| 00:11.15 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Throne_of_Kil%27jaeden |
| 00:11.32 | foxlit | so what happens to kazzak? |
| 00:11.41 | Sky2042 | presumably, he's still there. isn't he? |
| 00:11.56 | foxlit | e Throne of Kil'jaeden has become a daily quest location for the Shattered Sun Offensive, and the mobs have been changed. |
| 00:12.28 | foxlit | putting kazzak close to people is an incredibly bad idea |
| 00:13.17 | Sky2042 | no it's not! |
| 00:13.18 | Sky2042 | =] |
| 00:13.28 | foxlit | Capture Soul and everything :P |
| 00:14.30 | Sky2042 | that'll be fun. |
| 00:14.36 | Sky2042 | griefing galore. |
| 00:30.27 | winkiller | oy, Kirky's mugshot on wowinsider |
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| 01:03.13 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Game_Master&curid=16333&diff=1252320&oldid=1249684 LOL |
| 01:05.40 | Adys | nice |
| 01:06.47 | Sandwichman2448 | I know. |
| 01:10.05 | Sandwichman2448 | I want to roll an annihilan now. |
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| 03:37.01 | Adys | http://www.anomalousanomaly.com/2008/03/06/acid-3/ hehe |
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| 04:21.07 | c | o.o |
| 04:21.21 | Adys | :P |
| 04:41.50 | Olison | he |
| 04:44.12 | Charitwo | ho |
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| 04:49.13 | Sky2042 | Adys: LOL @ IE 5.5 ? 7.0. that's too funny. |
| 04:49.19 | Sky2042 | s/?/>/ |
| 04:49.34 | kd3 | ya, that was rather funny |
| 04:50.03 | Adys | yeah |
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| 06:38.09 | dev_n00b | Anyone got time to help me out? |
| 06:40.32 | Adys | ~asktoask |
| 06:40.33 | infobot | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 06:40.59 | dev_n00b | OOOoo |
| 06:41.16 | dev_n00b | Adys... That name is familiar :D |
| 06:41.26 | Adys | *shrugs* |
| 06:41.38 | dev_n00b | Do you play on Sargeras-us? |
| 06:41.46 | Adys | No |
| 06:41.53 | dev_n00b | ah |
| 06:41.57 | dev_n00b | my bad :O |
| 06:42.18 | dev_n00b | Anyway, on to the question. Is there a list of level 70 PVP gear that can be accquired OUTSIDE of arenas and BGs? |
| 06:42.56 | Adys | umm you mean gear with pvp stats or..? |
| 06:43.19 | dev_n00b | Resilience, specifically |
| 06:43.55 | Adys | cant help you with that sorry :) try a db |
| 06:45.01 | dev_n00b | I'm trying to go insane and farm 300HKs a day, minimum, as a boomkin :O |
| 06:46.20 | dev_n00b | Pvp only sucks against shaman/pally combos, IMHO |
| 06:46.43 | dev_n00b | Dang enhance shammy and a holy pally :( |
| 06:46.54 | Adys | pvp sucks after a few weeks barely even that |
| 06:47.17 | Adys | you just deny it until you quit pvping and tell yourself you should have done that earlier |
| 06:47.44 | Adys | new techdawg vid :o |
| 06:47.44 | Adys | http://www.vimeo.com/765227/ |
| 06:48.22 | dev_n00b | I just got into PVPing since raiding Kara is getting stale :D |
| 06:48.52 | dev_n00b | lol |
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| 06:56.12 | dev_n00b | I like pie |
| 07:05.22 | DuTempete | do you, now, dev_n00b? |
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| 07:08.30 | laurly | hmm i need to make a wiki sig thingie. |
| 07:08.41 | DuTempete | sig thingie? |
| 07:09.09 | laurly | so that when you do ~~~~ it shows diffrent. |
| 07:09.26 | DuTempete | lol you don't have one? I never notied :P |
| 07:10.17 | laurly | i code bots. i strugle with wiki markup |
| 07:11.28 | laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Laurlybot_-_Guild_armory_check <-- adys give input |
| 07:11.38 | Adys | in a few mins |
| 07:15.40 | Adys | how do u get rid of a profession? please help me. i accedently got blacksmithing instead of mining.!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help me. i am a level 13 blood elf. what is ur name? my blood elf name is Qordis if u guys wanted to know. |
| 07:15.49 | Adys | erm |
| 07:16.06 | DuTempete | how does one "notie"? |
| 07:16.19 | Adys | DuTempete: its like tying but without the ties |
| 07:16.23 | Adys | noties! |
| 07:16.38 | DuTempete | notying? |
| 07:16.42 | Adys | yea |
| 07:16.50 | DuTempete | uh huh... |
| 07:16.58 | Adys | [08:09:26] <+DuTempete> lol you don't have one? I never notied :P |
| 07:17.52 | DuTempete | ah, forgot that |
| 07:18.43 | Adys | DuTempete: you didnt give any input on openwdb btw :p |
| 07:18.53 | laurly | does http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Guild put guilds in all the right cats if you supply all the varables? like pvp pve server cat?? |
| 07:18.57 | DuTempete | what is openwdb? |
| 07:19.18 | Adys | [[User:Adys/OpenWDB]] [[User:Adys/OpenWDB/Process]] |
| 07:29.50 | laurly | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:42.53 | Fisker- | haet |
| 07:50.04 | DuTempete | Interesting, Adys. I'll have to mull it over a bit, though. |
| 07:50.35 | Fisker- | OMG ZERG |
| 07:50.45 | laurly | work l8r |
| 07:51.03 | Fisker- | http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/186897.html |
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| 08:01.40 | laurly | well that was fast... |
| 08:11.25 | laurly | time to see if my arch nemis wants to help with the recoding of the quest module. |
| 08:15.39 | laurly | ping adys |
| 08:30.49 | Fisker- | pong laurly |
| 08:30.55 | Fisker- | why is Adys your archnemesis? |
| 08:31.03 | laurly | he isnt |
| 08:31.28 | laurly | User:Eirik Ratcatcher is :) |
| 08:31.47 | laurly | although 90% of the time hes right hence the reason to get him to help with the new bot. |
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| 09:18.33 | Adys | lol at eirik yeah |
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| 09:20.22 | Adys | laurly: pong |
| 09:26.38 | laurly | which module do you want first quest or npc? |
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| 09:43.20 | Fisker- | who is eirik anyways+ |
| 09:43.21 | Fisker- | ? |
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| 09:45.32 | Fisker- | btw Adys did you see the new stuff? :o |
| 09:45.37 | Fisker- | zerg announcement |
| 09:45.41 | Adys | ? |
| 09:45.57 | Fisker- | http://kotaku.com/365716/first-look-at-starcraft-ii-zerg |
| 09:46.05 | Fisker- | btw |
| 09:46.14 | Adys | will check |
| 09:46.27 | Fisker- | according to blizzard the intro trailer they had there was rendered using their engine :o |
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| 13:05.33 | pcj | what |
| 13:05.48 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Pcj/count&diff=1251921&oldid=1249513 |
| 13:05.50 | foxlit | grats :) |
| 13:09.35 | foxlit | Plan to keep repeating that edit? :) |
| 13:09.53 | pcj | Sure |
| 13:10.22 | foxlit | boo, hiss |
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| 13:49.17 | laurly | is there anyway to list all the pages in the guilds name space? |
| 13:49.38 | pcj | yes |
| 13:50.28 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=&namespace=112 laurly |
| 13:50.29 | laurly | how? |
| 13:55.40 | laurly | dont think that lists them all pcj |
| 13:55.52 | laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Theory_%28Lightbringer_EU%29 <-- doesnt show up. |
| 13:56.10 | pcj | you have to hit next page |
| 13:56.26 | laurly | did that. |
| 13:56.47 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Allpages&from=The_Regiment_%28Feathermoon_US%29/QotD/4&namespace=112 |
| 13:56.52 | pcj | it's on there |
| 14:00.39 | pcj | if you want a more streamlined approach laurly there's always http://www.wowwiki.com/api.php?action=query&list=allpages&apnamespace=112&aplimit=500 |
| 14:01.19 | pcj | Theory (Lightbringer EU) is on http://www.wowwiki.com/api.php?action=query&list=allpages&apnamespace=112&aplimit=500&apfrom=The_Regiment_%28Feathermoon_US%29/QotD/4 |
