IRC log for #wowwiki on 20080401

00:01.24pcjheh, make me admin for a day, perfect april fool's prank
00:02.26KirochiHAHAHA
00:02.39Kirochiit's not even funny, it'd be depressing
00:09.08Kirochi# Death of a mayor: In 1998, local WAAF shock jocks Opie and Anthony reported that Boston mayor Thomas Menino had been killed in a car accident. Menino happened to be on a flight at the time, lending credence to the prank as he could not be reached. The rumor spread quickly across the city, eventually causing news stations to issue alerts denying the hoax. The pair were fired shortly thereafter.
00:09.25Kirochihaha
00:09.33Kirochiwhy not pretend Gary Gygax dead?
00:11.33pcjhe didn't?
00:14.27DuTempetelmfao
00:14.31DuTempetethey got fired?!
00:16.43Kirochi# Water on Mars: In 2005 a news story was posted on the official NASA website purporting to have pictures of water on Mars. The picture actually was just a picture of a glass of water on a Mars Candy Bar.[26]
00:19.07Kirochiew, Facebook is infamous for their april fools
00:19.16Kirochiits*
00:22.58Kirkburnpcj, I think your category js is giving IE6 errors
00:23.11pcjuh what is it saying
00:23.22pcjb/c i can't test ie6
00:26.28pcjkirkburn?
00:26.48KirkburnWhat's your email?
00:27.20pcjpcjjenks @ gmail.com
00:31.33pcjthe error isn't attached kirkburn...
00:32.03KirkburnDarn
00:32.50KirkburnLine 36, Char 1, "undefined" is null or not an object, Code 0, Category:Games
00:33.01KirkburnUseless, but that's all it has
00:33.19pcjGoogle ads generate a lot of errors for me
00:33.38pcjSo unless you can prove it isn't them then there's not a whole lot i can do about it
00:35.13pcjActually, I might try one thing
00:35.26pcjBut since IE6 does support getElementsByName() it should work anyway...
00:35.33pcjByTagName*
00:36.37Sky2042Operation April Fool's 2008 has commenced.
00:36.47CharitwoKirkburn: :o
00:37.56kd3`har
00:41.50Kirochihaaa
00:41.53Kirochiclever
00:42.05Kirochi:)
00:42.19Kirochivery nice idea indeed, Kirkburn
00:42.20Kirochi=)
00:42.22Kirochigood night
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00:44.39Kruton_Yessaradoes anyone happen to know the best place to farm shadow motes?
00:44.59kd3the busted manaforge in netherstorm or run circles around oshu'gun in nagrand
00:45.32Kruton_Yessarathanks KD3.. i will check it out
00:50.01pcjkirkburn that script is now as error-free as i could make it
00:50.45Kirkburnyay
00:50.53KirkburnHopefully it'll help :)
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00:55.11Kirkburnoooh, wowwiki on Charcoal ftw
00:55.56KirkburnAnyone who wants to see the new skin, copy http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/monaco.css into your location, and change to monaco sapphire in your prefs
00:55.58`fragILEHow much space is required for the 2.4 patch?
00:56.16Kirkburn`fragILE, I think 300-400 MB
00:56.19`fragILEIt's asking for upwards of 1.8 gb and 75% has already been installed.
00:56.20`fragILEWtf?!
00:56.20pcjover 9000 bytes
00:56.35Kirkburnis that 2.3 to 2.4?
00:56.38`fragILEYes.
00:56.42`fragILE"This disk doesn't have enough free space to install World of Warcraft Update. (More than 1.8 GB is required, but only 1.8 GB is available.) Please free up space."
00:57.07kd3that's probably fallout from the massive data files being copied/rewritten
00:57.10KirkburnPossibly due to how it copies files to change them
00:57.38`fragILEI need to format.
00:57.42`fragILEI'm deleting my Steam folder. XD
00:58.11Kirkburn:(
00:58.20KirkburnMy Steam folder is waaaaay larger than my WoW folder :P
00:58.24`fragILEbb css :(
00:58.24`fragILEYeah.
00:58.31`fragILEMine is 13gb with three games XD
00:59.04kd3whee, my WoW folder's 11 gigs
00:59.10kd3perhaps I should clear out some screenshots
00:59.13Dottedmy Steam folder is 47.5GB
00:59.22`fragILEMy hardrive is split
00:59.25`fragILEIt's shitty
00:59.31Dottedgogo JBOD
00:59.33Sky2042rqv qer   qeqw ff a
00:59.35Sky2042erwq eth ela ue qe
00:59.37Sky2042grrrr
00:59.44kd3home row?
00:59.44`fragILEYou alright?
01:00.07Sky2042eoiwafneamv zvn
01:00.07`fragILEI emptied my recycle bin and it's installing now. XD
01:00.10Sky2042and no, I'm not.
01:00.50KirkburnDotted, dammit ... 44.5 here
01:01.04Dottedwell i just installed Prey
01:01.20KirkburnAnd the SDKs if I saw my notices right?
01:01.47Dottedye
01:01.50Kirkburnhugs Sky2042
01:01.50pcjeww that looks terrible kirkburn
01:01.56Dottedactually
01:02.05Kirkburnpcj, apart from you being a terrible liar ...
01:02.59pcjmaybe you should fix the main page so it isn't ugly during the skin transition process
01:03.22KirkburnSkin isn't final, don't worry
01:03.37KirkburnNeed to go thru merging wowwiki.css stuff anyway
01:04.05KirkburnAtm it loads wowwiki.css then the monaco stuff, which means certain things aren't being used properly
01:04.10pcjYeah, you've been telling me don't worry all along and it still looks like i'll end up using the old wowwiki skin
01:04.38KirkburnWell, what problems are there?
01:05.00pcjThe "More" button where the preferences and special links are blends into the background
01:05.05pcjThe toolbox borders are way too thick and have no color
01:05.48pcjThe menu font seems too bright of a white
01:05.49KirkburnIgnore missing images
01:06.15KirkburnActually, pcj, could you make a page with this stuff?
01:06.22KirkburnI'll chat to the skin guy tomorrow about it
01:06.32Kirkburn(valid concerns btw)
01:07.27pcjWell, aside from the part that I'll probably be hiding the WoWWiki logo myself since that line looks pretty dumb when there aren't any ads there
01:07.51KirkburnThe images missing thing does rather detract from the look, but is only because it's not finished
01:08.05pcjAnd the bottom of pages like Special:Recentchanges is pretty bare
01:08.16Kirkburne.g. our lovely hatched line background is used in several places, really lovely look
01:08.38KirkburnAye, also because something is turned off atm
01:09.17KirkburnPlease please do make a feedback page
01:09.25KirkburnAbout to go to bed, so won't be able to remember everything
01:10.04KirkburnEspecially if you find unskinned areas, really want to know about it
01:10.11pcjHow about I just put it on your talk page
01:10.14KirkburnSure
01:11.31KirkburnOff to bed now
01:11.38DottedKirkburn www.bxd.dk/lulz/steam.png
01:12.05Dotted:(
01:13.01KirkburnOnly cause you bought the Doom pack as well :P
01:13.13Dottedheh
01:13.31KirkburnI'll note you're way more into FPSs than me, apparently
01:14.16Dottedi have C&C3 and First Decade
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01:20.21Kirkburnpcj, are you seeing toc with the wrong blue link colour?
01:20.44pcjugh let me switch back to monaco
01:21.22KirkburnDon't worry too much, I've noted it on http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Kirkburn#Monaco_skin_preview (updated btw)
01:21.30pcjyes definitely
01:21.36pcjit's disgusting
01:21.55KirkburnIt is indeed
01:22.41KirkburnThe "real" skin doesn't have that problem, might just be out of date css
01:22.49KirkburnAnyway, now I really am off
01:36.14Sky2042looks decent in monaco
01:43.50Sky2042pcj: you know of anyway to get rid of the icons which show up on the stuff-bar in monaco, ie, next to "edit", "History"?
01:44.18pcjoh i'm sure it'll be the same way as in the old wowwiki skin
01:44.46Sky2042you'd think, but just looking at the code, there's no specific image those are calling :/
01:44.53Sky2042yay digging.
01:47.03Sky2042unless it's the <li>s?
02:01.42Kirkburn|sleepUK youtube's prank ... click the featured vids on http://uk.youtube.com/
02:03.12Sky2042rickrolls?
02:03.54Sky2042oh yeah.
02:04.21Sky2042well done uk.youtube.
02:07.35Dottedarent rickrolls here
02:08.26Dottedah there
02:13.53DottedKirkburn|sleep
02:14.11Dottedwhy does guildwiki fail more than arickroll?
02:14.15Dottedandswer: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/GuildWiki:April_Fools_2008
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02:37.25bleeterKirkburn|sleep: http://www.google.com.au/intl/en/gday/
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03:39.36kd3oh gah. almost had a heart attack with all of the redlinks
03:40.31kd3curse you adys
03:40.41Adys:P
03:41.07Amarandehey, when did all the links turn red?
03:42.07DottedAdys
03:42.11Adyssup
03:42.32Dottedhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=8583#info tried this :o?
03:43.02kd3gotta figure out how I can put that on the front page somehow...
03:43.08kd3"featured mod" or something to that effect
03:45.16Addybotgg dotted
03:45.21*** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys)
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03:45.24Addybotyou made me crash
03:45.30Dottedagain ;D?
03:45.32Dottedhahaha
03:45.57Adysand i know about this addon since a good week
03:47.21Dottedthen why the hell did you crash?
03:47.38Adysbecause i click links
03:47.43Adysand site with corrupted flash make me crash
03:49.51Dottedpwnt
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03:50.48MentalPowerAdys: where is there flash on this page?
03:50.53Adysad
03:51.10MentalPowerAdys: you can't have known about the addon, since it was written over the weekend
03:51.28Adystalked to guillotine about it :p
03:51.34MentalPowerah, fair nuf
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04:10.59kd3eesh... database went down
04:11.16kd3Can't contact the database server: Unknown error (10.8.2.9)
04:11.26Sky2042:/
04:11.28Sky2042aye
04:11.54Adyshttp://labs.mozilla.com/2008/03/introducing-test-pilot/
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04:52.13Sky2042adys, the switch didn't quite work.
04:52.19Adys?
04:52.30Sky2042go to the talk page of http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest_Line:The_Crown_Of_Will
04:52.46Adys...?
04:53.02Sky2042the link should be blue for the discussion page
04:53.04Sky2042no?
04:53.51Adys#p-cactions li a {
04:53.54Adysill fix it
04:54.21Fisker-what the hell happen?
04:54.41Adysyour mom
04:55.02Fisker-no u
04:55.11Fisker-http://i26.tinypic.com/241muqd.jpg
04:55.14Fisker-:O
04:55.29Adysyour browser sucks
04:55.33Fisker-nah
04:55.51OlisonHi Dotted o/
04:55.54Olison.set feeds
04:55.56Dottedhi Olison
04:56.10Fisker-Dotted
04:56.11DottedFisker-
04:56.26Fisker-Skal jeg forberede mig til eksamen [y/N]?:
04:56.34Dottedenter
04:56.47Fisker-nice
04:58.19Olison.set feeds
04:58.24Olison,--8<-
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04:58.45Dotted2 5 6
04:58.51Adysnihilum still exists?
04:58.54Olison.set feeds 2 5 6
04:59.03Olison.set feeds 2,5,6
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04:59.16Dotted<3
05:00.17Fisker-DO NOT WANT WOR GTFO
05:00.20Fisker-QQ
05:00.50DottedFisker- should die
05:00.58Adysdies Fisker-
05:01.08Dottedin greater curses of agony
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05:11.48Dakovskihello
05:12.03DakovskiI just visited wowwiki
05:12.18Dakovskiit seems to be swapped with guild wiki
05:12.32Dakovskiwhy is it so or is this a hacker's job?
05:12.32Dottedyeah its great isnt it?
05:12.55Dotteddunno
05:13.03Dakovskiwell, how long will it be so
05:14.29Pzyklinks are all red. looks so ugly. =/
05:14.39Pzykprobably until tomorrow
05:14.52Sky2042Dakovski: what is April 1st traditionally known as?
05:15.00Dakovskiah
05:15.00Pzykhalloween!
05:15.04Sky2042^
05:15.12DakovskiI AM a fool
05:15.16Sky2042=]\
05:15.18Sky2042=]
05:15.37Dakovskiit's morning here and I haven't assimilated the date yet
05:15.52Sky2042naturally
05:16.33Dakovskiwell, great joke then
05:16.43DakovskiI wish you a good day
05:16.44DottedFisker- http://news.softpedia.com/news/VIA-039-s-Isaiah-Chip-Takes-the-CPU-Market-by-Force-81637.shtml DO WANT!
05:16.45Dakovskibye
05:18.09Fisker-your mother Dotted
05:18.19Fisker-better go prepare for the exam
05:18.19DottedSRSLY
05:18.21DottedDO WANT
05:18.23Fisker-going in an hour or so
05:18.27Dottedpff
05:18.44Fisker-btw
05:18.52Fisker-guild wars wiki is failwiki
05:18.59Fisker-more like aprils fail joke
05:19.29Sky2042gotta love wikipedia
05:23.03DottedI WANT ISAIAH NAUW
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05:31.51PanSolagah, that's bloody red
05:32.05AdysThe main page theme hurts my eyes
05:32.21Adysshould be using mediawiki.css for this :(
05:32.48PanSolaI think making *everything* red is worse
05:32.57PanSolaI suggest keeping the sidebar blue
05:33.13Adysthe sidebar doesnt have an id though :/
05:33.18Adyscant really do that
05:33.52PanSola.portlet
05:33.53PanSolaclass
05:34.00PanSola.portlet a {
05:34.13Adysoh
05:34.15Pzykdoes guildwiki use red for its links or something?
05:34.24PanSolaGUildWiki use red for broken links
05:34.40Pzyk=/
05:34.43PanSolaalso, I suggest putting the entire main page in a big div with an ID
05:34.55PanSolaand use that ID to style the Main page's content color normally
05:35.08PanSolait's no fun when the main page is red
05:35.16Adysthat didnt work btw pansola
05:35.19PzykI suggest a color that won't eventually kill my eyes
05:35.19PanSolabecause when ppl see GUildWiki stuff, they expect it to be broken
05:35.20PanSolao_O
05:35.23PzykLOL
05:35.53PanSolaadys: .portlet didn't work?
05:35.56Adysnop
05:36.01Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Wowwiki.css
05:36.03Adysfirst lines
05:36.16PanSolaremember you have  !important; on regular links
05:36.25PanSolagotta override !important with another !important
05:36.38Adysyou mean, like Im doing? =P
05:36.43Adys<PROTECTED>
05:36.43Adys<PROTECTED>
05:37.01PanSola"#p-personal a.new .portlet a" you missed a comma
05:37.14Adyswhoops
05:37.57PanSolaalso reforce broken links in portlets to red
05:38.08Adysyou mean the opposite :)
05:38.17Pzykwill a user's css overwrite the theme css?
05:38.21Adysyes
05:38.25Adyswell
05:38.26Adysdepends
05:38.37Pzykergh.
