IRC log for #wowwiki on 20080510

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00:25.05ArcanedeathHow does this look? http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Abjurer%27s_Pants&diff=1350235&oldid=1321532
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00:36.14ArcanedeathG0urra, how does this look? http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Abjurer%27s_Pants&diff=1350235&oldid=1321532
00:36.25ArcanedeathI am creating the categories in a second
00:36.54g0urraI don't know, I can't connect to anything but irc and sites from my country
00:37.07Arcanedeath?
00:37.14ArcanedeathIt is a wowwiki
00:37.19Arcanedeathlink
00:37.26ArcanedeathA website
00:37.36DottedArcanedeath you nub
00:37.44g0urrayes and it's database it's outside my country.
00:37.45ArcanedeathWhat?
00:37.46DottedI can't connect to anything but irc and sites from my country
00:37.46g0urraits*
00:38.05Dottedthat means g0urra is only access swedish based websites
00:38.30Dotted(and man does that suck)
00:38.36g0urrayeah I know
00:38.44Dottedtried it myself :(
00:38.45ArcanedeathWhat? isn't WoWwiki's database server-side? And I thought teh interwebz were international
00:38.56DottedOMFG
00:38.58ArcanedeathI mean the client doesn't connect to the db
00:39.03g0urrafacepalms
00:39.05g0urraanyway.
00:39.14ArcanedeathYOu mean it's server is
00:39.20Arcanedeathnot database
00:39.29g0urraI lost my connection around midnight..and only now I found out I can only connect to swedish websites
00:39.32Arcanedeathsorry I didn't get that
00:39.35ArcanedeathOh, I see
00:39.57g0urrait means no google, facebook, wowwiki, myspace, msn, no nothing
00:39.59ArcanedeathIs sweden completly disconnected or can you use a proxy?
00:40.19Dottedman you are slow Arcanedeath :P
00:40.23Arcanedeathwait it couldn't be completly disconnected
00:40.28Arcanedeath<PROTECTED>
00:40.33Arcanedeathtoo much caffeine
00:40.39ArcanedeathXD
00:40.41Dottedor too little?
00:42.26ArcanedeathI can't find anything on it...
00:42.42g0urraI'll restart my connection brb (I hope)
00:43.25Dottedoff to bed, nn
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00:43.54ArcanedeathYou guys threw me off when you said "database" instead of "server", they are two very different things
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00:50.38Arcanedeaththings are goinf fine so far...
00:50.42Arcanedeathgoing*
00:51.25ArcanedeathIf anyone here does have interwebz :P http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Arcanebot
00:52.17ArcanedeathWhy do we have a "hand" category AND a "hands" category?
00:52.26g0urrayeah I still don't have it
00:52.34Arcanedeathoh well
00:52.39g0urraI"ll go back to the hockey game
00:52.42ArcanedeathMaybe it's your ISP
00:52.51g0urraprobably
00:52.54Arcanedeathnot the country as a whole
00:54.23ArcanedeathNice, it's starded on items and everythings going well. It will take a day or two though...
00:54.28Arcanedeathstarted*
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01:25.22g0urrayay internet works again
01:25.31g0urra...after 3.5 hours
01:25.38g0urra...and I probably should be sleeping
01:25.46g0urra...or continue watch the hockey game
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02:13.39ArcanedeathAny complaints about bot?
02:14.39Arcanedeathgood good
02:16.54ArcanedeathHow often do Categories updat?
02:16.57Arcanedeathupdate*
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02:50.32ArcanedeathIt appears some armor articles are missing the type of armor they are
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03:01.44Mmorozhi! pcj, i wanted to ask u a question, if ur around and have a minute..
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03:03.34pcjok Mmoroz
03:04.06ArcanedeathDoes skinning a bear agro every bears?
03:04.28pcjOnly during maintenance
03:04.38Mmorozpcj: thank you so much for writing the AJAX rc-refresh script
03:04.47Mmorozi'm trying to modify it for my needs, and wanted to ask u for advice
03:04.51pcjlol
03:04.52pcjok
03:05.11Mmorozbasically, i'm trying to create a custom version of Recent Changes, where each user is only shown once
03:05.16Mmorozordered by the time of first-ever edit
03:05.28pcjuh
03:05.36Mmorozthis would be something like a "new user log" for me (which functionality doesn't exist in wikia)
03:05.59pcjDo you have access to the back-end PHP script?
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03:06.17Mmoroznope, i dont have access to anything...
