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| 00:41.06 | Sky2042_afk | Adys: i think commons at wikimedia has a tango project cat for svgs |
| 00:41.15 | Adys | o rly?!!? |
| 00:41.24 | Adys | i pull them off there just fyi |
| 00:41.41 | Sky2042_afk | zomg |
| 00:41.45 | Sky2042_afk | nowai! |
| 00:42.02 | Sky2042_afk | keke\ |
| 00:42.03 | Adys | the skin needs serious improvements performancewise |
| 00:42.16 | Sky2042_afk | which skin? |
| 00:42.20 | Adys | new one |
| 00:42.25 | Sky2042_afk | ie monaco |
| 00:42.34 | Sky2042_afk | which, i agree with. |
| 00:42.36 | Adys | its my third segfault on wowwiki in less than 20 mins due to memory ovf |
| 00:42.59 | Sky2042_afk | i think it's the javascript in the side-menu, more than anything :/ |
| 00:43.05 | Sky2042_afk | or the widgets |
| 00:43.14 | Adys | i yanked all the widgets |
| 00:43.18 | Sky2042_afk | keke. |
| 00:43.18 | Adys | think im gonna disable js on ww |
| 00:43.36 | Sky2042_afk | that might be a bad idea, but w/e. |
| 00:43.57 | Adys | hows that a bad idea theres sod all js i use on here |
| 00:44.38 | Sky2042_afk | tooltips? iunno. |
| 00:44.49 | Sky2042_afk | could always use the old skin instead of the new. |
| 00:44.51 | Adys | who uses those seriously |
| 00:45.43 | Adys | pcj: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Ttbackground.png still using that? |
| 00:45.54 | pcj | yes... |
| 00:46.02 | Adys | mind switching over to svg? |
| 00:46.13 | pcj | If you create it |
| 00:46.21 | Adys | sure |
| 00:46.22 | Adys | and errr |
| 00:46.27 | Sky2042_afk | i thought you uploaded on for kirkburn |
| 00:46.30 | Sky2042_afk | one* |
| 00:46.31 | Adys | why exactly are you using that instead of background color? |
| 00:46.58 | pcj | Eh? |
| 00:47.14 | Adys | Why are you using that instead of a div background color |
| 00:47.32 | pcj | Div background color wouldn't be partially transparent |
| 00:48.16 | Adys | Hm damnit |
| 00:48.50 | Adys | is transparency necessary? |
| 00:49.08 | pcj | It's spiffier |
| 00:49.15 | Adys | so web 1.8 |
| 00:50.16 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
| 00:50.35 | Adys | just seems like an unnecessary memory hog to me |
| 00:50.55 | Sky2042 | (omg, someone agrees with me!!!!!111elven!_ |
| 00:51.09 | pcj | Well, last I checked, that was how Wowhead did it |
| 00:51.18 | Adys | wowhead uses a much bigger image |
| 00:51.38 | Adys | which is less memory activity |
| 00:51.39 | pcj | Wouldn't that mean more to load |
| 00:51.43 | pcj | hmm |
| 00:51.44 | Adys | nah |
| 00:51.52 | Adys | most browsers treat the image as x times a small image |
| 00:51.56 | pcj | Well, if you fix it so it's bigger and SVG, that's fine |
| 00:52.01 | Adys | sure |
| 00:52.20 | Adys | Which transparency %? |
| 00:52.36 | pcj | I don't remember |
| 00:54.23 | Sky2042 | btw, Adys, are you stealing my image deletions? |
| 00:54.37 | Adys | feel free to do it |
| 00:54.40 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 00:58.10 | Adys | pcj: |
| 00:58.10 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Ttbackground.svg |
| 00:58.15 | Adys | 80% transparency |
| 00:58.27 | Adys | the png wasnt transparent at all it seems |
| 00:59.33 | Adys | This page is valid SVG 1.1 |
| 00:59.35 | Adys | Geeky! |
| 01:00.25 | Sky2042 | lol |
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| 01:02.36 | kd3 | sweet. partially-transparent tooltips |
| 01:03.54 | pcj | too transparent adys |
| 01:04.05 | Adys | i think your js makes it more transparent than it is |
| 01:04.19 | pcj | it doesn't... |
| 01:04.29 | pcj | ttBgStyle = "background: transparent url(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/thumb/c/c0/Ttbackground.svg/275px-Ttbackground.svg.png);"; |
| 01:04.41 | Adys | first image wasnt transparent |
| 01:04.46 | Adys | yet it looked transparent in the tooltip |
| 01:05.05 | Adys | either way your js makes me segfault |
| 01:05.15 | pcj | lol |
| 01:06.26 | Adys | and now it doesnt work at all |
| 01:06.29 | Adys | :( |
| 01:06.32 | Sky2042 | teh lulz |
| 01:06.35 | pcj | ...works fine for me |
| 01:06.43 | Adys | oh yeah |
| 01:06.46 | Adys | its just wowwiki sucking |
| 01:07.02 | Adys | that doesnt look too transparent to me |
| 01:07.11 | pcj | ... |
| 01:07.15 | pcj | it's like glass |
| 01:07.35 | Adys | web 2.0 what i said |
