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| 00:24.02 | Arcanedeath | Is it bad to edit peoples posts to fix grammar? |
| 00:28.38 | Adys | Nope |
| 00:28.40 | Adys | why would it be? |
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| 00:34.57 | Arcanedeath | idk just wanted to make sure |
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| 01:24.12 | arcanebot | hmm |
| 01:24.24 | arcanebot | someone stole mah name |
| 01:24.55 | arcanebot | I understand it could be someone who did it legitimetly but could youo guys please check? |
| 01:26.11 | arcanedeath | this is annoying -_- |
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| 01:35.34 | arcanebot | woot an admin gave me arcanebot |
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| 01:54.23 | Welsh | Is there just a default WoW channel? |
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| 02:04.39 | Bagginsww | anyone alive? |
| 02:05.01 | arcanedeath | I am |
| 02:05.21 | Bagginsww | the irony in your name :) |
| 02:06.18 | arcanedeath | lol |
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| 02:18.53 | Bagginsww | bored |
| 02:25.54 | Adys | annoyed |
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| 02:25.58 | Adys | cant fucking fix this bug |
| 02:25.59 | Adys | gah |
| 02:26.01 | Adys | your fault DuTempete |
| 02:28.21 | DuTempete | ~seen Kirkburn|sleep |
| 02:28.21 | infobot | kirkburn|sleep is currently on #wowhead #wowuidev #wowace #wowwiki. Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 11h 33m 15s, last said: ':)'. |
| 02:28.40 | DuTempete | ~seen kirkburn |
| 02:28.40 | infobot | kirkburn <n=Kirkburn@wikia/Kirkburn> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 3h 30m 48s ago, saying: 'Sandwichman2448, http://www.wowwiki.com/Boilerplate#Game_2'. |
| 02:29.30 | Adys | ~seen Kirkburn|porn |
| 02:29.30 | infobot | Adys: i haven't seen 'kirkburn|porn' |
| 02:29.35 | Adys | :( |
| 02:36.19 | arcanedeath | ~seen evil |
| 02:36.21 | infobot | evil <n=alioth@tsunami.hypair.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 336d 4h 26m 25s ago, saying: 'debian jest glupi.'. |
| 02:36.28 | arcanedeath | see no evil! |
| 02:36.34 | arcanedeath | ~hear evil |
| 02:36.45 | arcanedeath | aww |
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| 02:54.53 | g0urra | slaps the clock for being 04:54 |
| 02:55.31 | Bagginsww | who's idwa was to change the article to Manwha? |
| 02:55.47 | Bagginsww | because while its technically correct, its not official |
| 02:56.14 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category_talk:Manhwa |
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| 02:59.49 | Sky2042 | wb Bagginsww. |
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| 03:01.31 | arcanedeath | !arcanebot help |
| 03:01.32 | Arcanebot | Commands: |
| 03:01.32 | Arcanebot | die - Kills Arcanebot |
| 03:01.32 | Arcanebot | join <channel> - Makes Arcanebot join <channel> |
| 03:01.32 | Arcanebot | leave <channel> - Makes Arcanebot leave <channel> |
| 03:01.37 | arcanedeath | woots I has a bot |
| 03:02.10 | arcanedeath | now i need to code it to do something |
| 03:02.13 | arcanedeath | suggestions? |
| 03:03.10 | Sky2042 | do you code for work, or just for fun?... |
| 03:03.13 | Sky2042 | xd |
| 03:03.20 | arcanedeath | both |
| 03:03.27 | Sky2042 | hah. |
| 03:05.59 | Bagginsww | hmm legends eh? |
| 03:06.15 | arcanedeath | !arcanbot die |
| 03:06.18 | arcanedeath | hmmz |
| 03:06.37 | arcanedeath | that ones different because only I can do it |
| 03:06.39 | Sky2042 | arcanedeath: it would help you made command right. |
| 03:06.42 | Bagginsww | a new 'manga' series |
| 03:06.52 | Bagginsww | first time I've learned of it :) but "ve been busy |
| 03:07.09 | Sky2042 | yes yes, welcome back from the hell known as finals. |
| 03:07.12 | Sky2042 | ;P |
| 03:08.21 | Bagginsww | finals next week :p |
| 03:08.40 | Bagginsww | right now is my only justifiable break as I've finished most of the paperwork :p |
| 03:08.44 | Sky2042 | why iz you here nao after so long? |
| 03:08.46 | g0urra | !arcanebot die |
| 03:08.54 | Sky2042 | g0urra: too late! |
| 03:08.56 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 03:09.06 | g0urra | grr. |
| 03:09.13 | Bagginsww | anyone know when Dark Factions pdf is going to be released? |
| 03:09.26 | g0urra | <arcanedeath> !arcanbot die |
| 03:09.28 | Bagginsww | I've ordered the hardcover but I'm having it sent to my house for safe keeping. |
| 03:09.31 | g0urra | pfft arcan not arcane. |
| 03:09.37 | Bagginsww | I don't want too many hardcovers in hawaii |
| 03:10.40 | arcanedeath | oh lol |
| 03:10.52 | arcanedeath | anyways I recoded that portion to work better |
| 03:11.04 | Bagginsww | I leave and alot of the articles I frequent fell apart :p |
| 03:11.17 | arcanedeath | now it can be any username of my ip |
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| 03:11.37 | Bagginsww | at least its only been a few so far, that I have had to reconstruct, and fix citation removal. |
| 03:11.41 | arcanedeath | !arcanebot die |
| 03:11.44 | arcanedeath | woots |
| 03:11.50 | Bagginsww | and a few have some nice paraphrase work |
| 03:11.53 | arcanedeath | ok I'm done testing bow |
| 03:11.56 | Bagginsww | at least I hope its paraphrase :p |
| 03:12.09 | Bagginsww | without citations its hard to tell :p |
| 03:12.57 | Bagginsww | but nice paraphrase work, while removing citeable unique bits of information should not be happening :p |
| 03:13.15 | arcanedeath | I like coding bots much more than manual editing :P |
| 03:13.21 | Sky2042 | I fixed Nefarian like, yesterday. |
| 03:13.23 | Sky2042 | That was fun. |
| 03:13.31 | Bagginsww | what happened? |
| 03:13.35 | Sky2042 | It had duplicate info up the wazoo. |
| 03:13.40 | Bagginsww | fun, :p |
| 03:13.56 | Sky2042 | Think I removed 1.7ishk or something like that. |
| 03:14.26 | Bagginsww | I checked out future race ideas... and it was loaded with tuskarr remarks in nearly every section :p |
| 03:14.41 | Bagginsww | Tuskarr shouldn't be used as a reason for or against, :p |
| 03:15.02 | Bagginsww | I ended up removing most of them. |
| 03:15.14 | Sky2042 | Like the new main page baggins? |
| 03:15.22 | Bagginsww | taking time to get used to |
| 03:17.21 | arcanedeath | normal users can't talk on the anti vandalism channel? : ( |
| 03:17.36 | Sky2042 | hmm? |
| 03:17.57 | Bagginsww | I also neutralified the horde/tuskarr pact since its appeared to be a peace pact |
| 03:18.02 | Bagginsww | not pact of alliance |
| 03:18.18 | Bagginsww | erm horde |