03:06.31Mmorozonly just installed ur script to my own /global.js (it works great)
03:06.51Mmorozand i dont even know javascript, just java/perl/c, but if u say it's doable, i'll play with it till i figure out JS
03:07.01pcjOK, that would be better extended from Special:Activeusers than RC
03:07.03WhiteRabier, whats doable?
03:07.21Mmorozoh, but ActiveUsers won't show anonymous users
03:07.29Mmorozwhile if filtering RC, i would see them
03:07.40pcjYeah, filtering RC is gonna be tough
03:07.48MmorozWhiteRabi: just asking if i could modify pcj's RC refresh script to function as "new user log" ^^
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03:08.02WhiteRabiyou just lost me..
03:08.07WhiteRabithat teaches me for asking!
03:08.16Mmoroz^^
03:08.32Mmorozin JS, isnt it possible to just define a hash table
03:08.40Mmorozand fill it with user names from RC
03:08.43WhiteRabiI am a PHP god.. uh, perl wizard.. ruby/python tinkerer.. and some other stuff
03:08.43Mmorozand times of edits
03:08.50Mmorozand then simply print that out to screen?
03:09.01WhiteRabihell I dont know, I have javascript
03:09.09pcjYeah, but it would be the user names already on RC, not forever
03:09.14MmorozWhiteRabi: i'm trying to creaet a special filtered view of RC
03:09.30MmorozWhiteRabi: where each user is only mentioned once.. on the first date/time he ever made a contribution
03:09.31WhiteRabiwhat is this.. "RC"?
03:09.38MmorozWhiteRabi: Recent Changes screen
03:09.38ArcanedeathRecent changes
03:09.41WhiteRabiah
03:09.50Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Recentchanges
03:09.54WhiteRabihaha ah crap you all actually talk about related topics.
03:10.32WhiteRabihrm, maybe I should join #latex and be like "This is so hot.."
03:10.45Mmorozbut because i'm totally clueless about PHP & Javascript, i dont even know if what i'm trying to do is possible
03:10.45ArcanedeathWhat is #latex?
03:10.47pcj...
03:10.49WhiteRabiand start talking about how I like latex and such.. and see how long it takes for them to say something
03:10.50Arcanedeathballoons?
03:11.52Mmorozpcj: but RC , if set to display 10,000 or whatever number of lines, would contain most users who contributed in the last few months
03:12.04Mmorozpcj: so for my purposes (on the small wiki) it's enough
03:12.05pcjif your wiki is small
03:12.10pcjin addition loading time would suck
03:12.19pcjand your browser would probably explode
03:12.31Mmorozwell, i display 5000 lines, and my browser didnt even blink
03:12.34Mmorozlet me try 10k
03:12.43pcjYeah, I mean when you put JS on to process it
03:13.43Mmorozoooh i see...
03:13.57Mmorozwell, what if I store the already-known users in a small file
03:14.28Mmorozso that JS would just process the 500 lines or so, and just ignore those known users
03:14.30pcjthen your js would have to load the file...
03:15.03Mmorozoh and security settings wouldn't let it probably
03:15.48Mmorozwell, i could live with a slow browser.. it still beats having to manually scroll through 1000's of lines of RC, looking for red "Talk" links, etc
03:16.31Mmorozso other than performance issues, u say it would work?
03:17.15pcjI'm saying performance issues would kill it, but you could write code which would be designed to work
03:17.21Mmorozof course, if this could be done server-side, thru MediaWiki extension or something, it would be so much better, but that choice isnt available :)
03:17.51Mmorozhmmm i'm even willing to hard-code the registered users once in a while into the js code
03:18.00Mmorozand then display the last 1000 lines or so, filtered to exclude those guys
03:18.24Mmoroz1000 lines hopefully isnt gonna be too hard to filter through?
03:18.43pcjeven finding a user in a rc entry and matching it against an array of 100 users is going to be pretty taxing
03:18.59Mmorozoooh wow.. i didn't know that
03:19.34Mmorozso your script doesn't have to do any heavy-duty computation then, i suppose? because i just checked and it works fine on 5000-size RC page
03:19.52pcjYeah it just looks for the start and end and updates
03:20.30Mmorozi see... well, so it'll pretty much freeze my firefox while it goes through the initial info on the page... i can live with that too
03:20.43Mmorozbut after 2-3 minutes, it'll unfreeze, and then will just need to look at new lines in RC
03:21.03Mmorozwhich only occur at most once a minute on our wiki (usually once per 10 min)
03:21.59Mmorozjs script *can* just grab a new line from RC, parse it, and display (or not) depending on parse results?
