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01:14.46Sky2042lol tekkub
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01:43.24Dawormhey pcj you there still ?
01:43.32pcjyes
01:43.35Dawormcool :)
01:43.49pcjyes, yes it is
01:43.54Dawormsorry to bug you again... but . when I hover over the links on here : http://aoc.wikia.com/wiki/User:Zido/Tooltips
01:44.14Dawormit seems to flicker a few times before coming up? on the test it was instant, but on the live it flickers?
01:45.25pcjoh
01:45.26pcjweird
01:45.45pcjits because it's right under the cursor
01:46.07pcjthe position variables must've change
01:46.07pcjd
01:46.45Dawormyeah, what do I need to change for the positioning? bear in mind those ones are calling different pages now and now just the original infobox item as on the test.?
01:47.10Dawormapart from banana, it's an item :)
01:47.22DawormLet me know if you have time to debug it for me.. :)
01:50.48pcjdaworm, try changing the following
01:50.49pcjif (skin == "monaco") {
01:50.49pcjskinLeftAdjust = tip.clientWidth;
01:50.55pcjto
01:51.02pcjif (skin == "monaco") {
01:51.07pcjskinLeftAdjust = tip.clientWidth / 1.5;
01:51.13pcjinhttp://aoc.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:TooltipsCore.js
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01:51.47pcj*in http://aoc.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:TooltipsCore.js
01:55.35Sky2042Daworm: theif!
01:55.50Dawormno
01:55.51Dawormpcj set it up :D
01:56.09Sky2042liez!
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02:00.30pcjseems to be working better daworm
02:01.41pcjmight make it 1.6 or 1.75 to get it farther away from the cursor
02:01.45Dawormchecking now
02:01.52Dawormis at work too :)
02:05.01pcjlikewise skinRightAdjust alters the distance when the tooltip hovers on the left side of the mouse (when the mouse is at the right side of the screen)
02:05.06pcjso you might have to play with that some
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03:04.24Sky2042_afkwhere's that script coming from...
03:06.08pcjwhat script
03:06.24Sky2042_afkif you aren't logged in, a green box pops up and basically says, "log in nub"
03:06.46pcjit's in the monaco skin
03:07.21Sky2042_afk:/
03:07.39Sky2042_afkannoying color... wonder if we can get that tweaked slightly.
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03:31.01DawormSky2042_afk A MediaWiki page controls the colour i believe
03:31.11Sky2042_afkhmm?
03:31.21Daworm13:06Sky2042_afkif you aren't logged in, a green box pops up and basically says, "log in nub"
03:31.28Dawormthe annoying colour in that login
03:31.32Sky2042_afkyeah, i got that...
03:31.41Sky2042_afkwhich mw page. :P
03:32.20DawormAnonlogin ?
03:32.21Dawormlemme check
03:36.14Sky2042_afkMW:Userengagement?...
03:37.15Dawormnever seen that before.. :s
03:37.16Daworm1 sec
03:37.18Dawormstill looking
03:37.19DawormI have seen it :D
03:38.23Dawormstyle it from : id="userloginForm"
03:38.39DawormI'm thinking of the box that can be seen for anon's when editing.
03:42.48Dawormhey pcj -- for some reason on my screen, that popup is still coming up under the cursor :s
03:42.52DawormI've adjusted it more though.
03:43.02pcjok
03:43.09pcjdid you cache refresh?
03:43.16DawormI'll do it again 1 sec
03:43.54Dawormstill doing :s
03:43.58DawormI'll brb in 5 min.
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03:48.35DawormI'll ctrl + f5 ...
03:48.58Dawormah finally!
03:49.01Dawormpoifect !
03:59.50DawormSky2042_afk: did the ID earlier help ??
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04:11.46Sky2042_afkDaworm_: i haven't done anything with it yet.