| 01:08.31 | Adys | there changed to 90% |
| 01:08.57 | Adys | can i delete the first one? |
| 01:09.04 | Adys | (png) |
| 01:09.31 | pcj | uh might want to wait a few days for people's cache to expire |
| 01:10.02 | Adys | here goes another segfault |
| 01:10.03 | Adys | sigh |
| 01:12.09 | pcj | well if you know a js memory usage profiler i'll look at it |
| 01:12.28 | Adys | Dont think its your tooltip specifically |
| 01:12.32 | Adys | its wowwiki's js entirely |
| 01:13.30 | pcj | well, do you block the google ad JS |
| 01:13.37 | Adys | nope |
| 01:13.39 | pcj | because that's a hunk of code if i've ever seen it |
| 01:14.10 | Adys | well yeah but its on fucktons of websites and wowwiki is the only one causing those segfaults on js usage :P |
| 01:14.34 | pcj | well it probably clashes with wikia's setup somehow |
| 01:14.40 | pcj | you're using monaco too, so that might suck |
| 01:21.00 | pcj | might be the navigation menus on the left adys |
| 01:21.04 | pcj | lots of people complaining about them |
| 01:21.06 | Adys | im pretty sure it is |
| 01:21.15 | Adys | its stupid |
| 01:21.20 | pcj | yeah |
| 01:21.29 | Adys | horrible hogs like picasa, gmail and google reader dont cause any problems |
| 01:21.40 | Adys | but simple nav menus cant do shit correctly |
| 01:22.08 | pcj | good thing devs are working on stuff like editsimilar before getting the bugs fixed |
| 01:22.22 | Adys | indeed :/ |
| 01:23.10 | Adys | right time to fix those dbcs |
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| 01:31.13 | Sky2042_afk | Adys: "but simple nav menus cant do shit correctly" I think part of the issue is that they're customizable. |
| 01:31.21 | Sky2042_afk | by end user and/or admin |
| 01:31.24 | Adys | lol you kidding me |
| 01:31.36 | Adys | now you gonna tell me picasa or gmail are less memory hungry than customizable menus |
| 01:31.54 | Sky2042_afk | ... :o |
| 01:31.56 | pcj | pfft |
| 01:31.59 | Sky2042_afk | besides, it's mediawiki |
| 01:32.05 | Adys | so? |
| 01:32.06 | Sky2042_afk | we know how much you love mediawiki adys, eh? |
| 01:32.16 | Adys | mediawiki doesnt have a bit of js active by default |
| 01:32.18 | pcj | uh wikia has back-end skin access |
| 01:32.20 | Adys | not even the slightest |
| 01:32.24 | pcj | they designed the skin up from scratch |
| 01:32.52 | pcj | it's not like they're running JS like i am, generated post-content load |
| 01:33.55 | pcj | anyway, their JS is needlessly bloated |
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| 04:47.42 | Addybot | Highlighted Items: TechCrunch - Alexa Overhauls Ranking System - Read more: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/16/alexa-overhauls-ranking-system/ |
| 04:54.37 | Adys | Kirkburn|sleep: Fix the wiki seriously |
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| 05:42.29 | pcj | what's wrong now adys |
| 05:42.39 | Adys | its slow as shit |
| 05:42.58 | pcj | slow loading, slow rendering, slow what |
| 05:43.00 | Corgan | I thought you said what's wrong with adys |
| 05:43.01 | Corgan | :> |
| 05:43.10 | Adys | foff sucker |
| 05:43.13 | Adys | slow loading |
| 05:43.15 | Adys | slow rendering |
| 05:43.18 | Adys | slow whatever |
| 05:43.22 | Adys | offtopic, http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/16/2337224&from=rss |
| 05:44.04 | pcj | :o |
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| 07:16.57 | Bagginsww | Heyo |
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| 09:35.09 | laurly | good bot ozze are male i like that. http://www.wowwiki.com/Black_Blood_of_Draenor |
| 09:41.31 | laurly | oh even better all monsters are male :) |
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| 09:58.29 | Dotted | yeah laurly you really like those males dont ya |
| 10:03.51 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowuidev | CVN channel is live at #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | <laurly> oh even better all monsters are male :) |
| 10:03.57 | Adys | laurly: couldnt resist |
| 10:04.37 | laurly | can someone get cvn bot to piss off? |
| 10:04.48 | Adys | hahahah |
| 10:05.04 | laurly | im going to be the queen of gibberish by the end of the day |
| 10:05.33 | laurly | ohh finaly found a bug in the bot |
