| 00:03.34 | Kirkburn | pcj, check out the category bar on the new skin :P |
| 00:03.46 | kd3 | sighs |
| 00:03.51 | Kirkburn | Or you |
| 00:03.51 | kd3 | yet another server page revert warring |
| 00:04.02 | Kirkburn | kd3, check out the cat bar on the new skin :P |
| 00:04.53 | pcj | this better be worth it |
| 00:04.57 | kd3 | we're still temp-using slate, right? |
| 00:05.15 | pcj | sapphire |
| 00:05.19 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Kirkburn#Monaco_skin_preview |
| 00:05.26 | Kirkburn | sapphire is the base skin for custom skins |
| 00:05.54 | Kirkburn | It is worth it pcj :P |
| 00:06.15 | Kirkburn | it shows off one of the new things we can do now |
| 00:06.43 | pcj | category bar? |
| 00:06.55 | pcj | hmm let me cache refresh i guess |
| 00:07.45 | Kirkburn | I'm still working thru the list atm, check the main, user, user talk ones |
| 00:08.24 | pcj | kirkburn the category bar looks just like the wowwiki skin |
| 00:08.29 | kd3 | ah, that's a nice sign to see. SSO's top of most-visited content |
| 00:08.54 | Kirkburn | pcj ... not quite |
| 00:09.09 | Kirkburn | not seeing the icon on the far right? |
| 00:09.17 | pcj | yeah i see it but it doesn't do anything |
| 00:09.42 | Kirkburn | It's basically showing off how we can do per-namespace css |
| 00:09.52 | pcj | ... |
| 00:09.53 | pcj | *bored* |
| 00:10.00 | pcj | switching back to wowwiki skin now |
| 00:10.20 | Kirkburn | It might be useful for other stuff, I'm just testing the idea atm |
| 00:10.36 | Kirkburn | Although I'll probably keep this stuff, cause it looks nice :P |
| 00:10.42 | pcj | It looks ok |
| 00:10.50 | pcj | Might put it on the left side behind categories tho |
| 00:10.54 | kd3 | bah... www.EliteAccounts.com and www.MmorpgHack.com/Bot need to get filtered from the goog ads |
| 00:11.00 | Kirkburn | http://homeworld.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page uses it fairly extensively |
| 00:11.11 | Kirkburn | kd3, they do indeed |
| 00:11.20 | Kirkburn | I'm going to have to enquire about that again |
| 00:12.11 | Kirkburn | Example of per namespace css - http://homeworld.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Statistics |
| 00:12.20 | Kirkburn | pcj, I think it might collide too much with the text |
| 00:12.41 | pcj | Uh, give it a bit of padding? |
| 00:12.50 | Kirkburn | The right side version has that |
| 00:12.58 | pcj | on 1680x1050 it's on the freaking other side of the screen |
| 00:13.08 | Kirkburn | Heh, this is true |
| 00:13.26 | Kirkburn | I'll try it out |
| 00:15.09 | Kirkburn | kd3, I think filtering just isn't active on it yet |
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| 00:38.52 | Sky2042 | don't hurt me kirkburn ;x |
| 00:38.57 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 00:40.55 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: why's that icon in the categories bar? |
| 00:41.10 | Kirkburn | Each namespace gets its own icon |
| 00:41.15 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 00:41.17 | Sky2042 | oh. |
| 00:41.32 | Kirkburn | Partly a test of the new namespace specific css |
| 00:41.45 | Kirkburn | And partly cause it makes the bottom of the screen less dull |
| 00:42.05 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 00:42.15 | Sky2042 | what is it with you and adding images in places that don't need them? |
| 00:42.16 | Kirkburn | Also think it might be useful as it tells you at a glance what namespace you're in :) |
| 00:42.17 | Sky2042 | >_< |
| 00:42.31 | Kirkburn | Hey, people want a livlier skin |
| 00:42.39 | Sky2042 | since when? o_o |
| 00:43.11 | Kirkburn | Since they saw the new skin? |
| 00:43.33 | Sky2042 | uh, who is these people, and which skin?... |
| 00:44.43 | Sky2042 | hmm |
| 00:44.57 | Kirkburn | The skin doesn't have much colour, trying to bring some back |
| 00:45.18 | Sky2042 | i don't know that it had much to begin with :o |
| 00:45.24 | Kirkburn | Been trying some yellow highlights, but they mostly look garish |
| 00:45.37 | Kirkburn | The sidebar has lost the yellow, mainly |
| 00:46.41 | Sky2042 | it was yellow?... |
| 00:46.44 | Sky2042 | o_o |
| 00:48.19 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 00:48.21 | Kirkburn | border |
| 00:48.51 | Sky2042 | gah @ pre |
| 00:49.14 | Sky2042 | wasn't yellow in mine... but i may be on crack. |
| 00:50.11 | Sky2042 | now how do i get rid of your evil image background |
| 00:50.14 | Sky2042 | hmm |
| 00:50.23 | pcj | use the cologneblue skin sky |
| 00:50.31 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 00:50.34 | Sky2042 | kicks pcj. |
| 00:51.25 | Sky2042 | hmm |
| 00:51.35 | Kirkburn | .color2 { background-url: none; } |
| 00:53.03 | Kirkburn | What's wrong with pre? |
| 00:53.44 | Sky2042 | i can't get it to overflow :( |
| 00:54.27 | Kirkburn | It's display:table |
| 00:54.41 | Kirkburn | You probably need to change that |
| 00:54.46 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 00:56.25 | Kirkburn | Why are you dotdotdot-ing me? |
| 00:56.54 | Kirkburn | It's exactly as it was in the old skin |
| 00:56.57 | Sky2042 | because MW must be retarded not to use the actual pre element. |
| 00:57.29 | Kirkburn | Who says it isn't? |
| 00:57.32 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 00:57.49 | Sky2042 | and .color2 {background-url: none;} failed. in preview :/ |
| 00:57.51 | Kirkburn | The wowwiki.css defined pre as display:table |
| 00:58.02 | Sky2042 | huh |
| 00:58.29 | Kirkburn | oh, sorry, background-image |
| 00:58.48 | Kirkburn | Tried it without, but it doesn't really work as wanted |
| 01:03.14 | Sky2042 | bah |
| 01:03.27 | Sky2042 | it is quite plainly, <pre> |
| 01:03.30 | Sky2042 | that's frustrating. |
| 01:04.09 | Kirkburn | Sidebar tweaked |
| 01:04.17 | Kirkburn | Added a splash of colour, smaller text |
| 01:04.30 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: what's the class for the bar above the title? |
| 01:04.45 | Sky2042 | you added that image there too |
| 01:04.47 | Sky2042 | :x |
| 01:05.18 | Kirkburn | No, takes the same class |
| 01:05.29 | Kirkburn | *I* didn't add it there, anyway |
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| 01:22.38 | Kirkburn | For those watching here - #wowi-lounge is now #wowuidev ... move, move, move! |
| 01:25.04 | pcj | makes more sense |
| 01:27.49 | Kirkburn | Fandy is trying out the new skin ;) |
| 01:27.51 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: 1: "*I* didn't add it there, anyway" ? 2: it apparently does not. |
| 01:28.01 | Sky2042 | i'm seeing little checkered squares on that bar. |
| 01:28.09 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, the designer added it |
| 01:28.15 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 01:28.22 | Sky2042 | starts swearing. |
| 01:28.49 | Kirkburn | Oh, come on, it's some lines |
| 01:28.51 | Kirkburn | Anyway |
| 01:28.51 | pcj | stops swearing |
| 01:29.05 | Kirkburn | background-image:none doesn't work? |
| 01:29.15 | Sky2042 | no, that was fine. |
| 01:29.46 | Kirkburn | Soo, what's 2. about? |
| 01:30.01 | Sky2042 | answered by #1 |
| 01:30.03 | Sky2042 | :p |
| 01:30.35 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 01:30.39 | pcj | *boggle* |
| 01:30.58 | pcj | so IE doesn't support using innerHTML on tables... |
| 01:31.07 | pcj | because of the "unique structure of table design" |
| 01:31.11 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 01:31.13 | pcj | ...right |
| 01:31.24 | pcj | well it supports reading innerHTML but not setting it |
| 01:31.24 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, it does take the same class though <div id="wikia_header" class="reset color2"> <-- .color2 |
| 01:31.27 | Sky2042 | in other words, MS has stupid internet devs |
| 01:31.33 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: it's not the same class though. |
| 01:31.36 | Sky2042 | I just called the id. |
| 01:32.18 | Kirkburn | Well, I decided I wouldn't make it easy for you :P |
| 01:32.28 | Sky2042 | ;( |
| 01:32.35 | Sky2042 | you should make the bg image an option. really. |
| 01:32.52 | Sky2042 | and import a copy of the inside.wikia page |
| 01:32.53 | Kirkburn | Hey, I'd prefer people testing the skin, not an alteration of it :P |
| 01:33.27 | Sky2042 | yes, well, changing the skin now is the best time to |
| 01:33.31 | Kirkburn | interesting that you mention that |
| 01:33.58 | Sky2042 | .... |
| 01:34.30 | Kirkburn | Hopefully in the not distant future our (and all Wikia) help articles will be in a better state, and served out to all wikis |
| 01:34.46 | Kirkburn | Well, that was phrased badly |
| 01:34.51 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 01:35.03 | Kirkburn | help.wikia is intended to transclude to all wikis at some point |
| 01:35.09 | Sky2042 | that's cool. |
| 01:35.21 | Kirkburn | And indeed some of the stuff from inside needs to move there |
| 01:36.03 | Kirkburn | Once the skin is live, then will be the time to tell the world how to customize it :) |
| 01:37.23 | kd3 | heh at [[Special:Mostlinkedtemplates]] |
| 01:39.55 | pcj | what? |
| 01:40.13 | kd3 | # Template:Icon Small â(2,480 links) |
| 01:40.31 | kd3 | where most of those are probably from {{NPC}} passing an empty first arg |
| 01:42.41 | Kirkburn | Sometimes Fandy's comments really just confuse the hell out of me |
| 01:43.08 | kd3 | "Can we work on fixing up a darker skin?"? |
| 01:44.15 | Kirkburn | It sounds like he's seeing the wrong skin atm |
| 01:46.13 | Kirkburn | Btw, I noticed I said to untick "see custom skins" ... actually, you should keep that ticked |
| 01:46.31 | kd3 | meh, even with it unchecked it's working fine for me |
| 01:46.33 | Kirkburn | It shouldn't make a difference atm, but when the skin goes live, you'll need it to see the skin |
| 01:48.53 | pcj | ...IE doesn't support style="display:table-cell;" ...? |
| 01:52.25 | Kirkburn | When you say IE, I assume IE7 and previous |
| 01:53.10 | pcj | I hope so |
| 01:53.55 | Kirkburn | That Cairenn kicked me from #wowi-lounge :( Comfort me, pcj! |
| 01:54.45 | Kirkburn | takes #wowi-lounge off his network list in protest ;) |
| 01:55.46 | Cairenn | ~lart Kirkburn |
| 01:55.46 | infobot | DoSes Kirkburn |
| 01:56.40 | Kirkburn | Don't you want me baby? Don't you want me, woah, woah-woah, woooooow? |
| 01:59.05 | Kirkburn | Hmm, I think that's enough yellow in the sidebar now |
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| 01:59.15 | Exodus212 | Hello |
| 01:59.43 | Kirkburn | Wahey, /me works in the shout box |
| 01:59.46 | Kirkburn | Hey Exodus |
| 02:00.15 | Exodus212 | yo |
| 02:02.21 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: :( i don't want to have to be forced to see custom skins, as I hate the color |
| 02:02.32 | Sky2042 | of most of the wikia monaco styles |
| 02:03.06 | Kirkburn | Riight |
| 02:03.15 | Kirkburn | I didn't say you would be forced to keep it ticked |
| 02:03.24 | Kirkburn | Only that you would in order to see the custom skin |
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| 02:05.22 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, sometimes I wonder whether you ask me things just to annoy me :P |
| 02:07.00 | pcj | Does Fandy ask you things just to confuse you then? |
| 02:07.26 | Kirkburn | Yup |
| 02:07.31 | Kirkburn | I haven't decided what you do |
| 02:07.44 | pcj | I ask you things just to be helpful |
| 02:08.03 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, tweaked the sidebar to make the "Edit this menu" bit way less annoying |
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| 02:12.35 | kd3 | bah... had to adblock wikia-ads because the slow loading was getting annoying |
