IRC log for #wowwiki on 20080408

00:01.38*** join/#wowwiki Arideni (i=Miranda@dialup-4.129.65.78.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net)
00:07.54InnocentlySassyeh, i just had some fun in the block log
00:08.37InnocentlySassywho's angela?  =D
00:09.45pcjkirkburn are you done sleeping yet
00:10.19pcjugh anyone have any idea how to do something like http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Recentchanges?useskin=monaco and get the wowwiki custom theme
00:10.55pcjalso someone needs to fix the RC header
00:11.09pcjthe links go "Hide minor edits | Show bots | - | - | Hide patrolled edits | Hide my edits | Show enhanced recent changes"
00:11.17pcjshould get rid of the two sections with just hyphens
00:12.11pcji just love how kirkburn throws the skin on us and avoids us for the rest of the next day tho
00:12.12InnocentlySassyTo see the new WoWWiki theme skin, make sure "see custom skins" is ticked in your preferences (you should not need to select a skin, but if you have ever made changes you will probably need to select Monaco Sapphire).?
00:12.26pcjuhh innocentlysassy i know that
00:12.35Kirkburnpcj, maybe, just maybe I like to sleep once in a while?
00:12.44pcjhey he's awake lol
00:12.45InnocentlySassywell hell, i haven't bothered to try and figure out skins
00:12.49InnocentlySassyand hell, kirk, it's 2 pm.  ;)
00:12.55InnocentlySassysleep later!
00:12.57pcjwell you didn't have to stay awake all night to do it
00:13.01Kirkburn1 am actually
00:13.10KirkburnYes, actually, I did
00:13.25pcjlol ok
00:13.25AdysInnocentlySassy: Silly US and their timezones.
00:13.30InnocentlySassy;)
00:13.48KirkburnI have been monitoring the watchlist when I'm around, and there hasn't been issues, so why do you need me?
00:14.01pcjhave any idea how to do something like http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Recentchanges?useskin=monaco and get the wowwiki custom theme?
00:14.15Adysi have issues Kirkburn ff is segfaulting and i cant figure out why
00:14.19pcjalso why is the custom skin a check and not a radio if it overrides
00:14.57Adysoh yeah Kirkburn on more serious stuff check fandy's talk page
00:15.04Adysabout watchout's problem
00:15.04KirkburnForm is: http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Recentchanges?useskin=monaco&usetheme=something
00:15.16pcjwhat is usetheme for wowwiki custom then kirkburn
00:15.19pcjbecause it isn't wowwiki
00:15.25Kirkburncustom, maybe
00:15.31KirkburnI've never tried it
00:16.02pcjyeah it's custom, ty
00:16.45KirkburnThe hyphens in the list are because I have already hidden the options
00:16.58InnocentlySassydoes wowwiki ever have a maintence time?
00:16.59KirkburnI could turn them into spaces, but they would still show as | | |
00:17.06KirkburnInnocentlySassy, nope
00:17.09pcjCan't get rid of them altogether? that sucks
00:17.09InnocentlySassyblah
00:17.10Sky2042InnocentlySassy: "Who's angela?" Angela's one of the Wikia staff.
00:17.28InnocentlySassyi was having issues with it at about midnight last night
00:17.30Adysyes InnocentlySassy everytime someone updates {{tooltip}}
00:17.31Kirkburnpcj, they were the options to hide/show IPs and registered users ... both useless :P
00:17.36Adysoh wait, that was five months ago
00:17.36Adysnvm
00:17.52pcjWell, idc about the options themselves, just kind of silly that it still has that
00:18.01pcjNot your fault really
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00:18.42Sky2042Adys: try a year ago.
00:18.46Sky2042give or take a month
00:18.54Adysa year ago that was every template on the site
00:18.58KirkburnAdys, more serious stuff? It's on SR and on trac
00:19.01InnocentlySassyooh, nother q.  what's the um... (+/- #) for on recent changes pages?
00:19.09Adysoh k
00:19.16pcjamount of byte change
00:19.19InnocentlySassyah
00:19.20InnocentlySassythankie
00:19.20Sky2042oh, btw, if no-one else noticed, StringFunctions were implemented... :o
00:19.25pcjoooold
00:19.25Sky2042hmm
00:19.59InnocentlySassydishes.  =(
00:20.09pcjdishwasher? :)
00:20.19InnocentlySassyyar, that'd be me
00:20.22InnocentlySassyit's like the joke...
00:20.23pcjeww
00:20.28AdysZING
00:20.29InnocentlySassywhy does a bride wear white on her wedding day?
00:21.00*** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowuidev | CVN channel is live at #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | IT LIVES! | <+pcj> dishwasher? :) <InnocentlySassy> yar, that'd be me
00:21.00pcji don't know
00:21.05InnocentlySassythe dishwasher would match the stove and the fridge
00:21.08InnocentlySassy*should
00:21.10Krolmorthey wear white to say that they're pure
00:21.11pcjlol
00:21.39Krolmorwhich is messed up because everyone knows there are no virgin women left in the world, so -.-
00:21.44Adysok wow rofl
00:22.32Adysi was about to google something around "why are weddings in white" because google is just so good at giving hilarious answers
00:22.39Adysi couldnt even get past the searchbox
00:23.07Adys"why are yawns contagious" "why are there so many songs about rainbows"
00:23.09Krolmorrofl
00:23.16Adys"why are flamingos pink" "why are black people black"
00:23.49AdysI think Im gonna build a search suggest parser
00:24.09pcjwtf "why are there so many songs about rainbows"?
00:24.15Adysmy thoughts
00:24.55KirkburnSo, no other issues with the new skin have come up? :)
00:25.01Adysads
00:25.11Krolmoryawns contagious, lol
00:25.48KirkburnAdys, particular problems?
00:25.55pcjads suck
00:25.58Adysyehforgames still shows up
00:26.01Adysand that
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00:26.52KirkburnSince it's a brand new placement, I would expect it to improve
00:27.26KirkburnAnd if you're seeing banned ads, for christ's sake /tell me what they are and who they're coming from/. I can't do anything otherwise.
00:27.53pcjwell the wikia ads are pretty bad
00:27.56KirkburnVia email, preferably
00:28.00pcjoh ok
00:28.07Adys"why do we yawn" "why do men cheat" "why did i get married" "why did the chicken cross the road" "why did you resign"
00:28.15AdysOk, Im writing this parser NOW
00:28.20pcjlol why did i get married
00:28.20Kirkburnpcj, I meant email the bad links
00:28.26pcjwho googles these things
00:28.27KirkburnTell me the other stuff here by all means :P
00:29.25pcjcan you link me to sitescout again please kirkburn
00:29.45Kirkburnhttp://gamergear.wikia.com/wiki/Special:SiteScout
00:29.49pcjty
00:30.01pcjis the design of it complete?
00:30.19Adyspcj: Theres a giant screen in most google buildings showing search queries as they are sent to google in real time
00:30.26pcjlol awesome
00:30.35Adysshit like that is always fun to watch
00:30.39Sky2042is there css to make images (not bg-images) not show up? :o
00:30.46pcjyeah
00:30.50Adysimg { display: none }
00:30.54Sky2042bah
00:31.00Sky2042lol
00:31.17pcjyou were hoping it was multi-line and involved the -moz- prefix weren't you
00:31.20Adys* { background-image: none }
00:31.26Adyslol pcj
00:31.57Sky2042-moz is sexay, imo
00:32.34Adys-moz is used for testing reasons before official css goes live
00:33.15Adyswhich annoys the shit out of me because they still havent implemented round corners ffs its not like its a big draft
00:33.23pcjbasically because fx developers want to support css3 but make everyone type 5 extra letters
00:33.24Sky2042lol
00:33.45Sky2042or, in other words, that they want to have css3 functionality before it's released.
00:33.47Adysbrowser devs have to do all the work they just have to fucking WRITE THE DRAFT
00:33.48Sky2042-_-
00:33.55Adysno..
00:34.04Adyswebkit uses the -webkit- prefix
00:34.16pcj...
00:34.39Adysand i think opera uses -presto or something like that, its just to have it tested so they have it ready when css3 is released
00:34.43Adysthink of it as a beta
00:35.03Sky2042so, to use a specific id with an elemnt, it's element#id, isn't it?
00:35.13Sky2042or other way around?
00:35.58Adysan el with the id foo will be el#foo, an id foo inside an el will be el #foo
00:36.10Adyswhere el equals an element accepting children
00:36.27Adysif you want an id in general #foo is enough
00:37.17pcjdamnit
00:37.17Sky2042img#page_controls { display: none; } isn't doing what i want it to... what's wrong with it? :(
00:37.33pcjchanges all his code using id="foo" since now sky will be using it
00:37.38Adysdepends what you want it to do
00:37.44Adysand what it does.
00:37.51Sky2042i want to make the images go away in the edit bar :/
00:37.55Sky2042that's the id.
00:38.00Sky2042#page_controls.