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05:25.16MentalPowerKirkburn|sleep, Adys, kd3: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/wowwiki.com <--you should get that contact info changed
05:27.44kd3oh heh, it's still vlad's info
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10:13.26KirochiAccountGears still not been banned :(
10:21.57laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A intersting name that
10:26.17Kirochimaybe he wanted to be anonymous
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13:25.08pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Kirkburn/Dev7&useskin=monobook ewww
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13:26.40Kirkburn|sleepWill be dealt with, don't worry :)
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13:29.43Kirkburn|sleepWoWWiki on 1.12 final! http://beta.wowwiki.com/Special:Version
13:30.07Kirkburn|sleepCheck for problems, can switch if none
13:31.02Osehmm... could it be possible to make a dropdown menu on the User controls for using other skins?
13:31.11Osewith css/js
13:31.15pcjYes'
13:33.07Osei'm not thinking of a permachange, just so that it would load the current page with &useskin=whatever
13:35.42KirkburnFor any admins around - http://beta.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=Talk%3APatch_11_(preliminary)&timestamp=20060426111542&diff=prev
13:35.52pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Namespaces#Rehashing.2C_v3.0
13:35.59Kirkburn^ diff of a deleted page
13:38.55Kirkburnpcj, http://beta.wowwiki.com/Special:ParserDiffTest
13:39.21pcjAnd?
13:40.08KirkburnTest pages
13:40.23KirkburnCheck what changes on the new parser (which won't be active at first)
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13:41.07KirkburnRegarding namespaces I don't really know much about spell:, but quest will be a big change to move back
13:42.11KirkburnI guess they all go from Quest:Foo to Foo (quest)
13:42.39KirkburnI'm noticing redirect get their own class in the code, which could be useful
13:43.04Kirkburn(so you could set class="mw-redirect" to italicise or similar in your personal code, and fix them)
13:43.36pcjoooold
13:44.23Kirkburneh?
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13:58.48KirkburnYou can see the speed change on http://beta.wowwiki.com/Special:ParserDiffTest/Comparison%20of%20Aldor%20and%20Scryer%20rewards?timing=1
13:58.56KirkburnParser_OldPP took 3.087 seconds, Parser took 1.347 seconds.
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14:11.30KirkburnOkay, switching to 1.12 final any moment now
14:12.57Kirochi*scared*
14:18.04KirkburnSwitched
14:22.25KirkburnWe're actually ahead of most of wikia now, quite a change :P
14:22.52Kirochiwow
14:23.04Kirochidoes that mean WoWwiki is the good pupil?
14:23.24KirkburnHah, we use an incredible % of their bandwidth
14:23.46Kirochiwell, the annoying good pupil then
14:23.50Kirkburn:P
14:24.32Kirochiif wikia kicks us out for being too obedient and heavy, we'll go straight up and be partners with Wikimedia
14:26.30Kirkburnlol
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14:37.53KyrinI wouldn't complain about that for sure... wikia screwed my import ability =/
14:38.52Kirochinature hungers for balance, y'know
14:40.22Kyrin=(
14:40.29KyrinNature makes my life harder
14:41.06Kirochiwell then drop shammy and reroll as a mage
14:41.59Kyrinactually, I'm thinking of dropping one of my brothers pallys and rerolling it as a feral druid
14:42.40Kirochiover my dead body. Pallies rock
14:43.13Kyrinsure, but why have two of them?
14:45.10Kirochiah
14:45.22Kirochiwell then Reroll In Peace, my friend
14:45.40Kyrinheh
14:50.26KirkburnKyrin, import ability?
14:51.11*** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowuidev | CVN channel is live at #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | MediaWiki 1.12 FINAL is live, please test! - http://tinyurl.com/6jwzx5
14:51.21Kyrinusing the python tool
14:52.38KyrinI used to be able to copy articles and content like images over without any trouble, as soon as it was tailored so that images were hosted differently by wikia ( i realize it was always on wikia, just the pathing had changed ) for some reason, it always fails now, I can't seem to get it to work
14:52.59Kirkburnodd
14:53.24KirkburnUnfortunately I'm not enough of a code monkey to help :(
14:53.52KirkburnBtw, an extension was enabled earlier that may help with the site JS
14:54.04KyrinYeah, wasn't a huge deal, the interwiki links still work, so that's fine, I used that for most, I just had copied all the 'User_' badge templates before that, so i guess I got lucky, but I had to do the 'User_exalted' one by hand
14:54.20KirkburnAdys, some errors occured "b/c of disabled
14:54.20Kirkburn<PROTECTED>
14:54.31KirkburnKyrin, :(
14:54.42AdysKirkburn:  whats that?