| 02:13.09 | kirby | i did that 7 months ago :P |
| 02:14.58 | pcj | wikia has ads? |
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| 02:16.59 | kd3 | ponders decreeing realm drama to be DNP content |
| 02:19.20 | Kirkburn | kd3, if it involved personal attacks, it already would be :P |
| 02:20.19 | kd3 | bah... the wiki's from: email's changed... |
| 02:20.25 | kirby | pcj: i only know it has ads because i have to turn adblock off sometimes to debug :P |
| 02:20.43 | pcj | debug what? |
| 02:21.17 | Kirkburn | Bug reports |
| 02:21.26 | Kirkburn | Such is the life of a Wikian |
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| 02:25.38 | Kirkburn | kd3, from what to what? |
| 02:26.39 | kd3 | ah, nvm. only the name changed. same address |
| 02:26.44 | kd3 | "WikiAdmin" to "Wikia" |
| 02:31.47 | kd3 | gack. links are the wrong size |
| 02:32.41 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 02:32.50 | Kirkburn | Back to normal |
| 02:33.00 | Kirkburn | Trying to reduce the size of the toolbox links |
| 02:33.04 | Kirkburn | Can't :/ |
| 02:33.32 | kd3 | "#link_box a"? |
| 02:33.42 | Kirkburn | No bloody effect |
| 02:33.58 | Kirkburn | The table it's in seems to prevent it |
| 02:34.13 | Kirkburn | table a ... fine. #linkbox table a ... not fine |
| 02:34.15 | kd3 | "#link_box table li a"? |
| 02:35.17 | Kirkburn | I hate and love you |
| 02:35.24 | kd3 | firebug <3 |
| 02:36.01 | Kirkburn | there we go |
| 02:37.24 | kd3 | tbh the only way I learned css descriptors like that was from figuring out how to override the forums css so page loads would pull in far less crap |
| 02:38.12 | Kirkburn | heh |
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| 04:21.43 | Sky2042_ | DuTempete: is it just me, or did you upload a deleted file? |
| 04:22.09 | Sky2042_ | lol |
| 04:22.13 | Sky2042_ | never ever seen that before. |
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| 04:49.26 | DuTempete | a deleted file? what do you mean, Sky? |
| 04:49.35 | DuTempete | * Sky2042_ |
| 04:50.05 | Sky2042_ | DuTempete: i browsed to RC right when you uploaded the skin example file, and so the link was red. |
| 04:50.16 | DuTempete | lol |
| 04:50.32 | DuTempete | probably just that one bit of a second it was like that? |
| 04:51.03 | Sky2042_ | essentially |
| 04:51.41 | DuTempete | I'm soooo spamming the RC, btw :P |
| 04:52.08 | DuTempete | Oh, and did you actually take a look at that skin example? |
| 04:54.01 | Sky2042_ | no, why? |
| 04:54.54 | DuTempete | I want to know what you think, Sky2042 |
| 04:55.14 | DuTempete | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:User:DuTempete |
| 04:55.17 | DuTempete | it's in there, now |
| 04:55.40 | DuTempete | I darkened the colour of the text in the sidebar |
| 04:56.08 | Sky2042 | too many widgets |
| 04:56.11 | DuTempete | changed the titles of the widgets to a darker/brighter yellow |
| 04:56.28 | DuTempete | and also the navigation arrows |
| 04:56.46 | DuTempete | that has nothing to do with the theme, Sky2042 :P |
| 04:56.47 | Sky2042 | grey in the sidebar looks no bueno |
| 04:56.54 | DuTempete | porque? |
| 04:56.55 | Sky2042 | DuTempete: sure it does. |
| 04:57.17 | Sky2042 | because it's too dark. |
| 04:57.28 | DuTempete | not enough contrast? |
| 04:57.36 | Sky2042 | aye |
| 04:57.39 | Sky2042 | white is fine. |
| 04:57.44 | DuTempete | wasn't white :P |
| 04:58.01 | Sky2042 | last i checked it is. but if it's not, better than what you have :P |
| 04:58.05 | DuTempete | actually, wait, I think it was white |
| 04:58.25 | Sky2042 | as for the widget color, i think kirkburn's goes nicely. |
| 04:59.00 | DuTempete | but I toned it down because the Wikia yellow stuck out too much next to the white |
| 04:59.08 | DuTempete | you like the butter yellow? |
| 04:59.14 | Sky2042 | don't like the text you chose for the sidebar |
| 04:59.22 | Sky2042 | DuTempete: yeah |
| 04:59.47 | DuTempete | I didn't change anything about the text except the colours :P |
| 04:59.50 | Sky2042 | hrm |
| 04:59.58 | Sky2042 | why are yours so much thinner looking than mine :/ |
| 05:00.12 | DuTempete | that's taken from FF |
| 05:00.20 | Sky2042 | soami |
| 05:00.28 | DuTempete | well I dunno :P |
| 05:00.31 | Sky2042 | xD |
| 05:00.44 | DuTempete | if you look at the code, that's all I've messed with :P |
| 05:00.50 | Sky2042 | heh |
| 05:00.56 | DuTempete | I didn't change any font-weights or font-family |
| 05:01.00 | Sky2042 | i'm wondering about getting rid of the icons in the edit bar... |
| 05:01.03 | Sky2042 | hmm |
| 05:01.13 | DuTempete | Oh, I seriously doubt they'll do that |
| 05:01.16 | Sky2042 | and those rediculous icons which tell me which namespace i'm in :/ |
| 05:01.25 | DuTempete | Those are like that ll the way through Wikia |
| 05:01.31 | DuTempete | omg, dont' say that to Kirk's face :P |
| 05:01.45 | Sky2042 | not on SmashWiki :o |
| 05:02.07 | DuTempete | You are so gonna make him pout, now. He's really proud of himself for the namespace icons, and frankly, I think they're neat. |
| 05:02.12 | DuTempete | No reason to take them out. |
| 05:02.58 | Sky2042 | and they add extra clutter to an already cluttered space in the case of pages with lots of categories. |
| 05:03.05 | Sky2042 | [[medivh]], for example. |
| 05:03.22 | DuTempete | that is so rare to make a rule of it |
| 05:03.49 | Sky2042 | soz is making a namespace for three pages... |
| 05:03.57 | Sky2042 | or is it four? |
| 05:04.17 | Sky2042 | ;) |
| 05:04.22 | DuTempete | heh |
| 05:05.42 | Sky2042 | the idea should be that we include as little as is needed to set up the basis for a website: colors, basically. then customization, such as category icons, and that evil evil image-background that kirkburn adores should be in custom css. |
| 05:06.19 | Sky2042 | as for butter yellow, see Recent changes |
| 05:06.21 | Sky2042 | ;o |
| 05:08.31 | Sky2042 | i have the community widget blocked with css for that exact reason. |
| 05:09.43 | DuTempete | What does RC have to do with th ebutter yellow? |
| 05:09.59 | Sky2042 | look at the "N" |
| 05:10.01 | Sky2042 | for new pages |
| 05:10.46 | DuTempete | why is that coloured in the first place? |
| 05:11.46 | Sky2042 | because mediawiki default is black. |
| 05:12.04 | DuTempete | so just make it #EEE like the page text |
| 05:12.37 | DuTempete | and still I wonder what Ns and ms have to do with the yellow colour |
| 05:12.45 | DuTempete | the *choice* of yellow |
| 05:13.13 | Sky2042 | it's been that color yellow for a year now, give or take. |
| 05:13.19 | Sky2042 | :o |
| 05:13.36 | Sky2042 | also, it's to distinguish easily from "m" edits. |
| 05:13.42 | DuTempete | it has?! |
| 05:13.45 | Sky2042 | and call attention to new pages |
| 05:13.47 | Sky2042 | yes |
| 05:14.07 | DuTempete | why not make it green? |
| 05:14.16 | DuTempete | makes more sense |
| 05:14.23 | Sky2042 | uh, don't ask me. |
| 05:14.26 | DuTempete | but still, it could stay that butter colour, too |
| 05:14.42 | Sky2042 | is now very confuzzled. |
| 05:14.43 | DuTempete | the one specials page doesn't have to determine the colour of the accents on the entire site |
| 05:15.29 | Sky2042 | i could care less either way, honestly. |
| 05:15.31 | Sky2042 | heh |
| 05:15.44 | DuTempete | but you think the grey text isn't enough contrast? |
| 05:15.54 | Sky2042 | aye |
| 05:16.44 | DuTempete | what's strange is since I've changed that one colour, I'm noticing the same colour all over the place, but I'm not seeing any declarations anywhere else in Kirk's CSS that would be those things. |
| 05:17.02 | Sky2042 | chuckles. |
| 05:17.07 | Sky2042 | Might be in Common.css ;) |
| 05:17.24 | DuTempete | might, and I just never noticed them being that colour before |
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| 05:17.57 | Sky2042 | i personally think he picked a good color for the side-boxes. |
| 05:18.25 | Sky2042 | he said he thought the yellow was too garish, which i almost agree with him. |
| 05:18.58 | DuTempete | with the white is was definitely awkward |
| 05:19.15 | DuTempete | I also just added yellow to the article tabs |
| 05:19.29 | DuTempete | brings it over to the other side of the page as well |
| 05:19.57 | Sky2042 | yellow to the art. tabs? |
| 05:22.32 | DuTempete | the "article" and "discussion" |
| 05:24.07 | Sky2042 | they were deliberately moved so that more emphasis was on "edit". I'm pretty sure adding color to them is drawing attention the wrong way. |
| 05:26.10 | DuTempete | Yeah, it might draw attention away from there. |
| 05:26.18 | DuTempete | but that's kinda minor |
| 05:26.35 | DuTempete | the goal here is to incorporate the "wowwiki" look |
| 05:26.53 | DuTempete | not to be exactly like, purpose and otherwise, Wikia themes |
| 05:26.57 | Sky2042 | heh |
| 05:27.50 | DuTempete | Rather than telling me I'm doing it all wrong, do you have any suggestions for how I could do waht I'm trying, but in a better way? |
| 05:28.33 | Sky2042 | me, suggestions? |
| 05:28.37 | Sky2042 | starts hacking. |
| 05:28.38 | Sky2042 | um |
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| 05:30.57 | DuTempete | waits |
| 05:31.10 | Sky2042 | indeed. |
| 05:32.03 | DuTempete | see, I don't think there's any less contrast with the darker shade of grey than there is with the links elsewhere in the sidebar |
| 05:32.38 | DuTempete | and, no, there wasn't as much yellow in the wowwiki skin, but one major difference is that the article took a very prominent place on the page |
| 05:32.56 | DuTempete | which it doesn't seem to do with the monaco charcoal skin |
| 05:33.16 | DuTempete | it's far better in the other themes |
| 05:34.09 | Sky2042 | um, how about blue? |
| 05:34.33 | DuTempete | there's already a lot of it because of links |
| 05:34.50 | Sky2042 | i meant, a la darktable |
| 05:34.52 | DuTempete | What about making the title backgrounds yellow instead? |
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| 05:35.08 | Sky2042 | BLARE factor |
| 05:35.11 | DuTempete | lemme find out what colour that is |
| 05:35.13 | DuTempete | the blue |
| 05:35.19 | DuTempete | possibly |
| 05:35.33 | Sky2042 | not the first color, but the 2nd and on. |
| 05:35.41 | Sky2042 | but either would change the look. |
| 05:38.11 | Sky2042 | is kirk italian? |
| 05:40.11 | DuTempete | ok, let me try something else |
| 05:40.16 | DuTempete | no, he isn't, why? |
| 05:40.25 | DuTempete | err, lemme show you this, I mean :P |
| 05:40.59 | Sky2042 | oh wait. he's english. |
| 05:41.01 | DuTempete | actually, I need to find two more things |
| 05:41.01 | Sky2042 | duh |
| 05:41.05 | DuTempete | yes :P |
| 05:41.07 | Sky2042 | sighs. |
| 05:41.11 | DuTempete | but still not any Italian :p |
| 05:41.43 | DuTempete | Maybe some Roman blood from way back in the day, but might as well be English, then |
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| 05:43.50 | Dotted | btw !jobqueue is back for epic lulz |
| 05:43.58 | Dotted | please test |
| 05:44.24 | Sky2042 | !jobqueue |
| 05:44.27 | Dotted | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 283 |
| 05:44.32 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 05:44.37 | Sky2042 | ok. |
| 05:52.37 | DuTempete | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Monacocharcoaltest2.png |
| 05:53.01 | DuTempete | what exactly is the points of !jobqueue anyway, Dotted? |
| 05:53.09 | DuTempete | ^ Sky2042 |
| 05:53.15 | DuTempete | link above |
| 05:53.20 | Dotted | epic lulz? |
| 05:53.24 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 05:53.29 | Sky2042 | hmm |
| 05:53.43 | Sky2042 | that doesn't look have bad. |
| 05:53.56 | Sky2042 | the yellow on grey looks horrid on the right... |
