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00:34.18ArcanedeathI think http://www.wowwiki.com/Multiphase_Spectrographic_Goggles has the wrong item id XD
00:35.48Bagginswwwas the original raise dead in warcraft II an AOE spell or a single cast spell?
00:35.56BagginswwI mean single target
00:36.13Arcanedeathfixed
00:43.11Arcanedeathover 10,000 http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Editcount?username=arcanebot
00:43.13Arcanedeathwoot
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00:47.16ArcanedeathI'm on the last category of items
01:00.33Adyshttp://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/09/safari-search-plugin-inquisitor-acquired-by-yahoo/
01:05.35Charitwoew safari
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01:23.12Sandwichman2448Citation is good.
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01:31.51KeolahMy grandmother asked me "What've you been up to today?" I replied, "Well, my dwarf paladin almost has enough badges of justice for a nice new item." She didn't care.
01:34.46Arcanedeath:O how terrible
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01:35.21ArcanedeathMy grandmother woud think I was talking about people with a growth problem
01:36.10FullDolphinXknows he missed something.
01:37.13Arcanedeathgah I forgot about back items
01:37.19g0urraYou missed the water tank and landed on IRC.
01:37.41ArcanedeathI forgot about back items with mah scriptz
01:37.51KeolahSnicker.
01:41.47Bagginswwsandwhich citation of what?
01:41.56BagginswwI mean agree, but what were you referring to?
01:41.58FullDolphinXEverything.
01:42.16ArcanedeathI can't wait to show off the new category tree ^_^
01:42.25FullDolphinXNew WotLK info and Vandalism.
01:43.12Arcanedeath!arcanebot edit "Portal:Main" replace * with "OMG Pwned."
01:44.33LukianKeolah, hahahahhaha
01:44.58Bagginswwhmm we could shrink some of the main class pages by splitting off subtopics like "druid forms" or "mage abilities"
01:45.15Bagginswwas long as the main page contains links to those topics then there isn't any problems
01:45.46ArcanedeathI'm in favor of larger articles with more information, lets put all mage items on the mage page
01:46.14Bagginswwsothat it can take a day to load for people stupid enough to have dial up!!!
01:47.54FullDolphinXHmm...
01:49.16FullDolphinXThen the different mechanic pages for each class would get nonconformist.
01:49.52FullDolphinXOne group of things not like another. How much splitting is needed?
01:51.23Bagginsww<PROTECTED>
01:51.33Bagginswwwith just a link to the expanded version
01:52.00Bagginswwsomething along the lines that we did with zone quest pages
01:52.03FullDolphinXMay become a mess.
01:52.16Bagginswwnot messy, just need to be adjusted
01:52.22FullDolphinXK
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01:52.25Bagginswwit would actually look cleaner than we currently have it
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01:54.03Bagginswwe already have ability pages some of the classes already
01:54.07Bagginsw*for
01:54.13Bagginswas seperate pages
01:54.35ArcanedeathGah my ingenious template loop idea phailed
01:56.24Bagginswthe death knight needs an evil aoe whirlwind spell :)
01:57.03Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Deathknight
01:57.06Arcanedeaththat guy?
01:59.44Bagginswwas speaking of the hero class
01:59.53Bagginswmost of its abilities come from WArcraft II and III
01:59.59Bagginswbut its missing some of them
02:00.02Bagginswfrom both
02:00.13Bagginswlike unholy aura, unholy armor, and whirlwind
02:00.21g0urraquestion, should t:classnav use DK or Dk?
02:00.25BagginswMages already got haste
02:00.30BagginswI'd go with Dk
02:00.33g0urrak
02:00.38Lukian<Aokromes> http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=259k5eqma5.png
02:00.39Lukianahahah
02:00.41ArcanedeathId go with dK
02:01.14BagginswWhile I'm certain when you go to choose your character its going to be called a Death Knight, that's for "title purposes" all the lore when you class is mentioned will likely be lower case
02:01.27Bagginswlike it is on the website currently
02:01.34ArcanedeathI want to make a deathknight
02:01.50BagginswI want a Corpseknight
02:02.00ArcanedeathCan back items have an armor type?
02:02.07g0urrano
02:02.17Arcanedeathgah some did and it messed me up
02:02.30ArcanedeathI need to delete those bogus categories then XD
02:02.31g0urraafaik it used to be cloth, but blizzard changed it
02:02.35Arcanedeathkk
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02:06.56glacialfuryI have a question about WoW under wine/linux - where's the best place to ask it?  It is not covered by the guide on wowwiki.
02:07.54Arcanedeath#wine ?
02:08.15glacialfuryThey were not sympathetic.
02:08.18Arcanedeathlol
02:08.38Arcanedeathsearch googles
02:09.10Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine
02:10.30glacialfuryquote: It is not covered by the guide on wowwiki. ;-)
02:10.43glacialfuryMay have found something in old section of winehq db though
02:12.42Arcanedeathoh oops
02:20.43Lukianglacialfury, sup?
