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00:28.56KirkburnI reported the problem, but are you okay to edit now?
00:29.14kd3anyone's skin just break? logged in/out and I'm missing half of the CSS
00:35.13KirkburnLooks okay here
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01:06.30KirkburnI'm off now
01:06.46KirkburnToodles
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01:57.14gnfnok heres my newbish question i came here to get an answer to
01:57.15gnfnhow do i extract DBC’s, VMAP’s, and MAPS and where do i extract them for mangosd 5082?
01:58.31KasoMangosd 5062?
01:58.35Kasowhat is this?
01:58.49gnfnit is a WoW private server emulator
02:00.17KasoI suggest you read the Topic of this channel then
02:02.39gnfnaye fine thanks for well nothing
02:03.56Kasowell fuck you too
02:04.23KasoDont give me attitude when i gently tell you that you're breaking rules
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02:59.21Kirkburnmoo
03:12.26Fisker-miau
03:14.50Fisker-bad idea
03:15.18Fisker-you can't iceblock while dead
03:16.06Sky2042i'm not dead.
03:17.00Kirkburnheeeeyy
03:17.01Fisker-yes you are
03:17.35Fisker-fun fun
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06:43.44Adyshttp://www.lefigaro.fr/medias/2008/03/14/04002-20080314ARTFIG00146-aol-s-offre-bebo-un-concurrent-de-facebook.php
06:43.54Adysthey are comparing facebook and myspace to youtube
06:44.01Adyshow stupid i r, lemme show u it
06:47.03Sky2042?
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06:50.34sacarascthe only good things about france is the use of milliards and the cheese...
06:51.08AdysSky2042:  just giving french journalism a rant
06:51.15Sky2042ah
06:51.18Adysyoutube is a video site, not a social site
06:51.34Adysif they want to give an example about google's take on social websites they just have to say orkut
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06:52.38Sky2042Adys: people would disagree on "not a social site". that seems very much the purpose to me; it is a place for people to gather, exchange thoughts and ideas. it is simply done differently than a profiling site.
06:53.00Adyshttp://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/youtube.png
06:53.16Adyspoint taken?
06:53.54Sky2042you realize there are similar satires on both WoW, Thottbot, and Myspace, no?
06:54.05Adysyeah so?
06:54.09Adysgoogle has orkut
06:54.14Sky2042that doesn't prove your point ;)
06:54.17Adysif they didnt, i wouldnt have the same argument
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07:08.10laurlymorning
07:09.24Adysmorning laurly
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07:26.11laurlyping Sky2042
07:26.17Sky2042ar?
07:26.31laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Laurlybot/quest_bot
07:27.02laurlywe are brain storming before i code the quest module.  join in the fun.
07:28.23Sky2042where's the template?
07:28.47laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurlybot/quest_bot/template
07:29.06laurlyedit the page wiki makes it look like crap
07:29.49Sky2042eh
07:29.56Sky2042the source code is enough for me to wokr with =]
07:33.16laurlyi will probably start working on it this weekend.
07:39.40laurlycan i pass varables to User:Laurlybot/Doquests or does it have to be in the template name space?
07:39.57Sky2042hmm?
07:40.04Sky2042no, variables can be used in any namespace.
07:40.33laurly{{User:Laurlybot/Doquests|quest_id=1|requested_by=laurly}}
07:40.51Sky2042i would remove the underscores, but other than that, yes, you're fine.
07:41.03laurlykewl :)
07:42.12Sky2042uh oh.
07:42.15Sky2042use a different tag?
07:42.31Sky2042and set up a separate module for Doquests?
07:42.34laurlyna we need to clean up the mess of the old tags.
07:43.04laurlyi can have her search wowhead for the quest name if it pulls up more then one she will wait for an id but if not she can just run the one she finds.
07:43.27laurlybut from now on require the quest id. will make it easer for the bot.
07:44.00Sky2042wroks for me.
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07:45.47Sky2042i prolly won't be able to get on for the next couple of days. depends on the swim meet.
07:45.54Sky2042left some comments and such.
07:45.57laurlywhy did i read  "Feet Items" on VP.... my head hurts now.
07:46.31Sky2042eirik said the same thing =]
07:47.10Sky2042might want to get jiyambi into this also.
07:47.56laurlywhos that?
07:48.12Sky2042and whoever else is doing stylistic stuff with quests, a la [[WoWWiki:Quest list project]] and/or other editors of [[Help:Quest articles(/Preload)]]
07:48.14Sky2042another user.