00:38.10pcj#page_controls img {display:none; }
00:38.10Adysimg#page_controls will be an image with the id page_controls
00:38.18Adys^
00:38.20Sky2042....lol
00:38.38Sky2042i tried pcj's as well. let me try again. :/
00:38.49Adysimg #page_controls { )
00:38.51Adys}}
00:39.11Sky2042also no go
00:39.18Sky2042;_;
00:39.20Adysthen you probably suck
00:39.28Sky2042oh yes, it's my fault...
00:39.31pcjpebkac error sounds like
00:39.47Adysi cant stop laughing every time
00:40.04Adyswtf google
00:40.21Adys"pebkac t-shirt"
00:40.29AdysIm buying you that pc
00:40.31Adyspcj
00:40.39pcjok
00:40.56Adyshttp://www.zazzle.com/cheeseonmytees/product/235921931939648084
00:41.00Adysit looks so awesome too
00:41.31Adyshttp://crazytees.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=81_90&products_id=477&products_attribute_id=139 that one is for me
00:42.05Sky2042ok, Kirkburn, i'm complaining to you. :]
00:42.24Sky2042i can't make the images disappear on the edit bar using proper css :(
00:42.53pcjuse JS then
00:42.55Adysare you sure they belong to that element
00:43.01Adysshut up pcj js sucks
00:43.05Sky2042presumably... :o
00:43.12pcjwell the only alternative is...vbs
00:43.29AdysAssembly-web bitch
00:43.35Sky2042<ul id="page_controls">
00:43.38Adysmod-assembly
00:43.41Adysdo install plz
00:43.54Sky2042element is ul, obviously...
00:43.59Adysrly
00:44.03Adyshow about pastebin
00:44.34Kirkburneh?
00:44.36pcjul#page_controls img {display:none;} ?
00:44.41KirkburnThe code is: <li id="control_edit" class=""><div>&nbsp;</div><a id="ca-edit" href="/index.php?title=Portal:Main&amp;action=edit"  title="You can edit this page. Please use the preview button before saving. [e]" accesskey="e">Edit</a></li>
00:45.03KirkburnSurely you want to alter either #control_edit or #ca_edit
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00:45.07pcjthere aren't any img tags in there...
00:45.12pcjthat wouldn't work sky
00:45.13pcjnub
00:45.14KirkburnSo?
00:45.17Adysi.. dont see any either
00:45.18Sky2042true, but where are the images coming from then? :/
00:45.23KirkburnBackground
00:45.24pcjcss
00:45.31AdysGodsends
00:45.32KirkburnSame way that external links get their icon
00:45.34pcjfkking nub
00:45.48Sky2042Kirkburn: not bg. i already have the evil bg-images blocked.
00:45.50pcj<Sky2042> is there css to make images (not bg-images) not show up? :o
00:45.53pcjloser
00:45.53KirkburnCheck the allinone css and search for #control_edit
00:45.59AdysSky2042
00:46.04AdysWHICH images do you want removed
00:46.10Sky2042all of them.
00:46.13Sky2042http://pastebin.com/m4cee2ca3
00:46.17Adyswhere....
00:46.36KirkburnYeah, you'll have to hide it on each id
00:46.37Adysjust tell me where on the page
00:46.50KirkburnAdys, the edit/watch/comment etc links
00:46.53Sky2042^
00:46.56KirkburnHe wants to get rid of their icons
00:46.59Adysah k
00:47.31Sky2042Kirkburn: are they supposed to have classes, btw?
00:47.33Sky2042:o
00:47.38KirkburnThey have ids
00:47.41Adys#page_controls * { background-image: none }
00:47.59Sky2042because, if not, they have extra coding that can be dumped.
00:48.07Adysits js sky
00:48.13KirkburnAdys, remind me what that does? Anything under #page_controls gets no bg?
00:48.15Adys#page_controls li { background-image: none }
00:48.16Sky2042keke that's what  thought.
00:48.16Adyseven cleaner
00:48.18Adysaye kirk
00:48.42KirkburnWhat's js?
00:48.50Sky2042javascript
00:48.51Adysclass="" garbage
00:48.55Sky2042^
00:48.59Sky2042that too.
00:49.16KirkburnOh, I see
00:49.36Sky2042fail, adys.
00:49.38Sky2042i
00:49.45Adysyou fail, try it the other way then
00:49.46Sky2042i'm a thinkin it's js also :/
00:49.49Adysli #page_controls
00:49.51KirkburnProbably have to do it individually then
00:49.52pcjwhat's js
00:49.55Adysjavascript
00:50.00Sky2042~js
00:50.06Sky2042kicks infobot.
00:50.09Adys~javascript
00:50.10infobotmethinks javascript is thing REAL PROGRAMMERS use when designing websites. <blink></blink> is deprecated remember!
00:50.23Adysoh man
00:50.25Adysi wrote that one
00:50.28Adysmonths ago..
00:50.35Sky2042infobot, js is thing REAL PROGRAMMERS use when designing websites. <blink></blink> is deprecated remember!
00:50.35infobotokay, Sky2042
00:51.23Sky2042Adys: also fail-sauce!
00:51.59Kirkburnhuh, I can't work out what's giving them the icons
00:52.17Sky2042also thinkning that it is js now :/
00:52.25Adysinfobot no js is the newspaper Journal Sentinel, the IATA code for Air Koryo, the Abbreviation of J Sainsbury pic, the Dutch Jonge Socialisten in de PvdA, the korean company Jae Sang. Jordin Sparks has something to do with all that
00:52.26infobotAdys: okay
00:52.27Kirkburn#control_edit gives weird code and #ca-edit doesn't even exist
00:52.47Sky2042Adys: lol
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00:52.49KirkburnIt can't be js, cause the images appear with js turned off (afaik)
00:53.05pcjok let me look
00:53.26KirkburnYup, fine without js
00:53.30Sky2042lol
00:53.31Adysthe div
00:53.37Adys#page_controls div {allinone.css (line 4)
00:53.37Adysbackground-image:url(../images/sprite.png);
00:53.46Adysjust do what i said it works
00:53.54Adys#page_controls * { background-image: none }
00:54.59Sky2042not werking...
00:55.06Adys* #page_controls?
00:55.20pcjyou are cache refreshing right sky
00:55.22Adysone of them should work, if it doesnt try with div but you probably suck somewhere else
00:55.28Adyslmao pcj
00:55.31Sky2042pcj: aye.
00:55.38pcjis your computer turned on?
00:55.42Sky2042yup.
00:55.45Sky2042i can confirm that also.
00:55.47Adysare you sure its plugged in?
00:56.03PhotoJimdid you jiggle the cable?
00:56.05Sky2042doesn't need to be, why?
00:56.09PhotoJim(old Canadian joke)
00:56.22Sky2042(was responding o adys and pcj)
00:56.22*** mode/#wowwiki [+o kd3] by ChanServ
00:56.33Adyshttp://picasaweb.google.co.uk/adys.wh/CaptionMe/photo#5136761904284338050
00:56.57AdysOoh, I have new CaptionMe images to upload
00:58.15Sky2042your css fails adys ;_;
00:58.25Adysits not mine, so your css fails
00:58.34Sky2042it works in your preview?
00:58.36Sky2042:/
00:58.45Adyswhat preview?
00:58.55Sky2042gah.
00:59.01Sky2042what do you mean, works in yours?
00:59.01Adysim not previewing anything Im busy uploading useless shit
00:59.52Sky2042then htf do you know it works? :/
00:59.57Sky2042cause it obviously aint working
01:00.09pcjlolol #cockpit1_close {
01:00.09pcjbackground:transparent url(../images/widget_sprite.png) repeat scroll 0%;
01:00.31Adysmy cockpit1_close is bigger than yours
01:00.35Adysand sky this is basic css..
01:00.56Sky2042i knnnnnooooooooooooooooooooow.
01:00.57Kirkburnooooh, Adys ... so it's a single image that's using different areas, of course
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01:01.08Adysyea alot of websites do that
01:01.21Sky2042it's. not. worrrrrrrrrkinggggggggg. did you miss that part?
01:01.24KirkburnYeah, I already saw it was done in the widgets, d'oh
01:01.32Adysno i didnt and i told you your code sucks
01:01.33Sky2042>_<
01:01.41AdysKirkburn:  its the "perfect solution"™ to pipelining they all say
01:01.46Adysi think its awful but hey
01:01.53pcjsky try #cockpit1_close { background-image:none; }
01:01.55KirkburnWell, one image to load instead of many
01:01.57Sky2042my code doesn't suck. the full content of my code is [[User:Sky2042/monaco.css]]. now, if it sucks, it's not my fault.
01:02.29AdysKirkburn:  svg bitch :P
01:02.39Kirkburno_O
01:02.40Sky2042pcj: no. but thank you. >_<
01:02.54Sky2042it failed.