05:38.40DottedFisker- lol check billeder på nyhederne http://newz.dk/google-docs-klar-til-offline-brug
05:38.40PanSolaPzyk: !important rules over non-important
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05:38.49PanSolabut when importance is the same, user overrules site
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05:39.32PanSolaAdys: o_O
05:40.00Adysoh
05:40.03PanSolared stuff: a, #p-personal a.net, .portlet a.new
05:40.18PanSolablue stuff: a.new, .portlet a, #p-personal a
05:40.22AdysYeah, no, forgot the sidebar would be affected too :(
05:40.27Adysfixed it
05:40.56PanSolanow add another one: #Main_Page a    <- blue
05:41.00PanSola#Main_Page a.new <- red
05:41.08Adysnaww =P
05:41.10PanSolathen wrap the main page in a div with id new
05:41.17Adysnon editors wont understand anyway
05:41.53Pzykimo just revert any css changes you guys did in the first place.
05:42.01PanSolalol
05:42.02Sky2042lol
05:42.09Sky2042adys changed the css.
05:42.20Pzykif they were TRUE wow players, they'd never know what guildwiki was anyways
05:42.22AdysI only touched three lines of links :P
05:42.22Pzyk=D
05:42.35Adysswhat I said to pan!
05:43.22Adysadmittedly, its a LOT better on guildwiki :)
05:43.26Adyshttp://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/GuildWiki:April_Fools_2008
05:43.50Pzykwell that's cause our page looks so much better. =P
05:44.01Adyslol
05:44.22Adyswell its also because yellow pink and cyan dont mix well with wowwiki theme
05:44.38Adyspan how did you overwrite regular theme on main page?
05:45.32Adysoh
05:45.36Adysyou changed site theme
05:45.51Adysoh
05:45.52Adysyou didnt.
05:47.19PanSolaAdys: I used javascript to import yoru CSS
05:47.38PanSolahttp://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js
05:47.38Adyscan you link me the snippet?
05:47.40PanSolascroll down
05:47.42Adysthanks :)
05:47.45PanSolaif (wgPageName == "GuildWiki:April_Fools_2008"){
05:47.54PanSolathat's the one that triggers only on that page
05:48.01Sky2042doesn't work on wow, does it?
05:48.01PanSolait depends on functions defined earlier on the same page
05:48.16PanSolayou need createElement()
05:48.25PanSolaand insertExternalCSS()
05:48.37Fisker-ej ffs Dotted
05:48.40PanSolaon the same page too
05:48.43Fisker-nu troede jeg det var en elaborate aprilsnar
05:48.45PanSolaif you copy those over, then it'll work
05:48.49Fisker-spasser
05:48.55Fisker-nu installerede jeg et eller andet klamt google app
05:48.56PanSolayou just have to make sure you insert our CSS
05:49.01Dotted;D
05:49.10PanSolaI can walk you through it
05:49.25AdysCan you link me the mediawiki default css?
05:49.37Adysoh got it :)
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06:00.56DuTempeteGuys... who did what tot he website?  The MP links aren't working anymore
06:01.03DuTempeteerr wiki
06:01.09pcjlol
06:01.12Adyslol
06:01.15straylighttheres an april fools prank going on?
06:01.27DuTempeteyup, straylight
06:01.41DuTempetebut red links aren't part of the joke :P
06:01.55AdysYes they are :P
06:02.02pcjlololol
06:02.41Sky2042they are, quite literally, /red/ links
06:02.43Sky2042:o
06:03.16straylightfor my april fools joke i have rewired all the computer moniotrs in our computer lab to different computers
06:03.23DuTempeteoh I se
06:03.33straylightand the keyboard default language is korean
06:03.36DuTempeteand whose idea was that?
06:03.43straylightmy bosses'
06:03.44AdysMine, since you hate it
06:03.50DuTempetelol
06:04.02Sky2042lol straylight.
06:04.09DuTempetewell, I figure the MP swap with Guildwars was enough :P
06:04.16Adys:P
06:04.25DuTempetebut I do like the idea
06:04.50straylighti like it
06:05.09pcjapril fools' jokes can never go too far
06:05.14AdysIm trying to setup monobook theme on the main page but its not working
06:05.25Adysperhaps we should just embed a rickroll in it
06:05.32Adysoh wait youtube did that
06:05.36Sky2042lol
06:05.44PanSolaoops sorry afk
06:05.54PanSolaI mean I was afk
06:05.57AdysPanSola: its too late now, we are all dead
06:05.58DuTempeteyeah, ok, the red links get obvious when one sees a ToC :P
06:06.05Fisker-failtube is faiiiiiiiil
06:06.08pcjor an external link
06:06.09kd3meh, wtb google updates
06:06.12Adysyour mother is fail
06:06.16DuTempetePanSola, did you do the guildwar's april fools?
06:06.17Adysgoogle updates?
06:06.18kd3though the aussie version is pretty hilarious
06:06.22kd3http://www.google.com.au/intl/en/gday/
06:06.22PanSolaDuTempete: y es I did
06:06.25Adysoh
06:06.36DuTempeteFix ours so the skin looks like yours, too :P
06:06.38Adysshould be launched in a couple of hours
06:06.49Adysyeah its what we've been doing DuTempete
06:06.50DuTempeteKirkburn was being lazy :P
06:06.56Adystesting it on http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/Dev atm
06:07.06Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Common.js
06:07.23DuTempeteouch... you're going to have to write a whole new CSS file for it?
06:07.45AdysNah, we should be able to import it
06:07.47DuTempetecan't just copy/paste and change the default?
06:08.02PanSolaI'm heyping Adys right now
06:08.10DuTempetewell hurry it up, would you?
06:08.26DuTempetestomps her feet.
06:08.55DuTempeteThere are French people who have already left for work.
06:09.42DuTempeteAnd they're thinking, "Wow, Kirkburn sure was being lazy this year.  He must have had a lot of crazy stuff going on or something."
06:09.54DuTempeteBut in French.
06:10.10pcjpfft, french people don't think
06:10.15DuTempetehehehe
06:10.28AdysWow, Kirkburn a vraiment ete lazy cette year. Il doit avoir eu a lot of crazy stuff ou quelquechose.
06:10.39DuTempetecette year...
06:10.55DuTempetethat's not French, that's Frenglish.
06:10.59pcja lot of crazy stuff
06:11.16DuTempetequelquechose...
06:11.28pcjsomething is quelquechose
06:11.42DuTempete... I know...
06:11.49AdysOH NO YOU DONT
06:11.59pcjHow was I to know you knew? You didn't know about the red links
06:12.03DuTempetebut shouldn't there be spaces and punctuation in there?
06:12.24DuTempeteHey, I was busy being productive in the real world...
06:12.40pcjThen how did you know about wowwiki being messed up?
06:12.51DuTempetebecause I was here when it was done.
06:13.07DuTempeteand just because I'm ignoring you mad people doesn't mean I'm not talking to Kirkburn. :P
06:15.17DottedFisker- ahahahahahjahaha
06:15.32DottedEran DD is on the FCK football team ;D
06:15.53DuTempetedamnit... my lemon bars won't cool fast enough :(
06:16.06DuTempeteI want baked lemony goodness!
06:25.17CharitwoAdys: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=World_of_Warcraft&diff=1290473&oldid=1290471&rcid=1273542
06:25.40Adysoh
06:25.54Adysthanks
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07:05.25PanSolaCheck out http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/GuildWiki_talk:April_Fools_2008
07:05.47PanSolaor any talk page on GUildWiki (-:
07:16.35Adyshaha
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07:21.50AdysHey montagg :)
07:22.54montaggHey Adys. What's up with the GuildWiki stuff? Fascinating, but the broken links is hurting mein eyez.
07:23.06Adyspft =P
07:23.15Adyslinks arent broken tho :)
07:25.09montaggFigured that out after a while, just was... weirding out my wiki senses.
07:25.16Adyshehe
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07:25.55Adyslaurly :D
07:26.28laurlyhey adys
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07:27.15montaggAdys = pingmaster ping
07:27.20Adyssup
07:27.24laurlyhmm i think i need to buy a new coffie pot soon
07:28.27montagglaurly: I met a guy in San Francisco who had the plastic filter-holder for the coffee pot and nothing else. He'd just put the coffee in the filter, put the filter in this plastic thing, and run hot water straight through it into his mug.
07:29.00montaggHe said it was available at the local hippie shop, but I never got one. Great way to save space/electricity.
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07:29.34laurlyO.o
07:30.04laurlywould make a grate conversation piece next time i have ppl over for coffie
07:30.10Adyslol
07:30.44kd3http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/features/bard/bardclass.xml
07:31.32laurlyLOL april 1 i was wondering what they would put up
07:31.43PanSolaAdy: yeah I still say swithc back to blue links for main page
07:31.46PanSolait's hurting ppl's eyes
07:33.02laurlylol one of the locks in my guild got first on server exaulted with the new sunwell faction
07:33.15PanSolaAdys: also, if you are interested in the sidebar flipping one let me know
07:33.20Adysmmh?
07:33.28Adyssidebar flipping?
07:33.37laurlywtf who broke wiki http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page?
07:33.53PanSolacheck out any talk page on GuildWiki (refresh cache if you notice nothing)
07:34.10montaggAha, I love April 1 @ Blizzard.
07:34.34Adysworld of guitar hero finally cometh
07:35.11Adysoh PanSola
07:35.12Adysnice :P
07:35.43laurlywhy are all the links red
07:39.02laurlyTo fuel his or her powers, the bard uses a brand-new resource system called "groove. LOL
07:41.31Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Ruby_Dragonshrine
07:41.32Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Indu%27le_Village
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07:41.35laurlyhmmmwhat should i do today.
07:42.06AdysKALROTH! I SLEPT WITH A DANISH CHICK TODAY! JK HAPPY APRIL'S FOOLS!
07:42.27laurlyO.o
07:42.47laurlyi put a post on guild forumes telling them all they got 100dkp for being so nice :)
07:48.31montaggI think Bush did that, but with money.
07:51.28laurlyok all links being red is anoying.
07:51.58Adysawh
07:52.09Adysthe blue links are the inexisting ones
07:54.54PanSolaAdys: too much red on black hurt the eyes )-:
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08:10.44Adysugh
08:10.53Adyswtb more coffee
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08:38.00kd3ugh. can't take the red text much longer
08:43.06Niatwts WoW:Molten Core private beta keys! :D
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08:44.32Adyskd3 ill revert it soon :)
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09:14.59montaggwtf i thot WoW:MC wuz gunna b rogue-like. wtf @
09:15.34Niati already preordered the collecters edition. i want those extra colors. :D
09:16.13montaggYou can get a special headpiece that gives you two more pixels ontop of your one pixel.
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09:25.36Niatwoah cooool! :D
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09:29.06WyriHaximus4thmorning everyone
09:29.50MeStinkBADI really don't care for April 1
09:30.22Laraul<PROTECTED>
09:30.25Laraullol
09:31.46LaraulWell not the first time that has happened... it is the second
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09:38.17WyriHaximus4thlol Laraul
09:39.08Laraulit happens
09:39.26LaraulI dragged and dropped the text to the input bar...
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09:52.45AdysCan anyone recognize the signature on http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Raggy.jpg?
09:52.48Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Raggy.jpg
09:58.55Niatwhat signature?
09:59.08Niatoh... *that* signature.
09:59.45Niati don't know who made this... but afaik it's from the tcg.
10:25.28WyriHaximus4thNice new hero class :D
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10:30.23rjmuuuh anyone know why the servers are down
10:30.36Adysbecause they are not up
10:31.06rjml2 answer logically
10:31.16Adysl2 ask meaningful questions
10:31.33rjmhow does that question not have meaning
10:32.24AdysIt doesnt have a meaning because statistically, at the rate of one maintenance every week, + about an additional maintenance every 3 weeks, in about the past 158 weeks, the servers have gone down well over 250 times
10:32.52AdysIf you multiply that by the amount of servers in US and Europe, that's about 3000 maintenances
10:33.09Adysif you add the amount of times the servers have been down, Im sure you can go up to 4-4.5k
10:33.31rjmyou could have easily sidestepped writing a paragraph on the subject by simply replying "probably maintenence"
10:33.35AdysHence, asking why the servers are down is kind of meaningless, and could have been asked over 10 million times 4.5k
10:33.51AdysThats over 45 billion times
10:34.13AdysIt's about 5 times the world's population
10:34.21AdysHence, it's meaningless.
10:34.21rjmthrowing statistics at me is meaningless, all I want to know is why the servers are down now
10:34.29AdysYou wont.
10:38.51rjmoo new patch
10:40.45WyriHaximus4th2.4.2?
10:40.49WyriHaximus4thanything special?
10:41.36rjmthere are some changes, read the patch notes
10:41.41rjmcan't paste them :/
10:42.34WyriHaximus4thhmmm oki gonne try and find them since my patch comes tomorrow then
10:43.35WyriHaximus4thNothing special it seems :).
10:43.48rjmwell, the stupid combat log is fixed
10:44.10WyriHaximus4thpoint taken
10:47.44WyriHaximus4thBtw the new red instead of the blue for link text in the articles looks good, needed to get used to it a bit tbh :).
10:48.09rjmwhich text is that?
10:48.14rjmcombat text?
10:49.20WyriHaximus4thhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Montag/Master_Plan
10:49.22WyriHaximus4ththe links :)
10:49.42rjmah, wowwiki
10:50.13WyriHaximus4th:)
10:51.28WyriHaximus4thWhile we are on the subject I saw some things (like on that page) about using a map like mapwow.com for quests and such. Is there any progress on that?
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11:06.50Adyshttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Internet&diff=202450396&oldid=201967078
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11:11.37Fisker-i win you lose Dotted
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12:10.07Kirkburn|sleephttp://www.blizzard.com/us/diablo2exp/pinata.html :)
12:10.47WyriHaximus4th<3 :D
12:23.13AdysGoogle competitor Microsoft in the mean-time came up with a plan that’s so crazy it just might work, Search Engine Land reports. Instead of buying Yahoo to beat Google, they will pay people in the US $1 million per year to not use Google. A special program will monitor their web activitiy to ensure this.
12:23.38Adys(...) There’s an estimated 300 million people living in the United States. If you pay each one $1 million for the next three years, that’s just under $1 billion. That saves Microsoft $39 billion compared to what it was going to spend on purchasing Yahoo.
12:24.24Adyswho did the math on that
12:27.40laurlyhmm Me tanking MT should i tell them i havent tanked since tbc`?
12:27.55laurlyna lets suprise them
12:28.15Adysdo it do it
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12:30.00WyriHaximus4thsuprise them, allways more fun afterwards
12:30.32laurlyyeah thats what i think
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12:48.12Osewhy are all links red?
12:48.33laurlyvery good question.
12:48.37laurlyi blame Adys
12:49.08Adysi cant believe people dont ask "why are the official forums fucked up" or "why is there a bard class" or "why is youtube rickrolling everyone"
12:49.15Adysbut people do ask "why are the links red"
12:49.22OseI was going to comment on that!