| 10:05.44 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowuidev | CVN channel is live at #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | <laurly> oh even better all monsters are male :) | <+laurly> im going to be the queen of gibberish by the end of the day |
| 10:06.11 | laurly | hmmm im in the topic again. |
| 10:06.23 | Adys | twice |
| 10:06.50 | laurly | lol |
| 10:09.10 | Adys | ok time to finish the dbc parsing |
| 10:09.11 | Adys | almost done |
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| 10:20.43 | lTorf | hello |
| 10:40.57 | Fisker- | btw Dotted |
| 10:40.58 | Fisker- | :D |
| 10:41.06 | Fisker- | [08:29:24] <MiA^> Ja godmorgen til dig også! |
| 10:41.06 | Fisker- | [08:29:46] <MiA^> Først puller du kazzak, så min q failer, og så killer du mig igen |
| 10:41.08 | laurly | all your recent changes are belonging to me. |
| 10:41.31 | Dotted | loooooooooooool |
| 10:57.05 | laurly | hmm my danish is grate when im pissed off |
| 10:58.45 | Dagmar | So, tell us how you feel about GearScore. ;) |
| 10:58.50 | Fisker- | your mother and so forth |
| 11:03.44 | Adys | <textureArmUpperVal>Generic_HuWk_01_Sleeve_AU</textureArmUpperVal> |
| 11:03.44 | Adys | <textureArmLowerVal>Generic_HuWk_01_Sleeve_AL</textureArmLowerVal> |
| 11:03.48 | Adys | here we go |
| 11:05.26 | Dagmar | Someday warcrafter.net will start showing my toon with _pants_ |
| 11:09.06 | Adys | i wonder how big a spell.dbc converted to xml would be |
| 11:09.27 | Dagmar | 'bout 40x larger |
| 11:09.39 | Adys | 40 times? you're sick :) |
| 11:09.41 | Dagmar | Mebbe 20x |
| 11:09.50 | Adys | Im betting on a good 80 times |
| 11:10.00 | Dagmar | I'm making some assumptions about XML tag size overhead and packed binary formats in the original |
| 11:10.11 | Adys | we'll find out soon |
| 11:14.50 | Dagmar | I'd love to report the "no pants" thing to the warcrafter.net guys, but I know better than to post something like that on the WoW forums |
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| 11:15.10 | Dagmar | ...even if was buried on page 75 of an obscure thread in OT, I would catch hell about it. |
| 11:19.14 | Adys | the structure xml alone is 6kb |
| 11:19.18 | Adys | wish me luck |
| 11:22.28 | Dagmar | Meh. You don't need luck. XML is easy-peasy. |
| 11:22.52 | Adys | it takes about 40 seconds to parse a 12 mb itemcache |
| 11:22.59 | Adys | so yea |
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| 11:35.34 | Adys | oh god |
| 11:35.43 | Adys | was wondering wtf that bug was |
| 11:36.13 | amro | Adys: what are you writing your parsers in? |
| 11:36.18 | Adys | python |
| 11:38.54 | Dagmar | *headddesk* |
| 11:41.08 | laurly | ok this is getting booring |
| 11:41.30 | Dagmar | He sez python, I say use perl. HOLY WAR! |
| 11:41.33 | Dagmar | It's ON baby! |
| 11:44.14 | Adys | i never really understood the advantages of perl over python but ok |
| 11:44.40 | Dagmar | Mainly you don't have to give a crap about data types, and more flexible syntax. |
| 11:44.55 | Adys | all that makes you a worse programmer, aye |
| 11:44.58 | Dagmar | ...and XML::Simple is disgustingly easy to use |
| 11:45.09 | Dagmar | dude, I've been at programming for more years than you'd believe |
| 11:45.11 | Adys | import xml.dom.minidom |
| 11:45.17 | Adys | just as good :/ |
| 11:45.24 | Adys | well for most stuff anyway |
| 11:46.04 | Adys | and i dont care if you've been programming for more years than i believe, if you think not giving a crap about datatypes is path to better programmation you just suck :P |
| 11:46.18 | Dagmar | Programming languages don't "make" you any kind of programmer. |
| 11:46.41 | Dagmar | Man I *started* with a TI-99/4a |
| 11:46.55 | Adys | so? |
| 11:47.09 | amro | wait, you have to care about datatypes in python? |
| 11:47.11 | amro | since when? |
| 11:47.22 | Adys | er always |
| 11:47.27 | amro | how so? |
| 11:47.28 | Dagmar | BASIC, then Extended BASIC, then a C=64 with it's basic, some MBASIC (CP/M) on the side, 6502 ASM, Fortran 77, Pascal, COBOL (as a lark) and that was before I was old enough to drink |
| 11:47.40 | Adys | dude no one cares |
| 11:47.52 | Adys | no offense, Im just saying you suck |
| 11:47.58 | Dagmar | If you don't care then why are you trying to argue |
| 11:48.14 | Dagmar | No, I just know it's a waste of time to muck about with details that do not matter to program operation or output. |
