Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:World_of_Warcraft_finger_items
06:08.02Sky2042head, shoulders, chest, wrists. hands, waist, legs, feet.
06:08.12Arcanedeathneck
06:08.17Arcanedeathfinger
06:08.34Arcanedeathwhere do trinkets go?
06:08.39Arcanedeathstocmach?
06:08.47Sky2042oh, chest is missing.
06:10.06Arcanedeathnot anymore
06:10.23Arcanedeathwhy is the finger item category almost empty?
06:11.20Sky2042double check whl
06:11.41Sky2042Arcanedeath: http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Rings
06:11.49Sky2042you, move, there to finger
06:11.50Arcanedeathlol so we have a duplicate
06:11.51Sky2042^^
06:11.53Arcanedeathok
06:12.10Arcanedeathnot right now, it's pretty late in my timezone
06:12.21Arcanedeathwhere do tabards and shirts go
06:12.27Sky2042heh, there's a whole slew you could help fix.
06:12.31Sky2042by slot
06:12.36Arcanedeaththey are worn on the "chest"
06:12.47Sky2042yes, but they aren't chest slot items.
06:12.52Sky2042and the cat is by slot.
06:12.54Sky2042;P
06:13.18ArcanedeathOh I see
06:14.05Sky2042Arcanedeath: in fact... http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Incorrect_Categories
06:14.06Sky2042have fun.
06:14.27ArcanedeathOh I will.
06:14.49Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:AOE_Spells
06:14.58Arcanedeaththe linked category on there is red
06:15.14Sky2042{{sofixit}}
06:15.17Sky2042;)
06:15.22Arcanedeatho i c
06:15.52Sky2042most of them will probably be set up. i would suggest making the new cat pages on your main account, as well as tagging old ones for speedy
06:16.05Sky2042hmm
06:16.21Sky2042that could probably be merged.
06:16.46Sky2042i'm sure zeal would go all kungfu on me, but that might be a better way to name it anyway
06:17.08ArcanedeathWhat could be merged?
06:17.08Sky2042Arcanedeath: http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:World_of_Warcraft_equipable_items is essential duplicate of by slot..
06:17.55ArcanedeathI'll merge them and set up a redirect for now
06:18.11Sky2042i don't know which to merge to though :/
06:18.20Arcanedeathhmm
06:18.53Arcanedeaththey describe two different things...
06:18.53Sky2042i like both about equally. by slot has the advantage of working for the subcategory of by slot and type, but equipable items goes in zeal's tree rather nicely.
06:18.58Sky2042hardly.
06:19.08Sky2042they describe two of the same things differently.
06:19.29Sky2042having fun kirkburn?
06:19.55Kirkburnum, yes?
06:20.01Sky2042ok, just checkin
06:20.02Sky2042=]
06:20.04KirkburnWatching There's Something About Mary :P
06:20.19Sky2042hahhah
06:20.22Arcanedeathsince his was first I'll set up a permanent redirect.
06:20.44Arcanedeathit will have constiency with my naming method and not break his
06:20.46KirkburnIs it me, or is the name of http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Incorrect_Categories ironic?
06:21.03Sky2042Kirkburn: yes, it is.
06:21.16Sky2042all are added by the template though, iirc
06:21.35KirkburnAue
06:21.37Kirkburn*aye, even
06:21.57Sky2042fixed.
06:24.53Sky2042Kirkburn: i think there's a bug in the parser...
06:25.04Sky2042or not
06:25.05Sky2042never mind.
06:25.31KirkburnThe old bug you posted was fixed by the new parser, did you see?
06:25.37Sky2042about?
06:25.38Kirkburn(or 1.12 final possibly)
06:26.05ArcanedeathWhy does it stop saving my edit at a null byte?
06:26.11KirkburnSky2042, looking,,,
06:26.21Sky2042Arcanedeath: ?
06:27.34ArcanedeathIt is a character
06:27.51Arcanedeathwith a value of 0
06:28.01KirkburnSky2042, http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Server_requests#Post_1.12_upgrade
06:28.21Arcanedeathnvm nobody is going to put a null byte in there anyways
06:28.23Sky2042seriously...