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03:45.22Mmorozoh a better way is probably just grab the RC using any (non-browser) interface, and then process the result locally in perl or whatever
03:45.28Bagginsww_umm fandy's changes to height and weight are misleading
03:45.36Bagginsww_all the races given are "player races" in the rpg
03:45.46Bagginsww_that's the only reason they have such detailed vital lists
03:50.04Mmorozpcj: thx for ur feedback.. i'll probably just give up on JS then, and go with a standalone perl program that connects to the RC thru some perl -> http interface
03:58.15Arcanedeathis now known as kirkburn
03:59.05pcj...
03:59.10Arcanedeathlol
03:59.26ArcanedeathDon't laugh at me I just thought of that
04:07.05Bagginsww_http://www.wowwiki.com/Height
04:07.08Bagginsww_he dstill doesn't get it
04:11.29Bagginsww_http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Fandyllic#More_Vital_Statistics
04:14.28Bagginsww_I don't see kirkburn...
04:14.45Arcanedeathchange your nick to kirkburn then
04:14.55Arcanedeaththen you will see him
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04:20.39Bagginsww_just wondering why he isn't logged in
04:30.39arcanedeathOh, sky is here.
04:30.44arcanedeathpind sky2042
04:30.47arcanedeathping*
04:32.11WhiteRabiarcanedeath.. you fail.
04:32.25arcanedeathI press enter too fast
04:32.29arcanedeathgo away
04:35.20arcanedeathsky2042 you there?
04:36.37WhiteRabino
04:36.40WhiteRabihe isnt
04:36.54arcanedeath...
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04:52.10arcanedeathHello
04:52.15arcanedeathrunning bot
04:52.33arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Arcanebot
04:52.57arcanedeathSome articles are missing a armor type category
04:53.52Sky2042is the bot ignoring those articles?
04:54.04arcanedeathYes.
04:54.17arcanedeathThey will need to be manually fixed
04:54.21Sky2042Yes.
04:54.37Sky2042not a hard thing; we'll know exactly which.
04:55.16arcanedeathThis is taking a while, I have already gotten through legs articles though
04:55.41Sky2042arcanedeath: is your bot making the categories?
04:55.53arcanedeathalready did
04:56.08Sky2042the bot did?
04:56.16arcanedeathyes
04:56.24arcanedeathBefore it ran
04:57.05Sky2042Is there anyway to apply an edit like so: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category:World_of_Warcraft_leather_legs_items&curid=170155&diff=1352298&oldid=1351537 ?
04:58.00arcanedeathYes, I can go through them and do that afterwards
04:58.13arcanedeathbookmarked
04:58.21Sky2042Ty.
04:58.55Sky2042This is already shaping up nicely; the changes are taking categories of |----------------------| this size to categories of |-------| this size.
05:01.13Sky2042I got a brand new bicycle today.
05:03.05*** join/#wowwiki Arcanedeath (n=Arcanede@unaffiliated/arcanedeath)
05:04.01Sky2042Arcanedeath: just run that change on the "merged" categories.
05:05.00Arcanedeathok
05:05.46Arcanedeathgrats on the bycicle
05:06.00Sky2042Yeah, I know.
05:06.04Sky2042thanks =)
05:06.23Sky2042what were the bugs you had to work out?
05:06.57ArcanedeathOh, just some bugs with the code. I also had to make it stop editing categories
05:07.31Sky2042What kind of bugs? xD
05:07.42Arcanedeathsyntax errors and the like
05:07.51Sky2042aha
05:08.05ArcanedeathI posted it before testing
05:08.18Sky2042Yeah, but I couldn't access it for whatever reason :/
05:09.17ArcanedeathI'll give you the newest version.
05:10.20Sky2042(Like I could read it. I could of course pretend to understand the faintest item of it...)
05:10.21Arcanedeathhttp://pastebin.com/m65b88ae0
05:11.09Sky2042hmm, how come you have the category code in there still?
05:11.31Arcanedeathbecause it ran first?
05:11.39Arcanedeaththen the script keeps running
05:11.44Sky2042ah
05:12.02Sky2042wouldn't it be more efficient to run one script, then the other?
05:12.09Sky2042(yay for newbie questions ;P )
05:12.25Sky2042as separate scripts*
05:12.40ArcanedeathDoesn't really matter significantly in terms of efficiency
05:12.58Arcanedeathslightly more data loaded into ram
05:13.48Sky2042You got through all the legs items?