12:49.43OseI just entered
12:52.53CorganAdys
12:52.56Adyswhat
12:52.56Corganwhy are the links red
12:53.03Adysbecause, you know
12:53.06Adysi changed the css
12:53.07Adysass
12:53.16Corganwhy are the links red
12:53.27Adysbecause, you know
12:53.28Adysi changed the css
12:53.30Adysass
12:53.33Corganwhy are the links red
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12:53.55CorganSlow typer is slow
12:54.03Corganhugs Adys
12:54.08AdysIm typing with one hand
12:54.16CorganI'm typing with my penis
12:54.18Adyshugs Corgan with his other hand
12:54.30Corganok
12:54.31WyriHaximus4thlikes the new red
12:54.32CorganI'm tired
12:54.37CorganGOODNIGHT LOL
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12:54.45p30ngood afternoon
12:55.00p30nits 1.4.2008 somewhere in the world
12:55.07p30nlook it up you april's fool!
12:55.08p30n=)
12:55.22WyriHaximus4thsorry no mirror here :(
12:55.47p30n:(
12:56.17WyriHaximus4thcould try with my screens turned off sec
12:56.29WyriHaximus4thhmmm only vagely :(
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13:02.41p30nomgad, the WoW: MC joke on .eu rawkd
13:02.51p30nhahaha I lol'd twice
13:02.58p30nthe trailer is so nice :)
13:03.16p30n"Move your character in any of the 8 unique directions"
13:03.26p30n"Experience glorius 192i resolutions"
13:03.30p30n"Has sound."
13:03.41p30n"Revolutionary AI that reacts to your every move."
13:03.47p30n(which can be in 8 diretcions, remember?)
13:03.49p30nlmfao
13:03.53p30nbest 1 ever
13:05.18p30ndid the US site have any fools joke ?
13:05.27Adysthe same ones
13:05.27p30nor maybe its not april yet over there..
13:05.31p30noh thats lame
13:05.51Adysbut its more like the eu site that shares the same jokes as the us ones :)
13:06.18p30nnot really
13:06.42Adyswhy not? its been that way since 2003
13:06.48pcjlol http://www.google.com/virgle/index.html
13:07.12Adyshttp://thepiratebay.org/blog/102
13:08.04p30nAdys: that what? .us makes it and .eu copies?
13:08.11p30nits the same company, with the same budget
13:08.22p30nblizzard makes it and puts it on their respective pages
13:08.26Adysarguably its not the same company but lets pass..
13:08.33p30nok lets argue, im bored stiff
13:08.38p30nit IS the same company
13:08.42Adyswell fine
13:08.52Osewants meowwiki
13:08.55p30nbasically, its called, Vivendi
13:09.07p30nOse: thats a great idea, we can put som lolcats there :p
13:09.08AdysGoogle US, china, japan, etc have had different april's fools
13:09.33Adysyo |Pixel| a l'aide
13:09.40|Pixel|hm ?
13:09.47Adyssame company or not, blizz us/eu
13:10.01|Pixel|tu me fais un résumé rapide ?
13:10.15Adys[15:08:06] <p30n> Adys: that what? .us makes it and .eu copies?
13:10.15Adys[15:08:13] <p30n> its the same company, with the same budget
13:10.35|Pixel|absolutely not
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13:10.56|Pixel|"Blizzard Europe" is separated from "Blizzard Entertainment"
13:11.07|Pixel|with different budgets, different employees contracts, etc
13:11.13|Pixel|there are links between the two companies, of course
13:11.16|Pixel|but that's it
13:11.20p30n|Pixel|: and Vivendi owns both Blizzard Europe and Blizz Ent. ?
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13:11.24|Pixel|yep
13:11.44p30nso all in all, Vivendi is the ones that made the fools joke and put it on both .eu .us pages
13:11.51|Pixel|nope
13:11.59Osegah! stealing kirkburns css didn't fix links :(
13:12.15|Pixel|us makes it, eu copies
13:12.25p30ni dont believe u
13:12.30|Pixel|do as you please
13:12.30Adyslol
13:12.57p30nhehe, well it could as well have been a european employee that made it and sent it to .us last week
13:13.08|Pixel|ah, this way
13:13.09|Pixel|well
13:13.11p30ni wont give in until u gimme URL to prove that .us made it :p
13:13.13|Pixel|sometime it happens
13:13.20|Pixel|but it's really rare
13:13.29p30nand u know this because..?
13:13.30|Pixel|I don't have any url to give you
13:13.32|Pixel|err
13:13.36AdysOse:  http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Wowwiki.css - invert the colors, from tghe twofirst lines
13:13.37|Pixel|because I am a blizzard employee ?
13:13.42|Pixel|working on the website ?
13:13.43|Pixel|maybe
13:13.49|Pixel|just a wild idea though
13:13.52p30nmaybe yea
13:13.58p30nfine by me
13:15.52p30nso ur employed by blizz .us |Pixel| ? :)
13:16.02Adyseu
13:16.15Osebut that ruined the side/top bar!!!!!!!
13:16.23Adyswut
13:16.29Adysoh
13:16.38Adyser
13:16.44Adysose, remove .portlet a
13:16.48Adysfrom your css
13:17.04Osethankies :)
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13:20.52Fisker-slaps |Pixel| around a bit with a large trout
13:20.58|Pixel|bites Fisker-
13:21.11Fisker-mean
13:21.17|Pixel|yep
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13:22.42Fisker-slow blizz is slow btw
13:22.54Fisker-should've been playing WotLK
13:22.55p30nnow thats a new one
13:23.01p30nscrew wotlk
13:23.06p30ndelay it another year
13:23.17Adysanother couple of years
13:23.19p30nand give Maelstrom and Kul'Tiras patches
13:23.26Adysemerald dream
13:23.31p30nyea ffs that 2
13:23.36Adysgilneas :)
13:23.46p30ndito
13:24.22Adysbut i rather know blizz releases northrend than releases total new zones
13:24.33p30nlets say, Emerald Dream in 2.5, Gilneas in 2.6, Maelstrom and naga capital at 2.7 and Kul'Tiras at 2.8
13:24.46p30nlets find 1 more and wotlk can go live at 3.0 in 1.5years
13:24.48p30n:)
13:24.50Adysbard in 2.5 sucker
13:24.53Adysyaaaaa
13:25.03p30nscrew bard lol
13:25.07Adyshahaha
13:25.42Adyscould someone archive the village pump
13:25.49Adysmy browser cant even load the full edit
13:26.11Fisker-You mean firefox
13:26.13Adysno
13:26.20AdysIm using webkit
13:26.24Adysjust fyi
13:26.27Fisker-*haet*
13:26.42p30nwhat can I say, the red links are fuglier than before
13:26.46p30nbut thats just me
13:30.23Adyslaurly you there
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13:37.35Osecan I change the wowwiki image (main page link image) with css?
13:37.50Oseadys? ^ you know?
13:37.58Aloysiusdoes wound poison and mortal strike stack?
13:38.12Adysyes and yes
13:38.22Aloysiusintresting
13:38.44Osehow?
13:38.54Osedoesen't find it
13:39.03Adysose, a[title="Main Page"] { background-image:url(blah.png) !important; }
13:39.10Adysdont remember if you need the quotes
13:41.38Fisker-do you shot java Adys?
13:41.49Osehttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/wowwiki.css = teh lulnezz
13:41.58AdysMakes no sense, Fisker-
13:42.05Adysyour sentence is gramatically absurd
13:43.09Fisker-yes
13:43.17Kirkburn|sleepSorted out the test skin, some things are temp fixes, but it should look pretty much "final" now
13:43.19Fisker-but that doesn't mean it doesn't make sense
13:43.24Kirkburn|sleephttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Kirkburn#Monaco_skin_preview
13:43.32*** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> WoWWiki will never: give you up; let you down; run around and desert you; make you cry; say goodbye; tell a lie and hurt you. Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowi-lounge | CVN channel is live at #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | Duke Nukem forever released !!!
13:43.48pcjgetting better kirkburn
13:43.59Fisker-pigs can fly wee
13:44.03Fisker-cvn?
13:44.04pcjhatched background helps
13:44.11Kirkburn|sleepIndeedy
13:44.26Kirkburn|sleepI really like the way it's used on the article header bar too
13:44.29pcjstill needs color
13:45.01Kirkburn|sleepAny ideas of where?
13:45.22Kirkburn|sleep(At this point it's mostly up to us to tweak it)
13:45.41Fisker-HI
13:45.46pcjNot really sure
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13:48.50Adyskirk
13:49.00Kirkburn|sleepsup
13:49.04Adysdoes redirecting User:Adys/monaco.css to User: Kirkburn blah will work?
13:49.11pcjThe page title (below the edit tabs etc) could probably moved up a bit
13:49.13Kirkburn|sleepNo idea
13:49.17pcjprobably be*
13:49.53Kirkburn|sleepSounds like an <h1> thing
13:50.31Adyslol
13:50.33Adysdont think it worked
13:51.05Kirkburn|sleepHmm, h1 thing looks to be in the main skin code, will look at later
13:51.45Kirkburn|sleepSurely there's a way to include someone elses CSS :(
13:53.02Adys@import :)
13:53.37Adyskirk, a few questions
13:53.44WyriHaximus|gonecya later all
13:53.51Adysis the discussion/article tabgroup staying on the right
13:53.53Adysbb WyriHaximus|gone
13:54.06Kirkburn|sleepYes
13:54.13WyriHaximus|gonebb Adys :)
13:54.17Kirkburn|sleepIt's to make "edit" more prominent
13:54.18Adyswhy qq
13:54.22Adyshmm
13:54.47Adysthen, can we have like uh
13:54.57AdysArticle / Talk / Edit on the left
13:55.00Adysand the rest on the right
13:55.38Kirkburn|sleepProbably not
13:55.44Osekirkburn|sleep: can I make the background on the google searchbox transparent with my css?
13:55.45Adysmuh :(
13:56.10Adysyes you can
13:56.14Kirkburn|sleepOse, no, blame Google
13:56.19Ose:(
13:56.27Adysohy
13:56.29Kirkburn|sleepBesides, why are you testing /that/ CSS :P
13:56.32Adysyou talking about the current one
13:56.58Kirkburn|sleepHe's talking about wowwiki.css
13:57.02Adysye
13:57.12Kirkburn|sleep(you can swap it for the mediawiki search though)
13:57.35Kirkburn|sleepAdys, it's hardcoded, last I saw
13:57.40Oseis it functioning properly?
13:57.43Adysyes, it is
13:57.50Adyswe could be using a prettier one though :)
13:57.50Oseokie
13:58.16AdysAnd uh, Kirkburn, I hope we will have a google searchbox past the upgrade
13:58.31Adysbecause you realize mw search sucks :P
13:59.11Kirkburn|sleepNo, we won't
13:59.29Kirkburn|sleepAnd you should try it more, it's really not that bad
13:59.29Adyswhy? wikia can make money on it
13:59.34Kirkburn|sleepPlus it has search suggest
13:59.37Adysyea i try it alot
13:59.53Adysyou can have search sugg on google ones too
14:00.26Kirkburn|sleepOnly downside is that it doesn't show article content
14:00.41Adysyanking the google one is just hurting the community alot of people use it
14:00.47Adyskeep both if anything
14:01.23Oseuhm adys, one more prob. I don't get visited links to show as visited...
14:01.38Adysa:visited
14:02.35Kirkburn|sleepPeople use it because that's what there has always been
14:02.58Adysno kirk..
14:03.00Kirkburn|sleepHowever, if there was a way to keep both ...
14:03.08Adyswell there is
14:03.12Adysjust have two searchboxes
14:03.34Adysheck, you can have the google one treated as a widget
14:03.35Kirkburn|sleepI can alter skin theming, not code
14:03.58Adysuhm.
14:04.25Adysthis kind of stuff doesnt take long to code :p
14:05.22Kirkburn|sleepWhich is irrelevant given my last line
14:05.33Adysyes, but what i mean is wikia could do an effort
14:06.03Kirkburn|sleepTbh, they have way more important things to do, but I will request it be looked into
14:06.09Adysthe mediawiki search algorithm is horrible, doesnt even take in account approximations
14:06.35laurlyi really feel sorry for this group
14:06.35Adysi wont go on saying how good google's is, but id even have altavista or livesearch on wowwiki rather than the mw one :)
14:07.41AdysKirkburn|sleep:  unrelated, see http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Patch_mirrors#Numeric_abuse
14:09.04Kirkburn|sleepFine, typing "agreed"
14:09.14Oseexaclty what do I have to add to make visited links display as visited?
14:09.27AdysKirkburn|sleep: Dont have to agree, just wanted you to see my last line
14:09.33Kirkburn|sleepa:visited, table.gallery td a:visited { color: #7078FF; }
14:09.58Kirkburn|sleepHowever, not really sure why you wouldn't be seeing them as visited
14:09.59AdysOse: Seriously cant you just wait another 8 hours :P
14:10.08Osenope
14:10.08AdysKirkburn|sleep: custom css to get rid of red links
14:10.10Kirkburn|sleepoh, thaaat
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14:14.28pcjkirkburn couldn't wikia put something in the preferences to switch between google and mw
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14:15.40Kirkburn|sleepIt's really not their aim
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14:16.04Dottedi win?
14:16.09Kirkburn|sleepAnd they'd have problems integrating Google's search into the skin that way, given the license afaik
14:16.22Kirkburn|sleep(how would you add Google's logo, for one)
14:16.43Adysin the searchbox
14:16.53Adyssee http://devcub.com/dev
14:17.23pcj404
14:17.38Adyserf
14:17.41Adyswowace.com/wiki
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14:18.52Oselikies wowwiki monaco preview kirkburn
14:19.03pcjlol kirkburn your sig is messed up on http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Kirkburn#Monaco_skin_preview
14:19.42pcjthere fixed
14:20.32Kirkburn|sleepBoldness breaks my sig? Weird
14:21.03Kirkburn|sleepOse, cool
14:21.09Kirkburn|sleepAdys, ah, I see
14:22.44Adyshey
14:22.46AdysFisker-
14:22.46Kirkburn|sleeptrac'd
14:22.47Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys
14:22.57Adysyou like my april's fools?!
14:23.33laurlyeeek
14:23.43Kirkburn|sleepAnyone testing the monaco skin, do please report anything that looks weird
14:23.55AdysKirkburn|sleep: the code boxes are white
14:23.57Adysintended?
14:24.06Kirkburn|sleepDoubtful
14:24.20Adyscheck User:Kirkburn/monaco.css in your own skin
14:24.28laurlyred links are bothering me
14:24.33Adyshehe
14:24.47Kirkburn|sleepHmm, it's supposed to be #191919
14:26.07Kirkburn|sleepOh, different thing, nvm
14:26.31laurlywhy do i spend time coding kewl things that no one else realises is kewl?
14:26.39Adysi do :(
14:27.36pcjpfft everything you do is cool laurly
14:27.51laurlyyeah but you guys are the only ones that know that
14:28.07Adysjoin my club
14:28.14Adyssay hi to all the openwdb fans :
14:28.14Adys:P
14:29.48Kirkburn|sleeppre fixed
14:31.17Kirkburn|sleepAnd darkened the body text slightly (FFF --> EEE)
14:31.25laurlyi think guild is starting to take forgranted i spend time coding crazy crap for them.