| 14:03.50 | laurly | hmm |
| 14:06.18 | Fisker- | beep beep jeep tiems |
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| 14:54.53 | Ose | hey |
| 14:54.57 | equiraptor | moo |
| 14:56.16 | Ose | baa |
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| 15:51.23 | loll | i'm looking for some help regarding focus macros |
| 16:03.18 | loll | someone? D: |
| 16:03.58 | Cairenn|afk | loll: you might do better to ask in the lounge |
| 16:04.17 | loll | oh |
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| 16:19.10 | harm | Hey |
| 16:19.44 | harm | can anyone tell me how cloth for reputation works? |
| 16:30.14 | pcj | you have to turn in wool and silk first |
| 16:30.19 | pcj | then you start turning in runecloth |
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| 16:35.58 | harm | how nuch xp per XX wool? |
| 16:40.32 | Ose | dunno |
| 16:40.37 | Ose | not much |
| 16:44.03 | Ose | harm: http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:A_Donation_of_Wool#Reward |
| 16:44.10 | Ose | that what you're looking for? |
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| 16:50.51 | harm | urm let me check |
| 16:51.44 | harm | so each time you get 350rep + 950xp? |
| 16:53.30 | Ose | depends on your level I think |
| 16:53.41 | Ose | morning DuTempete |
| 16:54.25 | DuTempete | howdy, Ose |
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| 17:05.09 | Fisker- | Adys |
| 17:05.10 | Fisker- | http://www.starcraft2.com/features/zerg/main.xml |
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| 17:05.30 | harm | Ose: but my gf wants a tiger.. level 40 mage.. 15k rep to go |
| 17:06.02 | Ose | she can't yet, i'm afraid... |
| 17:06.06 | harm | so 15,000/355 = 43 times? |
| 17:06.12 | harm | she cant do it yet? |
| 17:06.35 | Ose | it's just the runecloth quests that are repeatable... |
| 17:07.17 | Ose | but when she's lvl. 50, she can start doing http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Morrowgrain_to_Darnassus |
| 17:08.44 | Ose | oh, that's when she can do http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:A_Donation_of_Runecloth & http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Additional_Runecloth too |
| 17:10.15 | harm | so level 50? |
| 17:10.27 | harm | you know guys iam going to have to put up with so many shit quests for rep now |
| 17:12.01 | Ose | what level are you then? |
| 17:12.55 | Ose | ~seen gourra |
| 17:12.57 | infobot | gourra <n=g0urra@73-236.powerdsl.t3.se> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 1d 2h 18s ago, saying: 'because the council is huge'. |
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| 17:23.58 | DuTempete | safe flight, PanSola? |
| 17:24.04 | PanSola | hmm |
| 17:24.42 | DuTempete | still in Austin? |
| 17:32.41 | PanSola | I didn't go to Austin d-: |
| 17:33.04 | DuTempete | ahhh |
| 17:33.06 | DuTempete | bummer :( |
| 17:35.00 | DuTempete | So, did you travel for the meeting, or is the SF area home for you? |
| 17:38.58 | dev_n00b | Afternoon, everyone! |
| 17:39.10 | DuTempete | afternoon, dev_n00b |
| 17:40.27 | dev_n00b | I'm interested in PVPing, but only have 43 resilience. Where can I get more resilience gear, as a balance druid, outside of arena and BGs? |
| 17:40.30 | PanSola | SF area is within commute distance |
| 17:41.25 | DuTempete | PanSola, so, tell me about this hotpants thing... |
| 17:43.10 | dev_n00b | O.o |
| 17:43.39 | dev_n00b | Hotpants? |
| 17:43.45 | dev_n00b | --m--^O.o^--m-- |
| 17:44.14 | PanSola | hot pants? |
| 17:44.28 | dev_n00b | NO PANTS!?! |
| 17:44.31 | dev_n00b | o.O |
| 17:45.30 | dev_n00b | This is why I like IRC. I get to see/hear odd things |
| 17:46.04 | dev_n00b | Time to log in and see how much honor I really got.... I had 283 HKs yesterday |
| 17:48.09 | DuTempete | awwww, PanSola, you're no fun. |
| 17:48.34 | Lukian | dev_n00b, use HonorFu till 2.4 :p |
| 17:49.37 | PanSola | ?? |
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| 18:32.05 | Fisker- | http://www.starcraft2.eu/ redirecting to the wow trial for you guys? |
| 18:33.12 | equiraptor | Yup |
| 18:33.20 | Fisker- | slackers |
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| 18:55.05 | harm | lol |
| 18:55.17 | harm | you sure starcraft2.eu is a blizzard site? |
| 18:55.19 | harm | whois it |
| 18:56.09 | harm | Registrar: Name: MarkMonitor Corporate Services, Inc. Website: www.markmonitor.com |
| 18:58.29 | Fisker- | yes it's blizzards |
| 18:58.48 | Fisker- | besides if it weren't it shouldn't be forwarded to their ip's :P |
| 19:01.32 | harm | its not forwared to their IPS |
| 19:01.34 | harm | IPs |
| 19:02.11 | harm | its rederected to teasers.wow... after gathering some info |
| 19:03.21 | Kalroth | [DNS] Canonical: host-201.blizzard.com Numerical: 80.239.174.201 |
| 19:03.32 | harm | MarkMonitor Corporate Services, Inc. |
| 19:03.38 | harm | thats the registar |
| 19:03.48 | Kalroth | Sure, did you check their website? :) |
| 19:04.03 | Kalroth | "MarkMonitor offers the only comprehensive suite of solutions for establishing and protecting brands online. Already in use by more than half the Fortune 100 .." |
| 19:04.34 | harm | >[ |
| 19:04.46 | harm | its a bunch of nigerian scammers!~ |
| 19:04.50 | harm | it must be |
| 19:06.23 | Kaso | ha |
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| 19:18.15 | Gourra | hi, I did some additional changes to {{Paperdoll}}, you might want to check it out |
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| 19:29.02 | fric | nice |
| 19:31.26 | Adys | morning |
| 19:31.38 | DuTempete | morning, Adys |
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| 19:42.43 | Keolah | I am starting to really despise Kaliri Stew. |
| 19:50.25 | Gourra | "starting"? |
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| 19:56.13 | Keolah | It was amusing the first couple tims. After like a week of nothing but Kaliri Stew, it's just getting on my nerves :P |
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| 19:58.28 | amro | does javascript support variable function argument lists? |
| 20:00.45 | amro | nevermind figured it out :) |
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| 20:04.55 | Amarande | hmm, random thoughts of the day |
| 20:05.11 | Amarande | 1) whichever Shattrath faction you choose, you will hardly ever get its faction turnin item, while the other faction will drop all over the place |
| 20:05.18 | Amarande | 2) how did people ever manage to tank before threat meters were invented? :S |
| 20:09.16 | Gourra | Amarande: people knew how to not overaggro. |
| 20:10.12 | Fisker- | Gut morning Adys |
| 20:10.42 | Fisker- | :< |
| 20:10.50 | Fisker- | don't copy that floppy |
| 20:15.05 | Amarande | hmm, wonder if 2.4's going to be hell for PUGs |
| 20:15.11 | harm | ? |
| 20:15.12 | Amarande | because you'll have three categories people |
| 20:15.20 | harm | PUGS = ? |
| 20:15.25 | Amarande | 1) people like me who aren't scrubs, don't stand in the fire, and actually RUN a threat meter |
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| 20:16.32 | Amarande | 2) people who are total scrubs, probably stand in the fire, and don't run a threat meter |
| 20:16.47 | Adys | THREAT |
| 20:16.48 | Amarande | 3) people who used to run a threat meter but forgot to read the patch notes so they keep trying to run their old one that won't work since 2.4 changed the combat log. |
| 20:16.48 | Adys | METERS |
| 20:16.50 | Adys | SUCK ASS |
| 20:17.01 | Adys | THREE YEARS OF WOW PEOPLE STILL DONT KNOW THAT |
| 20:17.14 | Adys | back to my work, bbl |
| 20:19.13 | Keolah | How about 4) People who are capable of actually thinking for themselves and knowing how much threat their skills cause? :p |
| 20:19.34 | Adys | yep |