06:28.28Sky2042omfg.
06:29.01Arcanedeathlol
06:29.02Sky2042oh my effing god.
06:29.02Kirkburn?
06:29.02Sky2042does a happy dance.
06:29.02Kirkburnlol
06:29.18Sky2042be afraid. be very afraid. for a revolution in navboxes is coming.
06:29.27Kirkburneek
06:29.52Arcanedeathtables should not be used for layout
06:29.58Arcanedeathheathen!
06:30.03Arcanedeathonly for tabular data
06:30.10Arcanedeathinfidel!
06:30.12Sky2042Arcanedeath: yeah, well, divs don't do classes well.
06:30.26ArcanedeathHeretic!
06:30.34KirkburnAlso, I would contest that it is tabular data to an extent :P
06:30.41Sky2042You sound just like Zeal. >_<
06:30.46Arcanedeathlol
06:30.47Sky2042he hates tables.
06:31.08ArcanedeathWant to see a table layout?
06:31.14Sky2042is gonna need to fix some things...
06:31.33KirkburnWoWWiki's old main page was mostly tables >_<
06:32.07Sky2042which is based off wikipedia does. :o
06:32.16Sky2042except how it was done was worse :/
06:32.28ArcanedeathHere is an ugly example: http://www.dreamweaver-templates.org/
06:32.32Sky2042you could do the same with the divs now used on our main page as they do on wikipedia..
06:32.32KirkburnWhat was based off Wikipedia?
06:32.55Sky2042Kirkburn: nvm.
06:33.04Sky2042Arcanedeath: hmm... looks like some of the stuff we do.
06:33.06Sky2042=]
06:33.41Sky2042Kirkburn: i is gonna be killing / tweaking some classes the next few days.
06:33.47Kirkburn:O
06:33.56Sky2042more likely tweaking.
06:34.00ArcanedeathHaving rewritten a table layout to pure, holy, css before I hate them
06:34.03Sky2042yay for needing to dual skin :/
06:34.11KirkburnCareful about whether users will need to cache refresh
06:34.19Sky2042Kirkburn: they probably will.
06:34.22ArcanedeathContent should be seperated from display
06:34.42Sky2042Kirkburn: do you happen to know if we have a serverside cache on css changes?
06:34.55Arcanedeaththats why we have moved from <b> to <strong>, it describes what it is, not what it does
06:35.11KirkburnGive a day or two for major changes
06:35.35KirkburnIt changes immediately, and the CSS link updates, but you can't trust browsers to pick it up
06:36.50ArcanedeathCan css files be included into pages? (not inline css)
06:37.32Sky2042Arcanedeath: we can implement page specific css iirc, but not in the way you're thinking.
06:37.42Sky2042only by going with the global css.
06:37.58Sky2042which doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but is safer.
06:38.30Sky2042Kirkburn: you use monaco custom, don't you?
06:38.36Kirkburnaye
06:38.53ArcanedeathIf I wanted to I could put a fake "login" link up there, I don't see how it is any safer
06:39.50Sky2042how do you think i could tweak http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Navbox/test#Image,_above,_groups_and_lists,_wowwiki alternating colors wise?
06:40.10Sky2042i'd like a lighter black instead of that dark grey if possible :/
06:40.30ArcanedeathI can barely see the d and e
06:40.38Arcanedeathagainst that background
06:40.45Sky2042Arcanedeath: don't be so color blind.
06:40.50Sky2042:P
06:41.03KirkburnWhy are they so dark o_O
06:41.10Sky2042and/or help with the search for a different gray
06:41.12Sky2042Kirkburn: ?
06:41.17Kirkburnthose two links
06:41.22Sky2042custom css
06:41.45Sky2042i thin the issue i was having was that it wasn't showing up very well in monobook.
06:42.09KirkburnWell, put light colour stuff in common.css, dark stuff in monaco.css and wowwiki.css
06:42.22KirkburnWhat do you mean exactly by changing the colours
06:42.58Sky2042on the cells with the infoz in them.