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02:24.34glacialfuryLukian, sorry for the delay; fixed the problem.
02:25.19Lukianglacialfury, yeah that's usually why there's no help ;)
02:25.34Lukianthe issues just take a little bit of effort on your part to solve :D
02:26.45glacialfuryUnfortunately, it's a fairly rare problem, so there are little resources.  I'm not a novice googler ;-)
02:26.59glacialfuryLooks like WoW itself built in some new options to counter it though.
02:27.25glacialfurythe game vanishes into the background when you alt-tab out of it; continues to run, but is inaccessible.
02:27.47glacialfuryso the workaround is to have it run in windowed mode, at the full resolution of the monitor, and prevent it from being resized
02:27.57kd3meh, put it in a wine virtual desktop
02:28.03kd3fullscreen in that
02:28.31Lukian<kd3> meh, put it in a wine virtual desktop <- yes, if you alt+tab in that though, it disappears
02:28.37Lukianie. you use wine to run multiple apps
02:28.52Lukianglacialfury, yeah I run it in windowed mode, performance is 'fine' for me
02:29.17kd3meh, I've got several wine vdesktops up
02:29.28kd3http://wowwiki.pastey.net/87617
02:30.03kd3not very documented, but most of my apps are started from shellscripts like that. change the param after the /desktop= bit and you'll spawn a new window
02:30.40Lukianah I never knew that :)
02:30.41Lukianhandy
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02:31.04kd3indeed
02:31.38Lukianexample? (specifically with resolution if possible)
02:32.41kd3http://wowwiki.pastey.net/87618
02:32.58Lukianawesome :)
02:33.31LukianI think you included your username in that one :o
02:33.34Lukianhaha
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02:35.54kd3ya. play around with it. you can run multiple apps, but I still can't get more than one copy of wow to run at the same time.
02:44.10arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special%3ACategoryTree&target=Category%3AWorld_of_Warcraft_items_by_type_and_slot&mode=categories&dotree=Show+Tree
02:44.13arcanedeathpwnt
02:48.47glacialfuryok, new wow problem
02:49.08glacialfuryusing the windowed method - maybe the virtual desktop fixes this - but it's not capturing shift/control/etc properly
02:49.21glacialfuryso when I shift+click, it only registers the click
02:50.11kd3make sure your WM isn't binding shift-click, it'll take it before wow sees it
02:50.24glacialfuryhmm
02:50.27glacialfurygood point
02:51.00kd3'cause I ran in to that a lot with alt-clicking in xfce
02:52.09arcanedeath12,000 edits ftw
02:52.10arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Editcount
02:56.53Lukiankd3, hmm strange, I was able to run two copies of wow just using wine wow.exe
02:57.04LukianI assume you mean via your script? :D
02:57.53kd3meh, if I run a wow and a wow2, I get alternating frames... wow1 gets a frame, then wow2... it's really, really jittery
02:58.02Lukianouch
02:58.15Lukianhmm it doesn't seem to be taking the resolution
02:58.31Lukianon the upside, hl2 seems to be automatically resizing it :)
02:58.33kd3make sure you have it set in your config.wtf, wow doesn't have any idea about that
02:58.55kd3or if there's a commandline arg for wow, add it to the script
02:58.59Lukianwow is fine, I run it at my normal resolution :D
02:58.59kd3dunno if there is...
02:59.16Lukianjust not hl2 atm, trying to fiddle with performance
03:02.19glacialfuryok, can't find any key binding that would interfere with that - this script would bypass any window manager keybindings, or no?
03:02.26kd3nope
03:02.33glacialfuryhmm
03:02.37glacialfurythat is upsetting
03:02.45kd3kde? gnome? xfce?
03:02.51glacialfurygnome with compiz
03:03.25kd3fire up ccsm or emerald-theme-manager and check in there?
03:03.39kd3wait... you'll have ccsm, but not emerald
03:03.49glacialfuryGone through all enabled keybindings in compiz. Not using emerald.
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03:39.03Bagginswhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:General_Turalyon eh...
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03:45.45Bagginswhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Lady_Mara_Fordragon eh these can b redirected to their related person...
04:01.00Bagginsw50 BTFT - 25 ATFT
04:01.17BagginswI wonder what kind of time reference that is?
04:02.46pcjbagginsw: 50 years before the frozen throne - 25 years after the frozen throne
04:02.57Bagginswwhich doesn't make sense LOL
04:03.11Bagginswthe game is only like 4-6 years after tft
04:03.25pcjwhere are you seeing it
04:03.47BagginswHoratio Montgomery, M.D.
04:04.03Bagginswbtw I think coobra's object pages are just going to cause confusion...
04:04.18Bagginswthe ones that share the same names as other character pages
04:05.13pcjprobably
04:06.00Bagginswhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Ranger_Captain_Alleria_Windrunner, http://www.wowwiki.com/King_Llane_I_of_the_House_of_Wrynn, http://www.wowwiki.com/General_Turalyon, http://www.wowwiki.com/Grand_Admiral_Daelin_Proudmoore
04:06.21BagginswI say merge them and just comment that its an object on the page
04:06.41Bagginswthe redirect can be categorized.