| 20:20.02 | Amarande | Keolah: I suppose that's ok when you have a regular guild group |
| 20:20.13 | Adys | thats ok anywhere |
| 20:20.13 | Amarande | when you PUG, part of the problem is not knowing how much threat the tank is causing |
| 20:20.20 | Amarande | especially when the TANK is the only person NOT running Omen :S |
| 20:20.21 | Adys | even in pugs |
| 20:21.38 | Adys | back - its people looking at their threat meter and not seeing the BIG FATASS CAPS BOLD WARNING WITH SOUND that wipe you a raid |
| 20:21.53 | Amarande | I always run a threat meter, even if I don't often consult it myself, at least as a courtesy to people in the party who may be using them |
| 20:22.07 | Amarande | since I know full well they don't work unless everyone has one :) |
| 20:22.23 | Adys | then those people should know better |
| 20:22.58 | Adys | as a tank i *could* understand your problem |
| 20:23.22 | Adys | but as any other class it's no matter |
| 20:24.00 | Adys | the problem is |
| 20:24.09 | Amarande | also as an affliction lock, it's not like threat meters help me any anyway |
| 20:24.17 | Fisker- | beep beep |
| 20:24.20 | Fisker- | doesn't matter |
| 20:24.23 | Amarande | by the time I"m going to pull aggro, I'm going to pull aggro, since you can't currently cancel your debuff spells |
| 20:24.23 | Adys | bc opened the door to so many totally unskilled raiders, and changed the habits of so many older raiders |
| 20:24.23 | Fisker- | threat isn't an issue |
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| 20:24.32 | Fisker- | beep beep |
| 20:25.12 | Amarande | not that I'm likely to find a raid guild anytime soon anyway with my job :| |
| 20:25.13 | Adys | that everyone is in their own "oh no we need threat meters" craze, a lot more than before bc |
| 20:25.39 | Amarande | been looking at ones on Turalyon, they seem to either have schedules that raid too many nights I have to work, or if their schedule is fine, they want me to already be T5, T6 ready |
| 20:25.50 | Fisker- | Already in BWL, with the exception of Broodlord, threatmeters were usually useless |
| 20:25.53 | Amarande | or if both are fine, they don't have any openings for warlocks. :S |
| 20:26.09 | Adys | Fisker-: The problem is not before bc |
| 20:26.12 | Adys | the problem is after bc |
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| 20:26.23 | Adys | before bc any good raider knew they were dumb if they were running one |
| 20:26.52 | Amarande | hmm, didn't BC also introduce a lot of raid bosses that really tested your ability to know the aggro score, too? |
| 20:27.00 | Adys | after bc it's the whole 'you do easymode = you are cool' thing, and threat meters became a Gift of God™ |
| 20:27.05 | Fisker- | I wouldn't say |
| 20:27.23 | Fisker- | Perhaps void reaver, but even on void reaver it's pretty hard to pull aggro |
| 20:27.34 | Amarande | I'm trying to remember which boss it was where you had to keep threat tight enough that you could change tanks regularly |
| 20:27.53 | Amarande | I seem to remember there's one that's like that but I can't remember who |
| 20:27.57 | Adys | any good dpser knows "Im going to pull aggro now" or "Im not going to pull aggro" |
| 20:28.15 | Adys | I understand healers got it harder |
| 20:28.26 | Fisker- | healers are ez mode |
| 20:28.32 | Adys | but the problem is healers thinking "hmm, high on threat, brb sandwich" |
| 20:28.47 | Fisker- | circle of healing = lol though |
| 20:28.50 | Amarande | well, unless 2.4 makes some drastic changes, if anyone needs a threat meter, everyone does |
| 20:29.02 | Adys | no one does |
| 20:29.06 | Adys | even tanks dont |
| 20:29.21 | Adys | tanks get helped by threat meters, and are the only ones getting benefit from it |
| 20:29.27 | Adys | but no one NEEDS one, its a myth |
| 20:29.31 | Fisker- | It's pretty much just become standard inventory in raiding, even if you don't need it anymore |
| 20:29.38 | Adys | yeah |
| 20:29.49 | Amarande | yeah, I've seen a lot of major raid guild sites that put down omen as a required addon |
| 20:29.53 | Fisker- | I don't even know why i have my threatmeter out |
| 20:29.56 | Fisker- | i'm a holy paladin :D |
| 20:30.03 | Fisker- | i'm the least likely char to ever pull aggro |
| 20:30.26 | Fisker- | in 2.4 it can fit a combat log then |
| 20:30.27 | Fisker- | :o |
| 20:30.30 | Adys | like anyone care if you did |
| 20:31.06 | Amarande | speaking of PUGs, hopefully they're easier to get for the 70 5-man's |
| 20:31.18 | Adys | we had a very good mage team back before bc |
| 20:31.25 | Amarande | let's just say, across my two characters who can go to outland, I've had exactly two instance groups. :S |
| 20:31.30 | Amarande | in outland, that is |
| 20:31.40 | Adys | most of us knew not only when we`d pull aggro, but also when we would get resists or crits hehe |
| 20:31.51 | Amarande | seems like you only get instance groups in azeroth these days though lol |
| 20:32.05 | Amarande | and that's probably only because azeroth quest gear sucks ass, so you need instance gear more :S |
| 20:32.07 | Adys | forget it Amarande pve is dead |
| 20:32.39 | Adys | pve is like 3 idiots lvl 50 kiting mandokir |
| 20:32.44 | Adys | *pointless* |
| 20:32.45 | Adys | *dies* |
| 20:32.48 | Adys | *rez* |
| 20:32.51 | Adys | *dies* ... |
| 20:32.56 | Amarande | well, in order to make the best use of my professions, sadly I have to get pve groups |
| 20:33.04 | Amarande | unless I want to spend the rest of my life grinding ogres in nagrand |
| 20:33.10 | Adys | professions are dead :) |
| 20:33.19 | Amarande | Adys: that's only because of badges |
| 20:33.25 | Adys | actually they were never alive |
| 20:33.26 | Amarande | and you can't get badges without pve groups :S |
| 20:33.47 | amro | no one needs any addons, not just threat meters. blizz QA tests the raids without any addons |
| 20:33.52 | Adys | SoloIt™ |
| 20:33.58 | Amarande | blizz QA must be masochists, LOL |
| 20:34.12 | Amarande | that's like playing a Final Fantasy game without at least a list of missable secrets |
| 20:34.27 | amro | Amarande: QA's job is not to have fun |
| 20:34.34 | amro | it's to make sure the game works as intended |
| 20:34.37 | Adys | blizz QA runs raids but most of them forget to turn the BlizInvincible cloak |
| 20:34.59 | Adys | and then their boss sees that |
| 20:35.14 | Adys | and says "Oh you forgot? nerf everything by a factor of 1:3000" |
| 20:35.23 | Adys | "Dont bother testing again." |
| 20:35.32 | Adys | usually happens in the next minor patch. |
| 20:35.41 | Adys | right |Pixel| ? |
| 20:36.09 | amro | screw raids. they ruin the game even for people who don't raid |
| 20:36.11 | |Pixel| | hm ? |
| 20:36.32 | Adys | J'ai raison hein? Hein? Hein que j'ai raison? hein? hein? hein? |
| 20:36.46 | Adys | rofl |
| 20:37.28 | Fisker- | btw |Pixel| |
| 20:37.41 | Fisker- | your guys know starcraft2.eu has been unavailable for a couple of weeks now right? :P |
| 20:37.42 | |Pixel| | which way ? |
| 20:37.46 | |Pixel| | no |
| 20:37.47 | Fisker- | this way |
| 20:37.53 | |Pixel| | I didn't even know we had this website |
| 20:38.08 | Fisker- | just redirects to teaser.wow-europe.com |
| 20:38.32 | |Pixel| | wtf... |
| 20:38.50 | Fisker- | It was launched at the same time as the US page btw |
| 20:39.34 | amro | blizz eu sucks |
| 20:39.40 | amro | (no offense |Pixel| ) |
| 20:39.45 | |Pixel| | blah |
| 20:43.04 | Amarande | what sucked was them deciding to have US and EU WoW require separate accounts and separate installations of the game |
| 20:43.13 | Amarande | WHY couldn't they have had it be all together like Diablo II? |
| 20:43.46 | Amarande | it's a big pain for established communities who realize they have a lot of people who play wow, and are basically sundered into two groups no matter what because some are American and some are from Europe |