06:43.19Sky2042instead of black / grey, black / darker grey
06:43.51KirkburnYeah, can I point out that black is an abolute :P
06:44.02KirkburnYou want to darken the grey highlight?
06:44.23Sky2042yes, that was the plan
06:44.30Sky2042i wanted to keep the black, tyvm. :P
06:44.42KirkburnIt's very dark grey, but point taken :)
06:44.54KirkburnYeah, it could be slightly darker
06:46.01Sky2042#2C2C2C could be?...
06:46.33ArcanedeathThis is how it looks on my computer http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/7378/visiblecu9.png
06:46.49ArcanedeathCan you see that>
06:46.51Sky2042Arcanedeath: the same.
06:46.53Sky2042and yes
06:47.04Arcanedeathok lol maybe it is just me
06:47.12Sky2042the contrast is not quickly apparent, but that's the point.
06:47.15KirkburnWhat is it currently, Sky?
06:47.30Sky2042that hex right up there.
06:47.42Sky2042|evenstyle
06:47.58KirkburnThe highlight colour is almost #333?
06:48.15Sky2042yeah. i was trying to darken it from #333, iirc.
06:48.31Sky2042#333 is what's used for the "!"
06:48.45Sky2042<td>? >.>
06:48.57Kirkburn! = <th>
06:49.07Sky2042bah.
06:49.19Sky2042what the hell is the white above any given table?
06:49.33Sky2042"|+"
06:49.49Kirkburn|+ is the caption above a table
06:50.11Sky2042what is that, <tc>? :/
06:50.41Kirkburn<caption>Foo</caption>
06:50.48Sky2042....
06:50.55Sky2042sighs at the idiocy of it all.
06:52.02KirkburnAnyway, #2c looks fine
06:52.28Kirkburnhrm ... actually I'm confused
06:52.36KirkburnIs that not what we already have?
06:52.55Sky2042yes, that's what we already have. it's not dark enough.
06:53.22Kirkburngah, I get it now
06:54.42Kirkburn262626 perhaps
06:54.57KirkburnI was intending to go afk, so ... afk
06:55.17Sky2042mk, will have a look at 262626 some other time.
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06:56.14Sky2042oooo, that's really close to ideal.
06:58.04Sky2042got it.
06:58.48Sky2042thanks Kirkburn|afk. have a look, maybe tweak. the coloration should be subtle.
07:01.03Sky2042222222 is too dark, so it should prolly be 232323 or 242424.
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10:29.50Kirkburn|afkMorning (again!)
10:49.00g0urramorning Kirkburn
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11:48.11Kirkburndsfarghegaaaaaar, um
11:48.16KirkburnHaving problems?
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12:22.15AdysBibi, stop dcing :/
12:22.25Bibis'toi qui déco
12:22.34Bibij'ai juste bougé sur le pc principal pour te répondre, et paf, tu deco
12:22.39Adysbah t'es offline la.
12:22.46Bibivoila
12:22.47Bibiheureux ?
12:22.48Bibi:p
12:23.05Adysoui.
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12:42.28Kalrothoui oui
12:43.49KalrothVoulez-vous coucher avec moi se soir?
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13:23.28KirkburnLookit, we's gots nice redirect image - http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Server:Jubei%27Thos&redirect=no
13:25.47pcjnice
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13:26.25Kasoisnt it svg?
13:26.45pcjis this trac thing publicly available kirkburn
13:26.55KirkburnNope
13:26.59Kasohttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Icon-disambig.svg use that rotated by 90 degrees
13:27.05Kirkburnand not SVG, but only due to unavailability atm
13:27.30KirkburnI'd rather have the "proper" one, but waiting for Adys on that
13:29.53Adyssup?
13:30.09KirkburnSVG images, want more :P
13:30.14Adysoh
13:30.24KirkburnI can get the redirect one changed again pretty easily now :)
13:30.29Adyswikimedia commons, tango SVG
13:30.39Adysi have no idea where the proper redirect icon was
13:30.40KirkburnDirect copy?
13:30.50Adysuhm
13:30.57Adystried checking wikipedia's redir template?