| 05:54.01 | DuTempete | something about it doesn't seem quite right, either, though |
| 05:54.11 | kd3 | eesh... we've apparently got ~4k articles with <200 characters |
| 05:54.14 | DuTempete | but I think it also brings the edit links back into the fore |
| 05:54.20 | Sky2042 | kd3: ew |
| 05:54.27 | kd3 | http://wikistats.wikia.com/EN/TablesWikiaWOWWIKI.htm |
| 05:54.28 | DuTempete | kd3, items |
| 05:54.41 | Sky2042 | npc tags which need filling out. |
| 05:55.04 | Sky2042 | etc etc |
| 05:55.22 | DuTempete | kd3, Dotted, would you check out the image above that I uploaded, and tell me what you think? |
| 05:55.45 | Sky2042 | also, the gold on blue doesn't work. either revert those back to grey, or go with the normal white color |
| 05:56.10 | DuTempete | oh, so it doesn't work, now? :P |
| 05:56.20 | DuTempete | oh, I see you were talking about something else |
| 05:56.50 | kd3 | that's the navbox header blue? looks good. gold on blue's enough of a contrast for me, but we don't have it anywhere else on the wiki |
| 05:57.21 | Sky2042 | infobox, soon to be navbox. |
| 05:57.25 | Sky2042 | grins wickedly. |
| 05:57.40 | DuTempete | the gold is now the dotted line in <pre> |
| 05:58.03 | DuTempete | but that's all I can think of, other than the logo |
| 05:58.14 | Sky2042 | kd3: are you sure thats our wiki? |
| 05:58.28 | kd3 | yeah |
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| 05:58.45 | Sky2042 | huh |
| 05:58.45 | kd3 | http://wikistats.wikia.com/EN/TablesWikiansEditsGt5.htm (warning: huge page) |
| 05:58.53 | kd3 | click the wowwiki link once it's done loading |
| 05:59.44 | kd3 | plus, scroll down |
| 05:59.52 | kd3 | some rather familiar names in the "recently active wikians" table |
| 06:01.00 | Sky2042 | aw nuts, foxbot passed varg |
| 06:01.54 | Sky2042 | laurlybot only has more cause it only counts article space :( |
| 06:04.49 | Sky2042 | strange, that it's counting server articles but not providing correct links... |
| 06:05.39 | kd3 | what'd we do in december? was that the tooltip changeover? |
| 06:05.55 | Sky2042 | good question |
| 06:05.59 | Sky2042 | end of december, no less. |
| 06:06.12 | Sky2042 | also, june last year |
| 06:06.49 | Sky2042 | october and november, also |
| 06:07.14 | Sky2042 | yes, november, 2007 as well |
| 06:07.51 | Sky2042 | oh, yeah, kd3, that was definitely about the right time for tooltip. |
| 06:08.27 | Sky2042 | july was prolly when foxbot and laurlybot came online. |
| 06:09.35 | Sky2042 | i wonder where he images from dec 07 came from... :/ stuff for patch 2.4 or somethin? |
| 06:09.51 | Sky2042 | s/dec/nov |
| 06:10.01 | kd3 | couldn't have been... that stuff started showing up in feb when we got the first PTR build |
| 06:10.26 | Sky2042 | 2.3 came out when? |
| 06:10.44 | kd3 | november |
| 06:10.57 | kd3 | 13th |
| 06:11.18 | Sky2042 | bing |
| 06:11.23 | Sky2042 | what was in 2.3? |
| 06:11.39 | kd3 | za. all of the raid drops from there tend to have images of the model iirc |
| 06:11.53 | Sky2042 | as well as new icons |
| 06:13.11 | DuTempete | grrr... I'm trying something a little different with the navigation arrows, but it's not playing nicely :( |
| 06:13.28 | DuTempete | want to do white arrows on blue background with a white box around it |
| 06:13.36 | DuTempete | and the border isn't even showing up, the bastard |
| 06:15.07 | DuTempete | nm fixed the broder |
| 06:27.00 | Adys | mooooooooore |
| 06:27.02 | Adys | ning ! |
| 06:27.18 | DuTempete | hrmm... is there a vertical alignment property in CSS? |
| 06:27.23 | Adys | Nope |
| 06:27.52 | Adys | change the vertical position with top: and bottom: |
| 06:27.55 | Adys | but nothing else |
| 06:29.06 | DuTempete | grr |
| 06:29.14 | Sky2042 | BAM |
| 06:29.21 | DuTempete | it's changing the position of the background and border, but not the text, Adys |
| 06:29.43 | Sky2042 | vertical-align: top |
| 06:29.50 | Sky2042 | or bottom, i think. |
| 06:29.55 | Adys | the text? |
| 06:30.07 | Adys | watcha trying to modify |
| 06:30.22 | Adys | (SOMEONE ARCHIVED THE PUMP YAAAAYYY) |
| 06:30.34 | DuTempete | the navigation arrows in the monaco skin we're working on |
| 06:31.04 | DuTempete | can't use relative positioning, since I wouldn't be able to get them all to behave the same |
| 06:31.05 | Adys | hmm |
| 06:31.09 | DuTempete | it's absolute |
| 06:31.22 | Adys | can you send me a screenshot? |
| 06:31.47 | DuTempete | lemme try a couple more things, and then I'll upload a screenie to the website |
| 06:31.52 | Adys | okie |
| 06:31.55 | Adys | rebooting meanwhile |
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| 06:39.53 | DuTempete | I got it, Adys, nm :P |
| 06:40.00 | Adys | pft =P |
| 06:40.04 | DuTempete | never used line-height before, but itworked :P |
| 06:40.13 | DuTempete | thank you for offering :P |
| 06:40.40 | Adys | imma op you :( |
| 06:46.09 | DuTempete | lol why? |
| 06:46.26 | DuTempete | oh, because you're mad at me for doing it without you, adys? |
| 06:46.34 | Adys | yes :( :( :( :( :( |
| 06:46.46 | Adys | no im just bored and woke up very recently |
| 06:46.58 | Sky2042 | Adys: if you're bored, http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/BigfatbitchangelabeesleybecausesheblockedAssaultheadforeverillegally |
| 06:47.05 | Sky2042 | go go go |
| 06:50.26 | DuTempete | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Monacocharcoaltest3.png |
| 06:50.45 | DuTempete | Adys, Sky2042, kd3, Dotted ^ link |
| 06:51.23 | Adys | tabs still look ugly tbh |
| 06:51.24 | Sky2042 | dunno about the arrows, but the rest looks snazzy |
| 06:51.29 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 06:51.56 | DuTempete | tabs? |
| 06:52.03 | Adys | userpage/disc |
| 06:52.06 | DuTempete | yea |
| 06:52.12 | Adys | btw, dotted border for the arrows is kinda ugly, try a solid border |
| 06:52.21 | DuTempete | too bold |
| 06:52.27 | Adys | wut |
| 06:52.34 | DuTempete | looks worse :P |
| 06:52.42 | Adys | darker color |
| 06:52.42 | DuTempete | I'm just trying to break up that box a little |
| 06:52.50 | Adys | what's the current color? |
| 06:52.51 | DuTempete | ok, I'll try solid, then :P |
| 06:52.54 | DuTempete | #CCC |
| 06:53.01 | DuTempete | text colour is #EEE |
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| 06:53.09 | Adys | try 1px solid #777 |
| 06:53.23 | DuTempete | kks |
| 06:55.16 | Sky2042 | maybe keep the blue out of the widget colors... i'm not real sure we want it everywhere. |
| 06:55.52 | Adys | looks fine like that imo, but id rather keep it out of the tabdiv |
| 06:56.04 | Adys | Probably would go for #333 for tabdiv bg |
| 06:56.12 | p30n | so seriously now guys, WotLK before xmas or like way before xmas ? |
| 06:56.21 | Sky2042 | after |
| 06:56.42 | DuTempete | ok Adys, look now |
| 06:56.42 | p30n | you really think so ? |
| 06:57.02 | Adys | closed beta in july, public beta in oct, wotlk in jan |
| 06:57.09 | p30n | Adys: thx |
| 06:57.11 | Adys | DuTempete: one sec, putting back the skin :P |
| 06:57.21 | Sky2042 | what adys said. |
| 06:57.52 | Sky2042 | though i think i'd call it june for closed beta and early oct late sep for public |
| 06:58.28 | Sky2042 | btw, DuTempete, http://xhtml.com/en/css/reference/ |
| 06:58.38 | Adys | google does wonders doesnt it |
| 06:58.53 | Sky2042 | Adys: yeah, i did do that before i bookmarked it. LO |
| 06:58.56 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 06:59.04 | p30n | do u think they gonna make a lol-contest for anyone to go on closed beta? |
| 06:59.15 | Adys | DuTempete: arrow looks good imo |
| 06:59.23 | p30n | i think veteran players and account holders should get some kinda priority... |
| 06:59.31 | DuTempete | Sky2042 I use a different reference, but thanks |
| 06:59.31 | p30n | but thats maybe wishfull thinking |
| 06:59.34 | Sky2042 | hehe |
| 06:59.44 | DuTempete | I use w3schools |
| 06:59.45 | Sky2042 | p30n: exactly that. |
| 06:59.50 | Sky2042 | eh, it works. |
| 06:59.54 | p30n | Sky2042: contest crap? |
| 07:00.04 | Sky2042 | no, wishful thinking |
| 07:00.08 | p30n | yea.. |
| 07:00.13 | p30n | qq |
| 07:01.06 | DuTempete | would be nice if Blizz gave us a copy or two of wotlk for a contest |
| 07:01.28 | Sky2042 | actually, Du, I think w3c runs that site, but i might be missing something. |
| 07:01.29 | DuTempete | now that we're official and all :P |
| 07:01.38 | Sky2042 | nope, nvm |
| 07:01.44 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 07:01.56 | Adys | DuTempete: who knows :) |
| 07:02.58 | DuTempete | Well, i tried a border on the #page_bar but those tabs are just done with backgrounds and positioning on the same bar. I would have to move their z-index, I think, to keep the broder from going over the tabs |
| 07:03.12 | Sky2042 | lol, blockquote was used to increase margin width |
| 07:03.14 | Sky2042 | is boggled. |
| 07:03.22 | DuTempete | what? where? |
| 07:03.45 | Sky2042 | http://xhtml.com/en/css/css-and-accessibility/ says so. |
| 07:03.50 | Adys | DuTempete: change #page_bar and #search_box to #222222 and tell me watcha thinkl |
| 07:03.53 | Sky2042 | validity = unknown. |
| 07:04.00 | Adys | i just tried it it looks good |
| 07:04.21 | DuTempete | oh, their original colour is the same background as the wikia header |
| 07:04.22 | Adys | DuTempete: border never affect internal objects btw |
| 07:04.39 | DuTempete | #2f2f2f with Kirk's diagonal pinstripe background |
| 07:04.43 | Adys | borders are always square, eventually rounded if -moz is present |
| 07:04.52 | DuTempete | I'm not talking about shape |
| 07:04.57 | Adys | oh ok |
| 07:05.01 | DuTempete | just that the border shows up over the bottom of the tabs |
| 07:05.09 | Adys | well |
| 07:05.12 | Adys | hold n |
| 07:05.13 | Adys | on |
| 07:05.15 | DuTempete | because the tabs are iwithin the element |
| 07:06.01 | DuTempete | I think it looks worse with black in the background up there, but I'll give you a screenshot |
| 07:06.11 | Adys | DuTempete: http://86.205.211.132/new |
| 07:06.19 | Adys | have a look how i do the tab |
| 07:06.50 | DuTempete | actually, adys, use http://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/images/7/7d/Background.gif for the background image on those bars |
| 07:07.00 | DuTempete | don't forget to set it to repeat, and then tell me what you think |
| 07:07.22 | Adys | Looks, uh |
| 07:07.24 | Adys | transparent. |
| 07:07.48 | Adys | doesnt look bad but i think a solid color would be better, a shape at best |
| 07:07.55 | Adys | er |
| 07:08.03 | DuTempete | transparent? |
| 07:08.10 | Adys | ye |
| 07:08.20 | DuTempete | ack... should be George's pinstripe, I though |
| 07:08.29 | Adys | no, it is the stripe |
| 07:08.36 | Adys | but it looks transparent because it is the stripe :P |
| 07:08.41 | DuTempete | oh, I see |
| 07:08.50 | DuTempete | set the colour to #2f2f2f |
| 07:09.39 | DuTempete | I don't see any round tabs, Adys :P |
| 07:10.00 | Adys | im not talking about shape :P |
| 07:10.04 | Adys | just look how i do the tab |
| 07:10.09 | Adys | 2f looks a bit too close to the current color imo |
| 07:10.15 | Adys | try 28 |
| 07:10.18 | Adys | looks better |
| 07:11.06 | DuTempete | 2f is what's already being used on the page |
| 07:11.28 | Sky2042 | http://xhtml.com/en/web-standards/css-naked-day/ |
| 07:11.29 | Sky2042 | o_o |
| 07:13.15 | DuTempete | that frightens me |
| 07:13.25 | Sky2042 | same |
| 07:13.28 | DuTempete | I wouldn't ever want to see a wiki naked |
| 07:13.35 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 07:13.37 | Sky2042 | ^ |
| 07:13.48 | DuTempete | Adys, I don't see a difference between the colours at all |
| 07:14.02 | Adys | I got a good monitor =P |