| 03:18.27 | Bagginsww | since they kept their neutrality between both factions |
| 03:18.30 | arcanedeath | #cvn-wikia-wowwiki :Cannot send to channel |
| 03:18.59 | arcanedeath | I think only admins can talk there, oh well |
| 03:19.09 | Sky2042 | no, people with +v. |
| 03:19.13 | Sky2042 | 'm guessing it's muted |
| 03:20.03 | Sky2042 | 'll poke kirkburn about why we have joe randoms on the access list on the channel arcane |
| 03:20.35 | arcanedeath | ok |
| 03:20.57 | Sky2042 | and add it to my autojoin list -_- |
| 03:22.37 | Bagginsww | highborne really got butchered, alot of ugly verbatim content |
| 03:22.48 | Bagginsww | and total removal of details from the rpg. |
| 03:23.35 | Bagginsww | and while I guess we can technically copy and paste warcraft encyclopedia work, that doesn't mean we should. Its better if we put it into our own style. |
| 03:23.53 | Bagginsww | too many blockquotes do look bad. |
| 03:24.13 | Sky2042 | we shouldn't c+p anything -_- |
| 03:25.32 | arcanedeath | http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&client=pub-4086838842346968&channel=9345733685&cof=FORID%3A1%3BGL%3A1%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowwiki.com%2F%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fcommon%2Fskins-wow%2Fcommon%2Fimages%2Fwiki-100.jpg%3BLH%3A100%3BLW%3A100%3BLBGC%3AFFFF99%3BLP%3A1%3BBGC%3A%23333333%3BT%3A%23eeeeee%3BLC%3A%2346abff%3BVLC%3A%234274ff%3BGALT%3A%2346ABFF%3BGFNT%3A%23aaaaaa%3BGIMP%3A%23aaaaaa%3BDIV%3A%23EEEEEE%3B&domai |
| 03:25.32 | arcanedeath | ns=wowwiki.com&q=%22I+think%22+-inurl%3Atalk+-intitle%3Atalk+-inurl%3Auser+-intitle%3Auser&btnG=Search&sitesearch=wowwiki.com |
| 03:25.35 | arcanedeath | oops |
| 03:25.47 | arcanedeath | didn't realize how long that url was |
| 03:25.49 | Sky2042 | nice. |
| 03:25.51 | Bagginsww | well a sentence or two isn't bad |
| 03:26.05 | Bagginsww | but a full blone paragraph is nasty |
| 03:26.07 | arcanedeath | here this is better http://tinyurl.com/4aydyj |
| 03:26.08 | Bagginsww | *blown |
| 03:26.31 | Bagginsww | unless the paragraph was trying to make some kind of point... :p |
| 03:26.53 | Bagginsww | like copying a bit of poetry, since its not easy to tell about poetry |
| 03:26.54 | Sky2042 | what's the problem arcanedeath?... |
| 03:27.10 | arcanedeath | It's a way of finding unwikified pages |
| 03:27.49 | arcanedeath | hmm I -silly helps |
| 03:29.20 | Bagginsww | ahh so it was Zeal's great idea to change all references to manga to manhwa? :p |
| 03:29.48 | Bagginsww | despite the fact that the problem doesn't exist with tokyopop but Blizzard's categorization as well, :p |
| 03:30.20 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: weren't you here for that? o_o |
| 03:30.22 | Bagginsww | I mean if it was a matter of Blizzard officially calling them Manwha it would make perfect sense to categorize them that way. |
| 03:30.24 | Bagginsww | nope |
| 03:30.31 | Bagginsww | I've been gone for a month and a half |
| 03:30.33 | Bagginsww | or longer |
| 03:30.39 | Bagginsww | only popped on now and then |
| 03:30.40 | Sky2042 | oh yeah, zeal went crazy with categories. |
| 03:30.44 | Bagginsww | for a few hours :p |
| 03:30.46 | Bagginsww | gg :p |
| 03:31.23 | Sky2042 | he called it being bold. >_< |
| 03:31.28 | Bagginsww | .... :p |
| 03:31.42 | Bagginsww | there is such a thing as overcategorization :p |
| 03:31.59 | Bagginsww | simplicity is better ;p |
| 03:32.16 | Bagginsww | we don't want to get too anal retentive :p |
| 03:32.35 | Sky2042 | eh, life goes on. |
| 03:32.40 | Bagginsww | what else did he add? |
| 03:32.44 | Sky2042 | ooo, arcanedeath, i've got something for you. |
| 03:32.50 | Sky2042 | well, he moved all the items categories. |
| 03:33.04 | arcanedeath | what havya got? |
| 03:33.12 | Sky2042 | arcanedeath: you know the WoW items categories, right? |
| 03:33.16 | arcanedeath | yes |
| 03:33.19 | Sky2042 | World of Warcraft legs items, etc |
| 03:33.38 | arcanedeath | yes, I fixed all the articles in the cloth category |
| 03:33.57 | g0urra | which was nothing really big, but still |
| 03:34.04 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 03:34.20 | g0urra | such as http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Zulian_Headdress&diff=prev&oldid=1342004 |
| 03:34.28 | Sky2042 | well, category intersection would be nice, just to the point of type and location: Ie, change items articles with [[C:World of Warcraft legs items]] and [[C:World of Warcraft leather items]] to [[C:World of Warcraft leather legs items]] |
| 03:35.08 | arcanedeath | hmm |
| 03:35.24 | arcanedeath | wouldn't a template work nicley for that? |
| 03:35.29 | arcanedeath | nicely* |
| 03:35.38 | Sky2042 | yes, but mixing templates and categories is a bad bad idea. |
| 03:35.56 | arcanedeath | <includeonly> |
| 03:36.00 | Bagginsww | true sky |
| 03:36.09 | arcanedeath | <onlyinclude>* |
| 03:36.19 | Bagginsww | ya you can use that, but then you find exceptions to the rules :p |
| 03:36.25 | g0urra | isn't <includeonly> and <onlyinclude> the same? |
| 03:36.28 | Bagginsww | rare but it happens :p |
| 03:36.31 | arcanedeath | or the first one actually |
| 03:36.39 | Sky2042 | arcanedeath: yes yes, I know my wiki. What I'm saying is that using templates to place in categoreis is just a bad idea. |
| 03:36.43 | Sky2042 | g0urra: no. |
| 03:37.04 | g0urra | how's it different? |
| 03:37.06 | Sky2042 | <onlyinclude> is the same as <noinclude>, just placed in different location. |
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| 03:37.28 | Sky2042 | <onlyinclude>{{tooltip}}</onlyinclude> as opposed to {{tooltip}}<noinclude></noinclude> |
| 03:37.54 | Sky2042 | <includeonly> only shows up on the pages it is transcluded to. |
| 03:38.03 | g0urra | ah, okay. |
| 03:38.26 | Sky2042 | ofc, i may have gotten <onlyinclude> and <includeonly> backwards, so experiment with it. |
| 03:38.44 | arcanedeath | Sky, I could do that |
| 03:40.16 | arcanedeath | I'll work on that, but first of all does anyone disagree? |
| 03:40.20 | Sky2042 | arcanedeath: another something to leave on VP then :) . and i'm sure no-one would object to it, as long as there weren't false positives... |
| 03:40.25 | arcanedeath | ok |
| 03:40.47 | arcanedeath | there shouldn't be |
| 03:41.00 | arcanedeath | I'll be conservative in matching categories |
| 03:41.10 | arcanedeath | anything even slightly wierd and it wont edit |
| 03:41.28 | Sky2042 | that'll take several batches, if you do so. |
| 03:41.34 | Sky2042 | batches of runs* |