| 11:48.20 | Adys | Yeah Im arguing that caring about data type is a good habbit and you go on telling me about your epeen |
| 11:49.08 | amro | Adys: you mean, less implicit casts? |
| 11:49.08 | Dagmar | Particularly since XML is practically ascii on the output side, data types are pretty useless for half the task |
| 11:49.08 | Adys | amro: ints cant be handled as strings and vice versa, unless he meant sth else |
| 11:49.35 | amro | meh, that's a good thing |
| 11:49.44 | amro | and you can easily do int("2312") |
| 11:49.58 | Dagmar | I prefer to use a parser that's smart enough to figure out how I want something treated on the fly, and wise enough to let me shoot myself in the face if I am a _bad_ programmer, which I'm not. |
| 11:50.26 | Adys | amro, thats the whole point pretty much |
| 11:50.59 | Dagmar | As to the "no one cares" bit, nothing makes you stingy about pointers and data formats like having only 32K of RAM and a 252 opcode instruction set. |
| 11:51.16 | amro | Dagmar: python is pretty smart in that aspect. it can guess what types your variables are. it just doesn't mix them up |
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| 11:54.16 | Adys | Dagmar: By saying no one cares, I meant that if you think this chan is the place where you can tell everyone how ever so great and intelligent and good and amazing of a programmer you are, because you know ever so many and old, unused languages, you're in the total wrong |
| 11:54.27 | Dagmar | amro: Yeah, but I still think the error output of python is unnecessarily arcane. |
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| 11:54.44 | Dagmar | Adys: I think you completely misconstrue what I was saying |
| 11:55.18 | Dagmar | I have *craptons* of coding experience. Far more than would normally be needed to stop having a language deform how I code |
| 11:55.41 | Adys | Does that make me want to change my opinion? |
| 11:55.54 | Dagmar | I think perhaps you're still asking the wrong question... |
| 11:56.01 | Dagmar | The right question would be whether or not I care for your opinion. |
| 11:56.13 | amro | Adys: lol |
| 11:56.24 | Adys | It only enforces what I think about you, you're a bragger and that doesn't in my mind fall in the "good programmer qualities" category |
| 11:56.24 | Dagmar | Hell, I just spent the last four hours coding in C, Perl, and Bash script |
| 11:56.36 | laurly | lost her mind and decides that cleaning the house is better then doingnpcs |
| 11:56.41 | Dagmar | You have a problem with your listening skills as well. |
| 11:57.05 | Dagmar | You called my experience into question. I blew your supposition into the next lifetime. |
| 11:57.10 | amro | Dagmar: that's beside the point |
| 11:57.16 | Dagmar | That's not "bragging". That's "setting you straight" |
| 11:57.19 | amro | besides, what you say about your experience doesn't really matter |
| 11:57.24 | Adys | No, I havent called your experience, I dont give a crap about your experience |
| 11:57.35 | Adys | I told you you sucked, plain and straight |
| 11:57.49 | Dagmar | Oh, then you were just flat out name-calling? |
| 11:57.59 | amro | that's not name-calling |
| 11:58.49 | Adys | Im just gonna put it simpler: you quit the arrogant-bragging comportment or you're out of here |
| 11:58.56 | Adys | or you can leave by yourself |
| 11:59.00 | Dagmar | I have a better solution. |
| 11:59.03 | amro | Adys: on dit "behaviour" =) |
| 11:59.04 | Dagmar | You can fuck off, and I'll leave. |
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| 11:59.12 | Adys | bb |
| 11:59.32 | Adys | amro: On dit beaucoup de choses :P |
| 12:00.12 | amro | I wonder what he would have said if you insulted his text editor. |
| 12:00.29 | Adys | probably retorked by insulting my processor |
| 12:01.04 | amro | 12:59 <Dagmar> I will absolutely NOT tolerate that sort of totalitarian bullshit. |
| 12:01.15 | amro | 13:00 <Dagmar> Leave it to a python geek to turn a joke into an actual holy war |
| 12:01.16 | amro | lol |
| 12:01.27 | Adys | he called me a geek <3 |
| 12:01.38 | amro | I wonder what makes him think I was on his side |
| 12:01.49 | Adys | not sure |
| 12:01.55 | Adys | anyhow back to debugging |
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| 12:40.13 | Kirkburn | Ooh, yugioh and tabularasa just got upgraded to 1.12 final |