| 07:14.11 | Adys | hold on |
| 07:14.13 | DuTempete | well you're one of few, sweetie :P |
| 07:14.20 | Adys | whatever :P |
| 07:14.28 | DuTempete | I didn't see a different from having the blue as the colour, either |
| 07:14.35 | Adys | I got eyes |
| 07:14.40 | Adys | try buying some :P |
| 07:14.42 | DuTempete | are they x-ray? |
| 07:14.49 | Adys | dunno found them on ebay |
| 07:14.53 | DuTempete | I have horrid vision |
| 07:15.00 | DuTempete | wtb lasik surgery |
| 07:15.09 | DuTempete | will trade soul |
| 07:16.32 | Adys | ffs |
| 07:16.37 | Adys | where is this border done |
| 07:16.41 | Adys | it looks like a fucking iframe |
| 07:17.23 | Adys | DuTempete: can you find me where the borders of widgets and article are done? |
| 07:17.33 | Adys | (its not .widget border btw, thats another, they both got two) |
| 07:17.43 | DuTempete | lol i seriously doubt it's an iframe |
| 07:18.11 | Adys | yah |
| 07:18.14 | Adys | but it looks like one |
| 07:18.17 | DuTempete | I think it's just positioned text w/in the same line as edit/history etc |
| 07:18.18 | Adys | i didnt say it was one |
| 07:18.28 | DuTempete | such as my arrows are done |
| 07:19.16 | DuTempete | which would explain why my border-bottom went on top of them |
| 07:19.39 | DuTempete | .widget { |
| 07:19.39 | DuTempete | background-color: #AAA; |
| 07:19.39 | DuTempete | border-color: #666; |
| 07:19.39 | DuTempete | } |
| 07:19.41 | DuTempete | I think |
| 07:19.53 | Cairenn | DuTempete: just rejoin, please :) |
| 07:20.05 | DuTempete | rejoin? |
| 07:20.18 | Adys | #wowi-lounge |
| 07:20.21 | Cairenn | yep |
| 07:20.44 | DuTempete | why the name change, Cairenn? |
| 07:20.51 | Cairenn | (as I'm seeing people active, I'm moving them over) |
| 07:21.00 | DuTempete | thanks for letting me know, though :P I wouldn't have noticed :P |
| 07:21.02 | Adys | In order to be more inclusive, we've moved to #WoWUIDev. You don't have to change your login script, /join #wowi-lounge will still work, it'll just auto-forward you to here |
| 07:21.40 | DuTempete | more inclusive than what? lol |
| 07:21.44 | Cairenn | (sorry for the interruption in your conversation) |
| 07:21.50 | Adys | #wowi-lounge is a bit site specific |
| 07:21.54 | DuTempete | np Cai :) |
| 07:22.00 | Adys | and no prob :D |
| 07:22.03 | DuTempete | to... wow interface? |
| 07:22.09 | Adys | btw DuTempete try http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/monaco.css |
| 07:22.16 | Cairenn | that is how some people felt, apparently |
| 07:22.21 | Cairenn | shrugs |
| 07:22.23 | kd3 | rolls his eyes |
| 07:22.26 | DuTempete | I didn't even realise, but whatever :P |
| 07:22.33 | Adys | steals kd3's eyes and sells them on ebay |
| 07:23.09 | Adys | i dont know wtf is up with #wikia_page |
| 07:23.15 | Adys | but the borders look awful |
| 07:23.19 | DuTempete | oh, that's why I can't tell the difference, you got rid of the image |
| 07:23.28 | Adys | >.> |
| 07:23.59 | DuTempete | I left the pinstripe :P |
| 07:24.12 | Adys | It looks way too transparent tbh |
| 07:24.15 | DuTempete | I'm not fond of solid |
| 07:24.22 | Sky2042 | kill image! |
| 07:24.23 | DuTempete | it isn't transparent |
| 07:24.24 | Sky2042 | rawr |
| 07:24.27 | DuTempete | I don't know what you're talking about |
| 07:24.42 | Adys | The same pinstripe is used in the background of the page itself |
| 07:25.03 | Adys | its an error to have a page image background repeated into child elements |
| 07:25.08 | Adys | unless you want them to look transparent |
| 07:25.16 | Adys | css hack class 1 :) |
| 07:27.41 | DuTempete | lol |
| 07:28.14 | DuTempete | shouldn't the page background be that grey? and the pinstripe in the ehader be on top of it? |
| 07:28.22 | DuTempete | that seems silly having it the other way around |
| 07:28.35 | Adys | page background is everywhere |
| 07:28.44 | Adys | whether you want to keep it that way isnt my decision |
| 07:28.53 | Adys | I dont mind it |
| 07:29.47 | DuTempete | lol that's not what I'm talking about :P |
| 07:29.55 | DuTempete | I don't think :P |
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| 07:30.24 | DuTempete | oh, oh, nm |
| 07:30.40 | DuTempete | I see it's all the pinstripe, the grey is just a bar that goes through the top |
| 07:30.59 | DuTempete | well it's the bar that goes through there that gets in the way |
| 07:31.20 | DuTempete | you can't transparent through it, can you? And some browsers won't support that |
| 07:33.00 | Adys | DuTempete: http://86.205.211.132/~adys/blah.png |
| 07:33.08 | Adys | No you cant |
| 07:33.29 | Adys | thats why simple css workaround is to make the object have the same bg as the parent |
| 07:33.35 | Adys | its THAT simple =P |
| 07:33.55 | DuTempete | yeah, that's what I'ms aying :P |
| 07:34.05 | DuTempete | and they aren't objects, they're elements :P |
| 07:34.47 | Adys | elements and objects are the same thing :) |
| 07:35.07 | Sky2042 | Adys: q: what exactly does !important do in css? specifically in reference to { display: none !important; } |
| 07:35.22 | Adys | it forces overwrite on a precedent statement |
| 07:36.57 | Sky2042 | do some of those have !important in the base code already, and you're just overriding? |
| 07:37.03 | DuTempete | what are you trying to show me? |
| 07:37.10 | Adys | DuTempete: The background |
| 07:37.24 | Adys | yeah Sky2042 its just to avoid having to bother with some stuff |
| 07:37.27 | DuTempete | yes, I already know about that :P |
| 07:37.31 | Adys | i gotta cleanup some stuff ill brb |
| 07:37.34 | DuTempete | I corrected myself :P |
| 07:44.49 | Sky2042 | Adys: you are awesome. |
| 07:44.56 | Adys | sup |
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| 07:45.42 | Sky2042 | your css |
| 07:45.49 | Adys | cool |
| 07:48.41 | Sky2042 | sad that the icon had to go. but oh well. |
| 07:48.56 | Sky2042 | it'll be like working on modern on WP |
| 07:49.01 | Sky2042 | in modern |
| 07:49.16 | Sky2042 | kd3: you have a lover. |
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| 07:50.31 | Sky2042 | i wish the rollback message was ajax :/ |
| 07:54.21 | DuTempete | oooooh who is kd3's lover?!?! |
| 07:54.42 | Adys | you |
| 07:54.43 | Sky2042 | see RC for the rollback i did on kd3's talk |
| 07:55.40 | DuTempete | ewwwww no |
| 07:55.48 | DuTempete | not me |
| 07:55.49 | DuTempete | ewwwww |
| 07:58.02 | DuTempete | grrrrrr~~~~~!!!!!!! |
| 07:58.10 | DuTempete | fuckin' tabs are pissing me off! |
| 07:58.14 | DuTempete | rawr! |
| 07:58.34 | DuTempete | smashes something pretty to bits. |
| 07:59.47 | Adys | gets smashed |
| 08:00.21 | Sky2042 | Adys: you're not. |
| 08:00.53 | DuTempete | oh crap |
| 08:01.00 | DuTempete | I just hid my buttons :P |
| 08:01.13 | Sky2042 | that's bad. |
| 08:01.15 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 08:01.20 | DuTempete | Adys, would you give me the link to edit my page, please? :P |
| 08:01.32 | DuTempete | hehe I'm playing with z-index :P |
| 08:01.41 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:DuTempete/monaco.css&action=edit |
| 08:01.47 | DuTempete | thank you :P |
| 08:02.52 | Adys | lol |
| 08:03.16 | DuTempete | oh, and Adys, I just found out how they did the border |
| 08:03.20 | DuTempete | it isnt a border :P |
| 08:03.29 | DuTempete | it's a solid field |
| 08:03.50 | DuTempete | well, maybe the edge is a border, but it isn't on the element we think it is |
| 08:03.55 | Adys | erm |
| 08:04.01 | Adys | i just wanna know WHERE its done |
| 08:04.06 | Adys | how isnt a problem |
| 08:04.17 | DuTempete | I don't think we have any of the ids for that |
| 08:04.26 | DuTempete | we would have to ask Kirk to get them from Christian |
| 08:04.29 | Adys | gha |
| 08:05.03 | DuTempete | see, though? One learns things when one plays with the z-index :P |
| 08:08.01 | Sky2042 | .... |
| 08:12.04 | Sky2042 | one wouldn't have to learn things if wikia did a better job of adapting mediawiki to their purposes. |
| 08:12.04 | Sky2042 | :o |
| 08:12.05 | DuTempete | Ok... so I can see that there's no bottom-border on the tabs, but they keep falling underneat the parent element's border, no matter where I move it |
| 08:12.05 | DuTempete | I think there's another element in ther somewhere that I don't know about |
| 08:12.05 | DuTempete | you think? |
| 08:12.05 | DuTempete | and Sky2042, as far as I know, their Skin dev team consists of one whole person... so it's probably best to give him a little leeway for not knowing everything about Mediawiki :P |
| 08:12.05 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 08:12.05 | Sky2042 | why are we moving to monaco, again? |
| 08:12.05 | Sky2042 | >_< |
| 08:12.05 | DuTempete | hehehe |
| 08:12.05 | DuTempete | because it's sexy |
| 08:12.05 | DuTempete | we like it better than quartz |
| 08:12.05 | Sky2042 | oh yes, because that last is a real reason. |
| 08:12.05 | DuTempete | and it allows use of the widgets and social tools Wikia is rolling out |
| 08:12.05 | Sky2042 | of which i'm not using any but the cool navigation, the languages, and the problem reports... |
| 08:12.05 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 08:12.05 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 08:12.06 | DuTempete | ugh... |
| 08:12.06 | DuTempete | I'm sooo tempted to wake up Kirkburn now |
| 08:12.06 | DuTempete | I'm getting tired |
| 08:13.16 | DuTempete | pretends to miscalculate time difference... |
| 08:20.40 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 08:21.04 | Sky2042 | ah well, good night miscalculating gf of kb. i'm sure he will appreciate it... |
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| 09:03.52 | p30n | from one thing to another (lol) |
| 09:04.01 | p30n | is there a lore channel anywhere ? |
| 09:04.26 | p30n | or where are the keepers of teh lore? :) |
| 09:13.26 | DuTempete | heh they're about p30n |
| 09:14.09 | DuTempete | look up the lore team and drop a message on one of their talk pages |
| 09:14.14 | DuTempete | if you have any issues |
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| 09:19.19 | Jirka | hi |
| 09:20.06 | Jirka | dear, I run a small website, where I would like to post my achievements and my gamers data... is there a way to do so? the api does not look like that... |
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| 09:20.28 | Kalroth | Nein |
| 09:20.49 | Kalroth | You have to save your information in SavedVariables and read the file after logging out |
| 09:20.58 | Kalroth | err |
| 09:21.08 | Jirka | Kalroth, no other way??? that's sad |
| 09:21.08 | Kalroth | I just noticed what channel I was in :P |
| 09:21.21 | Adys | YOU SUCK I BAN YOU KALROTH |
| 09:21.21 | Kalroth | You're talking about ingame or from wiki? |
| 09:21.32 | Jirka | from wiki |
| 09:21.42 | Adys | Jirka: Which achievements? |
| 09:21.43 | Kalroth | Aye, then disregard what I just said, please. :) |
| 09:22.37 | Jirka | I want to like all my properties like char name, strength etc there... |
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| 09:24.29 | Jirka | Kalroth, so there is no way at all? |
| 09:26.10 | Kalroth | I'm not that hip with the wiki API, sorry. I'm pretty sure there's a way somehow, if nothing else then you "only" have to emulate the HTTP calls to do it. :) |
| 09:26.53 | Kalroth | But I'm not 100% sure I understand what you're trying to do |
| 09:27.12 | Kalroth | You want information FROM wiki TO your site? Or FROM your site TO wiki? |
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| 12:19.14 | Fisker- | ooh |
| 12:19.20 | Fisker- | and no redirect on beta.wow-europe.com anymore |
| 12:19.28 | Fisker- | saw what was done there |
| 12:19.29 | Fisker- | :o |
| 12:26.20 | pcj | old |