05:14.01Arcanedeathyes
05:14.53Sky2042ugh, i'ma have to actually lookup tooltip usage for the first time in ages.
05:15.52ArcanedeathWhy do none of the category tooltips work?
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05:16.20ArcanedeathWhy is there a hands category and a hand category
05:16.20Sky2042"This category has no items in it" that one?
05:16.32Sky2042because one of them is incorrect and one of them is not.
05:16.53Arcanedeathyes to the former
05:17.01Sky2042the correct is "hands"
05:17.25Sky2042Should've warned you about that :/
05:17.33ArcanedeathI'll go fic it when I'm done
05:17.34Sky2042there's a couple other categories with that issue.
05:17.40Arcanedeathfix*
05:17.51Sky2042they're supposed to be named to what there is on the tooltip, not by any other method.
05:18.06Sky2042and that wasn't accounted for to begin with.
05:18.12Sky2042"Oops"
05:18.14Sky2042^^
05:25.25WhiteRabiAh Sky is here!!!
05:25.37WhiteRabi>_<
05:25.37Sky2042Uh oh.
05:25.42Sky2042You betcha =)
05:25.49Arcanedeathkilled bot, what is it?
05:26.01Sky2042Arcanedeath: hmm?
05:26.06ArcanedeathYou said uh oh
05:26.17Sky2042Oh, lol, just in response to mr Rabi.
05:26.22Arcanedeathok, scared me
05:26.33WhiteRabilol
05:27.19Sky2042I told you, this is my wikia haunt, did I not?
05:27.51Sky2042Or myabe different person.
05:28.15WhiteRabiwait.. what?
05:28.32Arcanedeathis now known as Sky2042
05:28.45Sky2042is now known as Arcanedeath.
05:29.05WhiteRabilies.
05:31.18ArcanedeathWhiteRabi, you stil in #php
05:31.33ArcanedeathI just escaped from somebody there
05:31.59WhiteRabihahahaha
05:32.08WhiteRabiyeah
05:32.17WhiteRabiI am in #php, #perl, #ruby-lang, #wowace and here.
05:32.27WhiteRabihrm, could have joined python too.. didnt feel like it
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05:33.33ArcanedeathHe wanted to do something he didn't have the technical knowledge for and said his "life" depended on it
05:34.11Sky2042Arcanedeath: legs is cleared
05:34.13Sky2042=)
05:35.08Arcanedeathyays
05:37.19Sky2042beats whiterabi for having his channels privated >:(
05:38.37WhiteRabilol
05:40.33WhiteRabiok try that Sky2042
05:40.47Sky2042...
05:40.50Sky2042You need to be shot.
05:40.58WhiteRabiYour face does
05:41.17Sky2042(I was going to say something about Rabis, but that might get me hurt.(
05:41.18ArcanedeathWhy does my irc client only show one of the channels he is in?
05:41.39Sky2042Arcanedeath: because his client has a setting that makes it so, prolly :P
05:41.48Arcanedeathna it does it with everyone
05:41.52Arcanedeathwhen I /who them
05:41.53WhiteRabiyou mean.. mIRC? oh noessss
05:41.56WhiteRabiwell you fail
05:41.59Sky2042hmm
05:42.02ArcanedeathI use X-Chat actually
05:42.08ArcanedeathX-chat aqua
05:43.24Sky2042hmm, arcanedeath, have you had a look at the python-wikipedia bot framework?
05:43.36ArcanedeathNo.
05:43.49Sky2042maybe should do that, if you can program in it.
05:44.30ArcanedeathI don't know python well enough yet
05:45.00Sky2042Ah.
05:45.25Sky2042Eh, basically anyone can run it if they get a little troubleshooting help.
05:48.16Sky2042welll, huh
05:48.24Arcanedeathhuh
05:48.53WhiteRabiArcanedeath - go with ruby.. its a bit more simplistic.. may not make you cry.
05:49.33ArcanedeathActually I have never coded a line of python before. I read a tutorial and I liked the syntax.
05:49.44ArcanedeathJust need to get around to it
05:49.59WhiteRabiDO IT
05:50.26Arcanedeathbut php is the next big thing
05:50.29Arcanedeathright?
05:50.40Arcanedeathor maybe it was the last big thing humm
05:50.47Sky2042next
05:51.01Mmorozah pcj, can i ask you one more thing.. your RC-refresh javascript, does it download the whole page every time it  refreshes, or it somehow just grabs the incremental portion (i.e., only the new changes that happened in the last refresh period)?