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| 12:45.31 | Kirkburn | (They're not running the new parser though) |
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| 13:14.32 | Olison | yugioh? :o |
| 13:15.28 | Kirkburn | Olison, ayup |
| 13:15.31 | Kirkburn | Popular wiki |
| 13:15.35 | Olison | Oic |
| 13:15.46 | Kirkburn | And yay Trackmania has a huge update out :) |
| 13:18.33 | Kirkburn | A full free game, and a huge update to Trackmania United. Happy, happy, joy, joy |
| 13:22.36 | amro | "A free game in the truest sense of the word, TrackMania Nations Forever lets..." |
| 13:22.47 | amro | it's free software? oO |
| 13:36.10 | Kirkburn | yup |
| 13:36.12 | Kirkburn | Completely |
| 13:36.35 | Adys | i should never handle numbers bigger than (168 / (168 - hoursAwakeInPast168Hours)^-1 |
| 13:36.45 | Kirkburn | It serves as advertisement for Trackmania United (now with an addon also called ~Forever) |
| 13:37.10 | Kirkburn | It's also apparently got in-game ads on the billboards, but I've never noticed |
| 13:39.12 | amro | Kirkburn: I meant, free as in free and open-source |
| 13:39.32 | Kirkburn | That's a different thing, and no to open source |
| 13:40.13 | amro | oh, I thought that's what they meant by 'the truest sense of the word' |
| 13:40.27 | amro | still, this is awesome |
| 13:40.28 | amro | downloading |
| 13:40.31 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 13:41.08 | Adys | Kirkburn: WoWWiki's JS needs fixing |
| 13:42.48 | Adys | Kirkburn: Ran some tests overnight, 2 hours browsing on gmail, wikipedia, google reader, digg, picasa = no problems at all |
| 13:42.59 | Adys | 1 hour browsing wowwiki = 5 segfaults |
| 13:43.26 | Kirkburn | Give me specifics and I can trac it |
| 13:44.18 | Adys | I cant get any more specific than "The Javascript code used on WoWWiki sucks balls" sorry :/ |
| 13:44.44 | Adys | Its probably the menu or anything related to the new skin |
| 13:44.51 | Adys | since wikipedia doesnt have any problem |
| 13:44.56 | Adys | and i didnt have any problem before then |
| 13:45.50 | amro | Adys: which browser? |
| 13:45.57 | Adys | Firefox 3b5 |
| 13:46.19 | amro | I'm getting segfaults with that too |
| 13:46.20 | Kirkburn | I can't do anything with it, unfortunately |
| 13:46.30 | Kirkburn | I can voice concerns, of course |
| 13:46.39 | Adys | its pretty important kirk :P |
| 13:47.08 | Adys | Need to ask for a redesign of the menus, it's not something complicated to do |
| 13:47.32 | Adys | the fact such simple js cant get proper perfs and googlereader/gmail can is worrying :) |
| 13:47.37 | Adys | amro: OS? |
| 13:48.17 | amro | windows |
| 13:48.29 | amro | didn't happen to me on *nix |
| 13:48.44 | Adys | hmm |
| 13:48.51 | Adys | its regular? |
| 13:49.03 | Adys | Its so annoying I had to change browser here |
| 13:49.11 | amro | it's not only wowwiki though, so I suspect it's ff beta |
| 13:50.03 | Adys | Well it happens outside wowwiki too here |
| 13:50.06 | Adys | but alot less |
| 13:50.13 | Adys | as i said, two hours perfectly fine |
| 13:51.48 | Adys | ffs |
| 13:51.51 | Adys | http://www.sourcepeek.com/wiki/Spell.dbc |
| 13:51.58 | Adys | this is where the bug comes from |
| 13:52.03 | Adys | RANKS ARE NOT FUCKING STRINGS |
| 13:54.52 | Kirkburn | Btw, anyone interested in taking part in the Arena Tournament? |
| 13:56.10 | amro | if I didn't suck nowadays, I would be |
| 13:56.26 | amro | haven't played a 70 in... 70 days or more |
| 13:58.26 | Adys | 7 months and counting |
| 13:58.30 | Kirkburn | We may have three accounts for admins and freqeuent contributers to use, with the only restriction that they write about their experiences during the tourny |
| 14:01.06 | Adys | which arena tournament anyway |
| 14:01.11 | Kirkburn | US |
| 14:01.49 | Adys | No, i meant, whats that about an arena tournament :P |
| 14:02.11 | Kirkburn | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/tournament/index.xml |
| 14:02.28 | Kirkburn | Been on the WoWWiki news section since beginning of March :P |
| 14:02.33 | amro | pfft, US |
| 14:02.40 | amro | bastards banned my US account |
| 14:02.43 | Adys | you think i read gaming news |
| 14:02.53 | Kirkburn | Not restricted to US account holders, I'm sure |
| 14:04.09 | amro | rofl "Players are not allowed to copy characters to the event realm, but instead pay $20 (or, if they're Canadian, write an essay) for access" |