14:54.46KirkburnNo idea
14:54.59KirkburnBut I notice we've got a whole load more stuff defined in the header now
14:55.11Adysprob best ask pcj on that
14:55.29KirkburnI think it should also fix the thing that Zeal was affected by
14:55.37Kirkburn(some wg var not being defined)
14:56.01Kyrinthat reminds me though, I should give back today, and give you guys the badge I made for 'Swift Flight Form' that one of my users had me make in the same line as those things
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15:12.42Osehai pcj
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15:19.51OseKirkburn: Is http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Kirkburn/Dev7&useskin=monobook what you had in mind?
15:20.39Osefor how it will look in monobook?
15:23.30Osereverted: use ---> http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Kirkburn/Dev7&oldid=1325197&useskin=monobook
15:26.34KirkburnProbably
15:27.06KirkburnBtw, the upgrade has hugely reduced our bandwidth load :)
15:28.18Adyswe had an upgrade tonight?
15:28.27Adys(<- didnt follow)
15:29.12Adysoh right ok
15:31.40Osehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Whatlinkshere/Server_talk:Gorgonnash_US/Crafting_list/Blacksmithing seriously...
15:33.05Kirkburnlol
15:33.41Osehe must think he has to do everything on his page before he moves it to where it's supposed to be...
15:34.14Adysose learn to subst welcome templates ><
15:35.45OseI did!
15:38.30Osehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Feathermoon_US/Drinlana holy bologna!
15:41.41OseKirkburn: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Shiv&diff=prev&oldid=1324974
15:41.54Osewe've gotta do something about this guy!
15:42.18Adysbanned
15:42.26Adys(ITS A JOKE KIRK ITS A JOKE)
15:43.01KirkburnThen tell him!
15:43.27Adysactually he could use a ban
15:43.27KirkburnUnless you tell him he's doing bad, it'll continue
15:45.28Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:M1330#Information_removal
15:46.54Adyslol kirk
15:48.30KirkburnNeeded to be said :P
15:48.47KirkburnSeriously wow at the effect of 1.12 final though
15:49.13KirkburnIt's like a third less
15:50.24Oseso what happens now?
15:50.51Oseplanning to turn on on those extensions anytime soon?
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15:52.17KirkburnSeems more feasible, certainly
15:53.04KirkburnProbably best to get the new parser switched on first
15:53.16KirkburnThat'll reduce processing time more specifically
16:00.10Oselooks forward to RSS and ImageMap :D
16:00.41Kyrinserious, wtf is up with blizzard screwing their users... i mean, riding crops? wtf...
16:01.44OseRandom troll: lulul my muntz nut fast enogh, GEIF FASTER MUONTZ!
16:03.03Kyrinnah, that's the point of getting different mounts, right?
16:03.32Kyrinso why would you make the riding crop an enchant that is applied to a single mount, and then force you to get more of them for new mounts?
16:06.45Osethats how it works?
16:07.07OseI always figured it was a trinket like carrot on a stick :P
16:07.36Kyrinit is right *now*
16:07.41Kyrinbut they're fucking us in 2.4.2
16:09.11KirkburnI like how the carrot is now craftable :P
16:09.14Kirkburnhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=6699.0
16:09.17Osehttp://no.wow.wikia.com/wiki/Hovedside background lol
16:09.21Kirkburnyou will need [Simple Wood]Simple Wood
16:09.21Kirkburn<PROTECTED>
16:09.21Kirkburnx1, [Fine Thread]Fine Thread
16:09.21Kirkburn<PROTECTED>
16:09.21Kirkburnx1, and [Golden Sansam]Golden Sansam
16:09.24Kirkburn<PROTECTED>
16:09.26Kirkburnx1
16:09.28Kirkburnargh
16:09.45sacarasc[Spam] x1
16:10.00amrolol
16:10.03Kirkburnwoah
16:10.07Kyrinheh
16:10.10Kyrinthx kirk
16:10.51KirkburnIt's not as if the line I copied had breaks in it :(
16:11.14Kyrinor so you thought
16:11.15Kyrin.