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05:20.06Bagginsww_honestly presumed classes should never come before official clases :p
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05:41.46VvWolverinevVyow, has S4 started yet?
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05:58.54OlisonNo
05:59.05OlisonOh, too late :<
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07:07.43Bagginsww_http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Manga#Manga:_A_linguistic_perspecitve
07:07.47Bagginsww_GG :P
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09:45.43Bagginswwand then the fight for the class nav begins :p
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13:21.38Lukiannext patch
13:21.46Lukianhow diff from your team rating can your personal be?
13:29.16Kalroth150
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15:36.58g0urraso is the hero class supposed to be "Death knight" or "Death Knight"?
15:39.09kd3I think we're calling it the "death knight" for now, much like how all other classes/races are lowercase. "mage", "gnome", etc...
15:39.54Fisker-so whats teh sekrit new insider info kd3 ?
15:40.22kd3dunno yet. still trying to work through the email backlog... ~500 emails down, ~1200 to go
15:40.50Fisker-i'm trying to not die from this heat :(
15:41.33Fisker-though i keep having this dream of someone telling me to give up on french
15:41.54g0urrathe thing is that all the other classes aren't in lower case ("Starting a Hunter" for example)
15:41.54kd3ouch... only 22c here. we're just waiting for the nasty thunderstorms to start in a few hours
15:41.56kd3lol
15:42.07kd3bah
15:42.16kd3opens up some more tabs on the wiki
15:42.17Fisker-22c IS hot for me
15:42.23Fisker-i seriously can't take hot weather
15:42.23Fisker-:(
15:42.53g0urraI'm going to need an admin to move "Starting a death knight" and "Death Knight sets" to "Starting a Death knight" and "Death knight sets", respectively
15:43.19Fisker-shouldn't it be Death Knight?
15:43.21Fisker-rawr
15:43.38g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Death_knight&diff=1359730&oldid=1359718
15:43.42g0urraappearantly not
15:49.40Fisker-i just did stuff
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15:56.02ArcanedeathIs this the same kd3 from the UI and Macros forum?
15:57.48Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:World_of_Warcraft_items_by_slot http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:World_of_Warcraft_items_by_type http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:World_of_Warcraft_items_by_type_and_slot
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15:58.34kd3ya
15:59.31Arcanedeathbye
15:59.39Fisker-i had luls btw kd3
15:59.50Fisker-someone claimed that Blizzard didn't do shit about goldspammers
15:59.58Fisker-and suggested you should be able to mute goldspammers by reporting them
16:00.02Fisker-(i.e. report spam :DDD)
16:00.21Fisker-After i totally raped him in arguments he kept following my posts quoting me and writing "FANBOY ALERT" :D
16:06.20kd3lol
16:15.58Fisker-btw
16:16.00Fisker-ding 22000g
16:22.17Kasoonly 10x more to go and you can cap out the int32_t that represents gold :>
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16:56.34Fisker-slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout
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16:58.03kd3takes the trout away from fisker
16:58.22Fisker-nooo
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18:32.09DottedFisker- HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR? HVOR?
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19:08.58Dotted[Fisker-]: someone claimed that Blizzard didn't do shit about goldspammers
19:09.09Fisker-topics were deleted
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19:09.57ArcanedeathI remember someone posted in Warcraft pump about being hacked or something like that
19:10.16Arcanedeathhe got a reply saying blizzard wouldn't do anything and to contact the bbb!
19:10.17Arcanedeathlol
19:10.54Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Warcraft_pump#Forum_Ban.3F
19:11.35Fisker-bbb?
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20:00.32KasoAdys, are you around that i can poke you
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20:09.49Adysyou can poke me now
20:09.57Kasotoo late now
20:10.01Adysno its not)
20:10.02Kasoi worked it out my own!
20:10.02Adyspoke me
20:10.06Kasopokes adys
20:10.08arcanedeath<PROTECTED>
20:10.09Adysthanks
20:10.41arcanedeathI reworked the armor category trees and nobody even noticed
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22:46.07ArcanedeathLol coobra is decapitilizing all the death knights
22:56.22g0urraChange it to decapitating and you have the Headless Horseman!
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23:05.20Arcanedeathlol
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23:19.03g0urra"Death Coil - Unleashed all runic power you have, [..] healing up to 900 damage to a friendly undead target."
23:19.08g0urraI don't understand this.
23:19.40g0urraIs it supposed to heal only the ghoul you raise?
23:24.19Arcanedeathecho 'hai'
23:29.14Kasog0urra, probally, though i bet you'll see a raid boss with an undead friendly which requires DKs to heal also ;0
23:29.38g0urrahmmm interesting.
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23:56.49ArcanedeathI own the channel wowiki

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