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| 14:04.21 | Adys | Oh yeah i remember that |
| 14:05.47 | Kirkburn | "Canadian residents may enter by submitting a 250 word typewritten essay comparing the video gaming culture in Canada to the video gaming culture in the United States on 8 ½ x 11 inch paper" |
| 14:05.54 | Kirkburn | fun |
| 14:06.10 | Kirkburn | Such is the nature of law |
| 14:06.28 | Infinite | anyone here game on Illidan? |
| 14:09.24 | Infinite | anyone here? |
| 14:10.56 | Kirkburn | I am here, but no I don't |
| 14:11.17 | Kirkburn | 75 people (in the channel) is less than the number of realms in just the US :P |
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| 14:11.40 | Adys | 76 now |
| 14:12.00 | pcj | the bots don't count |
| 14:12.12 | Adys | well yea remove ChanServ Addybot WoWLuaircBot and MrUseful |
| 14:12.35 | Adys | you'll also have to remove pcj because he doesnt count either |
| 14:12.35 | Infinite | what general mods to you all use? |
| 14:12.55 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Addybot] by ChanServ |
| 14:13.22 | Kirkburn | only real answer to that is "all sorts" |
| 14:13.36 | amro | bongos, idChat and DoubelWide |
| 14:13.38 | Kirkburn | I have far too many to count |
| 14:14.13 | Infinite | some ppl say they slow things down ... do you find that to be true? |
| 14:15.23 | Infinite | what is doublewide? i havnt heard of it |
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| 14:18.43 | InfiniteMan | whoops |
| 14:18.57 | InfiniteMan | sorry did i miss the answer? |
| 14:19.06 | amro | InfiniteMan: it makes your questlog double wide |
| 14:19.16 | amro | putting quest and description side by side |
| 14:19.24 | Adys | So |
| 14:19.30 | InfiniteMan | thats sorta kewl |
| 14:19.32 | Adys | anyone wants to put a bet on the size of spell.owdb ? |
| 14:19.44 | Adys | hint: spell.dbc is 23mb |
| 14:20.39 | amro | over 9000mb? |
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| 14:23.13 | Addybot | protip, dont open 269mb files with ff |
| 14:23.34 | amro | nice move |
| 14:23.47 | Adys | twas a misclick |
| 14:25.55 | Adys | amro: http://90.55.33.162/~adys/spellxml.png |
| 14:25.59 | Adys | :| |
| 14:27.32 | amro | so I was pretty close -) |
| 14:27.39 | Adys | yeah! |
| 14:28.49 | Adys | laurly: Feel like parsing some xml data? |
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| 14:33.34 | amro | Adys: how are you going to put it on the wiki? |
| 14:33.57 | Adys | With a very effective lube |
| 14:35.12 | Adys | more seriously amro Im thinkin of hosting it outside the wiki |
| 14:35.29 | InfiniteMan | whatcha hosting? |
| 14:35.38 | Adys | porn |
| 14:35.38 | amro | lol adys |
| 14:35.51 | InfiniteMan | kewl porn is always good |
| 14:36.12 | InfiniteMan | anyone know any good sites for warlock macros for bg's? |
| 14:36.28 | amro | you should probably check the warlock forums |
| 14:36.48 | InfiniteMan | on the official site? |
| 14:36.59 | amro | yes, forums.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 14:37.03 | InfiniteMan | i have been using several on wiki... great stuff |
| 14:37.52 | Adys | right |
| 14:37.59 | Adys | that bug took me 6 hours to fix almost |
| 14:38.10 | Adys | so im off to bed |
| 14:38.16 | Adys | night normal people and Kirkburn |
| 14:38.26 | amro | nn |
| 14:38.32 | pcj | night |
| 14:38.35 | Adys | sorry forgot about you pcj |
| 14:38.41 | InfiniteMan | night abnormal adys |
| 14:38.52 | InfiniteMan | j/k |
| 14:39.27 | amro | Tyrande is immune to PW:F |
| 14:45.14 | sacarasc | anyone know how to disband an arena team? |
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| 14:55.33 | Ose | hello Arideni, Aloysius, g0urra and amro! |
| 14:55.43 | Aloysius | hello T_T |
| 14:55.54 | amro | hi Ose |
| 14:56.55 | g0urra | ey |
| 15:16.15 | Ose | g0urra, do you think we should have homepage links on the progress template? |
| 15:16.24 | Arideni | Hello, Ose! |
| 15:17.05 | Arideni | ^_^ I'm honored to be called out, but I have to go -- can't chat right now, going shopping! rawr! |
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| 15:18.06 | Ose | hai pcj |
| 15:18.11 | pcj | hi |
| 15:23.46 | Ose | what do you think of http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Server_project/Progression_Table g0urra? |