05:54.51WhiteRabidont worry Arcanedeath - i'll make a framework for special education folks so you can easily mess with the intertubes
05:55.05Arcanedeath...
05:55.12ArcanedeathI'll show off to prove myself
05:55.18Sky2042intertubes != internetz.
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05:56.09Arcanedeath!arcanebot changes
05:56.13ArcanebotError: Could not get changes.
05:56.17Arcanedeathwhatz?
05:56.23Arcanedeath-_-
05:56.30Arcanedeaththey changed the html
05:56.40Sky2042Arcanedeath: ?
05:56.50ArcanedeathI need to switch to the api anyways
05:57.01WhiteRabiHAHAHAHA
05:57.09WhiteRabiOh god you showed meeeee!
05:57.09Arcanedeathlol
05:57.22WhiteRabiI have been vanquished!
05:58.24ArcanedeathI can code in php relativley well, actually
05:58.37ArcanedeathI only started coding 2-3 years ago
06:03.36ArcanedeathWhiteRabi? I messaged you...
06:04.40WhiteRabiYeah your "trick" is pure fail.
06:04.43WhiteRabicaptain scooter.
06:06.33Arcanedeathw/e this is a stupid argument over nothing :P
06:07.01WhiteRabiYour mom is a stupid argument!
06:07.26Fisker-pppoe.mtu-net.ru
06:07.29Fisker-http://thingsididlastnight.com/
06:13.08WhiteRabigod, I need to get a better UI..
06:13.15WhiteRabicompilation.. i used to use mazzleui for some reason..
06:21.54Arcanedeathfinished with chest items
06:23.54Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:World_of_Warcraft_chest_items
06:37.57Sky2042arcanedeath, might want to keep a list of categories the bot's finished onwiki somewhere (User:Arcanebot/Finished), and <s> the ones that have been completely deprecated
06:45.26ArcanedeathWe can leave them though.
06:45.34Arcanedeathwith links to the new ones.
06:45.56Sky2042hmm?
06:46.52Arcanedeathso you can go Items > World of warcraft items > World of Warcraft cloth items > World of Warcraft cloth legs items
06:47.16Sky2042wonders if arcanedeath has been talking with zeal somehow...
06:47.25Arcanedeathlol
06:47.45ArcanedeathOr you could go
06:48.00ArcanedeathItems > World of warcraft items > World of Warcraft legs items > World of Warcraft cloth legs items
06:48.44Sky2042sighs at Arcanedeath.
06:48.55Arcanedeathor: Items > World of warcraft items > World of Warcraft cloth items > World of warcraft not cloth items > WOrld of warcraft items > world of warcraft items by type > world of warcraft cloth items > World of Warcraft cloth legs items
06:48.57Sky2042No no no, I'ma beat you upside the head.
06:49.01Arcanedeathlol
06:49.30Arcanedeathitems by type could be nice though
06:49.57Arcanedeathso we didn't have all 32 just sitting in worldofwarcraft items
06:50.19Sky2042Arcanedeath: that's the point with making those changes i suggested.
06:51.28Arcanedeathok
06:52.08Arcanedeaththis is what you did http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category:World_of_Warcraft_leather_legs_items&curid=170155&diff=1352298&oldid=1351537
06:52.48Arcanedeathwe totally deleting [[Category:World of Warcraft legs items]]?
06:52.51Sky2042which secluded the categories, but similarly made it a natural progression from people going through the other categories to get there.
06:52.53Sky2042no.
06:52.57Arcanedeathok
06:53.14Sky2042it will exist as a meta category, as well as a category for items which somehow don't end up with a type.
06:53.22Arcanedeathcan I put them all in [[Category:World of Warcraft items by type]]?
06:53.24Sky2042which happens
06:53.39Arcanedeaththe categories
06:53.54Sky2042the 32? i don't know.
06:54.24Arcanedeathwe have http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:World_of_Warcraft_items_by_raid
06:54.48Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:World_of_Warcraft_items_by_instance
06:54.52Sky2042yes, but it's not just type, it's also by slot.
06:55.39Arcanedeathso what about [[Category:World of Warcraft items by type]], [[Category:World of Warcraft items by slot]], [[Category:World of Warcraft items by type and slot]]
06:56.23Sky2042hmmm, you end up mixing the categorytree that way
06:56.31Sky2042have a look at [[Special:CategoryTree]]
06:57.32ArcanedeathCategory World of Warcraft item not found
06:57.41ArcanedeathCategory Item not found
06:57.46Arcanedeathbroked?