| 12:27.27 | Fisker- | redirected yesterday |
| 12:27.28 | Fisker- | so fu |
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| 12:34.05 | Fisker- | QQ |
| 12:36.00 | laurly | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.11 | Adys | hex |
| 12:36.18 | Adys | thats 46 |
| 12:37.05 | Adys | or 4006.. where did you grab it from anyway? |
| 12:37.11 | laurly | nope thats 64 |
| 12:37.26 | laurly | 0x40 = 64 |
| 12:37.31 | laurly | or it should anyway |
| 12:37.37 | Adys | 0x40 = 0 but |
| 12:37.42 | Adys | (ok stupid joke) |
| 12:37.59 | laurly | i cant figuer out how to search this crap i dont know what format it is. |
| 12:38.33 | laurly | i did something like this years ago but i cant remember. |
| 12:38.52 | Adys | what are you looking at? what type of data? |
| 12:39.18 | laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/UnitFlag |
| 12:39.35 | Adys | ooh |
| 12:40.12 | Adys | thats 00 04 00 00 |
| 12:40.38 | Adys | so uh, |
| 12:40.47 | laurly | i havent had math in like 20 years. |
| 12:40.54 | Adys | nevermind actually I need sleep >< |
| 12:41.07 | laurly | no sleep until you help me figuer this shit out. |
| 12:42.03 | laurly | ahh wait i think im starting to remember. |
| 12:42.04 | Adys | well |
| 12:42.22 | Adys | bitfields are binary data ususally |
| 12:42.32 | Adys | what does FC equal to? |
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| 12:43.14 | Adys | 94 right |
| 12:44.06 | Adys | so 00 04 00 00 would be none, 4, 0, 0 |
| 12:44.28 | Adys | 00 FC 00 00 would be 0, 7+5+4+3+2, 0, 0 |
| 12:44.32 | laurly | why does FC = 94? |
| 12:44.35 | Adys | etc |
| 12:44.44 | Adys | dunno because i suck at maths probably |
| 12:45.31 | Adys | past the fact that FC equals 252 |
| 12:45.33 | Adys | uhm |
| 12:45.34 | Guardix | 94 decimal = 5E hex |
| 12:45.43 | Adys | yea |
| 12:45.47 | laurly | apears to be totaly lost |
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| 12:46.18 | Adys | laurly, you know bitmasks? |
| 12:46.28 | Adys | i think bitfields are just aggregations of bitmasks |
| 12:46.29 | laurly | not a clue |
| 12:46.37 | Adys | http://guur3k.com/bitmask.php |
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| 12:46.54 | Adys | Im probably totally off slept 2 hours >> |
| 12:46.59 | laurly | i know i did something like this once |
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| 12:49.35 | laurly | cant be bit mask binary is only 1's and 0's whats with 0x0000FC00 |
| 12:53.13 | Adys | laurly: each hex duplet is a bitmask |
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| 12:54.44 | Adys | 0000FC00 is 00 00 FC 00 which is 0 0 252 0 which is 0, 0, 256-4, 0 |
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| 12:55.38 | Dwayne_Bot | hey |
| 12:55.53 | Dwayne_Bot | u guys see the mmo-champ stuff on beta? D: |
| 12:55.56 | Dwayne_Bot | D: |
| 12:56.30 | Adys | no, tell us!?! |
| 12:56.44 | Dwayne_Bot | www.mmo-champion.com |
| 12:56.45 | Dwayne_Bot | lol |
| 12:56.48 | Dwayne_Bot | they're making assumptions |
| 12:56.49 | laurly | http://us2.php.net/language.operators.bitwise i know i have done this before. |
| 12:56.57 | Adys | it was irony |
| 12:57.02 | Dwayne_Bot | ? |
| 12:57.07 | laurly | scratches head wishes she was 20 years younger |
| 12:57.08 | Dwayne_Bot | u mean sarcasm? |
| 12:57.14 | Dwayne_Bot | im confused |
| 12:57.16 | Dwayne_Bot | lol |
| 12:57.36 | Adys | Why can you write "you" properly like everyone.. |
| 12:57.43 | Dwayne_Bot | tired |
| 12:57.50 | Adys | Why did you come in this channel then? |
| 12:57.52 | Dwayne_Bot | eating breakfast |
| 12:58.02 | Dwayne_Bot | typing with 1 hand |
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| 12:58.24 | Adys | Im tired aswell, and i could type with my feet id still write you properly |
| 12:58.32 | Dwayne_Bot | hehe |
| 12:58.44 | Dwayne_Bot | sorry to offend you |
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| 13:02.38 | Adys | http://www.blizzard.com/us/inblizz/fanart/images/screens/ss586.jpg |
| 13:02.47 | Adys | THAT is auberdine/teldrassil |
| 13:03.13 | Adys | wish the game modelers would do more efforts :( |
| 13:03.57 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 13:04.09 | Fisker- | ramp the system requirements up a billion notches |
| 13:04.22 | Fisker- | not to mention that fanart is ugly |
| 13:04.36 | Adys | you're a fucking idiot |
| 13:04.48 | Adys | no offense meant at all etc. |
| 13:05.11 | Fisker- | none taken |
| 13:05.28 | Fisker- | It's like a bum telling bill gates he's a bum |
| 13:05.32 | Adys | How pretty a model is doesnt change how much it consumes, but how much space it eats at best |
| 13:05.45 | Adys | The amount of polygons etc etc change how much it consumes |
| 13:06.29 | Adys | you can make something perfectly awesome with very similar renders |
| 13:06.49 | Fisker- | you cannot make that without upping both the poly count and making shaders |
| 13:06.51 | Fisker- | end of story |
| 13:07.11 | Adys | yes you fucking can blizzard does it fine for tons of models |
| 13:07.41 | Adys | its called texture illusion, giving 3d appearance to a flat surface |
| 13:14.16 | Fisker- | btw noes |
| 13:14.17 | w1sk | I happened to browse some of the fanart last night and though some of it was very very good, and well done. |
| 13:14.23 | Fisker- | you took my voice :( |
| 13:15.24 | Adys | i didnt take your voice |
| 13:16.05 | Adys | someone else removed it probably because he thought you were as much of an useless idiot than i think you are |
| 13:17.51 | pcj | heheheh |
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| 13:31.25 | pcj | kirkburn http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:GS isn't getting updated |
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| 13:32.07 | Fisker- | oh u Adys that means so much coming from you |
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| 13:39.51 | Ose | hey hey |
| 13:40.05 | pcj | -moz-column-count doesn't work in firefox? |
| 13:40.52 | Adys | firefox 3 only i think |
| 13:41.26 | pcj | firefox 3 uses CSS3 right? |
| 13:43.10 | Ose | hmm... somebody explain me the difference between RC patrol and watchdogs? |
| 13:43.25 | pcj | watchdogs is the current group |
| 13:44.55 | pcj | hmm http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/CSS3_Columns#Column_Count_And_Width |
| 13:45.00 | pcj | doesn't seem to be working in Fx 2 |
| 13:45.11 | Adys | yes pcj ff3 = css3 |
| 13:45.30 | pcj | so if it's just ff3 why not use the css3 column-count property |
| 13:46.29 | Adys | hmm |
| 13:46.34 | Adys | good question, never used it |
| 13:46.36 | Adys | lemme ask |
| 13:46.47 | pcj | well adys it's being used in MediaWiki:Common.css |
| 13:46.50 | pcj | that's why i ask |
| 13:51.55 | Adys | [15:51:21] <%Mossop> Adys: Probably nothing. But since column-count has yet to be standardised it is available as -moz-column-count as a clear indication that its implementation is subject to change |
| 13:52.31 | pcj | So it's not actually available starting in 1.5 like it says in the developer docs? |
| 13:52.35 | Fisker- | Btw |
| 13:52.37 | Fisker- | it's Fx |
| 13:52.48 | pcj | no fisker we're talking about final fantasy |
| 13:52.55 | Fisker- | do want |
| 13:53.26 | pcj | oh wait it's column-count that's throwing the error in fx2 |
| 13:53.35 | pcj | i guess -moz-column-count is working fine |
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| 14:00.43 | Fisker- | btw pcj |
| 14:00.58 | pcj | k |
| 14:01.13 | Fisker- | hi |
| 14:01.21 | laurly | adys help damit! |
| 14:01.27 | laurly | this is pissing me off. |
| 14:01.30 | Adys | swrong |
| 14:01.45 | laurly | http://pastebin.com/d6c07d088 doesnt fucking work |
| 14:02.16 | Adys | just a shot in the dark but |
| 14:02.27 | pcj | "fourth" |
| 14:02.28 | Adys | maybe your 0x00.. are being parsed as is? |
| 14:02.40 | Adys | try escaping them |
| 14:02.43 | Adys | or putting them in quotes |
| 14:02.47 | Adys | dunno |
| 14:04.46 | laurly | nope should be first |
| 14:04.53 | Adys | :/ |
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| 14:27.58 | Ose | internal server error :( |
| 14:29.46 | Ose | wakey wakey kirkburn|sleep! |
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| 14:31.34 | Ose | workz! |
| 14:31.57 | Ose | well, 2/3 moves worked before new error |
| 14:32.39 | Kirkburn|sleep | heh |
| 14:32.43 | Kirkburn|sleep | that's the move limiter |
| 14:33.05 | Kirkburn|sleep | You're being throttled, just do mass moved more slowly |
| 14:33.12 | Kirkburn|sleep | *moves |
| 14:36.19 | Ose | :/ |
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| 14:47.39 | Kirkburn|sleep | Ose, better to have move throttling, than replying on the slowness of a move vandal's internet |
| 14:47.42 | Kirkburn|sleep | *relying |
| 14:48.16 | Kirkburn|sleep | I may be able to request unthrottling for certain usergroups (admins, etc, are unaffected) |
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| 14:53.24 | Adys | mornin Kirkburn |
| 14:53.29 | Kirkburn | morning |
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| 15:17.00 | laurly | kicks php |
| 15:17.16 | Adys | pats php "There, there.." |
| 15:17.59 | laurly | kicks it harder |
| 15:18.30 | Adys | leaves php in intimity with laurly, have fun you two |
| 15:24.40 | pcj | holds php down while laurly kicks it |
| 15:28.11 | Adys | grabs php "here" |
| 15:35.29 | pcj | so Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated 40 years ago today |
| 15:38.09 | Adys | yes, you're a few hours late |
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| 15:54.30 | Gourra | hugs Kirkburn |
| 15:54.41 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 15:54.50 | Kirkburn | Fandy bear me to the suggestion :) |
| 15:54.55 | Kirkburn | *beat |
| 16:02.03 | soufron_ | hello |
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| 16:19.46 | Kirkburn | I love the welcome page on Beta 5 :D |
| 16:19.57 | Kirkburn | (Of Firefox) |
| 16:20.05 | Kirkburn | New icon set is pretty good too |
| 16:20.19 | Adys | waits for his version still meh |
| 16:21.17 | Kirkburn | GIANT KILLER ROBOT |
| 16:21.25 | Adys | OH NO |
| 16:21.47 | Kirkburn | I hope he's still sitting in Gran Paradiso park on release :P |
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| 16:25.39 | pcj | pfft all the cool people still use netscape |
| 16:25.50 | Adys | wine needs to fix their shit... |
| 16:26.12 | Adys | wut |
| 16:26.56 | Adys | What the heck |
| 16:34.10 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/post/30759171 |
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| 16:39.37 | Adys | zomg it works |
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| 16:39.42 | Fisker- | nice |
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| 17:36.29 | laurly | finaly only took 5 hours |
| 17:38.50 | Keolah | I hate warlocks. |
| 17:39.02 | Fisker- | I hate warlocks. |
| 17:39.30 | Keolah | By the time you get to level 70, you'd think you'd have learned not to spam fear on humanoids in the middle of crowded areas and aggro everything _else_ in the area and die. ;p |
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| 17:54.37 | w1sk | Warlocks are awesome :-p |
| 17:56.06 | Keolah | When they aren' retarded. |
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| 18:23.06 | Gourra | waagh what happened to the wiki |
| 18:23.53 | Gourra | oh it's Fandyllic setting a new default skin.. |
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| 18:57.37 | Cairenn | does anyone recall who MrUseful belongs to? |
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| 18:58.30 | Adys | Cairenn: Nope, but i think dotted knows |
| 18:58.42 | Cairenn | okay |