01:02.55Adyshey Sky2042
01:03.02Adystry * { background-image: none }
01:03.07pcjmmm #widget_cockpit_list li h1 div.add {
01:03.07pcjbackground-image:url(../images/sprite.png);
01:03.21pcj#widget_cockpit_list li h1 div.add { background-image:none; }
01:03.58AdysKirkburn: It does reduce the amount of headers sent but technically it increases the size of the image downloaded if it's not perfect
01:03.59Sky2042nope :/
01:04.03pcjjust addblock sprite.png
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01:04.12AdysSky2042:  that means your code fucking fails
01:04.13Sky2042;_;
01:04.22Adysbecause * { background-image: none } works
01:04.24Sky2042that means MW's code fucking fails, kkthx.
01:04.24Kirkburndecides to vacate the area
01:04.30Adysso learn to refresh your cache
01:04.35Kirkburn(nothing to do with MW)
01:04.46pcjyeah its seriously monaco
01:04.50pcjgg sky
01:05.06pcjblame monaco and wikia for terrible coding practices
01:05.15AdysKirkburn: also if you decide to give users the ability to modify the css and js they can modify the size of divs, hiders, etc
01:05.43Adysuntil css has map-show i dont like those :P
01:05.50KirkburnSo #page_controls div{background-image:none; } doesn't work?
01:05.56Adysit should
01:06.11Sky2042it doesn't.
01:06.11pcji'm gonna try it just to prove him wrong
01:06.23Kirkburnit does
01:06.26Kirkburnlol
01:06.34Adyslearn to cache sky
01:06.43KirkburnNote that won't fix spacing though
01:06.55KirkburnIt'll just replace the images with blank space
01:07.09Adysyea that can be easily fixed
01:07.10Adyssec
01:07.11Sky2042Adys: i know how to, kthx.
01:07.17Adysno you dont
01:07.19Sky2042(on caching)
01:07.26Sky2042yeah, I do.
01:08.01Sky2042well, wtf.
01:08.02pcjwell it totally works sky so its a pebkac error either way
01:08.05KirkburnTo fix spacing you'll need #page_controls li{ padding-left:0px; }
01:08.20Kirkburn0px may be too low, but 18 is what it's currently at
01:08.22Sky2042i had to specify the div. wtf.........
01:08.30Adysno you didnt
01:08.44Adysyou had to perfectly copypaste the code that works for kirk, pcj, probably me too
01:08.47KirkburnI really don't understand that, it works fine as basic code for the rest of us
01:08.50Adysand refresh the cache
01:08.56KirkburnSky2042, browser?
01:08.59Sky2042Adys: I'm telling you, it didn't work any other way except with the div there.
01:09.02Sky2042FF .13
01:09.06Adyswhich you utterly failed to successfully complete the second step
01:09.09KirkburnReally weird
01:09.12pcjwell you're about 2 versions behind then sky
01:09.23pcjshould be 2.0.0.13
01:09.28Sky2042-_-
01:09.32Sky2042beats pcj over the head.
01:09.38KirkburnPerhaps some interference from the ISP or other software
01:09.46Adysno kirk he just sucks
01:09.50Sky2042Adys: you want to see the page history, or are you so certain you're so right?
01:09.57Sky2042and try each and every fucking one?
01:10.11Adysgimme the page history where it didnt work ill tell you if it does
01:10.59KirkburnPerhaps we should just be happy it works!
01:11.11KirkburnAaand, go do more useful pursuits :P
01:11.27Adysi have far more fun making fun of sky's unability to clear cache, and probably copypaste aswell
01:11.44Sky2042Adys: Adys: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Sky2042/monaco.css&diff=cur&oldid=1300176 feel freehttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Sky2042/monaco.css&oldid=1300176
01:11.47Sky2042bah
01:11.58Sky2042copy paste is prolly right -_-
01:12.03Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Sky2042/monaco.css&oldid=1300176
01:12.45Adysthat works, kty
01:12.50Sky2042man, wtf.
01:14.52pcjbut yeah monaco's menus are a resource hog
01:15.04Sky2042^
01:15.04AdysNo manual entry for wtf
01:15.16Adyslate i know, wasnt watching
01:15.56Sky2042Kirkburn: 0px is fine.
01:16.03Kirkburnyay
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01:25.52AdysOk lol thats just awful http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7061/1206227922308dk2.jpg
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01:37.00AdysOff to bed, night. SEE YOU CORGAN YOU SUCKER.
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02:00.57KirkburnAre people liking the new wider main page? :P
02:01.56pcjno
02:02.37Sky2042wider main page?
02:02.40Sky2042is confused.
02:03.10Sky2042btw, what's the mediawiki message which makes [[Portal:Main]] not display? :/
02:03.30kirbymy 1680x1050 loves it
02:03.57kirbySky2042: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Title http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit
02:04.11Sky2042kirby: it's not a template, iirc.
02:04.21kirbywell, this method works
02:04.53kirbylemme see here
02:06.01kirbynope, doesn't work. my method is faster than waiting on wikia to fix it :P
02:06.07kd3the only special word I know of that affects titles is DISPLAYTITLE, where I stole {{Lowercase}} from wp
02:06.33kirbykd3: just tried that
02:06.57Sky2042hrm
02:07.07Sky2042no, it's a page in the mediawiki namespace
02:07.25kd3[[Special:Allmessages]]
02:07.41Sky2042Tekkub: edit [[User:Tekkub/monaco-sidebar]] (caps?) and or [[User:Tekkub/monaco-toolbox]]
02:08.03Tekkubthat's not what I'm talking about
02:08.04Sky2042we can't change the edit links, unfortunately. automatically provided by monaco skin :/
02:08.11Sky2042(if that's what you were)
02:08.26Tekkub"Wiki page in widget"
02:08.41Tekkubalthough a bookwark widget would certainly solve it for me
02:08.58Tekkubor something of the like in the main menu widget there
02:09.18Sky2042"Wiki page in widget"?
02:09.33Tekkubgo play with the widgets a bit
02:09.41Sky2042oh.
02:09.43Sky2042that.
02:09.46KirkburnSky2042, body.page-Portal_Main h1.firstHeading { display:none; }
02:09.47Sky2042yeah :/
02:09.48Tekkubyea.
02:09.49Tekkubthat.
02:09.56Sky2042blame monaco
02:09.58Sky2042:P
02:10.04Sky2042Kirkburn: implement imo.
02:10.09TekkubKirk, the top bar think, fucking ugly
02:10.22Tekkubbig waste of space!
02:10.29Tekkublet users hide it
02:10.36KirkburnSky2042, can't really, could be too confusing with different pages having the same heading
02:10.38Tekkuboh wait, you won't, it has ads in it
02:10.49Sky2042Kirkburn: what do you mean?
02:11.04Sky2042coughcsstekkubcoughnotsupposedtodothatthoughcough
02:11.05TekkubHey kirky, do we have users styles too with this?
02:11.17Tekkubso I don't have to use stylish to force my style changes in
02:11.20Kirkburn*sigh* http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Upgrade_early_2008
02:11.25KirkburnSky2042, hmm, well ...
02:11.36Sky2042yes, user styles at [[User:Tekkub/monaco.css]] of course!
02:11.43KirkburnI guess it *could* work for Portal:Main alone
02:11.51Sky2042that's just what i was thinking
02:11.58Sky2042not the others. heh
02:12.09KirkburnHowever, it would mean removing the line at the top right
02:12.13Tekkubah good, you should link people to that as well in the skin info
02:12.36KirkburnI do, indirectly
02:12.44TekkubKirky: bookmark widget pweeze?
02:13.01Tekkubor move the page in widget into the user namespace
02:13.08KirkburnUnder the "User customization" part, surprisingly :P
02:13.17KirkburnTekkub, how do you mean?
02:13.25Tekkubhaving people editing in Mediawiki: sounds like a very bad idea
02:13.50Tekkub"wiki page in widget" forces the user to edit Mediawiki:<my page name>
02:13.50KirkburnAh, I see what you mean
02:13.51Sky2042Tekkub: they can't edit there. only admins can :o
02:14.00Sky2042which makes the link useless.
02:14.04KirkburnI'm pretty sure it's in the pipeline, but I'm remember it
02:14.06InnocentlySassy(tek... was your name derived from a backwards bucket?)
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02:14.25InnocentlySassy*rotf*
02:14.26Sky2042lol
02:14.35Sky2042you're too innocent
02:14.36Sky2042;o
02:14.43InnocentlySassyi do too many word games
02:15.22TekkubKirk, only other request though minor, allow the user to collapse the top spanbar thing on all pages but main page... it's a huge waste of space
02:15.36Sky2042top spanbar?
02:15.45Tekkubwhere the ads show to stupid users
02:15.58Tekkuband the logo
02:15.59Sky2042can't by wikia policy
02:16.00KirkburnCan't
02:16.11Tekkubuser css it is then
02:16.22KirkburnThe main page is not where most users enter the wiki
02:16.33Tekkubseriously, if that thing was half as tall I wouldn't care
02:16.41Tekkubbut it's like over an inch of waste
02:17.33KirkburnWaste is very much a relative concept here
02:17.46KirkburnIn any case, I could probably reduce the space a bit
02:17.51Tekkubso if I edit Monaco-sidebar it replace everything, or add to it?
