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| 03:37.54 | pcj | makes a really loud noise |
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| 04:06.26 | Arcanedeath | hello? |
| 04:06.52 | Arcanedeath | Can the user Arcanebot please have bot status if there are any admins here? |
| 04:07.08 | Arcanedeath | On the wiki I mean |
| 04:07.51 | pcj | you need a bureaucrat |
| 04:08.01 | pcj | the only one of those that frequents this channel is kirkburn |
| 04:08.04 | pcj | and he's not on |
| 04:08.39 | Arcanedeath | oh... |
| 04:08.47 | Arcanedeath | I'll post on his talk page then, thanks |
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| 04:43.40 | Sky2042 | Arcanedeath: poke kirkburn about the +b'ing bot when he gets up. |
| 04:43.49 | Sky2042 | and or send him to relevant thread. |
| 04:47.47 | Arcanedeath | k |
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| 05:54.09 | Arcanedeath | lulz |
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| 07:40.17 | Adys | hahahah |
| 07:40.19 | Adys | http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/30/1822237&from=rss |
| 07:42.53 | Arcanedeath | lol |
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| 08:04.11 | Ose | http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/latest ROFLMAO! |
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| 08:26.13 | Adys | :| |
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| 10:39.38 | Ose | damn shoes |
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| 10:47.43 | Ose | isn't there a C'thun png somewhere around? |
| 10:48.10 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:M1330&diff=prev&oldid=1336719 sigh |
| 10:48.14 | g0urra | Ose, I could dig one up |
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| 10:54.39 | g0urra | Ose: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:C%27thun.png |
| 10:56.40 | Fisker- | err |
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| 10:56.43 | Fisker- | we already got one |
| 10:56.45 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Cthun-p2.jpg |
| 10:58.00 | g0urra | <Ose> isn't there a C'thun png somewhere around? |
| 10:58.05 | g0urra | that's not a png Fisker-. |
| 11:02.09 | Fisker- | download it and convert it? |
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| 11:51.36 | g0urra | Ose, why do you want a c'thun png? |
| 12:09.03 | Ose | templait |
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| 12:17.41 | Adys | http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/01/0628254&from=rss |
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| 12:22.36 | pcj | !sup |
| 12:22.36 | Foxbot | There are currently 0 queued operations. |
| 12:23.01 | pcj | !trcount Template:Loot |
| 12:28.20 | foxlit | that might not be active |
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| 13:58.15 | Arcanedeath | I'm having a bug with the external links captch |
| 13:58.21 | Arcanedeath | captcha* |
| 13:58.54 | Arcanedeath | whenever my bot edits a page where it adds {{aggro}} it thinks it added external links and asks for the captcha |
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| 14:06.34 | Ose | ~seen Kirkburn |
| 14:06.36 | infobot | kirkburn <n=Kirkburn@wikia/Kirkburn> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 14h 27m 7s ago, saying: 'Have a lovely end of April/start of May everyone!'. |
| 14:07.21 | Ose | who else than kikrburn can tag bots? |
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| 14:08.37 | g0urra | Adys maybe? |
| 14:09.27 | Adys | I cant |
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| 14:14.32 | TuckingFypo | Morning all. |
| 14:18.45 | Ose | Good afternoon TuckingFypo |
| 14:24.44 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sandbox/Imagemap :D :D :D |
| 14:25.55 | Kirkburn | Egad, I have "24998" contribs according to Foxbot |
| 14:27.53 | Ose | Kirkburn: tag Arcanbot so that we wont have to see all his edits please |
| 14:27.58 | Ose | Arcanebot |
| 14:28.59 | foxlit | Arcanedeath: whenever my bot edits a page where it adds {{aggro}} it thinks it added external links and asks for the captcha |
| 14:29.05 | foxlit | That doesn't quite make sense :/ |
| 14:29.40 | Arcanedeath | it does |
| 14:30.02 | Arcanedeath | I have an example on kirburns talk page showing the original and what I changed it to |
| 14:30.08 | Arcanedeath | he did tag me |
| 14:30.29 | foxlit | Why would it think aggro adds external links? |
| 14:30.45 | Kirkburn | I can't mark it personally atm |