13:31.09KirkburnDid you directly copy the others, just want to check I need do nothing else
13:31.25Adysoh
13:31.27Adysyeah
13:31.30Adysgo to the svg page
13:31.32Kirkburnok, cool
13:31.33Adyssave as svg file
13:31.39Adys(cant right click btw)
13:31.44Adysif you're in ff
13:31.51Adysand then upload the svg
13:31.55KirkburnWorked fine so far o_O
13:32.22Adysand yea you can rotate the disambig icon
13:32.24Adyswant me to?
13:33.34KirkburnThis page? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tango
13:33.45KirkburnAnd yeah please
13:34.59Adysaye this page
13:36.29Kasoscrew svg imo! lets make all our images out of pure html; http://www.lancs.ac.uk/ug/duncanj/htmlimage.html
13:40.56Adysfuck html
13:41.01Adyslets use plain text and ascii
13:41.23Adysretarded websites should not be allowed to use js
13:41.27Adyslike digg ffs
13:42.05KirkburnTechs are working on making the images replaceable via CSS, which'll make it even easier :)
13:42.08Adysalso Kaso this looks pretty easy to convert images to html like that
13:42.27AdysKirkburn, what do you mean,
13:42.27Adys?
13:42.43Kirkburnredirect and the rc arrows
13:42.49KirkburnThey have no classes >_<
13:43.04KirkburnTechs are gonna add them
13:43.05Adysoh
13:43.06Adyscool
13:43.07Kasoyah i wrote a quick script to generate images like that a while back
13:43.16Kasocouple of loops and your done basically
13:47.01Kirkburnwow
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13:47.48KasoAdys you should see firefox try to render a 800x600 image done like that though ;)
13:47.55Kasofirefox sorta manages, IE just dies
13:48.05Adysyou should see webkit rendering this
13:48.22Adysactually
13:48.30Adysyou should prob download the SVG webkit testcases
13:48.32Adysits scary
13:49.25Kaso^_-
13:50.22Kasosomeone should make a webkit in a firefox shell imo, that'd be cool
13:50.34Kasowebkit is fast, but i cant stand safari's interface
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13:52.27AdysKaso, epiphany needs a couple more plugins and improvement
13:52.35Adysand this will be over :P
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14:33.34DottedAdys
14:33.43KirkburnVarg is awesome - http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Varghedin/DH1
14:33.46Dottedisnt epiphany gecko based oO?
14:33.54Dottedlies kirk
14:34.06KirkburnJust took a look through that - it's very accurate
14:39.01Dottedit needs anti aliasing
14:40.17g0urraKirkburn: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#How_to_kill_a_.....28class.29_pages
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14:42.58DottedAdys
14:43.00Dottedisnt epiphany gecko based oO?
14:43.15Adysthey are going for webkit
14:43.23Dottedhmm
14:43.43Dottedanyways, its made by gnome folks so it fails by defaul
14:43.45Dottedy
14:43.47Dottedt*
14:43.51Addybotyou fail at spelling
14:43.52Addybotby default
14:43.57Dottedyep
14:44.33Dottedi fail at failing aswell
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14:57.41bleetercan anyone cite a source for http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Patch_2.4.2%2FUndocumented_changes&diff=1364516&oldid=1364483 ?
14:59.31KirkburnNo idea
14:59.49bleeter:(
15:00.01bleeterbtw, hai kirky :)
15:00.37Oseuhm, Kobold is spelled "Kobold", right?
15:00.48g0urrayes, why?
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15:02.01Oseit's spelled Kolbold on http://www.wowwiki.com/What_kobolds_are_and_aren%27t
15:02.38Kirkburn>_<
15:02.44KirkburnYeah, that's wrong
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15:12.07Osewhoa! what's with the Kara page?
15:12.27g0urraI'm investigating it
15:13.00OseKirkburn seems to have tried to fix it...
15:13.14g0urradone
15:13.23g0urrahm
15:13.26pcjIs someone going to fix the {{Loot}} bug
15:13.46Kirkburnbug?
