| 00:02.25 | DuTempete | Arcanedeath, as long as you corrected it, then no worries :P |
| 00:04.59 | Arcanedeath | well... I wasn't able to corrrect all the pages yet. It was an empty line anyways though |
| 00:05.11 | Arcanedeath | didn't change the actual article |
| 00:05.25 | Arcanedeath | since it was before a category |
| 00:05.56 | Arcanedeath | example: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Abyssal_Cloth_Handwraps&diff=prev&oldid=1340810 |
| 00:06.04 | Arcanedeath | is that bad enough to have to dix? |
| 00:06.10 | Arcanedeath | fix* |
| 00:10.05 | DuTempete | oh geez, Arcanedeath, that's not even worth worrying about, let along fixing :P |
| 00:10.55 | DuTempete | s/along/alone |
| 00:12.06 | Arcanedeath | lol ok |
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| 00:17.41 | g0urra | DuTempete, I posted a WW:BR on removing those extra ]] since it looks ugly |
| 00:18.48 | DuTempete | that's cool, they are ugly |
| 00:19.25 | sacarasc | my natural instict there was to shout "YOU'RE UGLY!", but i'm proud i didn't |
| 00:19.56 | DuTempete | I didn't think we were talking abot that, though. We were talking about the newline Arcanedeath's bot put in the wikicode when correcting the extra brackets, G0urra. |
| 00:20.05 | g0urra | aha. |
| 00:20.08 | DuTempete | no, YOU'RE UGLY! |
| 00:20.15 | g0urra | NO U. |
| 00:20.43 | DuTempete | nuh uh! |
| 00:20.45 | DuTempete | cries. |
| 00:20.59 | DuTempete | runs off to ask Kirkburn if she's ugly. |
| 00:21.04 | Arcanedeath | it was only like halfway through the As that it did it |
| 00:21.22 | Arcanedeath | It's on E now |
| 00:21.34 | DuTempete | no worries :P |
| 00:22.34 | Arcanedeath | lol there are almost 3000 for it to check and fix if neccesary |
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| 00:31.28 | Arcanedeath | F... this takes for ever I wish I had faster interwebs |
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| 00:58.23 | Arcanedeath | By "F" I meant I was on the letter F |
| 00:58.36 | Arcanedeath | I just realized that could be taken differently |
| 00:59.36 | Kaso | fuck that, its already im sure noone took offence |
| 00:59.39 | Kaso | oh crap! |
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| 01:14.43 | Kaso | Kalroth, <Kalkatine> I am the Emperor of the Horde, the most powerful force in WOW |
| 01:14.43 | Kaso | <Kalkatine> Its your choice Kirkburn, but if you undo it again you will have to face the consequences of your actions. |
| 01:14.56 | Kaso | -minus Kalroth |
| 01:15.12 | DuTempete | when/where was that said? lol |
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| 01:15.50 | Kaso | it was this morning |
| 01:16.12 | Kaso | i love that quote so much im going to repeat it every day or so just to keep the memory alive |
| 01:18.30 | Keolah | I'm corrupting the youth of Outland. "See, Dornaa? This is a dryad. Isn't she sexy?" |
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| 01:22.40 | pcj | hi DuTempete :) |
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| 01:27.29 | DuTempete | gee, hi pcj |
| 01:27.41 | pcj | wsup |
| 01:28.00 | DuTempete | So, wait a minute Kaso... did this take place on the wiki? |
| 01:28.03 | DuTempete | school |
| 01:28.08 | DuTempete | you? |
| 01:29.59 | Kaso | it was on irc this morning |
| 01:30.04 | Kaso | incoming log spams |
| 01:30.05 | Kaso | May 02 08:37:58 <Kalkatine>Kirkburn |
| 01:30.05 | Kaso | May 02 08:39:32 <Kalkatine>why u keep undoing my work? |
| 01:30.05 | Kaso | May 02 08:41:13 <Kirkburn|sleep>For the reasons given >_> |
| 01:30.05 | Kaso | May 02 08:41:31 <Kirkburn|sleep>WoWWiki is not a place for drama |
| 01:30.05 | Kaso | May 02 08:41:35 <Kalkatine>but then surely you should edit it then, and not just destroy the effort |
| 01:30.07 | Kaso | May 02 08:42:04 <Kirkburn|sleep>When the entirety of the section is an attack on specific players, I would find that very hard |
| 01:30.10 | Kaso | May 02 08:42:30 <Kalkatine>it was not an attack, this is what happened on our server |
| 01:30.12 | Kaso | May 02 08:42:59 <Kirkburn|sleep>To you |
| 01:30.14 | Kaso | May 02 08:43:27 <Kalkatine>I am going to undo it one more time, if you undo it then I will report you for vandalism |
| 01:30.17 | Kaso | May 02 08:43:39 <Kirkburn|sleep>As you have not noticed, I am an admin |
| 01:30.19 | Kaso | May 02 08:44:04 <Kirkburn|sleep>WoWWiki is not a soapbox - we don't allow drama on the wiki, because we cannot moderate it |
| 01:30.24 | Kaso | May 02 08:44:49 <Kirkburn|sleep>The forums are better for that. Server pages are for recording facts about the server, and major events - not squabbles between users. |
| 01:30.27 | Kaso | May 02 08:44:58 <Kalkatine>I am the Emperor of the Horde, the most powerful force in WOW |
| 01:30.29 | Kaso | May 02 08:45:47 <Kalkatine>Its your choice Kirkburn, but if you undo it again you will have to face the consequences of your actions. |
| 01:31.39 | DuTempete | LOL |
| 01:31.57 | Kaso | the last two lines just made me lol so much |
| 01:32.30 | DuTempete | That isn't the first time he has had things like that said to him :P |
| 01:33.11 | DuTempete | He has a few interesting stories about other wikis, where he's primarily a Wikia Helper :P |
| 01:33.26 | Kaso | i can imagen |
| 01:33.32 | g0urra | *cough* helper |
| 01:33.41 | DuTempete | no, Helper |
| 01:33.53 | g0urra | s/helper/Helper/ |
| 01:34.10 | g0urra | better? |
| 01:34.15 | DuTempete | The best one, I think, is about the 11yr old admin, but I won't say anything else :P |
| 01:34.31 | g0urra | oh wow |
| 01:34.45 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 01:34.50 | g0urra | That reminds me of what Kirkburn said last night about he's happy we play an MMORPH |
| 01:35.00 | g0urra | s/RPH/RPG |
| 01:35.04 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 01:35.05 | g0urra | *grumbles* |
| 01:35.15 | DuTempete | we had to learn how to get along with people :P |
| 01:35.17 | g0urra | gimme a sec I'll find the log |
| 01:36.30 | g0urra | yay mini netsplit |
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| 01:36.33 | g0urra | maj 02 03:20:08 <Kirkburn>Why I'm glad ya'll play an MMO: http://callofduty.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log/block |
| 01:36.49 | g0urra | "02:57, 2 May 2008 Rs4life07 (Talk | contribs) blocked Fedarated AK74-u (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 5 seconds" |
| 01:36.52 | g0urra | . . . |
| 01:38.11 | Kaso | i love rationalwiki's blocks; "00:23, 2 May 2008 Caius (Talk | contribs) blocked JMadison (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 314159 secs." "17:27, 29 April 2008 PFoster (Talk | contribs) blocked Jeff Gordon (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 314 hours" |
| 01:38.42 | Arcanedeath | I just read WW:BOLD |
| 01:38.47 | g0urra | "02:33, 2 May 2008 Fedarated AK74-u (Talk | contribs) unblocked Fedarated AK74-u (Talk | contribs) â (We need to slove this TIHS ISNT THE ANSWER IM LOSING MY PAITIENCE YOUR PISSING ME OFF!)" |
| 01:38.49 | g0urra | wow. |
| 01:39.10 | Kaso | Arcanedeath i feel an "and" coming on |
| 01:39.19 | Arcanedeath | I am going to be bold and add my name to the top of every page |
| 01:39.46 | DuTempete | Wow... that deserves a roffles... |
| 01:39.52 | Kaso | Section 1: Be bold! Secontion 2:..but don't be reckless! |
| 01:39.57 | DuTempete | lol Kaso |
| 01:40.18 | Arcanedeath | I started with the village pump |
| 01:40.42 | Arcanedeath | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump |
| 01:41.14 | Kalroth | DuTempete: Didn't you see? Kirkburn is a vandal now! |
| 01:43.11 | DuTempete | haha |
| 01:43.12 | DuTempete | omgz |
| 01:43.21 | DuTempete | What does that make me, Kalroth?! |
| 01:43.28 | Kalroth | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki:Violations&diff=1340227&oldid=1334221 |
| 01:43.28 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki:Violations&diff=1340227&oldid=1334221 zomg |
| 01:43.31 | Kalroth | :P |
| 01:43.31 | g0urra | oi. |
| 01:43.39 | Kalroth | g0urra: 2slow! |
| 01:43.41 | Arcanedeath | lol |
| 01:43.45 | g0urra | >:0 |
| 01:44.01 | g0urra | slaps Kalroth around with a 10 ton killer whale |
| 01:44.10 | Kalroth | undoes g0urra's undoing. |
| 01:44.15 | Kalroth | Clearly he's a vandal! |
| 01:44.25 | DuTempete | seriously, I want to remove that and put in a summary that says, "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" |
| 01:44.30 | g0urra | ~_~ |
| 01:44.31 | infobot | :/ |
| 01:44.33 | Kalroth | haha |
| 01:44.51 | g0urra | hm. |
| 01:44.52 | Arcanedeath | fixt |
| 01:44.52 | g0urra | ~_~ |
| 01:44.53 | infobot | :/ |
| 01:44.56 | g0urra | wow. |
| 01:44.59 | DuTempete | or... |
| 01:45.07 | Kalroth | It was kinda funny though, he came on irc to get help, but ended up arguing it with Kirkburn and Adys :P |
| 01:45.09 | DuTempete | Roffleoffleoffleofflegus. |
| 01:45.23 | DuTempete | lol |
| 01:45.24 | g0urra | gus? |
| 01:45.29 | Arcanedeath | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki:Violations&diff=1341821&oldid=1340246 |
| 01:45.35 | Kalroth | Gravis Ultra Sound |
| 01:45.49 | Kalroth | haha Arcane |
| 01:45.53 | DuTempete | would Roffleoffleoffleofflemus be better? |
| 01:46.03 | Kaso | i want to know what the hell wowwiki spirit is |
| 01:46.04 | Kalroth | I'll undo that before anyone sees it |
| 01:46.08 | Kaso | if not WW:DNP |
| 01:46.10 | Kalroth | and score points! |
| 01:46.11 | Arcanedeath | already done |
| 01:46.15 | DuTempete | LOL |
| 01:46.16 | g0urra | Kalroth: 2slow! |
| 01:46.24 | Kalroth | man! |
| 01:46.46 | Arcanedeath | I can go mess around on irc and arcanebot does work for me! |
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| 01:47.30 | Arcanedeath | wish he could do homework |