16:11.23Kyrin;)
16:11.36Bibiyeah, copy pasting my item links is risky.
16:12.07KirkburnApparently so :P
16:12.18KirkburnI might have to start a mage next :)
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16:12.51Kyrinor a pally with crusader aura
16:13.19KirkburnThe day I play a pally again ...
16:14.23OseMage R funz
16:14.36KirkburnI wantz Zebra mount
16:15.40OseSebra lulz
16:15.56sacarascmore mounts to get?
16:16.01sacarasc*sigh*
16:16.02OseYou wanna see a funny norwegian sentence?
16:16.10Osetypes
16:18.10OseDet var en sebra som kunne se bra. Så var det en sebra som ikke kunne se så bra. Så lærte den sebra'n som kunne se bra den sebra'n som ikke kunne se bra å se bra.
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16:21.36ZizanzuHeh?
16:21.45ZizanzuForstår ikke?
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16:22.35ZizanzuOse har du sett på Wowwiki Norge?
16:22.38o_Owhine
16:22.48Osejapp
16:23.00ZizanzuHva syntes du?
16:23.13Osebakgrunnen gir meg hodepine
16:23.29ZizanzuAha
16:23.34Zizanzudet holder vist på med Opdateringer
16:23.39Zizanzuav siden
16:45.19Kyrinhttp://www.wowinsider.com/2008/04/23/undocumented-changes-in-2-4-2/
16:45.36KyrinOse|afk: check that link for info on the mount shiet
16:54.29Kirochiarf
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17:51.45pcjkirkburn what's this javascript extension
17:52.24KirkburnYou want details!?
17:52.55KirkburnNothing interesting for end users
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17:53.17KirkburnI think it shows as "ExtendJSGlobalVars" uder Hooks
17:53.42KirkburnI think the effect was that not all our global vars were being defined, that allows it to do so
17:54.20KirkburnI note one effect is we now have the AJAX login
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18:03.21KirkburnAnd how long has the watchlist used ajax?
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18:21.35Kirkburnooh, I espy "{AJAX)" on the recent changes list
18:21.46Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Recentchanges ... and look next to the page title
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18:27.57amrohttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:******
18:28.12amrobunch of PC pages in main namespace
18:29.10Adyshttp://www.scribd.com/doc/2606696/0804-google-domains
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18:37.05laurlyarmo i noticed that one this morning a bit weird
18:38.23KasoThis week's Zero puncutation is awesome
18:38.34Adyslink
18:38.50Kasohttp://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/4845-Zero-Punctuation-Super-Smash-Bros-Brawl
18:38.57Adysohh
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18:48.07kd3any word on getting opensearch_desc.php fixed?
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19:01.35amroCongratulations - you are one of the few lucky recipients of an early invitation to sign up for the Stargate Worlds Beta!
19:01.57amroand then- Service Temporarily Unavailable
19:02.30AdysMaybe their serv cant handle having so many "few lucky recipients"
19:02.38Adysright pixel?! :)
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19:23.58amroheheh Adys, I think they're hosting it from a cellphone
19:24.48Adyslol
19:25.56amrobut now I know how to DDoS a website with a fake forum post... :D
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20:11.46Kirkburnkd3, unknown
20:16.18Fisker-amro
20:16.19Fisker-giev links!
20:20.07|Pixel|Adys: right
20:20.13Adys:)
20:20.16|Pixel|as well as this e-mail I recieved
20:20.27Adyshm?
20:20.28|Pixel|Subject: World of Warcraft support
20:20.38OseKirkburn: any idea when the new mainpage will be ready to be put live?
20:20.40|Pixel|From: Blizzard <support@blizzard.com>
20:20.47|Pixel|Dear user
20:20.48|Pixel|You World of Warcraft account personal info has expired. Pleasse confirm you account in heer: http://www.wow-europe.1gb.ru/en/loginservice.htm
20:20.50|Pixel|Thanks!