14:31.42Adyslaurly btw
14:31.47laurlyyes
14:31.48Adysdo you have the code for laurlybot somewhere
14:31.58laurlyon the server under my desk
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14:32.16Oselaurly: see your talk
14:32.46laurlylol
14:33.54Osekirkburn|sleep: are we going to get a new logo (horizontal thing)?
14:34.04Kirkburn|sleepWe already have one :P
14:34.20Adyscan someone archive the village pump :(
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14:34.30laurlyit would be nice
14:34.45Osethat boring thing?
14:35.35Osekirkburn: write ad-censoring thingy for monaco plz :P
14:35.50pcjlol ose i designed that in the first place
14:36.04pcjnot like it took a lot of design effort
14:36.21Osegeif
14:36.36pcji might when the new skin goes live
14:36.42pcjif i use it
14:37.26pcjall it is is finding the id for the ads and setting it to display:none
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14:38.54Kirkburn|sleepOse, yes, I'm going to write code to censor my companies main source of income ...
14:39.11Adysgoogle ads = gold selling ads
14:39.16Kirkburn|sleepBtw, tweaked the logo, should be better positioned now
14:39.22Osenot for everyone, for me and you
14:39.23Kirkburn|sleepAdys, not true, we block a lot of them
14:39.33Oseyou have one in your wowwiki.css
14:39.46Adyswhy not just use google image ads, if you really want google ads on wowwiki?
14:39.52Kirkburn|sleepThat's from before I started work here :P
14:39.55Adysgoogle text ads on wow related websites is suicide
14:40.13Kirkburn|sleepWe have a large variety of ad types
14:40.22Kirkburn|sleepIt's likely ours haven't been tweaked yet
14:40.35Adysyou did say earlier on we wouldnt be keeping google ads
14:40.47Kirkburn|sleepNot in the sidebar, no
14:40.49Adysyou do know how much i defend google but Im just plainly against google ads on wow sites :)
14:41.13Kirkburn|sleepAnd probably quite quickly not in the header either, as it becomes a sought after ad position
14:41.26Adysgood
14:41.40Adysput whatever you want there but not google ads
14:41.45Adys(and btw, same goes for yahoo ads)
14:41.47Kirkburn|sleepI think we're mainly seing google ads there atm because we've not been set up for better stuff
14:42.32Kirkburn|sleepIf you see http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page ... I think you should see better ads
14:42.59AdysYeah, its alot better there
14:43.02AdysI dont see any ads.
14:43.53Oseisn't widgets supposed to be movable?
14:44.57Kirkburn|sleepOse, they are
14:45.07Osenot for me
14:45.22OseI get a cross-cursor, but when I try to drag, nothing
14:45.36Osecommunity box is movable though
14:47.14Kirkburn|sleepBrowser?
14:47.47Kirkburn|sleepTop box isn't moveable, but all others should be
14:48.12Osefirefox
14:48.18Kirkburn|sleepYou can add widgets from http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Widgets
14:48.23Oseworks now
14:48.27Kirkburn|sleepAh, good :)
14:52.32Adys"Rumors are already circulating that Microsoft's OOXML has been voted in by the standards board. The Open Sourcerer claims to have results of the ballot on dis29500."
14:52.34Adyssighs
14:53.25Adysmore sigh: http://lifehacker.com/374506/
14:55.18Adysand more rickrolling: http://buzz.blogger.com/2008/04/announcing-google-weblogs-beta.html
14:56.11Gourraafter all it's april first
14:56.38Kirkburn|sleepI love Blizz' forum change
14:56.42Adyscome on, a guide to what is fake and not today?
14:56.44Adysseriously.
14:56.54Adyskirk, weak, last year's forum change was alot better
14:57.00Kirkburn|sleepTrue
14:57.07Kirkburn|sleepBut I'm still enjoying the lol. lol.
14:57.11Adysand molten core/bard wins :)
14:57.13Adysyeah
14:57.17Adysits nice in the forum rules
14:57.28Adyshttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=82238231&sid=1
14:57.36AdysA kekeke. An MVP continues to promote constructive posting wherever they can lolwut. They contribute to the community and encourage polite discussion throughout the forums . When you see an MVP post, listen to what they have to say -- they were chosen for their knowledge of the game, also rofl
14:58.04Kirkburn|sleep:)
14:58.07Adys"Q I lol'd IRL. Why aren't the MVPs all level 60s?"
14:58.15Gourragaaah why did I open a 6 MB .pdf file
14:58.35Gourrathanks Adobe Reader, there's appearantly an error now too
14:58.49Adyshttp://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php
14:58.51Gourraand I can't close down the window.
14:58.52Gourranice
14:58.59Adysget that gourra
14:59.00Kirkburn|sleep<PROTECTED>
14:59.00Kirkburn|sleepdly violating policy, appropriate action will be taken lawl.
14:59.15Kirkburn|sleepAiee, damn those 7 extra words
14:59.20AdysSPAMMER
14:59.23AdysKICK KICK KICK
14:59.33Gourrayeah if I can get this stupid firefox defrozen
14:59.39Kirkburn|sleepHey, it was one and a bit lines, 3 is where I draw the line :)
14:59.45Gourra(defrozen sounds like excellent english)
15:00.35AdysKirkburn|sleep:  its barely one line here
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15:00.55Kirkburn|sleepAnd all the CMs have become bukkits
15:01.06Kirkburn|sleepFun :)
15:01.09GourraI read that as something far more disturbing
15:02.02AdysKirkburn|sleep:  http://86.205.211.132/~adys/oneline.png
15:02.24Adysbarely one line!
15:02.51dioz_stupid nick services
15:03.11Gourraoh great..I can open links in firefox through other programs but I can't switch it
15:03.26Gourras/it/to it/
15:03.41Gourrafacepalms
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15:05.35Adysoff to bed for a bit, bbl
15:06.08Kirkburn|sleepsee ya
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15:11.09pcjlol http://mail.google.com/mail/help/customtime/index.html
15:12.33Kirkburn|sleepDotted, did you switch da.wowwiki to the wowwiki skin?
15:12.41Dottedno
15:12.54Kirkburn|sleepSomeone seems to have
15:13.13Dottedi asked in the wikia chan but didnt really get a reponse
15:13.19Dottedbut thats sweet
15:13.41Kirkburn|sleepNo, it's not, cause it broke it :P
15:13.59pcjkirkburn what's with the excessive line breaks near the end of monaco.css
15:14.04Dotted'well thats no surprise
15:15.10Kirkburn|sleeppcj, splitting it up
15:15.10Kirkburn|sleepFirst section is the main skin, second section is our templates, last section is our overrides needing to be checked
15:15.35pcjyou can't just use a comment?
15:15.38Dotteduhm Kirkburn|sleep
15:15.47Dottedcant even access the wiki at all
15:15.54pcjlol april fools dotted
15:15.59pcjcome back tomorrow
15:15.59Kirkburn|sleepDotted, yes, it broke it
15:16.18Dottedthen how do you know its the skin that caused it :O?
15:16.23Kirkburn|sleepIt's as if I just said that
15:16.30Kirkburn|sleepCause techs are looking at it
15:16.53Kirkburn|sleeppcj, nope, not atm
15:16.58pcjhey i was looking at da.wowwiki and the site isn't working
15:17.06pcjmaybe it's the skin?
15:19.00Kirkburn|sleepBtw, every week (ish), Wikia do a code release ... we're now on Wikia: releases/200804.1 (r10963)
15:19.47Kirkburn|sleepSo generally, you may see tweaks at the beginning of every week
15:19.55DottedEvents mistaken as April Fools' Day hoaxes
15:19.55Dotted* Pizzahut.com rebranding themselves as PastaHut
15:19.58Dottedlolwut
15:20.34Adysfuck sleep
15:21.46Kirkburn|sleepindeed
15:21.50Adyslol
15:22.29Adyshttp://digg.com/tech_news/Gmail_April_Fools_Not_Very_Funny_Started_A_Wikipedia_War
15:22.33Adysoh yes
15:23.21pcjwhat kind of tweaks kirkburn
15:23.34Kirkburn|sleepGenerally background code
15:23.41pcjLike what
15:24.21Kirkburn|sleepIf there's anything of interest, I'll tell you
15:25.08pcjWell, if the layout of pages is going to be changing every week that determines for me right there that I'm not going to use the new monaco skin
15:25.35Kirkburn|sleepNothing like that
15:26.05Kirkburn|sleepAs I said, generally background code - tweaks to special pages would probably be the most obvious stuff
15:27.02Osekirkburn, would putting {{User:Kirkburn/monaco.css}} in my css page give me yours?
15:27.12Kirkburn|sleepI think Adys tried it earlier, didn't work
15:27.22Adysyeah doesnt work
15:27.24Adys@import it
15:27.45Oseoki
15:28.10Kirkburn|sleep@import "/index.php?title=User:Kirkburn/monaco.css"    <-- thta should do it?
15:28.17Adysuh, try full url
15:28.37Adysand you need &action=aw
15:28.37Kirkburn|sleep@import "http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Kirkburn/monaco.css"
15:28.39Adysraw*
15:28.56Kirkburn|sleep@import "http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Kirkburn/monaco.css&action=raw"
15:29.01Adysyeah should do it
15:29.08Adyswonders if you need ctype too
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15:29.32michaelseilerhttp://digg.com/pc_games/ALL_WOW_SERVERS_DOWN_NOT_APRIL_FOOLS_PRANK
15:29.46Adysget out of here
15:29.56Adysadvertising your own stupid links isnt smart
15:30.06Kirkburn|sleepAh, I think you do .... so @import "http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Kirkburn/monaco.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css"
15:30.34AdysAye kirk
15:32.05Adysgee people get so gripped up over gmail's "bad april's fools"
15:32.18AdysTheres a good 15 different aprils fools from google
15:32.29Adysand they cry because gmail's is not so great
15:32.48Kirkburn|sleepK, updated http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Kirkburn#Monaco_skin_preview
15:34.17Kirkburn|sleepDamn you for using http:// in your edit comment, Adys, damn you
15:34.25Adys><
15:34.28Oselulzez, adys got pinged
15:35.07Kirkburn|sleepDamn you for using http:// in your edit comment, pcj, damn you
15:35.59sacarascthe wiki looks wrong
15:36.05sacarascwho made all the links red?
15:36.17Kirkburn|sleepAdys
15:36.19pcjadys
15:36.26AdysLaurly
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15:37.13pcjyeah kirkburn that css code doesn't work
15:37.21Adyswut
15:37.25Adyswhy not
15:37.30Adysdoesnt overwrite or what?
15:37.45pcjit's just not working
15:38.03Adyshm
15:38.10Ose<PROTECTED>
15:38.24Kirkburn|sleepIf you don't give it a bloody edit summary, yes :P
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15:39.11Osewhy skin turn all bright?
15:39.16Vesitinhey guys.  Bard is an april fools right?
15:39.21pcjno it's serious
15:39.26Vesitinlol
15:39.40pcjthe vivendi - activision merger allowed it
15:39.42Adysyou havent heard? people have been talking about it since activision blizzard
15:39.53Vesitini don't believe you.
15:39.56pcj...
15:40.04Adysthen why do you ask
15:40.12Osenamechange for the game incoming soon: world of guitarherocraft
15:40.49Osewhat's wrong with http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/monaco.css ?
15:41.07Oseit doesen't give me ther ight skin
15:41.10Oseright*
15:41.43Kirkburn|sleephmm
15:42.03pcji blame adys
15:42.05Kirkburn|sleepsec
15:42.29Ose's eyes hurt
15:42.41Osehiss... too bright...
15:43.09Kirkburn|sleepTry with @import "http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Kirkburn/monaco.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css&templates=expand";
15:43.28Adysare you sure you need the quotes
15:43.38Ose:)
15:43.41Oseworkz
15:44.00Kirkburn|sleepLooks like it was the ";" at the end
15:44.06AdysOh
15:44.10Adysof course
15:44.13Ose~seen mikk
15:44.15infobotmikk <n=Administ@WoWUIDev/mikk> was last seen on IRC in channel #norganna, 20d 13h 40m 3s ago, saying: 'Like how much you have in different main categories, and how much $'.
15:44.26Osegah...
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15:44.36Osewe need funkier logo
15:44.45Kirkburn|sleep:O
15:45.46Oseand Kirkburn, are you sleepewalking/editing or just to lazy to change nick?
15:45.48Adyskirkburn
15:45.55Ose:P
15:46.01Adyspre { } has a default background color of f9f9f9
15:46.10Adyscan you remake the code one for uh
15:46.11Adysmw-code mw-css
15:46.12KirkburnNot any more?
15:46.16Adysstill, here
15:46.23Adysone sec
15:46.25KirkburnFine here o_O
15:46.27Adysah fixed, cache
15:46.32pcjgood morning kirkburn
15:46.40KasoI prefered last year's april's fools
15:46.48Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:World_of_Warcraft <-- that'll be the new main page btw
15:46.59pcjlol april fools right
15:47.05KirkburnHaving a job takes away your time for this stuff :P
15:47.17Adyskaso: HOW U LIEK MY MUDKIPS.. I MEAN MY REDLINKZ
15:47.40Kasogive cats kthanks
15:47.52Adyshas anyone seen dA's april's fools :)
15:48.06OseDA?
15:48.16OseDA-DA-DUMMM!
15:48.46Oselol, pcj 2 contribs :P
15:48.51Adysdeviant art
15:48.51Osehttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Pcj
15:49.10pcjold ose
15:49.13Adysyeaaaaa ose was my attempt at being funny
15:49.17OseNOES! me too -.-
15:49.36Oseeriously, what is da?
15:49.41Adysdeviant art
15:49.56Osepther than yes in russian and when in norwegian :P
15:50.08KasoIts stupid. [Sharlin], 1 April 2008 (UTC)
15:50.11KasoSomeone's in a mood
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15:52.13AdysKALROTH !
15:52.24Kalrothfrenchy!
15:52.51KalrothI think all frenchies are cool and they dont suck and they're not crazy!
15:52.56Kalroth(ignore todays date!)
15:53.03Adys:D
15:57.07Dotted[Kalroth]: I think all frenchies are cool and they dont suck and they're not crazy!
15:57.08Dottedagreed
15:57.31Kasooh man i just watched the video for molten core, the bear bit took me totally by surprise, awesome
15:59.23Adysyeah
15:59.24Adyslol
16:03.01Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/monaco.css there we go, useless shit removed
16:05.18pcjbetter
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16:13.37Osewhat's up with you user page adys?
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16:13.46Adys?
16:14.00Osemicrosoft?
16:14.08Aridenimm Microsoft!
16:14.11Adysanother attempt at being funny
16:14.23Adysits the first of april, i can vandalize my userpage
16:14.40Osemicrosoft links to google?
16:15.00Adyswutever
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16:15.56Adyssigh, the folks at wowinsider are making easymoney over crappier posts than usual
16:18.45ArideniI saw
16:18.55ArideniThere was a post I saw in some google results yesterday
16:19.23ArideniIt was about Blizzard supporting homosexuality & using the game as the method or something like that. I didn't really read it.
16:20.14ArideniHm, a lot of valid links on the wiki seem to be in red colour...any particular reason? I am using IE 5.5/win, but I don't know if that's why
16:20.21pcjlol\
16:20.26ArideniNo, nevermind - it's red in Firefox 2
16:20.30Adyssighs
16:21.02Adysyou have about 6 hours left to figure that one out Arideni
16:21.19ArideniApril Fool's or something?