| 01:47.32 | DuTempete | oh c'mon G0urra, you're so boring. |
| 01:48.00 | g0urra | yessss. |
| 01:48.05 | DuTempete | besides, my money says he puts it back and then ads you to the vandal list :P |
| 01:48.22 | g0urra | ~_~ |
| 01:48.22 | infobot | :/ |
| 01:49.03 | DuTempete | infobot, no, ~_~ is nothing. |
| 01:49.03 | infobot | okay, DuTempete |
| 01:49.18 | DuTempete | ~_~ |
| 01:49.19 | infobot | :/ |
| 01:49.21 | DuTempete | damnit |
| 01:49.26 | Kalroth | haha |
| 01:49.43 | DuTempete | g0urra! |
| 01:49.56 | g0urra | haha |
| 01:49.58 | g0urra | what? |
| 01:50.06 | DuTempete | grrrr |
| 01:50.09 | g0urra | ~_~ |
| 01:50.10 | infobot | :/ |
| 01:50.37 | Arcanedeath | Do bot edits count toward editing rewards? |
| 01:50.39 | g0urra | chuckles |
| 01:50.47 | Arcanedeath | they should :P |
| 01:50.47 | Kaso | rewards? |
| 01:50.53 | g0urra | rewards? |
| 01:50.54 | Arcanedeath | the stickers |
| 01:50.57 | Kaso | where do i cash in my 8000 edits? |
| 01:51.18 | Kaso | Arcanedeath, bots can have ww club stickers, but bot edits are seperate from your edits |
| 01:51.23 | Arcanedeath | k |
| 01:51.28 | Kaso | like my ex-bot is a memeber of the 5000 club |
| 01:51.52 | Kaso | but i myself are only at like <1000 edits cos i suck |
| 01:52.03 | DuTempete | lol rewards... |
| 01:52.23 | DuTempete | I don't think it's considered a reward if you have to do it yourself... |
| 01:53.13 | Arcanedeath | WHAT?!? no ceremony??? I'm outa here |
| 01:53.24 | Kaso | hehe,funny guy |
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| 01:54.57 | Arcanedeath | heh |
| 01:54.58 | DuTempete | yawns. |
| 01:55.54 | Arcanedeath | is there anyway to find out how many edits you have made without counting contributions pages? |
| 01:56.29 | Kaso | yes |
| 01:57.07 | Arcanedeath | howz? |
| 01:57.19 | DuTempete | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Editcount |
| 01:57.31 | g0urra | or go into your preferences |
| 01:57.36 | g0urra | it's more accurate |
| 01:58.09 | Arcanedeath | ooh nvm found it |
| 01:58.13 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Editcount misses out 277 edits |
| 01:59.38 | Kalroth | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Tarky >< |
| 02:00.11 | Kalroth | I'm pretty sure most of his edits, if not all of them, can be undone |
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| 02:07.41 | Kalroth | Man, there has to be an easier way to mass-undo some wanker :p |
| 02:08.37 | Kaso | if you're an admin you can cant you? |
| 02:08.37 | Arcanedeath | you could write a bot |
| 02:08.38 | Kalroth | I'd hope so :) |
| 02:08.55 | DuTempete | no, kaso, I don't believe admins get a mass undo |
| 02:09.04 | Kaso | oh, how poor |
| 02:09.08 | DuTempete | I've never seen a tool for it |
| 02:09.10 | Kalroth | Arcanedeath: Naw, I'm a newbie to this wiki stuff, I was just repairing a page with ~10 shitty edits |
| 02:09.14 | Arcanedeath | lol what if someone mass-undid a user with 10,000+ edits |
| 02:09.23 | Arcanedeath | it would crash the server for a bit |
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| 02:09.32 | Kalroth | I guess there's a reason that mass-undoing isn't possible :) |
| 02:09.35 | Arcanedeath | and then the wiki would be totally messed up |
| 02:09.55 | g0urra | Kalroth: you mean like rollback? |
| 02:10.09 | Kalroth | g0urra: basically rollback to a specific version, yeah |
| 02:10.19 | g0urra | watchdogs can do that |
| 02:10.28 | DuTempete | well, I'm going to log out, since I'm off to bed, and I don't want to be distracting by you /terribly/ interesting people tomorrow... |
| 02:10.34 | DuTempete | rolls her eyes. |
| 02:10.39 | Kalroth | He had added 10 vandal edits, I undid them, but it was rather tedious :) |
| 02:10.41 | Kalroth | nn DuTempete |
| 02:10.56 | DuTempete | toodles! |
| 02:20.51 | Arcanedeath | wow, bot just crashed |
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| 02:40.10 | Arcanedeath | I just found a bug in a category |
| 02:40.20 | Arcanedeath | nvm |
| 02:40.22 | Arcanedeath | hmm |
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| 05:51.47 | Arcanedeath | heh I have made irc bots before |
| 05:51.58 | Arcanedeath | hard to think of stuff to do though |
| 05:58.54 | Sky2042 | Arcanedeath: hmm? |
| 05:59.29 | Arcanedeath | nothing |
| 05:59.55 | Arcanedeath | Just trying to start a conversation |
| 05:59.58 | Arcanedeath | lol |
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| 06:01.49 | Arcanedeath | I like coding |
| 06:02.11 | Arcanedeath | There is a request to add data from warcraftrealms.com to server pages. Their policy states that "Census data provided by WarcraftRealms.com." must be included on the page. Is this compatible with WoWwiki's policies? -- Arcanedeath 00:40, 3 May 2008 (UTC) |
| 06:02.53 | Sky2042 | Arcanedeath: dunno. as for coding, i can think of a few more things you can do. |
| 06:03.01 | Sky2042 | =] |
| 06:03.26 | Sky2042 | i'm of the opinion those pages shouldn't be put in place. |
| 06:03.44 | Sky2042 | i'm pretty sure the template was changed so that people were to link directly to it. |
| 06:04.06 | Sky2042 | ie, {{infobox server|population=http://warcraft}} etc. |
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| 06:04.39 | Arcanedeath | so what was the thing to do? |
| 06:05.02 | Sky2042 | hmm |
| 06:05.19 | Sky2042 | oh, hmm, there's an idea. |
| 06:06.56 | Arcanedeath | where? |
| 06:07.06 | Sky2042 | shh. |
| 06:07.10 | Arcanedeath | lol |
| 06:07.10 | Sky2042 | one sec. |
| 06:09.00 | Sky2042 | ooo, there's an even better idea |
| 06:09.00 | Sky2042 | i think i might get beaten for even thinking it though. |
| 06:10.08 | Arcanedeath | beats sky. |
| 06:10.56 | Sky2042 | Take /every/ instance of [[Quest:<questname>|<questname>]] and convert it to {{quest|<questname>}} |
| 06:11.32 | Sky2042 | And then we can get rid of that god forsaken pseudo namespace. |
| 06:11.58 | Sky2042 | Hmm... I like it. |
| 06:12.14 | Arcanedeath | EVERY? |
| 06:12.17 | Sky2042 | Yup. |
| 06:12.24 | Sky2042 | That way, we don't have to deal with the redirects. |
| 06:12.50 | Sky2042 | but, like I said, I might get beaten for thinking it. |
| 06:12.50 | Arcanedeath | is there any way to only list pages using that? |
| 06:12.57 | Sky2042 | Not that I know of. |
| 06:13.02 | Arcanedeath | 0_0 |
| 06:13.05 | Sky2042 | ^^ |
| 06:13.18 | Arcanedeath | this could take a while |
| 06:13.40 | Sky2042 | Yar. And you shouldn't start doing it anyway, else I might get eaten. |
| 06:14.18 | Arcanedeath | so do you want to start a discussion on it? |
| 06:14.21 | Sky2042 | Cause, before we did that, I'd like to move every page starting with "Quest:<questname>" to "<questname>" |
| 06:14.31 | Sky2042 | Which you could get a list for |
| 06:15.26 | Sky2042 | And then, after those two things were done, setup an account to delete all [[Quest:]] pages. |
| 06:15.35 | Sky2042 | Dunno how that third would work. |
| 06:15.41 | Sky2042 | that might get me eaten too. |
| 06:16.04 | Arcanedeath | this is becoming scary |
| 06:16.17 | Sky2042 | I know. Isn't it cool? :) |
| 06:16.25 | Arcanedeath | you know you would have to parse _every_ page on WoWWiki |
| 06:16.39 | Arcanedeath | every single one |
| 06:16.47 | Sky2042 | I think you can ask wikia to get them in xml. |
| 06:17.09 | Arcanedeath | just editing 3000 pages today took about 3 hours |
| 06:17.09 | Sky2042 | they do a db parse every week, i think. |
| 06:17.25 | Arcanedeath | my internet connection is the bottleneck |
| 06:17.27 | Sky2042 | what were you doing? >.> |
| 06:17.30 | Sky2042 | Ai... |
| 06:17.45 | Arcanedeath | I was removing extra ]] on cloth iitem pages |
| 06:18.04 | Sky2042 | Ah. |
| 06:18.30 | Sky2042 | 1k pages per hour is 100pgs per 6 min is 16.7 edits a minute. i can get up to about, 15ish using AWB. |
| 06:18.32 | Sky2042 | tops :/ |
| 06:18.54 | Arcanedeath | this is really something that should be done locally on wowwiki servers directly to the db |
| 06:19.08 | Sky2042 | haha, I'm not even sure that's possible. |
| 06:19.13 | Arcanedeath | me either |
| 06:19.23 | Arcanedeath | but it would be ideal |
| 06:19.35 | Sky2042 | We could probably get a couple people to run the bot off their computers... what language is it in? |
| 06:20.08 | Sky2042 | though you'd have to add the addition of telling the bot to work only from x point to x point. |
| 06:20.27 | Arcanedeath | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:About |
| 06:20.30 | Arcanedeath | # 56,097 content pages. |
| 06:21.03 | Sky2042 | and another 80kish in other items. |
| 06:21.06 | Sky2042 | or so? |
| 06:21.26 | Arcanedeath | and it would even have to parse userpages, discussion archives... |
| 06:21.33 | Sky2042 | No, total of 130k |
| 06:21.45 | Sky2042 | so call it another 70k |
| 06:22.05 | Sky2042 | it would sure make that job queue disappear. |
| 06:22.08 | Sky2042 | chuckles. |
| 06:22.55 | Sky2042 | Ok, here's a more sizable one. |
| 06:24.10 | Sky2042 | Delete every page listed at http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Prefixindex/Template:Spell: |
| 06:24.17 | Sky2042 | bah |
| 06:24.29 | Sky2042 | copy paste that (including the last colon |
| 06:24.30 | Sky2042 | ) |
| 06:25.05 | Arcanedeath | my irc client links it fine |
| 06:25.15 | Sky2042 | which client? |
| 06:25.24 | Arcanedeath | X-Chat Aqua |
| 06:25.44 | Sky2042 | mm... |
| 06:25.59 | Arcanedeath | btw does wowwiki use header redirects? |
| 06:26.21 | Sky2042 | header redirects? |
| 06:26.46 | Arcanedeath | 3 types of redirects: |
| 06:26.49 | Arcanedeath | header |
| 06:26.53 | Arcanedeath | meta tag |
| 06:26.59 | Arcanedeath | javascript |
| 06:27.19 | Arcanedeath | There is a redirect http header |