06:57.48Sky2042"Items"
06:57.55Sky2042failsauce, you are young padawan.
06:57.59Arcanedeathsilly me
06:59.59Arcanedeathtry expanding World of Warcraft artifact items
07:00.02Arcanedeathinfinite
07:00.15Sky2042Yeah, it's quite entertaining =0
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07:16.21Sky2042lol, wtf
07:16.37Sky2042armory still has the talent listed as "Incinerate", yet the correct name of the talent is "Incineration"
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07:33.53Sky2042ok, i is for bed nao.
07:34.04Sky2042nite all.
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09:53.21AdysWOW
09:53.24AdysFUCKDUMB
09:53.28Adyshahah
09:53.35Adysmicrosoft advertising campain
09:53.42Adysusing javascript for their adlinks
09:53.57Adysnot even midclickable
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10:11.37VeRiOanyone around?
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12:26.43CorganAdys sucks
12:30.12Fisker-Corgan sucks
12:34.21g0urraFisker- sucks
12:35.55Fisker-your mother :(
12:48.13AdysChanServ sucks
12:48.19Adyslate i know
13:03.35LukianAdys sucks
13:09.12AdysOH NO
13:09.13Adysthe wheel turns again
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13:59.28VelcroManThis might sound dumb.. but how do I enter the Shepherd's Gate into Silvermoon?
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15:06.27soufronhello
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16:56.31Adysslashdot and wikipedia make such good couple.
16:56.33AdysThe Number is 666 in most manuscripts of the New Testament, and in modern translations and critical editions of the Greek text. However, [...] the Book of Revelation (from the 3rd century) used 616. One 11th century manuscript also shows 665.
16:56.43Adysi think it's 65537 but hey
16:58.19ArcanedeathI think it's 6667
16:59.44g0urraI think it's 404
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17:41.53g0urraArcanedeath
17:41.58g0urrayou bot on the wrong account.
17:42.51g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Plate_Armor&action=history
17:43.04g0urraand the RC get swamped with bot edits..
17:44.12Arcanedeaththat is not a bot
17:44.14Arcanedeathall manual
17:44.25ArcanedeathI am fixing some errors which my bot cannot handle
17:44.31g0urraah.
17:44.46g0urraI see you're being fast then
17:44.53ArcanedeathYes
17:45.09ArcanedeathI am just going quickly through tabs
17:45.15g0urra*goes back to boilerplate marking talents*
17:49.18ArcanedeathWish I had faster internet
17:49.22Arcanedeathlike a t1 connection
17:56.46Arcanedeathugh http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category:World_of_Warcraft_hand_items
17:57.03Arcanedeathshould be hands
17:57.21Arcanedeathlets see who we have to blame for it
17:57.36g0urraZeal
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17:58.44Arcanedeathzurr did some too
18:00.23ArcanedeathArcanebot has over 6000 edits woot
18:02.31ArcanedeathDid it go from Armor:plate to Plate_armor to World_of_Warcraft_plate_armor ?
18:22.01foxlitIf people finished debating which categories are good for items, I can fix those relatively quickly :)
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18:22.45Fisker-lols
18:22.47ArcanedeathI am already on it
18:22.49Fisker-T1 isn't fast
18:22.50Fisker-:o
18:22.53Arcanedeathlol
18:23.04Fisker-besides latency is a bigger issue than your upload speed
18:23.49ArcanedeathIt can do a page about every 2 SECONDS
18:23.51Arcanedeathoops caps
18:25.06Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Arcanebot
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18:26.41Sky2042Arcanedeath: you changed the script, i take it?
18:26.59Arcanedeath?
18:27.10ArcanedeathFor what?
18:27.12Sky2042to account for "hand" -> hands and such?
18:27.25ArcanedeathOh I am running a seperate script to fix those
18:27.30Sky2042ah
18:27.54ArcanedeathI also noticed some old stuff in Plate_armor
18:27.57Sky2042and i see the methodology behind "every other"...
18:27.59Sky2042heh
18:28.07Arcanedeathbeen doing some manual editing
18:28.14Sky2042noticed.
18:33.53ArcanedeathSome of the holiday items don't have an armor type
18:34.00Arcanedeathescpecially cloth ones
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18:34.14Sky2042Arcanedeath: you double checked on wowhead or somethin?
18:34.23ArcanedeathChecked thottbot
18:34.33g0urrawowhead > thottbot
18:34.34Sky2042ew thottbot.