| 14:30.47 | winkiller | Kirkburn: how can I find out if a wikia-account is mine if mail password doesn't send to me. but it could be any email adress, and the wikia-acc has 0 edits |
| 14:30.47 | Arcanedeath | I have no idea but that looks like it's the problem |
| 14:31.00 | Arcanedeath | do you need a screenshot? |
| 14:31.10 | foxlit | Nah, I need a way to replicate it |
| 14:31.11 | foxlit | So you're saying that if I try to save the Changed: code block to a sandbox page |
| 14:31.42 | foxlit | It'll prompt for a captcha? |
| 14:31.57 | Kirkburn | winkiller, post on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Upgrade_early_2008 |
| 14:32.12 | Kirkburn | winkiller, the account may have edits on other wikis |
| 14:32.40 | Arcanedeath | yup I tried it and it asked for a catpcha |
| 14:32.50 | Arcanedeath | {{Stub/Mob}} |
| 14:32.50 | Arcanedeath | {{npcbox |
| 14:32.50 | Arcanedeath | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.50 | Arcanedeath | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.50 | Arcanedeath | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.51 | Arcanedeath | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.53 | Arcanedeath | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.55 | Arcanedeath | }} |
| 14:32.57 | Arcanedeath | [[Category:Humanoids]] |
| 14:33.03 | Kirkburn | Don't copy paste many lines please |
| 14:33.07 | foxlit | no need to repeat it if it's on Kirk's talk |
| 14:33.07 | Arcanedeath | kk sorry |
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| 14:33.31 | Kirkburn | (you can use http://www.pastey.net/ ) |
| 14:33.35 | foxlit | doesn't prompt me |
| 14:33.39 | Arcanedeath | hmm |
| 14:33.45 | Kirkburn | Should be marked now |
| 14:34.08 | Arcanedeath | hey didn't stop me this time |
| 14:34.12 | Arcanedeath | wierd |
| 14:34.24 | foxlit | Doesn't ask anything even if I'm not a sysop |
| 14:35.02 | Arcanedeath | well I din't for me either the second time I tried |
| 14:35.13 | foxlit | Kirk, if you're poking techs at some future point, could you find out what provides our <imagelink> tag? |
| 14:35.32 | foxlit | It seems to be gone on other wikis, I wanted to see the source of whatever extension we have working on that |
| 14:35.55 | foxlit | (also, updating to say http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageLink would be awesome) |
| 14:36.12 | foxlit | I could probably post that on WW:SR -- does anyone read that lately? |
| 14:36.42 | foxlit | Hah, it's on there already |
| 14:37.44 | pcj | Guess you don't read it then |
| 14:38.13 | Arcanedeath | hey somebody fixed it |
| 14:38.18 | Arcanedeath | was that you kirk? |
| 14:38.35 | Kirkburn | You are marked a bot, yes |
| 14:38.44 | Kirkburn | Unfortunately it doesn't apply to previous edits |
| 14:38.50 | foxlit | Sky added that line in January |
| 14:39.02 | foxlit | so I doubt anyone interesting reads it :) |
| 14:39.08 | Kirkburn | I've concentrated on pestering them about bug stuff |
| 14:39.23 | Arcanedeath | Sorry, I saw the thing on my userpage and thought I was already marked |
| 14:39.26 | Kirkburn | All the bugs and "small things" are in the system |
| 14:39.59 | Kirkburn | I didn't add that as adding new extensions just wasn't really an option - kinda is now, but will still leave it a little longer |
| 14:40.20 | Arcanedeath | Hey. I'm already down to F http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Pages_using_deprecated_templates |
| 14:40.31 | foxlit | It'd be nice; I could stop using <imagemap> :) |
| 14:41.10 | foxlit | well |
| 14:41.15 | foxlit | Arcanedeath: v |
| 14:41.15 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Felsworn_Scalewing&diff=1338202&oldid=1139006 |
| 14:41.31 | foxlit | Not really your problem, but something to fix regardless :) |
| 14:41.48 | foxlit | [multiple |type= params translated into multiple |creature= params] |
| 14:42.26 | foxlit | I've got an [really evil] fix for {{loot}} lists breaking #ifexist limits |
| 14:42.42 | Arcanedeath | I think that would more be a problem for another bot. |
| 14:42.54 | Arcanedeath | It was already duplicated |
| 14:43.24 | foxlit | We change {{loot}} to {{item}} and watch Sky/Zeal wither in agony |
| 14:43.24 | Arcanedeath | but you scared me :P I killed the bot really fast |
| 14:43.45 | pcj | foxlit that'd still run into the node limit |
| 14:43.47 | foxlit | Anyway, you asked earlier about parsing templates |
| 14:43.57 | foxlit | pcj: well, no |
