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| 01:10.50 | Bagginsww | it would be interesting if they split death knights lore down the middle. Horde become ones similar to the ones in the Horde. Human bodies possessed with orc souls (not like they have don't have access to walking dead already). While alliance gets the mostly-human looking former aladins. |
| 01:10.57 | Bagginsww | *paladins |
| 01:13.10 | Bagginsww | I got hte idea when I noticed they split the death knight lore right down the middle (two seperate headings), and the concept art seems to be split between death knights that look more undead and some that look more alive |
| 01:14.53 | Bagginsww | oh and kirkburn... as for the class nev... there seems to be a minor arguement over how "dk" should be portrayed. Some think Dk looks better, since the word isn't supposed to be capitalized in regular use. |
| 01:15.09 | Bagginsww | others have argued for the sake of the class nav, that it should be DK because its two words |
| 01:15.23 | Bagginsww | what's your take? |
| 01:16.05 | Kirkburn | For consistency with the other classes it should be Death Knight imo |
| 01:16.19 | Kirkburn | We should probably start a proper full-blown convo somewhere |
| 01:17.23 | Bagginsww | well all other classes, are lower case use as well in most text. Its only capitalized when used a page title. |
| 01:17.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Not quite true ... we use caps for the specific class, no caps for geenral term |
| 01:17.55 | Bagginsww | so when you see your class name show up in a quest its "lower case" |
| 01:18.14 | Bagginsww | Hail, mage, what brings you here?? |
| 01:18.46 | Kirkburn|afk | We've been doing RP = no caps, mechanics = caps |
| 01:19.25 | Kirkburn|afk | It's entirely possible to look at the idea of the policy to be all no caps |
| 01:19.26 | Bagginsww | role playing? |
| 01:19.41 | Kirkburn|afk | aye, in game stuff, general talk about mages as a concept |
| 01:19.43 | Bagginsww | I was looking more along the lines as how we treat race names too |
| 01:19.55 | Bagginsww | we don't capitalize most of our article pages |
| 01:19.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Rather than the "Mage game class" |
| 01:20.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Races are different |
| 01:20.26 | Bagginsww | well I look at it the way things are used in prose and descriptions |
| 01:20.56 | Bagginsww | if the topic on hand shows up as the name of a article or book the title will be capitalized but not necessarily in the article itself. |
| 01:21.15 | Bagginsww | thus you get Death Knight Lore |
| 01:21.26 | Bagginsww | where as you readh the article everything is not capped |
| 01:22.14 | Bagginsww | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/features/deathknight/lore.xml |
| 01:22.30 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying what we've been doing :P |
| 01:22.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Looking to see if the class thing was ever set in stone |
| 01:23.41 | Bagginsww | I know I pretty much went around and decapped all the rpg class pages over a year ago, unless the names were to specific organizations :p |
| 01:24.01 | Kirkburn|afk | MOS: "Classes should only be capitalized when used as a proper noun, i.e. as someone's name. ("Warlock, go be evil" versus "That warlock is quite evil.")" |
| 01:24.29 | Bagginsww | so looks like my interpretation is what we have been using? |
| 01:25.38 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Scarlet_Crusader that one is one of the only classes that's supposed to be capitalized I think. |
| 01:25.48 | Bagginsww | as its a class and an organization |
| 01:26.36 | Bagginsww | although I should go back and check, to make sure it wasn't given caps when it was brought into the wiki :p |
| 01:31.42 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
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| 01:33.15 | Gourra|away | Though I see the headers on the official site are all in higher caps (?) for example "Death Knight Lore", the text are in lower caps, "death knights" etc |
| 01:33.57 | Sandwichman2448 | The counter-vandalism IRC is broken for me. There is a vandal on the loose. |
| 01:34.23 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Zax965 |
| 01:35.02 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeh. |
| 01:35.10 | g0urra | Edited rollbacked |
| 01:35.20 | g0urra | s/Edited/Edits/ |
| 01:35.36 | Sandwichman2448 | K |
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| 01:37.20 | Bagginsww | yep it was definitely full caps. for the Scarlet Crusader |
| 01:38.12 | Bagginsww | header would be in caps because its common to give a book an article a capped title |
| 01:38.41 | Bagginsww | don't know if that's an english language thing or follows through into other languages as well? |
| 01:38.52 | Bagginsww | other languages that have capitalization systems |