18:34.35Sky2042^
18:34.38Arcanedeathok
18:35.07Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=22281
18:35.13Arcanedeathwowhead doesn't say either
18:35.48Sky2042it would ideally be categorized as cloth, but as it's not, leave them in the non-merged category.
18:36.25Arcanedeathkk
18:36.27Sky2042pcj: is there a way for your category tooltips script to distinguish between category with pages in it and a category with cats in it?
18:37.39pcjyes
18:37.51Sky2042that would be yummy...
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18:43.28ArcanedeathTher categories of this are kind of strange http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Unyielding
18:44.54Sky2042Arcanedeath: how so?
18:45.19Sky2042or were...
18:45.39Arcanedeathg0urra ninjad it
18:45.44Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=The_Unyielding&diff=1356421&oldid=1288671
18:45.56g0urraI'm the master of rubbish ninja edits
18:46.09Sky2042g0urra: zomg.
18:46.18g0urrai no rite
18:47.07Sky2042yarite
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19:05.05ArcanedeathWhat happened to kirkburn
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19:17.27Arcanedeathwhat happened to your talk page, sky?
19:18.43Arcanedeathfixed
19:22.24g0urra240 bmp hard dance music = win
19:22.31g0urras/bmp/bpm/
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19:46.46Sky2042Arcanedeath: Recalibrating the tachyon coils isn't going to solve an error in the matrix; you have to reset the matrix /completely/ and then recalibrate the capacitor.
19:50.08ArcanedeathOh, silly me
19:51.11Arcanedeathwoot http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:World_of_Warcraft_hand_items
19:54.07Sky2042bam.
19:54.42Sky2042well, that's interesting. i wonder where the chamber of the aspects is, as it has never been given...
19:55.20Sky2042oh, that's failsauce.
19:55.30Sky2042Bagginsww_: nerf on lore on aisle two.
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20:04.26pcjok sky2042 there it is
20:07.02Sky2042pcj: and in the case where a category has both categories and pages in it, categories is taking precedence. should it be?
20:07.22pcjYes, absolutely
20:08.07Sky2042can it not (ie, is there a way to show that both pages and cats are in a category if both are present?)
20:08.28pcjGive me an example of one of those
20:08.48Sky2042Category:Miscellany for speedy deletion
20:11.32ArcanedeathIf I expand "World of Warcraft items" on http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Items the expanded categories don't have tooltips
20:13.57Arcanedeathpcj?
20:14.03pcjwhat
20:14.23ArcanedeathIf I expand "World of Warcraft items" on http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Items the expanded categories don't have tooltips
20:15.36pcjyes i read that
20:15.42Arcanedeathjust letting you know that was directed at you, not trying to be rude, sorry if it came off that way although I am also not trying to imply you sounded as if you were replying to me saying something rude
20:29.19pcjok sky2042 there you go
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20:31.40pcjok sky2042 there you go
20:32.05Sky2042_afkyeah, got that.
20:49.36Bagginswso it looks like we'll be getting new vital statistics for these races;
20:50.09BagginswDragonspawn,
20:50.09BagginswDwarf, Dark Iron, Murloc,
20:50.09BagginswNaga, Pandaren,
20:50.10BagginswQuilboar,
20:50.10BagginswSatyr,
20:50.10BagginswTuskarr
20:50.27Bagginswalthough I wouldn't be surprised if Satyr turn out to be "immortal" :p
20:50.45BagginswIt will be neat to know age ranges for the Pandaren.
20:50.58BagginswDark Iron will likely be the same as the other dwarves.
20:51.24BagginswTuskarr will be cool since its related to upcoming expansion  :)
20:52.09Bagginswok ok additionally there will be vital statistics for Dragons, Flamewakers, Nerubians, and Sea Giants as well.
20:52.25BagginswIt will be nice to have an update for the dragons.
20:53.41Bagginswsky what happened on taunka?
20:53.59Sky2042_afk?
20:54.12BagginswI just noticed your comment on recent changes
20:54.27Bagginsw"out of hand"
20:55.05Sky2042_afkwhen, where, and wtf are you talking about?
20:55.07Bagginswoh wait it was from sandwich
20:55.08Bagginswsorry
20:55.23Bagginswsorry you both have names starting with S :p
20:55.49Bagginswdidn't mean to confuse you two, LOL.
20:56.47Bagginswwolvar wow...
20:58.58ArcanedeathEditing: Grips_of_Deftness - Success!
20:58.58ArcanedeathEditing: Grips_of_Nature's_Wrath - Success!