| 03:42.26 | Sky2042 | because, call it 8ish slots times 4 types of armor is 32 runs. ofc, the first would be largest. |
| 03:42.58 | arcanedeath | no, I mean like it would match |
| 03:42.59 | arcanedeath | [[Category:Acronyms]] but not |
| 03:42.59 | arcanedeath | [[Category:Acronyms |
| 03:42.59 | arcanedeath | [[Category:Acronyms]] |
| 03:43.03 | arcanedeath | oops |
| 03:43.05 | arcanedeath | lol |
| 03:43.09 | Sky2042 | haha |
| 03:43.11 | arcanedeath | stupid irc client glitched |
| 03:43.39 | arcanedeath | it wouldn't match: |
| 03:43.51 | arcanedeath | [[Category:Acronyms |
| 03:43.58 | arcanedeath | [[Category:Acronyms []]] |
| 03:44.08 | Sky2042 | mmm |
| 03:44.10 | arcanedeath | [[]Category:Acronyms]] |
| 03:44.18 | arcanedeath | but it would match: |
| 03:44.20 | Sky2042 | works. |
| 03:44.21 | arcanedeath | [[Category:Acronyms ]] |
| 03:44.42 | Sky2042 | it would need to match [[Category: Acronyms]], possibly. |
| 03:47.16 | Sky2042 | i'm not sure how many spaces category code works with, though that would be the biggest error thrower. |
| 03:47.54 | arcanedeath | the regex would be something like "/[[\s*Category:\s*Acronyms\s*]]/i" |
| 03:49.31 | Sky2042 | oh, and you might have to deal with [[C: Acronyms|<sortkey>]] |
| 03:49.35 | Sky2042 | :] |
| 03:49.54 | Sky2042 | also possibly a space before <sortkey> |
| 03:51.36 | arcanedeath | what about [[Cat:Acronyms]] |
| 03:52.05 | arcanedeath | and what if each category has a different sortkey |
| 03:53.21 | Sky2042 | "what about [[Cat:Acronyms]]"? |
| 03:54.05 | arcanedeath | yes? |
| 03:54.12 | arcanedeath | I said tha |
| 03:54.14 | arcanedeath | t |
| 03:54.17 | Sky2042 | the only way to make categories work is to use [[Category:[space(s)]<categoryname>|[space(s)]<sortkey>]]... does that answer your questions? |
| 03:54.26 | Sky2042 | you can't abbreviate "category" |
| 03:54.28 | arcanedeath | ok |
| 03:54.34 | Sky2042 | it can be lowercase, however |
| 03:54.50 | Sky2042 | the first letter of the category name can also be lower case. |
| 03:55.00 | Sky2042 | the rest of the category name is required. |
| 03:55.06 | arcanedeath | hence the case insensitive matching /regeex/i |
| 03:55.07 | Sky2042 | casing* |
| 03:55.16 | Sky2042 | double checking =] |
| 03:55.32 | arcanedeath | but should I preserve sortkeys? |
| 03:56.02 | arcanedeath | what if I have a different leather sortkey than leg shortkey |
| 03:56.07 | Sky2042 | only if they are different from the pagename, if possible. |
| 03:56.18 | Sky2042 | dump them both, in that case. |
| 03:56.22 | arcanedeath | ok |
| 03:56.49 | arcanedeath | I have all the info I need |
| 03:58.05 | Sky2042 | hmm... maybe just dump the sortkey anyway. there shouldn't be sortkeys on the articles we're going to be killing. |
| 04:01.22 | arcanedeath | what? |
| 04:01.36 | arcanedeath | why are you killing all the articles in item categories? |
| 04:01.56 | arcanedeath | and I thought the sortkey was so "the murloc" would be sorted as "murloc" |
| 04:02.22 | arcanedeath | sorry, I missunderstood something I guess |
| 04:03.22 | Sky2042 | yes, that's what the sortkey was for, but item articles (specifically, articles with {{tooltip}}) shouldn't have sorteys. |
| 04:03.31 | arcanedeath | ok |
| 04:03.33 | Sky2042 | arcanedeath: haha, no, i'm not killing them. |
| 04:03.37 | arcanedeath | oh lol |
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| 04:05.41 | arcanedeath | !arcanebot rick |
| 04:05.42 | Arcanebot | We're no strangers to love |
| 04:05.42 | Arcanebot | You know the rules and so do I |
| 04:05.42 | Arcanebot | A full commitment's what I'm thinking of |
| 04:05.42 | Arcanebot | You wouldn't get this from any other guy |
| 04:05.42 | Arcanebot | I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling |
| 04:05.42 | Arcanebot | Gotta make you understand |
| 04:05.43 | Arcanebot | Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down |
| 04:05.45 | Arcanebot | Never gonna run around and desert you |
| 04:05.47 | Arcanebot | Never gonna make you cry, never gonna say goodbye |
| 04:05.49 | Arcanebot | Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you |
| 04:06.09 | arcanedeath | pwn |
| 04:06.10 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 04:06.15 | Sky2042 | damn you. |
| 04:06.55 | g0urra | !arcanebot die |
| 04:07.02 | Sky2042 | lol g0urra. |
| 04:07.03 | arcanedeath | only I can do that :P |
| 04:07.04 | g0urra | kicks the bot |
| 04:07.07 | g0urra | die! |
| 04:07.10 | arcanedeath | lol |
| 04:07.23 | arcanedeath | automatic rejoin actually |
| 04:07.29 | arcanedeath | !arcanebot die |
| 04:10.00 | Sky2042 | hmm, i can make the bot not come back... |
| 04:10.02 | Sky2042 | ;P |
| 04:10.32 | arcanedeath | I know you can |
| 04:10.37 | arcanedeath | plz don't |
| 04:10.49 | arcanedeath | Im going to make him do useful stuff :p |
| 04:11.54 | Sky2042 | haha |
| 04:13.58 | arcanedeath | lol |
| 04:25.56 | arcanedeath | the vandal bot is pretty nice |
| 04:26.14 | Sky2042 | lol arcanedeath. |
| 04:27.59 | arcanedeath | could some of the VP be archived? it's taking a while to load |
| 04:31.34 | Sky2042 | Ugh, speaking of which, another project to be done. |
| 04:43.07 | arcanedeath | Ok I posted on the VP |
| 04:43.11 | arcanedeath | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Combining_categories. |
| 04:44.04 | arcanedeath | with irc logs, for the conspiracy theorists |
| 04:45.07 | Sky2042 | haha, yah |
| 04:49.28 | Sky2042 | arcanedeath: try introing who "he" is, as well as signing. |
| 04:49.32 | Sky2042 | ;p |
| 04:49.48 | arcanedeath | oh lol |
| 04:50.04 | arcanedeath | "his" |
| 04:50.07 | arcanedeath | XD |
| 05:19.42 | arcanedeath | the vandal bot should whitelist people editing their own userpages |
| 05:19.58 | arcanedeath | unless they are inserting a huge amount of text |
| 05:20.57 | Sky2042 | arcanedeath: i've thought about that, but what about some vandal who decides he wants to start pasting... inappropriate links? |
| 05:21.04 | Sky2042 | on his subpage |
| 05:21.30 | arcanedeath | well it should check for that but it shouldn't be checking for gibberish |
| 05:22.06 | arcanedeath | or deleting large amounts of text |
| 05:22.15 | arcanedeath | "Starnes2> User [[User:Arcanedeath]] replaced [[User:Arcanebot/test]] with "save this" (-663) Diff: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Arcanebot/test&diff=1345445&oldid=1337532&rcid=1327081" |
| 05:23.19 | Sky2042 | well, the bot doesn't know that's your bot |
| 05:23.21 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 05:23.29 | arcanedeath | oh ya lol |