16:21.34Adysgotcha
16:21.47ArideniOh, I see the front page. I didn't go to the front page, =p I was looking at Incapacitate
16:22.11Arideniso there!
16:23.00DottedFisker- TV2 now
16:23.02Dottedlol
16:25.17AdysKirkburn: We'll keep using the same ugly horizontal logo once the skin goes live i support
16:25.20Adyssuppose
16:25.24Adysdont support at all..
16:25.45Dottedthat was probably the funniest wether forecast i have ever seen
16:27.55KirkburnArideni, why IE5.5?
16:28.06KirkburnDotted?
16:28.36AdysKirkburn: See above :P
16:28.45DottedKirkburn extremely oversized signs, cloads and all that and invisible host
16:29.01Dottedclouds*
16:29.21KirkburnAdys, there was no explanation ...
16:29.36Adyssee my question above :)
16:31.14Oselol: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Maine_Page
16:32.10KirkburnAdys eh?
16:32.15Adys[18:25:19] <@Adys> Kirkburn: We'll keep using the same ugly horizontal logo once the skin goes live i suppose
16:32.27KirkburnYes, you presumed correctly
16:32.43AdysWhy? :)
16:32.52ArideniKirkburn: haven't upgraded it yet; running on a newly installed WinME system atm
16:32.53KirkburnWell, the stamp logo wouldn't fit there
16:32.58pcjbecause it's ugly, that's how wikia likes it
16:33.08Adysill go with pcj's solution
16:33.09KirkburnArideni ouch ... although can I ask your help on something
16:33.18AdysI managed to fit the logo there
16:33.21KirkburnArideni, how does http://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:World_of_Warcraft look?
16:33.24ArideniSure,
16:33.30Adysjust by putting the background down a bit
16:33.36KirkburnSpecifically the tabs
16:33.39ArideniGive me a min
16:33.54KirkburnSure
16:33.59Arideni5.5 is surprisingly fast & lightweight in comparison to FF2
16:34.04Adysthe current logo is prettier and, specifically, currently used. theres nothing wrong with it, people wont like the change, blah blah. but hey, i dont get money from here
16:34.09ArideniIt's very noticable on dialup
16:34.16Arideni& on this P3 machine, lol
16:34.35AdysArideni: try webkit raw
16:34.40Adysit's amazingly fast
16:34.49pcjthe sidebar looks a lot better at 186px width imo
16:34.52ArideniKirkburn: if the window isn't maximized, the green arrow icon, etc. all push left, sitting on top of the entire page
16:34.56Kirkburn(The tabs saying World of Warcraft, WoW interface customization, Warcraft universe, Community)
16:35.03Arideninot a prob I figure, but
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16:35.36KirkburnYeah, IE didn't support min-width
16:35.42ArideniThe tabs look big & pixelated...ish
16:35.50Adysthats ie5
16:35.50Aridenibut slightly
16:36.19ArideniI can see them well enough to use them, they don't stand out from the rest of the page (in a way they weren't meant to, that is).
16:36.19Adysarideni for the good of all of us please use a browser that's still alive
16:36.28Adys(id get 10 points if fin was here, damn)
16:36.29ArideniLol, I do. I use FF2 normally
16:36.40ArideniI wanted to keep 5.5 for web design
16:36.50Adysdont design for 5.5 ...
16:36.53Adysnor 6
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16:36.56Adysnor 7 for that matter
16:37.04Arideniwell, I try to be accessible.
16:37.18Adysno, you are irrespectuous of other web designers and yourself
16:37.31ArideniI don't make changes for them, but I do like to see how it looks (and it was surprisingly lightweight, just wow)
16:37.36AdysThe less websites support outdated browsers, the less people will use outdated browsers
16:37.44Adysand seriously use webkit if you want something light =P
16:37.47ArideniI do not design for 5.5, but I make sure the page is accessible.
16:37.52Fisker-:I
16:37.54Adysmuh :)
16:37.56Fisker-forums down
16:37.57Fisker-QQ
16:38.06Adysgo on 4chan Fisker- and dont come back
16:38.28PhotoJimsome people use "outdated" browsers because they run really modest hardware that, while obsolete, is more than capable of doing basic web browsing and email.
16:38.41AdysArideni:  webkit-ni ~ 10149 ? ~ 16.1 MiB
16:38.59Adysthats with a lot of pages ope
16:39.00Adysn
16:39.11pcjwtf #widget_cockpit_list{margin:5px 0;position:relative;width:10000000px;z-index:1;}
16:39.12AdysPhotoJim: thats bollocks
16:39.15PhotoJimI occasionaly browse using links2 in text.  For most websites it should work fine.
16:39.17ArideniI'll check it out!
16:39.56PhotoJims/occasionaly/occasionally/
16:39.57AdysPhotoJim: you can grab an os like DSL or xubuntu for those, and run a much better and up to date software
16:40.26Adyspeople still running windows 95 are doing it because they are lazy or dont know about this.
16:40.48PhotoJimthey are, for the most part, running it because it still works and it's good enough for them.
16:41.05PhotoJimimagine if we arbitrarily changed the road network so that pre-2000 cars didn't drive properly.  that's what this is.
16:41.05ArideniWin98 is very, very sluggish & would freeze constantly on this same system. I had to go directly to ME instead of the recovery disk (with all my software on it, etc. which is what I wanted)
16:41.25AdysPhotoJim: Again, bollocks
16:41.35AdysYou realize this
16:41.47AdysPeople use outdated browsers because it's good enough for them
16:41.58AdysWebdevs dev their pages for those outdated browsers
16:42.02KalrothI STILL USE MSIE 3.0
16:42.14ArideniI think people use the old stuff primarily because it a) suits their hardware, which coincides with "meets their needs," b) it's cheaper usually, and c) people do not keep current with modern software nor technology & is hard enough to find workers in normal settings who are
16:42.20AdysThose users get good rendering, but whine when websites dont work
16:42.39AdysSo they are not actually happy with their software. saying its enough for them in this case is lying
16:42.49PhotoJimI whine when websites don't work in Firefox 2.0, personally.  and many don't.
16:42.51Fisker-nah Adys i'm busy going on your mother
16:42.53Aridenithis coming from an office standpoint; for example, a few years ago...every computer I saw at my car insurance agency was running DOS & the town hall used DOS versions of peachtree
16:42.53Adysand saying "the customer is always right" bs. no, the customer is wrong
16:43.21ArideniIn retail, we don't really say the customer is always right, unless we're talking TO the customer, lol.
16:43.33Adysthe customer COULD install an up to date OS that STILL supports his hardware, but the customer doesnt because the customer is lazy and stubborn
16:44.11ArideniA lot of business don't bother with buying new O/S they use what comes on the system
16:44.19Adystake dsl case. "Why wouldn't you install it"
16:44.20PhotoJimAdys: I'm a really big Linux fan, but running Win98SE on modest hardware is less unpleasant in many ways than running a really stripped-down Linux.
16:44.29ArideniOffice 2k is fine for me, I'm not even interested in Office 2k3 because it looks bloated.
16:44.41PhotoJimalthough in defense of Linux, if you have enough RAM it will run surprisingly well on modest hardware.  I have a PII-400 with 384 MB RAM that runs the latest Ubuntu very well, in full Gnome glory.
16:44.49pcjkirkburn .firstHeading, #bodyContent { position:relative; top: -10px; }
16:44.51pcjlooks better
16:45.27AdysPhotoJim: you honestly gonna tell me win98 is better or faster than xfce environment ?
16:45.40KirkburnAgreed, pcj, done
16:45.53Adysnot only is it faster and more tweakable even on old hardware, but its also more compatible.
16:45.58ArideniI'm tellin' ya, I noticed an immediate difference in just /booting/ when using 98SE & ME back to back over the weekend. It was stupid how much better it was...and I have no qualms with this system except how it deterioates over 15-25 hours of use...it doesn't handle heavy image editing, etc. but I haven't had a single system lock up or blue screen at all...I'm really surprised!
16:46.48PhotoJimAdys:  "better" is subjective.  faster, I won't claim that, although I'd have to test it to be convinced.  Win98SE is not that bad.  Frankly, I have a really old P200 notebook that runs XP better than it runs icewm on Debian, although it doesn't run either one particularly well.
16:46.59pcjtl;dr
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16:47.32Adysits up to you i guess, but my point on compatibility still stands
16:47.49KirkburnDesign for IE6 if you expect office users
16:47.52Adysup to date dsl/xubuntu is alot more compatible than win98 :p
16:47.53PhotoJimunless you run Linux without a GUI, I think older versions of Windows do better than Linux for ram efficiency.  if you have enough RAM, unquestionably, Linux kicks any version of Windows.
16:47.59KirkburnDesign for IE7 if you expect home users
16:48.16KirkburnDesign for standards if you expect cutting edge visitors
16:48.24ArideniI will never use win98 again^_^
16:48.29KirkburnThat's my view anyway :)
16:48.33AdysNah, design for standards if you expect to be alive in 5 years
16:48.36pcjDesign for Safari if you expect idiots
16:48.45PhotoJimI don't intend to use Win98 again either, because all the machines I still use are good enough to run more modern OSs.
16:48.50KirkburnWell, the design for IE6 bit is rapidly reducing
16:48.52Adyssafari has the best rendering engine pcj
16:49.00PhotoJimbut if I had a 486 with 32 MB of RAM that I wanted to use graphically, I'd pick Win98SE over Linux, honestly.
16:49.01pcjofc it does
16:49.01laurlyim so depressed the servers all stable theres nothing left to fix....
16:49.26pcjboy that's a terrible problem you have there laurly
16:49.26AdysPhotoJim: Try xfce if you havent :)
16:49.42PhotoJimAdys: I actually haven't tried xfce, just icewm.
16:49.44laurlypcj isnt it just
16:49.51Adysit runs perfect on 128mb ram
16:50.01PhotoJimAdys: I think part of my problem is that Linux just doesn't seem to work as nicely on a limited display (e.g. 800x600) as Windows does.  Linux cries for pixels.
16:50.31Adysdisagrees =P
16:50.50PhotoJimthat old notebook I have has 80 MB.  that's as much as it can take, alas.
16:51.04PhotoJim128 yeah, Linux would probably be ok with a reasonable video card.
16:51.21Adysvideo card? you mean that thing integrated to the motherboard right :)
16:51.34PhotoJim:) something like that.
16:51.49Adysi havent tried under 128/integrated gc, but who doesnt have the money to buy that?
16:51.54PhotoJimI will admit that Ubuntu pwns Vista on a Q6600.
16:51.57Adysthats 30 euros
16:52.21laurly---=== VISTA SUCKS! ===---
16:52.32*** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> WoWWiki will never: give you up; let you down; run around and desert you; make you cry; say goodbye; tell a lie and hurt you. Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowi-lounge | CVN channel is live at #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | <+laurly> ---=== VISTA SUCKS! ===---
16:52.37Oseagrees
16:52.54laurlyhmm think i can add that as a key word in mirc so every time someone says vista that pops out :)
16:53.04laurlyadys why am i always in the topic?
16:53.08laurlylast time it was my boobs
16:53.09Adysi think i can do that faster than you
16:53.20*** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> WoWWiki will never: give you up; let you down; run around and desert you; make you cry; say goodbye; tell a lie and hurt you. Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowi-lounge | CVN channel is live at #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | <+laurly> ---=== VISTA SUCKS! ===--- | <+laurly> adys why am i always in the topic?
16:53.40laurlywant my @ back
16:53.52Adystrade you for more boobs.
16:54.03Adysand leave some for Kalroth too!
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16:55.20laurlyhunter in guild offered 1000g for a picture of them adys
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16:56.03pcjlol nice guild laurly
16:56.03Adys1. Google image for boobs
16:56.07Adys2. Post on forums
16:56.11Adys3. ???
16:56.14Adys4. Profit!
16:56.42laurlyhm yeah but my boy friend is in the guild he will be able to testify if its real or not :)
16:56.58Adysphotoshop them
16:57.22AdysPeople asking chicks for nude pics are the proof the humanity is in peril
16:57.28AdysThey dont know there's porn on the internet
16:57.35laurlywhen doing daily quests its best to remember you are on yoru lock and not your where becouse the mobs just laugh when you charge them.
16:57.49Adyshold on, we were talking about boobs
16:58.00laurlywhere <> warior
16:58.11laurlyyour talking about boobs im doing dailys before raid
16:58.24AdysKalroth is afk :(
17:04.13foxlitCurious, spell checker didn't complain about troglodytes
17:07.33Adys## Virgin Media announce that the US is to scrap the dollar and join the Euro.[16]
17:08.41AdysApril 1st is that day in the year where all the big companies can publicly mock those dumb customers that constantly bug them. The ones treating the customer support like slaves, and whining about every single possible thing in the world. Those are the same ones falling for the most gross and stupid jokes
17:08.52AdysI wonder who fell for that one.
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17:11.10ArideniLol
17:11.35AdysKirkburn:  this is for not having supported my idea of a pink wowwiki! http://ubuntuforums.org/
17:11.40AdysSEE YOU NEXT YEAR SUCKER
17:12.03Gourraoh man the MC console game cracks me up every time
17:12.40pcjahhh monaco is actually tolerable now
17:12.40ArideniMC console game?
17:13.09KirkburnAdys, well ... it's also because I'd rather not play on stereotypes as an April Fool
17:13.20Adysweak!
17:13.24GourraArideni: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/moltencore/
17:13.26AdysNext year Im vandalizing the main page
17:13.31Adysand translating everything in french
17:13.39Adysoh yeah baby.
17:13.46ArideniOh, that must be a joke link, lolo
17:16.12ArideniI like that, especially the little screenshots at the bottom.
17:16.28ArideniLol -Blizzard's World of Warcraft: The Molten Core Collector's Edition, also announced today, will include tinted cellophane TV overlays, further increasing the array of colors available to players.
17:16.55ArideniI actually have a 2600
17:19.26Kirkburnhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/ttv/arts.jhtml?bcpid=1358314062&bclid=1363192294&bctid=1482436596 (you may have to watch a short ad first)
17:20.32ArideniLol at the very end, it says in all caps: Blizzard is Hiring! -- lol
17:20.40ArideniGee, I wonder
17:20.44Adyshttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/01/painting-the-town-magenta/
17:20.45Adyshahaha
17:21.51pcjkirkburn
17:21.52pcj#wikia_page { left: -25px; width:80%; border: 1px solid black; background-color: #CC9900;}
17:21.52pcj.widget { border: 1px solid black; background-color: #CC9900;}
17:21.56pcjnow with color accents
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17:29.12Osewhoa!
17:31.56KirkburnY'know, next year I'll run by our April Fool idea with the entire commuity, that way I won't get shouted at because Sharlin doesn't like it
17:32.51Adysthere are idiots everywhere
17:33.04michaelseileroy
17:35.16winkillerrofl the MC trailer
17:35.19winkillerskinning a bear
17:35.43winkillerKirkburn: it was mean. I didn't even try to click a link at first
17:35.47winkillerbrilliantly mean :)
17:36.01Adysit was mine!