| 14:44.02 | foxlit | We don't have any lists long enough for that |
| 14:44.29 | foxlit | Arcanedeath: So, about parsing nested templates |
| 14:44.32 | pcj | I could come up with something |
| 14:44.34 | foxlit | I cheat, usually |
| 14:44.38 | pcj | [[List of all items in game]] |
| 14:44.42 | foxlit | [[All items in World of Warcraft]] |
| 14:45.26 | foxlit | Then again, I have a slightly different pattern matching language |
| 14:45.36 | foxlit | Keyword is balanced expressions |
| 14:45.52 | foxlit | so change {{mobbox to {{mobbox{{ with a simple string replace |
| 14:45.53 | Arcanedeath | it is impossible to do it using a regex by its very nature |
| 14:46.03 | foxlit | then match {{mobbox(balanced number of {}) |
| 14:46.22 | Arcanedeath | I am using an ugly function that goes through the code character by character. |
| 14:46.42 | foxlit | Beware of making strong expressions like that - I doubt you have any strict proof for that :) |
| 14:46.51 | Arcanedeath | I do. |
| 14:47.00 | Arcanedeath | A regex is a finite state machine |
| 14:47.19 | Arcanedeath | finite means it has a set number of states which cannot change |
| 14:48.00 | Arcanedeath | since you would need to be able to have a state for each template depth it is impossible to support an infinite number |
| 14:48.29 | foxlit | If you're contesting that there's a page with infinite template death somewhere, I'd like so see that page :) |
| 14:48.36 | foxlit | s/eath/epth/ |
| 14:48.53 | Kirkburn | For the captcha, shouldn't be a problem now you're a bot |
| 14:48.56 | Arcanedeath | lol I am not but I would need to set a maximum template depth |
| 14:49.05 | Arcanedeath | ya captchas fine now |
| 14:49.40 | Arcanedeath | and I would just rather not do that, I am also limited by the regex engine which tends to crash on long regex's |
| 14:50.28 | foxlit | You can actually solve it with a few tricks and balanced regular expressions |
| 14:51.03 | Kirkburn | 24,998 edits, damn your bot Foxlit :P |
| 14:51.07 | Arcanedeath | lol |
| 14:51.20 | foxlit | What does my bot have to do with it? :) |
| 14:51.36 | Kirkburn | Well, it counted it. Should have added 2 to appease me :P |
| 14:51.43 | Arcanedeath | foxlit: well, I said it was imposible to do it using A regex :P |
| 14:52.10 | Arcanedeath | gah php memory leaks -_- |
| 14:55.36 | Kirkburn | sancus I stuck a note on your (and vlad's) talk page to prevent people spamming you for help |
| 14:56.39 | Arcanedeath | Help! sancus!!!11 I can't find mankirk's wife! |
| 14:57.52 | Arcanedeath | H ftw |
| 15:01.09 | Fisker- | HLAP |
| 15:01.37 | Fisker- | Kirkburn |
| 15:01.39 | Fisker- | wanna roleplay a bit? |
| 15:01.53 | Kirkburn | no |
| 15:01.59 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sandbox/Imagemap/Eastern_Kingdoms check out Lordaeron |
| 15:02.19 | Fisker- | damn |
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| 15:02.37 | Adys | No ose. |
| 15:02.58 | Ose | Yes adys. |
| 15:03.30 | Adys | No, imagemaps can get the fuck out of the internet and never come back |
| 15:03.59 | Ose | why? |
| 15:04.20 | Adys | because there are better ways to do this |
| 15:04.51 | Adys | div layers with positions straight from wow |
| 15:05.14 | Kirkburn | It's hardly hurting anyone Adys :/ |
| 15:05.21 | Kirkburn | Ose, I think it's good |
| 15:05.28 | Ose | :D |
| 15:05.46 | Adys | you wont say the same thing when you'll have to update this kirk |
| 15:05.59 | Kirkburn | There's a page which does it for you |
| 15:06.18 | Ose | http://tools.wikimedia.de/~dapete/ImageMapEdit/ImageMapEdit.html?en win |
| 15:06.41 | Adys | well do as you want anyway not my problem atm |
| 15:06.43 | Kirkburn | And yes, there's the possibility of having to redo it entirely if Blizz changes it again, but that will be a different map |
| 15:07.01 | Adys | kirk |
| 15:07.06 | Adys | go to this page and do ctrl u |
| 15:08.04 | Kirkburn | and? |
| 15:08.31 | Adys | dude the page is too big |
| 15:08.32 | Ose | phancy JS yesno? |
| 15:08.43 | Adys | there is already way too much code on it |
| 15:08.51 | Adys | anyway as i said not my problem, got other sites to code on |
| 15:09.06 | Arcanedeath | Where is the mobbox on http://www.wowwiki.com/Help:Mob_articles |
| 15:09.11 | Adys | bbl |
| 15:09.12 | Arcanedeath | I can't find it |
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| 15:13.19 | Kirkburn | Kaso, http://mornington.wikia.com/wiki/Mornington_Crescent |
| 15:13.56 | Kirkburn | Btw, the new editing tools on the WoWWiki skin - http://sentinels.wikia.com/index.php?title=Rothschild_Thunderguard&action=edit |