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| 20:44.54 | Fisker- | I thought you were locked to gateways in D2 |
| 20:45.09 | Fisker- | Anyways it's probably some tax fraud stuff :P |
| 20:45.23 | Fisker- | Also |
| 20:45.26 | Amarande | Fisker: American copies of D2 at least, could access Europe, USWest, USEast, or Asia whenever |
| 20:45.45 | Amarande | I think the main reason for having a local copy of D2 was if you spoke a different language |
| 20:45.54 | Fisker- | There's also a thing about the US servers not acting in accordance with EU's personal data law |
| 20:46.15 | Amarande | bah, put all the servers in Thailand or something and forget about local laws in the players' countries :S |
| 20:46.43 | Fisker- | Back when they first enabled character copies you had to agree to your character being transferred to the US, which might have lower consumer protection standards than in the EU |
| 20:48.41 | harm | really/ |
| 20:48.52 | harm | i just loved Ultima Online.. never really liked D2 |
| 20:49.34 | dev_n00b | UO <3 |
| 20:50.16 | Amarande | anyway, yeah. the whole US/EU BS gives us a perpetual headache, in the community I'm in |
| 20:53.15 | harm | dev_n00b: u ever played on POL? |
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| 20:54.49 | |Pixel| | Amarande: law issues |
| 20:55.04 | |Pixel| | I agree with Fisker- |
| 20:55.25 | Gourra | Ose: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Paperdoll#Feedback |
| 20:55.42 | Amarande | mainly, I suppose, to be blamed on ... hmm, is this channel mainly US or EU before I continue? |
| 20:55.49 | Ose | alright :D |
| 20:55.51 | Keolah | :P |
| 20:56.07 | Keolah | Blame the US, blame Bush, it's probably his fault anyway! :p |
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| 20:56.14 | Keolah | And even if it's not, blaem him anyway ;p |
| 20:56.14 | Amarande | I blame the EU, myself |
| 20:56.43 | Amarande | too many pro-regulatory pols |
| 20:56.57 | Amarande | which is also why I refuse to vote Democrat ... Hillary Clinton would have video games and the net censored |
| 20:57.03 | Amarande | then we'd have to put the servers in Thailand anyway :S |
| 20:57.08 | Keolah | Hillary ain't gonna win the nomination. |
| 20:57.30 | Amarande | I'd rather vote for Illidan than for Hillary. :) |
| 20:57.59 | harm | shit id hit it |
| 20:58.01 | Gourra | Akama for president. |
| 20:58.10 | harm | vote for Pedro |
| 20:58.12 | Keolah | Yes, let's vote for Illidan. Then at least when the US decides to invade another country, it will have an actual plan of action. :p |
| 20:58.20 | harm | lol |
| 20:58.38 | harm | i was america and i had to invade a country.. i would just say weapons of mass destruction again |
| 20:58.50 | harm | i mean it worked pretty damn well last time.. |
| 20:59.19 | Keolah | "We heard rumors of weapons of mass destruction being harbored here!" "Uh, these are Britney Spears CDs." "Same thing." |
| 20:59.26 | Gourra | lol |
| 21:00.22 | harm | today my law teacher asked some stupid questions so i just answered four questions in a row by saying.. Mass executions |
| 21:00.29 | harm | then he told me to have a smoke and a coffee and come back |
| 21:00.31 | Ose | ... |
| 21:01.24 | harm | so tahts what you get for being anyoing! YAH TAKE THAT.. a coffee brake and a smoke |
| 21:01.27 | winkiller | the boss box on http://www.wowwiki.com/Serpentshrine_Cavern is borked |
| 21:02.19 | Amarande | heh |
| 21:02.26 | Amarande | mass executions might not be a bad idea in America these days |
| 21:02.27 | harm | how can a boiled fish grow in boiling water.. |
| 21:02.35 | Amarande | there's a lot of utter scrubs the country could do without |
| 21:02.37 | harm | i know.. just shoot people in the neck |
| 21:02.43 | Amarande | BORDER DEATH RAYS. |
| 21:02.57 | harm | i know the world could do without me |
| 21:03.03 | Amarande | maybe we can learn how to build fel reavers :D |
| 21:03.27 | harm | nah i will just prefer a nice easy desert eagle with lots of ammo |
| 21:03.39 | harm | and some nice narcotics for during the working hours |
| 21:03.52 | harm | and perhaps an ipod for music :D the expensive touche one! |
| 21:04.42 | Amarande | also, perhaps it might be better for the world if guns were replaced with swords and crossbows again |
| 21:04.44 | harm | either a 32gig touch or no mass executions! |
| 21:04.45 | Amarande | well, possibly not |
| 21:05.18 | Amarande | the idea of going back to swords does seem an attractive one, except it would probably result in an insoluble health care crisis in short order, not to mention possible near extinction of mankind |
| 21:05.34 | harm | honest to god.. swords are heavy cruel and generally shit.. katanas on the other hand.. |
| 21:05.40 | Keolah | People are more likely to be polite to you if you are carrying a battle-axe. |
| 21:05.53 | Amarande | katanas are swords, harm :S |
| 21:06.06 | harm | no they are not.. if katana are swords.. they would be called swords and not katanas |
| 21:06.19 | harm | hence the distinction |
| 21:06.47 | harm | i would be less polite to some dude with a battle axe if i had a 50cal mounted on a tank.. |
| 21:07.05 | harm | rapier are for woman.. |
| 21:07.06 | Amarande | anyway, sadly, in this disease environment, a 50cal is probably better for humanity than a sword |
| 21:07.09 | Amarande | mainly, the thing that occurred to me is |
| 21:07.10 | Keolah | I am a woman. :P |
| 21:07.17 | harm | ... cunt :D |
| 21:07.23 | Ose | OMG GURLZ! |
| 21:07.25 | Amarande | you use a bullet once. it gets blood on it, other than in the case of pass-through, from one victim. |
| 21:07.26 | Ose | had to :P |
| 21:07.36 | Keolah | Now, I'm going to go back to playing Half-Life 2. ;p |
| 21:07.37 | Amarande | you tend to use a sword on more than one person, and you don't normally sterilize it before use |
| 21:07.48 | Keolah | I am a woman who likes to shoot things and blow things up. :p |
| 21:07.53 | Gourra | :o |
| 21:07.55 | harm | amarande swords get dull |
| 21:08.01 | Gourra | Marry me Keolah k. |
| 21:08.05 | Amarande | therefore, it occurs to me that going back to swords would probably cause AIDS to be spread all over the place, to the utter destruction point |
| 21:08.05 | harm | very dull i bet you can cut away for max 15minutes |
| 21:08.08 | Keolah | Sorry, taken ;P |
| 21:08.12 | Gourra | ;_; |
| 21:08.23 | harm | shit aids spreading? just staple instruction to them |
| 21:08.24 | Amarande | after all, if someone gets in a swordfight with someone who has the virus |
| 21:08.36 | Amarande | then EVERYONE that person gets in a swordfight with afterwards is probably doomed to the slow death |
| 21:08.41 | Keolah | you know, if I got skewered by a sword, getting AIDS would be the least of my concerns. |
| 21:08.56 | Amarande | Keolah: I'm thinking more, once someone with it got hit, the sword is contaminated |
| 21:09.10 | Amarande | then, unless the sword is completely sterilized, -anyone- who gets even the slightest nick from it in a future fight ... |
| 21:09.12 | harm | screw that shit.. i wil just rape a baby and cured |
| 21:09.28 | Keolah | and people generally need to keep their swords clean, constantly, or they'll not be very good swords for long :p |
| 21:09.29 | harm | you guys dont now nothing bout aids |
| 21:09.50 | Amarande | you don't have that problem with guns, because ammo is the only part that comes into contact with the target's blood, and it isn't reused |
| 21:10.08 | harm | look.. martial arts > blunt melee > 50cal > swords (excluding katanas.. which kick ASS) |
| 21:10.23 | harm | there is more ammo to shoot everyone.. 50times |