17:36.04Adys:(
17:36.33winkillerthen cheers to you
17:36.39winkillerbut Kirkburn defended it more :P
17:36.42Adysbut you cheered Kirkburn
17:36.45pcjadys did you get the wowwiki logo working yet
17:36.48AdysIm all sad now
17:36.55winkillerAdys: good job!
17:36.58KirkburnOnly cause Sharlin directs a lot of his abuse at me
17:37.00AdysYeah pcj im using greasemonkey tho because im lazy
17:37.17pcjkirkburn a menu image like http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Pcj_header_button.png helps imo
17:37.20KirkburnI'm thinking the red link should be the first to get reverted though, since affects more
17:37.37KirkburnEwwww and that colour :P
17:38.05KirkburnIt's sewage coloured :)
17:38.22pcjSewage is usually brown or green
17:39.17Kirkburngreen?
17:39.22pcjhttp://www.onelittlenasty.com/sewage%20outfall.jpg
17:39.22KirkburnWhat do you eat?
17:39.37pcjhttps://mywebspace.wisc.edu/bjulrich/web/Damascus%20Sewage.jpg
17:40.15pcjhttp://www.shunya.net/Pictures/NorthIndia/Varanasi/SewageGanges.jpg
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17:43.34KirkburnI'd suggest that was the blue sky doing that, plus I guess high algae content
17:43.57AdysKirkburn: see village pump
17:44.00Adysposted a small rant
17:44.05pcjYeah, so still not sewage colored
17:44.59KirkburnSurprisingly, I wasn't talking about the colour of something exposed to a bright blue sky and contaminated by high algae content :P
17:46.41pcjOk, show me a picture of sewage that is that color
17:48.26KirkburnNo, I'm no going to fall for looking up sewage pics :P
17:48.35KirkburnI'm right, and you know it :)
17:48.35Addybotdo it do it
17:48.43pcjIt's just yellow, your statements are unfounded
17:49.17KirkburnDepends on your monitor, especially in that colour range
17:49.40KirkburnAffects orange too
17:49.43Adysguys are you really arguing on which color sewage is
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17:50.39KirkburnI'm not, he is :P
17:50.51Adyspcj you hurt the tubes by not using svg for http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Pcj_header_button.png
17:51.01pcjmspaint doesn't support svg
17:51.15Adyshttp://www.inkscape.org/
17:52.30KirkburnAnyway, though the idea is nice, I find the border too visually jarring
17:53.28pcjcoward
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17:54.05KirkburnWell, I want colour, but not distracting colour :P
17:54.39montaggSpeaking of distracting color... Red!
17:54.52Adyshehehe
17:55.05Kasohaha
17:55.07AdysMy hobby: Ruining 04/01 with an excuse
17:55.12KasoIt really is disconcerting
17:55.30montaggI so want to play WoW:MC.
17:55.38AdysIm making a js port of it!
17:55.41montaggAnd I want them to release a zork-like WoW game.
17:55.42Adyshelp me with it!
17:55.50montaggI don't know js! ::Dies.::
17:55.57Adys:(
17:56.06Kirkburnpcj, I was thinking more along the lines of what I have now
17:56.31montaggAdys: But if you need someone to write copy or stand over your shoulder and learn JS as you go, I can do that.
17:56.44Adyscould do !
17:56.50AdysIm waiting.
17:57.04montagg"You enter the Molten Core. It is very hot down here. You remove your robe and wizard hat."
17:57.19Adysoh oh oh yes
17:57.48pcjYeah, that looks dumb and doesn't really help when you're scrolled down
17:59.06montagg"Suddenly, the ground shakes. The great rock walls of the cavern tremble. The wall bursts open, sending shards of ancient stone flying in all directions. Through the dust and smoke, a shape emerges, round and red, and suddenly you hear the Kool-Aid man yell, 'OH YEAH!'"
17:59.14AdysOH YEAH
18:04.31Adyshttp://thespook.deviantart.com/journal/17600253/
18:04.37AdysThose people should kill themselves. :)
18:05.11Adysits causing fucktons of drama on wikipedia aswell lol
18:06.43pcjwhat is
18:07.53pcjwow gg kirkburn
18:08.09KirkburnYour suggestion broke the top right stuff
18:08.16KirkburnI'm trying to work around it
18:08.33pcjtop won't work without position:relative
18:09.35KirkburnAye
18:09.49KirkburnCan't fix then
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18:12.20pcjadys: to switch around the tabs
18:12.20pcj#page_tabs { float:none; }
18:12.20pcj#page_controls { float:right; }
18:12.39Adysthanks
18:13.12KirkburnReporting the content problem, affects all monaco skins
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18:14.14foxlitAdys: examples on VP are pretty fail
18:14.26AdysUsers on VP are pretty fail
18:15.17foxlitWell, can't disagree there.
18:16.08Osegourra: moar whites at http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_Server/NYI#More_or_less_completed :P
18:16.58DottedKirkburn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
18:17.03Dottedhttp://www.wikia.com/wiki/Not_a_valid_Wikia WHY?????
18:18.09Kirkburneh?
18:18.18Oseda.wowwiki?
18:18.26Kirkburnhttp://da.wowwiki.com/wiki/Forside works for me
18:18.35Kirkburn(though da.wowwiki.com doesn't, which I've reported)
18:19.53Adyshttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439858
18:21.06KirkburnAnd people say Linux is hard ...
18:21.30Adyshaha
18:25.01Osekirkburn: is the current color scheme for monaco.css the exact one that will be used?
18:25.13AdysHahahah
18:25.16Kirkburnpretty much, unless people can suggets improvements
18:25.19AdysWikipedia has a problem
18:25.19AdysSorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
18:25.23Adys(Can't contact the database server: All servers busy)
18:25.27Kirkburn(colour highlights especially)
18:25.33AdysIt's good to know we're not alone !
18:25.36OseI liked pcj's golden borders :P
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18:31.21KirkburnOse, too eye catching
18:31.31KirkburnThe focus should be on the content, not on the border
18:31.35Oseaww, ok
18:31.48AdysYou mean on the ads, not the content :)
18:31.49Adyshehe
18:31.54Adys<PROTECTED>
18:32.53Adyskd3
18:33.27pcjpfft it's not too distracting http://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/images/4/4f/Pcj_rc.png
18:33.42pcjmaybe kirkburn has ADD
18:36.16Osecould it be possible for non-watchdogs to view those nifty little !'s ? would make anti-vandalism easier
18:36.47pcj...the whole point of patroller is seeing those
18:37.55Osewhy shouldn't anyone who want's be able to see them?
18:38.14pcjwell there's nothing they can do about it unless they're a patroller
18:38.21pcji mean as far as removing the !
18:38.24Adyshttp://86.205.211.132/~adys/wp.png
18:38.26Adyswin
18:39.05Kasoyour tab bar tells me you're far too obsessed with google
18:39.17OseI know that, but if I could see them, I could know what's been patrolled :P
18:39.23Adyshave to sort their april's fools too
18:39.27pcjwhy would you want to know that
18:39.43Adysose, then ask to be a patroller..?
18:41.31Gourrahttp://eu.starcraft2.com/features/terran/taurenmarine.xml ehehe..
18:42.00OseIs it that easy?
18:43.01laurlyi love the guys in #debian
18:45.36GourraOse: you'll have to apply first
18:45.53Adyslaurly: you are stalking me in #mysql too :(
18:46.39laurlysupose i could join #ubuntu since i would like to know why it wount install on the server sunday
18:46.46laurlybut oh well debian works
18:47.04KirkburnIf anyone comes across videos on the site, they need to be changed to use <youtube>code</youtube>
18:47.04Adysim there too be careful
18:47.24laurlyi know your there i just checked your channels.
18:47.32laurlygood stalker must know where the victum is.
18:47.34Adyslol
18:47.43laurlynow give @ back
18:48.23Adysonce Kirkburn's asleep
18:50.32laurlythats what you always say. then you get a headake and i dont get any
18:50.39pcjlol
18:50.44pcjnow that's quotable
18:50.59Adyslol
18:51.29laurlyi missed you guys while my pc was messed up its so nice being back.
18:51.39pcjhugs laurly
18:51.46Adysyou were gone ?
18:52.19laurlybet you missed the bot adys
18:52.25Adysoh yea
18:53.03laurlynow let me go finish the wiki posting class.
18:55.15laurlywhen will the red links go away....
18:55.27Adysthink ill remove them
18:55.39Adysif thats ok Kirkburn k
18:55.41Adys-k
18:55.49KirkburnPlease
18:55.53laurlyYES PLEASE
18:55.57pcjjust use the monaco skin, duh
18:56.38DuTempeteI missed you, Laurly!!!!
18:56.47pcjhi dutempete
18:56.52DuTempetehi pcj
18:57.03DuTempeteThese guys are such pigs :(
18:57.08pcjsrsly
18:57.51DuTempeteand Keolah doesn't talk enough
18:58.01Adyslaurly: Refresh your cache
18:58.28laurlythank you <3
18:58.40laurlypink?
18:58.49laurlyat least its better then red.
18:58.51Adys... couldnt resist
18:59.05DuTempetehehe
18:59.12DuTempetenow do that skin-wide, Adys :P
18:59.24laurlythinks adys is really abusing power now
18:59.30AdysBah
18:59.42AdysApril 1st is the only day I can vandalize as admin without losing powers
18:59.47DuTempetehehe
18:59.48Adysbtw this pink is awesome.
18:59.53DuTempeteoh!
18:59.55DuTempeteI know!
19:00.00laurlybarbie pink?
19:00.02DuTempeteomgZ
19:00.29KirkburnOkay, Adys, no
19:00.30Adyslaurly:  there, removed entirely :P
19:00.44Kirkburnwoot
19:01.15Adysdude
19:01.20Adysthe recent changes are hot in pink
19:01.21laurlygood adys /pat
19:01.55GourraOse: all servers added
19:02.15Oseawesome
19:02.32Gourraat least the part until german
19:02.47AdysKirkburn: When do you want to roll back the mp?
19:02.57Gourra"Blutkessel" no
19:03.17KirkburnShould probably ask PanSola
19:03.22Gourraso..many..dreadlords..
19:03.23Adys[21:03:11] <+Starnes2> User [[User:DuTempete]] Large removal [[User:DuTempete/Warlock project]] (-23767) Diff: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:DuTempete/Warlock_project&diff=1291317&oldid=1276906&rcid=1274386 "vandal for a day"
19:03.28AdysDUTEMPETE I BAN U
19:03.33DuTempeteBWAHAHAHAHA
19:03.39Kirkburnlol
19:04.04DuTempeteI could do it to the Warlock page :P
19:04.49DuTempeteBut you can't ban me for wiping out my user subpage :P
19:05.13Adysi can ban you for uh
19:05.39Adysspamming the chan
19:07.37Adyshey Kirkburn could we use website images instead of static images for some stuff
19:07.39Adyslike http://images.wikia.com/common/skins-200804.1/common/images/Arr_r.png
19:08.08Adys(which actually could be redone as svg....)
19:08.32KirkburnIt's on the requests
19:08.36Adysok
19:08.57AdysEW
19:09.13AdysKirkburn:  did you try going to an inexisting article ?
19:09.23Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Udfg
19:10.09DuTempetepouts.
19:10.18DuTempeteKirkburn won't let me wipe the Warlock page.
19:10.25DuTempetecuz he's a meanie
19:10.39Adyswant me to ban him?
19:10.46DuTempeteyes!
19:11.02DuTempetethose meanie Wikia employees are trying to take over our wiki
19:11.07DuTempeteban them all!!!
19:11.12Osethanks gourra :)
19:11.19*** mode/#wowwiki [+b *!employees@wikia.com] by Adys
19:11.26DuTempetehaha
19:11.28Adysthere
19:11.30GourraO.0
19:11.33*** mode/#wowwiki [-b *!employees@wikia.com] by Adys
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19:12.04Kirkburnlol
19:12.30KirkburnOpinions please ... real of not? http://www.rainfallfilms.com/
19:12.35Kirkburn*or
19:12.52Adyswish it was real
19:12.58Adysbeen confirmed as hoax
19:13.12KirkburnAdys, thanks for spotting the white issue. not sure what it is though
19:13.26DuTempeteoh, that's fuckin' hot
19:13.28Kirkburn(same issue as previously I bet, no idea how/if it was fixed)
19:13.30DuTempetecries.
19:13.33KirkburnAdys, confirmed where?
19:13.33Adysdiv.noarticletext {allinone.css?2008... (line 4)
19:13.33Adysbackground:#FFFFFF none repeat scroll 0% 0%;
19:13.36DuTempeteI want Zelda movie :(
19:13.44Adysign
19:13.48Adysforums i think
19:13.58Adysand yeah, i want zelda movie
19:15.43DuTempetedamn you, pcj
19:15.44pcjwhat
19:15.44DuTempetebetter not actually get deleted
19:15.44AdysKirkburn:  http://images.wikia.com/common/skins-200804.1/monaco/css/allinone.css?20080331160629
19:15.45Adysthis is the one
19:15.45KirkburnAdys, fixed
19:15.50Adyshot
19:16.29Adys[21:16:12] <+Starnes2> User [[User:DuTempete]] Possible gibberish? [[User:DuTempete/Warlock project]] (+23700) Diff: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:DuTempete/Warlock_project&diff=1291347&oldid=1291326&rcid=1274416 "you people suck."
19:16.34Adysstop gibberishing
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19:16.56DuTempetestop?  I only did it once :P
19:17.15Adyswonder if you all remember when we couldnt edit the site css
19:17.25Adysand had to create hacky, float divs to fix shit.
19:17.46KirkburnI do remember >_<
19:17.49Adyshaha
19:17.53laurlyLOL
19:17.59KirkburnSince I had to bloody fix it all :)
19:18.06Adyslies i helped
19:18.12KirkburnYeah, yeah, whatever :P
19:18.15laurlybusted evil teenager figured out i have more then once soda a day. when shes only allowed one
19:18.17AdysKirkburn:  did you see my april's fools?!
19:18.17Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys
19:18.19Kirkburn(that Adys, always misremembering stuff)
19:18.30KirkburnYes I did
19:18.38AdysFUNNY INNIT??
19:18.54laurlymine putting a big vista logo would have been better
19:19.02Adyscouldnt be arsed
19:19.08Adysi went to microsoft.com and took the first link
19:19.19laurlyi considered nulling out the guilds dkp :)
19:19.36Adysthis morning you gave them each 100 dkp no?
19:19.53laurlyhehe yeah put that on the forums insted they didnt fall for it.
19:20.01MentalPowerKirkburn: if thats a hoax, its a rather well made (and expensive) one
19:20.15Adysoh
19:20.23Adysi bet the molten core trailer costed loads of money
19:20.32laurly100 dkp for everyone!  
19:20.32laurlyatthena
19:20.32laurly
19:20.32laurly2
19:20.32laurly
19:20.33laurly34
19:20.35laurlyoops
19:20.57laurly100 dkp for everyone!   34 views.  only 2 replys :)
19:22.02laurlyyou know i really should comment the bot or i will end up doing stupid crap more often
19:22.42MentalPowerAdys: nah, thats just video editing and stuff, the zelda one has a load of actors and a lot of CGI work
19:22.48MentalPowerand some sets too
19:23.05laurlyis antispam new?