15:14.01pcjWhere it starts showing the external links after so many uses of it
15:14.21pcjbecause of ifexist limits
15:15.32KirkburnDo /not/ visit that vandalism. >_>
15:15.51Kirkburn(I'm glad revert properly reverts both moves and edits)
15:16.02TecnoBratwhat was it?
15:16.22KirkburnHTML goatse.cx
15:17.04TecnoBratugh
15:17.06TecnoBratretards.
15:31.09AdysWas MW using text/x-wiki or application/x-wiki as mimetype?
15:31.11AdysKirkburn, pcj
15:32.21pcjtext/x-wiki
15:32.22pcjhttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php#Raw
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16:23.02Oseanyone got any idea what the average browser font size people use is?
16:35.22pcjover 9000
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16:40.04g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Introducing_the_Tinfoil_Hat oh man.
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16:44.49foxlitues, g0urra?
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19:37.23amrothat's some connection you've got there Adys__
19:39.37Osesuccess?
19:40.35Ose~seen bagginsww
19:40.44infobotbagginsww <n=baggins@vnam2.uhh.hawaii.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 2d 3h 37m 32s ago, saying: 'on wikipedia and school library site :p'.
19:46.23Oseuhm...
19:46.46OseIs the server crahsing or something?
19:47.37Oses/crahsing/crashing/
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19:49.03OseKirkburn?
19:49.09KirkburnKnown
19:49.26Oseit seems to apply to most pages, but not all
19:50.08OseAJAXRC stopped working too
19:54.12g0urrawow I've been called an admin
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19:54.23Kirkburng0urra, :O
19:54.47Bagginswwgourra I see you ran into that uh pandaren maniac...
19:55.02Bagginswwno offense to Pandaren Maniacs ;)
19:55.04g0urrayeah
19:55.20g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Gourra#Unbecoming_of_An_...Admin.3F_Is_That_What_You_Are.3F_Mod.2C_Maybe.3F
19:55.22OseKirkburn: is the problem wikiawide?
19:55.26Bagginswwanycase ya we don't allow random hero names because its too easy for people to make up informaton about them
19:55.28Kirkburnaye
19:55.39g0urraBagginsww: drop him a note
19:55.40BagginswwI tried to leave a message on his page
19:55.51Bagginswwbut uh 500 error
19:56.20pcjworking for me...
19:56.42KirkburnSome pages are okay, probably depends on which server answers
19:57.00OseRC is back online
19:58.38winkillerbest way to get Illusion Dust?
19:58.52g0urradisenchant
19:59.04g0urraask someone to disenchant
19:59.10g0urraor buy from the auction house
19:59.19winkiller4g/ppc atm ><
19:59.31KirkburnShould be back to normal now
19:59.33winkillerI'm at 287 Enchanting, I can DE
19:59.33g0urraI noticed the AH has gone mad
19:59.42winkillerbut no decent greens on
19:59.44g0urra40g per primal water, wut
19:59.53winkilleryeah
19:59.58winkillersummer madness
20:00.09g0urrawinkiller: I got 44 in da bank
20:00.45winkillerwanna exchange for arcane or.. stuff? :P
20:00.58g0urra2g each?
20:01.03winkillersure :)
20:01.08Osehttp://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/b/b3/AAAAAAAAA_%28Abridged%29.ogg :P
20:01.18g0urraok remind me after MH
20:01.26winkillerwill do, no hurry
20:01.54winkillerthepriest is only 36, not that I'm in a hurry to get to 300 Ench/Tailor
20:01.56Bagginswwoh and gourra, I'm don't have a problem with pandaren brewmaster being split out.
20:02.07Bagginswwto a seperate page
20:02.09Bagginswwit mightneed to be
20:02.18Bagginswwas the upcoming Dark Factions is for a "Brewmaster"
20:02.25Bagginswwnot "Pandaren Brewmaster"
20:04.27Bagginswwit might be based on pandaren brewmaster, but it looks like it might end u being something any race can take up
20:04.30g0urraI don't mind that either but that's not we're talking about ?