02:17.57KirkburnReplace
02:18.05Sky2042^
02:18.13Tekkubokey, in that case... how about add one more menu, Bookmarks
02:18.24Tekkubpulls from User:blah/Bookmarks :)
02:18.26Sky2042watchlist?....
02:18.38TekkubI watch every page I edit sky
02:18.55Tekkubwatchlist and bookmarks are two totally different things
02:18.56KirkburnHmm, I'll bring it up, see if anyone's had this idea before
02:18.58Sky2042:x
02:19.08Sky2042not for me tekkub, but oh well.
02:19.15Tekkubbookmarks == want fast access... watchlist == want to know when changed
02:19.33Sky2042leaves for Taekwon-Do
02:19.44Tekkubtaekwon-do?
02:19.46TekkubNERD!
02:19.50Sky2042_afk....
02:19.51Sky2042_afkone to talk
02:22.21Kirkburntwo to beat senseless
02:22.46kd3oh, heh... something that got broken with the change...
02:22.56kd3special:statistics is listing <500m views
02:23.20Kirkburnweird
02:24.20Tekkubhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Tekkub/monaco.css
02:24.22Tekkub<PROTECTED>
02:24.40Kirkburnkd3, updated the note next to it
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02:34.14KirkburnAny other ideas about the bookmark widget? I'm submitting it as an idea
02:34.37KirkburnI've written: list like MW:Sidebar, pulled into widget
02:34.52Kirkburn(well, I've written more than that obviously)
02:35.00KirkburnAny other interesting twists on the concept?
02:37.50Kirkburnpokes Tekkub
02:38.18Tekkubuh
02:38.31Tekkubjust that it'd be pulled into the sidebar as another menu really
02:38.36Tekkubsame format and everything
02:38.59Tekkubmaybe a quick link that adds the current page in as a bookmark
02:41.30KirkburnThat would probably have to come under further development
02:41.37KirkburnOkay, gonna submit these ideas :)
02:42.19Tekkubyea, fixing namespace on "wiki page in widget" is like super important, the rest is "want to"
02:43.24Tekkuboh, cockburn, you get ClearFont2 fixed?
02:43.30Tekkubso I can steal your fix...
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02:43.52KirkburnNo, things that earn me money take my time :P
02:44.05Tekkubyea, same here, that's why I wanted to steal yours
02:44.14KirkburnTekkub, I did try http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Widgetwikipage ... but it doesn't work :(
02:44.38Tekkubno I mabe my own page, but it stays in MediaWiki namespace
02:44.44Tekkuband it really should go in user
02:44.55KirkburnLook at the code
02:44.59Tekkubbecause it's a user customization
02:45.08KirkburnI tried a transclusion, but it rejects it
02:45.45Tekkubhttp://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Tekkubsidebar
02:46.28KirkburnI have no idea what that achieves
02:46.50Tekkubyou even TRY using the widget?
02:47.10KirkburnYeah, er, nvm :P
02:47.15Tekkubgot it now?
02:48.54KirkburnSure have :P
02:50.38KirkburnAnyway, submitted and hopefully easy to change :)
02:50.55Tekkubda
02:54.52KirkburnIs it me, or is the title on this a bit misleading? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7335841.stm
02:56.23pcjwell you can be a bit misleading, yeah
02:59.23KirkburnWell, saying they "left" rather sounds more free will than the first para says
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03:03.35HojimachongKirkburn, I love the new skin
03:04.02KirkburnYay!
03:04.53Hojimachongespecially preserving the color scheme
03:06.33KirkburnI'm so pleased it came out so similar
03:07.55KirkburnTook a fair bit of work >_<
03:08.36Hojimachonghow late were you up last night?
03:10.14KirkburnLate.
03:10.43KirkburnTo the point of being up early.
03:12.04Hojimachongeeep
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03:15.34Hojimachonghow do you find time to play WoW with wowwiki being so needy?
03:18.22HojimachongI'm off to configure my new addons... c'yall later
03:29.23Kirkburn(even if he's not here ... er, I don't find time to play WoW)
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04:10.04pcjhttp://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/08/business/media/08cbs.html?ei=5065&en=a8fa4cf758327512&ex=1208232000&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print
04:10.04pcjpwnt
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04:18.50pcjslowwiki?
04:19.22Sky2042_afknope
04:19.39pcjlol just as i asked that it finally loaded
04:21.29Sky2042it happens
04:22.28Sky2042ok, i agree with you :(
04:22.35Sky2042slowwiki
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04:40.32Mike-N-GoWho can I talk to about my wiki account? I misspelled my email as I signed up for an account.
04:40.47Sky2042o_o
04:41.11Mike-N-GoYah, I did 'c.om' insted of '.com'
04:41.20Sky2042lol...
04:41.29Sky2042is the account really valuable to you? :x
04:41.38Sky2042Kirkburn: poke poke.
04:41.52Mike-N-GoI just made it..
04:42.25Mike-N-GoSky2042: And I would like to post on the wiki..
04:59.39Sky2042pcj: ajaxrc working over there?
05:00.43Sky2042Tekkub: does transcluding the sidebar work (and why not just subst it?)
05:00.51Tekkubyes!
05:00.59Tekkubbecause what if it changes?
05:01.05Sky2042then resubst it?
05:01.07Sky2042:o
05:01.08pcjlol i'm just generating element ids because mediawiki's creators in their infinite wisdom decided to assign them classes instead of unique ids
05:01.19Tekkubwhy?
05:01.22Sky2042pcj: lol
05:01.40Sky2042Tekkub: i dunno. you'd think that might kill the servers if people started copying you?
05:01.56TekkubI dunno, not my problem? :)
05:02.05TekkubI'm not the one that designed that sidebar
05:03.31Sky2042granted.
05:03.57TekkubI don't think most people will want to replace the sidebar, just add to it
05:04.38Sky2042i replaced, but i guess it works. =]
05:13.15pcji use the MDC dom reference so much
05:13.16pcjit rocks
05:29.41Dagmar@#$@ someday I'll make edits without leaving out whole bloody words in sentences.  *sigh*
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05:32.21Sky2042Dagmar: me too.
05:32.23Sky2042i do that in emails also ;_;
05:32.26Sky2042and essays
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05:35.48DagmarI just find it really irritating because I'm educated, I've been speaking and writing English for about 30+ years, and I still eff it up on a regular basis leaving out whole words.
05:38.31DuTempeteat least you care, Dagmar
05:39.14DuTempeteI'm reading this manuscript by an American author who writes like he doesn't know what a simple subject verb object combination is
05:39.21Sky2042lol
05:39.22DuTempeteHe can't manage a semicolon to save his life
05:39.49Sky2042semicolons are too often misused; i find that i know few who can use them correctly.
05:39.51DuTempetehe bounces back and forth between first and third person
05:39.58DuTempetehe mixes tenses
05:39.59Sky2042that's /really/ bad
05:40.04Sky2042o_o
05:40.09DagmarEuw
05:40.16DuTempetehas shitty vocabulary
05:40.24DuTempetelisten to this...
05:40.59DuTempete"Most of the local income was trapping or poaching--at the time there was no law against it."
05:41.26DuTempetehe also said "turtle soup gumbo"
05:41.55Sky2042....
05:42.01DagmarThe latter would be fine, provided the recipe was indeed a gumbo made with soup, but the first one... damn.
05:42.02DuTempeteI was happier with the chick who kept using adjectives that made no sense
05:42.20DuTempetelol well technically... gumbo IS soup :P
05:42.22Sky2042Most of the local income at that time was provided by trapping or poaching, as there was no law against it.
05:42.27Sky2042:/
05:42.30DuTempeteno, Sky you don't get it
05:42.39DuTempetepoaching by definition IS illegal
05:42.43DuTempeteit's illegal trapping :P
05:42.45Sky2042lol
05:43.05Sky2042but what word would you use in its place?
05:43.16DuTempetehunting, maybe
05:43.20DuTempeteor just cut it
05:43.39Sky2042:/
05:43.53DuTempetebut honestly his comment about its legal nature makes no sense and doesn't seem to serve any purpose, either
05:44.12DuTempetewhat's worse is he's writing about the Louisiana bijou culture
05:44.26DuTempeteand doesn't seem to know anything about it besides what we see on tv :P
05:44.35DagmarOh, so he's just demonstrating a level of illiteracy in common with it's inhabitants.
05:46.33DuTempetehehe
05:46.53DuTempetehe's also not using any language patterns that explicitly remind me of the culture
05:47.09DuTempetejust ending things in "-in'"
05:47.42Sky2042....
05:47.49DuTempeteand calling the grandparents Pawpee and Mawmee
05:48.02DuTempeteNot even one French reference
05:48.11Sky2042...
05:49.04DuTempeteoh, and I love this... "--for some reason, the much can make you feet itch and burn."