| 18:58.51 | Adys | when hes back *shrugs* |
| 18:59.06 | Adys | Btw who's gonna flag this list as incomplete now? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_numbers |
| 18:59.32 | Cairenn | I've temp-banned him in the lounge until his owner can change his pathing, that's why I'm asking |
| 18:59.44 | Adys | Aye cair ill ask him when hes back |
| 19:00.13 | Cairenn | :) |
| 19:02.32 | Polarina | Adys: Consider it done. |
| 19:02.47 | Adys | :D |
| 19:05.03 | Keolah | Ahhhh, it's white! |
| 19:05.04 | Keolah | hides. |
| 19:06.32 | Fisker- | btw |
| 19:06.38 | Adys | no one cares Fisker- |
| 19:06.38 | Fisker- | guild bank login working for any of you others? |
| 19:06.41 | Fisker- | no |
| 19:06.42 | Fisker- | u |
| 19:06.51 | Fisker- | i just keep getting redirected to the login :I |
| 19:06.55 | Adys | oh |
| 19:06.59 | Adys | THAT MUST BE WOTLK |
| 19:06.59 | Fisker- | but if i put https infront it works |
| 19:07.02 | Fisker- | YEAH |
| 19:07.08 | Fisker- | i was trying to HAX THEIR SYSTEMS |
| 19:07.13 | Fisker- | figured that guild bank = wotlk |
| 19:07.45 | Fisker- | of course only a retard would think that |
| 19:07.47 | Fisker- | makes you think Adys |
| 19:08.02 | Adys | you're not very bright are you |
| 19:08.22 | Fisker- | you tell me |
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| 19:08.32 | Fisker- | although what you're usually telling me is usually just confirming yourself |
| 19:10.43 | Adys | Fisker-, the last time i heard someone arguing like that was when i was in primary school at 8 years old |
| 19:10.50 | Adys | if that doesnt make you think sorry for you |
| 19:11.03 | Fisker- | Actually |
| 19:11.11 | Fisker- | the last time you heard that were a couple of minutes ago |
| 19:11.14 | Fisker- | By yourself |
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| 19:11.43 | Fisker- | of course i wouldn't expect a capacity like you to realize that |
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| 19:18.39 | laurly | $sourceflags[$keys[$f]] ok thats ugly |
| 19:18.59 | Adys | php nesting > you |
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| 19:31.56 | winkiller | Adys: decided yet which patches you want? |
| 19:32.03 | Adys | oh |
| 19:32.13 | winkiller | np: Queen - Don't stop me now (looping for an hour now) <3 |
| 19:32.13 | Adys | uhm, upload them all, except the deDE |
| 19:32.18 | winkiller | rofl ok |
| 19:33.00 | Adys | winkiller: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VNMaP9i82w |
| 19:34.11 | winkiller | uploadin |
| 19:35.55 | laurly | hmm i think im getting tired my code comments are getting wakie |
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| 20:06.44 | pcj | hi dutempete :) |
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| 20:08.25 | Kirochi | good morning business |
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| 20:20.26 | Offit | hi folks |
| 20:23.10 | MapMan | http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/1/14/Wowslave.jpg |
| 20:23.11 | MapMan | hi |
| 20:23.17 | MapMan | http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:Didhedropgoodloot.gif |
| 20:35.31 | *** part/#wowwiki Alon (n=Alan@rrcs-71-41-201-18.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 20:52.17 | Adys | Sigh |
| 20:52.45 | Adys | People who think themselves funny by linking random shit in a chan that doesn't give a shit make me lose hope in the most touched parts of humanity |
| 20:52.51 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+b *!*@83.14.173.*] by Adys |
| 20:52.52 | *** kick/#wowwiki [MapMan!n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys] by Adys (Adys) |
| 20:54.02 | Offit | is there a way how to make wowwiki with the old css? I somehow dislike the new appearance |
| 20:54.35 | Adys | try go to the preferences, skin, tick wowwiki |
| 20:55.02 | Kirochi | caytay marrant je trouve |
| 20:55.36 | Bibi | Hey Adys ! |
| 20:55.36 | Adys | t'as un sens de l'humour pire que celui de ballmer |
| 20:55.43 | Adys | what |
| 20:55.47 | Bibi | Tu sais pourquoi les Logitech G15 valent deux fois plus cher en France qu'aux Etats Unis ?????? |
| 20:55.54 | Bibi | PARCE QU'UN CLAVIER AZERTY EN VAUT DEUX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:55.57 | Bibi | MDR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:56.03 | laurly | exit |
| 20:56.06 | Kalroth | sacre bleu! |
| 20:56.09 | Adys | exit. |
| 20:56.10 | Bibi | diantre ! |
| 20:57.38 | Kirochi | castoi.² |
| 20:58.01 | winkiller | I only get 20% of your weird speak |
| 20:58.18 | Adys | its something about outdated keyboard layouts |
| 20:58.24 | Kirochi | the G15 part, I bet |
| 20:58.25 | winkiller | outdated? |
| 20:58.27 | Adys | QZERTY BITCH! |
| 20:58.30 | winkiller | I understood g15 |
| 20:58.34 | Adys | azerty sucks |
| 20:58.40 | Kirochi | qwerty* |
| 20:58.42 | winkiller | french don't have azerty anymore? |
| 20:58.46 | foxlit | http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?videoId=164890 |
| 20:58.47 | Kirochi | yes we do |
| 20:58.49 | Adys | qzerty connard |
| 20:58.58 | winkiller | what does connard mean? |
| 20:59.00 | foxlit | (and click the last video) |
| 20:59.03 | winkiller | I read that often recently |
| 20:59.06 | winkiller | I only knew clochard |
| 20:59.08 | Kirkburn | Adys, please, warn, kick, /then/ ban. |
| 20:59.14 | Kirochi | parle-moi encore une fois comme ça et tu pourras plus jamais mâcher des grandes lèvres |
| 20:59.27 | Adys | sorry kirk, i warned, banned, then kicked |
| 20:59.29 | Kirochi | connard=effin' cunt |
| 20:59.32 | Adys | ill modify my kickban script |
| 20:59.38 | winkiller | oh nice :) |
| 20:59.48 | Kirochi | yep |
| 20:59.52 | Adys | Kirkburn: Seriously did you click those images |
| 20:59.54 | Kirkburn | Kirochi, and watch your language please |
| 21:00.00 | winkiller | Adys: don't forget to please them first |
| 21:00.03 | Kirkburn | Adys, I did not. |
| 21:00.06 | Adys | http://devcub.com/~adys/public/qzerty3 |
| 21:00.10 | Adys | well dont |
| 21:00.13 | winkiller | Adys is nosy! |
| 21:00.14 | Kirochi | sorry, winkiller asked me, shoulda opened a query though |
| 21:00.22 | winkiller | Kirkburn: yeah my bad, sorry |
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| 21:00.28 | foxlit | worst. layout. ever. |
| 21:00.35 | Adys | winkiller, Kirochi, link above |
| 21:00.39 | pcj | Can anyone check to make sure http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Pcj/AJAX_test looks good with JavaScript off? |
| 21:00.40 | winkiller | we have QWERTZ |
| 21:00.45 | foxlit | especially the mess around "m" |
| 21:00.47 | winkiller | also not so much better :P |
| 21:01.01 | Adys | haha i tested that one while i was at teomyr's winkiller |
| 21:01.12 | Adys | fucking hell i thought our @ situation was bad |
| 21:01.16 | winkiller | oh well, it is qwerty + öäü |
| 21:01.19 | Kirochi | j'm'en secoue de tes claviers à la con |
| 21:01.29 | winkiller | azerty is sick with the M |
| 21:01.41 | winkiller | just said "not so bad" too early :D |
| 21:02.16 | winkiller | Adys: 150 mb and the first bunch is up |
| 21:02.32 | Adys | ill grab it later, downloads at full speed atm |
| 21:02.39 | Adys | im not even supposed to be on irc |
| 21:02.41 | winkiller | np |
| 21:02.43 | Kirochi | Kirkburn, Kirkburn, Adys said fuck! |
| 21:02.48 | winkiller | psst, I won't tell |
| 21:03.01 | Adys | IRC alone is eating 800kb per second ^^ |
| 21:03.06 | winkiller | zomg |
| 21:03.12 | winkiller | are you on isdn or what? :P |
| 21:03.22 | Adys | haha |
| 21:03.29 | Adys | no, im just in too many chans |
| 21:03.42 | winkiller | I still don't believe 800 *k*b |
| 21:03.47 | Kirochi | where are you supposed to be anyway? |
| 21:03.55 | winkiller | unless you're doing dcc |
| 21:04.01 | Adys | wanna bet winkiller ? :) |
| 21:04.12 | winkiller | depends on channel |
| 21:04.17 | Adys | I got my bot sending me alot of data through irc too |
| 21:04.23 | Adys | but yeah, #commits, and the wikipedia watch chans |
| 21:04.26 | foxlit | pcj: http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3593/safari002dv1.png |
| 21:04.28 | Adys | are alone eating up half of it probably |
| 21:04.33 | winkiller | #linux on some nets was 10 lines/sec |
| 21:05.09 | Adys | #wikipedia-en made me crash the other day |
| 21:05.09 | winkiller | I hates AJAX |
| 21:05.13 | winkiller | yeah |
| 21:05.13 | Adys | my bot was on record mode |
| 21:05.20 | pcj | Wow, Safari renders TH differently |
| 21:05.25 | Kirochi | managed to shout on an uncyclopedia on my first day there |
| 21:05.33 | Kirochi | uncyc user* |
| 21:05.41 | Kirochi | -user +sysop |
| 21:05.42 | pcj | and apparently doesn't like visibility:collapse on TR ._. |
| 21:06.06 | Kirochi | -shout on +violently threaten and sworn at |
| 21:06.13 | foxlit | So, now, for the interesting question |
| 21:06.16 | winkiller | apache seems to dislike wowwiki.com/%s |
| 21:06.18 | foxlit | Did you read the standards and design to them |
| 21:06.22 | winkiller | lighty has no prob |
| 21:06.25 | foxlit | Or did you make some code and test for firefox? |
| 21:06.28 | winkiller | interesting indeed |
| 21:07.46 | pcj | I made some code using display:table-cell, tested for firefox, found it didn't work on IE, switched to spec, per http://www.w3schools.com/css/pr_class_visibility.asp |
| 21:11.48 | foxlit | Yeah, turns out webkit interprets collapse as hidden |
| 21:12.29 | pcj | nubs |
| 21:13.07 | Kirochi | skins hurt the eyes |
| 21:13.25 | pcj | ur moms skin hurts the eyes |
| 21:13.51 | Kirkburn | Btw, skin change will likely go live on monday morning (UTC) |
| 21:14.24 | Kirochi | In Soviet Russia, eyes of mom hurts YOU!! |
| 21:15.58 | Kirochi | Kirkburn, may we apply some kind of veto? |
| 21:16.18 | Kirochi | or at least manually and individually change displayed skins? |
| 21:16.28 | Kirkburn | There was an accidental test of it earlier, which ... er ... changed everyone to monaco sapphire and made our bandwidth usage spike :P |
| 21:16.41 | DuTempete | omg Kirochi... do you really think they're going to force a skin on you? |
| 21:16.50 | DuTempete | They're just changing the default :P |
| 21:17.19 | DuTempete | Wowwiki will still be avaiable |
| 21:17.41 | Kirkburn | I'll see about preparing more documentation over the weekend |
| 21:17.42 | Kirochi | WoWwiki isn't an absolute dictatorship, but most requests are ignored. |
| 21:17.49 | kd3 | yup |
| 21:18.11 | Kirkburn | Kirochi, heh, I suppose I did write that :P |
| 21:18.46 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Welcome |
| 21:18.56 | Kirochi | I suppose I'm not skilled enough in English for having made this up. |
| 21:20.03 | Kirochi | heh, I got it wrong anyway |
| 21:20.14 | Kirochi | -most requests +many decisions |
| 21:20.28 | Kirochi | my version could have been true though |
| 21:21.03 | winkiller | so this means the unregistered folks will get a new default skin? |
| 21:21.16 | kd3 | it'll be the wowwiki version of monaco |
| 21:21.22 | kd3 | it actually looks pretty good |
| 21:21.27 | winkiller | showee? |
| 21:21.28 | Kirochi | Haha, way to screw up their first taste of fanny |
| 21:21.37 | Kirochi | s/fanny/WoWwiki |
| 21:21.39 | kd3 | check kirk's talk page for instructions |
| 21:22.09 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Kirkburn#Monaco_skin_preview |
| 21:22.45 | Kirkburn | (And remember to delete the stuff once the skin is live) |
| 21:23.11 | Kirkburn | Atm I want to know about any bugs you may see |
| 21:23.14 | winkiller | will use my test acc if I remember my name |
| 21:23.39 | Kirkburn | And any colour tweaks |
| 21:23.42 | Kirochi | EUGH |
| 21:24.08 | Kirochi | I just found a bug, but it took the shape of a seizure in my brains |