| 01:39.41 | Bagginsww | so that moves onto to decision for class nav? Should we use DK or Dk? Dk at least points out that its not intended to be normally written in caps |
| 01:42.19 | g0urra | DK imo since it shows it uses the first letter from both words, unlike the other classes (Ma, Dr etc) |
| 01:42.47 | Bagginsww | hmm I should see what the abreviation was in the RPG :) |
| 01:43.05 | g0urra | we don't play in the RPG do we? |
| 01:43.07 | Bagginsww | ithas official abbreviations for every classintroduced |
| 01:43.16 | g0urra | yes but it can change.. |
| 01:43.16 | Bagginsww | still a death knight is a death knight |
| 01:43.59 | Bagginsww | anycase I'd figure its probably a three letter abreviation two name classes tend to be |
| 01:44.23 | g0urra | DeK? |
| 01:44.31 | g0urra | or what |
| 01:46.00 | Bagginsww | Dkn |
| 01:46.34 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#MOS_and_capitalization_issues :) |
| 01:46.52 | Bagginsww | "The Death Knight (Dkn)" A&HC 26 |
| 01:47.12 | Bagginsww | although a 3 letter abbreviation would be akward on the class nav LOL |
| 01:47.28 | Bagginsww | only time we'd really need it is if two classes shared the same abbreviation otherwise |
| 01:47.40 | g0urra | I think that's more of a case of avoiding confusion between class abbreviations |
| 01:47.49 | Bagginsww | I can't think of anything inthe RPG that might share the same abbreviation of dk :p |
| 01:48.23 | g0urra | But the three letter abbreviation applies to more classes than that, right? |
| 01:48.29 | Bagginsww | I might take the time to list up all the official abbreviations in their articles for fun sometime |
| 01:48.54 | Bagginsww | many of the two name+ name classes |
| 01:49.04 | Bagginsww | erm two+ |
| 01:49.15 | Bagginsww | but there are some overlaps |
| 01:49.46 | Bagginsww | I mean they would be an overlap if there wasn't a third letter |
| 01:50.00 | Bagginsww | since the classes could technically share the same abbreviation |
| 01:51.21 | Bagginsww | I think itusually goes with three letter abbreviation most of the time to avoid any confusion whatsoever |
| 01:51.35 | Bagginsww | let's play a game |
| 01:51.38 | Bagginsww | guess the class, LOL |
| 01:51.44 | Bagginsww | Dmh |
| 01:51.53 | g0urra | Demonhunter |
| 01:52.07 | Bagginsww | correct |
| 01:52.10 | Bagginsww | Dav |
| 01:52.14 | g0urra | also lol http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Gourra/Sandbox/4 |
| 01:52.21 | g0urra | Dav? no idea |
| 01:52.31 | Bagginsww | Dwarven Avatar |
| 01:52.37 | Bagginsww | Mkm |
| 01:52.55 | g0urra | uhhh Mighty kamikaze |
| 01:52.57 | g0urra | on idea |
| 01:53.02 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 01:53.05 | Bagginsww | Marksman |
| 01:53.22 | g0urra | yeah I guess Mam doesn't look good |
| 01:53.41 | Bagginsww | Ncr |
| 01:54.27 | g0urra | Necromancer |
| 01:54.29 | Bagginsww | just a couple more of these and I'll go check up the traditional class abbreviations |
| 01:54.31 | Bagginsww | yep |
| 01:54.39 | Bagginsww | Pml |
| 01:54.42 | g0urra | Pummeler |
| 01:54.48 | Bagginsww | Primal |
| 01:54.54 | Bagginsww | Wmg |
| 01:54.58 | g0urra | pffft Pummeler sounds better |
| 01:55.00 | g0urra | Warmage |
| 01:55.09 | Bagginsww | yep |
| 01:55.12 | Bagginsww | last one from this book |
| 01:55.22 | Bagginsww | Wdr |
| 01:55.32 | g0urra | Waddler |
| 01:55.42 | Bagginsww | Wind rider |
| 01:55.46 | g0urra | bah |
| 01:55.58 | Bagginsww | you know them from War3, ;) |
| 01:56.22 | g0urra | yeah but I've never seen them as Wdr |
| 01:56.35 | Bagginsww | well not like we abbreviate things much either LOL |
| 01:56.47 | Bagginsww | still I'd probably be just as confused as you :p |
| 01:56.57 | Bagginsww | World reaver? |
| 01:57.07 | Kirkburn|afk | kd3, thanks |
| 01:57.58 | Kirkburn|afk | (he's watching us, silently :P ) |
| 01:58.05 | Bagginsww | anycase I think Wdr was a choice made because it miay overlap with something else otherwise |
| 01:58.39 | Bagginsww | ok the MMO classes |
| 01:58.44 | Bagginsww | Mge |
| 01:58.57 | Bagginsww | Wrl |
| 02:01.38 | Bagginsww | Drd |
| 02:01.59 | Bagginsww | Pre |
| 02:02.13 | Bagginsww | Sha |
| 02:02.32 | Bagginsww | Hnt |
| 02:02.54 | Bagginsww | Pal |
| 02:03.12 | Bagginsww | Rog |
| 02:03.34 | Bagginsww | War |
| 02:04.17 | Bagginsww | ok that's all of em. |
| 02:04.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Mge reminds of the way I saw a sign shorten my home town: Sawbridgeworth --> Sawbridgew'th |
| 02:05.13 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 02:06.53 | Bagginsww | what's the interlink to wikipedia comand? |
| 02:07.10 | g0urra | [[wikipedia:<article>|<name>]] ? |
| 02:07.23 | g0urra | also Bagginsww: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Gourra/Sandbox/4 |
| 02:07.33 | g0urra | I prefer the way it is now. :P |
| 02:07.52 | Bagginsww | I prefer the two letter abreviations too |
| 02:08.13 | Bagginsww | although I kinda like the lower cass Dk beter |