20:04.46Bagginswwoh and I keep on getting a 500 error :p
20:05.04Bagginswwjust commenting on one of his changes
20:05.39Bagginswweh I'll try one more time if it doesn't work I'll have to get back to styding
20:05.48BagginswwI'll let kirkburn leave him a warning :p
20:06.06Bagginswwhmm look slike it posted anyways
20:06.13foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/PLAYXPERT is a featured article
20:06.16foxlitWho could've thunk.
20:09.21KirkburnFeatured cause they made something cool for WoWWiki :)
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20:11.23KirkburnYeah, it's not exactly a FA, but there wasn't really any other way to tell people about it
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20:20.32JunCkisWhat specc do you sugget for a hunter who wants to farm bgs? 41/20/0?
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20:33.27Adys[21:37:23] <amro> that's some connection you've got there Adys__
20:33.28Adysi know
20:33.31KirkburnTechs are about to do some server stuff, may be a little bit of downtime
20:33.34Adysthis one shouldnt get dc'd
20:33.48AdysAdys__ is on the main comp
20:33.56Adysactually its dc'd right now
20:33.59Adystakes twenty mins...
20:34.12Adystrying to track down the problems with my wifi
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20:35.00Adysif only freenode wasnt on permanent connection :/
20:35.12Sky2042sighs at Bagginsww.
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20:39.39Bagginswwsorry looking at munsell soil charts :P... not sure what you sigh at me for
20:39.50Sky2042see delete log.
20:39.56Sky2042and history of the undeletion.
20:41.19BagginswwI deleted random pandaren names...
20:41.27Sky2042and you shouldn't have.
20:41.40Sky2042reiterates: look at the page history.
20:41.54Bagginswwnot all short stories are from the RPG
20:42.07Sky2042but then, they aren't novels.
20:42.58reviveranyone familiar with WF3sec?
20:43.08Sky2042wf3?
20:43.25Bagginswwthey are short stories
20:43.28reviverWF3sec = shaman addon
20:43.30Bagginswwthey have their own article
20:43.34Bagginsww[[short stories][
20:43.48Sky2042but by definition, a short story isn't a novel.
20:43.58Bagginswwyou could change the template to "Prose" if you are that naal
20:44.01Bagginsww*anal
20:44.20Sky2042i'm not. warlock is.
20:44.26Sky2042i merely agreed with him.
20:45.00Bagginswwthen change it to prose
20:45.03Bagginswwprose story
20:46.07Sky2042Bagginsww: i don't need to. you do.
20:46.13Sky2042and explain why on the talk page.
20:48.23Bagginswwbtw, how do you define novel :)
20:48.37Bagginswwstrangly the definition is not exactly specific :)
20:48.53Bagginswwone definition is it is  "invented prose narrative"
20:48.57Sky2042if short story isn't part of it, then it's not a short story.
20:49.07Bagginswwusually long, but not necessarily
20:49.10Sky2042ie: stop lawyering.
20:49.14Bagginsww:)
20:53.57BagginswwDanath the wrong last name ("Dungalion") because at the time it was written, he didn't have an official last name.
20:53.58Bagginswwgg
20:54.03Bagginswwwarcraft 2 anyone?
20:54.09BagginswwHe was danath trollbane in the manual
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21:03.48Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Novel#Should_Novels_.26_Short_Stories_be_Seperate_Tags.3F
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21:44.25g0urrawinkiller: ping
21:44.59winkillersec
21:45.08winkillerwhere do you want me? org or shatt?
21:45.12g0urraorg
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21:45.19g0urraalso I think I just saw you
21:45.31g0urrawith another hunter
21:45.32g0urra:p
21:45.36winkillerlol
21:45.41winkillerTrollning?
21:45.50g0urrahaha yeah
21:45.53g0urrawhat a coincidence
21:45.54winkillerrofl
21:46.04winkillerTharadin at bank
21:46.09g0urraok
21:47.52g0urraevery time I see healer loot from MH on another player I die a little inside
21:48.03winkillerno luck?