| 21:25.28 | pcj | yeah it is pretty terrible isn't it |
| 21:25.44 | Kirochi | ... |
| 21:25.55 | winkiller | ah, not that bad at first glance |
| 21:25.57 | DuTempete | I just added some screenshots of the testing I did last night |
| 21:27.03 | Kirochi | pcj> I was tempted to answer "ur mom", but I'm not allowed to verbally retaliate to your worthless attacks |
| 21:30.58 | Kirochi | Kirkburn, something's brilliant though |
| 21:31.05 | Kirochi | autocomplete in the search bar =) |
| 21:32.10 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 21:32.11 | Kirochi | and the forum |
| 21:32.16 | Kirkburn | Okay, made a fairly obvious change |
| 21:32.22 | Kirkburn | I've removed the light borders |
| 21:32.48 | Kirochi | the whitish thingies? |
| 21:32.54 | Kirochi | they were fair enough to me |
| 21:33.15 | Kirochi | ah well, something gives me intents of murder towards wikia |
| 21:33.25 | Kirochi | foreigner wiki ads:/ |
| 21:33.32 | Kirochi | :-/ |
| 21:33.55 | Kirkburn | spotlights? |
| 21:33.59 | DuTempete | yeah, I didn't find anything entirely wrong with the borders :P |
| 21:34.11 | Kirochi | yep |
| 21:34.44 | Kirochi | I suppose wikia brings more to WoWwiki than it compels us to |
| 21:34.54 | Kirochi | but still they're a pain |
| 21:35.06 | Kirkburn | The spotlights are a pain? o_O |
| 21:35.19 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Nordrassil_Wrath-Mantle |
| 21:35.20 | Kirochi | I got used to wow gold ads, but those are definitely un-WoW related |
| 21:35.21 | foxlit | mwhahaha! |
| 21:35.44 | Kirkburn | Kirochi, no, but they are wiki-related |
| 21:36.03 | kd3 | if you see gold ads, let us know so we can get them filtered out... the spotlights are a necessary evil. they can be tuned out after a while |
| 21:36.09 | Kirochi | Kirkburn> they are ugly and don't melt within the wiki |
| 21:36.17 | foxlit | "This site is experiencing technical difficulties" almost eerie |
| 21:36.53 | Kirochi | heh |
| 21:37.03 | Kirochi | I'm too lazy to turn monaco charcoal off |
| 21:37.05 | Kirkburn | For the border thing, hmm |
| 21:37.14 | Kirochi | seems like I'll be keeping it |
| 21:37.22 | Kirkburn | They annoyed me given how bright they were |
| 21:37.56 | pcj | foxlit say you have a page which transcludes reagentbox outside <onlyinclude> doesn't that count in the post-expansion page size |
| 21:38.06 | Kirochi | well, I guess color isn't the hardest parameter to change on a wiki |
| 21:38.11 | pcj | or is it pre-expansion w/e |
| 21:38.12 | foxlit | no |
| 21:38.21 | foxlit | Only post expansion transcludes count in the post-expansion page size |
| 21:38.33 | foxlit | I assume |
| 21:38.35 | pcj | hmmm |
| 21:38.38 | Kirochi | # |
| 21:38.38 | Kirochi | PvP Honor Farming |
| 21:38.38 | Kirochi | 5 Piece Gladiator Armor Sets $100 5/5 Armor and 2 Weapons |
| 21:38.38 | Kirochi | www.EliteAccounts.com |
| 21:38.50 | DuTempete | well, I still find that pale yellow ugly :P sorry, Sugar ;) |
| 21:38.56 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 21:38.59 | Kirkburn | Kirochi, been reported |
| 21:39.47 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Nordrassil_Regalia |
| 21:39.54 | foxlit | evil cat can has evilz? |
| 21:40.32 | Kirkburn | I've brightened the border up again ... not to the same extent it was, but enough to show the edge well |
| 21:40.47 | Kirochi | # |
| 21:40.47 | Kirochi | Get W.o.W. Gladiator Gear |
| 21:40.47 | Kirochi | with English Speaking Pro-Gamers Get Great Epic Gear and Weapons |
| 21:40.47 | Kirochi | www.mogmine.com |
| 21:41.06 | DuTempete | much better... what is that? #666? |
| 21:41.10 | Kirkburn | Aye |
| 21:41.27 | Kirochi | I agree, though lighter wouldn't be too bad |
| 21:41.32 | DuTempete | which element are you fiddling with? |
| 21:41.45 | DuTempete | Adys and I were trying to figure that out last night |
| 21:42.01 | Kirkburn | http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/5132/ :P |
| 21:42.15 | Kirkburn | That is the background of the widget, apparently |
| 21:42.28 | DuTempete | yeah |
| 21:42.32 | Kirochi | ... |
| 21:42.34 | DuTempete | that's what I thought |
| 21:42.45 | Kirochi | now I see what websites you lurk on, I have much to forgive you |
| 21:42.46 | Adys | wut |
| 21:43.00 | DuTempete | it's the background, Adys :P |
| 21:43.03 | Adys | [23:42:03] <@Kirkburn> http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/5132/ :P |
| 21:43.04 | Adys | [23:42:16] <@Kirkburn> That is the background of the widget, apparently |
| 21:43.09 | Adys | is this unrelated or did i miss a step |
| 21:43.16 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 21:43.16 | DuTempete | scroll a bit further up :P |
| 21:43.28 | Adys | ook |
| 21:43.35 | DuTempete | we're talking about the borders |
| 21:43.49 | Adys | figures |
| 21:43.53 | Adys | goes back to coding |
| 21:43.53 | DuTempete | remember how I accidently dropped the tabs to the back of the page? |
| 21:43.57 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 21:43.57 | pcj | wait what does jesus have to do with borders |
| 21:44.11 | Adys | its BORDERLINE UNRELATED |
| 21:44.14 | Adys | see what i did there |
| 21:44.16 | DuTempete | hahaha |
| 21:44.24 | DuTempete | punny |
| 21:44.25 | kd3 | lmao |
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| 21:45.04 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Sky2042] by ChanServ |
| 21:45.07 | DuTempete | Yeah, Kirkburn, last night I had to ask kd3 to give me my edit url because I had accidently dropped the page bar underneath the background :P |
| 21:45.22 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 21:45.29 | DuTempete | that's when I realised the borders were actually background :P |
| 21:46.32 | Adys | freakin hell xml is so unintuitive to parse with minidom |
| 21:46.56 | DuTempete | I was trying to do some bordering with the tabs, but I couldn't get the selected tab to lose the bottom border |
| 21:47.10 | DuTempete | I even tried z-index, and couldn't get it above the border |
| 21:48.11 | pcj | nub |
| 21:48.29 | DuTempete | bite me |
| 21:48.38 | pcj | rawr |
| 21:48.43 | Kirkburn | Switched to blue widget titles |
| 21:49.04 | Sky2042 | ack. |
| 21:49.05 | Kirkburn | You can only z-index stuff that has a position: |
| 21:49.34 | Sky2042 | shoots kirkburn. it must have been him. |
| 21:49.41 | Kirkburn | Sky? |
| 21:50.00 | Sky2042 | nothing atm. verifying claim that it was you. |
| 21:50.05 | Sky2042 | ;) |
| 21:50.31 | DuTempete | lol yes, I know that, Kirkburn :P |
| 21:51.19 | Kirkburn | DuTempete, just checking :) |
| 21:51.35 | DuTempete | I wouldn't have been able to get it to fall behind the background if I didn't :P |
| 21:51.40 | Kirochi | les vieuuuux ne parlent pluuuuus |
| 21:52.00 | DuTempete | smacks Kirochi |
| 21:53.32 | DuTempete | We need one of those old-fashioned "NEW and improved!" images for the site notice on Monday, Kirkburn |
| 21:53.42 | Kirkburn | lol |
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| 21:54.32 | DuTempete | ok, I need to go do some dog training |
| 21:54.39 | DuTempete | so, afkish |
| 21:54.46 | Sky2042 | DuTempete: Kirkburn's not at your place... |
| 21:54.55 | Adys | anyone here uses dom parsing? |
| 21:54.55 | AFKTempete | Oh, him I can train via internet |
| 21:55.08 | AFKTempete | I'm talking about my dad's puppy, though :P |
| 21:55.11 | Sky2042 | ;p |
| 21:55.27 | Adys | AFKTempete: if i werent busy coding id do a very gross joke right now |
| 21:55.31 | Kirkburn | cheek |
| 21:55.37 | AFKTempete | and cheeky too! |
| 21:55.38 | Sky2042 | ^^ |
| 21:55.49 | Kirkburn | Indeed |
| 21:55.49 | Jinivus | is hungry. |
| 21:57.00 | Kirkburn | It's nice having all the relevant skin css there to tweak :) |
| 21:58.18 | Kirochi | AFKTempete, how the heck did you figure out what I meant? |
| 21:58.46 | Kirochi | HAHAHA |
| 21:58.49 | Sky2042 | she guessed? |
| 21:58.50 | AFKTempete | You aren't the only English-speaker who also knows some French. |
| 21:59.04 | Adys | Hehehehehehehehehe. |
| 21:59.09 | kd3 | kicks the wiki |
| 21:59.09 | Kirochi | A Facebook quiz: Who is more naturally talented ? |
| 21:59.55 | kd3 | kirkburn; can you bump up the <small> size? http://www.wowwiki.com/Smith_Hauthaa 's title looks a little too small |
| 21:59.55 | Kirochi | my choice has to go between a girl friend of mine, brilliant girl, doctor-to-be, and... |
| 21:59.56 | Kirochi | Adys |
| 21:59.58 | Kirochi | HAHAHA |
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| 22:02.52 | Kirkburn | kd3, that's smaller than normal? |
| 22:03.28 | kd3 | waits for the wiki to load so he can compare it to the old skin... |
| 22:03.59 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: also, does http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Title have a big old lot of space underneath the Cats box? |
| 22:04.27 | Kirkburn | <small> hasn't been defined in the skin |
| 22:04.43 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, it does indeed |
| 22:04.55 | Sky2042 | where'd it come from? |
| 22:04.56 | Sky2042 | :o |
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| 22:06.12 | Kirkburn | no idea |
| 22:06.31 | Kirkburn | perhaps the article is too short? |
| 22:06.40 | Sky2042 | hmm |
| 22:06.51 | kd3 | kirk; compare to: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Smith_Hauthaa&useskin=wowwiki |
| 22:07.06 | Kirochi | Kirkburn, my question might be dumber than dumb, but how do you make an automatic contribs counter? |
| 22:07.40 | Sky2042 | Kirochi: go to special:preferences. |
| 22:07.43 | Sky2042 | :] |
| 22:07.51 | Kirkburn | looks like wowwiki.css did define it as bigger then |
| 22:07.57 | Kirkburn | will take a look |
| 22:08.37 | Kirochi | which tab? |
| 22:08.43 | Sky2042 | the first one. |
| 22:08.59 | kd3 | right below "User ID" |
| 22:09.25 | Kirochi | oO |
| 22:09.28 | Kirochi | well thanls |
| 22:09.31 | Kirochi | thanks |
| 22:09.34 | Sky2042 | np |
| 22:09.48 | Kirochi | doh |
| 22:10.15 | Kirochi | I kept on creating customized contribs pages to exactly know how many I had |
| 22:10.22 | Sky2042 | heh. |
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| 22:11.04 | pucko | why does wowwiki look like a mess now? |
| 22:11.23 | kd3 | shift+reload |
| 22:11.33 | Adys | What should I say to someone whom I ask "How are you" and who answers "Not too shaggy"? |
| 22:12.07 | Sky2042 | Kirochi: or use Template:User Editcount, which is automatically updated by Foxbot. |
| 22:12.15 | MentalPower | Adys: got a new brush? |
| 22:12.18 | winkiller | maybe he meant shabby |
| 22:12.21 | MentalPower | idk :P |
| 22:12.25 | winkiller | or he loves scooby snacks |
| 22:12.39 | Adys | no i think he meant shabby too |
| 22:12.43 | Adys | just dunno how to explain |
| 22:13.44 | pucko | kd3: worked thanks. |
| 22:14.17 | Kirochi | Sky2042> dat means I'm bound to see my user page edited by a bot, too often to have a rest but too few times to see it updated every time I wanna know my contribs? |
| 22:14.40 | Sky2042 | Kirochi: what i did was put it on a subpage and then transcluded the subpage to my main page |
| 22:15.15 | Kirochi | I thought I was going to be flamed for creating a transcluded page just for a template |
| 22:15.17 | Kirochi | oh anyway |
| 22:15.28 | Kirochi | I'll stick with the counter in preferences |
| 22:15.37 | kd3 | meh... that's what [[User:Kaydeethree/ec]] is |
| 22:15.45 | Kirochi | It's still way better than counting manually |
| 22:16.30 | Kirochi | there must be some way out of here |
| 22:17.09 | Adys | ok now hes telling me to eat <inset list of greek foods>, and some "suzuki" too :( |
| 22:17.42 | MentalPower | Are the Youtube links on http://www.wowwiki.com/Lament_of_the_Highborne not working for anyone else? |