| 02:08.16 | Bagginsww | *better |
| 02:08.38 | Bagginsww | i mean one has to be stupid to think that means Dknut |
| 02:08.39 | g0urra | just do s/beter/better/ :P |
| 02:08.43 | g0urra | hehe |
| 02:09.03 | g0urra | at least you won't have to deal with the danish kids creating their Dkcooldk |
| 02:09.09 | Bagginsww | or deathknight :p |
| 02:09.14 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 02:09.35 | Bagginsww | most people know right way what dk stands for and it doesn't make me think of one word :p |
| 02:09.57 | pcj | Donkey Kong |
| 02:10.09 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 02:10.13 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 02:10.56 | Bagginsww | so what's the interlink command to wikipedia? |
| 02:10.58 | Bagginsww | ok sorry |
| 02:11.00 | Bagginsww | thanks gourra |
| 02:11.03 | Bagginsww | missed it next |
| 02:11.12 | Bagginsww | next to your other link |
| 02:12.09 | g0urra | hmm 9,157 edits..maybe I'll break the 10k mark tomorrow |
| 02:12.23 | g0urra | well technically it's today, since it's 4:11am |
| 02:14.43 | g0urra | gnight |
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| 02:26.50 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Classnav#Dk_vs_DK |
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| 02:41.02 | Charitwo | hi |
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| 06:15.08 | Arcanedeath | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki:Community_portal&diff=prev&oldid=48591 |
| 06:15.15 | Arcanedeath | What happened to that guy? |
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| 07:12.16 | Kirkburn | Major earthquake in China ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7395496.stm |
| 07:12.48 | Kirkburn | 7.8 on the richter scale |
| 07:24.14 | Fisker- | bah |
| 07:24.32 | Fisker- | i just thought it told us to take unnessecary risks and infringe the laws |
| 07:24.32 | Fisker- | :D |
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| 10:16.29 | Kirkburn | o_O http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template%3AUser_Sunwell&diff=1362693&oldid=1342856 |
| 10:18.43 | Fisker- | :D |
| 10:18.51 | Fisker- | get glasses jerkburn |
| 10:18.52 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 10:20.19 | Kirkburn | :O |
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| 10:57.12 | Kirkburn | Need a admin volunteer! |
| 10:57.17 | Kirkburn | Who's around, Adys? |
| 10:57.31 | Adys | yea |
| 10:57.42 | Adys | watcha need? going to eat very soon |
| 10:57.47 | Kirkburn | Can you look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Userrights |
| 10:58.00 | Kirkburn | Tell me what you see |
| 10:58.14 | Adys | You do not have permission to do that, for the following reason: |
| 10:58.14 | Adys | Your account does not have permission to assign user rights. |
| 10:58.18 | Adys | (brb quick) |
| 10:58.19 | Kirkburn | okay, thanks |
| 10:58.25 | Kirkburn | That's all :) |
| 10:58.29 | Kirkburn | Enjoy food. |
| 10:59.44 | Adys | Microsoft Active Server Pages (ASP)-style tags â the shorter version of the PHP tags â are no longer supported. To make sure this is not an issue for your scripts, verify that you aren't using the <% or %> tags in your PHP files. Replace them with <?php and ?>. |
| 10:59.48 | Adys | about fucking time |
| 10:59.48 | Adys | brb |
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| 15:43.07 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Arcane_guardian |
| 15:48.02 | Kaso | i dont see what he's on about |
| 15:48.14 | Kaso | the setup of the two articles seems correct as it is to me |
| 15:50.44 | Bagginsww | yes |
| 15:51.09 | Bagginsww | I mean the only way I'd say he was right is if we did away with capitalized articles altogether |
| 15:51.22 | Bagginsww | because mob names are rarely capitalized within quest text |
| 15:51.55 | Bagginsww | then we could just mention within the lower cased article that a mob of name, "Arcane Guardians" exists |
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| 16:02.10 | g0urra | baggins could you move "Death Knight sets" to "Death knight sets"? |
| 16:02.32 | g0urra | s/baggins/Bagginsww/ |
| 16:02.47 | Bagginsww | sure, but remind me later |
| 16:02.52 | g0urra | ok |
| 16:02.57 | Bagginsww | kinda studying right now :p |
| 16:03.12 | Bagginsww | on wikipedia and school library site :p |
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| 16:57.05 | Ose | Viva Italia! |
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| 18:55.32 | Ose | ping Kirkburn? |
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| 19:25.45 | Ose | argh... |
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| 19:28.09 | Dan_Lewis | Hola all. |
| 19:30.34 | Ose | Hola Kaltes |
| 19:30.59 | Kaltes | How is everyone? |
| 19:31.53 | g0urra | Good, you Kaltes? |
| 19:32.27 | Kaltes | Ok so far me thinks. :) Just hope tonight is better after fire drill. |
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