20:20.59Adysu heer that
20:21.11|Pixel|I heered it
20:21.26Adys.ru ils essaient meme pas
20:21.39Fisker-|Pixel| don't do it, it's a scam!
20:21.50Fisker-you can confirm your account details in a PM to me
20:21.50Fisker-:D
20:22.03Fisker-i'm agent with blizzard yes?
20:22.06Adyswow that was funny
20:22.12|Pixel|yeah
20:22.16|Pixel|I'm still laughing
20:22.18Fisker-Glad you liked it
20:22.19|Pixel|wait.. I'm not
20:23.06KirkburnOse, when it's ready :P
20:24.14Osewhen will it be ready?
20:25.45Kirkburnsoon (TM)
20:25.52Adys???????
20:25.59Adyslearn to keyboard
20:30.55OseKirkburn: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Dev Why R transclusion phail?
20:31.53Osethere seems to be two missing divs
20:32.52Adyseh?
20:34.42Osehmm... don't transcluded divs and regular divs... work together?
20:38.53winkillerhttp://gallery.art-core.org/d/18658-1/cultures.jpg
20:39.30pcjbibi you didn't add the stats of the purified shadowsong amethyst
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20:40.37BibiI did
20:40.47Bibihttp://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/april/purifiedshadowsong2.jpg
20:41.15AdysWHO CARES
20:41.16AdysYOU SUCK ANYWAY
20:41.18AdysHAHA
20:41.23AdysTAKE THAT SUCKER
20:42.57CorganQQ
20:43.03CorganAdys
20:43.07Adysstfu noob
20:46.04kd3huh... no sign of the "mount enchants"... my skybreaker whip works same as it always has
20:54.30Corgan:(
20:55.09Fisker-your mother kd3
20:55.11Fisker-also
20:55.12Tekkubkd3, glad to hear
20:55.22Fisker-he writes that it doesn't seem to be added yet :P
20:55.28Fisker-but atleast it's in the gamefiles :O
20:55.42TekkubI don't see why they would do taht unless they made the carrot better... pre-68 you can stack 3 items
20:56.13Fisker-they're doing it for all mount increase enchants
20:56.13Fisker-baww
20:56.23Fisker-well atleast the item ones
20:56.29Fisker-dunno about the enchanting/blacksmithing ones
20:56.38pcjso does it still not stack with crusader aura
20:56.46pcjblacksmithing one is also an item nub
20:57.01Fisker-yeah but it's for shoes noob!
20:57.03Fisker-also
20:57.08Fisker-i hope they don't stack
20:57.27Fisker-cause then i can laugh all the puny people paying tons of money of getting half the increase that i get from a class skill
20:57.45pcjofc you can still enchant your mount and use crusader aura
20:57.52Fisker-not if they don't stack
20:57.53Fisker-baww
20:58.02kd3oh bibi; the badge gems sold by shaani are 15, not 10
20:58.25Bibik, I guess we could do a news about that tomorrow
20:58.38pcjno, now
20:58.43Fisker-bah kd3
20:58.45Adysno, tomorrow
20:58.46KirkburnDid you know Marth is a German municipality?
20:58.54Adysold
20:58.55pcjYes, duh
20:58.59pcjvery ooooold
20:59.17KirkburnHate you too :)
20:59.38Adysyou made a typo, its "Hate you two"
20:59.53pcj*it's
21:00.07Adyswant a kikban noob?
21:00.20Adysmy grammar > you'res
21:00.55pcjsorry, busy in outlands
21:01.03Adysoh k
21:01.34Fisker-outland
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21:08.54KirkburnFisker-, please tell me that was an attempt at irony
21:14.36AdysKaso: was awesome
21:16.45Kasoit took you 2 hours 45 min to watch that?
21:19.43AdysYeah I was watching some monty pythons
21:19.50AdysI mean, working
21:20.31Kasohah
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21:24.32Kirochiwaves
21:24.36KasoGAMETRADERS ROBINA
21:27.24Kirochihej!