| 06:27.32 | Arcanedeath | Location: <url> |
| 06:27.33 | Sky2042 | I don't know... all we use is the standard wiki redirect; i'm unsure of how it works. |
| 06:27.39 | Arcanedeath | I think it is |
| 06:27.48 | Arcanedeath | kk |
| 06:28.04 | Arcanedeath | so do I just add a speedy delete tag to them? |
| 06:28.18 | Arcanedeath | and do I leave the redirect as it is? |
| 06:28.59 | Sky2042 | er... hmm. |
| 06:29.02 | Arcanedeath | I don't think I have direct delete ability |
| 06:29.12 | Sky2042 | you don't. and that's what i'm wondering about. |
| 06:29.34 | Sky2042 | is this the first wiki you've worked on? |
| 06:30.01 | Arcanedeath | I have used wikipedia a bit but not on a large scale |
| 06:30.19 | Sky2042 | hmm... |
| 06:30.22 | Sky2042 | something to wonder about. |
| 06:31.57 | Sky2042 | the issue is that there are so many that i don't konw that any admin would want to delete them by hand. |
| 06:32.21 | Arcanedeath | you have php installed? |
| 06:32.43 | Arcanedeath | I could just give code to you |
| 06:33.12 | Sky2042 | I don't, nor am I sure I'd want to do it on a non-bot account, which is what I'd have to do. |
| 06:33.18 | Sky2042 | atm, anyway. |
| 06:33.27 | Sky2042 | that's the crux of it, of course. |
| 06:33.57 | Sky2042 | if your bot was +admined, you wouldn't need to let someone else run it, ofc. but, you haven't really been around long enough... |
| 06:33.58 | Sky2042 | sigh. |
| 06:34.54 | Sky2042 | Start a thread on the VP would be the thing to do. |
| 06:35.26 | Sky2042 | ignore the whole quest thing for the time being. |
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| 06:37.14 | Arcanedeath | you could temporarily admin it |
| 06:37.35 | Arcanedeath | and it would only edit thoe pages during that time span |
| 06:38.12 | Arcanedeath | but trust takes time to be earned, so I understand |
| 06:38.14 | Sky2042 | Well, I couldn't, and yes, that would work, but what's the point? If we're going to trust you to run a bot with +admin, why not just let the bot keep the +a? |
| 06:38.16 | Sky2042 | Hehe. |
| 06:38.27 | Arcanedeath | lol |
| 06:39.10 | Arcanedeath | it's the same reason you don't always run as root in unix |
| 06:46.45 | Arcanedeath | hey this is a good place to raise my edit count http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Boilerplating_requests |
| 06:46.55 | Arcanedeath | has to be done manually too |
| 06:47.29 | Sky2042 | if you're gonna up your edit count, yeah just about anything in http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:To_do will work. |
| 06:48.25 | Sky2042 | and obviously that linked one doesn't work... |
| 06:48.53 | Arcanedeath | lol |
| 06:48.57 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Things_to_do |
| 06:53.36 | Sky2042 | anyway, i'm off for the night. |
| 06:53.56 | Sky2042 | leave a note about this at VP, see what others think. I'm sure they'll all think I'm on crack or something. |
| 06:54.13 | Sky2042 | (s' what i get for being a liberal, i think) |
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| 07:42.19 | Adys | [04:09:14] <Arcanedeath> lol what if someone mass-undid a user with 10,000+ edits |
| 07:42.35 | Adys | yeah, wish it never happened |
| 07:43.00 | Adys | not 10k+ but still above five hundred it leaves scars |
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| 08:37.05 | sancus | tries it |
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| 10:44.35 | [Liq] | Hi everyone :-) |
| 10:45.10 | g0urra | hey [Liq] |
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| 12:01.16 | Kirkburn | Morning |
| 12:01.37 | Kirkburn | kd3 has been quiet recently |
| 12:02.09 | Kirkburn | Anyway, polls appear to be a resounding success, I don't care if people can cheat - it's just a sodding poll. It's even at the end of the page :P |
| 12:02.22 | Kirkburn | There's a new version coming, anyway |
| 12:02.40 | Kirkburn | Which you can see on http://gamergear.wikia.com/wiki/GamerGear_Wiki |
| 12:02.45 | Kirkburn | (bottom-right) |
| 12:05.23 | Fisker- | what polls? |
| 12:06.16 | Kaso | That poll seems to be missing the only correct anwser for a gamer |
| 12:06.28 | Kaso | "I make my own PC fool, and its awesome" |
| 12:06.34 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 12:06.45 | Kirkburn | We've got a request to allow more options |
| 12:06.51 | Kirkburn | Limited to 5 atm, unfortunately |
| 12:07.09 | Fisker- | i'm gonna use a mac just to obvious troll |
| 12:07.18 | Kaso | polls with too man options arent really a good idea though, waters down the effect i think when you've got 10 options each with a few % |
| 12:07.51 | Kirkburn | True, but sometimes you reeeally need 6 or 7 |
| 12:07.54 | Kirkburn | Like monitor sizes |
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| 12:08.58 | Kirochi | tadaaa |
| 12:09.39 | Kalroth | Boo! |
| 12:13.06 | Kirochi | fears |
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| 13:00.11 | amro | Kirochi: isn't that the sound win95 makes when booting? |
| 13:06.46 | Kirochi | mebbe |
| 13:06.55 | Kirochi | I first booted on 98, you know |
| 13:07.31 | Kirochi | till then it was my father who lit the pc in the morning and turned it off late in the evening |
| 13:07.39 | g0urra | what sound does a mac do? |
| 13:07.48 | Kirochi | playin' Sid Meier's Civilization all day long |
| 13:08.04 | Kirochi | g0urra> something like a fart, only uglier |
| 13:08.13 | g0urra | k |
| 13:09.51 | Kirochi | <= mac hater, though I like Fandyllic's strange fashions |
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| 13:15.13 | Kirochi | kirkburn, what's the interlanguage template already please? |
| 13:15.38 | Kirkburn | Preferably don't use it |
| 13:16.17 | Kirkburn | Use interwiki language links if possible |
| 13:16.27 | Kirkburn | [[fr:ARTICLE]] |
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| 13:33.09 | Kirochi | thanks! |
| 13:33.17 | Kirochi | well if you don't like it |
| 13:33.48 | Kirochi | would you rather tell me what better way there is to use the interwiki thing with my french wowwiki user page? |
| 13:36.39 | Kirochi | and, pardon my English, there's a shitload of doublet templates >< |
| 13:38.05 | Kirkburn | doublet? |
| 13:38.15 | Kirkburn | Two templates doing the same thing? |
| 13:38.28 | Kirkburn | The lang thing is a problems since the interwikis only apply to wikia wikis |
| 13:38.43 | Kirkburn | (however, the french one moved to us, solving that problem) |
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| 13:44.58 | Kiro`out | oik thx I'll cope with that when back |
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| 14:08.11 | Kirkburn | Ose|afk, something for that featured user content idea? http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Featured_article/Media#Video |
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| 14:51.16 | Ose | has a brand new 500gb hard drive :D |
| 14:58.11 | Fisker- | gonna has 2 brand new 1TB hard drive |
| 14:58.12 | Fisker- | s |
| 15:01.43 | Ose | well, my comp is 226 gigs, so I can backup the whole thing twice if I wanted :P |
| 15:01.49 | Ose | could* |
| 15:02.18 | Ose | Kirkburn: http://www.wowwiki.com/RSS_feeds headers work fine? |
| 15:03.20 | Kirkburn | aye |
| 15:07.40 | Kirkburn | pcj, request |
| 15:07.58 | Kirkburn | On http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kirkburn/global.js how do I make it so it supports wikis with /wiki/ |
| 15:08.00 | pcj | what |
| 15:08.35 | Kirkburn | Although, it's not loading that on wowwiki either, hrm |
| 15:08.55 | pcj | loading what |
| 15:08.58 | Kirkburn | http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kirkburn/global.js and http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kirkburn/global.css will load on every Wikia wiki |
| 15:09.09 | Kirkburn | That's the AJAX RC list code |
| 15:09.39 | pcj | mmm |
| 15:09.45 | Kirkburn | It's not loading anywhere, but I'm not sure why |
| 15:11.53 | Kirkburn | I lie, it's loading everywhere I go on central, replacing the page contents with the RC list >_< |
| 15:12.21 | pcj | lol you're calling it wrong |
| 15:12.29 | pcj | you have to do it onload if it's special:recentchanges |
| 15:12.40 | Kirkburn | I forgot your wrapping code, d'oh |
| 15:13.09 | Ose | zomg playxpert? |
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| 15:13.31 | Kirochi | w00t |
| 15:13.50 | pcj | ofc kirkburn loadJS won't work outside wowwiki btw |
| 15:13.58 | Kirkburn | why? |
| 15:14.09 | pcj | because i've defined that |
| 15:14.09 | pcj | brb |
| 15:16.13 | Ose | this brings up the question, what kind of browser does PLAYXPERT use? their own type? |
| 15:20.06 | Ose | ^Kirkburn? |
| 15:21.10 | Kirkburn | dunno |
| 15:21.15 | Kirkburn | Probably IE |
| 15:21.23 | Ose | d'oh |
| 15:21.36 | Ose | perhaps they'll let us choose |
| 15:21.46 | Ose | hopes |
| 15:22.41 | Kirkburn | That's the normal method, because it's always available to Windows edevelopers |
| 15:22.43 | Fisker- | got damnit |
| 15:26.24 | Ose | in my IE OseBot is automatically logged in (AWB) |
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| 15:44.47 | Kirkburn | Yay for email, helped someone log in and at the same time fixed an IE6 bug |
| 15:46.28 | Fisker- | that's not good news at all! |
| 15:46.42 | Kaso | couldnt you have told them to stop using such a security risking browser at the same time :( |
| 15:46.50 | Kirkburn | I did indeed |
| 15:46.54 | Kaso | ah good good |
| 15:47.03 | Kirkburn | Told them to get Firefox, and upgrade to IE7 even if they hate it |
| 15:47.22 | Kaso | Using IE6 seems like driving in a destruction derby without even a seatbelt |
| 15:47.58 | Fisker- | If they're using IE chances are they probably don't hate it |
| 15:47.58 | Fisker- | duh |