05:49.09DuTempete*muck
05:49.24DuTempetehe's talking about the swamp muck
05:49.51DuTempeteI commented, "there /is/ a reason for that"
05:50.20DuTempeteoh, and he seems to have a thing for dashes
05:50.39DuTempetepractically emily fricking dickinson in prose
05:51.39DuTempetethis guy just doesn't know wtf he's doing
05:52.37DuTempeteAny suggestions on how I can tell this guy to keep his day job without being mean? :P
05:53.45Sky2042uh, just say you disagreed with how the text was written, and that it needs a thorough copy-editing.
05:54.08DuTempeteheh that's what I'm doing, though :P
05:54.18DuTempeteworkshop project
05:54.20Sky2042o_o
05:54.28DuTempeteI *have* to read the whole thing and critique it
05:54.32Sky2042ouch
06:04.58Dagmar"There are these things, called 'classes' that one may take... where a person called an 'instructor' who speaks fluent English will impart to you the arcane secrets of this long-forgotten language.
06:06.37DuTempetehehehe
06:07.24DuTempete"It doesn't work.  It just translates everything into some archaic, extinct language."
06:07.28DuTempete"hello?"
06:07.31Sky2042arcane is probably a good way to describe english :/
06:07.33DuTempete"bonjour!"
06:07.50Sky2042s/arcane/archaic.
06:07.53DuTempetehugs if you can figure out where that's from
06:08.10Sky2042can i have a hug anyway? :(
06:08.14DuTempetenope
06:08.19Sky2042aw
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06:17.55Sky2042he's been lifeless all night
06:19.23KirkburnRaging at EVE's coding
06:19.37KirkburnWhat kind of game does't have anti-aliasing options?
06:19.45Sky2042Kirkburn: ... lol
06:19.56Kirkburn4 hours of attempting to make it look night, all for nought
06:20.03Kirkburn*look nice
06:20.24Kirkburnruns back to Bourne Identity
06:21.01DagmarYou can always turn it on through the driver controls.
06:21.11KirkburnYeah, no such luck
06:21.27KirkburnNor via prefs.ini, nor via nHancer
06:21.55DagmarI guess it's a good thing I dont' play Eve then, but hell, I'm already running at 1680x1050.
06:22.05DuTempeteWhat do the forums say, Kirkburn ?
06:22.11KirkburnSo shall I ... whenever my damn monitor arrives
06:22.18KirkburnDuTempete, they say: AAAAAAAAAARGH!
06:22.24DuTempetehehehe
06:22.40KirkburnWay too many people haveing the same types of issues
06:23.17KirkburnYou add HDR to the game - yes, that doesn't work with AA on some nVidia cards. That does not, however, mean, remove AA from the options >_>
06:23.52DuTempetethey removed it?!
06:23.57DuTempetelol
06:24.16KirkburnOnce upon a time the options screen had much more apparently (via a prefs.ini tweak)
06:24.16Sky2042lol
06:24.46KirkburnCan't choose AA, can't choose AF, nor texture quality. I just don't get it.
06:25.32KirkburnAnyways
06:25.49KirkburnBack to my film :)
06:25.59DuTempete<insert dog smiley> Kirkburn!
06:26.14Kirkburn<insert kitteh smiley> DuTempete!
06:33.55Kirkburn(wow, Tekkub's watchlist idea has really started something)
06:34.16TekkubKirk, look at my sidebar
06:34.28TekkubIt works, but a "real" bookmark widget would be nicer
06:34.45Sky2042Kirkburn: ?
06:34.51Sky2042(link)
06:34.55KirkburnCan't
06:34.59Sky2042:(
06:35.06Tekkub(Burn)
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06:35.57Sky2042yay slowwikissssssss so fun to tweak.
06:35.57KirkburnWiki page in widget doesn't actually force MW:
06:36.17KirkburnIf you put in the full title, e.g. User:Kirkburn/bookmarks ... it works!
06:36.28DuTempetewhat watchlist idea is that Tekkub?
06:36.32Tekkubah, good, still it shouldn't default there
06:36.36DuTempeteI missed omething :P
06:36.49Tekkubbookmarks not watchlist
06:37.01Tekkubjust something with the new widget stuff
06:37.11Tekkubit's lacking ATM
06:37.26KirkburnCertainly
06:41.19KirkburnBtw, question: do people get annoyed by the edit box toolbar popping into place after page load?
06:41.48Kirkburn(thus pushing down the edit box)
06:42.19Sky2042hmm?
06:42.25Sky2042edit box toolbar?
06:42.37KirkburnYeah
06:43.06KirkburnIt appears just above edit boxes, row of blue buttons
06:43.17Sky2042blue? o_o
06:43.45Sky2042ok, now me is very confoosd.
06:44.23KirkburnSeriously?
06:44.31KirkburnIt's, like, right there
06:44.45MentalPowerwhat skin are you using Sky2042
06:44.47KirkburnUnless you've had it turned off in your prefs for so long you've forgotten about it
06:44.51Sky2042i see no row of blue buttons above the edit boxes...
06:45.05Sky2042MentalPower: monaco.
06:45.12KirkburnPrefs --> Editing --> Show edit toolbar (JavaScript)
06:45.39KirkburnThen click http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki:Upgrade_early_2008&action=edit
06:45.45KirkburnAnd watch the top of the edit box
06:45.49Sky2042ooooooooo
06:47.05Sky2042no, doesn't bother me, since i have to move my cursor down to the edit box anyway, usually.
06:47.21KirkburnThe whole jumping after load thing doesn't annoy you?
06:47.54Sky2042nope.
06:47.54KirkburnI have a fix for it anyway :P
06:48.08Sky2042sighs at Kirkburn. Why, why, why must we do this the hard way?
06:48.20KirkburnI wanted to know if it was just happening to me
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06:50.41KirkburnSky2042, hiding the Portal:Main title works, but it'll mean abandoning the top right news thing
06:51.03Sky2042your call. i honestly don't think we need that; use the banner instead.
06:51.23KirkburnWill have a think
06:51.30KirkburnBack to my movie properly this time
06:57.06Sky2042Kirkburn: redirect [[WoWWiki talk:Main Page Dev]] to PT:Main?...
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07:08.05Dottedo hai laurly
07:08.15laurlyhey Dotted
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08:41.38InnocentlySassygah
08:41.44InnocentlySassyi need to be in a different time zone apparently
08:41.56DagmarQuick!  To the car!
08:42.01InnocentlySassy*runs*
08:42.10InnocentlySassyeh wait
08:42.11InnocentlySassy=D
08:43.51InnocentlySassyi guess ww not loading is a sign for me to sleep?
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08:47.10DawormInnocentlySassy, wikia were doing some data maintenance
08:47.44InnocentlySassy=(
08:47.57DawormI think they still are :s
08:48.03InnocentlySassyyeah
08:48.10InnocentlySassystill won't load for me
08:48.18InnocentlySassyit's telling me to stop with the screenshotting and sleep
08:48.19InnocentlySassyblah
08:48.20Dawormwait - seems to have just kicked back in.
08:48.38Dawormmy edit is there, not showing up when viewing though :s
08:48.56InnocentlySassyyeah not showing me my preview
08:50.13InnocentlySassy=(
08:50.21InnocentlySassyah well... *hugs*
08:50.29InnocentlySassysee you around.  ;)  *wriggles*
08:52.37Dawormblinks
08:54.04DuTempeteDamnit InnocentlySassy don't do that
08:56.55Dawormgets a bucket of cold water
08:57.53DuTempetewriggling... bad...
08:58.04DuTempetewriggles for Kirkburn.
08:58.07DuTempetegrins evilly.
08:59.03Dawormbacks away
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08:59.29DuTempeteaww... why are you backing away?
09:00.38KalrothKirkburn was sitting on Daworm's lap
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09:02.26DuTempeteQuit trying to distract me from the naughty /you're/ doing, Kalroth.
09:02.33DuTempeteDaworm behaves himself.
09:02.46KalrothSuuure, just look at his name.
09:09.29DuTempeteHis name makes me think of something a friend of mine would choose if he were trying to spy on me, Kalroth :P
09:09.53KalrothSee! He's naughty too!
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10:00.15kawaiiHello:)
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11:25.14AdysI hate having a name starting with a-d
11:25.37Adysfucking annoying msgs in every chan because im first on the list ><
11:27.54|Pixel|d'où l'avantage de l'usage du |, vu que c'est classé dernier en utilisant l'ordre alphabétique "IRC" :P
11:28.22Adysouais enfin y'a ceux qui lisent la liste a l'envers
11:29.02CorganAdys
11:29.03Corganhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSXpYUOjp4s
11:29.11Adys[13:28:51] *** [CitationNeeded] (i=refugee@elvis.mu.org): Death on flaxen wings
11:29.11Adys[13:28:51] *** [CitationNeeded] #gsoc
11:29.12Adyswtf
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11:32.29DawormAdys... could always change it :P
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12:13.15Dottedwtf is up with slow wiki?