| 05:23.34 | arcanedeath | lol |
| 05:23.40 | arcanedeath | It should |
| 05:23.42 | arcanedeath | :P |
| 05:23.55 | Sky2042 | no, not really. |
| 05:24.23 | arcanedeath | lol |
| 05:24.38 | Sky2042 | it's in a few more pages than you think ;P |
| 05:24.43 | Sky2042 | s/pages/channels/ |
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| 05:29.01 | Bagginsww | Its come across my mind that there are a couple of pictures that might be nice to have in WoWWiki if they can be found. A close up picture of the closed gate of Ahn Quiraj, so one can see the details |
| 05:29.21 | Bagginsww | A picture of the logs that once blocked the passage to Quel'Thalas |
| 05:31.35 | Bagginsww | A picture of pile of dirt and closed gates in Silvermoon that blocked the way to Quel'Danas. |
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| 05:47.29 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Vampire ;) |
| 05:53.14 | Bagginsww | I've been meaning to create an article on that obscure reference for a while heh heh ;) |
| 05:55.12 | Sky2042 | oh jesus, gl finding thoses sses |
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| 05:56.54 | Bagginsww | sses? |
| 05:59.45 | Sky2042 | screenshots |
| 05:59.51 | Sky2042 | in refer to earlier comments |
| 06:00.11 | Bagginsww | ahh |
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| 13:49.26 | Ose | eh, editing tips? |
| 13:50.23 | Ose | the widescreen thingy hides some text... |
| 13:58.50 | Ose | ping Kirkburn |
| 14:02.08 | Kirkburn|sleep | "hides some text"? |
| 14:02.54 | Ose | i'll screenshot it |
| 14:03.05 | Ose | just need to re-enable them |
| 14:03.56 | Ose | btw the checkbox text to disable them just says "<tog-disableeditingtips>" |
| 14:05.25 | Ose | oh, I see |
| 14:05.32 | Ose | I blame pcj |
| 14:07.15 | Ose | I forgot I was still using his CSS, that's why it's so weird |
| 14:07.28 | Ose | he obviously need to change it :P |
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| 14:25.35 | Kirkburn|sleep | Ose, ah, okay |
| 14:27.13 | pcj | kirkburn wtf did you do |
| 14:27.27 | Kirkburn | It's your CSS |
| 14:27.34 | pcj | i've got a ton of people whispering me about ajax rc |
| 14:27.37 | Kirkburn | oh :P |
| 14:27.59 | Kirkburn | Well on another topic, your CSS doesn't play well with the edit enhancements we just got |
| 14:28.08 | Kirkburn | (You can turn them off though) |
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| 14:28.18 | pcj | which CSS |
| 14:28.27 | Kirkburn | Whatever Ose uses |
| 14:28.40 | Ose | used |
| 14:28.42 | Kirkburn | Ose, pcj; pcj, ose |
| 14:28.43 | pcj | do these edit tips show up in the old skin |
| 14:28.49 | Kirkburn | pcj, not afaik |
| 14:28.56 | pcj | good, then idc |
| 14:29.12 | Kirkburn | pcj, I credited you on my global js |
| 14:29.33 | Kirkburn | Whispering you on IRC? |
| 14:29.44 | pcj | yeah |
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| 14:30.09 | Kirkburn | d'oh |
| 14:30.25 | Kirkburn | Well, I didn't say "ping him on IRC", but ... well ... it is awesome code |
| 14:30.43 | pcj | note to self: write less awesome code |
| 14:30.52 | Kirkburn | nooooooo :) |
| 14:32.36 | Arcanedeath | Why does zeal disagree with everything |
| 14:32.48 | pcj | It's his nature |
| 14:32.52 | Arcanedeath | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Combining_categories. |
| 14:37.35 | Kirkburn | I might suggest making that IRC log scroll |
| 14:37.48 | Arcanedeath | howz? |
| 14:38.14 | Arcanedeath | ooh nvm |
| 14:38.18 | Arcanedeath | I'll use css |
| 14:40.31 | Arcanedeath | ok done |
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| 15:10.48 | Kirkburn | Just seen another reason why IE6 performs so awfully - compression is off for it due to bugs |
| 15:14.40 | arcanedeath | omg get rid of IE6 quick |
| 15:14.45 | arcanedeath | I hate it |
| 15:15.08 | arcanedeath | I don't have it installed |
| 15:18.53 | Kirkburn | Good good |
| 15:26.18 | Kaso | Kirkburn, wikia bugs or ie6 bugs? |
| 15:26.38 | Kirkburn | Probably a bit of both |
| 15:27.09 | Kirkburn | That Wikia could support IE6's way of doing things, but it's a better use of time to do it "properly" and have IE6 suffer the consequences |
| 15:30.10 | arcanedeath | lol |
| 15:30.17 | arcanedeath | s/lol/lul/ |
| 15:31.04 | Kaso | I admit, im a stickerl for standards, people should stick to them whenever possible otherwise re get to rediculous situations like the fact every User agent in the World has Mozilla x on the front for "backwards compatibily |
| 15:37.03 | Adys | test |
| 15:37.04 | Adys | s/test/\ |
| 15:37.17 | Adys | s/test/\ |
| 15:37.17 | Adys | / |
| 15:37.20 | Adys | grr |
| 15:37.25 | arcanedeath | omgpwn |
| 15:37.42 | arcanedeath | s/omgpwn/omgadyswaspwned/ |
| 15:37.49 | Kaso | Adys, what are you trying to do? |
| 15:37.57 | Adys | trying to get infobot to do a newline |
| 15:38.12 | Adys | Anyone knows how to place a dom element as the Xth child? |
| 15:38.20 | Adys | with appendChild |
| 15:38.38 | arcanedeath | insertbefore |
| 15:39.03 | Adys | i dont have any id, tagname or anything like that arcanedeath |
| 15:39.07 | Adys | just the node number |
| 15:39.36 | Kirkburn | Interesting use of js - http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/User:Jack_Phoenix/sig ... roll over the sig icon |
| 15:39.49 | Kaso | Im pretty sure infobot will be sanatised to hell |
| 15:39.57 | Ose | wtf? |
| 15:39.59 | Ose | ~you |
| 15:39.59 | infobot | ose, I love abuse, feed me! |
| 15:40.59 | arcanedeath | get the element from the number using childnodes |
| 15:42.16 | arcanedeath | parent.insertbefore(newelem, parent.childNodes[x]); |
| 15:42.30 | Adys | hm aight |
| 15:42.36 | Adys | heres hoping minidom supports it |
| 15:45.01 | arcanedeath | remember to make sure parent.childNodes[x] exists |
| 15:45.12 | Adys | Aye |
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| 15:52.54 | Kirkburn | Y'know, I don't understand why there's problems for some on Linux - quite a few people use Linux at Wikia |
| 15:52.58 | Adys | worked arcanedeath :D |
| 15:53.00 | Ose | ~Kalroth |
| 15:53.01 | infobot | somebody said kalroth was a noob and a clown. |
| 15:53.05 | arcanedeath | yay |
| 15:53.07 | Kalroth | ;((( |
| 15:53.07 | Ose | lawl |
| 15:53.10 | Kalroth | Adys, I hate you |
| 15:53.23 | arcanedeath | Ose, I changed yo edit |
| 15:53.23 | Ose | ~Ose |
| 15:53.24 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, ose is n00b |
| 15:53.28 | Adys | Kirkburn, it's only the debian-modified firefox versions as far as i know |