19:23.06MentalPowerI'm DL'ing the HD version to scrutinize it
19:24.38Adyshttp://www.runsilent.org/client/rainfall/rainfall_reel_v2_watermark.mov
19:25.02AdysIm not getting anything, but that may just be a redir :)
19:25.44AdysActually, wrong url
19:27.57pcjyay US servers back down
19:30.55Fisker-awesome
19:30.57Fisker-awesome to the max
19:37.44KirkburnAdys, gallery look okay? http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King#Screenshots
19:38.05Adysye
19:38.20Adyscould use a hover, accompanied with a div-wide href
19:38.55KirkburnHover you say?
19:39.08KirkburnCan try
19:39.14Kirkburndiv wide href, doubt it
19:39.52laurlyslow wiki?
19:45.59KirkburnAdys, hover done - doesn't work perfectly for verical images, but "good enough"
19:46.06Kirkburn*vertical
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19:49.13Osegourra, more done on http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_Server/NYI#More_or_less_completed
19:49.24Osenow comes the hard part...
19:49.25Gourrak
19:49.54AdysKirkburn:  looks good
19:50.11Adysand yea sup with vertical images
19:50.17Adysthats weird
19:50.31Adysoh ffs
19:50.35KirkburnOdd effect, you can see if on the normal skin
19:50.36Adysits the gallery thing
19:50.38Adysrecentering
19:50.49KirkburnSee borders on http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King?useskin=wowwiki
19:50.51Adys<div class="thumb" style="padding: 13px 0pt; width: 150px;">
19:50.52Adys<div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; width: 120px;">
19:50.56Adysits the second div
19:51.02Adysthat needs to be css'd
19:51.11KirkburnIt is
19:51.11Adysand doesnt have a damn id...,
19:51.18Kirkburndiv.thumb div
19:51.26Adystrue
19:53.12Adysalso kirkburn
19:53.21Adyscan we get prettier tabs
19:53.34AdysArticle and Talk tabs are just ugly
19:53.41Adysgive them a nice hover like before :)
19:53.47laurlykicks wiki
19:53.59Adysregisters Wikikicks
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19:54.48PhotoJimregisters wikikicksregistrations
19:54.59pcjwell is it slate or charcoal kirkburn
19:56.53laurlywell wiki_page_cls works now.
19:57.16Adysthats for blanking?
20:03.53Kirkburnpcj, is what what?
20:04.09KirkburnSlate is a different skin, I'm just stealing images from the other
20:05.07pcjah
20:15.38MentalPowerAdys: http://wow.mentalpower.us/Zelda/legendofzelda_filmtrailer_040108_qthd.mov
20:15.50Adysyah i got it :)
20:15.53Adysits quite amazing
20:16.12Adysstill though, got my doubts
20:16.14MentalPowerits *very* well made
20:16.18AdysYeah
20:16.25MentalPowerbut the giveaway is the credits
20:16.32MentalPowernon-standard format
20:16.49MentalPowerso yeah, its fake
20:16.54MentalPowertoo bad tho
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20:27.37Adyshttp://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/262133276/safely-send-nsfw-links http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/01/twatrnet-adult-twitter-clone/
20:27.42AdysHelp, Web 2.0 is ringing
20:27.50AdysHE WANTS HIS WEBSITES BACK
20:28.06Kirkburnhttp://www.funnyordie.com/videos/74 <-- awesome
20:28.09Osecan anyone help me with a little issue on http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_Server ?
20:29.07OseI need the template to auto-categorize players IF {{{1}}} & {{{2}}} are BOTH present, UNLESS cat=no is used as an parameter
20:29.25MapManI just love waiting over 2 weeks for blizzards reply
20:29.40Adys{{#if:{{{1}}}|{{#if:{{{2}}}|...}}}}}
20:29.56Adyshttp://adsense.blogspot.com/2008/04/introducing-adsense-for-conversations.html
20:35.25Osewhat about cat=no ?
20:36.18Adys{{#if:{{{1}}}|{{#if:{{{2}}}|{{#ifeq:{{{cat}}}|no|...}}}}}}}
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20:38.54GourraWhat do you think of HKO Insider?Hello Kitty forever! I love HKO Insider.1166 (49.2%)
20:38.54GourraBad idea. Let's go back to Azeroth, please.1204 (50.8%)
20:38.55Gourrawow.
20:39.20Osegourra...
20:39.28GourraOse...
20:41.17Osenow it doesen't show at all adys...
20:41.47OseIf it works properly, two categories will appear on http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:User_Server
20:44.05laurlygot it.
20:44.14laurlyping pcj
20:44.16Gourragot milk?
20:44.20pcjhi laurly :)
20:44.28laurlywant that link for npc bot testing?
20:44.31pcjsure
20:44.58Adysbaah
20:45.04Adyswhen are we getting xml parsing
20:45.15Adyslaurly you ever parsed xml with php
20:45.29laurlyhow do you think guild bot reads armory hun?
20:45.40laurlywant my parser?
20:45.41Adysartificial intelligency?
20:45.43winkillerlag wipe on Leo 4%
20:45.45Adyswould be lovely
20:45.57Oseadys: {{#if:{{{1}}}|{{#if:{{{2}}}|{{#ifeq:{{{cat}}}|no|[[Category:{{{1|}}} {{#switch:{{{2|}}}|EU|Europe=_EU|US=_US|_Europe}} Players]]}}}}}} what's wrong with this?
20:46.00winkillerworld server down. what a joke
20:46.14Adysose: theres a typo between the two {{
20:46.17foxlitbeyond it being practically unreadable? :)
20:46.32Osethe TWO {{ ?
20:46.37Adysyeah those two
20:46.42laurlyhttp://pastebin.com/m5d6024
20:46.45Ose-.-
20:46.47Adysthanks :)
20:47.21Osewhat typo?
20:47.30AdysHere, THAT one
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20:47.58Ose...
20:48.16Oseslaps Adys with a particulary large trout
20:48.45AdysHey here's a hint
20:48.49Adysits next to another }
20:49.36AdysHAHA THAT WAS A JOKE! April's fool's day! HAH. Its not next to another } in fact. that'd be too easy
20:49.49Ose...
20:49.53Adysright, back to checking this parser.
20:52.08Osecan anyone help? Adys' information isn't very... constructive...
20:53.28Adyslaurly: wasnt there built in support for xml in php?
20:53.39laurlyyup soap
20:54.10laurlydidnt have it complied into php on the old server install it only had php4
20:54.14laurlynew one has php5
20:54.30Adyshm
20:55.16Adyssounds decent
20:55.31Adysugh should do that tomorrow :/
20:55.51Osetoday is fix user server template, yes?
20:56.01AdysNo
20:56.11AdysI still have Addybot's code to finish up for xml parsing from irc
20:56.11Oseapril's foolz?
20:56.26Adysand dbc parsing :/
20:56.35Adysnot even that i still havent downloaded the patch
20:56.43Oseok, who else can help?
20:56.51Adyspcj help him
20:57.07Osepcj R help, yesno?
20:57.10laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Artificer_Drenin  <-- isnt it pritty
20:57.19laurlypcj is helping bot testing you cant have him
20:57.24pcjlol
20:57.42OseNOES!
20:57.43Adyshey laurly, i was thinking
20:57.55pcjoh no
20:58.02pcjhides under a table until adys is done
20:58.13Adysthe other day i was designing a template that votes up or down coords on a map
20:58.25Adyswith a coordination relevancy
20:58.53Adysvotes are sent to two pages under xml format
20:59.02Adysthe user page, and the map coord page
20:59.12laurlythinks adys has gone xml crazy
20:59.30laurlyFUCK THERES A HUGE SPIDER ON THE WALL!!!!!
20:59.33Adyswhen an user votes up a dot, it adds it to the map coords with a votecount of 1
20:59.39AdysOH SHI
20:59.48Adysoh
20:59.50Osezomgz
21:00.03Adysand anyway
21:00.06Adysthe point is
21:00.20Adysa template calculates the amount of votes per coordinate
21:00.31Adysmerges close coordinates under a defined scale
21:00.39OseCALL 911! FBI! CIA! BATMAN! WE MUST SAVE LAURLY!
21:00.56Adysand makes the dots more or less transparent given their % of votes
21:01.12Adysi think this will kill the wiki
21:01.15Adyswanna try it?
21:02.06laurlysure Kirkburn has looked bored for the last few weeks
21:02.14Adyslol
21:02.54Adysbtw Kirkburn
21:03.01Adystime to revert the main page? :p
21:03.15KirkburnYeah, why not
21:03.44Adyskk
21:03.51mgrinshponYou guys didn't pull off the switch nearly as good as Guild Wiki did.
21:04.11Adysguild wiki didnt have the RED LINKS™
21:04.19KirkburnWe didn't have the ability to either
21:04.25OseI blame adys
21:04.31Oseanyway, g'nite
21:05.24pcjkirkburn urlencode is buggy
21:05.57KirkburnTalk page it
21:05.57pcjpages like http://www.wowwiki.com/Ango%27rosh_Shaman (see Wowhead URL) with apostrophes in a link that's url encoded is being handled badly
21:08.20laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Bloodsail_Sea_Dog  to many locks?
21:09.05AdysPOSSIBLE GIBBERISH
21:09.14laurly:)
21:09.33Adysbtw laurly
21:09.45Adysill soon have a script to differenciate female to male npcs
21:09.47laurlywhat did i do now?
21:09.48Adyswith their race
21:09.49Adysetc
21:09.59laurlygood :)
21:10.05Adyswell right now no database has that info
21:10.15laurlynopes thats the problem
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21:10.29Adysim doing it the smarter way tho :)
21:10.56Adyswhich reminds me
21:11.02laurlypcj did you ever get the tab thingie working? or should we just dump the tables in the pages
21:11.05Adysive done fuck all today
21:11.30laurlymy goal is to go to bed before 2 am today.
21:12.05Adyspst?
21:12.10Adysits 11pm here
21:12.15laurlysame
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21:13.31pcjyeah i didn't get it working on IE laurly, it's just too stubborn and lacks too much in the way of debugging
21:13.45AdysNO ONE GIVES A DAMN ABOUT IE
21:13.56Adysmake it work in ff
21:14.05pcjit works fine in fx
21:14.25Adysthen everything's fine
21:14.27laurlywe cant put it up if it only works in firefox
21:14.34Adyswanna bet
21:15.04Adysahahah
21:15.10Adyswow i just found an old file
21:15.33Adysleech-usarmory-20071114.xml
21:15.51Adysarea: Zul'Gurub, areaData: normal:1977, classification: 3, dropRate: 1, id: 15114, maxLevel: 63, minLevel: 63, name: Gahz'ranka, type: Not specified, url: bossData: normal:15114
21:16.18Adysoh yeah
21:16.21Adysthose are only npcs
21:16.30Adyslaurly you want that?
21:17.18Adys86.205.211.132/~adys/armory.gz
21:17.22mxsI've been wondering about that recently ... how big is a complete dump of current armory data ? (i.e. reasonably compact representation of the data contained therein), and do Blizzard ban you if you aggressively dump it ? :)
21:17.32AdysWell
21:17.42AdysI very aggressively dumped it a couple months back
21:17.51Adysas in, over 300 000 downloads
21:17.59Adysand I have yet to see a slowdown
21:18.00mxsthat seems a bit on the low side
21:18.05Gourrawinkiller, the server seem stable today
21:18.19Adysdepends mxs
21:18.24Adysim talking only items
21:18.29mxsdo you go sequentially, or do you hammer them with high concurrency ? :)
21:18.31mxsah ok
21:18.38Adysjust chain wget
21:19.02mxsI meant the scale of something like wowjutsu
21:19.12Adysdont think they'd mind
21:19.22Adyseither way get a proxy or whatever
21:19.26mxsFor some reason I have IMMENSE fun when playing with big numbers (be they measured in bandwidth, rows of data, or table joins :>)
21:19.35Adysoh
21:19.40Adyswanna play with my xml data?
21:19.42Adysit has overflows
21:19.55mxsnot atm, I have some datasets of other stuff to work on for university ;)
21:20.07Adysbut it has OVERFLOWS
21:20.10mxsand when I mean "big", I mean the kind of big that mySQL croaks at :>
21:20.11Adyshow orgasmic is that
21:20.51mxsas for getting a proxy : not really an option. Public proxies are way too slow to get any work of that kind done
21:20.53Adysidlistreftb.xml ~ 841.1 MiB
21:21.21AdysThat thing above is only item refs btw.
21:21.31mxshehe :)
21:21.52AdysIm creating a database of item references. each ID is assigned a source
21:22.17Adysingame, with build # and date
21:22.19mxswhat's the purpose of said database ?
21:22.25Adysarmory, with region, build # and date
21:22.31Adysitem.dbc, etc
21:22.38Adyscompare stuff, mxs
21:22.48mxscompare builds ?
21:22.51AdysOnce you yank all the items that are in common in all the bases
21:23.06Adysyou can get a grasp of which items are uncommon, which ranges etc
21:23.14Adysand eventually even which servers to dig on
21:23.28Adysur datas, lemme mine itz
21:24.20mxsso just a grand big way to figure out which guild gets stuff killed first ? :>
21:24.50mxsI FINALLY got my hands on an item 13335 :>
21:25.00Adyslol
21:25.09Adysno
21:25.09mxsyears late, but I have it
21:25.24Adysmore like figuring which server gms use their tools on
21:27.55Adysok
21:28.00Adystime to start parsing dbcs
21:28.33mxsMy server just came back up, so I think it's time to prance around on my [[13335]] instead :>
21:28.47Adys13335?
21:28.54mxsLook it up, item id 13335 :P
21:29.01Adys!item 1335
21:29.03Adys!item 13335
21:29.09Adys!item 13335
21:29.14Adysoh
21:29.16Adysnice job
21:29.32mxstook 3 years of runs :P
21:29.49AdysI am cursed with mounts
21:30.10AdysI left the stratholme run where the only alliance mount dropped on my server for a good year, just before rivendare
21:30.26Adysdid the same with zg for the first raptor, back when it was rare as shit
21:30.51Adysand the only time i ran attumen, it was as a non raider, and ofc the mount dropped and i had to pass :)
21:31.13laurlypats Adys there there
21:31.23AdysBe my mount
21:31.29AdysOh shit, that was for PMs
21:31.44AdysActually
21:31.47Adysthat was for Kalroth
21:31.50laurlyhow do i end up with so many view source windows open
21:32.02mxslaurly: curiosity
21:32.08Adyslaurly: something to do with your right click button
21:32.46laurlygues its time to start testing the npc bot :/
21:33.01Adysyay
21:33.08Adysi still havent extracted a single dbc here
21:33.23Adysoh ffs i need the patch i think too
21:33.29Adysmight aswell work on latest version
21:38.23AdysWhen was 2.4 released?
21:38.26Adyslast week?
21:39.21laurlyyup
21:39.23Adysgot it :P
21:39.30Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Public_client_builds
21:40.11laurlyhttp://www.wowhead.com/  <--- now thats funny
21:40.16foxlitAdys: and the only time i ran attumen,... i had to pass
21:40.29foxlitYou really need another guild :)
21:40.41AdysNo, as i said it was as a non raider
21:40.45AdysI wasnt in a guild :p
21:40.48foxlitSo?