07:49.19laurlypop over to his userpage and invite him to join in on the fun i have to go to wokr now.
07:49.40laurlysee you guys later.
07:53.31Fisker-so Bibi
07:53.35Fisker-what's changed in teh new patch?
07:53.43Bibinothing.
07:53.55Fisker-QQ
07:54.18Fisker-i am in disbelief
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08:16.05BettePerHi :)
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08:20.36AdysI love the french administration
08:20.37AdysKalroth!
08:21.16AdysBut seriously, today I learned Im born 650 miles from where I thought I was born, and that I'm actually married. With who? they tell me Im supposed to know
08:21.17KalrothBonjour Adys!
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15:32.17Oseremove http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Caelestrasz_US#The_Avatar_of_Caelestrasz?
15:32.26Oseself bragging?
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15:43.10Oselol: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Akama&curid=19141&diff=1260202&oldid=1260003
15:43.14Osebionicle?
16:11.36KasoOh hay, Manhunt 2 got un banned,  awesome
16:11.48Kasoits a crap game and im not going buy it, but still good news
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16:54.41rjmis it possible to color public chat messages?
16:59.17KasoColoring IRC messages? IMPOSSIBLE
17:01.36KasoOh you mean in wow
17:01.46KasoNo you can't color chat messages it'll DC you
17:02.04KasoSome addons allow you to encode colours, but they require both ends to have the addon
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17:06.33KlimpenAnyone alive?
17:09.22Kasoyes
17:09.35sacarasci thought we were all undead?
17:09.42Kasobraaains
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17:10.25Adysspeaking of brains, here's someone who doesnt have any!
17:10.54Kalrothorc smash
17:11.11Adysno caps? :(
17:11.14KlimpenMmmmm, people alive. Anyone able to point me towards an Admin?
17:11.26Adysuh oh
17:11.35KalrothKlimpen: Are you looking for an evil or a good admin?
17:11.44pcjthere are good admins?
17:11.50KlimpenFair, would be preferable.
17:11.53Kalrothpcj: shhh, it was a trick question
17:11.58Adysperfect, not me!
17:12.11kd3what's up, Klimpen?
17:12.27Adyswoot, kd3 to the rescue
17:12.32Adysnight all
17:12.42KlimpenApparently my IP's been banned and I'm supposed to come here to talk about it.
17:12.53Adysgah
17:12.55KlimpenFrom contributing to WoWWiki, that is.
17:12.56kd3what's the message?
17:12.57Adyssame as pcj's problem?
17:13.13Klimpen"Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Monkeybars". The reason given for Monkeybars's block is: "Inserting false information: yeah. don't do that. come back in a year if you feel like being nice.""
17:13.26pcjwhat ip address does it say
17:13.34Klimpen10.8.2.183
17:13.40Adysfigures
17:13.41kd3one sec
17:15.08kd3ok. try now. you should be able to create an account
17:15.39KlimpenOh, I've got an account. I was just trying to chuck something onto a talk page. It's working now, thankies. :)
17:15.52pcji blame wikia and kirkburn
17:15.56kd3no worries. sorry about that. we're bitching at wikia to try to get that fixed as we speak
17:16.30KlimpenBack to the random little contributions I do occasionally. :)
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17:18.41Kirkburnyo
17:18.51Kalrothhay Kirky baby
17:19.17kd3heya. can you bitch at wikia again? we seem to be blocking private IP addys again
17:21.36Adysi was sleeping
17:21.41Adysand addys pings me :(
17:21.48kd3lol
17:22.13Adysits this very moment when you wonder "mmmphs, maybe its important"
17:22.42Kalrothwhy are you sleeping at this hour?
17:22.58Adysto save my precious night hours for you
17:23.03Kalrothhot
17:23.43KlimpenJust curious, why is there nothing under 'WoWWiki Spotlight' on the main page?
17:23.57Adysadblock
17:24.02KlimpenAh.
17:24.06Adysback in bed, bbl
17:51.05Kirkburnkd3, done
17:51.14KirkburnAnyone got thoughts on http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev3/Interface?useskin=wowwiki ?
17:52.19Oseit's kewl
17:54.14KasoThe Portals at the top seem a little crowded imo
17:54.24Kasoesp if you have a small resolution
17:55.37KirkburnKaso, any ideas how to improve?