| 15:48.17 | Kirkburn | Yes, they told me they HATE IE7. Hate in red letters. |
| 15:48.29 | Kaso | what? how why hu? |
| 15:48.40 | Fisker- | so wait what, they're actually downgrading to IE6? |
| 15:48.41 | Kaso | you can even use IE7 in the IE6 skin cant you? |
| 15:49.02 | Kirkburn | no, they have IE6 already Fisker- |
| 15:49.27 | Kirkburn | Kaso, yes, but I'm assuming since she doesn't have Firefox that would be an exercise in pointlessness |
| 15:50.35 | Adys | :/ |
| 15:50.45 | Kaso | Hmm? running IE7 but in a way that looks like IE6 is just what she needs isnt it? excluding alternative browser possibilities |
| 15:50.50 | Adys | playxpert embeds trident |
| 15:52.09 | Kirkburn | (which is basically IE) |
| 15:52.19 | Adys | yea |
| 15:52.47 | Ose | is there a set color for dark purple? |
| 15:53.29 | Kirkburn | is there a set color for lime green? |
| 15:53.35 | Kirkburn | Does that make /any/ sense? |
| 15:53.58 | Kirkburn | Set by whom, Browsers? Adobe? :) |
| 15:54.05 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 15:54.13 | Fisker- | i hope you can buy SC2 in the new Blizzard store |
| 15:54.22 | Fisker- | for digital download of course |
| 15:54.22 | Ose | like "darkgreen" and "teal" |
| 15:54.59 | Kirkburn | ose, can depend on the browser |
| 15:55.05 | Kirkburn | Hex codes are far safer |
| 15:56.28 | Kalroth | oi Kirkburn, I bet you know |
| 15:56.41 | Kaso | heh, on the "recent UAs" list of "whatismyuseragent.com" : <script>document.location.replace('http://www.paysites.nl/sites/hdkutjes_v1/movies/1/4.jpg');</script> (Netherlands) |
| 15:56.48 | Kaso | nice try there but still phail |
| 15:57.29 | Kalroth | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=M%27uru_%28tactics%29&action=history <- I some un-vandalising, but it took some time. Is it only watchdogs (or higher) that can revert to a specific revision? |
| 15:58.01 | Kaso | couldnt have you have manually reverted it? |
| 15:58.11 | Kalroth | I did undo it |
| 15:58.31 | Ose | open the last correct versions edit window and save? |
| 15:58.35 | Kaso | i mean like that ^ |
| 15:58.36 | Kalroth | I would have done it in one go, but he did too many changes for me to track |
| 15:58.40 | Kalroth | Oh |
| 15:58.49 | Kalroth | I could just have done that? >< |
| 15:58.54 | Kaso | yes, |
| 15:59.02 | Kalroth | slaps Ose for not saying so. |
| 15:59.06 | Kaso | you could also change the ids in the undo url if you want |
| 15:59.15 | Fisker- | lol |
| 15:59.29 | Fisker- | just checked my collection of games collecting dust |
| 15:59.49 | Fisker- | and i saw i had Black & White 2 Collectors Edition |
| 15:59.53 | Fisker- | i don't even recall buying the game |
| 15:59.57 | Fisker- | i thought i warezed it :< |
| 16:00.39 | Kirkburn | Kalroth, it's even written on the history screen :P |
| 16:00.51 | Kirkburn | "Image:Icon-revert-22x22.png To revert vandalism, open the last correct version (click on the date), hit edit on that page and save it with an appropriate note!" |
| 16:00.58 | Ose | last time I did that, I found this old game and I thought i'd try it again, but was disappointed to find that it simply did not work with the pc |
| 16:01.09 | Kalroth | I read that as "To report vandalism" >< |
| 16:01.30 | Kirkburn | Although, that's not entirely correct now |
| 16:01.37 | Kirkburn | You can click undo instead |
| 16:01.56 | amro | http://www.koreus.com/video/boomerang-espace.html |
| 16:02.10 | Ose | that's for ONE vandalism |
| 16:02.28 | Kirkburn | Ose, yeah, adding that note |
| 16:02.33 | Kalroth | I didn't notice it at first, because he had submitted a legit looking edit |
| 16:02.49 | Kalroth | But then he added 16 phases in different order :P |
| 16:04.31 | Kirkburn | Adys, got more SVG icons coming? |
| 16:04.41 | Ose | anyone know of any high-quality fanfic/etc around? |
| 16:05.24 | amro | Ose: I once had a good site but lost the link... if you find anything, please throw it my way :) |
| 16:05.57 | Ose | i'm thinking of in-wiki stuff |
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| 16:06.15 | Ose | for http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Dev |
| 16:06.23 | Ose | hey PanSola |
| 16:06.53 | Kirkburn | Updated the note, e.g. http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category:SVG_icons&action=history |
| 16:07.22 | Ose | lol, my lolcats are being backupped, and the little window in the corner is showing me all the names :P |
| 16:07.37 | Kirkburn | Ose, did you see my earlier note? |
| 16:07.40 | Ose | "youstillmad.jpg" |
| 16:07.53 | Ose | what note? |
| 16:08.05 | g0urra | is it just me or is {{ss}} broken? |
| 16:08.07 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Featured_article/Media#Video |
| 16:08.12 | g0urra | the image is larger than the tooltip |
| 16:08.18 | g0urra | also the "blip" doesn't show |
| 16:08.26 | Kirkburn | Blip? |
| 16:08.35 | Kirkburn | Bullet? |
| 16:08.51 | Ose | uhm, Kirkburn, how could we possibly fit a youtube window into the sidebar? |
| 16:08.51 | g0urra | you know, the yellow dot on the map |
| 16:09.01 | Kirkburn | Ose, how do you think I currently do it? :P |
| 16:09.18 | Kirkburn | g0urra, talking about http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Screenshot right? |
| 16:09.21 | Ose | you are? |
| 16:09.26 | Ose | can they be resized? |
| 16:09.27 | g0urra | yeah..it's the same as {{ss}} |
| 16:09.29 | Kirkburn | ose, you can resize youtube stuff |
| 16:09.34 | Ose | kewl |
| 16:09.36 | Kirkburn | g0urra, then what blip? |
| 16:09.55 | g0urra | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=13082 |
| 16:09.57 | g0urra | look at the map |
| 16:10.01 | g0urra | see the yellow dot? |
| 16:10.06 | Kirkburn | Ose, see http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:FM&action=edit |
| 16:10.11 | Ose | hmm... the original idea was to use wowwiki userstuff only though... |
| 16:10.15 | Kirkburn | g0urra, that's got nothing to do with {{ss}} |
| 16:10.24 | Ose | we could get beckman to register :P |
| 16:10.36 | g0urra | then see http://www.wowwiki.com/Milton_Beats and hover over the coords |
| 16:11.02 | g0urra | the map is bigger than the tooltip box, and the "blip" doesn't show |
| 16:11.30 | g0urra | and it's not just that article, I've noticed the same problem on other pages |
| 16:12.12 | Kirkburn | Oh right, well, it's still got nothing to do with {{s}} |
| 16:12.30 | g0urra | how does it possibly not do that? |
| 16:12.36 | Kirkburn | It's http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Co |
| 16:12.43 | g0urra | ugh I mean {{co}} |
| 16:12.51 | Ose | lol kirkburn |
| 16:12.55 | Ose | "something" |
| 16:13.19 | Ose | we should just make one central features page |
| 16:13.27 | g0urra | well _{{co}}_ is broken then |
| 16:13.30 | Ose | with info on all three |
| 16:13.43 | Kirkburn | So ... http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Featured_article |
| 16:13.49 | Ose | yup |
| 16:14.04 | Ose | rename to "Features"? |
| 16:14.41 | Ose | plus it will have to be reorganized to describe the new system correctly |
| 16:14.52 | Kirkburn | g0urra, checking |
| 16:15.19 | Ose | heh, Sandwichman liked my Cashbringer image :D |
| 16:17.12 | Kirkburn | Old image links no longer work, blip should be fixed |
| 16:17.35 | Kirkburn | Width thing I dunno |
| 16:20.49 | Kirkburn | pcj, ping for co-ord problems - see http://www.wowwiki.com/Milton_Beats ... tooltip is undersized, blip is missing (though I thought I'd fixed the link for that) |
| 16:22.28 | g0urra | nope blip is still missing Kirkburn |
| 16:22.54 | Kirkburn | ah, er ... sec |
| 16:27.02 | Kirkburn | okay, blip fixed |
| 16:27.13 | Kirkburn | Size issue is beyond me |
| 16:30.17 | Kirochi | it amazes me how such an accurate and scale-relying feature could ever work on a wiki :p |
| 16:30.31 | Ose | Kirkburn: why <br style="clear:both"/> instead of {{clr}}? |
| 16:30.42 | Kirkburn | insanity |
| 16:30.46 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 16:30.58 | foxlit | instead of <br clear="both"/> ? |
| 16:31.10 | Kirkburn | I like using style more |
| 16:31.28 | Kirochi | oh, insanity's not a problem there |
| 16:31.53 | Kirochi | the leading crew is composed of crazy people anyway |
| 16:33.44 | Kirkburn | o_O O_O O_o |
| 16:34.26 | pcj | did you fix it kirkburn or are you done messing around with js |
| 16:34.34 | Kirkburn | not the width issue |
| 16:34.50 | Kirkburn | The blip was just a link pointing the wrong place |
| 16:35.19 | Kirkburn | Forgot you have the rev code method of checking stuff in - good idea |
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| 16:35.52 | Kirkburn | The old image locations have been entirely switched off now - it was probably a result of one of the upgrades |
| 16:36.22 | Fisker- | omg Kirkburn |
| 16:36.28 | Kirkburn | Oh, and where's the loadJS thing? |
| 16:36.28 | Fisker- | what happened to kd3? ;_; |
| 16:37.22 | Kirkburn | I'm sure he's just busy |
| 16:37.54 | Kirkburn | ~seen kd3 |
| 16:37.55 | infobot | kd3 <n=kd3@host-12-173-142-252.nctv.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 4d 44m 34s ago, saying: 'ya, shandris just asked about that on VP too'. |
| 16:38.58 | pcj | ok, coords is working now |
| 16:39.45 | pcj | loadJS is defined in http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Pcj/tooltip.js |
| 16:40.55 | Kirkburn | Awesome |
| 16:40.56 | Kirkburn | Thanks :) |
| 16:41.05 | Kirkburn | My global js - http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kirkburn/global.js |
| 16:41.26 | Kirkburn | yes, I know it can be simpler |
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| 16:43.40 | pcj | kirkburn: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kirkburn/ajaxrc.js |