| 15:24.16 | Ose | I used some real guilds to test |
| 15:26.01 | g0urra | you could make the font smaller |
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| 16:28.28 | Kirkburn | Odd as this sounds, Enchanted is actually an awesome film :) |
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| 17:03.32 | winkiller | rofl, armory still crashes my ff2all the time |
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| 17:26.00 | laurly | ping pcj |
| 17:26.22 | pcj | hi laurly :) |
| 17:26.51 | laurly | been testing the bot a bit today. seams stableish. try that page if you get bored and test it. |
| 17:27.07 | pcj | ok cool |
| 17:27.10 | laurly | i added a couple of things now you can supply the race and sex along with the npc id the bot will put them where it belongs. |
| 17:27.41 | laurly | watch Faction and repfaction there buggie. and theres like 1 image that doesnt work im not sure if its a wiki issue or a bot issue. thats the only things i have noticed. |
| 17:28.13 | laurly | if an npc sells an item but for tokens and not cash that doesnt work. Not sure if i can fix that yet |
| 17:28.32 | pcj | sweet |
| 17:28.43 | pcj | i'll check it out |
| 17:29.00 | laurly | play with it if you get bored i did A - c today well started on c anyway. |
| 17:29.26 | laurly | if we can get to say ... i or j with out anything major i can just kick it off to auto run. |
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| 18:18.43 | laurly | kicks tanks |
| 18:25.50 | Ose | ticks kanks |
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| 18:47.49 | kd3 | oh laurly, one question... why the massive number of line breaks between the drops/elinks section? |
| 18:48.07 | laurly | bots being a pain about speaces in the templates |
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| 18:50.09 | laurly | and if thats the only thing anyone can find wrong im more then happy :) |
| 18:50.36 | kd3 | then I'll fire off one more request: |faction=combat in the npc box. other than that, looks good to me |
| 18:50.54 | laurly | combat for what mobs? |
| 18:50.57 | kd3 | ya |
| 18:51.00 | laurly | kk |
| 18:51.17 | laurly | i was kinda wondering about that one today |
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| 18:54.34 | laurly | WTS 1 TEENAGER! |
| 18:54.38 | Dorvan | o_0 |
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| 19:13.24 | laurly | drama |
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| 19:16.21 | Ose | R win |
| 19:18.27 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:2.jpg lol afro |
| 19:20.19 | Ose | ~seen Kanaru |
| 19:20.33 | infobot | kanaru <i=Kanaru@dsl-216-227-119-207.fairpoint.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 5d 17h 53m 15s ago, saying: 'night all, gonna finish the map probably tomorrow'. |
| 19:20.33 | Ose | ... |
| 19:22.35 | laurly | lol |
| 19:24.04 | laurly | ninja posted picture on guild forums |
| 19:26.01 | Ose | linkz? |
| 19:26.30 | laurly | the dwarf iwth the afro |
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| 19:30.50 | Ose | whut? |
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| 19:49.49 | Ceder | What pve server do u guys recomed to start playing horde at? |
| 19:51.27 | Ose | Europe or US? |
| 19:51.47 | Ose | ping Ceder |
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| 19:58.45 | Ose | what happened to the sidebar? |
| 19:59.36 | Ose | pcj? |
| 19:59.44 | pcj | huh? |
| 19:59.50 | Ose | my sidebar got nerfed!' |
| 20:00.02 | pcj | ...ok? |
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| 20:02.45 | Ose | wheres kirkburn when you need him? |
| 20:03.32 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:StrangeSidebar.PNG |
| 20:09.08 | laurly | pokes ose with a stick |
| 20:09.35 | Ose | steals laurøys stick |
| 20:09.49 | Ose | d'ohs |
| 20:09.52 | laurly | oh and what are you going to do with it? |
| 20:10.47 | Ose | phix it? |
| 20:12.41 | Ose | you mean the stick? |
| 20:14.47 | Ose | phew sidebars back to normal |
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| 20:17.03 | Kirkburn | Adys, want to add pix of Bornakk to the wiki? :) http://www.worldofwar.net/n/412580/bornakk-revealed |
| 20:17.29 | Kirkburn | (or anyone) |