21:41.04AdysI passed to fill a spot, i was barely playing at the time
21:41.09Adysit was only fair to pass
21:41.31foxlitI object to "had", not "chose to" :)
21:41.44mxsAdys: bah, I just recently deleted my client patch collection
21:41.46foxlitIf it's the latter, the discussion is completely uninteresting
21:41.49AdysDont think anyone would have liked me to patch =P
21:41.50Adyspass
21:41.55Adysmxs i hate you
21:42.02Adysparticularly if those contained BC beta patches
21:42.04Adysand installers
21:42.15mxslet me check
21:43.44mxsyeah, they are gone
21:43.47mxsneeded the space
21:44.14mxsit was about 120gigs of patches. Might even have included beta patches since I was in beta as well
21:44.59laurlydecides its timet o copy all those patches to the server for the fun of it
21:45.18mxslaurly : they were on the server, but I really needed the space :P
21:45.19winkillerGourra: dunno, was online from 19:30 only - and we had that one lagspike at ~22:30
21:45.36Adysbah mxs, can you check if you dont have still one thats not on this list
21:45.41mxsyou can still get a bunch of patches from filefront though, and I believe allakhazam members have a decent archive. Not of all locales, obviously.
21:45.44Adyshttp://www.pastey.net/84897
21:45.45laurlyi just riped the crapy old 20g noisie as hell disk out and put in a nice 80g one i have loads of space
21:46.01winkillerdidn't get the convo, I still have 10gb of old patches. anyone needs?
21:46.09Adysyes winkiller
21:46.13Adysbc beta patches
21:46.16winkillererr no
21:46.19winkillernot so old
21:46.20Adysinstallers of all sorts
21:46.22Adysbah
21:46.27Adyscheck if you have one thats not in
21:46.30winkillerI'll make a list sec
21:46.30mxsthe ptr patches are all gone
21:46.31Adyshttp://www.pastey.net/84897
21:48.12winkillerfound 3 already
21:50.17rjmuhm, worldofwarcraft.com down?
21:51.21rjmhm, guess I just had a big lag spike, nvm
21:51.28Adyshttp://www.nathanmx.com/mpq/
21:51.28Adyshmm
21:51.55laurlynight guys
21:52.00Adysnight laurly
21:52.10pcjie fails http://www.sixteensmallstones.org/ie-javascript-bugs-overriding-internet-explorers-documentgetelementbyid-to-be-w3c-compliant-exposes-an-additional-bug-in-getattributes
21:52.40winkillerAdys: I got many not on the list
21:52.45winkillercan upload em tomorrow if you want
21:52.50AdysSure
21:52.55Adyscan you make me a list of the ones not on it?
21:53.09winkillerbit much work to copy/paste :P
21:53.14winkillerbut ok
21:53.18Adysmake me a full list
21:53.21Adysill check :P
21:53.22winkillerok, np
21:53.40KirkburnHoly mother of ... it's working. It's actually working! /me cries with joy ... http://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:World_of_Warcraft ... works on both FF2 and IE7!
21:53.47winkillermost are enGB. some are deDE
21:53.53KirkburnBloody 1px difference, hidden it on Fx using z-index
21:54.07DuTempeteYay!
21:54.12DuTempetedances with Kirkburn
21:54.16Adyswinkiller:  Dont upload the deDE unless you're planning to delete them
21:54.25AdysI only need enGB
21:54.36winkillerno, will keep em for a while
21:54.40Adysand what the fuck, since when are BLPs jpgs?
21:55.37Adyswow
21:55.39Adysthis sucks
21:55.45Adyswtf
21:58.11winkillerAdys: http://stuff.art-core.org/patch.txt
21:58.22winkiller2 folders, seperated at ===========
21:58.27winkillerwith tree /A /F
21:58.31Adysdownloader?
21:58.57KirkburnThis page, can people on various browsers test it - http://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:World_of_Warcraft
21:59.01winkillerI kept everything. downloader and patch
21:59.08KirkburnWant to know that the tabs don't mess up on anything
21:59.14KirkburnIf not, gonna implement probably tomorrow
21:59.23Adystabs are fine here, gecko 1.9 linux
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21:59.29winkillerwill test on linux laptop tomorrow
21:59.39Kirkburnthanks
21:59.40winkillerepiphany and konqui
21:59.48Adystests in konqueror
22:00.05winkillernvm, I'll look all browsers if I remember
22:00.18winkillerwin-safare *EXPLOITLOL*
22:00.27KirkburnDue to weird positioning bug, IE displays them 1px higher than Fx, which annoyed the hell out of me
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22:00.48AdysTabs are not rounded on konqueror
22:00.52winkillernot for much money I'll ever do CSS again
22:00.55Adysnot using canvas?
22:01.16KirkburnSo, I've position:relative and z-indexed them so the overlap (on standardised broswers) is hidden
22:01.20winkillerKirkburn: you know http://browsershots.org/ ?
22:01.37Kirkburnoooooh
22:01.49KirkburnAdys, tabs rounding, should be adding more methods?
22:01.49winkillerqueue can take a while though
22:02.03AdysKirkburn:  ?
22:02.12Adyswinkiller:  you got some interesting patches here
22:02.17KirkburnThe tab rounding uses -moz stuff
22:02.19winkillerhehe
22:02.24Adysoh
22:02.24winkilleris a virtual messie
22:02.25Adyswell
22:02.25KirkburnAre there other methods other browsers use?
22:02.32Adyscanvas is the standard
22:02.39Adysbut its overly complicated
22:02.41Kirkburncanvas?
22:02.45Adys<canvas>
22:02.57Adysotherwise you go with png images
22:03.02Adysfor pretty corners
22:03.03Adysbut meh
22:03.16winkillerIE 7.9.5730.11 - no rounded corners
22:03.18Adysthose are not cross browser compatible usually.. just go for canvas if you have some courage
22:03.36AdysBut if you dont want to, id say uh
22:03.43winkillersafari-win - no rounded corner
22:03.47Adysseparate the tabs about 2-3 px or something
22:03.55winkillerand spacing off
22:03.55Adysbecause they look odd
22:04.47Kirkburnwinkiller, spacing off?
22:04.58winkillersec, screeny with 4 browsers inc
22:06.33foxlitborder rounding is mozilla specific
22:06.55winkillerKirkburn: http://stuff.art-core.org/temp/4browsers.jpg
22:07.03foxlitso you can really only expect it to show up on gecko
22:07.39Kirkburnwinkiller, I think you need to refresh the cache on some of them
22:07.45winkillergnah :)
22:08.11Kirkburn3 of them say the wrong patch info :P
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22:09.08KirkburnWhy in hell does Fx insist on showing the underline? o_O
22:09.15Adyswhere?
22:09.18KirkburnIt's barely hidden behind the tabs ... but it's there
22:09.35KirkburnOnce I separated them, it became obvious
22:09.47Sky2042lol, blizz took a potshot at coreiel and tseric with 'The Molten Core"'s trailer.
22:10.01Adysno.
22:10.06Adysits an older meme
22:10.28KirkburnI would also think it might be to honour them if it were referencing them
22:10.47winkillerKirkburn: http://stuff.art-core.org/temp/4browsers2.jpg
22:11.14KirkburnLast one is Safari?
22:11.14AdysSafari: Standard compliance until you cant hack it anymore.
22:11.26Adyseat that, IE hacker!
22:11.27winkilleryes
22:11.27KirkburnSafari, out of all of them fail? Meh ...
22:11.38KirkburnThanks winkiller :)
22:11.40Adysmore like safari doesnt like your ie hack :)
22:11.47winkillernp
22:11.56Adyskirkburn's dead
22:11.57winkilleras long as I don't have to debug it
22:11.59winkillerHAHAHAHA
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22:12.11Adyswe did not make fun of you in your abscence
22:12.25KirkburnDon't worry, I didn't just do that
22:12.32pcjNeither did we
22:12.37KirkburnIt's all in your minds
22:12.47winkillerAdys: just tell me what patches you want and I'll upload
22:12.55Adysuhm
22:13.04Adysi want to find my mpqeditor first
22:13.09winkillerno hurry
22:13.10winkillerpref via mail to fa@art-core.org
22:13.12KirkburnAdys, you don't see underlines poking through on Fx?
22:13.42Adysoh
22:13.43Adysyes
22:13.52KirkburnWhy, why the hell >_<
22:14.47AdysKirkburn:  a:hover { text-decoration: none }
22:15.06Adysand give the tabs div an id :(
22:16.01KirkburnThey have text-decoration defined already :/
22:16.08KirkburnSee top of http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Common.css
22:16.09Adyshover too?
22:16.17Adysa {allinone.css?2008... (line 4)
22:16.18Adysbackground:transparent none repeat scroll 0% 0%;
22:16.18Adyscolor:#002BB8;
22:16.18Adystext-decoration:none;
22:16.22Adysthats what i see, sorry for spam
22:17.01KirkburnNot that CSS?
22:17.10AdysYep but its the css that counts
22:17.24AdysQuestion Kirkburn
22:17.37Adyswhy do you do <a>span...</a>
22:17.44Adyswhen you can just do <a> ? :)
22:17.57KirkburnNot in wiktext
22:18.04AdysARGH DOH
22:18.06Adysfuck that
22:18.38AdysKirkburn: Give div an id and do this
22:19.09Adys#mptabs a:hover { text-decoration: none !important; }
22:19.22AdysIt's not the span the problem
22:19.45Adysbecause for the browser you are hovering the element that has an href
22:19.51Adysinstead of the child element
22:19.56Adysin this case, it's <a>
22:20.12Adysthats why it ignores the text decoration set
22:20.20Kirkburnah
22:21.55Kirkburnhugs Adys
22:22.01Adys:D
22:22.06Adysworks?
22:23.49KirkburnSure does
22:24.04Adyswoot
22:27.06Adysshould go to bed ugh
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22:32.47Adys!i 30239
22:33.42Adysomg
22:33.50Adysdbc parsing sure is gonna be easy
22:34.06Sky2042Kirkburn: what did you do to the colors of inactive links? :(
22:34.48Adysdude not link color again
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22:35.13Sky2042of course links color again. who brought it up previously?
22:36.29Adyshttp://www.sourcepeek.com/wiki/Category:World_of_Warcraft_DBC_Files
22:36.31Adysoh my god
22:36.39Adysthis is gonna be easy as pie
22:36.54KirkburnSky2042, ??
22:36.55Adysman i wish i was going to bed :(
22:37.06Sky2042all the red links are that evil darker red.
22:37.11DuTempetemaybe you should go to bed, then
22:37.43Adysno way
22:37.52Adyswell actually
22:37.56Adysill write that parser tomorrow :(
22:37.58Adysnight
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22:39.42Jasonbourneanyone know what's going on with the servers?
22:39.50KirkburnSky2042, which skin?
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22:39.57Sky2042wowwiki, what else?
22:40.16Sky2042i don't know if it was the changes to wowwiki.css or common.css
22:40.45KirkburnSky, fixed
22:40.49Sky2042oh good
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22:43.48KirkburnSky2042, try out the new skin :P
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22:43.59Sky2042monaco?
22:44.02Sky2042it went live?
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22:44.47KirkburnCheck my talk page
22:44.59KirkburnNeed testers over the next week
22:45.05KirkburnWant to iron out any and all bugs
22:45.06Sky2042oh, that i saw.
22:45.12Sky2042test it out using custom skin?
22:45.20Sky2042or one of the other skins?
22:45.38KirkburnUsing the method shown there - what you will get is exactly what the skin will be
22:46.54Sky2042sapphire
22:46.56Sky2042ok
22:48.14Sky2042glad it's sapphire
22:52.38montaggAdys: If you like js, there's something you might consider doing if you have free time: there are some interesting iPhone apps that pull Wikipedia pages and format them properly for the iPhone, one being wikipedia.comoki.com. If you could write something like that for WoWWiki, I would love you forever.
22:53.53KirkburnSky2042, er ... what?
22:53.58Sky2042Kirkburn: as an addition, do you think you could ask wikia to give the icons on the "edit-bar" specific ids?
22:54.11Sky2042would be nice not to be required to display them
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22:54.31Sky2042um, are they the same color as previously visited internal links, as before?
22:55.40Sky2042the N and m in recent changes need perking up
22:55.55KirkburnNo, making interwiki and external links a different type of blue
22:56.53Sky2042:/
22:56.58Sky2042ah wlel
22:57.31KirkburnIntentionally
22:58.30KirkburnInterwikis are external links, so I think it's cheeky to make them identical to internal ones
22:58.42Sky2042they've never been identical to internal ones.
22:58.53Sky2042"previously visited"
22:59.25KirkburnAlthough, it appears I've made visited external and visited internal links the same colour, which I think works
22:59.25Sky2042thinks he and Kirkburn are talking about the same thing.
23:02.36DuTempeteit isn't quite the same, Kirkburn, but might as well be
23:04.08KirkburnN and m are back to normal
23:04.57KirkburnOokay, that's enough for today
23:04.59KirkburnTime for a shower
23:05.13KirkburnSky2042, spot anything else, add to my talk page :)
23:05.19Sky2042naturally
23:05.47DuTempeteheh... I just wrote "<----- poop?" on someone's manuscript
23:06.17DuTempetebecause I think she was talking about bird poop, but it's amusing nonetheless
23:08.10Sky2042Kirkburn: do you have any idea for when the stress tests for the variety of extensions are going to be done?
23:08.29KirkburnIt's being done
23:09.04Sky2042ok, let me rephrase. do you have  a timeline as to when they'll go live?
23:09.13KirkburnWouldn't expect anything back until next week though, this week they're doing optimising
23:09.26Sky2042cool.
23:09.37KirkburnSkin can't go live until then anyway
23:09.49Sky2042heh
23:09.50Kirkburn(There's skin stuff currently turned off)
23:10.03Sky2042something's not quite right with [[Patch 2.4.1]], though I can't place it :/
23:11.36Sky2042Kirkburn: why is there so much space between {{patchbox}} and the title-line?
23:11.51DuTempeteomg, Sky2042, he said he was going to take a shower :P
23:12.05Sky2042he'll come back to a ping... :o
23:12.06DuTempeteand that any other issues needed to be posted on his talk page
23:12.18DuTempeteThat doesn't mean you can abuse him :P
23:12.28DuTempeteThat's my job :P
23:12.44Sky2042it's always been my job to abuse him, you're just better at it than I am.
23:12.51DuTempetelol
23:13.09DuTempetelay off for a bit.  Give the man a break :P
23:13.37Sky2042wha wha wha?!?!?! did i hear what I just thought I heard?
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23:31.20Kirochiguten abend
23:32.55DuTempetemorning
23:33.28Dottedgod middag
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23:36.40Kirochiza ?
23:39.51KirochiAdys ?
23:44.30winkillerwhat does "quelle" mean?
23:44.40winkillerspeaking of people who know french :P
23:46.41pcj"what"
23:46.43pcjor which
23:47.01Kirochiyep, which one
23:47.17Kirochifor a female or an object

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