| 21:10.27 | harm | hence 50cal! |
| 21:10.38 | Keolah | Now _that_ kicks ass. :P |
| 21:10.39 | harm | i did not make that up |
| 21:11.02 | harm | ... half life < cs1.5 |
| 21:11.38 | Amarande | Keolah, which side do you usually play in CS:S, btw? |
| 21:11.38 | harm | B 6 4 |
| 21:11.45 | harm | eat that AK bitch |
| 21:11.50 | Keolah | I haven't played it. |
| 21:11.51 | harm | CSS!? |
| 21:11.52 | harm | WAAAAT? |
| 21:11.56 | PhotoJim | but full life = 2 (half life) |
| 21:12.01 | harm | zomg.. who here plays that shit whore game? |
| 21:12.40 | harm | CSS is like twogirlsoncup but then with 4 girls |
| 21:12.46 | Gourra | Half life..full life consequences |
| 21:12.52 | Gourra | WHAT HAS TOBE DONE |
| 21:12.57 | PhotoJim | maybe someone should open onegirlhalfacup.com |
| 21:13.04 | PhotoJim | eightgirlsfourcups.com? |
| 21:13.07 | harm | or onegirlsstfu ? |
| 21:13.25 | harm | twentygirlsmycock.com |
| 21:13.30 | harm | and then they all lick me |
| 21:13.33 | Gourra | ... |
| 21:13.37 | harm | and i shit in their ass |
| 21:13.45 | Gourra | Language. |
| 21:13.52 | harm | and then she shits in my ass.. and i shit in someones ears |
| 21:14.03 | Keolah | English? |
| 21:14.17 | harm | twentygirlsmyassoneear.com |
| 21:14.18 | Keolah | I could speak French, but I'm not very good at it. ;p |
| 21:14.22 | Keolah | :) |
| 21:14.30 | harm | Je vu tanquile salope |
| 21:14.35 | PhotoJim | I'm guessing it's the specific English being chosen there that would be Gourra's point. |
| 21:14.36 | Keolah | J'aime le fromage? :) |
| 21:14.46 | harm | no you dont like the cheese |
| 21:14.55 | harm | you like the cock |
| 21:14.59 | PhotoJim | but if we were doing this in French it would have to be Monde du Warcraft, n'est-ce pas? |
| 21:15.03 | Gourra | excactly.."language" means "Watch your language." |
| 21:15.06 | Amarande | nah, Full-Life is a super expensive spell noobs use in FFX in the monster arena |
| 21:15.21 | harm | final fantasy is for loser who cant handle ultima |
| 21:15.34 | Amarande | also that Seymour Flux uses on you, but he's a noob. :D |
| 21:15.41 | harm | FFX is for losers.. who like a loser game.. version 10 |
| 21:15.46 | Keolah | My. Harm is very negative. Hates everything. Must be 12. ;) |
| 21:16.00 | harm | turned 20 on the 4th of this month |
| 21:16.07 | Amarande | Flux is like a WoW player who's no good at the game, but thinks that by changing into different sets of epics he will actually be able to beat you. :) |
| 21:16.11 | Gourra | I find that hard to believe harm. |
| 21:16.12 | harm | iam not negative.. just saying katanas are not swords |
| 21:16.19 | Amarande | er, s/Flux/Seymour in general/ |
| 21:16.25 | Keolah | "Katana" literally means "sword" in Japanese. ;p |
| 21:16.27 | PhotoJim | we have to make a #40+wow channel ;) |
| 21:16.32 | harm | 04 03 1988 |
| 21:16.43 | harm | iam lvl 40 pala.. |
| 21:16.44 | Keolah | Anyone born after 1980 is a kid to me. |
| 21:16.56 | harm | really? i hope your a pedofile then ;) |
| 21:16.56 | PhotoJim | <- '67 |
| 21:17.08 | harm | 67? what the f? youre not dead yet? |
| 21:17.14 | Keolah | Kid. ;p |
| 21:17.15 | PhotoJim | not yet. |
| 21:17.28 | harm | PhotoJim: youre one of them hippies? |
| 21:17.28 | PhotoJim | Got the house paid off though. :) |
| 21:17.34 | PhotoJim | Nope, I'm no hippy. |
| 21:17.35 | harm | i bet your real name is sunshine |
| 21:17.44 | PhotoJim | I think you have to have been older than 3 when the '60s ended. |
| 21:17.48 | PhotoJim | and in fact I was only two and a bit. |
| 21:17.53 | Keolah | lol |
| 21:18.26 | harm | guues my detector says YOUR A LAIR sunshine |
| 21:18.35 | PhotoJim | I did however play D&D when the first edition of Advanced D&D was out... |
| 21:18.37 | harm | so go back to that Volkswagen bus of yours and smoke some dope |
| 21:18.39 | Amarande | harm: do you play Alliance or Horde? |
| 21:18.48 | PhotoJim | sorry, I drive a Honda. :) |
| 21:18.50 | Amarande | Jim, did you hear about Gary Gygax, by the way? :( |
| 21:18.52 | harm | Amarande: would you sex me if i said alliance? |
| 21:19.10 | harm | PhotoJim: hondas arnt for hippies :X |
| 21:19.19 | PhotoJim | proof I'm not a hippy :) |
| 21:19.27 | harm | or more lies.. time wil tell |
| 21:19.30 | PhotoJim | It does have a sunroof and a 5-speed manual though if that helps. |
| 21:19.35 | Keolah | The only lie around here is the cake. |
| 21:19.48 | harm | ... which cake? |
| 21:19.52 | harm | i want some |
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| 21:20.06 | harm | IRC is ruining my life :( |
| 21:20.08 | PhotoJim | Amarande: I did indeed. Sad news. |
| 21:20.17 | Gourra | harm, did you have one in the first place? |
| 21:20.31 | harm | yes i lost at right after my virginity |
| 21:20.41 | harm | once i had sex i didnt bother being social |
| 21:21.07 | harm | so after age 13 i turned into a lifeless whore.. sucking for virtual Gold |
| 21:21.31 | Gourra | wait what |
| 21:21.33 | Gourra | sex at 13 |
| 21:21.36 | Gourra | that's retarded |
| 21:21.45 | harm | the dick went up.. and inserted |
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| 21:22.18 | Gourra | at 13? that's just..I don't know. stupid. |
| 21:22.33 | Gourra | no wonder you act like you do |
| 21:22.56 | harm | why? i dont conform to your narrow vision? which is warped by all kinds of religion? Lets face it.. mankinds sucks.. all we do is fuck and destroy. |
| 21:23.16 | harm | last time i did a population count it was waaay to much |
| 21:23.29 | Keolah | being "enlightened" is not an excuse for being an asshole ;p |
| 21:23.33 | harm | so either we let africa starve and sterilize china and india or we are fucked |
| 21:23.37 | Amarande | hmm |
| 21:23.43 | Amarande | is harm a user who's been blocked from the wiki? |
| 21:23.44 | Sylass | lol |
| 21:23.46 | Gourra | woah woah. |
| 21:23.50 | harm | i dont wiki rape |
| 21:24.01 | Amarande | ok, now i know for sure that you play alliance, harm |
| 21:24.07 | Gourra | lmao Amarande |
| 21:24.21 | harm | no i dont |
| 21:24.22 | Keolah | Probably the guy that keeps swooping down on a flying mount and stealing my veins, too. ;p |
| 21:24.35 | Amarande | Keolah, I know *that* feeling well :S |
| 21:24.38 | harm | horde lock |
| 21:24.46 | Gourra | that sounds though like extreme racism. like "cleaning up" the world population and letting the "pure" race exist. |
| 21:24.49 | kd3 | hm... so I ban half the channel for acting like idiots? |
| 21:25.04 | Keolah | nah, just harm. |
| 21:25.06 | harm | oh oh.. op |
| 21:25.14 | Amarande | kd3: "response to random statement and threat to ban opposing sides"? :) |
| 21:25.22 | kd3 | lmao |
| 21:25.35 | Keolah | Non-sequitur involving cheese. |
| 21:25.40 | harm | silence.. is a virtue |
| 21:25.41 | Corgan | kd3, do it |
| 21:25.48 | Sylass | nonsensical statement involving plankton? |
| 21:25.58 | kd3 | we'll see how it plays out when I get back in a few minutes |
| 21:26.03 | Amarande | oh man, now what have I done. :| |
| 21:26.20 | Sylass | you've started a riot. |
| 21:26.28 | harm | beter not involve a minor Amarande |
| 21:26.35 | Amarande | I guess we can always just push harm off of netherstorm, though |
| 21:26.52 | harm | if you guy do not enjoy my company dont hesitate to ask me to leave |
| 21:26.56 | harm | i might even say sorry |
| 21:27.06 | harm | if you just ask me to |
| 21:27.51 | Ose | ~seen Buraisu |
| 21:27.55 | infobot | i haven't seen 'buraisu', Ose |
| 21:28.30 | harm | ~seen infobot |
| 21:28.31 | infobot | infobot is currently on #cwxtesting #utos #maemo #fredlug #opensimpad.org #android #asterisk-bugs # #wowhead #infobot #lugot #mseide #wowwiki, last said: 'TimRiker meant: fixing it now to not msg if there was no edit. Cool!'. |