| 16:43.44 | pcj | changegetRCDataRO.open("GET", "http://" + location.hostname + "/Special:Recentchanges" + location.search, true); |
| 16:43.46 | pcj | err |
| 16:43.48 | pcj | change |
| 16:43.48 | pcj | getRCDataRO.open("GET", "http://" + location.hostname + "/Special:Recentchanges" + location.search, true); |
| 16:43.51 | pcj | to |
| 16:44.07 | pcj | getRCDataRO.open("GET", "http://" + location.hostname + wgArticlePath.replace("$1", "") + "Special:Recentchanges" + location.search, true); |
| 16:44.56 | Kirkburn | It's working on http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Recentchanges |
| 16:45.02 | Kirkburn | But not on http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Recentchanges |
| 16:45.03 | pcj | of course that'll still royally screw up if the particular wiki uses the style /index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges |
| 16:45.03 | pcj | But w/e |
| 16:45.14 | pcj | Hmm |
| 16:45.21 | Kirkburn | Nah, all Wikia wikis are on /wiki/Special:Recentchanges |
| 16:46.20 | Kirkburn | Due to the change of www not wikia ? |
| 16:46.26 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoW_Model_Viewer can somebody check if i'm 100% correct on the image guidelines? |
| 16:48.12 | Kaso | perhaps the "sample screenshots" should conform to those guidelines, or at least some of them |
| 16:48.47 | Kirkburn | Yeah, er that would help :P |
| 16:49.07 | Kirkburn | Critter images work, I think there's more on some of the create and dragon pages |
| 16:49.29 | Kirkburn | *creature |
| 16:50.17 | Ose | I was just adding a note about the fact they were bad :P |
| 16:50.30 | Ose | ugh, thanks for correcting my typos |
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| 16:58.34 | foxlit | I want a white horse :( |
| 16:58.54 | foxlit | Wonder if the GM staff would object to that request |
| 17:00.49 | foxlit | "The latest version (v0.5.09c) stems from January 27th, 2008. |
| 17:00.49 | foxlit | " |
| 17:01.55 | Kirkburn | What does? |
| 17:02.01 | Kirkburn | That version came out on 15 Apr 2008 |
| 17:02.17 | Kirkburn | The item list, maybe? |
| 17:02.33 | foxlit | I wasn't really complaining about factual accuracy |
| 17:03.15 | foxlit | You can't stem from a time |
| 17:03.22 | Kirkburn | Ah, didn't realise it was on the article |
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| 17:04.32 | Kirkburn | pcj, location.hostname ... what should that output? |
| 17:04.50 | foxlit | http://_this portion_/ of the url |
| 17:05.18 | Kirkburn | Wondering why http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kirkburn/ajaxrc.js does't work on non-central wikia |
| 17:05.36 | Kirkburn | It's fine on http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Recentchanges but not http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Recentchanges |
| 17:06.09 | Kirkburn | oh, duh |
| 17:06.14 | Kirkburn | sec |
| 17:07.29 | Kirkburn | I know why, it's cause I can't load http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kirkburn/ajaxrc.js off central |
| 17:09.25 | Ose | why? |
| 17:09.33 | Kirkburn | Just due to the coding |
| 17:09.44 | Kirkburn | Wondering how I can condense the code into just global.js |
| 17:10.37 | Ose | Kirkburn: why not use http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:MediaWiki_1.12_changes#Global_css_and_js ? |
| 17:11.10 | Kirkburn | What do you think I'm doing :P |
| 17:11.39 | Kirkburn | zomg, it works |
| 17:11.55 | Kirkburn | or not possibly not |
| 17:12.38 | Kirkburn | Will be able to tell you in about a minute or two |
| 17:13.24 | Kirkburn | Well, it's looking okay so far - I have http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kirkburn/global.js |
| 17:15.50 | pcj | lol kirkburn |
| 17:16.14 | Kirkburn | The basic priciples of code, I get :P |
| 17:16.25 | Kirkburn | Doesn't mean I can write clean JS though :) |
| 17:16.33 | pcj | delete the outer function and just make it |
| 17:16.43 | pcj | if (wgPageName == "Special:Recentchanges") addOnloadHook(loadRCData); |
| 17:17.01 | pcj | but w/e |
| 17:18.19 | Ose | lol, I thought I was soon done backuping, but no |
| 17:18.55 | Kirkburn | Just make what that? |
| 17:19.12 | Ose | 2675 items stores = 7,5gb ... 727 items left = 37,4gb |
| 17:19.47 | pcj | delete: |
| 17:19.52 | pcj | function ajaxRC() { |
| 17:19.53 | pcj | if (wgPageName == "Special:Recentchanges") |
| 17:20.02 | pcj | loadRCData(); |
| 17:20.02 | Kirkburn | Was going to suggest pastey :P |
| 17:20.05 | pcj | loadRCData(); |
| 17:20.17 | pcj | change addOnloadHook(ajaxRC); |
| 17:20.20 | pcj | to |
| 17:20.25 | pcj | if (wgPageName == "Special:Recentchanges") addOnloadHook(loadRCData);' |
| 17:20.27 | pcj | bah |
| 17:20.29 | pcj | if (wgPageName == "Special:Recentchanges") addOnloadHook(loadRCData); |
| 17:21.38 | Ose | Kirkburn: do you know what the template limit for pages are? |
| 17:21.52 | Kirkburn | There is no template limit |
| 17:22.06 | Ose | you sure? |
| 17:22.11 | pcj | well if there is it's over 9000 |
| 17:22.15 | Ose | there WAS one? |
| 17:22.42 | Kirkburn | pcj, like so http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kirkburn/global.js ? |
| 17:23.05 | Ose | I remember http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:List_of_user_templates was so long that the templates at the bottom wasn't transcluded |
| 17:23.10 | Kirkburn | It doesn't appear to be working |
| 17:23.23 | Ose | after that we started merging tempaltes |
| 17:23.26 | Kirkburn | Ose, really? I don't recall any such situation |
| 17:24.17 | Ose | we fixed it by merging templates to {{Use profession}} and {{User classcombo}} and etc |
| 17:24.30 | Ose | s/Use/User/ |
| 17:25.50 | Ose | i'm starting to fear it's going to happen again though, the list is pretty long... |
| 17:26.10 | Ose | if so we'd propably have to subpage something |
| 17:27.47 | Kirkburn | pcj, what do you think of the idea of putting the RC list refresher live for everyone? |
| 17:29.12 | pcj | it would be simple but idk what it does to load |
| 17:30.53 | Kirkburn | k, no matter for onw |
| 17:30.55 | Kirkburn | *now |
| 17:32.36 | Ose | we could put a note on the top of the RC page about it, then people who wanted it could go get it |
| 17:33.09 | pcj | I could make the JS load by default but not enabled |
| 17:34.06 | Kirkburn | That'd be sensible |
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| 17:36.47 | Ose | Kirkburn: what's with the double list on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Featured_article/Media ? |
| 17:36.53 | Kirkburn | I'm working on it |
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| 17:46.03 | Kirkburn | pcj, what is the refresh rate? |
| 17:46.31 | Kirkburn | 60000 is 60 seconds? |
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| 17:56.48 | Kirkburn | pcj, http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kirkburn/global.js just doesn't seem to work |
| 17:57.05 | Kirkburn | The AJAX insertion stuff works, but it never refreshes the RC list |
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| 19:07.38 | Arcanedeath | hello? |
| 19:07.43 | Arcanedeath | oh |
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| 19:20.35 | Arcanedeath | lol someone thinks wowwiki is a forum XD http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Instructor_Razuvious&curid=38416&diff=1342630&oldid=1342629#Instructor_Razuvious_at_Level_70 |
| 19:21.10 | pcj | it's not really that funny... |
| 19:21.54 | Arcanedeath | Its like totally not wikified though |
| 19:22.06 | Arcanedeath | it's funny because of how out of place it looks |
| 19:23.15 | Kaso | i loved razuvious |
| 19:23.31 | Kaso | great fun |
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| 19:33.06 | winkiller | woohoo, my statistics start to shape up |
| 19:33.13 | winkiller | 0.3% of chars are Troll Warriors |
| 19:35.02 | Arcanedeath | biased vandalism... http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Hunter&diff=1342624&oldid=1340465 |
| 19:35.29 | Arcanedeath | hunters actually have good representation even when normalized with population http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103773379&sid=1&pageNo=4 |
| 19:36.27 | winkiller | I grabbed all chars from eu raiding guilds. not arena |
| 19:36.41 | winkiller | will get US chars next week probably |
| 19:40.47 | foxlit | er, Arcandeath, the edit is essentially true according to the post you linked |
| 19:41.04 | foxlit | There's some minor prolems with mages and shamans in 2v2 |
| 19:41.20 | foxlit | but otherwise, hunters have the lowest percentages all to themselves in 3/5 |
| 19:41.37 | foxlit | Or myabe not :) |
| 19:41.47 | foxlit | Paladins lose 3v3, hunters lose 5v5 |
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| 19:44.31 | foxlit | Alternatively, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103773379&sid=1&pageNo=13#254 |
| 19:44.36 | foxlit | hunters lose all three. |
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| 19:47.18 | Arcanedeath | he specifically said over 2000 |
| 19:47.42 | Arcanedeath | and that means bad teams don't have hunters |
| 19:47.44 | foxlit | Then your linked post is irrelevant. |
| 19:47.53 | foxlit | Since that's at 2200+ |
| 19:48.03 | Arcanedeath | well he meant good teams |
| 19:48.45 | Arcanedeath | It really needs a source to be included there anyways |
| 19:49.31 | Arcanedeath | I could edit Illidan and say he was lactose intolerant and no one owuld be able to disprove me |
| 19:50.40 | Fisker- | Paladins always lose ;_; |
| 19:51.26 | foxlit | Arcanedeath: it is unsourced; but given that similar figures exist, I wouldn't quite call it biased vandalism |
| 19:52.00 | Arcanedeath | maybe I overreacted |