21:48.28g0urra4 bosses, the only thing I could use was the T6 gloves (which I already had)
21:48.42g0urrawent to a crazy priest for 320 dkp
21:48.46winkiller:/
21:48.58g0urrano mace, no shield, no belt
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21:49.34g0urraand if I see more warrior t6 from archi I'll go cry
21:50.14winkillerlast raidnight we didn't call off was a desaster on farm content, not bette
21:50.32g0urra:/
21:51.02winkillerhad many people quit the game recently
21:51.21g0urrawe've had about 5+ people transferring/gquitting
21:52.15winkillerwho?
21:52.32g0urrarazo, suginami, demayo
21:53.02winkillerat least names I know
21:53.07g0urra:P
21:53.33g0urrawho quit?
21:54.05winkillerfirst Kruellagh/Drazhard, then Bartelby
21:54.31g0urrabah
21:54.39winkiller2 officers quit wow :P
21:55.25winkillerthen medunar/Reapsey, Cuffalot/punkazoid and spellchucker
21:55.43winkillerbut maybe 2 of those come back
21:57.28g0urraman
21:57.40g0urralots of people I know are quitting
21:57.48ArcanedeathWhy?
21:57.50g0urrapiess too
21:57.55winkillerWarhammer :P AOc
21:58.00g0urraand my best friend quit some time ago for AoC
21:58.03ArcanedeathRunescape is upgrading graphics?
21:58.18ArcanedeathProbably going to runescape
21:58.21g0urraArcanedeath: AoC release soon, beta right now
21:58.27Sky2042Arcanedeath: lol...
21:58.30winkillermy war is preordered, bu just curious
21:58.31Arcanedeathnah, it's runescape
21:58.35Sky2042g0urra: speaking of which, check out aoc.wikia.com!
22:00.19Arcanedeathlol wut?
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22:20.34winkillerg0urra: normal underbog? last spot :)
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22:21.04g0urrawarlock, warrior, druid, shaman, priest or paladin? :P
22:21.10winkillersome dps
22:21.16g0urraok invite my shaman
22:21.43ArcanedeathWhat server you guys play on?
22:22.08g0urraAggramar EU
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22:37.50ArcanedeathWow.
22:37.51Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Moggthok&rcid=1347150
22:37.54ArcanedeathXD
22:38.34Kasonominate for FA imo
22:39.20Arcanedeath"Moggthok pwns all noobs. Especially Ghulmore. He pwns Ghulmore very much. He pwns him as much as a pro pwns a noob. Its true. Srsly. kk? "
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22:44.40AdysKirkburn|sleep, you might find this useful
22:44.51Adyshttp://code.google.com/docreader/#p(doctype)s(doctype)t(CSSProperties)
22:45.49ArcanedeathIt has MS proprietary ones too though, be careful
22:47.44Adysyea
23:00.43CorganAdys sucks
23:00.53Adysskus nagroc
23:01.03Corganuon
23:01.18Adys): oftg
23:01.35Corgan?yad sdrawkcab
23:01.45Adysno.
23:01.50Corgan:(
23:02.17Adysgniggub tneilc ruoy sti
23:02.43Kaso~rot13 gniggub tneilc ruoy sti
23:02.43infobottavttho garvyp ehbl fgv
23:02.48Kasonope?
23:02.51Kasowtf are you on abot adys
23:02.57Adysbackwards you dummy
23:03.02Kaso>.<
23:03.15Adys[01:02:51] <Kaso> wtf are you on abot adys
23:03.19Adysbotsex is past me btw
23:03.26AdysTeomyr, quote this plz
23:03.32Kasoharhar!
23:04.36Adys~rot26 kaso sucks
23:04.36infobotkaso sucks
23:05.00Adys~rot 3.14 tacttho garvyp ehbl fgv
23:05.00infobot3.14 tacttho garvyp ehbl fgv
23:05.06Adys~rot3.14 tacttho garvyp ehbl fgv
23:05.10Adysaww.
23:05.19Kasohow can you rot by a non-int value?
23:05.57Adysdude pi is an int
23:06.00Adysstop insulting it!
23:06.09Adys(((((JKJKJK)))))
23:06.18Adysbefore Fisker- goes trolling
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