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12:18.12Dawormagain ?
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13:13.48foxlitDotted: fast wiki is fast.
13:13.56Dottedno
13:15.23DagmarLong commit times are looooooong.
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13:18.24Adysif anyone wants the old tab style back, its not perfect but
13:18.24Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/monaco.css
13:19.49DuTempeteold tab style?
13:19.52pcjit'd better be perfect
13:20.15Adysold wowwiki style for the edit history protect del move watch talk page tabs
13:20.33Adysthough, i left the floats as they are since i think its better, apart from the edit tab but meh
13:21.05Adysand depends on fonts
13:21.10Adyson liberation it looks fine
13:21.14Adyson other fonts it can be too big
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13:29.00pcjslowwiki?
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13:39.12pcjthe tab bottom padding is non existent adys
13:39.24Adysyes thats normal
13:39.45Adysincrease line height and top: position
13:39.54Adysthe bottom padding goes under the page
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13:40.21pcjeww
13:41.15DuTempeteAdys, did you figure out how to get rid of the border at the bottom of the selected tab?
13:41.16Adysnot my fault, blame wikia for doing that way
13:41.37pcji do
13:41.44Adyswell DuTempete only way is to have them 1px above the page
13:41.57Adysmake a 1px border and make it look different for .selected
13:42.54Adysmine works fine atm :)
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13:44.31DuTempetea 1px gap?
13:44.50DuTempeteI don't get how that would work
13:45.29pcjah yes adys that looks better
13:45.32pcjmonaco still sucks
13:45.48pcjput your wowwiki logo adaptation in your user css noob
13:46.03DuTempeteso go back to wowwiki, pcj :P
13:46.10pcji do
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13:46.25pcjbut according to kirkburn its terribly outdated and so if they drop it i want to be prepared
13:47.25Adyswowwiki isnt getting the css fixes monaco is
13:47.27DuTempetewell I think the only reason it could be dumped is if we don't keep it up
13:47.37DuTempetewhat "fixes"?
13:47.44Adysalot of fixes
13:47.47DuTempetemonaco is getting doodads... not any fixes I know of
13:48.13Adyslike it or not monaco gets and will get fixes over time and wowwiki wont :)
13:48.25Adysthats why its much simpler to create an user css to modify that
13:49.31Adyspcj:  would love to, kirk broke it
13:49.37Adysand didnt check how to fix yet
13:49.40pcj._.
13:50.21Adysi think itd be simpler to redo it in js
13:52.38Adysor..
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14:06.22Adyshttp://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/images/2/24/WoWWiki_icon_stamp.png
14:10.14Gourra'ello
14:10.31Adyshey
14:24.58Adyspcj
14:25.11AdysTry my css again
14:32.58pcjcool
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14:40.39pcjit's not showing the image adys
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14:42.04Adyspcj:  ?
14:42.30Adyslogo shows fine here
14:46.28pcjhmm
14:49.23pcjbrb
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15:07.03Oselaurly?
15:07.13laurlylo
15:08.29OseI was looking at http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php and I thought it could be cool to have on some of this info on our server pages. Could it be possible to do so easily? (bot?)
15:08.47OseI figured you'd be the person to ask
15:09.22laurlyyeah its doable.
15:09.56foxlit*cough* license.
15:10.19Osehmm...
15:10.21laurlywell bot rips from wowhead already :)
15:10.41laurlybut i supose i did ask them if it was ok.
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15:11.38Osewe could ask these guys too?
15:11.53foxlithttp://www.warcraftrealms.com/dataexport.php probably
15:14.02Oselaurly: can we fix it?
15:14.38laurlyhas a funny feeling "we" actally means "you" as in her...
15:14.57Oseyes you can?
15:15.52laurlyyes i could. but do i have the time is a diffrent question.
15:16.11laurlyi still need to test NPC bot fully. and i have something going live for work next monday
15:16.25Oseno hurry :P
15:16.29laurlyhmm why not put it on the bot request wish list?
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15:16.56Oseowkeedowkee
15:17.35foxlitAlso, consider that server pages share virtually nothing with each other, so putting that data in via a bot might be troublesome layout-wise
15:18.47foxlit(it'd probably be saner to use some brand of elinks-server to link to warcraft realms / armory / stuff)
15:22.58Adysitd be time to standardize server pages tbh
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15:32.06Adysjesus
15:32.18Adysi found an old manual from some shitty monitor i had
15:32.21Adys"Be carefully to your LCD monitor, it very exquisite but easy to broken."
15:32.29Adysni hao guys
15:32.53Dagmar<PROTECTED>
15:33.21laurlyagrees with adys about standardizing server pages.
15:33.41Adys:D
15:33.53AdysGo ahead and do it ill, uh.. follow
15:35.16laurlyno thanks got my hands full right now.
15:36.20Adys:(
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15:57.05Oseuhm, i'm already working on a server standard...
15:57.47Osesee http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Server_pages
15:59.12foxlitConsidering server pages are maintained by rather distinct groups of people rather than based on any specific recipe, attempting to standardize seems undesirable
15:59.43foxlit"offer help", maybe; get people to use specific stuff, nah.
16:01.17OseI was thinking of noticing people on the server talk pages and actually involve them
16:01.27Oseask for ideas and stuff
16:01.43Dagmar"needs moar murloxs"
16:03.01pcjmost of the server pages contain similar information
16:03.14pcjend game progression, who can craft what, who's notable on the server
16:03.28Oseguild lists...
16:03.33pcjso standardization should be pretty easy
16:04.26foxlitpck: they contain subsets of a similar set of information
16:04.32foxlits/k/j/
16:04.57pcjand?
16:05.02Osehttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sandbox/Server/Test lookit
16:05.15foxlitOse: seen it, don't like it
16:05.22foxlitWHY IS THEM BOXES ON MY FACE?
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16:07.43Osewhat would you prefer foxlit?
16:07.53foxlittext.
16:08.00foxlitAnd some ==headers==
16:09.26foxlitI'd actually settle for some instance-boss style infobox
16:09.44foxlitserver name, link to official forums, armory, established date, region, population, that sort of thing
16:10.05foxlitWhereas content can be added by humanoid editors in the usual wiki fashion
16:10.59foxlitThe only really "complex" bit of wiki markup on server pages are progression/guild tables, and those don't lend themselves to one-template-fits-all customization.
16:11.23Osei'll look into it later
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17:40.33Gourraany admin here?
17:41.06Gourrapong Kirkburn
17:41.48Gourrafoxlit?
17:43.01laurlyhmm bet they all went to the bathroom together to fix there makeup
17:43.42Gourradamn
17:44.21pcjwell i hope they come back
17:54.09foxlit~ask
17:54.09infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
17:54.42Dottedhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Coming_soon&diff=0&oldid=1299874
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17:59.22AdysDotted:  [[Dance]]s
17:59.24Adysl2p
17:59.30Dottedi care
17:59.36Dottedso much
18:00.03Dottedatleast it was alot less fail than the edit before me
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18:27.28laurlyGurtogg Bloodboil is ugly!
18:27.51Adys<insert obligatory NO U joke here>
18:28.22laurlywhy do i have a feeling tonight is going to be one big repair bill :)
18:28.38Adysah memories.
18:31.35Dottedlaurly at least you get to raid
18:31.57laurlyits all i still do in wow.
18:32.44laurlyi had more time for wow when i didnt work :(
18:32.48Dottedyeah but the guild im in atm has member issues, but thats more related to being casually casual.
18:33.16laurlyhard when some dont want to be casual and others do.
18:33.43Dottedcurrently leveling a horde to play with some really old school mates of mine
18:34.21Dottedcurrent guild has a 3 day raiding shedule
18:34.40Dottedjust not enough and the member issue is just plain getting old
18:44.13CairennKirkburn: ping?
18:47.00Adysi think hes asleep cairenn
18:47.07Cairennokay, thanks
18:47.20Adysneeded something?
18:48.19Cairennit can wait
18:48.22Cairennthanks :)
18:48.24Adysaight
18:50.32Osehmm... what should a server infobox contain?
18:50.39Ose^ foxlit
18:51.18foxlitfoxlit: server name, link to official forums, armory, established date, region, population, that sort of thing
18:58.54laurlytype
18:59.14Adysh/a ratio
19:10.07Osehttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sandbox/Server/Infobox
19:10.17Osewhoops, forgot type
19:12.06OseI kinda feel it needs an image...
19:19.20Osewhat other kinds of links could there be?
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19:39.29Osehmm... why doesen't the battlegroup box collapse?
19:40.59Osefoxlit?
19:41.14Oseyou know these things right?
19:43.32foxlitI can figure those things out; however, now is not the best time
19:44.15OseI'm just copypasting and modificating thing until I get a good result :P
19:53.43Oseexactly what is the move limit?
19:59.22Adysa throttle
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20:00.42Osehow much?
20:01.01Osehow many moves per what?
20:01.49Oseuhm, is there any server pages on armory?