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| 15:53.57 | Kirkburn | Ah, k |
| 15:54.03 | Adys | so someone running a non debian based distro wont see it anyway |
| 15:54.12 | Kirkburn | aye |
| 15:54.18 | Ose | arcanedeath: acronyms usually redirect to the "main" page |
| 15:54.26 | arcanedeath | oh ok |
| 15:54.39 | arcanedeath | I saw the other ones didn't |
| 15:54.57 | arcanedeath | I see, thats if they are disambig |
| 15:55.02 | arcanedeath | I'll revert my edit |
| 15:55.24 | arcanedeath | should it be in the acronym cat? |
| 15:55.51 | Ose | dunno |
| 15:56.17 | arcanedeath | well it is |
| 16:01.24 | Adys | Kalroth, haet |
| 16:03.56 | Kirkburn | Adys, just confirmed ticket for WWI |
| 16:04.12 | Adys | oh? |
| 16:04.46 | Kirkburn | Need to book travel, but :) |
| 16:05.02 | Adys | :D |
| 16:05.25 | Kirkburn | Jebus, some people reply to emails too damn quick |
| 16:05.38 | Kirkburn | Must have been about a 30 second delay |
| 16:12.59 | Ose | WWI? |
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| 16:14.22 | Ose | ~foxlit |
| 16:15.17 | Kalroth | ~foxlite |
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| 16:15.34 | Ose | ~Gryphen |
| 16:15.34 | infobot | well, gryphen is at gryphonllc.com |
| 16:16.29 | Ose | can anyone see whats wrong with http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sandbox/Chart ? |
| 16:17.38 | Ose | ~wikipedia noob |
| 16:18.19 | Ose | heh |
| 16:18.46 | Ose | Kirkburn: what be this WWI thy talketh about? |
| 16:19.15 | Kirkburn | http://eu.blizzard.com/wwi08/ |
| 16:19.58 | Ose | oh, world wide invitational... |
| 16:21.52 | Ose | hmm... I wonder... |
| 16:22.55 | Ose | i'm going to paris this summer... late june... hmm... |
| 16:23.08 | Kirkburn | Tickets are sold out |
| 16:24.07 | Ose | well I doubt i'd have time for it anyway, just staying a couple of days |
| 16:25.33 | Ose | I love what the parisians called their airport :P |
| 16:27.41 | pcj | o rly? |
| 16:30.41 | Kirkburn | We should be getting the new wiki search engine fairly soon - basically, as soon as there's a machine to run it on |
| 16:31.35 | Kirkburn | Of this type - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucene |
| 16:39.48 | Kirkburn | Did anyone get a talk page message about the maintenance or the new edit tools? |
| 16:40.14 | Kirkburn | (there was an hour outage this morning for server reconfig, you should have had a message) |
| 16:43.05 | pcj | i hate those automatic messages |
| 16:43.07 | pcj | it's so annoying |
| 16:43.24 | Kirkburn | Is that a yes, /on wowwiki/? |
| 16:43.49 | pcj | Was that today? |
| 16:43.56 | pcj | If so, no |
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| 16:44.05 | Kirkburn | The maintenance one was in the last 24 hours |
| 16:44.16 | Kirkburn | Only two talk page messages have ever gone out afaik |
| 16:44.24 | pcj | It might've been yesterday, but I think it was on Central |
| 16:44.32 | Kirkburn | Yeah, would have been |
| 16:45.07 | Kirkburn | I mean, two others have gone out. One to announce the edit tools about a week ago, and one to announce talk page messages over a month ago. |
| 16:45.24 | Kirkburn | Anyway, thanks. Need to report WoWWikians are getting them |
| 16:45.27 | Kirkburn | *aren't |
| 16:48.22 | Kirkburn | pcj, btw, no plans to spam people with them, don't worry |
| 16:48.54 | Kirkburn | They're only for planned outage notices and major announcement stuff |
| 16:50.26 | pcj | yeah opt-out would be good tho |
| 16:50.44 | pcj | or just use Sitenotice |
| 16:50.53 | pcj | with a link to more info |
| 16:51.00 | Chri3 | What about creating a page for raiding gear requirments? |
| 16:51.20 | pcj | what do you mean Chri3 |
| 16:52.25 | Chri3 | Right now there isn't a page for what gear is required to start raiding or doing heroics. For example have a page making sure tanks know to have 490 D. Like a page for new people to raiding |
| 16:53.02 | pcj | That really varies with the rest of the group and the raid being attended |
| 16:53.48 | Chri3 | True but some guidelines would be nice for people to have an idea where they should be. I hate to see people wanting to heal a heroic with green gear |
| 16:54.33 | pcj | Well, we have lists of recommended gear |
| 16:54.48 | pcj | Outside of that, there might be something to that |
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| 17:12.42 | Jack_Phoenix | Kirkburn: IIRC the collapsible sigs at Uncyclopedia don't even abuse JS, just CSS :D |
| 17:14.10 | Jack_Phoenix | Kirkburn: look for /* allows for expanding hidden sig sections (experimental) -Dawg */ on http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css ;-) |
| 17:14.19 | Kirkburn | yeah, just seen it |
| 17:14.48 | Jack_Phoenix | fancy, yet so simple <g> |
| 17:14.51 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 17:15.10 | Ose | we get? |
| 17:15.13 | Kirkburn | .sighidden { display: none } |
| 17:15.13 | Kirkburn | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.31 | Kirkburn | Dunno |
| 17:15.35 | Ose | wants. Pwetty pwetty pwease? |
| 17:15.55 | foxlit | Oh god |
| 17:16.05 | Ose | ~god |
| 17:16.06 | infobot | i heard god is a llama, or real unless declared integer |
| 17:16.10 | foxlit | <div class="sighidden"><youtube>rickroll</youtube></div> |
| 17:16.16 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 17:16.17 | foxlit | That is so going to be my signature if that goes in. |
| 17:16.48 | foxlit | Seriously, what do you need in your signature that takes up so much space? |
| 17:17.09 | foxlit | It already links to your User: page -- the rest of the links are easy accessible from there and do nothing but waste my bandwidth :) |
| 17:28.31 | Adys | "if that goes in"? |
| 17:28.34 | Adys | what do you mean |
| 17:28.35 | Adys | its css |
| 17:28.38 | Adys | of course we have it :P |
| 17:29.04 | pcj | what are you on about adys |
| 17:29.16 | Adys | [19:15:10] <Ose> we get? |
| 17:29.16 | Adys | [19:15:13] <Kirkburn> .sighidden { display: none } |
| 17:29.16 | Adys | [19:15:14] <Kirkburn> and .sigexpand:hover .sighidden { display: inline !important } |
| 17:29.16 | Adys | [19:15:31] <Kirkburn> Dunno |
| 17:29.28 | Kirkburn | Yes, that's uncyc's css |
| 17:30.53 | Adys | you can always use inline :) |
| 17:30.54 | Adys | style= |
| 17:31.39 | Kirkburn | In action - http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/User:Jack_Phoenix/sig |
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| 17:40.42 | Ose | teech meeeee |
| 17:43.36 | foxlit | You can't really do it inline unless you managed to inline :hover, which I don't think is possible |