| 19:52.26 | Arcanedeath | but it looked like they were just trying to make hunters look more UP |
| 19:52.32 | Arcanedeath | Sorry for that though |
| 19:52.58 | foxlit | I suspect this is the actual source: http://www.realmhistory.net/arena-statistics/class-breakdown.html |
| 19:54.14 | foxlit | Combined with http://www.warcraftrealms.com/weeklyactivity.php |
| 19:54.40 | Arcanedeath | hunters aren't the most popular class at 70 though |
| 19:54.47 | Arcanedeath | warriors are |
| 19:54.56 | foxlit | [citation needed] |
| 19:54.57 | Arcanedeath | and since only 70s can do arena |
| 19:55.00 | Arcanedeath | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=-1&factionid=-1&minlevel=70&maxlevel=70&servertypeid=-1 |
| 19:55.27 | Arcanedeath | I was getting to it |
| 19:55.36 | foxlit | Is a 0.8% difference statistically significant? |
| 19:56.28 | Arcanedeath | well it means hunters aren't the most played class, you would have to reword it slightly. I am going to add the sources and do that |
| 19:57.26 | foxlit | They are, literary, the most played class. |
| 19:59.06 | Arcanedeath | yes, but that doesn't matter when it comes to arena |
| 19:59.19 | Arcanedeath | it matters who is most popular at 70 |
| 19:59.43 | Arcanedeath | So in context the implication is false |
| 20:00.42 | Ose | gah |
| 20:00.51 | Ose | wants a dropdown skin menu |
| 20:01.48 | foxlit | There's still an issue of activity vs bank alts |
| 20:02.41 | foxlit | So you're more interested in which classes actually get played at 70 |
| 20:07.30 | Arcanedeath | Only 70s can do arena |
| 20:07.56 | pcj | ok kirkburn ajax rc should now be easily available for everyone |
| 20:08.03 | Ose | anyone else see something wrong with armagons sig on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Signature/Parade ? |
| 20:08.41 | Arcanedeath | This look good? http://www.wowwiki.com/Hunter |
| 20:09.03 | Arcanedeath | yup it shows the url |
| 20:10.05 | Arcanedeath | or not url but it is a bit lengthy |
| 20:10.11 | Arcanedeath | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Armagon/Sig |
| 20:10.38 | Arcanedeath | (Talk Contributions) would look much better |
| 20:10.58 | Arcanedeath | I need to learn to say stuff on one line |
| 20:11.09 | Kirkburn|afk | pcj, easily available or active by default? |
| 20:11.25 | pcj | easily available, the script loads and is ready to run but not enabled |
| 20:11.58 | Kirkburn|afk | ah, I see the tickbox |
| 20:12.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Good stuff :) |
| 20:17.47 | Fisker- | slaps Kirkburn|afk around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:17.54 | Fisker- | what sorcery is this? |
| 20:19.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Awesome sorcery |
| 20:20.24 | Fisker- | nah |
| 20:20.27 | Fisker- | fireballs are awesome |
| 20:20.37 | Fisker- | typing on a keyboard while being away from the keyboard is NOT awesome |
| 20:20.38 | Fisker- | :o |
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| 20:21.04 | Kirkburn|afk | pcj, http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kirkburn/global.js hates me |
| 20:21.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Updated, it doesn't even show the checkbox |
| 20:22.05 | pcj | Does it throw an error? |
| 20:22.13 | Kirkburn|afk | not afaik |
| 20:22.32 | winkiller | http://census.monohedron.de/ |
| 20:24.04 | pcj | Does it work when you put it in the local wiki user JS |
| 20:24.49 | Kirkburn|afk | will try |
| 20:25.47 | winkiller | Kirkburn|afk: who do I have to nag for account merge? I already posted that I can't figure out if wikia-Armagon is me.. but I could provide a list of emails/domains to check that |
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| 20:25.59 | Kirkburn|afk | It's the weekend, dude :) |
| 20:26.20 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn|afk: i am poaking u cuz i haz q. |
| 20:26.26 | Kirkburn|afk | sup? |
| 20:26.29 | winkiller | posted 1.5. |
| 20:26.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Thursday and Friday were holidays :( |
| 20:26.58 | Sky2042 | Is the extension "Multi Delete" only allowed for helpers + or something? |
| 20:27.33 | pcj | only for really cool people, sorry |
| 20:28.09 | Adys | well actually |
| 20:28.14 | Adys | anyone but not you sky |
| 20:28.22 | pcj | that's what i said adys |
| 20:28.32 | Adys | you're not "really cool" |
| 20:28.46 | Kirkburn|afk | pcj, not there either |
| 20:29.00 | pcj | odd |
| 20:29.27 | Kirkburn|afk | Copied your code direct into http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kirkburn/ajaxrc.js (though changed cookie name) |
| 20:29.37 | Ose | so, should I just disable my own RCJS? |
| 20:29.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Then http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kirkburn/common.js has the loadJS and "import" stuff |
| 20:29.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Ose, yes |
| 20:29.52 | pcj | well ose you can but it doesn't hurt to leave it on |
| 20:30.07 | pcj | i mean it takes up space but doesn't duplicate |
| 20:30.33 | pcj | um kirkburn last i checked common.js didn't work in user namespace |
| 20:31.05 | Kirkburn|afk | k, moving |
| 20:31.27 | Kirkburn|afk | nowt |
| 20:32.17 | Ose | zomg only 10gb left to backup |
| 20:32.28 | Sky2042 | He went away, didn't he... |
| 20:32.36 | Kaso | Why is Friday Night with Jonathan Ross never on iplayer till saturday >.< |
| 20:32.46 | Kirkburn|afk | I went away? |
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| 20:32.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Sky2042, you did see me typing, right? |
| 20:33.09 | Sky2042 | no :/ |
| 20:33.15 | pcj | lol |
| 20:33.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Did you see /anyone/ typing? |
| 20:33.31 | Sky2042 | c + p would be nice. |
| 20:33.33 | Sky2042 | nope. |
| 20:33.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Dude, there's something majorly wrong with your connection or client |
| 20:33.49 | pcj | well its not important sky kirkburn didn't answer your question |
| 20:33.50 | Sky2042 | connection. |
| 20:33.54 | Sky2042 | lol pcj |
| 20:33.58 | Sky2042 | thanks :D |
| 20:34.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Outbound is fine for you, but inbound is complete fail |
| 20:34.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes, it's restricted |
| 20:34.22 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 20:34.23 | Sky2042 | sigh. |
| 20:34.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Afaik, anyway |
| 20:34.47 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm sure I can request it |
| 20:34.54 | Sky2042 | would be very useful for doiong what i'm doing right now :/ |
| 20:35.27 | Kirkburn|afk | Holy schmoley, forgot about them |
| 20:35.37 | Sky2042 | lol. |
| 20:35.41 | Sky2042 | duh |
| 20:35.43 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 20:35.47 | Kirkburn|afk | pcj, it's in http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kirkburn/monaco.js now ... no change |
| 20:35.58 | Sky2042 | just finishing them up now. |
| 20:36.51 | Sky2042 | yeah, if i /join when my internet's being retarded, the client ends up acting retarded :/ |
| 20:38.02 | Kirkburn|afk | The html source loads global.js just like it loads monaco.js, except for adding language="javascript" |
| 20:41.18 | Ose | what is our default font-family? arial? |
| 20:41.58 | Sky2042 | ose porque? |
| 20:42.05 | Kirkburn|afk | pcj, thanks for taking a look - i'm just off for dinner, bck shortly |
| 20:42.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Want to recommend it to a whole load of other Wikians :) |
| 20:42.37 | Ose | is porque a font family or are you asking why i'm asking? |
| 20:42.40 | Ose | :P |
| 20:42.50 | Sky2042 | i'm asking why you're asking, nubsauce. |
| 20:43.36 | Ose | trying to make an font parameter for {{textcolor}}, but I need something to default to |
| 20:43.47 | Sky2042 | why not use inherit? |
| 20:44.08 | Sky2042 | unless my css is just... stupid. |
| 20:44.24 | Sky2042 | font-family: inherit; |
| 20:44.31 | foxlit | {{#if:{{{font|}}}|font-family: {{{font}}}}} |
| 20:44.41 | Adys | eh? |
| 20:44.44 | Adys | what foxlit said |
| 20:44.50 | Sky2042 | ^ |
| 20:44.51 | Adys | a font is always defaulted to inherit |
| 20:45.01 | Sky2042 | Adys: do you have css set to ping or something? |
| 20:45.16 | Adys | yeah and python too |
| 20:45.22 | Sky2042 | hah |
| 20:45.22 | foxlit | hisssss? |
| 20:45.35 | Adys | inherit is here to force inheriting parameters when one is already set |
| 20:45.38 | Ose | I think style="font-family={{{font|}}}; works |
| 20:45.43 | Adys | no |
| 20:45.47 | Sky2042 | ugh, bad css |
| 20:45.48 | Adys | it doesnt |
| 20:46.00 | Adys | that will give font-family=; |
| 20:46.02 | Adys | if its not set |
| 20:46.03 | Sky2042 | not even css... |
| 20:46.07 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 20:46.12 | Kalroth | It isn't? |
| 20:46.19 | Adys | thats css yes.. |
| 20:46.39 | Ose | I think it defaults if font-family=; |
| 20:46.46 | Adys | no |
| 20:46.49 | Kalroth | css doesn't have to be an external source, inline styles are fine |
| 20:46.50 | Adys | w3c tests say a good browser should just ignore if a param is here but not precised |
| 20:46.55 | Sky2042 | not really. proper css would be style="font-family: {{{font|}}};" |
| 20:47.30 | Kalroth | oh sure, : is the proper seperator :) |
| 20:47.55 | Adys | ya |
| 20:48.03 | Ose | example of a valid font-family to test plase? |
| 20:48.06 | Adys | http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Test/CSS2.1/20061011/ there |
| 20:48.13 | Adys | Ose, arial |
| 20:48.14 | Kalroth | 'Times New Roman' |
| 20:48.34 | Adys | actually fuck that |