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| 21:28.53 | Liempt | I wauld like ta take a mament ta zaai dat aiau all zuxx azz. L.a.L.!!! |
| 21:28.55 | Gourra | harm, leave. please. |
| 21:28.59 | Liempt | zariauzlai. L.a.L.!!! |
| 21:29.05 | Liempt | Get a life! |
| 21:29.06 | Gourra | ...wait what? |
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| 21:29.16 | Amarande | Liempt, sorry, we only speak Orcish here, not Common |
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| 21:29.39 | Liempt | I da nat undarztand. L.a.L.!!! |
| 21:30.21 | Liempt | za anaiwaai, wha iz harm? lolwut?!?!?!? |
| 21:30.31 | Liempt | And whai did he have ta leave? lolwut?!?!?!? |
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| 21:32.14 | Liempt | Hai kharitwa, and welkame ta #wawwiki, whare we zpew nanzenze at newkamarz! |
| 21:33.55 | Keolah | I see such stunning displays of IQ in this channel today. |
| 21:34.06 | Liempt | ? lolwut?!?!?!? |
| 21:34.22 | Amarande | Keolah, which server and faction do you play on btw? :) |
| 21:34.32 | Keolah | I play Alliance on Shandris, and Horde on Exodar. |
| 21:34.50 | Liempt | I plaai an [Amarud] and I am a level 31. L.a.L.!!!141 a'k ninja. L.a.L.!!! |
| 21:35.02 | Amarande | Ahh. I do Horde Turalyon and occasionally Alliance Stormrage |
| 21:35.19 | Amarande | I'm starting to consider the idea of transferring off, though, if the grouping environment doesn't improve at 70 |
| 21:36.09 | Liempt | ane time I inztanked BAamut. L.a.L.!!! I pulled ta Gaairanfa'ge and faught him wid de dwarf Jezuz. L.a.L.!!! Jezuz wan. L.a.L.!!! |
| 21:36.58 | Keolah | Where _are_ the idiots coming from today? |
| 21:37.19 | Liempt | Whai da aiau kall me an idiat? lolwut?!?!?!? |
| 21:37.25 | Amarande | not sure :| |
| 21:37.37 | Liempt | What are aiau guaiz talking abaut? lolwut?!?!?!? |
| 21:37.39 | Amarande | I hope it's not because I failed to close Death's Door in that space invadersish quest :| |
| 21:37.44 | Keolah | lol |
| 21:37.50 | Liempt | LaL I LaVE zPAkE INVADarz!!!! |
| 21:38.14 | Keolah | "Lal" was Data's 'daughter' in Star Trek: The Next Generation. |
| 21:38.17 | Amarande | (seriously, how *do* you solo that thing anyway ... I could never seem to manage it, seems to me you have to be loaded with instant burst damage spells) |
| 21:38.26 | Adys | [22:25:15] <Amarande> kd3: "response to random statement and threat to ban opposing sides"? :) |
| 21:38.33 | Adys | ur doing it wrong anticapsman |
| 21:38.42 | Ose | adys foxlit gryphen kd3 tekkub vargedin |
| 21:38.49 | Gourra | uh-oh.. |
| 21:39.02 | Keolah | Amarande - I've no idea, I've only ever done it with two people. |
| 21:39.17 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Buraisu/Buraisu&action=history please make it stop |
| 21:39.21 | Liempt | I h4v3 4n ar3ktian. lal!~!~~! |
| 21:39.30 | Liempt | \/\/4it. lal!~!~~! |
| 21:39.30 | Gryphen | hmm |
| 21:39.37 | Liempt | \/\/hai 4r3 |}ar3 n|_|mmarz na\/\/? lolwut?!?!?!? |
| 21:39.52 | Liempt | |}iz m4k3z 4bza1|_|t31ai na z3nz3. lal!~!~~! |
| 21:39.55 | Amarande | you're in the same BG as one of the servers I was most considering a transfer to, though |
| 21:39.58 | Liempt | I m|_|zt t|_|n3 mai zkriptz. lal!~!~~! |
| 21:40.04 | Liempt | I'11 zi aia|_| \/\/a\/\/f4gz 14tar. lal!~!~~! |
| 21:40.11 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+b *!*@207.102.100.*] by Adys |
| 21:40.11 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Liempt!n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys] by Adys (Adys) |
| 21:40.16 | Keolah | Thank you. |
| 21:40.23 | Adys | *shrugs* |
| 21:40.30 | Keolah | It was starting to give me a headache. |
| 21:40.45 | Amarande | I've been most considering Area 52 or Medivh, since they seem to be the highest pop Normal type servers that have a Horde population slant |
| 21:40.48 | Ose | he KEEPS vandalising! |
| 21:40.56 | Ose | stop it! |
| 21:41.07 | foxlit | Did you warn him? |
| 21:41.08 | Adys | yea banned |
| 21:41.38 | Keolah | I try to avoid high pop servers, myself. |
| 21:41.54 | Amarande | well, I'm kinda in a bit of trouble as far as progressing after 70 goes |
| 21:42.04 | foxlit | kd3 > Adys :) |
| 21:42.05 | Keolah | But then, I don't do pvp or raids ;p |
| 21:42.11 | Ose | IP ban? |
| 21:42.19 | Amarande | work a lot of evenings, so guilds with a raid focus are hard to get into, and it seems like even most 5-man gets done in guild groups now |
| 21:42.44 | Amarande | my current guild is awesome and friendly, but rather low on active membership so I'm forced to PUG most of the time |
| 21:42.49 | Tekkub | <-- A52, ally tho |
| 21:42.53 | Adys | no fair :( |
| 21:43.13 | PhotoJim | I found a leet translator... |
| 21:43.16 | PhotoJim | $|-|4££ 1 (0|\/|p4®3 7|-|33 70 4 $µ|\/||\/|3®'$ Ð4¥? 7|-|0µ 4®7 |\/|0®3 £0\/3£¥ 4|\|Ð |\/|0®3 73|\/|p3®473. |
| 21:43.23 | Ose | lol, "dumbass" |
| 21:43.26 | PhotoJim | It's almost painful. |
| 21:43.26 | Amarande | And well ... on this character, I've managed to get an outland instance group exactly once. :S |
| 21:43.36 | Amarande | I know a perfect guild name! |
| 21:43.41 | Amarande | "Disgruntled DPS Trio" :) |
| 21:43.42 | Ose | adys is teh win |
| 21:43.44 | foxlit | Sigh. |
| 21:43.56 | foxlit | Adys is to policy as Microsoft is to standards |
| 21:43.56 | Tekkub | no, <Thirteen Inches> |
| 21:44.00 | Tekkub | it's taken too :) |
| 21:44.11 | PhotoJim | How about "I Can't Find a DM" :) |
| 21:44.11 | Amarande | heh, I wonder if Disgruntled DPS Trio is taken |
| 21:44.23 | Adys | FUX POLISSIZ |
| 21:44.32 | Adys | IM GOIN TO FUCKIN KILL WIKIPIDYA |
| 21:44.47 | Amarande | or maybe "Empty Tank"? "No Balm in Gilead"? |
| 21:44.49 | Adys | right foxlit? |
| 21:45.00 | Amarande | I think you can get the general impression what happens when I try to get a PUG. :) |
| 21:45.13 | PhotoJim | "Thelsamar Pizza"? |
| 21:45.28 | Keolah | heh |
| 21:45.33 | Amarande | I'm DPS. I go into the LFG/LFM and advertise. In about five or ten minutes I get two more DPS. |
| 21:45.33 | PhotoJim | I kind of like that one actually. |
| 21:45.38 | Keolah | hehe |
| 21:45.42 | PhotoJim | That'd be funny to see a character in that guild in Darnassus or Shattrath. |
| 21:45.47 | Amarande | We sit around about 30 minutes to an hour or two waiting for a tank and healer, which we don't get. :) |
| 21:46.14 | PhotoJim | Amarande: Maybe I'm lucky. I'm in a really good guild and there seem always to be people to help with stuff. |
| 21:46.45 | Keolah | I have a poor paladin who seems to wind up healing (poorly) or tanking (poorly) all the time despite being retribution specced ;P |
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| 21:47.15 | PhotoJim | Keolah: they let me die, but then the soulstone my wife's warlock gave me lets me come back :) |
| 21:47.16 | Amarande | Jim: like I said, friendliness and helpfulness is pretty strong in my guild, especially since we're established friends from another online community ... the problem is that we don't have enough people |
| 21:47.38 | Amarande | Keolah: Not surprised. My priest that I don't play often lately is Shadow and always gets stuck healing. |
| 21:47.47 | PhotoJim | Amarande: I'm not sure how many are in our guild, but we seem to have critical mass. |
| 21:48.05 | PhotoJim | Amarande: I got lucky. A really good friend founded it, so he recruited it into me, but it was already a successful guild when I came along. |
| 21:48.27 | Amarande | I've started to consider going healing spec on my priest, come to think of it. |
| 21:48.34 | Keolah | I leveled that pally all the way from level 6 to 70 while grouped with my bf's mage who constantly pulled aggro ;p |