17:56.47KasoSmaller unbolded font
17:57.39Kasoor even something tab like maybe? of is that venturing too close to web2.0, also possibily confusing with the wiki tabs
17:57.54kd3heh, I was thinking the same thing with tabs
17:58.02kd3attached to the red banner, perhaps
17:58.08KirkburnI was thinking about tabs, but it's kinda hard to do
17:58.51KirkburnThe header is separate to the content below, thus I can't do page specific formatting without CSS stuff
17:59.24Oseshould we give User Wants templates their own category?
18:00.40KirkburnI'll try some CSS tabs
18:02.35dev_n00bHappy PI day!
18:03.36Osehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_Day LOL!
18:04.12Osefree pie...
18:05.37dev_n00bI like pie
18:05.38dev_n00b:D
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18:35.30Oseis there a set date for the upgrades Kirkburn?
18:35.50KirkburnNot atm, but next week seems most likely
18:38.54Osekk
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18:49.41Gourrawhat's up with http://www.wowwiki.com/Elemental_Mage_Staff :S
18:52.41Osevandalism? lol, the power of a mage staff in the hands of a true warrior...
18:53.20Osehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:123.jpg = http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Screenshot_101again.JPG = http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Screenshot_101again2.JPG = duplicates, kill 2/3
18:54.25laurlylol
18:56.47Osekirkburn and pcj: what's up with the .css 's?
18:56.59pcji'm not doing anything with css
18:56.59Kirkburnhmm?
18:57.12Oseok, pcj=.js
18:57.27pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WW:VP#Empty_Categories
18:58.09KirkburnMy stuff is for tabbed Main Pages
18:59.39Oseis it working?
19:05.31pcjmine is
19:11.08foxlitHrm, pcj.
19:11.15foxlitCan I move your entire js to an addOnloadHook?
19:11.29foxlit(that is, the loading bootstrap from common.js)
19:11.38pcjIt's already running onload
19:12.06foxlit<PROTECTED>
19:12.06foxlitdocument.write('<script type="text/javascript" src=" \
19:12.06foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Pcj/tooltip.js \
19:12.06foxlit&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s&smaxage=18000"></script>');
19:12.08foxlitI don't think so.
19:12.23pcjThat JS instantiates variables
19:12.39pcjSince it involves allowing users to override the default variables with their own, you shouldn't
19:13.16foxlitThat JS also loads regardless of whether I want it or not, which is mildly annoying
19:13.27laurlywtb archive on VP plix
19:13.38pcjIt's only a few lines, you'll live
19:14.08foxlitIt's another http stream, I don't want to live with it if I can avoid it
19:14.29pcjYou can't, sorry
19:15.10foxlitWe'll see... about that.
19:19.05Gourrais it okay if I archive VP for february?
19:19.48foxlitDon't archive any discussions that haven't yet reached a logical conclusions :)
19:19.57foxlits/a //
19:20.19Gourrathen, by all means, archive it yourself
19:37.04pcjthat looks mostly terrible kirkburn
19:38.29KirkburnThanks. Got anything constructive to say?
19:38.54pcjyou need to change the URLs to the individual JS pages foxlit
19:39.17foxlitoh, good point
19:39.50Kirkburnpcj, reload and view http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev3/WoW
19:41.22pcjbetter
19:41.30pcjmaybe make the tabs rounded on Firefox?
19:43.15foxlitThat red backgrounded box isn't really interesting
19:44.13foxlitPerhaps move the word "portal" out of the individual links and somehow denote them all as portals
19:47.08KirkburnKind of like http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev3/WoW ?
19:48.42foxlitI don't suppose there's a handy portal icon somewhere that's somewhat usable?
19:49.22Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Portal-230px.png <-- resized?
19:49.59foxlitMaybe; no dark portal icon? :)
19:52.43KirkburnIf someone can find one :P
19:52.52KirkburnI'd like to be able to push this live sometime this century ;)
19:54.11KirkburnSpent half the morning just making it look similar in IE7 >_<]
20:01.50pcjwhat about IE8 kirkburn
20:02.01KirkburnShould work identically to Fx
20:02.15KirkburnApart from the corners
20:02.15pcjsuuuuure
20:02.42KirkburnWell, assuming MW's software doesn't make it break
20:03.58Kirkburnhmm, no special CSS /should/ get passed to IE8 (it's all IE7 and lt IE7)
20:04.05KirkburnFisker-, ping
20:05.50KirkburnNeed a "portal" namespace now :P
20:13.42KirkburnBtw, there weren't any other namespaces we wanted, were there?