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| 18:12.53 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_palettes |
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| 18:28.37 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Editcount should now report correctly |
| 18:28.55 | Kirkburn | pcj is on 32k, I'm on 24.5k ... sounds about right |
| 18:29.04 | pcj | pwnt |
| 18:29.23 | Kirkburn | I delete my dev stuff, it doesn't get counted |
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| 18:29.42 | Kirkburn | I lost about 700 edits or so between 1st May to today |
| 18:33.29 | Ose | ~seen Arcanedeath |
| 18:33.30 | infobot | arcanedeath <n=Arcanede@cpe-066-057-104-056.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 2h 37m 13s ago, saying: 'well it is'. |
| 18:33.46 | Ose | ~seen Laurly |
| 18:33.46 | infobot | laurly <n=test@0x573ef67e.nynqu1.broadband.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 1d 8h 4m 42s ago, saying: 'http://opensourcecommunity.org/ hm'. |
| 18:33.57 | Ose | ~laurly |
| 18:34.35 | Ose | hmm... |
| 18:34.44 | Ose | infobot, laurly is crazy |
| 18:34.45 | infobot | okay, Ose |
| 18:34.56 | Ose | ~laurly |
| 18:34.56 | infobot | i heard laurly is crazy |
| 18:35.02 | Ose | :) |
| 18:41.26 | Ose | Kirkburn: WÎW CDkeys <5Min Delivery |
| 18:41.27 | Ose | Buy Fast WÎW Time Card Get it Now, 5 Mins Email Delivery, 24/7 Support |
| 18:41.29 | Ose | www.OOFay.com |
| 18:42.29 | Kirkburn | Email, email |
| 18:42.39 | Ose | wai? |
| 18:50.06 | pcj | So he can put it off |
| 18:50.18 | Ose | Kirkburn: is Uncyc on wikia? |
| 18:50.59 | Adys | haha |
| 18:51.01 | Jack_Phoenix | Uncyclopedia is hosted by Wikia but it's not a Wikia officially plus it has a separate user database |
| 18:51.10 | Adys | wow |
| 18:51.15 | Kirkburn | It's a "sister site" |
| 18:51.23 | Adys | just saw about yahoo coming back on ms offer and ms rejecting |
| 18:51.27 | Adys | thats doublefail in half a second |
| 18:51.32 | Jack_Phoenix | Adys: rofl |
| 18:51.54 | Adys | i can only imagine google chairmen partying for the past three months almost |
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| 19:13.36 | Ose | ~seen Charitwo |
| 19:13.39 | infobot | charitwo <n=Charitwo@wikia/Charitwo> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 21h 34m 13s ago, saying: 'kirkburn, any updates on that log bug?'. |
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| 19:20.43 | winkiller | Adys! hi and good to see you :) |
| 19:20.49 | Adys | hey :D |
| 19:25.26 | pcj | bah i need to come up with another JS project to impress Kirkburn |
| 19:28.54 | Ose | *psst* skin dropdown menu |
| 19:30.15 | pcj | why... |
| 19:30.31 | pcj | that would require server side code anyway |
| 19:31.25 | Ose | because I want it |
| 19:31.56 | pcj | i guess it's possible, but it would only apply for the current page |
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| 20:17.00 | Ose | pcj: yeah, that's what I want |
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| 20:31.48 | Ose | Hi Baggins and SWM |
| 20:33.48 | Sandwichman2448 | Hello Ose. |
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| 20:36.31 | MummyMike | wewt sup people |
| 20:38.35 | Ose | not much it seems |
| 20:39.39 | Sandwichman2448 | Baggins is back... |
| 20:41.33 | Bagginsww | hey sandwich, just half a week until finals, :p |
| 20:42.12 | Sandwichman2448 | K |
| 20:43.30 | Sandwichman2448 | I took the advice you gave me a while back and ran for admin. |
| 20:43.39 | Sandwichman2448 | I lost. |
| 20:44.42 | Bagginsww | um you did it while I wasn't around to defend you :p |
| 20:45.19 | Sandwichman2448 | If I need defending by one person I may ne be worthy. |
| 20:45.30 | Sandwichman2448 | No offence. |
| 20:45.30 | Bagginsww | no one defended you? |
| 20:45.50 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:RFA |
| 20:46.01 | Sandwichman2448 | X8 and Coobera |
| 20:46.14 | Sandwichman2448 | coobra |
| 20:46.22 | Bagginsww | on the other hand I didn't think one "Just runs for admin" LOL. I thought you had to be nominated :p |
| 20:46.43 | Sandwichman2448 | ... |
| 20:46.50 | Bagginsww | I never tried to become an admin. Just one day I was told, oh you have been chosen :p |
| 20:47.02 | Sandwichman2448 | I read that. |
| 20:47.21 | Bagginsww | I was asked if I agreed or not. I said sure why not, LOL |
| 20:52.28 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Fandyllic#Undelete_please |
| 20:53.16 | Bagginsww | well, class is about to begin talk to you allater |
| 20:53.27 | Sandwichman2448 | Bye. |
| 20:53.29 | Sandwichman2448 | ? |
| 20:53.36 | Sandwichman2448 | Sorry. |
| 20:53.41 | Sandwichman2448 | My bad. |
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| 21:05.03 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, can you take a look at http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Profile_tools :) |
| 21:05.43 | Sky2042 | MySpace. |
| 21:06.13 | Kirkburn | Really not the case, take a look around the other wikis |
| 21:06.32 | Sky2042 | that's my interpretation of it, whether or not users take that way. |
| 21:07.07 | Sky2042 | s/take that way/lead it in that direction/ |
| 21:07.54 | Kirkburn | There's a small amount of set up for the admins, but mostly it runs itself |
| 21:08.09 | *** part/#wowwiki sannse (n=sannse@wikia/pdpc.active.sannse) |
| 21:09.16 | Sky2042 | I also think it decreases the integrity of the user base, in that it's just like so many other websites that do it (even generic forums). Wikis are different in my mind; if a user wants a crappy looking page, or doesn't want a page, or doesn't see the reason for making an account, more power to them. |
| 21:10.09 | Sky2042 | Or if they really wanted to be involved in the way a wiki works, they would have already started helping. |
| 21:10.25 | Sky2042 | User profiles feel like a facade to me, in this case. :/ |
| 21:10.56 | Kirkburn | We need people on SSB to look at that page and give their views |
| 21:11.13 | Kirkburn | It's a lot more than just profile stuff however |
| 21:11.50 | Kirkburn | But this stuff kinda has to come first if you want any of the other NY tools |
| 21:12.01 | Sky2042 | "NY tools" |
| 21:12.21 | Sky2042 | My first suggestion would be to dump sitescout and add the Ajax RC that pcj developed to the "Customizing your wiki" page. |
| 21:12.35 | Kirkburn | SiteScout is somewhat different |
| 21:12.38 | pcj | lol |
| 21:12.40 | Sky2042 | Hmm? |
| 21:12.48 | Kirkburn | It doesn't replace the RC list |