20:12.38pcjno
20:21.30Oseuhm, I can't save my changes to http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Doomhammer_Europe because one of the guild links is spamblocked
20:21.42Osea link which was already there...
20:27.17pcjgrats?
20:27.44Adysremove it then
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20:30.02Osebut how was it saved in  the first place?
20:30.15Adysbefore the spamblock extension addition
20:31.34Osehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Doomhammer_Europe succes!
20:32.10Sky2042Ose: the show hide link is teh bork.
20:32.15AdysPut the links under the battlegroup
20:32.25Adysand rename it "External links"
20:32.40Sky2042Ose: and further, no reason to have a /population link.
20:32.41Ose[21:39]<Ose>hmm... why doesen't the battlegroup box collapse?
20:32.42Ose[21:43]<foxlit>I can figure those things out; however, now is not the best time
20:32.53Adysill check it out
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20:34.31Osesky2042: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Bot_requests
20:35.11Sky2042why not just leave a link to WCR? for one, i'm not sure rollie would appreciate bot's :x
20:35.24Sky2042two, i'm definitely sure he'd rather have links than bots
20:35.33Adysand three he gives external data
20:35.50Sky2042hmm?
20:36.01Adyswe talked about it before, its fine
20:36.29Sky2042hmm?
20:36.32Sky2042ack
20:36.36Sky2042who is we?*
20:37.10Oselaurly adys ose foxlit..?
20:37.17Sky2042ah...
20:37.18Adyswhat?
20:37.18laurlyeah?
20:37.23Osedid I forget anyone?
20:37.54laurlyah nope
20:38.19laurlywhy does my wiki todo list keep getting biger insted of smaller
20:38.31Adysstop taking wikiviagra
20:38.46AdysBoy was that poor..
20:38.48laurlyok thats scarry
20:38.58laurlyvery considering the fact im a girl i wonder what it would do
20:39.15Sky2042isn't viagra just a steroid?...
20:39.18laurlyboobs stand up maybe?
20:39.21Sky2042lol
20:40.16KirkburnSomething ya'll might be interested in - the universal me tracker on http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/monaco.css
20:40.32Osehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viagra
20:40.49Oseor http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Viagra
20:40.55Adyswhat does that do Kirkburn ?
20:40.56Osechoose whatever you prefer
20:41.10Sky2042bolds your name in rc, i think
20:41.17Sky2042(just glancing at it)
20:41.59KirkburnAnd page histories
20:42.50Osed'oh...
20:43.18OseI just imported kirks, and voila, "Kirkburn: Now in green!"
20:43.31KirkburnStrange, that
20:44.33laurlywtf i get all this awsom gear. get shit loads of agro from it and they tell me to wand the bosss.....
20:44.50Sky2042LOL
20:44.56Osekirkburn: accept/decline my watchdogs application plz?
20:45.00laurlypouts in the corner
20:45.08Osedoesen't like waitng...
20:45.45Ose... copypasted kirks this time, but forgot to change the name... same result...
20:46.13Ose*bonk*
20:46.22Adyslaurly: Its all about the wand, told you you should stop taking w... nevermind
20:46.33Sky2042lol/
20:46.47laurlywhy does this conversation remind me of guild chat.
20:47.19Osesky2042; what does #wiki_logo, feqwe ew fwe fe aefjehu nfle mfejn feknf jenf ljek fe  { display: none; } mean?
20:47.38Adysit means #wiki_logo wont display
20:47.48Adysi know, css is hard and complicated
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20:47.56Osefeqwe ew fwe fe aefjehu nfle mfejn feknf jenf ljek fe?
20:47.58laurlywtf and my durability is at 0
20:48.02Adyslink?
20:48.35Adysby itself it means nothing since it would hide elements of those tags
20:48.41Adysbut since those tags dont exist.
20:48.42Sky2042_Kirkburn: when is <forum> tags gonna abe implemented? ;_;
20:48.50Adyshow about never
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20:48.57Sky2042_Adys: orly???
20:49.09Oseand shouldn't body.page-Portal_Main h1.firstHeading { display:none; } be on the main css?
20:49.11Adyswhy the heck would we need a forum? or i dont get your tag
20:49.26Adysno it shouldnt yet
20:49.27Sky2042_Adys: http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=Forum:Village_Dump&action=edit
20:49.37laurlyi say tanks suck.
20:49.58Adysyeah we dont need a forum whats this on about
20:50.10Sky2042_we have a namespace just for it.
20:50.17KirkburnOse, it'll break it atm
20:50.20AdysSorry what?
20:50.28Sky2042_why not use it, instead of village pump?
20:50.40Sky2042_sighs at Adys. Look at the list of namespaces on wowwiki.
20:50.44Adysbecause we have been using the vp for... a few years
20:50.48Oseforums are for nubs
20:51.00Osepats IRC
20:51.01Adyseven wikipedia does fine without a forum
20:51.06Adyswhy the heck would we need one?
20:51.15Adysand please dont take uncyclopedia as an example.
20:51.27Sky2042_that was showing you that thye exist.
20:51.57AdysI was preventing any laughter with possible death as consequence
20:52.31Sky2042_as to why, i'm of the opinion that the village pump is getting too large too frequently. either we can continue to archive the information, or we can start using the namespace provided. or wecan split the village pump into two or three more. Forum's much more flexible, however.
20:52.34Adysbesides seriously if we go and implement a forum why the HELL do it with <forum>
20:52.43Sky2042_because it's there already?
20:52.54Sky2042_it's stable, to boot.
20:52.59Adysso?
20:53.07Adysit sucks
20:53.09Sky2042_and allows wiki-posting
20:53.12Sky2042_your opinion
20:53.15Adysit doesnt even suck, its awful
20:53.35Adysif we ever have a forum its to attract people who DONT know wikis well
20:53.36Sky2042_then fix it :/. you're free to your opinion, either way.
20:53.48Adysand you're gonna make them use forum tags which are ten times more complicated?
20:53.56Sky2042_...
20:54.18Sky2042_that's only for the pretty links at the top level, not where people actually post.
20:54.38Adysthanks i had a look how they worked, that doesnt change my opinion
20:54.46Adysthey already have to edit stuff
20:55.28Sky2042_it's the same process as currently... :/ it's the difference between a "Comment" button at the top of the page and a "Click here to start new page" button.
20:55.38Sky2042_it's the same process as currently... :/ it's the difference between a "Comment" button at the top of the page and a "Click here to start new page" button.
20:55.40Adysso why change?
20:55.50Gourracould an admin replace the icons with svg one? http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Blockipsuccesstext http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Blockedtext
20:55.52AdysWe can even bot the vp archiving
20:56.02Gourrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Icon-error.svg <-- svg icon
20:56.35Adysdone
20:56.37Sky2042_but that's retarded. it's caused split information in the past, and will continue to do so. with a page to itself, a topic has time for people to develop it.
20:56.42Gourrathanks adys
20:56.44Adyssoooooo?
20:56.51Adyswikipedia does fine since years with a vp
20:57.04Adys(multiple vp, but they are still a hundred times more active than ours)
20:57.29Sky2042_and the information has to be repeated. over. and over. and over.
20:57.36Sky2042_which inefficient.
20:57.42Adysyeah forums totally fix that
20:57.45Adys...
20:57.47BibiAdys
20:57.48AdysJust like the <math> tag its not because it exists we need it
20:57.50Bibihttp://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-12340-1.html
20:57.55BibiEdited 11 times in total, last edited by Teza, Today, 20:46
20:57.56Bibi:DDDDDDD
20:58.11Adysjparies que les 10 autres fois c'etait toi
20:58.14BibiFirst rule of using fake accounts to copy paste cheating sites : Don't use your admin account after that to edit the post.
20:58.44Adys12 times now tbh
20:58.53Bibihttp://boards.worldofraids.com/autor-7236-1.html
20:59.03Bibicheck the bottom, that's a copy paste of the whole farming section on mmo-champ :p
20:59.13KirkburnI'm fairly open to the idea of a wiki-style forum, it would help manage the VP certainly
20:59.32Adysthat can be done without a forum tag
20:59.35Adyslook at my user page
20:59.48Adyshow i managed to create a whole blogging platform
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20:59.53Sky2042_and your user page = forum. != vp.
21:00.05Adysyou dont make sense sky
21:00.18Sky2042_your user page is meant to be static. forums aren't.
21:00.23Sky2042_ack
21:00.24Adysyou kidding?
21:00.31Adysdid you look at my userpage?
21:00.32Sky2042_sighs.
21:00.55Sky2042_that's what forums are :/ ...
21:01.00Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys
21:01.02Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/News
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21:01.08Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/News/h
21:01.29franky_i found a link to see on a computer : http://74.59.93.72:81/
21:02.02AdysEh?
21:02.56laurlythis is pissing me off.
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21:07.00Syzgynis Coobra on here by chance?
21:07.10AdysNop
21:07.38Syzgynhow about another admin I could chat with for a few
21:07.42AdysIm here
21:07.55Sky2042_there's a few of us.