20:16.58KirkburnWeren't we going to have a fanfic namespace at some point?
20:20.25pcjapi might be a good idea kirkburn
20:20.33pcjand spell:
20:20.42pcjand adys wanted a namespace for his openwdb thing i thought
20:21.32KirkburnStuff has been moved to http://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:World_of_Warcraft now :)
20:22.32KirkburnAPI does sound sensible
20:22.45KirkburnHas "spell" got articles already?
20:23.00pcjwhat?
20:23.17KirkburnSpell:Blah ... does any exist?
20:23.35pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Spell:18040
20:23.51KirkburnCan't make the namespace easily if they're there
20:24.05pcjlame excuse
20:25.04kd3then how'd we get guild:/server: implemented?
20:26.11pcjfoxlit, i suppose you could move the tooltipsOn check to MediaWiki:Common.js
20:26.20pcjhmm
20:26.22pcjmaybe not ._.
20:26.36pcjsince user variables are set after wiki-wide js is run ._.
20:26.39foxlituser js isn't loaded until after that
20:26.39Kirkburnkd3, with difficulty
20:35.46KirkburnActually, it's apparently not that hard
20:35.55pcjpwnt
20:36.00KirkburnI can request it early next week
20:36.13KirkburnOkay, I'm making a list of namespace requests
20:36.15Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev3
20:36.32KirkburnIf you have any, add them, so I can present to them a final list
20:36.44kd3the only one I can think of to make my life easier would be quest:
20:37.16kd3we don't have any other pseudo-namespaces other than quest/api/spell, do we?
20:37.51pcjkd3: HOWTO: has been, but I've been trying to deprecate
20:39.08OseKirkburn:are the portal pages supposed to be done? the links hasnospaceswhatsoeverbetwenthem
20:39.28Kirkburnlinks?
20:39.46Oselinks between the different portals
20:39.49pcjUh.
20:39.54pcjWhat browser are you using
20:39.59Osefirefox
20:40.02pcjDid you cache refresh?
20:40.03KirkburnOh, refresh
20:40.44Oserefresh cache?
20:41.08Osealright :D
20:41.15Oselooks good
20:41.21KirkburnCool
20:41.52Oseremember to make them admin editing only
20:42.01pcjgg ose
20:42.03pcjgod
20:43.46KirkburnWell yeah, I'm not implementing them yet
20:43.52Osewai?
20:44.14KirkburnBesides, I think only the WoW one needs full protection as that'll be the main one
20:45.59Oseso, wow portal is basically the main page
20:46.01Ose?
20:46.04kd3ya
20:46.32Osewow portal bug...
20:46.44Ose#redirect instead of showing header
20:47.14Osenow it's fixed
20:47.17KirkburnYeah, moving stuff
20:48.36Oseyou should write a few sentences about how you mean this system should work
20:49.20KirkburnAye, will do
20:49.41KirkburnStill gotta sort out how talk pages will work
20:49.56Oseuhm, question: why is there an option on http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Recentchanges to hide anonynmous users, when we don't have any?
20:50.28pcjit's there by default
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20:50.54Oseyeah, but can't it be removed?
20:51.19pcjno real reason to
20:51.36kd3wow, that was quick. portal's already been implemented
20:51.40KirkburnI did, once, but blanking the related MW message, but it returned after 1.10
20:52.07Kirkburnkd3, it was implemented aaages ago, like 2 mins after I requested it :P
20:52.22winkillersurviving with 4 hp rocks
20:52.27KirkburnPoland ftw
20:52.52KirkburnThey're pretty ... familiar ... with our code now
20:53.26pcjyou mean intimate right
20:54.13KirkburnMebbe
20:55.27Osepolish people are kinda... worky...
21:15.12Osehttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sandbox/User_page: comments?
21:24.39Osewasn't this guy banned? http://www.wowwiki.com/User:DukeNukumForever
21:30.25Osefoxlit?
21:31.08foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:DukeNukumForever ?
21:31.24Osevandal
21:31.27Osehow about adding a possibility for foxbot to automatically update {{wwclub}} templates?
21:31.55pcjdidn't he already answer that
21:32.19foxlit~logs
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21:32.34Ose22:22, 14 March 2008 (hist) (diff) m Server:Worthlessness (moved Server:Kel'Thuzad US to Server:Worthlessness)
21:32.43Osedo I need to say more?