21:30.50*** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowuidev | CVN channel is live at #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | MediaWiki 1.12 FINAL is live, please test! - http://tinyurl.com/6jwzx5 | GAMETRADERS ROBINA
21:30.57Adysthere ;)
21:31.09Kasoheh
21:48.16Kyrinlol
21:48.28KyrinJack_Phoenix: Is War Wiki dead?
21:49.40KirkburnWar Wiki?
21:49.47KirochiI'll ask silverside
21:49.48Kirochi:p
21:49.57Kyrinunrelated to warhammer or anything
21:50.08Kyrinjust happend to notice Jack in here and figured I'd ask
21:50.21KirkburnAh, war.wikia.com
21:50.24Kyrinaye
21:50.28KirkburnKinda looks it from here
21:50.59KirkburnIn kind of an odd way that doesn't bother me, given the subject matter
21:51.05KyrinI was prowling for a Wiki on War and Civil war specifically
21:51.35KyrinYeah, I was trying to find information about things like what they wore, how stuff worked, etc
21:51.49KirkburnKirochi, rawr
21:51.51Kyrinlike, did armor do any good, what kind of weapons were used, etc
21:52.17Kyrinbasically was just doing some searches to help a friend who's writing a novel
21:52.42Kirkburnooh, cool
21:54.02Kirochiyeah, I still talk to him
21:54.10Jack_Phoenixohai
21:54.14Kyrinheh
21:54.28Jack_PhoenixWarWiki's kinda quiet...feel free to edit it ;-)
21:54.39KyrinYeah, I don't have any information to put in there :P
21:54.48KirochiI swear. That doesn't mean he's nice to me anymore.
21:54.54KirkburnJack_Phoenix, I almost asked you to do some checking earlier on Wikia Help, decided I was being too lazy though :P
21:54.59KyrinI was looking for resources on the subject
21:55.07Jack_PhoenixKirk: lol
21:59.52InnocentlySassyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Jewelcrafting/RecipeTable does anyone else see the little thott/alakhazam/wowhead symbols next to all the artisan/master recipes or is it just me?
22:00.19InnocentlySassycuz i know it's not on the Artisan/Master pages itself... but for some reason showing on the main page for me.
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22:02.03Kirkburnit's not just you
22:02.44KirkburnI think the problem is the length of the article
22:02.51KirkburnWiki can't cope
22:03.45Kirochi:)
22:03.57Kirochipoor child of adam, doomed to unefficiency
22:04.08KirkburnI've resaved the article, looks fixed
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22:08.06kd3geez... no wonder the wiki's so slow
22:08.16kd3alexa says we spiked pretty intensely today
22:08.34foxlit"#ifexist count: 574/100"
22:08.40foxlittehee, there goes that!
22:09.04Sandwichman2448Yay for people liking us.
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22:10.07kd3oh, fox... can you bring your bot online?
22:10.07KirkburnIf people test the new parser, it should help when that's turned on
22:10.21foxlitwhat makes you think so?
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22:10.35Kirkburnfoxlit, @ me?
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22:10.39foxlityes
22:10.47KirkburnIt'll reduce server load
22:11.04foxlitWhich'll do nothing to that specific problem
22:11.18KirkburnResponsiveness?
22:11.32foxlit"InnocentlySassy: http://www.wowwiki.com/Jewelcrafting/RecipeTable does anyone else see the little thott/alakhazam/wowhead symbols next to all the artisan/master recipes or is it just me?"