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| 15:16.33 | Kirkburn | Try typing [[Roth |
| 15:16.59 | Kirkburn | Also, note the "Hide editing tips" and "Enter Widescreen" links |
| 15:18.24 | Ose | D'OH! |
| 15:18.35 | Ose | here i'm s |
| 15:18.46 | Ose | pressing enter by accident... |
| 15:19.28 | Ose | anyway, I was looking for a nice map on the site, while forgetting there was a WoW Atlas lying on the desk... |
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| 15:23.15 | Arcanedeath | pcj think you could help? |
| 15:23.18 | Arcanedeath | Where is the mobbox on http://www.wowwiki.com/Help:Mob_articles |
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| 15:23.41 | Kaso | oh shit i didnt know he'd died Kirkburn :( |
| 15:23.58 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Help:Mob_articles/Preload |
| 15:24.04 | Arcanedeath | looked there |
| 15:24.04 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Help:Mob_articles/Preload&action=edit |
| 15:24.23 | Arcanedeath | it's not in the transcluded list there |
| 15:24.25 | foxlit | Of course, the proper answer is that there isn't a mobbox there |
| 15:24.29 | Kaso | But also the concept of a morninton crescent wiki makes me smile |
| 15:24.45 | Arcanedeath | then why is it in the transcluded list of the first article |
| 15:25.05 | Arcanedeath | and its in the pages with deprecated templates list |
| 15:25.21 | foxlit | Link something that says it is |
| 15:25.41 | Arcanedeath | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Help:Mob_articles&action=edit |
| 15:25.59 | foxlit | No, no mobbox there |
| 15:26.05 | Arcanedeath | on the bottom |
| 15:26.10 | Arcanedeath | "Template:Mobbox" |
| 15:26.10 | foxlit | Still no |
| 15:26.15 | Arcanedeath | use ctrl+F? |
| 15:26.19 | foxlit | Did |
| 15:26.38 | Arcanedeath | I have done a forced reload of the page, still see it |
| 15:27.05 | foxlit | http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/577/safari001wb4.png |
| 15:27.09 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sandbox/Imagemap/Eastern_Kingdoms done |
| 15:27.24 | foxlit | [On the other hand, Template:Eq, wth!] |
| 15:27.25 | Arcanedeath | Ill try safari then |
| 15:27.36 | foxlit | Doubt it has anything to do with the browser |
| 15:28.12 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Help%3AMob_articles%2FPreload&diff=1338338&oldid=1134089 |
| 15:28.17 | foxlit | Didn't your bot just axe it? |
| 15:28.17 | Kirkburn | Kaso, it was on the front page on the news >_< |
| 15:28.29 | foxlit | btw, ate all the comments. |
| 15:28.33 | Arcanedeath | My bot did axe the mobbox but I still see it |
| 15:28.50 | Arcanedeath | Do you see it on http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Pages_using_deprecated_templates&until=Razormane+Quilboar |
| 15:28.50 | Kaso | I dont really keep up with the news enough |
| 15:29.02 | Kaso | I dont have a TV, and dont really read newspapers |
| 15:29.18 | foxlit | Now I do, but that's probably because I just hit rollback on Help:Mob articles/Preload |
| 15:29.22 | Kirkburn | Me neither, but the internets, the internets! |
| 15:29.52 | Kaso | heh, well clearly i havent been paying attention enough |
| 15:31.00 | Kaso | I wonder what'll happen to I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue now |
| 15:31.26 | foxlit | Right, so, I can actually see it in the category |
| 15:31.35 | foxlit | It doesn't appear to be in the category based on the page itself |
| 15:32.06 | Kaso | im not sure i'd be the same without him, like have i got news for you, was never the same after deayton left |
| 15:33.05 | foxlit | And it's gone from the category page |
| 15:33.11 | Arcanedeath | oh, good |
| 15:33.27 | Arcanedeath | I guess it's just the wiki maintaining itself and being a bit slow |
| 15:33.32 | foxlit | btw: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Help%3AMob_articles%2FPreload&diff=1338601&oldid=1338411 |
| 15:33.36 | foxlit | don't eat comments :) |
| 15:34.00 | Arcanedeath | what? |
| 15:34.12 | Arcanedeath | you added back all the annoying comments |
| 15:34.19 | Arcanedeath | ok I'll stop |
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| 15:34.33 | foxlit | They have to be there, unfortunately |
| 15:34.52 | foxlit | It's a help article used as a preload source - the comments let people know what is supposed to be passed to the params |
| 15:35.05 | foxlit | [They shouldn't really be on live pages, but, hey, live and let live :)] |