| 21:48.59 | PhotoJim | it's no different from D&D that way though. the clerics/priests in D&D spend most of their time healing all the "tanks" (although we didn't call them that). only once in awhile do they really get to use their offensive prowess. |
| 21:49.00 | Amarande | Simply because shadow priests just aren't viable for the most part outside of soloing or a well-supported guild, apparently |
| 21:49.14 | Amarande | Keolah: he plays an aggro pulling mage and you haven't ditched him? Why? :S |
| 21:49.25 | Amarande | aggro pulling mages usually start to aggro ME after a while |
| 21:49.31 | Keolah | I managed to hold aggro well enough to keep him alive ;p |
| 21:49.44 | Amarande | especially since most of the time I've dealt with them, I've been priest, and been stuck trying to heal the whole damn mess |
| 21:50.26 | Keolah | mage pulls aggro, I pop judgment.. mage pulls aggro again, I cast righteous defense... mage pulls aggro _again_, I hit hammer of justice... by this point the thing either is really annoyed at me, or almost dead from whatever the mage has been doing to piss it off ;p |
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| 21:51.24 | Amarande | Keolah: it still sounds like time for "honey, if you don't stop pulling aggro, you're going to start aggroing me" though :) |
| 21:51.30 | Keolah | hehe |
| 21:52.08 | Keolah | Is it kind of sad when all my hunters' pets are better at tanking than my paladin? :p |
| 21:53.46 | PhotoJim | I've had that happen occasionally. I just cure the pet while we fight. :) |
| 21:54.15 | Amarande | I hate it when a pet is the tank |
| 21:54.19 | Keolah | The pair we're leveling up at the moment is his hunter and my rogue. |
| 21:54.32 | Amarande | I always end up letting the tank die then because I don't really watch the little pet health bars the way I watch players as a healer :| |
| 21:54.40 | Keolah | heh |
| 21:55.07 | Keolah | Playing a rogue is far simpler than playing that poor paladin. |
| 21:55.16 | Keolah | "mutilate, mutilate, eviscerate, repeat until dead" ;p |
| 21:55.19 | Adys | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3204/2321788223_58da44bda4_o.jpg |
| 21:55.21 | Amarande | I still can't believe one of my guildies ditched us and switched to alliance |
| 21:55.43 | Amarande | Alliance BAD! |
| 21:56.25 | PhotoJim | I play both. :) |
| 21:56.30 | PhotoJim | but my primary and my highest alt are Alliance. |
| 21:56.38 | PhotoJim | I do have fun playing my Horde character though. |
| 21:56.40 | Amarande | I only play Alliance when I must, in order to have contact with people I wouldn't otherwise |
| 21:57.46 | dev_n00b | Is there a list of items with resilience that one can get wihtout doig BGs or arena? |
| 21:58.15 | Amarande | hmm |
| 21:58.28 | Amarande | all I've seen is one staff from an outlands quest, and of course the gems you can get cut using the recipes from halaa |
| 21:58.31 | kd3 | come 2.4, if you're honored with the instance factions you can get blue pvp gear |
| 21:58.56 | kd3 | hh/thrallmar, cenarion expedition, sha'tar, lower city, keepers of time |
| 21:59.15 | dev_n00b | if things go well today, I'll have my s1 helm and s2 gloves |
| 21:59.30 | Amarande | hmm |
| 21:59.59 | Amarande | how well geared should one be before trying to start heroics? |
| 22:01.24 | Ose | g'nite all |
| 22:01.45 | Amarande | I'm going to assume that going into heroics immediately at 70 is going to be epic fail. :) |
| 22:02.00 | Amarande | even though I do happen to have keys for Hellfire and Coilfang already. |
| 22:03.11 | |Pixel| | done fixing starcraft2.eu |
| 22:03.40 | Adys | lol |
| 22:03.42 | |Pixel| | (have to wait for the DNS changes to propagate, obviously) |
| 22:03.50 | Adys | it works here |
| 22:03.54 | |Pixel| | yay |
| 22:04.19 | |Pixel| | anyway, thanks for the report, I-do-not-remember-who-you-are |
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| 22:18.42 | Amarande | hmm, I thought they fixed knockback so it doesn't throw you off of cliffs |
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| 22:20.38 | Nevins | Anyone there? |
| 22:21.46 | Adys | depends what for |
| 22:22.17 | Amarande | or does cliff protection only apply to falls that would take 100% or more of your hp in and of themselves? |
| 22:22.24 | Nevins | I need the links for patching my game from pre-bc to current. |
| 22:22.38 | Nevins | The wow downloader is WAY too slow. |
| 22:23.01 | Adys | us/eu? |
| 22:23.04 | Nevins | us |
| 22:23.26 | Nevins | Here are the files I already have. |
| 22:23.48 | Nevins | WoW-2.3.0-enUS-patch |
| 22:23.50 | Nevins | and |
| 22:24.07 | Nevins | WoW-2.0.0-enUS-Installer |
| 22:24.14 | Nevins | I've used the second one already. |
| 22:24.38 | Amarande | I just got dumped off this cliff by one of those demon dogs in Netherstorm, and I didn't think that could happen |
| 22:24.54 | Amarande | though I suppose the proper answer to this is "stop QQing at least it wasn't THE EDGE" lol |
| 22:25.05 | Amarande | 'specially since Netherstorm is full of edge. |
| 22:25.19 | Nevins | You should be able to do a reset corpse macro. |
| 22:26.01 | Nevins | I don't know it offhand but you can look it up google WOW macros. it's like /script RetriveCorpse(); or something like that. |
| 22:29.06 | foxlit | RepopMe(); |
| 22:29.27 | Amarande | Spawn20level72EliteAlliesHere(); |
| 22:31.14 | Nevins | my fav is .cast all test grow (macro this 100 times) then cast it as a gm and everyone will grow on the server. (gm command) |
| 22:31.37 | Nevins | .cast all removeauras will fix it. |
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| 22:34.28 | PanSola | Adys: what does "bb" mean? |
| 22:34.33 | pcj | bye bye |
| 22:34.33 | Adys | bubai |
| 22:35.03 | pcj | private server discussing |
| 22:35.48 | PanSola | ah, thank you |
| 22:37.21 | pcj | unless he's actually a gm |
| 22:37.37 | Adys | blizzard employees are not allowed here! |
| 22:37.59 | PanSola | lol |
| 22:38.02 | PanSola | thanks |
| 22:38.10 | Amarande | ok, this is the lamest quest EVER. |
| 22:38.17 | Amarande | it wouldn't be if for one thing, but it is. |
| 22:38.23 | pcj | search poop for cherries? |
| 22:38.26 | Adys | Kobold Camp Cleanup? |
| 22:38.29 | Amarande | [70] Surveying the Ruins |
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| 22:40.23 | Amarande | let's see |
| 22:40.44 | Amarande | you have to kill practically everything on the way. fail to do so and bad things like being thrown off a cliff into the midst of elite giants is you. |
| 22:40.54 | Amarande | this itself isn't so bad, but ... |
| 22:41.12 | Amarande | there's only one other quest I know of that can be done along with it, a kill quest that doesn't call for anywhere near all the kills you have to make. |
| 22:41.18 | Amarande | this itself isn't so bad either, but ... |
| 22:41.29 | Amarande | these mobs have the most ridiculously high empty corpse rate EVER. |
| 22:41.50 | Amarande | I'm glad I'm doing this one at 69, because if I was doing this at 70, I would be getting -nothing at all- from all those forced fights, other than a repair bill. :S |
| 22:42.19 | Amarande | well, and a couple greens, apparently they do still drop those every now and then, but other than that nada, not even vendor trash |
| 22:42.34 | Amarande | most mobs at least give you vendor trash for your time, nice valuable outland vendor trash |
| 22:44.09 | Amarande | now at 70, you wouldn't even be compensated with exp |
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| 22:49.44 | Gourra | pcj, did you see the changes to {{Paperdoll}}? |
| 22:50.32 | pcj | no |
| 22:51.09 | Gourra | check them out if you want, I added a bit more to it |
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| 22:56.47 | pcj | well, it would look better if they were side by side |
| 22:59.07 | Gourra | right-o I'll work on that |