21:33.02foxlit22:28, 14 March 2008 Kaydeethree (Talk | contribs | block) blocked "DukeNukumForever (contribs)" (account creation disabled, autoblock disabled) with an expiry time of infinite (Abusing multiple accounts)
21:33.10foxlitI don't know, depends on why you brought it up
21:33.16pcj(Deletion log); 16:28 . . Kaydeethree (Talk | contribs) (deleted "Server talk:Worthlessness": content was: '#REDIRECT Server talk:Kel'Thuzad US' (and the only contributor was 'Ose'))
21:33.34kd3that's his third account
21:33.48kd3and server:worthlessness was moved by DNF and reverted by ose
21:34.48OseI was just thinking, if it stumbled across a wwclub while doing the contribs it discovered that a user had more than 1000 edits, but the wwclub said 500, it would change that automatically
21:37.37foxlitHrm, pcj's sig makes things difficult to check :)
21:38.17pcjJust do it in the User namespace?
21:38.24Ose[22:14]<Ose>http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sandbox/User_page: comments?
21:38.33foxlitIt's certainly doable but I don't think there's a real reason to do so - either he user himself will notice, or someone else will
21:38.43foxlitpcj: am already
21:39.20foxlitBut it's making it difficult for me to estimate how many tags are actually used by looking at whatlinkshere manually :)
21:39.49foxlitOse: avoid links in section titles
21:40.11Osewhy?
21:40.27pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?offset=&limit=100&target=Template%3AUser_Editcount&title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere&namespace=2
21:40.30pcjThere you go foxlit
21:40.41foxlitHm, better
21:40.56foxlitI should still do it properly, though :(
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21:42.40Kirkburn|afkIf there's any more problems with bans, please tell me
21:42.44Kirkburn|afkIt *should* be fixed
21:48.11Osehttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sandbox/User_page: better?
21:49.25GourraOse: for some reason I just get a blank page
21:49.31Gourra"WoWWiki does not have a User page with this exact name!"
21:49.47Osethe link works for me...
21:50.17Gourraskip the ":" at the end.
21:50.18Gourrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose/Sandbox/User_page
21:50.49Osein ChatZilla, the : wasn't included in the link :P
21:52.56Oseanyway, feedbacks plz. I want to complete this thing
22:09.51Osehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Carine_US/Guild_Recruitment bad according to WW:Guild?
22:11.56pcjWW:GUILD doesn't address that...
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22:31.33sacarasctoday was a good day for my engineering... pet bombling and the 350 epic goggles
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22:57.05pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Fuck_Ange%3Bla_because_assaulthead_will_come_back_to_Wikia_Forever_and_soon_take_over_Wikia_because_angela_is_unfit_to_be_the_president_of_wikia
22:57.08pcj^ scares me
23:00.52foxlit"Mr Kel Thuzad, what's your take on the allegations you are now places on farm status?"
23:01.22Kirkburn|afkpcj, it's really really sad
23:02.10foxlitis there a story to go with it?
23:02.17foxlitHot juicy reverts?
23:02.22foxlitWide swings of the ban hammer?
23:02.36Kirkburn|afkNothing out of the ordinary, but he's just really obsessed
23:06.21KasoWhat the fuck is it on about? it makes no sense to me
23:06.41Osepropably some psychotic
23:07.32Osethere has to be "something" worng with you to spend so much time flaming one person over and over
23:08.00Kirkburn|afkWhat do people think of the links on http://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:Warcraft_universe ?
23:09.51Osegood
23:10.43Oseadd takes up good space
23:11.06Kirkburn|afkCan't change, if anything it needs to be more prominent from a business standpoint
23:11.41Oseblah
23:12.00Osewhat's the monthly income/outcome?
23:13.10Kirkburn|afkWell, I can't tell him now he's quit ...
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23:26.57foxlitI think you have a different problem
23:27.09foxlitI have yet to see a wowwiki ad that warrants clicking
23:32.12Kirkburn|afklol
23:32.26Kirkburn|afkI'm seeing "Fallen Sword" a free MMORPG
23:32.33Kirkburn|afkSeems pretty well targeted
23:32.47Kirkburn|afkThere are plans for more interesting stuff coming up
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23:48.30Kirkburn|afkI'm not entirely happy with how http://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:Community is turning out
23:49.57Kirkburn|afkAnyone got any ideas?
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