| 15:35.21 | Arcanedeath | ok so I'll manually edit that one |
| 15:35.40 | Arcanedeath | I'm not going to fix every single bug since this bot is mostly a one-time thing for now |
| 15:36.45 | Arcanedeath | oh, nevermind looks like star fixed it |
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| 15:43.32 | Arcanedeath | I think this method is better than javascript for tooltips http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/menus/demo.html |
| 15:46.07 | foxlit | depends on which tooltips you mean |
| 15:46.31 | Arcanedeath | item tooltips |
| 15:46.49 | Arcanedeath | of course it wold mean they would not be dynamicly loaded |
| 15:47.11 | Arcanedeath | wow I think I just killed english |
| 15:48.32 | foxlit | It's rolling over in its grave - someone else got there before you |
| 15:49.50 | foxlit | The problem then is that we have to ship all of the tooltips on one page as part of its HTML output |
| 15:50.18 | foxlit | So for some pages that's a lot of content some people may never see |
| 15:50.39 | foxlit | Additionally, people without css (google) will see way too much stuff that isn't related to the original article |
| 15:51.57 | Arcanedeath | <noscript><style type="text/css" src="/css/item.php?id=xxxx" /></noscript> |
| 15:52.15 | Arcanedeath | google can't read css either |
| 15:52.31 | Arcanedeath | well I guess you would need to include content though |
| 15:52.36 | Arcanedeath | ifram? |
| 15:52.52 | Arcanedeath | nvm yuck I guess javascript is ok |
| 15:54.54 | Arcanedeath | well... you could mess around with css content property |
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| 15:58.13 | Arcanedeath | Hey... I have an idea! |
| 15:58.44 | Arcanedeath | make a whole bunch of divs containing different letters of the alphabet and other symbols. |
| 15:58.45 | Ose | zomg |
| 15:59.00 | Arcanedeath | then move them to generate content |
| 15:59.15 | Arcanedeath | it's genius! |
| 15:59.23 | foxlit | whatcouldpossiblygowrong |
| 16:00.00 | pcj | lots of things |
| 16:02.53 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:MediaWiki_1.12_changes#Global_css_and_js |
| 16:03.53 | pcj | how boring |
| 16:07.42 | winkiller | I hate utf8 |
| 16:08.20 | Kaso | why :( utf8 is awesome |
| 16:08.30 | Kaso | better than those nasty iso codepages people used to rely on for localised text >.< |
| 16:08.53 | winkiller | I know. but I'm tryingf to leech from armory |
| 16:09.01 | winkiller | and forgot about stupid encoding stuff |
| 16:09.29 | winkiller | I mean.. urlencode(utf8_decode(urldecode($x))) is *not* beautiful :P |
| 16:09.41 | Kaso | heh, true |
| 16:09.59 | Ose | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fo'%20shizzle%20my%20nizzle lol |
| 16:10.30 | Kaso | The idea that the encoding of XML files is contained within the file does frustrate me somewhat |
| 16:10.45 | Kaso | that you have to read a file, to work out how to read that file, logic seems wrong here |
| 16:12.07 | winkiller | I'm totally ansi |
| 16:12.28 | winkiller | I mean, I'd gladly write all my ü and ä as ue and ae if the french would kill their accents |
| 16:13.32 | Ose | Kirkburn: how about a featured fan content thingy for community portla? |
| 16:13.40 | Ose | s/portla/portal/ |
| 16:14.33 | Kirkburn | Fanfiction? |
| 16:14.52 | Ose | and moar |
| 16:15.09 | Kirkburn | On the subject of featuring specific users, I am fairly wary |
| 16:15.39 | Ose | not users, what they made :P |
| 16:16.03 | Kirkburn | True, but it's normally directly linked to one person |
| 16:16.49 | Kaso | winkiller, you shouldn't be so blasé about other language's æsthetical formulæ |
| 16:17.08 | Kirkburn | I like the idea of people having more personal reward, but not in a way people can "show off" |
| 16:17.31 | winkiller | Kaso: I hate everything I need to press more than 1 button on my keyboard :P |
| 16:17.37 | Ose | show of |
| 16:17.42 | Ose | ARGH! |
| 16:17.49 | Ose | I hate this keyboard |
| 16:18.00 | winkiller | interesting. adding utf8-support only gave me a jump from 244k characters to 256k |
| 16:18.01 | Kaso | i think æ and Šare awesome letters and should be used more in english |
| 16:18.06 | Ose | everytime I go for the backspace I hit enter... |
| 16:18.07 | Kirkburn | (which is why I like the profile tools awards, they only really show on your user page) |
| 16:18.36 | Ose | à e i a æ å |
| 16:19.11 | Ose | ^is a correctly pronounced sentence in a certain norwegian dialect |