| 21:13.08 | Kirkburn | It just presents more relevant stuff for the fleeting visitor |
| 21:13.28 | Sky2042 | It duplicates it largely, and I think that an extension probably wasn't the way to fix the issue of wanting instant changes. |
| 21:13.41 | Sky2042 | Viewing of course, polls and such. |
| 21:14.01 | Kirkburn | By NY tools there's a whole bunch of them - polls being one |
| 21:14.19 | Sky2042 | (which I also disagree with polls, but you knew that already" |
| 21:14.21 | Sky2042 | ) |
| 21:15.13 | Kirkburn | Anyway, I just wanted to bring it up and ask if you could get people on SSB to look into it |
| 21:15.14 | Sky2042 | "Site Activity" is nice. |
| 21:15.27 | Sky2042 | I'll add a message to the sitemessage. |
| 21:15.36 | Kirkburn | It's already there >_< |
| 21:15.40 | pcj | kirkburn what does sitescout show different than RC |
| 21:15.50 | pcj | all i see is it failing to parse the comments properly |
| 21:16.01 | pcj | and displaying information with big icons |
| 21:16.03 | Sky2042 | haha kirkburn. |
| 21:16.19 | Sky2042 | then i can't help you, except to go canvass people. |
| 21:16.36 | Sky2042 | spalelling? |
| 21:16.49 | Kirkburn | We at least want the admins to take interest |
| 21:17.05 | Sky2042 | Heh. |
| 21:17.30 | Kirkburn | pcj, yeah, there are requests for improvements |
| 21:17.46 | pcj | ... |
| 21:18.01 | pcj | ok but you're claiming it's better for the new user and i'm not seeing much difference except that it sucks |
| 21:18.02 | Sky2042 | you mean, fixes? :P |
| 21:19.03 | Kirkburn | pcj, not so much a new user, but one who isn't interested in technical wiki stuff |
| 21:19.21 | Kirkburn | Those who want just article edits, and who's talking |
| 21:19.33 | pcj | You mean like changing namespace on RC? |
| 21:19.47 | Kirkburn | Not exactly "friendly" |
| 21:19.52 | Kirkburn | Anyhoo, in a meeting atm |
| 21:22.59 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, I would say, though, with the rollout on the current wikis, not had any negative feedback |
| 21:23.09 | Sky2042 | Huh. |
| 21:23.22 | Kirkburn | Yes, not Halo. |
| 21:23.43 | Kirkburn | But FFXI, AoC and GTA all are doing pretty well |
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| 21:24.12 | pcj | Aren't you in a meeting? |
| 21:24.13 | Sky2042 | I must be a minority on this one... :/ Maybe it's because I don't trust non-editors to go the right places with this. |
| 21:24.15 | Sky2042 | ^^ |
| 21:24.21 | Sky2042 | s/^^/^^^^^/ |
| 21:24.46 | Sky2042 | Because it's the people who don't edit that'll move on this type of stuff, not the editors. |
| 21:25.02 | Sky2042 | Especially given WoW's player base >.> |
| 21:25.03 | Kirkburn | FFXI and AoC probably do better as they're MMOs |
| 21:25.15 | Sky2042 | But not large ones. |
| 21:25.19 | Kirkburn | I think you give our userbase too little credit |
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| 21:25.37 | Sky2042 | I give people in general too little credit. Hitler said it best: "People are stupid." |
| 21:25.42 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 21:25.48 | Sky2042 | s/People/The masses/ |
| 21:26.53 | Kirkburn | Just this profile stuff really shouldn't allow any problems to develop, since gifts need admin approval |
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| 21:27.18 | Sky2042 | Oh boy... |
| 21:27.19 | Kirkburn | The rest is just "normal" stuff, but presented in a friendlier way |
| 21:27.28 | Sky2042 | (I'm to aid in this. Yippee!) |
| 21:27.42 | Kirkburn | lol, please do leave comments on the forum page |
| 21:27.51 | Kirkburn | Charitwo, problems? |
| 21:28.27 | Ose | oh well, i'd better get to bed. Of to Rome early tomorrow :D |
| 21:28.35 | Kirkburn | oh wow |
| 21:28.37 | Kirkburn | Enjoy |
| 21:28.42 | Ose | I will |
| 21:28.59 | pcj | Don't get sick |
| 21:29.40 | Ose | I've been to italy... thrice? four times? I think i'd be immune to most of their diseases by now :P |
| 21:29.54 | Ose | bai bai |
| 21:31.02 | Charitwo | i dunno, wifi acting wierd |
| 21:41.10 | MummyMike | wewt |
| 21:43.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Sky2042, will try and build up some stas for you to see - the social tools give you a page called SiteMetrics which gives you loooads of feedback on what's been happening |
| 21:43.58 | Kirkburn|afk | (you and SSB, that is) |
| 21:44.07 | Sky2042 | sounds good! |
| 21:44.10 | Sky2042 | (keke) |
| 21:44.41 | Kirkburn|afk | pretty graphs :P (and sysops get access) |
| 21:46.07 | Sky2042 | I likez teh perty grafs |
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| 22:27.14 | [Liquidor] | Joke: What did Batman say to Robin just before they got in the car? |
| 22:27.26 | Sky2042 | (don't spam liquid) |
| 22:27.37 | [Liquidor] | Joke: "Get in the car." |
| 22:27.44 | [Liquidor] | spam? |
| 22:27.56 | [Liquidor] | You tell me not to spam after 1 line? |
| 22:28.04 | Sky2042 | cross channel. |
| 22:28.15 | Sky2042 | tell your joke in one place, in other words ;) |
| 22:28.48 | [Liquidor] | Still not spam. |
| 22:28.54 | [Liquidor] | ... ;) |
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| 22:59.49 | Laraul | Charitwo what are you doing here? |
| 23:00.32 | Charitwo | why do you ask |
| 23:01.19 | Laraul | We're you not an administrator on ffxiclopedia? |
| 23:02.23 | Charitwo | Laraul: i'm in a lot of different wikia channels, i dont JUST goto ffxiclopedia |
| 23:02.42 | Laraul | Yeah but the others |
| 23:03.00 | Charitwo | but the others what? |
| 23:03.07 | Laraul | Er the other admins.... |
| 23:03.28 | Laraul | I mean compare this wiki to ffxiclopedia's? |
| 23:03.54 | Charitwo | i don't do comparisons, each community is different |
| 23:05.46 | Laraul | Why not look for others for inspiration? |
| 23:06.00 | Laraul | Why not look to others for guidance? |
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| 23:06.51 | Charitwo | Laraul: this isnt really on-topic here, im not going to get into a big discussion over the different wikis there are out there |
| 23:07.04 | Laraul | K talk to me in private |
| 23:07.13 | Charitwo | kinda busy |
| 23:07.55 | Sandwichman2448 | I just had an idea. Would making the content of 'In-jokes and references' a nav template organize things? |
| 23:08.06 | Sandwichman2448 | Or would it do nothing? |
| 23:08.34 | Laraul | BTW could someone point me to a page that explains template design? I don't know all the syntax |
| 23:09.15 | Sandwichman2448 | ...I just hack up existing ones. |
| 23:09.34 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Help:Template |
| 23:10.24 | Laraul | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template |