| 22:18.31 | Kirkburn | kd3, though it pains me ... fixed small |
| 22:18.39 | kd3 | mp: the two links at the bottom of the page wfm |
| 22:18.46 | Adys | MentalPower: not working here either |
| 22:18.54 | Adys | and i give up with this dumb parsing |
| 22:18.56 | Kirkburn | pucko, how do you mean? |
| 22:19.05 | Kirkburn | What was it looking like? |
| 22:19.12 | MentalPower | kd3: I know of the links, but the in-page player is not working |
| 22:19.19 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: though it pains you? |
| 22:19.22 | kd3 | ah, those |
| 22:19.30 | kd3 | adds another site to his noscript whitelist |
| 22:19.38 | Kirochi | MentalPower> I bet linking youtube wow videos was dumb |
| 22:19.40 | Kirkburn | defining <small> isn't reeeally that nice |
| 22:20.03 | MentalPower | Kirochi: err... its not dumb... |
| 22:20.03 | Kirochi | since we are giving a way to access an in-game feature, for free |
| 22:20.25 | Kirkburn | MentalPower, done |
| 22:20.44 | MentalPower | ~lart Kirochi |
| 22:20.44 | infobot | forces Kirochi to use Outlook Express |
| 22:20.44 | Adys | defining small is fine if you follow the specs on it |
| 22:20.46 | Kirkburn | Need to use <youtube> now |
| 22:20.47 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: just define it with a percent or em. |
| 22:20.52 | Adys | but on that the specs are DUMB DUMB DUMB |
| 22:20.55 | Kirkburn | 85% |
| 22:21.17 | Kirochi | I hate Outlook |
| 22:21.37 | MentalPower | thats the point of the lart |
| 22:21.40 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: added whitespace issue to your talk page. |
| 22:21.56 | Adys | ~lart MentalPower |
| 22:21.56 | infobot | plops MentalPower into a giant vat of herring |
| 22:22.15 | Adys | works both ways |
| 22:24.00 | MentalPower | Kirkburn: any way to eliminate the white border around the vids? |
| 22:24.56 | Kirkburn | MentalPower, not without defining the width and height exactly, unfortunately |
| 22:25.10 | MentalPower | aren't all youtube vids the same size? |
| 22:25.44 | Kirkburn | yeah, don't ask me why the extension uses the wrong ratio |
| 22:25.53 | MentalPower | ah, k |
| 22:25.55 | MentalPower | nm then |
| 22:26.19 | Kirkburn | I'll come back to it in a sec, see if I can do something about it |
| 22:26.39 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: on image pages, the meta-content box is showing up in white: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Caelestrasz.jpg |
| 22:26.56 | Kirkburn | Correct ratio is about 350 width to 294 height |
| 22:27.34 | MentalPower | Sky2042: no its not |
| 22:27.40 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 22:27.44 | Sky2042 | oh boy |
| 22:27.58 | Sky2042 | the box at the bottom doesn't show up in white for you, mp? |
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| 22:28.02 | MentalPower | nop |
| 22:28.04 | MentalPower | gray |
| 22:28.10 | MentalPower | with white letters |
| 22:28.11 | kd3 | yah, I'm seeing it too |
| 22:28.23 | Sky2042 | MentalPower: not the category box. |
| 22:28.27 | Sky2042 | hmm |
| 22:28.38 | Sky2042 | mp, what browser? |
| 22:28.44 | MentalPower | no, the metadata one that you have to open |
| 22:28.45 | foxlit | Hey, Sky! |
| 22:28.45 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Nordrassil_Wrath-Mantle |
| 22:28.50 | MentalPower | FF2 |
| 22:29.02 | Sky2042 | .13 mp? |
| 22:29.05 | Sky2042 | foxlit: ? |
| 22:29.05 | foxlit | Find your favorite template :) |
| 22:29.09 | pcj | final fantasy 3 was so much better |
| 22:29.13 | MentalPower | aye |
| 22:29.32 | Sky2042 | huh |
| 22:29.32 | MentalPower | Firefox 2.0.0.13 |
| 22:29.37 | Sky2042 | wonder what i declared where |
| 22:29.39 | Sky2042 | :/ |
| 22:30.08 | Sky2042 | foxlit: decidely not item, which doesn't even appear there. is there something else you wanted me to see? |
| 22:30.38 | foxlit | Oh, it's there alright |
| 22:31.20 | kd3 | wtf is {{tpl}}? |
| 22:31.23 | Adys | off to bed, have fun |
| 22:31.25 | pcj | wtf isn't tpl |
| 22:31.42 | Sky2042 | foxlit: explain yourself. |
| 22:31.51 | foxlit | Sky: ask a question. |
| 22:31.59 | pcj | item is used on http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Nordrassil_Regalia duh |
| 22:32.04 | Sky2042 | you first, foxlit. |
| 22:32.17 | foxlit | I just wanted to /point and say "neat!" |
| 22:32.23 | pcj | can i ask a question? |
| 22:32.41 | foxlit | If I said no, would we go back in time and erase that one? |
| 22:32.57 | foxlit | [yes, duh!] |
| 22:33.17 | pcj | Oh, just wanted to know if I could ask, didn't really have one |
| 22:33.24 | Kirochi | Avast, ye scallywags! |
| 22:34.03 | foxlit | Sky, in mildly unrelated news, I don't really see the "nightmare" issue either. |
| 22:34.08 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 22:34.11 | foxlit | "List of templates becomes ineffective"? |
| 22:34.14 | foxlit | What the heck for? |
| 22:34.18 | pcj | i see sky found the . key |
| 22:34.20 | Sky2042 | you see no issue with having 20 extra templates at the bottom of the page? |
| 22:34.31 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 22:34.33 | foxlit | If the page actively depends on those templates, I don't. |
| 22:34.39 | pcj | there's no extra templates at the bottom of http://www.wowwiki.com/Nordrassil_Wrath-Mantle |
| 22:34.50 | Kirochi | I lurves pirate skins |
| 22:35.06 | Sky2042 | pcj: t:item isn't used on that page. have a look see to a page which does use it. |
| 22:35.27 | foxlit | [the 20 number is also odd] |
| 22:35.39 | Sky2042 | [in that?] |
| 22:35.48 | pcj | Wow, I only see pages which are directly connected to the page |
| 22:35.50 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, thanks for the meta data spot, correct |
| 22:36.13 | Sky2042 | directly connected is an odd way of putting it. |
| 22:36.28 | pcj | it being a problem is an odd way of putting it |
| 22:36.32 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: "correct? |
| 22:36.34 | Sky2042 | " |
| 22:37.29 | Kirkburn | It is white |
| 22:37.42 | Sky2042 | it hurts my eyes, lengthens pageload time, and makes the list of templates at the bottom unhelpful |
| 22:37.53 | foxlit | Your eyes are not a real concern |
| 22:37.59 | foxlit | It has no effect on pageload time (caches) |
| 22:38.00 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 22:38.11 | foxlit | List of templates at the bottom is unhelpful to begin with. |
| 22:38.26 | Sky2042 | more helpful than if you overload it using item. |
| 22:38.42 | foxlit | At this point, I really see no scenario in which it could be useful |
| 22:38.57 | Sky2042 | oh? |
| 22:39.40 | foxlit | Looking at the set page, I see cost, socket, loot, settip, quality, see also, alsosee, icon-shortcut, gallery, lootbox, lootbox/row, tooltip, icon, blank, Lootbox/Blank, elinks-set, Druid sets, bc-inline, specIcon, !, Alliance Icon Small, Horde Icon Small, Wow-inline |
| 22:39.53 | foxlit | And only item, and the 5 item pages are relevant. |
| 22:40.14 | pcj | The item pages show up anyway right |
| 22:40.19 | Sky2042 | but unnecessary information for that list. if you're editing the page, you already know they're relevant. |
| 22:40.20 | pcj | Without item |
| 22:40.30 | winkiller | I did it! |
| 22:40.39 | winkiller | made a NE hunter named Stereotype |
| 22:40.48 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 22:40.55 | foxlit | pcj: not in the "templates used in this preview" list |
| 22:41.03 | foxlit | But, again, it's not like that is useful |
| 22:42.07 | pcj | Does too foxlit |
| 22:42.09 | pcj | Look at the bottom |
| 22:42.30 | foxlit | pcj: do I have to remove {{item}} from source, then? |
| 22:42.37 | Sky2042 | oh, btw, kirkburn, for whatever reason, i can get the [hide] button for the ToC to show up whenever i'm editing, in case you didn't notice :o |
| 22:42.40 | pcj | What? |
| 22:43.00 | foxlit | (Item pages show up if {{item}} is used, they shouldn't otherwise) |
| 22:43.14 | foxlit | The rest show up regardless |
| 22:43.22 | pcj | They do because Lootbox still includes their tooltips |
| 22:43.32 | foxlit | Good point :) |
| 22:43.40 | Kirkburn | MentalPower|AFK, submitted a ticket about the youtube thing |
| 22:43.47 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, known bug |
| 22:44.15 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: yeah, i know it is. i was just pointing out that the ToC shows up when editing. |
| 22:45.33 | pcj | so...why would i use http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ over firefox |
| 22:46.08 | kd3 | if you liked the all-in-one-ness of netscape back in the day? |
| 22:46.23 | kd3 | that's all my parents use |
| 22:46.28 | pcj | loool |
| 22:46.49 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: as to the whitespace issue, i think i have a faint clue why: the wikia-footer with the rate the article stars and last edited by isn't loading on anything but article pages, i think. |
| 22:47.07 | Sky2042 | yay patterns. |
| 22:48.01 | pcj | yay! |
| 22:48.02 | Kirkburn | (nothing personal ... again) |
| 22:49.00 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, doesn't affect talk page categories though |
| 22:49.10 | Sky2042 | o_o |
| 22:49.27 | Sky2042 | so a namespace css bug, or something? |
| 22:49.28 | Kirkburn | As I said on my talk page, they're exactly the same length |
| 22:49.46 | Kirkburn | So I don't know why you're saying they're not similar |
| 22:49.57 | Kirkburn | To the pixel, they line up (for me) |
| 22:50.12 | Kirkburn | Which suggests to me a minimum page length |
| 22:50.23 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Collapsed_objects_without_autoloaded_data.3F |
| 22:50.26 | pcj | whoops miscopy |
| 22:50.28 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:GS |
| 22:50.33 | pcj | kirkburn WW:GS is broken |
| 22:51.17 | Kirkburn | And you're telling me? |
| 22:51.22 | Kirkburn | Tell the bot owner |
| 22:51.31 | Kirkburn | Which is watchout |
| 22:51.56 | pcj | you said to tell you if 1.12 upgrade caused any issues :P |
| 22:53.01 | Sky2042 | lol |
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| 23:00.48 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, metadata fixed |
| 23:00.54 | Sky2042 | oh good. |
| 23:01.18 | Kirkburn | And what is with the entirely pointless hiding and small text >_< |
| 23:01.45 | Sky2042 | small text?... |
| 23:04.10 | Kirkburn | On the metadata |
| 23:04.12 | Kirkburn | It was tiny |
| 23:04.36 | Sky2042 | because it was metadata |
| 23:04.39 | Sky2042 | that's MW default. |
| 23:04.45 | Sky2042 | the hiding, as well. |
| 23:05.08 | Sky2042 | though i don't know that i'd use the colors you picked :x |
| 23:05.16 | Sky2042 | they were just straight grey in wowwiki, iirc |
| 23:05.41 | Sky2042 | aye |
| 23:24.39 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, I meant, why does MW default to such small sized text there :( |
| 23:24.48 | Kirkburn | Silly defaults |
| 23:24.49 | Sky2042 | don't ask me. |
| 23:24.56 | Sky2042 | less attention-drawing. |
| 23:28.00 | Kirkburn | toc back to normal size |
| 23:28.10 | Sky2042 | cool |
| 23:30.10 | Kirkburn | To think the skin started off at under 12k and is now over 18k |
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| 23:33.24 | rjm | which addon gives fancyshmancy name plates |
| 23:33.32 | *** part/#wowwiki pucko (i=andreas@81-234-246-21-o933.tbon.telia.com) |
| 23:33.55 | Kirkburn | grr, I know this |
| 23:33.58 | kd3 | aloft |
| 23:34.03 | Kirkburn | dammit |
| 23:34.49 | rjm | KIRKBURN FAIL |
| 23:40.06 | Sky2042 | "To think the skin started off at under 12k and is now over 18k" hmm, wonder what that could possibly mean... |