| 16:19.22 | Kaso | wow thats awesome |
| 16:19.40 | winkiller | what does it mean? |
| 16:20.38 | Ose | I am in she (here used as it) too |
| 16:21.25 | Ose | Ã=me, e=is, i=in, 'a=she (here:it), Ã¥=too |
| 16:21.26 | Kaso | I'd be more amusing if not used as "it" imo |
| 16:22.16 | Ose | roflamo'ed |
| 16:22.29 | winkiller | lol |
| 16:22.33 | Ose | still hates this keyboard |
| 16:22.54 | winkiller | rofl amo is italian for "I love rofl" |
| 16:23.37 | winkiller | Kaso: a typical porn line one could say |
| 16:24.10 | Kirkburn | So I totally forgot it's May 1st |
| 16:24.15 | Ose | :P |
| 16:24.19 | Kirkburn | I was wondering where everyone was ... |
| 16:24.28 | Kirkburn | Poland is, of course, on holiday |
| 16:24.38 | Kaso | oh? what holiday is it? |
| 16:24.42 | Kirkburn | Not ours :P |
| 16:24.46 | Ose | 1st of may duh |
| 16:25.00 | Kirkburn | And Wikia is moving offices to San Fran today |
| 16:25.19 | Ose | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/index.xml |
| 16:25.23 | Ose | see top post |
| 16:25.37 | Ose | same goes for norway and poland |
| 16:26.06 | winkiller | in Germany it's also a holiday |
| 16:26.14 | winkiller | but don't ask what |
| 16:26.36 | Ose | plus it's ascension day for teh christians |
| 16:27.01 | winkiller | oh, right. but that's not a reason for holiday :P |
| 16:27.05 | winkiller | by law |
| 16:27.13 | Ose | in norway it is :D |
| 16:27.23 | Ose | moar holidays for me |
| 16:28.02 | Ose | well, not this year, since it's first of may too though |
| 16:29.03 | winkiller | let's see if Blizzard does IP bans |
| 16:29.11 | winkiller | I already leeched 350k characters from armory :P |
| 16:29.35 | Ose | lol |
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| 16:39.28 | winkiller | ~430 - and only at letter D on EU realms |
| 16:42.46 | Ose | winkiller:what are you doing? |
| 16:42.59 | winkiller | I wanna run some statistics |
| 16:43.36 | winkiller | atm race/class combos and H:A numbers |
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| 17:04.59 | foxlit | Problem is, characters != players |
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| 17:23.48 | winkiller | which doesn't matter for clas/race choice |
| 17:24.02 | winkiller | why would an ally player have more alts in general than a horde player |
| 17:24.14 | winkiller | and well, ofc it is not perfect, but fun :P |
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| 17:48.06 | Ose | Kirkburn? |
| 17:48.16 | Kirkburn | sup? |
| 17:48.50 | Ose | I'm doing some testing on http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/FU , but I can't get it to transclude http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/FU/Design correctly |
| 17:48.56 | Ose | any idea why? |
| 17:49.42 | Kirkburn | it doesn't parse templates in that style |
| 17:49.52 | Kirkburn | see the start of the others |
| 17:50.08 | Kirkburn | [[Template:FA]], that is |
| 17:50.49 | Ose | I see |
| 17:51.01 | Kirkburn | It's odd, but it works :) |
| 17:51.14 | Kirkburn | (you have to change the end tag to }} _ |
| 17:52.17 | Ose | k |
| 18:05.28 | Kirkburn | An interesting comment I just read: |
| 18:05.28 | Kirkburn | Raul's Razor - An article is neutral if, after reading it, you cannot tell where the author's sympathies lie. An article is not neutral if, after reading it, you can tell where the author's sympathies lie. |
| 18:07.10 | foxlit | That misses a case |
| 18:07.32 | foxlit | An article is super-neutral if after reading it, you completely misjudge where the author's sympathies lie. |
| 18:09.02 | Kirkburn | lol |
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| 18:12.09 | montagg | Kirkburn: ty for the merge and page move. |
| 18:12.50 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 18:33.10 | Ose | KIRKURN!!!!! |
| 18:33.22 | Ose | why be choose turned of?? |
| 18:34.48 | montagg | Kirkburn: I tested the code for your custom Wikia signature that tests to see if you have a sig on that wiki. For some reason, when I save my preferences with the signature code, it adds SUBST to the beginning automatically, so it spills out the code instead of resolving #ifexists. |
| 18:35.37 | Kirkburn | Yes, that's normal |
| 18:36.22 | Ose | Kirkburn: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/FU |
| 18:37.25 | montagg | Kirkburn: So, is the code wrong or am I wrong? |
| 18:37.36 | Kirkburn | Code is, I tweaked it :P |
| 18:37.38 | Kirkburn | Still works |
| 18:40.01 | Fisker- | 21k :( |