| 23:10.30 | Laraul | Thank you |
| 23:10.37 | Sandwichman2448 | There is a link on my page to that. |
| 23:10.44 | Sandwichman2448 | oh |
| 23:10.46 | Laraul | Yeah I know... |
| 23:10.48 | Laraul | Thank you |
| 23:10.50 | Sandwichman2448 | You are welcome. |
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| 23:23.09 | Bagginsww | alright I tracked down that map, sharga was looking for |
| 23:23.22 | Bagginsww | it was originally on Azeroth main page |
| 23:23.42 | Bagginsww | history says that Sky moved or intended to move it to the Azeroth world page |
| 23:24.07 | Bagginsww | trying to see if it got moved, in anycase I'll fix it. |
| 23:24.08 | Sandwichman2448 | ... and he did not? |
| 23:24.32 | Bagginsww | if he moved it, I'd be interested to find out who removed it |
| 23:26.07 | Bagginsww | it looks like we probably should make a gallery for some of those maps |
| 23:26.12 | Bagginsww | at least for a fan map gallery |
| 23:26.22 | Bagginsww | we have fan maps of the world scattered on several pages :p |
| 23:26.41 | Bagginsww | also the silly section shouldn't be in the Azeroth world page, :p |
| 23:26.47 | Bagginsww | probably should get its own page |
| 23:27.19 | Sandwichman2448 | I agree. |
| 23:29.19 | Bagginsww | alright best I can tell sky must have missed moving the picture |
| 23:29.25 | Sandwichman2448 | Azeroth's system? |
| 23:29.37 | Sandwichman2448 | Planets near Azeroth |
| 23:30.00 | Sandwichman2448 | Space by Azeroth |
| 23:30.01 | Bagginsww | Universe? |
| 23:30.17 | Sandwichman2448 | Just that? |
| 23:30.56 | Bagginsww | also honestly does it really have to be a joke ;) I've always suspected that warcraft and starcraft might be in the same universe ;) |
| 23:31.10 | Bagginsww | the warcraft theme plays in Starcraft at times heh heh |
| 23:31.14 | Sandwichman2448 | Titans are just taller Xel'naga. |
| 23:31.34 | Bagginsww | seperate races, :) |
| 23:32.04 | Sandwichman2448 | ...that work at the same IT firm? |
| 23:32.08 | Bagginsww | there have been alot of races said to have 'created' the universe from Old Gods to the Titans |
| 23:32.25 | Sandwichman2448 | Old Gods are Xel'naga? |
| 23:32.29 | Bagginsww | lawl |
| 23:32.52 | Sandwichman2448 | C'Thun looks like the overmind... |
| 23:32.54 | Bagginsww | perhas the Xel'naga never landed on Azeroth, left it for others |
| 23:33.18 | Bagginsww | sure we have seen Zerg on Azeroth :p |
| 23:33.34 | Sandwichman2448 | As pets. |
| 23:33.49 | Bagginsww | hydralisk and zergling in warcraft iii |
| 23:34.06 | Sandwichman2448 | The shredders. |
| 23:34.10 | Bagginsww | and remember the battle between the zergs and the spaceorcs :) |
| 23:34.21 | Sandwichman2448 | Space FEL orcs. |
| 23:34.23 | Bagginsww | still wants space orcs to become its own starcraft race ;) |
| 23:34.50 | Bagginsww | hmm turns out that the zerg/protoss hybrid is actuall a space orc? |
| 23:35.54 | Arrowmaster | we get tauren marines in SC2 |
| 23:35.58 | Sandwichman2448 | No wonder Zeratul wants to kill them, they will ruin all lore. |
| 23:36.02 | Bagginsww | Universe (april fools) |
| 23:36.06 | Sandwichman2448 | K |
| 23:36.16 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 23:36.22 | Arrowmaster | no they confirmed it, we really do get tauren marines in SC2 |
| 23:36.29 | Sandwichman2448 | I know. |
| 23:36.41 | Bagginsww | http://starcraft2.com/features/terran/taurenmarine.xml ;p lol |
| 23:39.09 | Sandwichman2448 | Have you seen the work of Kanaru? |
| 23:39.20 | Bagginsww | have to say I love the artwork for the game |
| 23:39.31 | Sandwichman2448 | waht game? |
| 23:39.36 | Bagginsww | starctaft ii |
| 23:39.45 | Sandwichman2448 | is stupid. |
| 23:39.53 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 23:40.04 | Bagginsww | can't wait though it looks good |
| 23:40.40 | Bagginsww | ooh the water effects |
| 23:41.06 | Sandwichman2448 | I boilerplated Kezan an thought 'If we can get so much stuff from the BlizzCon blurrs, why not a whiteboard?' |
| 23:41.18 | Bagginsww | in anycase I bet those tauren marines will make it into the game as an easter egg. Why bother to create the model for them and not use them somehow? |
| 23:41.41 | Sandwichman2448 | Arrow said it. |
| 23:41.49 | Sandwichman2448 | It is in the editor. |
| 23:42.01 | Arrowmaster | its in one of the faqs on blizzard.com |
| 23:42.07 | Arrowmaster | they said they will be in the editor |
| 23:42.44 | Bagginsww | lol who's idea was it to use the old spelling Kazan for the infobox? |
| 23:42.52 | Bagginsww | cool arrow |
| 23:43.01 | Sandwichman2448 | YOU FIND A BETTER ONE! |
| 23:43.05 | Bagginsww | they better toss in updated space orc, ;) |
| 23:43.23 | Bagginsww | wowmap townhall is better detail without words |
| 23:43.33 | Sandwichman2448 | It needs a cite! |
| 23:43.37 | Bagginsww | though maybe its a stretching problem? |
| 23:44.23 | Bagginsww | but ya its a shame that starcraft ii doesn't introduce a fourth race, ;) I was spoiled by warcraft iii |
| 23:46.09 | Bagginsww | and we need raygun murlocs ;) |
| 23:46.34 | Sandwichman2448 | Murloks |
| 23:47.46 | Bagginsww | Creatures from the future that devolved and live under the earth? |
| 23:47.55 | Sandwichman2448 | Kanaru, Leviathon, or Shandris. I still think could be done. But how to ask? |
| 23:48.13 | Bagginsww | ? |
| 23:48.25 | Sandwichman2448 | I boilerplated Kezan an thought 'If we can get so much stuff from the BlizzCon blurrs, why not a whiteboard?' |
| 23:48.32 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 23:48.45 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 23:48.55 | Sandwichman2448 | 2 topics at once. |
| 23:48.56 | Bagginsww | true |
| 23:49.02 | Bagginsww | I agree with you, why can't people read it |
| 23:49.37 | Bagginsww | there are a dozen whiteboard blurrs from the dvd that should be uh "translated" :p |
| 23:49.52 | Sandwichman2448 | Like the black morass? |
| 23:50.16 | Bagginsww | and the ones that actually have Balor on them |
| 23:50.40 | Bagginsww | many of the older ones would be interesting in order to find out what we didn't get |
| 23:50.49 | Sandwichman2448 | Yup. |
| 23:56.04 | Sandwichman2448 | I did not clean up class ideas like you asked. |
| 23:56.55 | Bagginsww | ahh whenever you feel like doing it :p |
| 23:57.09 | Bagginsww | I understand being busy :p |
| 23:57.29 | Sandwichman2448 | does not want to say he just did not do it. |
| 23:57.55 | Sandwichman2448 | :( |
| 23:59.29 | Sandwichman2448 | I did not figure out how to make it work like the other pages. A lot of info... |