21:08.04Adysbut you sir are more useless than the others
21:08.11Sky2042_anyone with an @ next to their names
21:08.12Syzgynhaha
21:08.27AdysSee what I mean
21:08.31Adysthe @ is client dependent
21:08.56Sky2042_it's a presumed character. if it's not an @, it's prolly the people at the top of the list.
21:09.05Sky2042_either way, the point makes it way across.
21:09.10Gourrafor me it's a green dot..
21:09.16Sky2042_if they don't get it, then they can ask.
21:09.22Sky2042_Gourra: me too.
21:09.31GourraXChat?
21:09.36Sky2042_Charzilla.
21:09.42GourraI see
21:09.50Sky2042_s/char/chat
21:10.17pcjfail
21:10.55Adyson some clients its the mode
21:11.00AdysAdys+o
21:11.19Adyson some client its nick color
21:11.26Adyss/t/ts/
21:11.48Adyson some clients its completely different modes because some people cant be fucked enough to stick to standards
21:11.56Adyss/modes/letters/
21:12.09Adyss/letters/chars/
21:12.15Adysmeh
21:12.35Kasoxchat uses colored dots, but i still cant work out what some of the colors i see on other servers are, green = op, yellow = voice, but what the hell are purple, dark red, and blue?
21:12.45Adyspurple is admin
21:12.48Adysblue is half op
21:13.04Adysdark red is owner
21:13.06Kasoah
21:13.08Kasohow can you be half an op?
21:13.22Adysby having half of you afk when you get +o
21:13.32Kasoheh
21:13.47Adysdunno some servers use modes with limitations and powers different to hyperion
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21:14.09Adysadmins on mmoirc can kline while ops cant
21:14.19Adyson freenode theres no difference
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21:15.46Kasohalfop:  
21:15.46KasoPeople who moderate channels on IRC. Usually with half the power and twice the arrogance of ops.
21:15.59Sky2042Or Adys.
21:15.59Kasothanks urbandictionary!
21:16.03Adysman thank fuck theres no halfop on freenode then
21:16.12Adysyou cant be twice more arrogant than me
21:16.15Oseg'nite
21:20.08Adyshttp://teo.selfip.net/wowwiki-quotes.html
21:20.11Adysupdated !
21:23.11kd3hm... wonder if we can change the "log in/create account" buttons to yellow instead of green
21:23.56Adysbutton?
21:24.06Kirkburnwhen logged out, silly
21:25.04Adysits white
21:26.17KirkburnAanyway, kd3, can't find a yellow version
21:26.25Adyslearn to svg
21:26.34Adys:).
21:26.37KirkburnIt's green on all skins, so we'll need to make our own version for that
21:26.37amrookay, what do you do when blizzard bans you for no reason?
21:26.50kd3check your email and contact account administration
21:26.54Adysyou ban them for no reason, amro
21:26.59amrogood one
21:27.09Adysamro: phone them first
21:27.13amroI did check and they seem to think  I bought the account, they're asking me to fax them some stuff
21:27.50amroand I can't for various reasons
21:28.21Sky2042what's that one website that generates a page with 40 thumbs of different browser views of one specific page?
21:28.25amroworst part is that people who sell accounts can get around this easily, ugh
21:28.27Syzgynamro: did you buy the account
21:28.32Adysbrowsershots.org
21:28.35Sky2042ty
21:28.35kd3browsershots.org
21:28.37amroyeah, back in 2004, in a box
21:28.39kd3iirc
21:28.40Adysyou SUCK kd3 !
21:28.42Syzgynlol
21:28.54kd3adys: these green buttons: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/3adc697c1aeb0e04432e5d55c0beef86.jpg
21:28.58Syzgynwhy cant you fax the stuff then?
21:29.38Adysblack/white/transparent xchat theme?
21:29.40amrobecause it's asking for legal documents that don't exist where I live, and also because the info in my account is outdated. okay second one is my fault but cmon
21:29.43Adysyou have no taste :(
21:29.59kd3meh, I'm lazy. it's served me well over the years
21:31.07Syzgynkd3: egad your screen is biiiig. *jealous*
21:31.18Adysits a dual monitor
21:31.23kd32x 1680x1050
21:31.45Adyslemme find that ss
21:31.54Syzgynsighs at his tiny 17" CRT
21:32.01amroany ideas? I'm losing hope here =(
21:32.15kd3other than jumping through AA's hoops, I dunno
21:32.21Syzgyntry explaining that you dont have whatever documents they want?
21:32.26Syzgynoffer some alternative ones?
21:33.23amroHello, Thank you for contacting us regarding blah blah blah. We'd like to inform you that we don't care, and that further complaints belong up your ass. Thank you, Rlayewynn, Senior GM
21:33.24Adyskd3: http://86.210.171.214/~adys/screenshot1.png
21:33.41Adysthats me completely fucking up the metacity theme :(
21:34.04kd3eesh
21:34.11Adys(on a sidenote, people need to learn to use css and not xml to style shit)
21:34.28amroqt4 does, it's so sweet
21:34.32amroGTK needs to do that
21:34.58Adys−
21:34.58Adys<frame_geometry name="normal_maximized" parent="normal" rounded_top_left="false" rounded_top_right="false" rounded_bottom_left="false" rounded_bottom_right="false">
21:35.00Adys..
21:36.18Adys#normal_maximized < normal { -mc-border-radius-[bottomleft, bottomright, topleft, topright]: none; }
21:37.24amrobah screw it, I'll just use my EU account
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22:10.59CorganI just ate Adys for dinner.
22:11.19AdysI just ate your dog for breakfast
22:11.27Corgan:(
22:13.02pcji just ate ur mom for dessert
22:14.18kirbythats what she said
22:14.28amroI ate adys yesterday. (adys == lentils in arabic)
22:14.37Adysgreat
22:14.52Adysim so many fucking things around in languages its disgusting
22:15.46amroyeah well amro is a female name in japanese, doesn't get much worse than that
22:16.42Adys13fyounggirlkissxXx is my name in japanese
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22:47.14KirkburnYay, <youtube>'s size bug has been fixed, not sure when it'll be live
22:48.03Kasosize bug?
22:49.06Sky2042having ufn over there adys?
22:49.11AdysYea
22:49.17Sky2042kek
22:49.19Adyscvn-wikia is pretty fun
22:49.22Adyswhy arent you there
22:49.39Sky2042i don't have it on autojoin. which basically means i'm lazy
22:52.26Sky2042oh boy!
22:52.35Adys?
22:54.34Sky2042my fucking god ose :(
23:02.16Adys?
23:05.12Sky2042Adys: [[Category:Miscellany for deletion explained]]
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23:23.36Sky2042anyone know someone who plans on magtheridon us?
23:23.40Sky2042s/plans/plays
23:24.20Sky2042oh well, nvm
23:25.38Krolmorwhat class ya play sky?
23:25.56Krolmori'm torn between paladin and warrior here.
23:27.41Sky2042played, and it was a mage. i would suggest pld though.
23:27.41Sky2042=]
23:27.41Krolmoroo
23:27.42Krolmorhow come :o
23:27.52Sky2042why? teh helz.
23:28.04KrolmorCan I ask ya some questions - about pallys I mean
23:28.18Krolmor(tend to get overly annoying when asking)
23:28.31Sky2042i'll try to answer them, though i'm positive the wiki or someone else in here or #wowhead will help more.
23:29.38Krolmorah, just wanted to know if they make realiable MTs.. relying on white damage + holy damage from seals sounds like a bad idea for holding aggro on 1 mob
23:30.09Sky2042[[paladins as tanks]] might be something to look at.
23:30.44GourraSky2042 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Paladins_as_tanks
23:30.52Sky2042sighs at gourra.
23:30.52kd3lol
23:31.14Gourranow where is that Infobox application form..
23:31.24Sky2042bah, it's spelled wrong.
23:31.35Gourras/box/bot/
23:31.58Gourraoh it's right next to the Exit button
23:32.57Sky2042wonder where theron the just went...
23:33.43Krolmorjesus
23:33.52Krolmoryou guys have a link for EVERYTHING, i'm impressed o.o ty!
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23:34.20Sky2042Krolmor: hehe
23:35.34kd355k articles... we're bound to have it somewhere
23:37.02Krolmorhehe
23:37.29Sky2042that would be the theory...
23:37.30Krolmorpinging the datacenter last hops -should- be a realistic way to measure ping right?
23:37.42Krolmorprobably put a little more in there to compensate for game mechanism, but overall..
23:44.21Adysno Krolmor
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23:44.46AdysA lot of connections are throttled, redirected, killed, authenticated... for many reasons
23:45.01Adysnon ingame connections that is
23:46.06Krolmori see
23:46.25Krolmorthere's no real realistic way to choose a realm by best connection then
23:46.33Krolmorwow, i said real realistic
23:47.14Sky2042golfclaps for Krolmor.
23:47.27Adysirrrrrregardlessly
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