| 18:43.12 | Kirkburn | montagg, spaces are an issue for it |
| 18:43.30 | Kirkburn | See http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Signature#Custom_signatures now |
| 18:43.31 | montagg | Kirkburn: Aha. That's where I ran into my problem. I was testing it in WoWWiki: |
| 18:44.12 | Ose | Kikrburn: what's wrong with http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/FU ? |
| 18:44.12 | montagg | Oh, you mean &nbps; not namespaces. Gotcha. |
| 18:44.22 | Kirkburn | yeah |
| 18:45.52 | Ose | s/Kikrburn/Kirkburn/ |
| 18:45.58 | Kirkburn | I'm looking! |
| 18:46.08 | Ose | then say so :P |
| 18:46.41 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Ose/FU/Design&action=edit isn't closed |
| 18:46.51 | Kirkburn | actually, hmm |
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| 18:47.27 | Ose | that wasn't a problem earlier |
| 18:47.53 | soufron | hello |
| 18:48.16 | Ose | hey soufron |
| 18:48.44 | Kirkburn | It's a problem with one of the things on http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Ose/FU&action=edit |
| 18:49.12 | Kirkburn | Fixed |
| 18:49.16 | Ose | thanks |
| 18:49.21 | Kirkburn | Unclosed [[x] |
| 18:55.59 | montagg | Those signatures in the sig parade are so ridiculous and wacky. It looks like a street in Los Angeles. |
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| 19:08.03 | [Liquidor] | Hi everyone :-) |
| 19:11.00 | montagg | Kirkburn: Is YouTube the only video sharing site wikia/mediawiki supports so far? |
| 19:29.43 | montagg | Wow. Re-working my user pages based on the name change was a much larger effort than I thought. |
| 19:29.48 | montagg | I pity Zeal. |
| 19:30.16 | Ose | yeah... |
| 19:30.34 | Ose | could use AWB or something though? |
| 19:30.45 | Ose | well, not for moving and stuff |
| 19:31.03 | montagg | AWB = auto white balance? |
| 19:31.41 | Ose | AutoWikiBrowser |
| 19:31.43 | Ose | bot |
| 19:31.58 | montagg | If I were more tech savy, I'm sure I could've written a script to go through all my pages, move them from User:Montag -> User:Montagg, and go through each page and change all the instances of Montag to Montagg, but I'm not. =c) |
| 19:32.18 | montagg | Doing it by hand also brought to light a couple other failings, so it wasn't all bad. |
| 19:32.21 | Ose | second part would be easy in awb |
| 19:33.11 | montagg | Probably. It would take me a bit of time to trust myself not to change all instances of "the" in the entire wiki to "Montagg," though. |
| 19:33.34 | montagg | Or worse, change all nouns to "murloc." |
| 19:34.20 | Ose | lol |
| 19:34.57 | Ose | it's quite easy |
| 19:35.39 | Ose | theres a "change this" box and a "change to" box |
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| 19:39.16 | montagg | Oh, nice. I'll have to look into that. |
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| 19:57.53 | Ose | looool. I tried my friends rogue in AB |
| 19:58.10 | Ose | we won, and all I did was spam sinister strike xD |
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| 20:23.51 | Ose | loooooooool |
| 20:23.59 | Ose | "Furthermore, Blizzard has given no lore to support the theory that such ruins are troll-made any more than they are Flying Spagehetti Monster-made." -Vorbis |
| 20:24.03 | sancus | Kirkburn: That's cool, I'm kinda sad my name got flopped by the merge, but oh well :P |
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| 21:00.14 | Sandwichman2448 | It is debate-y today. |
| 21:00.48 | Kirkburn | sancus, request a rename on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Upgrade_early_2008#Account_merge.2Frename.2Fproblems.3F_Post_here |
| 21:01.02 | sancus | well |
| 21:01.31 | sancus | that means I have to pick another name and meh @ that :p |
| 21:01.56 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 21:02.16 | Sandwichman2448 | is out of place, but has an idea. |
| 21:02.50 | Sandwichman2448 | Sancus2 |
| 21:02.52 | sancus | I don't think I own Sancus on wikia |
| 21:02.53 | sancus | lol |
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| 21:04.25 | Kirkburn | montagg, supposedly not |
| 21:11.07 | Kirkburn | I was going to say the youtube extension can do more than just youtube, I'm reporting that there's no further info |
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| 21:13.36 | Sandwichman2448 | Dotted got it to do flash. |
| 21:13.54 | Sandwichman2448 | thinks... |
| 21:19.48 | Sandwichman2448 | Eh. |