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| 23:07.17 | Gargananana | yeah. |
| 23:08.32 | Amarande | hmm, apparently what you do at 70 when you aren't geared is ... PvP |
| 23:08.52 | Amarande | that *might* explain the preponderance of poorly equipped players in BGs, though |
| 23:08.55 | Keolah | heh |
| 23:21.48 | myke54142 | pretty much |
| 23:22.03 | myke54142 | can't get into a guild unless you're geared, can't get geared unless you're in a guild to run the endgame instances |
| 23:22.07 | myke54142 | so what choice is there? |
| 23:22.37 | sacarasc | play on a better realm where people will help you gear up |
| 23:23.00 | myke54142 | and which one is that before i spend $25 to find out? |
| 23:24.02 | sacarasc | Darkmoon Faire EU is pretty good for it... in the last month i've got 3 healers and an arms warrior mostly Kara ready |
| 23:24.54 | myke54142 | i'm in the us, wonder how an EU server would affect my pings |
| 23:28.05 | foxlit | Kaso: ping |
| 23:28.37 | Kaso | sup |
| 23:28.55 | foxlit | Want implementation advice, really :) |
| 23:29.20 | Kaso | go on |
| 23:30.05 | foxlit | I currently keep he bot somewhat responsive by splitting up large tasks into bite-size pieces |
| 23:30.15 | foxlit | s/he/the/ |
| 23:31.11 | foxlit | Which ends up with a fairly common chunk of non-shared code in each module to maintain a queue of things to do, and then registering for the tick event to run an item from the front of the queue every once in a while |
| 23:32.31 | foxlit | repeating the same code is annoying, and since data requests are synchronous, it still ends up in a nasty situation |
| 23:33.23 | foxlit | I'd like to change most of that by introducing some sort of central task scheduling |
| 23:34.29 | Kaso | So each module can throw its task/chunk to the centeral registry and let it deal with the execution overhead instead of each module independently doing so? |
| 23:34.51 | foxlit | Yes, that'd render it moderately predictable |
| 23:35.28 | foxlit | It'd also be nice to be able to mark some tasks as prerequisites to others |
| 23:35.55 | foxlit | So your typical module would register its main task to scan the wiki for stuff to do with a longish cooldown |
| 23:36.16 | foxlit | Which would then spawn smaller tasks to process individual pages, which would then spawn tasks to request data from the armory |
| 23:36.42 | Gargananana | yeah, totally. |
| 23:37.18 | foxlit | Could probably make HTTP asynchronous at that point, which would make things interesting |
| 23:37.29 | Kaso | How would you go about that? |
| 23:38.02 | Kaso | re-writing the luasockets backend? |
| 23:38.15 | foxlit | Possibly its http wrapper |
| 23:38.56 | Kaso | Seems like an aweful lot of work >.< |
| 23:39.53 | foxlit | What bugs me is that if the core manages the task scheduling, it'd eventually lead to it depending on luasocket |
| 23:40.02 | foxlit | (because socket.select() is too awesome) |
| 23:40.47 | foxlit | Handling module reloads is also problematic :( |
| 23:41.07 | Kaso | whats wrong with the core relying on luasocket? |
| 23:41.30 | foxlit | It's not tied to anything at the moment, which makes it pwetty! |
| 23:42.29 | foxlit | And it's basically unreadable |
| 23:42.53 | Kaso | heh, well if you had centerally managed task schedualling, you'd be moving sockets to the core, but clearing it from all the extremities, which seems like a good move |
| 23:43.14 | foxlit | I could actually move the select to a module |
| 23:44.19 | Kaso | (wtf my ipod just turned itself on) |
| 23:44.42 | Adys | OMG NO |
| 23:44.44 | Adys | NOO |
| 23:44.45 | Adys | http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/10/mac-se-gutted-converted-into-toilet-paper-dispenser/ |
| 23:44.47 | Kaso | that just seems like moving for the sake of moving |
| 23:44.58 | Adys | INSULTING ARGH |
| 23:45.01 | Adys | iWipe :( |
| 23:45.03 | Adys | wtf |
| 23:45.06 | Adys | disgust |
| 23:45.10 | Kaso | hah, thats cute |
| 23:45.20 | foxlit | It keeps the core reusable without sockets in the context |
| 23:45.23 | Adys | wtf he wanted to trash it |
| 23:45.25 | Adys | ugghhh |
| 23:45.30 | Adys | it a se :( |
| 23:46.41 | foxlit | Though perhaps there isn't a reason to do that, and doing that would cause things to be overly complicated |
| 23:47.24 | Amarande | wait a minute |
| 23:47.33 | Amarande | is ExperienceFu pulling my leg, or DO you actually still gain xp at 70? |
| 23:48.02 | Amarande | it quotes 814,700 xp as what will be needed for level 71, and says I got 2296 towards that |
| 23:48.10 | foxlit | Especially if I'm still using the core to kill modules completely when they're stopped |
| 23:48.22 | Kaso | you get "overflow" from when you levled to 70 |
| 23:48.28 | Kaso | but you cant go further |
| 23:49.01 | foxlit | 1. Stack +%XP effects. |
| 23:49.03 | foxlit | 2. Kill Illidan |
| 23:49.06 | foxlit | 3. ??? |
| 23:49.10 | foxlit | 4. LEVEL 71! |
| 23:49.15 | Kaso | heh |
| 23:49.28 | kd3 | lol. we got something like 4XP for killing bosses in naxx while levelling to 70 |
| 23:49.52 | foxlit | *40*raid? |
| 23:49.54 | Kaso | im sure you could find a mob with more xp than illidan, the whole raid thing sucks |
| 23:50.01 | kd3 | ya |
| 23:50.36 | foxlit | 3 is le quest, you noob :) |
| 23:50.47 | Kaso | and are there that many +%xp effects? |
| 23:51.05 | foxlit | no, and I'm relatively sure you can't stack them either |
| 23:51.21 | foxlit | When has a 1. Stuff 2. ??? 3. Result plan ever worked? |
| 23:51.39 | Kaso | ha ha, very true |
| 23:52.00 | Adys | http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2104838.0.0.php |
| 23:52.13 | Adys | blizz must be happy, im reading wow has 50 million subscribers here! |
| 23:52.25 | kd3 | har |
| 23:53.00 | Adys | Im also reading 40man raids still exist, hum |
| 23:53.02 | Fisker- | i am sick kd3 :( |
| 23:53.08 | Adys | we dont give a damn |
| 23:53.25 | kd3 | chicken noodle soup + sprite + sleep. go now |
| 23:53.27 | Fisker- | i don't give a damn Adys |
| 23:53.33 | Fisker- | not "we" |
| 23:55.23 | Amarande | hmm |
| 23:55.30 | Amarande | are any of the 73 elites actually killable? |
| 23:55.36 | Amarande | I've only ever seen ones that never go hostile |
| 23:55.53 | Amarande | though a 73 elite probably won't give more than Illidan |
| 23:55.59 | Amarande | since Illidan nominally IS a 73 elite |
| 23:56.31 | Adys | id prepare a long talk on game mechanics |
| 23:56.33 | Adys | but cba. |
| 23:56.50 | Amarande | what I've heard is that apparently they did figure out that ?? bosses actually have nominal levels |
| 23:56.56 | Amarande | though said levels rarely actually enter into anything relevant |
| 23:57.07 | Adys | gah Im gonna have to anyway huh |
| 23:57.11 | Amarande | think it happened as a result ... forget if it was theorycrafted or actually tested |
| 23:57.20 | Amarande | of someone asking "what happens if we kite a ?? boss to a friendly ?? boss?" |
| 23:57.28 | Adys | all bosses are counted by two different levels |
| 23:57.33 | Adys | clvl +3 |
| 23:57.39 | Adys | and their own level |
| 23:57.46 | Amarande | yeah, own-level is what I was referring to |
| 23:57.59 | Amarande | I'm pretty sure they've found that own-level is 63 for classic bosses and 73 for BC |
| 23:58.06 | Adys | most of them are lvl 63 or 73. the armory actually shows the real levels of those |
| 23:58.22 | Adys | their own level is taken in account for their own hits |
| 23:58.32 | Adys | and the other level is taken in account when they are being hit |
| 23:58.57 | Adys | the other level is equal or superior to their own level |
| 23:59.02 | Adys | otherwise it is ignored |
| 23:59.17 | Adys | (read, a lvl 30 cant go against patchwerk and have the resists of a lvl 33) |
| 23:59.51 | foxlit | What's that? |