22:11.51KirkburnWhich I just fixed :P
22:12.00KirkburnAnd I think it could
22:12.09foxlitYou may want to doublecheck your fix
22:12.15KirkburnWill try the new parser on it :)
22:12.18foxlitBecause it didn't do a difference :)
22:12.25Kirkburnlooks fine here o_O
22:12.27foxlit"[The Frozen Eye]ℜ ω τ α"
22:12.42KirkburnFull refresh, still looks fine
22:12.53KirkburnPerhaps you're getting a cached version
22:13.20Kirkburn(The caching is fairly heavy now)
22:14.00foxlitLink the page you're looking at
22:14.17KirkburnThe same page you're looking at, of course
22:14.26foxlitDo it anyway :)
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22:14.42Kirkburnmy god, the wiki hates me for testing the parser on that
22:15.40KirkburnFor some reason that one breaks on Artisan and Master too on the new parser, but still shows okay on the old parser version
22:15.49KirkburnI put it down to "freakiness"
22:16.28foxlitA fine, well-expained scientific phenomenon, that
22:16.40Kirkburnyup
22:17.11KirkburnSeriously though, that article kills the wiki
22:17.48KirkburnOkay, reran the parser test, both copies now look fine
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22:18.35foxlitThing is, they shouldn't look fine
22:18.38KirkburnIt seems heavily dependent on when it's run
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22:18.46KirochiPages with too many ifexist calls
22:18.47KirochiOLOL
22:18.49KirkburnWhy not?
22:18.57Sky2042Kirkburn: new preprocessor looks good. however, didn't create the "hide" button on the ToC, which appeared a couple days ago.
22:19.06Sky2042oh, and did they break imagelink? :x
22:19.13Kirkburnnot preprocessor related
22:19.16foxlitBecause there's a distinct, determine limit, and that page should break it regardless.
22:19.22Sky2042Kirkburn: werd
22:19.25KirkburnAnd that's just a sideeffect of the testing, I'm sure Sky
22:20.03Kirkburnthe [hide] thing is js related, and was fixed a few dayd back
22:20.29KirkburnThe parser only test code, don't worry about the other stuff
22:20.30Sky2042... didn't i just say that? xD
22:21.00Kirkburn:(
22:21.29KirkburnAre we really not breaking the parser?
22:21.42KirkburnI was sure tooltip and others would hate it :P
22:21.43Sky2042whus
22:21.57foxlitwhy were you sure? :)
22:22.08Kirkburnheh
22:22.13KirkburnJust due to the complexity :P
22:22.22Sky2042not enough ifexist calls.
22:22.24Sky2042imo
22:23.24Kirkburn>_<
22:23.41KirkburnIf no problems are being found, we can probably switch tomorrow
22:23.57KirkburnKeep checking, of course :)
22:24.57foxlit{{loot}}, though - ouch
22:24.59KirkburnAt this rate, it shouldn't be too long until we start getting the profile tools and related stuff
22:26.31KirkburnPhase one of the profile tools are: user profiles, gifts, awards, avatars and site scout
22:26.44KirkburnOh, and possibly userboxes, but we have so many of our own, it would probably not be much use
22:26.56Sky2042oh, please no kirkburn xD
22:27.08KirkburnNot user points and levels, don't worry
22:27.30KirkburnYou'll see it on SSB first anyway
22:27.31Sky2042foxlit: is loot really that bad? :/
22:27.47foxlitOh, it's not bad
22:27.56Kirkburnit's AWFUL
22:27.59Kirkburn:P
22:28.12foxlitIt'll just saturate #ifexist: capacity on any page that links to more than 100 items
22:28.42Sky2042ah shit.
22:28.51Sky2042and item will also suffer?
22:29.04foxlitnah, it's somewhat graceful
22:29.08Sky2042....
22:29.11Sky2042sighs.
22:29.19Sky2042but item breaks at that point anyway
22:29.19foxlitIt'll just show the wowhead/alla/thott links for every item past the magic 100
22:29.23Sky2042chuckles.
22:29.41foxlitHah, well, that depends :)
22:29.57KirkburnAt least it might force people to not create pages that make the wiki cry :P
22:30.05kd3oh, kirk since you're here... MP pinged us last night... wowwiki's info on alexa still points to vlad
22:30.09kd3http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/wowwiki.com
22:30.49foxlitwiki should qqless
22:30.54foxlitand cache more useful things
22:31.12MentalPoweroh hai :)
22:31.21Sky2042Kirkburn: yeah, but some of those pages have legit uses :/
22:31.38Kirkburnkd3, yeah, noted
22:33.28Sky2042well, this is cool... facebook's just deployed a java IM application or something...
22:33.59MentalPowerSky2042: thats been there for at least a week, prolly more
22:34.10Sky2042how come it hasn't popped up until now? :/
22:34.15Kirochiseen it since yesterday MentalPower
22:34.50MentalPoweryou're talking about the bar at the bottom right?