| 20:18.59 | Ose | kirkburn: any idea why http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:StrangeSidebar.PNG looked like that 5 mins ago? |
| 20:19.14 | Kirkburn | yup |
| 20:19.28 | Kirkburn | Our local sidebar code must have not loaded |
| 20:19.33 | Kirkburn | That's the basic sidebar |
| 20:19.44 | Kirkburn | Also, turn on font smoothing, fool |
| 20:20.51 | Ose | http://www.worldofwar.net/n/412591/athene-tries-to-stop-virgin-media athenelol |
| 20:21.03 | Ose | smooth? |
| 20:21.26 | laurly | yeah i wasnt loged in the other day at work dam wiki was ugly |
| 20:22.20 | Kirkburn | Ose, yes, smoothing |
| 20:22.28 | Ose | smooth... |
| 20:22.30 | Kirkburn | I'm on Virgin Media :( |
| 20:22.50 | Kirkburn | Stop repeating the word smooth, it's disturbing me :P |
| 20:23.09 | Kirkburn | laurly, how do you mean? |
| 20:23.36 | laurly | kinda like that side bar picture :) all funky yellow |
| 20:24.02 | Kirkburn | That's ... how it's supposed to look ... |
| 20:24.19 | Ose | smooth! |
| 20:24.42 | laurly | reminds me of a band from the 80's what was it skid row mabye... dont know im to old to remember much |
| 20:25.27 | Ose | so, how do I turn on this font smoothing? |
| 20:25.37 | Ose | preferences? |
| 20:25.48 | Kirkburn | It's an OS thing |
| 20:26.00 | Kirkburn | ClearType in Windows |
| 20:27.02 | Ose | looks for his control panel. ah, there it is! |
| 20:27.54 | kd3 | any word on whether the sidebar js is getting fixed any time soon? |
| 20:28.33 | Kirkburn | Look, people, you can't just say "is something getting fixed" when I am not presented with a tangible problem :) |
| 20:28.41 | Ose | does not find anything about font smoothing or cleartype. Could it have to do with the fact that his PC is in norwegian? |
| 20:28.49 | kd3 | it keeps crashing firefox? |
| 20:29.10 | Kirkburn | Ose, try http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cleartype/tuner/Step1.aspx |
| 20:29.15 | Kirkburn | kd3, not for me |
| 20:29.22 | Kirkburn | Not seen anyone else report it either |
| 20:29.32 | Ose | like when the sidebar jumps over to the page? |
| 20:29.46 | kd3 | adys and sky've been bitching about it too |
| 20:30.03 | Kirkburn | About errors, not crashes |
| 20:30.22 | Ose | microsoft is EVIL! |
| 20:30.27 | Kirkburn | But anyway I'll add to the list |
| 20:30.51 | Ose | i check the little box and press next, but the box gets unchecked and i'm being told to check it! |
| 20:31.27 | Ose | downloads manual thingy |
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| 20:33.48 | Ose | phails and only gets an fugly font |
| 20:33.53 | Ose | tries again |
| 20:35.13 | Ose | that's better |
| 20:35.20 | Ose | thanks Kirkburn |
| 20:35.44 | Kirkburn | np |
| 20:36.10 | Ose | btw, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoothie yum-yum! |
| 20:36.28 | Kirkburn | I see they've left off the other definition... |
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| 20:45.59 | Dorvan | O_O |
| 20:46.01 | Dorvan | Back o_0 |
| 20:46.03 | Dorvan | From retail lol |
| 20:46.26 | Dorvan | Man! I love my level 56 druid :D |
| 20:46.29 | Dorvan | He is teh smex |
| 20:47.30 | amro | what's teh smex? |
| 20:47.56 | Dorvan | Looks up :) |
| 20:49.39 | amro | I mean, what's "teh smex" |
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| 20:50.22 | Dorvan | the sex XD |
| 20:50.30 | Ose | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Teh+Smex |
| 20:50.53 | Ose | nn |
| 20:50.54 | Dorvan | :P |
| 20:51.38 | amro | Johnny Depp is a level 56 druid? |
| 20:52.26 | Dorvan | Huh? |
| 20:52.27 | Dorvan | o_0 |
| 20:53.23 | amro | bah, nevermind |
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| 20:57.32 | igormorgado | hi there |
| 20:57.58 | igormorgado | Is there any character simulator? I wish to check some items set ups. |
| 21:00.19 | ralfWORK | I'd think there would be one somewhere |
| 21:00.25 | ralfWORK | I don't know of one though |
| 21:00.31 | ralfWORK | I use pen and paper :P |
| 21:01.02 | igormorgado | I dont want destroy trees =D |
| 21:03.28 | ralfWORK | hahahaha |
| 21:03.34 | ralfWORK | then write on both sides of the paper :D |
| 21:05.54 | igormorgado | =) I will destroy them any way.. but only half of them =D |
| 21:12.17 | Dorvan | Theres model viewer |
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| 22:57.11 | amro | Adys: ping |
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