| 20:48.37 | Adys | give credit where its due |
| 20:48.47 | Adys | helvetica, damnit |
| 20:48.48 | pcj | must...close...monaco |
| 20:48.49 | Ose | argh, it r not work |
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| 20:50.06 | Adys | whats wrong ose |
| 20:50.29 | Ose | it doesn't change the font |
| 20:50.53 | Adys | copypaste me it |
| 20:50.59 | Adys | dont give me a link i closed ff |
| 20:51.22 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Textcolor ---> http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Linkcolor ---> http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sig5 being worked on |
| 20:51.33 | Ose | err... |
| 20:52.02 | Ose | {{linkcolor|User:Ose|'''Ose'''|color=#007FFF|title=Guess who...|font=Helvetica}} still regular font |
| 20:52.14 | Adys | whats linkcolor |
| 20:52.28 | Ose | template to have colored links |
| 20:52.31 | Adys | lol |
| 20:52.36 | Adys | default is arial |
| 20:52.46 | Adys | helvetica has barely any diff to arial |
| 20:52.47 | foxlit | works for me :) |
| 20:52.59 | Adys | thats quite normal you dont see the difference |
| 20:53.18 | foxlit | Try "monospace" |
| 20:53.19 | Ose | d'oh, now it shows with comic sans |
| 20:53.36 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 20:54.26 | Ose | I was thinking of merging {{textcolor}} & {{linkcolor}} + more functions into a universal {{text}} template... |
| 20:54.34 | Adys | ose |
| 20:54.35 | Adys | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Helvarial.png |
| 20:54.54 | Ose | for crying out loud... |
| 20:55.03 | Ose | what's the point with having both? |
| 20:55.22 | Sky2042 | lol. |
| 20:55.42 | Adys | tell that to ms |
| 20:55.48 | Ose | I was thinking {{text|<what it will look like>|<link=>|<color=>|<%=>|<font=>}} and so on |
| 20:55.56 | Adys | helvetica was a font promoted by apple about twenty five years ago |
| 20:56.05 | Adys | ms copied it and renamed it to arial :p |
| 20:56.09 | Adys | hey Fisker- trollbait |
| 20:56.26 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 20:57.50 | Ose | so why is monospace so small compared to the others? |
| 20:58.06 | Ose | 125% of monospace = 100% arial |
| 20:58.36 | Kalroth | it's a french font |
| 20:59.06 | Adys | monospace is not small its just relative to the font size |
| 20:59.09 | Adys | its a fixed width font |
| 20:59.10 | Ose | sacrébleu! |
| 20:59.12 | Kalroth | aye |
| 20:59.17 | Ose | (spelling?) |
| 20:59.21 | Adys | no accent |
| 20:59.34 | Ose | E e e, e |
| 20:59.42 | Adys | øÃþ¶ÅÅ |
| 20:59.44 | Adys | ºµ¡n |
| 20:59.51 | Ose | ^^(I am I, I) in my accent |
| 20:59.55 | Kalroth | é |
| 21:00.12 | Adys | ¹³³ⷠ|
| 21:00.19 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 21:00.24 | Sky2042 | sighs. |
| 21:00.32 | Adys | â°Â·â° |
| 21:00.36 | Kalroth | You're both using some unicode stuff :( |
| 21:01.13 | Adys | Kalroth, http://devcub.com/~adys/public/devrix |
| 21:07.38 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sig5 why isn't my c colored? |
| 21:14.11 | Adys | http://wallout.com/lsd_vs_alcohol_vs_tree |
| 21:16.27 | Arcanedeath | It is a bug OSe |
| 21:16.39 | Arcanedeath | It is caused by the / in the link location |
| 21:17.08 | Arcanedeath | I'll ry to fix the bug if I can |
| 21:18.47 | Ose | it wasn't there earlier... |
| 21:22.13 | Kirkburn|afk | pcj, any luck? |
| 21:22.30 | pcj | yes, you need to change back ajaxrc to use the correct path |
| 21:23.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Correct path? |
| 21:23.19 | pcj | /wiki/ |
| 21:24.13 | Kirkburn|afk | the + "/wiki" bit? |
| 21:24.25 | pcj | yes |
| 21:24.47 | Kirkburn|afk | I was sure I tried that |
| 21:25.18 | pcj | You did, I added something to my monaco.js |
| 21:26.26 | Arcanedeath | <span title="Whut I haf dunn"><span style="font-size:125%; color: #000033 ; font-family: Monospace; ;">C |
| 21:26.34 | Arcanedeath | in the issue with ose |
| 21:26.40 | Arcanedeath | look at the extra ; |
| 21:26.45 | Kirkburn|afk | :O |
| 21:26.54 | Kirkburn|afk | pcj, you're a star |
| 21:27.07 | pcj | ? |
| 21:27.12 | Kirkburn|afk | it works :) |
| 21:27.28 | pcj | ofc it does |
| 21:27.42 | Ose | wah? |
| 21:27.58 | Ose | but most of that is in templates... |
| 21:28.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Showoff :) |
| 21:28.08 | Arcanedeath | it's not a bug with the template, it's a wikia issue |
| 21:28.34 | Arcanedeath | looking at the source of http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Ose/Sig5&action=raw&templates=expand |
| 21:28.56 | Arcanedeath | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.57 | Keolah | I love the Wailing Caverns. It's so scenic. |
| 21:29.01 | Keolah | Aside from the stuff trying to bite my face off anyway. |
| 21:29.04 | Kirkburn|afk | pcj, is the cookie per site, or global? |
| 21:29.04 | Arcanedeath | the extra ";" is not there |
| 21:29.27 | pcj | kirkburn: per hostname, depending on the browser |
| 21:29.29 | Arcanedeath | anyone want to submit a bug report? |
| 21:29.36 | Kirkburn|afk | kk |
| 21:29.37 | Ose | I'll have to look into it AFTER I save what i'm currently doing |
| 21:29.38 | pcj | i.e., wowwiki.com is different from www.wowwiki.com |
| 21:30.04 | Kirkburn|afk | So, it should be different for aoc.wikia.com and devilmaycry.wikia.com ? |
| 21:30.27 | pcj | yes |
| 21:30.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Yay |
| 21:31.17 | Ose | ok |
| 21:32.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Thanks so much, now to tell everyone about it |
| 21:33.00 | Arcanedeath | Ose I found a way to make it look like you wanted to before, working around the bug |
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| 21:33.31 | Arcanedeath | or maybe it's a bug with textcolor |
| 21:33.35 | Ose | the bug must be in {{textcolor}} (propably) or {{linkcolor}}? |
| 21:34.09 | Kirkburn|afk | What kind of bug? |
| 21:34.49 | Kirkburn|afk | goes to look |
| 21:34.59 | Ose | I think the problem is an ; who is outside an {{#if}} it's supposed to be inside of... |
| 21:36.04 | Ose | trying to fix |
| 21:36.28 | Ose | Voila |
| 21:36.32 | Arcanedeath | yay |
| 21:36.43 | Arcanedeath | I was just looking at that. |
| 21:36.50 | Arcanedeath | you beat me to it :P |
| 21:37.51 | Ose | anyway anyoen else agrers that a universal {{text}} template would be nice? |
| 21:37.53 | Arcanedeath | there was still something wierd going on with wikia though |
| 21:37.58 | Ose | typos... |
| 21:38.29 | Arcanedeath | when I did &templates=expand&action=raw it showed one ";" but the page source showed two |
| 21:39.00 | Ose | basically make all "span style" to parameters in a tempalte |
| 21:39.11 | Kirkburn|afk | ooh, btw - you can those new fonts in Vista (all the ones beginning with C) just by downloading a Office 2007 viewer or converter |
| 21:39.17 | Kirkburn|afk | *can get |
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| 21:39.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Why is there a textcolor and linkcolor anyway? |
| 21:40.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Neither should be being used widely, as such things should be CSS based |
| 21:40.39 | Arcanedeath | it causes duplicate spans too |
| 21:40.54 | Arcanedeath | when one would suffice |
| 21:42.15 | Ose | then change it :P |
| 21:42.37 | Arcanedeath | I'll just make a new template |
| 21:42.38 | Ose | it's basically Gourras work with my endless extending |
| 21:43.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Neither should exist |
| 21:44.04 | Arcanedeath | so is it ok to combine them to a single template of {{text}}? |
| 21:44.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, I'd say no, given what I just said |
| 21:44.45 | Arcanedeath | ;inkcolor is used on about 100 pages |
| 21:44.50 | Arcanedeath | linkcolor* |
| 21:45.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Likely by transclusion |
| 21:45.17 | Ose | but it's easier than writing all the <span style=> stuff all the time! |
| 21:45.30 | Kirkburn|afk | And it encourages bad practises |
| 21:45.37 | Ose | how? |
| 21:45.43 | Arcanedeath | It's also slower for the wiki to process |
| 21:45.51 | Ose | blah blah blah |
| 21:45.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Links should be standard blue whenever possible |
| 21:46.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Otherwise you may run into problems on other skins |
| 21:46.16 | Arcanedeath | Well, it is labeled as a user template |
| 21:46.25 | Arcanedeath | not for real articles |
| 21:46.37 | Kirkburn|afk | They aren't |
| 21:46.54 | Kirkburn|afk | One is in cat:templates, one isn't even categorised |
| 21:47.12 | Arcanedeath | nvm it's not a category it's a list |
| 21:47.49 | Arcanedeath | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:List_of_user_templates |
| 21:48.17 | Arcanedeath | on wait its just being USED there |
| 21:48.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Dealing with the usage on templates |
| 21:48.22 | Arcanedeath | 0_o |
| 21:48.31 | Arcanedeath | it's not axtually listed there |
| 21:48.36 | Arcanedeath | actually* |
| 21:49.06 | Ose | I do agree that the coding on http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sig5 turned out pretty bad... |
| 21:49.31 | Arcanedeath | what about a signature template? |
| 21:49.47 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Sig |
| 21:49.55 | Ose | not much used.. |
| 21:50.19 | Arcanedeath | then lets expand it |
| 21:50.53 | Arcanedeath | or creating a new one to replace it might work better |
| 21:52.56 | Ose | w00t! backup done |
| 21:53.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Preferably don't edit sig templates |