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| 21:24.28 | Ose | anyone have any thoughts about http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Dev (do some refreshes to check out the different stuff) |
| 21:31.55 | Kirkburn | Yay chinchillas! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Chinchillapets.jpg |
| 21:32.57 | Kirkburn | Ose, interesting |
| 21:33.26 | Ose | <3 Chinchillas <3 |
| 21:33.45 | Kirkburn | Not sure how I could get it onto the community portal (just due to how I've coded it), but the idea is cool |
| 21:39.01 | Ose | argh |
| 21:39.04 | Ose | it |
| 21:39.31 | Ose | curses this keyboard and it's enter button |
| 21:40.06 | Ose | as I was about to say, it's impossible creating a human Demon hunter in wmw |
| 21:52.22 | Kirkburn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_bad_faith |
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| 22:14.34 | Arcanedeath | What is the policy on Village Pump discussions? |
| 22:14.42 | Arcanedeath | Do you delete them when you are done? |
| 22:14.51 | Arcanedeath | or wait until they are cleaned |
| 22:16.35 | Kaso | Arcanedeath they're not deleted, they are archived occationallly |
| 22:16.48 | Kaso | people might have the same issue or something |
| 22:23.40 | Arcanedeath | I can't figure out why my php bot randomly dies... |
| 22:23.47 | Arcanedeath | keep having to restart it |
| 22:24.24 | Arcanedeath | maybe it has something to do with firefox |
| 22:24.34 | Arcanedeath | I should try running from command line |
| 22:25.02 | Kaso | you're running it from firefox? |
| 22:25.09 | Arcanedeath | lol yes |
| 22:25.38 | Kaso | hah, perhaps not, command line with stderr might help locate the issue |
| 22:29.27 | Arcanedeath | It wasn't even dying with an error so I suspect it's a memory leak or something along those lines |
| 22:29.49 | Arcanedeath | Yay, I'm at the T's |
| 22:37.04 | Arcanedeath | heh it's removing all the mobbox's from those templates now |
| 22:38.09 | Arcanedeath | oops it just tried to fix Mobbox/Example XD |
| 22:39.57 | Arcanedeath | Wow. look at this guy http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Bill10000bill |
| 22:39.59 | Arcanedeath | ego? |
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| 22:43.44 | Arcanedeath | Ya, it was firefox stopping the script |
| 22:46.56 | Arcanedeath | or maybe not |
| 22:47.11 | Arcanedeath | in terminal it actually just appears to stop doing stuff |
| 22:47.22 | Arcanedeath | maybe an infinite loop somewhere |
| 22:52.54 | pcj | wtf coobra |
| 22:53.13 | pcj | ah |
| 22:53.29 | Kirkburn | Valve's customer service: |
| 22:53.40 | Kirkburn | Justin: I keep seeing this picture above one of the spawn area exits in gravelpit. Can you tell me what it is? Thanks. http://i28.tinypic.com/fpbl0x.jpg |
| 22:53.54 | Kirkburn | Matt: Hi Justin. It appears to be a duck. |
| 22:54.41 | amro | awesomeness. |
| 22:54.42 | amro | <3 valve |
| 22:55.09 | Arcanedeath | I would like to suggest that the pages which include deprecated templates list does not include templates on the deprecated templates list, it's redundant |
| 22:55.12 | pcj | Why can't Wikia be like that |
| 22:55.29 | Arcanedeath | and subpages of those templates |
| 22:59.19 | Arcanedeath | hmm there is a typo on the npcbox page |
| 22:59.35 | Arcanedeath | first it says to use sex = and then it says gender = |
| 22:59.46 | Arcanedeath | which one |
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| 23:08.32 | Arcanedeath | Woot! bot is done! |
| 23:08.36 | Arcanedeath | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Pages_using_deprecated_templates |
| 23:15.48 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Server_requests is surprisingly short :P |
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| 23:25.32 | Kaso | Kirkburn, howcome the icons thing is on the current request section even though its listed in the completed section from 27 july 07 |
| 23:26.08 | Kirkburn | Kaso, cause it self evidently broke |
| 23:26.24 | Kaso | how odd |
| 23:28.53 | Kirkburn | Nah, just the code method broke |
| 23:29.09 | Kirkburn | By which I mean, the upgrades broke the old method |
| 23:30.52 | Arcanedeath | is regeantbox really being deprecated? |
| 23:30.52 | Arcanedeath | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Bot_requests |
| 23:33.49 | Kirkburn | dunno |
| 23:34.52 | Kirkburn | I'd check with others |
| 23:36.56 | Arcanedeath | It appears Gourra requested it |
| 23:59.53 | Kirkburn | k, trac is up to date with WoWWiki tickets. We've got a lot :P |