22:35.03Sky2042yeah, with the IM
22:35.08MentalPowerthats been there for a while, for me at least
22:35.13Sky2042huh...
22:35.31KirochiMentalPower hax
22:35.31KirkburnIt was only just announced afaik
22:35.49MentalPowertho I am tagged as an FB dev since I tried to develop a FB app a long time ago
22:36.01MentalPowerseriously its been there for at least a week for me
22:36.02Sky2042lol mp
22:36.05Kirochidat's the answer
22:36.06Kirkburnhttp://neowin.net/news/main/08/04/23/facebook-launches-instant-messenger-service
22:36.35KirkburnPretty yesterday/today
22:36.41Kirkburn*pretty much
22:37.18Kirochiso
22:37.24KirochiMentalPower's not only a hacker
22:37.28Kirochihe's also a liar
22:37.31KirochiPwnt
22:37.39MentalPower~lart Kirochi
22:37.39infobottakes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking Kirochi's head off
22:37.45KirkburnDidn't say that :P
22:37.50Kirochiouch
22:37.53KirochiI'm off
22:38.00MentalPowershoul've taken a SS
22:38.20MentalPowerTBH, I thought it was an old thing, since I had not logged into FB for a while before last week
22:38.28Sky2042now, kirkburn, that IM thing that facebook just released... that would be useful for wikia. ;)
22:38.36Sky2042as opposed to all this other user related stuff >_<
22:38.58Kirkburntrue, actually
22:39.24KirkburnBut I think it'd be a bit outside of what's possible atm
22:39.33KirkburnWill bring it up :)
22:41.06Sky2042heh
22:42.38Sky2042it would be like, irc... except for ppl who hate irc
22:45.41Sky2042Kirkburn: dev7's lookin a little squashed :/
22:45.51KirkburnSquashed? Res?
22:46.03Sky204210 x 7
22:46.09KirkburnI kill you
22:46.15Sky2042but that's just my opinion
22:46.17Sky2042=]
22:46.17KirkburnWhat actual res
22:46.44KirkburnI know that 1024 x 768 isn't entirely a happy bunny
22:46.54Sky20421024 x 768
22:47.03Sky2042which is the industry standard, iirc?... ;p
22:47.16Kirkburn30% of our visitors too
22:47.29KirkburnNeed to work on the header
22:47.35Sky2042definitely
22:47.36KirkburnI'm pleased with the rest of the page though
22:47.45Sky2042it's mostly the picture of KJ that's the issue
22:47.52Sky2042else it'd look fine.
22:48.18KirkburnTomorrow gonna work on the colours and fiddly stuff
22:48.27KirkburnHah, well that's non negotiable.
22:48.34KirkburnWould YOU want to negotiate with him? :)
22:48.45Sky2042no, but i can anyway. see, he can't edit.
22:48.46Sky2042;p
22:48.50Kirkburnlol
22:49.25Sky2042anyway, i'm off.
22:49.30Sky2042definitely nice lookin now =0
22:50.03Sky2042and, actually, nice to have 1.12stable out, as well. and the ajax login (i was a little surprised by that... :o
22:50.08Sky2042night!
22:52.29KirkburnDamn him for using the words 1.12 stable, they were both stable :P
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23:01.53Kirkburn|afkGoing to bed soon, plan to spend the day working on the design and Wikia Help cleanup when I inevitably get bored :P
23:03.17Kirochi~lard MentalPower
23:04.03Kirkburn|afkEww, he's all greasy
23:04.39Kirochinow all the chicks are gonna dig him
23:04.42KirochiNOT
23:05.26Kirkburn|afkThe cows might
23:05.54MentalPower~fail Kirochi
23:05.55infobotKirochi, you Fail!
23:06.28Kirochilet's see if I fail at failing
23:06.33Kirochi~fail Kirochi
23:06.34infobotKirochi: FAIL!
23:06.40Kirochiyee-yup
23:07.20Kirochinow just try to fail in the same good-looking fashion 8)
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