| 21:53.43 | Ose | though I don't agree with your decision Kirkburn... i'm going to accept that you propably know best... |
| 21:53.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh wow, sig really isn't used O_O |
| 21:53.55 | Ose | lulnezz |
| 21:54.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh, well, in that case, as long as you don't break anyone's sig :P |
| 21:55.11 | Arcanedeath | I said I was making a new oe |
| 21:55.13 | Arcanedeath | one* |
| 21:55.15 | Arcanedeath | ssig |
| 21:55.18 | Arcanedeath | for super sig |
| 21:56.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Text colour should be inline or via CSS, a template dedicated to it seems pointless for what it is |
| 21:56.48 | Ose | what does "via CSS" mean? |
| 21:57.02 | Kirkburn|afk | The site CSS, so it will work on all skins |
| 21:57.09 | Ose | ... |
| 21:57.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Basically textcolor and linkcolor make it too easy |
| 21:57.37 | Ose | so what am I supposed t owrite to get a blue "lol"? |
| 21:57.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Do it inline |
| 21:58.15 | Kirkburn|afk | And try and make sure it won't be unreadable on a white background |
| 21:58.54 | Kirkburn|afk | <span style="color:something">text</span> or [[Link|<span style="color:something">Link</span> ]] |
| 21:59.19 | Ose | k |
| 22:00.53 | foxlit | "Skunk musk is an overpowering scent, it can be detected upwind at long rangeM&MM 55MG 195." |
| 22:01.30 | Kirkburn|afk | I especially want to avoid - http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template%3AUser_WoWCE&diff=1342843&oldid=1316327 |
| 22:02.12 | Ose | that was what linkcolor was meant to do... |
| 22:03.19 | Kirkburn|afk | The correct code was 2 bytes longer |
| 22:05.03 | Arcanedeath | meh this is just silly, It's impossible to support everything everyone will want to do without reinventing the wheel |
| 22:05.24 | Arcanedeath | I support Kirkburn |
| 22:05.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Having a central sig template isn't a good idea anyway, as any changes will affect a lot :P |
| 22:07.34 | Arcanedeath | I was thinking ok some people will set the color of their link, and some people want want to have just an image of their username and some people will want their username before an image... |
| 22:08.57 | Arcanedeath | Adding some basic css and html information on the signature guide would be a better option |
| 22:10.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Aye, though it shouldn't encourage images with too much code or images |
| 22:10.12 | Kirkburn|afk | er, *sigs with |
| 22:11.48 | Kirkburn|afk | woah, not even going to toucht eh paperdoll code |
| 22:15.40 | Kirkburn|afk | lol, with the last one, without the template, it was the exact same size |
| 22:21.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Btw, not going to delete the templates just want to really discourage their usage unless something desparately needs them |
| 22:21.47 | amro | imo people should stick with simple sigs |
| 22:21.52 | amro | no need to be fancy |
| 22:22.05 | amro | if you want it to look fancy use an image, not tons of CSS |
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| 22:27.59 | Adys | http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/gizmodo/full/~3/282947213/holy-shit-macgyver-blockbuster-film-coming |
| 22:28.06 | Adys | fucking fucking win if its anderson |
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| 22:35.34 | Ose | lol @ http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sig5 coding |
| 22:37.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Linkcolors calls tetxcolor o_O |
| 22:38.02 | Ose | duh |
| 22:38.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Why? |
| 22:38.32 | Ose | because i'm lazy? |
| 22:38.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Evident already ;) |
| 22:39.20 | Ose | Kirkburn: www.yehforgames.com/worldofwarcraft BAD AS |
| 22:39.28 | Ose | s/AS/AD/ |
| 22:39.43 | Kirkburn|afk | No page found O_O |
| 22:39.50 | Ose | badass lol |
| 22:40.06 | Ose | "U.S. Company runs Heroic Dungeons to get Badges of Justice for you" |
| 22:40.18 | Kirkburn|afk | k, thanks |
| 22:40.40 | Ose | Kirkburn: what do you think of the code on http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sig5 ? |
| 22:41.57 | Kirkburn|afk | A lot, but the wiki strips out comments fortunately :) |
| 22:46.15 | Kirkburn|afk | !jobqueue |
| 22:47.12 | Arcanedeath | I think the i and o are a bit hard to see |
| 22:47.20 | Ose | Arcandeath: are you planning to do the census bot request? |
| 22:47.20 | Arcanedeath | as is the word talk |
| 22:47.40 | Arcanedeath | I am not sure, waiting for responses on the VP |
| 22:47.53 | Arcanedeath | but if I get a positive response then, yes |
| 22:47.58 | Ose | Kirk responded |
| 22:48.03 | Arcanedeath | oh kk |
| 22:48.32 | Ose | We are going to need some neat table of some sort for it... |
| 22:53.58 | Ose | Kirkburn: do we have any extensions or something which can create graphs? |
| 22:55.23 | Arcanedeath | google graphs api? |
| 22:55.30 | Kirkburn|afk | not afaik |
| 22:56.13 | Arcanedeath | http://code.google.com/apis/chart/ |
| 22:57.08 | Arcanedeath | Look good? |
| 22:58.00 | Ose | you going to get bot to make them? |
| 22:58.18 | Arcanedeath | ya, it might take me a while though |
| 22:58.45 | Ose | and theyre saved as images... |
| 22:58.46 | Arcanedeath | can I include the images externally? |
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| 22:58.58 | Ose | well... |
| 22:59.02 | Arcanedeath | the api generates an image from the url |
| 22:59.12 | Arcanedeath | I could setup a tempate to use it |
| 22:59.16 | Arcanedeath | template* |
| 22:59.29 | Ose | Kirkburn how did external imaging work again? |
| 22:59.57 | Ose | as long as google doesn't block us for stealing their bandwidth... |
| 23:00.16 | Ose | ping Kirkburn|afk |
| 23:00.24 | *** part/#wowwiki danielsweden24 (n=danielsw@c213-89-223-154.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 23:00.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Both ping me |
| 23:00.52 | Ose | ok |
| 23:01.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Not sure |
| 23:02.58 | Arcanedeath | ping Ose |
| 23:03.04 | Ose | zomg I just realised we now have 2 Laurlys! |
| 23:03.06 | Ose | ye? |
| 23:03.08 | Arcanedeath | lol |
| 23:03.26 | Arcanedeath | Oh I was wondering if there was a pinging bot or something you were using |
| 23:03.37 | pcj | what do you mean ose... |
| 23:04.00 | Arcanedeath | laurly and laurlybot |
| 23:04.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Okay, external images only work from imagelink, but I wouldn't recommend using it tbh |
| 23:04.01 | Ose | arcanebot r übar |
| 23:04.19 | pcj | Not really in the style of laurly... |
| 23:04.24 | Arcanedeath | I am going to have to, there will be to many charts to store for now |
| 23:04.34 | Arcanedeath | I will do it all through a template though |
| 23:04.39 | Arcanedeath | so it could be changed later |
| 23:04.56 | Ose | it will have to be updated every now and then ofc |
| 23:06.59 | Arcanedeath | exactly what data do we want? |
| 23:07.24 | Ose | Kirkburn: http://bloodgate.com/perl/graph/ ? |
| 23:07.27 | Arcanedeath | class popularity, level population, general population? |
| 23:08.03 | Ose | H/A ratio |
| 23:08.52 | Arcanedeath | class popularity would take up alot of space though |
| 23:09.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Ose, WW:SR ... and maaaybe |
| 23:09.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Right atm, increasing site speed and squashing bugs is a priority |
| 23:10.58 | Ose | another question is what to do with servers who lack census data... |
| 23:11.08 | Ose | Kirkburn: understandable |
| 23:11.44 | Arcanedeath | I think I can make an ok graph template... |
| 23:12.16 | Arcanedeath | The BIG question: |
| 23:12.28 | Arcanedeath | Should it be {{chart}} or {{graph}}? |
| 23:13.11 | Ose | dunno |
| 23:13.22 | Ose | could include census too? |
| 23:13.27 | Arcanedeath | I like chart |
| 23:13.36 | Arcanedeath | what do you mean? |
| 23:15.30 | Ose | {{Census chart}}? |
| 23:15.42 | Ose | g'nite Kirk |
| 23:16.44 | Ose | I guess i'll start thinking about going to bed too :P |
| 23:16.50 | Arcanedeath | hmm it's not possible to have an image thats not a link? |
| 23:17.09 | Arcanedeath | oh the census chart will be a seperate template utilizing {{chart}} |
| 23:26.35 | Arcanedeath | How do I include the title of a page in a template? |
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| 23:33.27 | Arcanedeath | Wow I just looked out how that imagelink worked |
| 23:33.33 | Arcanedeath | thats disgusting |
| 23:33.41 | Arcanedeath | lol |
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| 23:35.36 | Arcanedeath | WHy doesn't [[Image:http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/images/logo.gif]] work? |
| 23:35.51 | Arcanedeath | it does on the imagelink |
| 23:36.11 | Arcanedeath | which btw is really ugly |
| 23:39.58 | Arcanedeath | wait hmm I see it's not reall a template? |
| 23:40.02 | Arcanedeath | really* |
| 23:40.21 | Arcanedeath | I wish there was a way to use it without the link part |
| 23:43.48 | pcj | there is |
| 23:47.18 | Arcanedeath | how? I tried just for example [[Image:http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/images/logo.gif]] and it didn't work |
| 23:52.25 | Arcanedeath | nope, "External images using plain URLs no longer work" http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:MediaWiki_Quirks |
| 23:52.58 | Arcanedeath | now you need to use imagelink which requires the image to be a link |
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