20:58.58ArcanedeathEditing: Grips_of_Silent_Justice - Success!
20:59.07Arcanedeathir's on hands item
21:01.24g0urraanyone who can see http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Spell_Ice_Lament.png ?
21:01.32foxlitYes
21:01.51foxlitThough I do wonder about the name
21:02.11ArcanedeathI would associate it more with Ice Barrier
21:02.16g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Spell_Ice_Lament.png
21:02.19g0urraer
21:02.21Arcanedeathmaybe because I play a mage though
21:02.22g0urrahttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=14177
21:02.40foxlitgourra: there's an article list below the image, too
21:02.41g0urrastupid firefox is messing up again
21:02.43Sky2042_afkIce Barrier imo.
21:02.51foxlitBindings of the Windseeker, imo!
21:03.01Sky2042_afknowai.
21:03.11g0urraworks fine in safari...hmpf.
21:03.21ArcanedeathGrips_of_Silent_Justice
21:03.30foxlitWhat was wrong with previous image, btw?
21:03.32Sky2042_afklooks fine to me g0urra, and im in fx?
21:03.34Arcanedeathjustice carried out silently in the dead of night
21:03.36Sky2042_afkthat also.
21:03.45g0urraMeh it's my Firefox messing up again.
21:03.59ArcanedeathFine in firefox 3 beta on max
21:04.02Arcanedeathmac*
21:04.14g0urraI'm going to get that one then
21:04.33Sky2042_afkFine in Fx 2.0.0.14ish also?
21:04.34Arcanedeathbeta is slightly unstable but nice
21:04.36Sky2042_afk-_-
21:05.16g0urrawell like I said it's probably my Firefox messing up again, since Safarai is fine.
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21:09.50[Liquidor]Hi everyone :-)
21:09.59Arcanedeathuh oh, is it bad I put all the item articles into the same category instead of 32 separate ones?
21:10.22Sky2042_afkArcanedeath: eh?
21:10.40Sky2042_afkwhat mean?
21:10.40ArcanedeathJust trying to scare people
21:10.44Arcanedeathnvm
21:11.06Sky2042_afki figured as much, as i've been checking the edits periodically.
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21:18.12Adyshttp://digg.com/microsoft/MSN_messenger_blocking_youtube_links hah
21:20.45arcanedeathwowwiki wont load
21:32.04arcanedeathalmost at 10,000 edit mark
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22:20.27[Liquidor]Why did the chicken cross the road to go to the toilet?
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22:21.14[Liquidor]Because that's where all the cocks hang out.
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22:26.43Arcanedeathsomeone want to repair this? http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Underground_Assault
22:28.05ArcanedeathLaurly bot did it but something went wrong... Horribly wrong...
22:32.30ArcanedeathIt might be a problem on the items page...
22:33.52Kasoits not that page which is wrong
22:34.05KasoPolar gauntlets has include tags fucked up
22:34.22ArcanedeathYa I just fixed
22:35.34Arcanedeath0_o Laurly is banned from freenode...
22:36.50Kasooh wtf?
22:36.56Arcanedeathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Laurly#Baned_from_freenode
22:37.07ArcanedeathI'm asking if she is stil banned
22:38.09Kasoabusing bots, did laurybot have an IRC componet to it? or was it just a IP address mistake of identity
22:39.50Kasoabusive
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22:50.03g0urrafucking russians
22:50.07g0urraspits on Ovechkin
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22:53.19foxlithockey?
22:53.55g0urrayup
22:54.04foxlitSo who did we beat now?
22:54.28g0urraSweden
23:03.37ArcanedeathI'm in the US
23:37.51Arcanedeathhttp://web.archive.org/web/19981111184551/http://google.com/
23:41.33Bagginswwhmm if death knight is lower case on most of the articles discussing death knights houldn't hte page also be?
23:41.58BagginswwI'm speaking of the official lore page for the Wrath death knight.
23:42.20Bagginswwits only Death Knight in the page titles not the text itself
23:42.51ArcanedeathWhat about "knight of deathiness"
23:42.59Arcanedeaththen it can be lowercase
23:43.56Bagginswwgood
23:44.01Bagginswwjust as we treat races too :)
23:44.44ArcanedeathWhy doesn't this category update itself? http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category:World_of_Warcraft_hands_items
23:45.34ArcanedeathMaybe it needs to be edited since it is a transcluded page which was causing it to be there
23:45.49ArcanedeathSky was right about templates and categories being ugly
23:46.15Arcanedeathya, that was it

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